"The whole thing is tantamount to saying: I hate you and I hate what you love, and I am going to make you hate it too no matter what I have to do." Wow, that's such a good way of putting it.
For me, one the best heroes in Lord of the Rings was an individual with limited fighting skills, no magic, no political rank, and he lacked the ability to destroy the ring or stop Sauron. Yet for me, his character traits are what is often missing in more modern films, as being the strongest hero doesn't necessarily make you the best hero. Tolkien called Samwise Gamgee "the chief hero" of The Lord of the Rings, going so far as to refer to the modest Hobbit as "far superior to" himself.
they simply complemented each other in the team (the hobbits fighting with pans instead of swords in the beginning, because hobbits like eating for example, then throwing stones on orks at the siege of Isengard, the final battle where they even lead the army into battle at the beginning behind Aragorn, then Legolas the bow-man, Gimli with his axe, Gandalf with magic and sword, ...), there were no one leader leading everything all the time. Samwise was, as the name says, the wise (because of his heart, not his knowledge), caring for nature and his friends, carrying Frodo in the end... they all did their parts for the greater success. THAT'S what is missing in today's stories I think!
@@kamukameh Nice observation. As a kid I was into Mangas and was kinda interested in the storytelling side of mangas but all I could find in the book stores were books teaching how to draw them, not what makes their stories interesting. Until I found one that was about both. The first section was like a revelation to me: stop thinking about what makes your character great and start thinking about his flaws. Then tell a story in which he has to overcome said flaws in interesting ways. This way you will show greatness and not tell about it. And this is what makes a story ultimately enjoyable. If you think about it, most mangas follow this rule and find very interesting flaws for their protagonists like Ranma 1/2, a guy who becomes a girl if he comes in contact with water. The manga also goes out of his way to bring him in difficult situations because of his condition. And how he solves those difficult situations, makes the whole thing fun to watch. Well if you like that kind of manga/anime. Another great example imo is demon slayer. The main protagonist's biggest flaw and strength at the same time is empathy. In a normal scenario having empathy isn't bad but if you are being hunted down by literal demons having empathy for your enemy might not be the best thing to do. That's what makes it interesting. Seeing the main protagonist on his very special quest to learn and grow and do something different with his personal set of abilities. Demon slayer does that with multiple characters really well. Their flaws often result in sympathy for them. Not because of pity or some shit but because you just end up liking the things that make them different. Every time a new character got introduced I was like: gtfo with that punk, I want to see the ones I already know, they are helluva interesting! And 15 minutes later I'm like: wait, wait, wait don't go back to the old ones, I wanna see a bit more about the new one x) Long story short: Most good stories end up not being about one person overcoming some flaws but a group of people finding ways in which they can complement each other. It's like Sailor Moon isn't just Sailor Moon but the whole Sailor cast or Dragon Ball despite being all about Son Goku isn't just son goku fighting bad guys but is always an arc how son goku with the help of his friends overcomes impossible stuff. Even when great stories revolve around a single protagonist, those stories only ever work with even greater side characters. Like harry potter isn't just harry potter. He is always Hermione and Ron as well. And many things people like harry potter for were only possible because of the collaboration of other great characters besides him. That's why people like Snape so much. They know without a character like Snape, a character like Harry Potter would have less moments to shine. PS: you can break every rule in writing, if you know what you are doing, and still end up with something great. It's possible to write a great story about a single character but it's much harder than people think (one punch man is kinda an example).
Yeah most people forget that Tolkien subverted fantasy tropes as well and him making the Frodo and Samwise the chief heroes of the story in spite of them being ordinary is quite a feat
I sometimes watch older movies and am shocked to see how different the tone and world view is. The movies value family, integrity, and what is right above all else. Everything today feels nihilistic, self-centered, and lacking in morality. As if upholding good values is a chore and you should just give in to your vices and live like self-indulgent pigs without a care for what that does to the people around you or yourself.
I feel a lot of this generation is acting on those amoral values if they feel their offended feelings are more important than doing what's right for others.
I wonder if this is A Brave New World/Neuromancer way to move us past the concept of the Family and Morality toward absolute loyalty, not to the State, but the Corporation.
