I was playing a ranked match and my teammates kept doing that. I told them we need to play together and they got pissed and took it as an attack on them. Also, as a lash player, the amount of times i run into a fight to save a teammate and make a 1v2 a 2v2 and they just whip around and run.. not saying ive never accidentally fed but man the betrayal i feel in the scenarios where im doing the right thing and my team leaves me to die
@@rylandercoleman2740 trying to main dynamo has been pain and misery also sad fucking shit to try to get big alt or get bitched at for not alting when i hit a lane and they go immediately back to spawn
@@rylandercoleman2740Bro.......Lash spammer here and this is relatable to a T. Seven and Haze players running solo under walker after getting farmed and feeding all that beautiful bounty over to the enemy. When I'm close and don't help(feed) I get flamed. When I help, I double the feeding. Why do dmg carry players think they're invincible when they haven't power spiked? I'm actually losing a lot of my games because at least one enemy carry groups for walkers while mine are dying in the double digits on other side of the map.
"I THOUGHT YOU WERE BEHIND ME" "I WAS ON MY OWN" "I DIDN'T THINK I WAS ALONE" *DIDN'T CHECK SURROUNDINGS* *DIDN'T CHECK SURROUNDINGS* *DIDN'T CHECK SURROUNDINGS*
I mean by 9:30 seconds you’re basically out of lane the entire time so you’re seven is 1v2ing and is behind over 1k souls and box maxing hasn’t really given you too much of an advantage. I think post 10 minutes this is 100% worth so 1 person can soak all the souls in a lane. But pre 10 minutes you just end up missing out on a lot of value if the enemy freezes on you and doesn’t insta shove back
For anyone wondering, he got approximately this stats (not counting slot machines): Souls: 2750 Weapon Damage: 14% Fire rate: 5% Max Hp: 150 spirit: 7 Ammo: 14% Cooldown: 4.25%
Souls are duplicated in lane until 8 minutes (end of laning phase) so going out of your way to farm every box is inefficient unless it's near your 2 min and 5 min jungle and lane guardian.
Farming some is for sure efficient, since if you instant clear the wave there will be down time. Also you get permanent stats from teh vase. So it is techincally better scalling even if you jus t go even in souls
I feel like this only really works if the other team is neglecting boxes, which may be true right now. But a good team/player is going to be smashing them within their farming routine.
i assume viscous and wardens guns do so much damage because they're "harder" to hit with but i dont think valve get how little that matters at 15m range
It's the best he's going to get for now and better than nothing. He can use the info to help him determine how worthwhile it is still. I'm pretty sure it's a dead on guess anyway I was paying close attention.
ive been box maxxing since before they were buffed, its always been insanely good at all points of the match. I'd always get confused when my teammates would just walk past shit and not break it, never made sense but more for me i thought, now its a meta?? gtfo damnit
@@ArkbladeIX If you can make it work. Letting your teammate risk the 1v2 and eliminating any chance of dominating the lane and setting your opponent back doesnt seem worth the small advantage you might get, to me at least
You're getting 1-2 Tier I items worth of bonus stats on top of the souls, and those bonuses scale up as the match goes on. Definitly worth grabbing as you move around the map. Not worth leaving lane for, though, before the 10m mark imo.
I get the sentiment but that shit's completely random and an intentional part of the game, not broken or even close to OP. Abrams was able to keep up in souls so I think you're over-promoting boxes a bit. If the boxes mostly give you souls, jungle creeps are worth about the same and lane troopers are king. That said, definitely box max as long as your not missing out on trooper souls. Boxes are still the lowest priority thing you should be spending time on though. You'll lose games chasing boxes too much and your lanes get pushed in. I've seen what you're capable of Vegas. I don't believe for a second your lane was too powerful for you to take on until you farmed up. The game wouldn't be as balanced if that was really the case and you'd see those characters with that build dominate and I haven't seen any signs of that. Take fucking decay if they stack heals... You have access to cheaper options earlier in the game rather than risking missing troopers and allowing your enemies to freely farm souls and even get guardian damage in while you're gone. Spamming decay on cooldown and getting more soul denial in there would do more for you IMO. You're not Haze, you're Viscous the lane bully! You only got +200 souls on Abrams until you started killing his team he was able to keep up with you for 60% of the game.
