you've met Brimscythe the Iron Storm, now we are pleased to introduce to you Umbrasyl the Hope Devourer, Raishan the Diseased Deceiver, Vorugal the Frigid Doom, and Thordak the Cinder King. The Chroma Conclave doesn't play!
Grog's attack on the dragon is neat moment in the campaign. Travis: I attack. 19! Matt: Misses. Travis:...19 MISSES!?!? Everyone else: *suddenly realizing that this is not a fight they can win*
Matt said between 75k-80k people died in Emon. In the campaign, they completely lost track of Gilmore immediately after the dragons attacked. They went to look for him the next day and found people looting the ruins of his shop for items to give to Thordak. They discussed following some of them to possibly get some of Gilmore's stuff back, but ultimately decided to search the rubble for Gilmore. They found him in the basement dying of injuries he'd gotten while saving Uriel's family. Matt said if they hadn't found him, he would have actually died.
since it's been a year now, was it the kid (bright green eyes) that went with the refugees? I feel like we never saw that kid again but there was something and in the end, Jenna turned out to be Raishan with the same eyes.
@@SelineSnape yep! The kid with green eyes was Raishon. She then took Keeper Yennon's place. In the campaign, Raison pretended to be a different council member, but that council member was still alive in the campaign, so I hope Gina is still in the show.
I really hope they change Mythcarver because in the stream it was extremely disappointing and because Scanlan wasn't even a swords bard he almost never used it
@@Justcause9 He has it in the trailers, but yeah they're going to have to change it a bit to make it work for the cartoon: bardic inspiration, advantage and disadvantages aren't things that will translate well visually. But those things came in clutch in both final fights of this season, hopefully they keep Scanlans key contributions to the parties victory.
The craziest part about this is that this is pretty accurate to how much stronger an Ancient Dragon is compared to an Adult Dragon. Also, there is no way they weren't inspired by Shin Godzilla for Thordak's fire breath, because that's literally what Shin Godzilla does.
Um not really. Ancient Dragons are still kinda frail. They are pretty good for a typical party of 4-5. But Matt had to balance against a party of 7 Level 11 heroes. He increased the HP pool from what D&D stats state. Not sure about the rest but Vorugal's HP was doubled
Vorugal, the Frigid Doom (The white one) Umbrasyl, the Hope Devourer (The black acid one) Raishan, the Diseased Deceiver (The Green one) They are extremly powerfull ancient Dragons... but the other one... Thordak, the Cinder King... the red one... he is a fuck mothering GIANT BEAST. It's sadly missing in this, but Thordak is DOUBLE the size of the other 3 and at one point, he picked up Umbrasyl and threw him into a building because he wasn't following Thordaks orders fast enough...
It was actually vorugal the white one because he was messing with vox machina, and he was told to leave thordaks territory. And when they did that's when Matt told the group he was roughly double the size. Before that the group was thinking it might be a gurillea style fight and travis said "yeah let's go fight THAT one" and the group finally capitulated into running the fuck away
@@rendalconstantineau1680 I think they took some inspiration from Catastrophic Dragons, which are Dragons in d&d that aligned with the Primordials of the elemental planes and were infused with huge amounts of elemental power until they were more elemental than flesh. They are living disasters (like tsunamis, firestorms, avalanches, earthquakes, ect) that lay dormant until they absorb enough of a shock of their given elemental affinity to wake up. Many seem to go a bit crazy from the chaotic elemental energies. There is a good lore video on RUclips for those interested. Thordak is pulling elemental power from the plane of fire via the crystal in his chest, causing his body to swell and causing some mental instability. So I think Matt conceived him as partway becoming a Catastrophe Dragon. Terrifying to think of how powerful he'd become if his plan was realized... 😱
@@Watcher40K9 yes, I was trying to be spoiler free when I only said "something more" hehe But yes, I know about his connection to the elemental plane of fire from the live game play series. :)
They did name all the dragons in this episode if you were paying attention Red - Thordak the Cinder King Green - Raishan "Delicious cattle, Raishan enjoys the taste of fear" White - Vorugal Black - Umbrasyl (Acid Rain Dragon) The Blue Dragon Brimscythe from the first season was the youngest and weakest of the Conclave, hence why a low level group of adventurers was able to take him out.