What you say is very true. It's what happens when society embraces the concept that ethics and morals are subjective fluff, capable of being subjugated to the individual's desires. There is nothing in most modern movies that people can relate to, or would ever want to actually aspire to. I had hopes for J. Phoenix in Napoleon, but when the trailer came out, and Josephine says to him, "You are nothing without me," I didn't bother. Pure drivel. I knew then it would be trash and, if the YT critics are any indication, it turns out that it in fact was.
In what clips I've seen of her character, she always has this REALLY creepy dead-eyed sociopath look. I hate how these people think THAT is what an admirable and strong female lead acts like.
If you want to see a movie that good, likable male characters, watch the movie "Godzilla Minus One". I was blown away by the movie. It actually shows masculine men working together to save the ones they love.
I am at the point where I would much rather re watch a classic movie from the 20th century with a cast largely now long dead than even give a modern movie the time of day.
I get your sentiment! But there's still tons of good movies made after 2000, with good morals and characters. Some I can think of off the top of my head are, Gladiator, Spiderverse, Puss and Boots the last Wish, Captain America (1through3), the Hunger Games, the first Narnia movie, (I think that was the 2000 lol), Treasure Planet, The Emperors New Groove etc. Theres definitely more, but I don't want to write a book :) I really hope the majority of films go back to actually telling good stories, and hiring good writers! I'm a woman, and I absolutely hate all the man hatred, and mean spirited women leads that are so prevalent in alot of modern movies. 😒 I feel like it's the new version of the annoying tropes that plagued woman characters in the 40s and 50s (and through the 60s as well, but to a lesser degree). It was annoying then, and it's annoying now.
"Before someone realises how much money they've lost"?? Stupidity was 20 woke flops ago. This is obviously social engineering *at any cost*. Thanks for your analysis, I haven't heard anyone else point out how much "good" is hated and torn down. In most superhero offerings it's been replaced with mere tribalism.
I still remember when the all female ghostbusters was announced and people thought that movie's perfomance would decide if hollywood would keep investing on woke schlop in the following years. Turns out that the movie being a financial failure wasn't enough for them to get the memo.
This goes all the way back to the rural purge of the early 1970’s when TV execs took top ten shows depicting positive family life set in the country off the air and replaced them with shows set in low income inner city neighborhoods often starring divorced women. The only thing strong enough to withstand the onslaught of our crooked Governments is a strong family. The attack of strong men is being waged while women are being told to forgo being a mother and join the work force and pay taxes to said crooked Governments. Profits are not important to Blackrock. They can lose billions and be fine. The point is social engineering and it’s working. People no longer think we should even reproduce. Thanks for your channel I love it !!
Another thing that the writers these days are forgetting is the entire point of "The Hero's Journey": That the protagonist must face challenges so that they can grow as a character. That's why most iconic characters start off as nobodies in their stories, with a lot of character flaws that, over the course of their journey, they address and overcome. The current trend is that the (usually female) protagonist, starts off as somebody who is already perfect and that everything she does or pursues is easily accomplished and her "struggles" are often contrived just to show how easily she could've solved them but chose not to. Modern stories write a lot of Mary Sues: characters that can do no wrong, and whose world must bend and twist in order to prove that their morality and beliefs are the only ones that matter and everything else is either a problem or an attack.
I am a short guy of 174-175 cms (5'9), once me and a girl of 182-183 cms (6'0) competed against each other in speed, strength and endurance, obviously she was bigger than I, I was 20 years old and she was 22, I easily defeated her in all sports, she asked why I defeated her easily even though she was taller and I said Genetics , modern movies and series try so hard to make the opposite and fail miserably
You are understating the gap by a mile. The US Women’s soccer team is one of the best women’s soccer teams in the world. They got humiliated by a group of *14 year old boys* in a soccer match. Venus Williams was the #1 women’s tennis player in the world. She got smoked 1-7 by the US’s 200-something ranked *COLLEGE* player in the men’s division. The gap in physical ability between men and women is cartoonishly huge.