The hidden power of boxes are the buffs, you think ok we are 20k I can fight this guy but in reality dude just got 40% fire rate, 30% ammo, 400 max Hp and 40 spirit from boxes, that translates into at least 4 1.25k items, so he is actually 25k power, just not showing
@dylancrosby2451 I'm pretty damn close to his mmr and I barely play the game. I also play more heroes than Vegas does. Lastly, I play overwatch which is a more intense faster paced game. I'm fully aware of the stat boosts, again they're completely random and unreliable. You're getting mostly souls, not stats. You're just a hater that knows even less about the game than either of us.
@@kevinazeltine9674 overwatch is way less intense, I'm an overwatch player too and that game is very easy in comparison because there are significantly less skill based mechanics or game elements to worry about. Youre not the same mmr as him, dont kid yourself buddy, I doubt you can even prove it either. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about because he gained plenty of stats from hitting boxes.
Hard to argue with these results. I watched what he called a mediocre Amazon Worker game and it was easy value that paid for the 400 "lost". It takes only 5 boxes w souls to get that back and after 8mins, you're not splitting.
Theres 3 viable Viscous builds, 2 of them help with jungling and are just as competitive as the third and you chose to go jungle non-stop with the 3rd build...
box-maxxing? nah i prefer int-maxxing, its when i go into a bunch of enemies by myself and then wonder why my team didnt help me!
WHERES THE TEAM
I was playing a ranked match and my teammates kept doing that. I told them we need to play together and they got pissed and took it as an attack on them. Also, as a lash player, the amount of times i run into a fight to save a teammate and make a 1v2 a 2v2 and they just whip around and run.. not saying ive never accidentally fed but man the betrayal i feel in the scenarios where im doing the right thing and my team leaves me to die
@@rylandercoleman2740 trying to main dynamo has been pain and misery also sad fucking shit to try to get big alt or get bitched at for not alting when i hit a lane and they go immediately back to spawn
@@rylandercoleman2740Bro.......Lash spammer here and this is relatable to a T.
Seven and Haze players running solo under walker after getting farmed and feeding all that beautiful bounty over to the enemy. When I'm close and don't help(feed) I get flamed. When I help, I double the feeding. Why do dmg carry players think they're invincible when they haven't power spiked? I'm actually losing a lot of my games because at least one enemy carry groups for walkers while mine are dying in the double digits on other side of the map.
"I THOUGHT YOU WERE BEHIND ME"
"I WAS ON MY OWN"
"I DIDN'T THINK I WAS ALONE"
*DIDN'T CHECK SURROUNDINGS*
*DIDN'T CHECK SURROUNDINGS*
*DIDN'T CHECK SURROUNDINGS*
I mean by 9:30 seconds you’re basically out of lane the entire time so you’re seven is 1v2ing and is behind over 1k souls and box maxing hasn’t really given you too much of an advantage. I think post 10 minutes this is 100% worth so 1 person can soak all the souls in a lane. But pre 10 minutes you just end up missing out on a lot of value if the enemy freezes on you and doesn’t insta shove back
Soul splitting start at 8 mins
The Jungle Changes and Duo lane changes make it so 1 of the duo should go out and farm/boxes
youre forgetting the value of the gold statue buffs
@@yungjaxa they have less value before 10min as well
@@zilliq-qz5uw hardly a difference and its more value at 25 min+ not 10
For anyone wondering, he got approximately this stats (not counting slot machines):
Souls: 2750
Weapon Damage: 14%
Fire rate: 5%
Max Hp: 150
spirit: 7
Ammo: 14%
Cooldown: 4.25%
the edit effort of cutting timing in between hits of soul slot machine 🖤appreciated
I like that too, though I'd also like to get a feel of the actual tempo of the game, when watching to learn
😊the way viscus runs is so joyful, just made my day better
I... The Bugs Life video game music LMAO
Holy shit i remember that game i had it on PS1
@@AWPjxrdvn It was a great game for real, and the OST nailed the bugs life feeling.