Buckle in, it going to be a interesting season. And yeah, the lance was a DND joke from last season but they needed to make sure that it wasn’t a plot hole (especially for a one time joke)
And probably a reference to the old Dragonlance setting. But since Gilmore immediately started talking about how few people have ever killed a dragon that there isn't even any written lore about it, I was thinking "how would anyone even know if that thing works as advertised?"
Also a good nod to the sword of dragon slaying that Percy had in stream…makes sense for D&D…not as much in a show where you know Percy as a gunslinger. Doesn’t make sense for him or really anyone but Grog to be able to pick up and wield a longsword.
@@sarabeth6897 I do hope they don't completely sideline Percy, several reviewers have said he's understandably pushed back after being the star of the Briarwood arc. But they've made the dragons here look pretty much bulletproof, even Brimscythe wasn't bothered 😅 I worry he might just be helping in all the non-dragon fights and be completely useless against the big lizards.
You’re asking the right questions. Great reaction, as always. You have a very genuine aspect to this. It doesn’t seem forced or exaggerated at all, and that’s the most important attribute for a reactor, in my opinion.
The grim Briarwood arc followed by the overwhelming brutal start of the Chroma Conclave arc. Absolutely incredible! Eagerly looking forward to your reactions on this ride!
i have a theory that the forth dragon is actually the kid that was staring at grog in human form, which would explain the reason there are only 3 in the end and also would explain her green eyes while in human form cause one of the green dragons was the one missing
Raishans full title is Raishan the Diseased Deceiver for a reason. If you want to know how correct your theory is. Your theory is correct. Tho it is actually a change from the campaign. She's disguised as a different person in the campaign it actually takes awhile for VM to realize as it's a body language not a physical attribute that would key them in... But they rolled very bad perception checks when in front of the person and so didn't notice they're weird body language... but the green eyes are a dead give away, in the show. It's, for sure, Raishan.
Honestly, you not having watched campaign 1 makes this all the fun for me to watch. I sometimes go into episodes and just know where we're going and am excited about that, but I also love seeing people experience it for the first time without any kind of knowledge about what's to come. It's going to be another wild ride!
Slowly making my way through your LOVM reactions and I'm loving it. I hadn't thought at all about the parallel/contrast of Scanlan being the first to say "we're doing this, right? we're killing that dragon" in 1.01 and here (2.01) him being the last one on board to kill the dragons. Nice!
@@KingsBard The child is not the matron of ravens. The gods can't physically be on this plane of existence. Vax is seeing the matron of ravens for a specific reason, though. And the reason is... foreshadowing. Lmao. He literally has NO connection to her before the sunken tomb situation... BUT the show has to foreshadow some shit...and so they are.
3:37 Little do we know, Uriel actually survived Raishan's poison attack, though his eyes were blinded by the gas. Ridden with shame that the nation he had failed was now ravaged by dragons, he fled Tal'dorei to Wildemount, and took up a clerics mantle, growing out his hair to disguise himself. Hushing anyone who tried to enquire about his past, he took it as his moniker. He would patrol the regions near Alfield, checking to keep the people safe, until years later, he happens upon a curious group in a gnoll infested mine...
This season will include a lot of scenes I still come back to and revisit in the original campaign, so I'm definitely excited to see what they're bringing to the table this time around! Good to see you enjoying yourself :)
Yessss I was wondering when we'd get to see your reactions! I'm really excited that we're gonna get the first three so soon after one another! But man, that dragon battle was BRUTAL! I've recently been going through Campaign 1 and that moment in the OG show was just... no one was smiling. It was really rough. They did a fantastic job of translating that desperation to television. And the dragons! They looked SO amazing and terrifying! I can't wait to see what you think of the next two eps!