It's ok to have strong female led movies. People love them. Michelle Yeoh and Cynthia Rothrock 80s martial arts movies, Aliens, Long Kiss Goodnight, Underworld, Resident Evil.... one thing in all these movies, however lethal the lead was she never lost her femininity. She was emotional and fragile though strong and cold when she had to be. Today these action female leads are more wooden than 80s Arnie. Also where are the male action movies lately??? It's like we only have John Wick
In the old days, we looked to people who actually did things, like the great painters and poets, the revolutionaries and organizers. Now we're told to look to those who just play at being those people. "We have been transformed from a mad body dancing on a hillside into a pair of staring eyes in the dark."... Jim Morrison
I'm so glad I grew up with cartoons that were designed to sell toys. He-man, Optimus Prime, Duke, Liono; some were like father figures, some were like older brothers, but you could always rely on them to be there when you needed them whether it was just the narrative or as an inspiration to be a good person.
Well said. This is why I tell people these are not just bad movies these are spiteful movies that were dead set on ruining the legacy of stories and characters we have watched for years and they would rather destroy those treasured memories than create anything new.
Your conclusion is outright Freudian. It is an interesting observation that with the loss of male role models comes a loss of morality. The modern strong female character goes for power above anything else. The modern villains are all sympathetic, traumatized, and have a good reason to be evil. The only thing all characters share is lust for power. I wonder if the proponents of female characters really intended this. What a strange anti-message this actually is…
Well, there are two general ways to set two different groups on the same level : elevating the lower ones and bringing down the upper ones. As you might suggest the first way is harder, but much more benefitial and insightful for both teams, while the second one is easier, lazier, more mean spirited and spiteful and teaches everyone involved all the wrong lessons.
This was the video that made me "like and subscribe." I LOVED how you broke it down so simply: "We can't 'be' them, so we have to Destroy them." "Return of the Jedi" (1983) was the first movie I ever saw as a kid. "The Last Jedi" (2017) was the last Star Wars movie I saw.
I can't stand the double standards regarding male and female characters. Approximately 10 years ago, feminists were decrying "toxic male traits", fast forward to today those same "toxic male traits" are given to female characters and we are supposed to fawn over them. I was sure that after seeing how Disney's Brave treated its male characters in favor of it's female characters, we would have concluded that we didn't need to downgrade either one in order to have great characters of both genders. I guess I was overly optimistic.
No oldschol male character has ever been as toxic as full-blown narcissistic sociopaths like Bo-Karen, Craptain Marvel or that brat from Wish. What these modern her-oes have are not toxic male traits, it´s NPD.
Here's hoping the days of the Jake Skywalkers end sooner rather than later, and we return to the days of the Luke Skywalkers. The days when we had REAL men and heroes. Men and heroes who did what was necessary, and are AWESOME rolemodels boys and young men can be inspired by!
Nerdword, I hope you see Godzilla Minus One. Its characters, both male and female, are heroic but flawed. They're quite endearing and very human. If you see it, I encourage you to do a video on it! I think you'll really enjoy it.
Nobody took Thor seriously starting in Endgame. They made him into a complete joke, and a pathetic loser. Ragnorak didn't allow him to finish his heroes journey, and also went against his character by not having him even attempt to reach out to Hela. Didn't even try to reform her like he did with Loki, despite all the things Loki had done. She was just too powerful. As powerful as the film needed her to be so Thor could never defeat her.
Thor's depression and alcoholism should have been played for drama and treated, in therapy, like in disability films, rather than depicted as "whiny and pathetic," a victim-blaming, sexist, and ableist view of addiction and mental illness, given all his losses in Ragnarok and Infinity War.
while I don't necessarily dislike the idea of a Furiosa movie, the "male protagonist passes the torch to a chick" gimmick has been done so often in recent years I doubt I will bother watching it. And the opposite virtually never happens, we will never see a Charlie's Angels sequel will a all male main cast.
It is not just male leads, female leads are losers also. Starbuck in Battlestar Galactica was gender swapped, given great depth, and was well acted. It was a great character played by a female. They seem either unable to write strong female characters like that today or are unwilling. Today is "put a chick in it, make her gay and lame".