Legendary soundtrack
Souls are duplicated in lane until 8 minutes (end of laning phase) so going out of your way to farm every box is inefficient unless it's near your 2 min and 5 min jungle and lane guardian.
Farming some is for sure efficient, since if you instant clear the wave there will be down time. Also you get permanent stats from teh vase. So it is techincally better scalling even if you jus t go even in souls
Wish you could see exactly how much of each stat you got from the vases
You can, unless you mean like an end game total or running total. You see it on collect
@@rossstrickland1722 yeah that's what I meant
going further, I wanna see that stat in a graph like the other end of game stats !!
I feel like this only really works if the other team is neglecting boxes, which may be true right now. But a good team/player is going to be smashing them within their farming routine.
Hollow Knight music for a video where you compulsively break every object on the map is very fitting LMAO
“Thanks for nerfing goo ball, this is your punishment.” Lmao
i assume viscous and wardens guns do so much damage because they're "harder" to hit with but i dont think valve get how little that matters at 15m range
One when they're shooting 100 rounds per second
They have very low ammo and slow bullets
Lane with mate until 8 mins, ideally winning the lane, if not, then one person box farms while the other holds back lane
kind of insane you never try to cancel the mcginnis ult with ball stun lmao
impressive plays! what about viscous kit makes stacking attackspeed worthwhile?
His gun is too good right now.
he is the most overtuned character ever besides shiv right now. he can build nearly anything
His gun hurt
Great editing! Love the pacing
Good video, as in showing only the important moments of the match. You should make your mic a bit louder compared to game and music audio
jesus christ the fire rate late game with vampiric burst is insane. box maxxing is truly the goated playstyle
I think they should get rid of boxes tbh. Keep statues but have the buffs be specific for each spawn.
i'd like too see the overall numbers of buffs that boxes gave you
It was between ~10 and 16%.
@@kevinazeltine9674 He is not asking for your guess, he wants an overall number in game.
It's the best he's going to get for now and better than nothing. He can use the info to help him determine how worthwhile it is still. I'm pretty sure it's a dead on guess anyway I was paying close attention.
HK ost with deadlock is so good lol
Sliding down stairs into boxes is a thing keeps momentum 0:42
he shoots them bc if the far boxes have nothing in them then he's wasting time running over there
WOAH IS THAT GOOD KID PLAYING
Why no songs in description :/
are the buffs from boxes temporary or permanent upgrades?
Permanent, brother.
@@cihsaka tyty
@@Zanezy. thats why the op late game, like weapon damage, ammo and spirit damage are insane
brainrot in the title and immediately in the algorith viewmaxxing
your plays is incredible.
Phantom Troupe music? W
i'm max-maxxing i maxx every maxxable and i'm 0.0007% elo 1v10 pubstompingmaxxing
i agree tho and people don't realize how early boxes and statues spawn
Omg I love it so much when the video starts with mindless chatter
Not that the build will save my skills but I need this build nowww, anyone know what it’s called?
Nice try, Link.
I m not a fan of box farming, but i know its important.
I know you are not an AI, but you are typing like one.
@@crybxbyy I know you are not an AI, but you are typing like one.
@@crybxbyy I know you are not an AI, but you are typing like one.
@@crybxbyy I know you are not an AI, but you are typing like one.
@@crybxbyy I know you are not an AI, but you are typing like one.
At 8:50 how are you taking the sinners sacrifice so fast?
Editing magic... I'm so sorry for deceiving you😭 - editor
Lol all good, I thought there was a new hidden tech to use 😂
Was about to ask the same! :D
Why does vegas go into cube then leave it immediately? I dont play viscous whats the strat?
At 12:10 it's looking like he's removing the divine mark stacks from mirage (in red on the left of the screen)
It acts as a mini dash/slide if you cancel it immediately while running. Most of the time he's canceling it to remove slows/debuffs, though.
How do you destroy the arcades so quickly? Looks like some kind of animation cancel?
It's edited out in the video
Why doesnt he upgrade his 3 at the end?
how long stats from box miniute
Song names?
its soul over...