An Ancient dragon is equivalent to a flying natural disaster combined with a rechargeable nuclear bomb. Brimscythe from season 1 was "only" a Young Adult dragon. Truly old dragons like Thordak are ultra-intelligent weapons of mass destruction. 4 ancient dragons is an apocalypse.
In third edition D&D there was a feat that dragons could take that intensified their breath weapon effects so that even magic defenses could only stop part of the damage, even if the target made its saving throw. Like going from blast furnace heat to metal cutting torch heat.
Hey buddy, it's been a while since I've commented on one of your episode. I'm so happy you are covering this show again. Love your shirt. I have the same one. Great reaction.
Possible spoiler about the council? I'm not sure how they will present it in the show, but in the game, the council fled to Whitestone eventually. The rest of the Sovereigns family, Lady Allura, Lady Kima, and Captain Jarret (the ones in the bubble) all made it to Whitestone one way or another.
Definitely a spoiler since they were all apparently crushed by rocks...but it would be silly to pointedly kill Uriel separately just to wipe them all out 6 seconds later. Also viewers of season 1 know of another group that survived a "rocks fall, you die" moment.
I'm gonna venture a guess and say that the "tough little tike" at 13:04 is actually Mathilda Bradburry the child version of Laudna (Marisha Rey's character) from the Bells Hells campaign.
Spoilers I think its hinted who the child is when there are only 3 dragons at the end of episode 1. I think they are having the child stand in for "Seeker Asume"
you've met Brimscythe the Iron Storm, now we are pleased to introduce to you Umbrasyl the Hope Devourer, Raishan the Diseased Deceiver, Vorugal the Frigid Doom, and Thordak the Cinder King. The Chroma Conclave doesn't play!
"Who's that? Is that one of the dragons disguising themselves?"
Shhh....
It's a tool that will hurt us later
It's a sign we all need to invest in Kleenex.
so much foreshadowed painnnn lol
RIP Reginald, he was a Libertine and a Cad, and we liked it.
a true enjoyer of gnome culture
This is so sad. Alexa, play “Pull My Beads Of Love”
@@LydiaTereK But in a minor key
Grog's attack on the dragon is neat moment in the campaign.
Travis: I attack. 19!
Matt: Misses.
Travis:...19 MISSES!?!?
Everyone else: *suddenly realizing that this is not a fight they can win*
*Matt: “19…” looks at ancient dragon stats “...misses”
2nd Attack was a 22, which barely hit.
Sam was so confident until the 19, and the smiles faded.
@@TheDonmayo “It’s got an AC of 22….we gotta go..”
@@wiredjerk good times xd. Great how they implemented it into the animation.
Matt said between 75k-80k people died in Emon.
In the campaign, they completely lost track of Gilmore immediately after the dragons attacked. They went to look for him the next day and found people looting the ruins of his shop for items to give to Thordak. They discussed following some of them to possibly get some of Gilmore's stuff back, but ultimately decided to search the rubble for Gilmore. They found him in the basement dying of injuries he'd gotten while saving Uriel's family. Matt said if they hadn't found him, he would have actually died.
Totally didn't notice there were only three dragons. Also, to the question about the figure Vax saw, all I'll says is "Foreshadowing."
What I think is really fuckin cute is the little kids that changed Scanlans mind are the end are Sam Riegels(Scanlans voice actor) kids.
"Wasn't there a fourth, where's the other one?" Asking the important questions!!
Yesssss, so many people missing that
since it's been a year now, was it the kid (bright green eyes) that went with the refugees? I feel like we never saw that kid again but there was something and in the end, Jenna turned out to be Raishan with the same eyes.
@@SelineSnape yep! The kid with green eyes was Raishon. She then took Keeper Yennon's place. In the campaign, Raison pretended to be a different council member, but that council member was still alive in the campaign, so I hope Gina is still in the show.
I love that they are changing enough from the stream to still keep it interesting for Critters, yet still hitting all the major plot points.