No, it was a pointless swap for the sake of swapping before it was a common thing to do, and she is a f-ing Mary Sue. That plank of wood who played her attacked the fans who didn´t agree with the swap and now she also ruined Star Wars and promotes terr0rism, slav3ry and scheming to kill one´s own sister as cool things as long as her narcissistic character does it , so she´s on my boycott list forever.
Peeta Melark from the hunger games is a great example of a better role model. Sure, he can be weak at times in the arena. But he really has empathy for Katniss. I'm gonna talk about spoilers, but in the first book(i may talk about the books here, not the films) Katniss was starving. And after him and his mother argues in the rain because of the burnt bread. He tossed the turn bread on Katniss because she was hungry. Manipulate the Career tributes so she can be safe. And in the near the end when he was attacked by cato, he gives him a hint on where to shot the arrow on. And shot in Cato's hand. Surely he lost a leg from cato and the end of the first book. But in catching fire, near the ending. He was discussing about their future in the cornucopia. One thing to point out, is that he gave the locket containing her familly and his friend gale. Saying that no one needs him anyways after that. But Katniss, in the end tells him that she needs him and they kiss at Katniss having a motivation to keep Peeta safe. That moment kinda hits actually, mainly because peeta had been nice to Katniss the whole time. I haven't actually read the entirety of mockingjay and imma edit this . Also to the woke ideology of males, they're kinda weak and incomparable. Star Wars had weaker male role models than the hunger games(aside from gale). I think i wanna be like Peeta.
Years ago I was collaborating with a married couple on a furry science-fiction serial. He and I worked our butts off for two years to get a decent storyline going and it started gaining traction and a good-sized following for a young venture. For the most part she stayed in the background out of our way because she wasn't a very skilled writer or artist. Once it started making money, his wife abruptly stepped in and demanded she be an "equal partner" in all of it. However, she didn't take on any more responsibilities--merely started passing caustic judgment over what he and I did. Additionally, everything he wrote was retconned to add her as co-author. We'd built up a viable story structure, which she then began to tear down. She wanted a story built on adventure, international conflict and personal growth to focus instead on reliving her relationship with her long-dead father. Long story short, fans lost interest fast and the whole thing faded away in a whimper. This is a pattern I've noticed over the decades. Men spend generations building up a viable property based around universal themes of courage, integrity, family, and self-sacrifice for the greater good. Women take them over and make them all about her personal gripes in failed relationships--then shriek about sexism when they don't sell as well as the original property.
Cultures need courageous and honorable male characters, I think, because males mature later in age than women, and also because paradoxically, males do not bear children and are on average faster and stronger when we do come of age, males are simply more CONSEQUENTIAL. Healthy cultures accept the prioritization of male heroes. Short-lived and dying cultures do not.
I recall a yuber commented on this as well. The problem is with no good villain there can not be a good protagonist. No foil or opposite. Thus that is why modern male character have to be dumb to elevate the female main character. I will admit hollywood and western audience would NEVER let a male antagonist hit, outsmart, trick a female main character. Thus there is no threat or character arc. That is why when watch old Hong kong movies I get so surprised when there is female character gets hit. (kung fu action movies).
As much grief as the throwaway "evil version of the hero" villains of the early MCU got, they were so much better than the current crop of non-sympathetic villains they want us to think are deep and sympathetic.
First video from this channel I've watched and I'm subscribing. I'm leaving this message mostly to boost engagement cos she deserves it. But there is at least one line there that should be highlighted: MORALITY TAKES A BACK SEAT IN FAVOR OF POWER. You go, girl!
I will never forgive Disney for ruining Star Wars. First they made Han Solo a dead beat dad and killed him off. Then they turned Luke Skywalker into a cranky failure of a jedi and a total loser and killed him of too after humiliating him. Rey is literally an allpowerful Mary Sue version of Luke Skywalker but with a personality of a cardboard. I have boycotted Disney since the last Jedi and i won't stop until Disney goes bankrupt. Wokeness has also ruined the western superhero comics. No wonder why manga is destroying them in sales. No one wants to read a poor propaganda with one dimensional token characters.