Good Kids? Good tastes :)
i hear hollow knight ost i press subscribe simple as
woah you're good
ive been box maxxing since before they were buffed, its always been insanely good at all points of the match. I'd always get confused when my teammates would just walk past shit and not break it, never made sense but more for me i thought, now its a meta?? gtfo damnit
@vegas Is that Asphalt urban GT music? 13:55
It is! Crazy that people notice the music a lot :D -Editor
how can i get his crosshair?
THANKS FOR NERFING GOO BALL, THIS IS YOUR PUNISHMENT. mic drop.
can u link ur croshair
man i hate viscous so much TT gaben please nerf this gun
Seems unnecessary. When laning phase was over you had same farm as the enemy and your lane partner was 1k behind
Same farm w/ better stats
@@ArkbladeIX If you can make it work. Letting your teammate risk the 1v2 and eliminating any chance of dominating the lane and setting your opponent back doesnt seem worth the small advantage you might get, to me at least
You're getting 1-2 Tier I items worth of bonus stats on top of the souls, and those bonuses scale up as the match goes on. Definitly worth grabbing as you move around the map. Not worth leaving lane for, though, before the 10m mark imo.
@@jorncena4022 Exactly.
disgusting mobility
I get the sentiment but that shit's completely random and an intentional part of the game, not broken or even close to OP. Abrams was able to keep up in souls so I think you're over-promoting boxes a bit. If the boxes mostly give you souls, jungle creeps are worth about the same and lane troopers are king. That said, definitely box max as long as your not missing out on trooper souls. Boxes are still the lowest priority thing you should be spending time on though. You'll lose games chasing boxes too much and your lanes get pushed in. I've seen what you're capable of Vegas. I don't believe for a second your lane was too powerful for you to take on until you farmed up. The game wouldn't be as balanced if that was really the case and you'd see those characters with that build dominate and I haven't seen any signs of that. Take fucking decay if they stack heals... You have access to cheaper options earlier in the game rather than risking missing troopers and allowing your enemies to freely farm souls and even get guardian damage in while you're gone. Spamming decay on cooldown and getting more soul denial in there would do more for you IMO. You're not Haze, you're Viscous the lane bully! You only got +200 souls on Abrams until you started killing his team he was able to keep up with you for 60% of the game.
The hidden power of boxes are the buffs, you think ok we are 20k I can fight this guy but in reality dude just got 40% fire rate, 30% ammo, 400 max Hp and 40 spirit from boxes, that translates into at least 4 1.25k items, so he is actually 25k power, just not showing
And you're in low mmr, while he's in high mmr. You clearly don't understand what is happening here because you only think he gained souls.
@dylancrosby2451 I'm pretty damn close to his mmr and I barely play the game. I also play more heroes than Vegas does. Lastly, I play overwatch which is a more intense faster paced game. I'm fully aware of the stat boosts, again they're completely random and unreliable. You're getting mostly souls, not stats. You're just a hater that knows even less about the game than either of us.
@@transpiras uhh no he got nowhere near that amount of stat boosts. I was paying attention.
@@kevinazeltine9674 overwatch is way less intense, I'm an overwatch player too and that game is very easy in comparison because there are significantly less skill based mechanics or game elements to worry about.
Youre not the same mmr as him, dont kid yourself buddy, I doubt you can even prove it either. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about because he gained plenty of stats from hitting boxes.
Meanwhile the 400 souls you lost from the next wave
yes he lost 400 souls but gained HP,fire rate, cooldown and ammo
he had teammate who cleared lanes, so net gain
400 souls? Did you not bother to count all the souls from the boxes?
@@bullatognya5480 not before 10min where souls are shared equally
Hard to argue with these results. I watched what he called a mediocre Amazon Worker game and it was easy value that paid for the 400 "lost". It takes only 5 boxes w souls to get that back and after 8mins, you're not splitting.
Theres 3 viable Viscous builds, 2 of them help with jungling and are just as competitive as the third and you chose to go jungle non-stop with the 3rd build...
is vegas scripting? how come he can use his 3 to boost himself so effortlesly?
When ? He's probably not scripting but using instant cast
Bugs life music?
Nice