I really hope they change Mythcarver because in the stream it was extremely disappointing and because Scanlan wasn't even a swords bard he almost never used it
@@Justcause9 He has it in the trailers, but yeah they're going to have to change it a bit to make it work for the cartoon: bardic inspiration, advantage and disadvantages aren't things that will translate well visually. But those things came in clutch in both final fights of this season, hopefully they keep Scanlans key contributions to the parties victory.
@@Justcause9without mythcarver Kevdak and Umbrasyl would have been much harder
The craziest part about this is that this is pretty accurate to how much stronger an Ancient Dragon is compared to an Adult Dragon. Also, there is no way they weren't inspired by Shin Godzilla for Thordak's fire breath, because that's literally what Shin Godzilla does.
I was thinking the exact same thing. I quite literally shouted out “What in Godzilla?!”
I mean...he is a Godzilla level threat.
Um not really. Ancient Dragons are still kinda frail. They are pretty good for a typical party of 4-5. But Matt had to balance against a party of 7 Level 11 heroes. He increased the HP pool from what D&D stats state. Not sure about the rest but Vorugal's HP was doubled
Gotta say, and it made his more sad but....liked that Ureil's last act was to smile when he saw his family was safe.
Vorugal, the Frigid Doom (The white one)
Umbrasyl, the Hope Devourer (The black acid one)
Raishan, the Diseased Deceiver (The Green one)
They are extremly powerfull ancient Dragons...
but the other one...
Thordak, the Cinder King... the red one... he is a fuck mothering GIANT BEAST. It's sadly missing in this, but Thordak is DOUBLE the size of the other 3 and at one point, he picked up Umbrasyl and threw him into a building because he wasn't following Thordaks orders fast enough...
I’m hoping we get some of those thordak craziness scenes later on
Thank you for the 411 on the lore! I am totally HOOKED!
It was actually vorugal the white one because he was messing with vox machina, and he was told to leave thordaks territory. And when they did that's when Matt told the group he was roughly double the size. Before that the group was thinking it might be a gurillea style fight and travis said "yeah let's go fight THAT one" and the group finally capitulated into running the fuck away
That ain’t ancient, that’s a fucking greatwyrm
Remember, Thordak is considered Colossal in size, while the rest are just Gigantic/Humongous
Yeah, Thordak isn't just an "Ancient Dragon", he has....something more to him.
@@rendalconstantineau1680 I think they took some inspiration from Catastrophic Dragons, which are Dragons in d&d that aligned with the Primordials of the elemental planes and were infused with huge amounts of elemental power until they were more elemental than flesh. They are living disasters (like tsunamis, firestorms, avalanches, earthquakes, ect) that lay dormant until they absorb enough of a shock of their given elemental affinity to wake up. Many seem to go a bit crazy from the chaotic elemental energies. There is a good lore video on RUclips for those interested.
Thordak is pulling elemental power from the plane of fire via the crystal in his chest, causing his body to swell and causing some mental instability. So I think Matt conceived him as partway becoming a Catastrophe Dragon.
Terrifying to think of how powerful he'd become if his plan was realized... 😱
@@Watcher40K9 yes, I was trying to be spoiler free when I only said "something more" hehe But yes, I know about his connection to the elemental plane of fire from the live game play series. :)
They did name all the dragons in this episode if you were paying attention
Red - Thordak the Cinder King
Green - Raishan "Delicious cattle, Raishan enjoys the taste of fear"
White - Vorugal
Black - Umbrasyl (Acid Rain Dragon)
The Blue Dragon Brimscythe from the first season was the youngest and weakest of the Conclave, hence why a low level group of adventurers was able to take him out.
Yeah, Brimscythe was the intern.
To all the fans who argued who was stronger, Smaug or Drogon... a new challenger approaches.
Dude, one blast from Thordak's "plasma breath" would turn either of them into a memory.
Yeah, those are the elementary school dragons.
This is prime time.
Buckle in, it going to be a interesting season. And yeah, the lance was a DND joke from last season but they needed to make sure that it wasn’t a plot hole (especially for a one time joke)
And probably a reference to the old Dragonlance setting.