I think the idea of heroism now adays and role models is tiktok influences and youtube creators to flock as a group, it's quite sad seeing the younger generation not being able to appreciate good films, producers seeming to give up making movies FOR people but only think about raking in as much cash from the next big thing
When you look at it all, you really come to realize that they're deliberately trying to change what the culture thinks of morality by changing the heroes our society looks up to. But so much of that effort is doomed to fail, because the heroes they're trying to replace them with are so utterly un-heroic that nobody is buying the propaganda (literally, nobody is buying the tickets and the movies and shows are flopping hard). I can't fathom how much money Disney would be rolling in now if the Last Jedi had been a good movie and followed up with an Episode 9 that was even better (and followed up with shows as good as the first two seasons of Mandalorian). What if the Buzz Lightyear movie had been remotely watchable? All the Lightyear merch you still see on shelves would STILL be selling and people would be _begging_ for sequels. Given the movie, WHY would any boy who like spaceships even WANT that ship from Lightyear? What if She-Hulk had been a well written character instead of a feminist screed? People would be cheering FOR a second season instead of cheering that season 2 got axed. What if Dr. Strange and Shang-chi or even the Eternals had been decent movies? People might actually LIKE America Chavez . . . Marvel has been trying to make Ms Marvel the face of the company in place of Spider Man for a DECADE now, trying to force her to be popular. And it has failed (multiple times) in the comics, in video games, as a TV series, and now as a movie. The only reason to like the character is because she's brown and Muslim. Nobody is going to like her just because she's brown and Muslim - you got to give us a REASON to root for her. Just imagine how much money Paramount could be making if they'd actually made GOOD Star Trek shows? Look around RUclips. There are people still building models of the Enterprise (refit) that was last seen in Star Trek 6 (that was THIRTY years ago, by the way). NOBODY cares about the Discovery. Look how flat the new Dr Who is falling. How much money are these companies (that are theoretically supposed to be about making money) spending on this effort to emasculate our culture's heroes?
I really never considered the idea that the studio execs and writers want to subvert the narrative to make people hate the heroes that were once loved and looked up to in order to push a new narrative and moral code or lack thereof. That was pretty insightful and it makes perfect sense.
Since a child Captain America was my favorite marvel character because he's the best a human could be. There was a bit of a power creep but his portrayal as a character was spot on. Heck the comic and movie Civil War plot lines were kicked off largely because of his rock steady morals and values. Values the new Captain Falcon definitely does not share. If the civil war plot happened with Falcon instead of Steve, it would've he would have signed and sold out everyone.
I see things a little differently, while understanding your point. I find characters who simply have good morality from the outset to be dull. The characters that are interesting to me are those with moral flaws that they must learn to overcome. This us why the story concept of Spider-Man has always fascinated me. Needless to say, the modern trend toward identity politics fails at this. A radical feminist revenge fantasy has no character arc, any more than a perfect male hero does. The evolution of character is what made Casablanca a masterpiece, but I really wonder how many modern writers have even seen it, much less analyzed it.
Honestly. I'm an amateur write, but I don't find it all the hard to write good male or female characters. Basically, it just seems like a skill issue on their part.
(Disclaimer - The next things I write will seem like I am lavishing false flattery to earn some weird favour or attention. I’m not) I’ve never even watched this channel before. I just clicked on this video cuz I liked the title& thought what the hell. Holy shit! Your monologue was great! Very profound. I can’t say more cuz I have to go to work but I will post again! This was so dead on in so many ways!
All hope is not lost. These projects have lost a LOT of money, and that money train isn't infinite. Eventually, the fact that few people are going to pay to be lectured to IN LIEU OF being entertained will reduce this to the niche it always should have occupied.
Well, it's the preaching of the anti-West "artist". There is / are plenty of good works of fiction being created. They aren't pushed by Hollywood, much less mainstream publishing. One will have to look elsewhere. But they are out there.