But since Gilmore immediately started talking about how few people have ever killed a dragon that there isn't even any written lore about it, I was thinking "how would anyone even know if that thing works as advertised?"
@@elbruces oh yeah, most def a reference to the Dragonlance setting.
Also a good nod to the sword of dragon slaying that Percy had in stream…makes sense for D&D…not as much in a show where you know Percy as a gunslinger. Doesn’t make sense for him or really anyone but Grog to be able to pick up and wield a longsword.
@@sarabeth6897 Huh, I never thought of that before! That's awesome!
@@sarabeth6897 I do hope they don't completely sideline Percy, several reviewers have said he's understandably pushed back after being the star of the Briarwood arc. But they've made the dragons here look pretty much bulletproof, even Brimscythe wasn't bothered 😅 I worry he might just be helping in all the non-dragon fights and be completely useless against the big lizards.
You’re asking the right questions. Great reaction, as always. You have a very genuine aspect to this. It doesn’t seem forced or exaggerated at all, and that’s the most important attribute for a reactor, in my opinion.
The grim Briarwood arc followed by the overwhelming brutal start of the Chroma Conclave arc. Absolutely incredible! Eagerly looking forward to your reactions on this ride!
Oh gooooodness... just hit me.
It's Castle Ravenloft into Wrath of Ashardlon.
i have a theory that the forth dragon is actually the kid that was staring at grog in human form, which would explain the reason there are only 3 in the end and also would explain her green eyes while in human form cause one of the green dragons was the one missing
Raishans full title is Raishan the Diseased Deceiver for a reason. If you want to know how correct your theory is.
Your theory is correct. Tho it is actually a change from the campaign. She's disguised as a different person in the campaign it actually takes awhile for VM to realize as it's a body language not a physical attribute that would key them in... But they rolled very bad perception checks when in front of the person and so didn't notice they're weird body language... but the green eyes are a dead give away, in the show. It's, for sure, Raishan.
D&D dragons are probably my favourite kind of dragons and the show really delivered on that front.
4:50 to say it with the words from Jay over at pReviewed "You'll see."
Honestly, you not having watched campaign 1 makes this all the fun for me to watch. I sometimes go into episodes and just know where we're going and am excited about that, but I also love seeing people experience it for the first time without any kind of knowledge about what's to come. It's going to be another wild ride!
Slowly making my way through your LOVM reactions and I'm loving it. I hadn't thought at all about the parallel/contrast of Scanlan being the first to say "we're doing this, right? we're killing that dragon" in 1.01 and here (2.01) him being the last one on board to kill the dragons. Nice!
The creepy woman was someone else, someone who will be very important about 2-3 episodes later. U will see.
The tough little tyke as well...Have a feeling that's how this season ends.
@@brianewing5778 i think you are right, and its a small but interesting change from the campaign.
@@brianewing5778 I thought the kid was Raishan? are they supposed to be the matron?
@@KingsBard They just mean that is someone *else* who will be important in later episodes
@@KingsBard The child is not the matron of ravens. The gods can't physically be on this plane of existence. Vax is seeing the matron of ravens for a specific reason, though. And the reason is... foreshadowing. Lmao. He literally has NO connection to her before the sunken tomb situation... BUT the show has to foreshadow some shit...and so they are.
3:37 Little do we know, Uriel actually survived Raishan's poison attack, though his eyes were blinded by the gas. Ridden with shame that the nation he had failed was now ravaged by dragons, he fled Tal'dorei to Wildemount, and took up a clerics mantle, growing out his hair to disguise himself. Hushing anyone who tried to enquire about his past, he took it as his moniker. He would patrol the regions near Alfield, checking to keep the people safe, until years later, he happens upon a curious group in a gnoll infested mine...
Bahahahaha nice 🤣
This season will include a lot of scenes I still come back to and revisit in the original campaign, so I'm definitely excited to see what they're bringing to the table this time around! Good to see you enjoying yourself :)
Yessss I was wondering when we'd get to see your reactions! I'm really excited that we're gonna get the first three so soon after one another! But man, that dragon battle was BRUTAL! I've recently been going through Campaign 1 and that moment in the OG show was just... no one was smiling. It was really rough. They did a fantastic job of translating that desperation to television. And the dragons! They looked SO amazing and terrifying! I can't wait to see what you think of the next two eps!
An Ancient dragon is equivalent to a flying natural disaster combined with a rechargeable nuclear bomb. Brimscythe from season 1 was "only" a Young Adult dragon. Truly old dragons like Thordak are ultra-intelligent weapons of mass destruction. 4 ancient dragons is an apocalypse.
The Spooky Someone from the dragon attack will come into play, don’t worry
The Chroma Conclave is definitely my favourite arc from Campaign 1!
Liked and shared. Yours was the very first reaction to this that I wanted to watch, Omni. Thank you for doing what you do.
They actually made the 3d animation of the dragons look fucking great
In third edition D&D there was a feat that dragons could take that intensified their breath weapon effects so that even magic defenses could only stop part of the damage, even if the target made its saving throw.
Like going from blast furnace heat to metal cutting torch heat.
I heard that they did special 2D animation over the 3D animation on the dragons.
6:20 "19 misses."
6:56 "You take 66 points of poison damage."
spoilers below.
7:33 Yes, he did.
13:05 Green eyes.
Hey buddy, it's been a while since I've commented on one of your episode. I'm so happy you are covering this show again.
Love your shirt. I have the same one.
Great reaction.
"Is that the one that killed their family?"
Wow, you got there fast! Everyone be getting vengeance in this show.
Episode 1 was insane!!!!
The red dragon went full Godzilla with his breath weapon!
My favourite reaction so far. And that is an awesome Vox Machina shirt.
An awesome start to the season! I’m so excited!!
The creepy woman is no one special, pay no mind to her and carry on as usual /JK
I won't spoil but it's so cool the show is dropping hints to THAT.
This first episode was insane
im so excited for your reaction!!!
Great reaction,again. Ok, not going to lie, this was amazing but I got the chills @ 4:43. Awesome.
Possible spoiler about the council?
I'm not sure how they will present it in the show, but in the game, the council fled to Whitestone eventually. The rest of the Sovereigns family, Lady Allura, Lady Kima, and Captain Jarret (the ones in the bubble) all made it to Whitestone one way or another.
Definitely a spoiler since they were all apparently crushed by rocks...but it would be silly to pointedly kill Uriel separately just to wipe them all out 6 seconds later. Also viewers of season 1 know of another group that survived a "rocks fall, you die" moment.
Where is the other one indeed
Those Dragons are dicks, I've always suspected that was the case with all dragons
All chromatic dragons are dicks, but these ones are especially so.
It is the case with colour dragons. They pretty much are all dicks. Metallic dragons in D&D are the good ones.
This is some quality stuff. Big improvement from season one even!
First! Can’t wait to watch with you, especially ep 3.
For those who know:
It starts now... THE LARKIN WATCH. We shall be vigilant until Larkin comes
Still forever hilarious that Liam legit didn't know what everyone was talking about 😂
Welcome back!
Season 1: The Dungeons
Season 2: The Dragons
Season 3: The... And?
Sorry Grog. 19 does not hit!
🤣 that shit is the worst!
A common side effect of this show is watery eyes
I'm gonna venture a guess and say that the "tough little tike" at 13:04 is actually Mathilda Bradburry the child version of Laudna (Marisha Rey's character) from the Bells Hells campaign.
SPOILERS
Nope, Laudna was hanging around Whitestone during season 1.
@@Ozgarthefighter They were in whitestone... but you are right it's not her. It's someone else... hehe
No its Larkin
@@oldladywinchester oh no! You gave it away! 🤣
Spoilers
I think its hinted who the child is when there are only 3 dragons at the end of episode 1. I think they are having the child stand in for "Seeker Asume"
Ah yes someone who doesn’t know what’s coming lol
I think i know where this is going, and I don't like it