Even though I am a bit off topic, isn't it weird how Taylor Sheridan manages to write strong women and no one seem to hate his shows? His females are all borderline "the message" level strong, but because he does not belittle and hate the men, it comes through the screen in a totally different way. That and this video you made makes me strongly suspect the core problem is not feminism or inclusivity, its really all about misandry and nerdshaming.
Wow, someone actually thought deeper about this whole thing. More than division, we need introspection. It is all one thing! (politics, movies, music, immigration...).
Alan Scott / Green Lantern and Frank Castiglione / Punisher were destroyed in comics, reversing the fundamental things that made them themselves. These were careful, thorough jobs of befouling and destruction. This did not happen by accident or because anyone thought that this was the way to make money. Everybody already knew how to make money with the Punisher, and he was destroyed because he was too well accepted by the public to suit writers who hated them and him.
There is no virtue that is not founded in love. Matthew 22:37-40 ESV [37] And he said to him, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. [38] This is the great and first commandment. [39] And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. [40] On these two commandments depend all the Law and the Prophets.”
I'm making a series where the main protagonist got struck into another world but however he happened to became a pirate. When he start up the ship. It's goes flying off to space. It's have elements of series like Tri-Gun, Gurren Lagann & Gokaiger.
Does he really have to be isekai'd? Can't he just be a mechanic with dreams of grandeur and adventure? You should only isekai a character if you have no other way of adding them to the setting. It sounds like a cool idea btw :)
On the topic of Lord of the Rings and Aragorn, I love Theoden. He became corrupted and manipulated and he becomes fearful thus leading to their near extinction at Helm’s Deep. He has a lot of pain and anger alongside his fear, but in Return of the King he really comes around to becoming a hero king and leads the charge at Pelinnor Fields. The thing that bothers me is a trend I am seeing wherein male roles and titles/names are being turned into mantles instead of their identity. Spider powers? You’re THE Spiderman. Picking up Mjolnir? You’re THE Thor. Got the shield? you’re THE Captain America. No longer are our male heroes symbols and individuals, no, they just occupied a title and all the deeds they did is tied to the title anyone can pick up later. It’s disgusting.
These new installments are not canon to me. Just no. The way they go about both male and female characters is so foolish. It’s totally an insult to both men and women.
Moral and loyalty are despised by the 1%. Every form of "value" except consumption is fraud upon. This is clearly seen in the assault on christianity. Because compassion and a belief in something more important than "me", makes people cooperate and see their fellow man/woman. And that's "bad", because them people work with each other, instead of only existing for them self and their ego. Nice and intelligent program. Love from Copenhagen 🇸🇪🇩🇰🇵🇱
Well, I agree, but here's the problem. I'm at the point where when I find someone aware and consistent in raising awareness to the problem for a year or more, I'd like to see more than just rehashing and re-highlighting the issue. Maybe it's easier to do just that, but this content has an incredibly short life-span. Like, if I know one channel who's aware of this and see one video, I don't need 20 more. Something to keep in mind. Begin imagining topics about fixing this situation and presenting stories that do it right, otherwise this is just "Consume product, get angry at the next product, rinse and repeat".
Yet again an excellent video essay. I hope the more established YT cultural commentators are watching! Great stuff and here's to your continued success
To answer the end of your video: There is only one way to fix this. Create and tell better stories independently in a parallel economy. Take inspiration from Critical Drinker or YoungRippa59 (Eric July) and others like them. Go out there and tell stories.
There is enough entertainment to distract one for decades. Let them do any garbage they want, ignore it and watch decent stuff from 30 years ago. Simple.
Seriously this is the most obvious sign someone can’t write or tell a continuous story. Luke Skywalker is one the wort offense to modern cinema. These people really are lame.
As a gen X’er I’m amazed that younger people refer to the mediocre LOTR as something wonderful. But when I look at the utter garbage they’ve grown up with it’s clear that even what was once mediocre is now exceptional. I weep for the richness of life todays kids have been deprived of 😢
Don't forget that marvel take pride at calling themselve 《relatable》by erasing any barrier possible between characteres and us. This is why i alway preffered DC... not the best, ok, but working on 《being an inspirationnal model 》as a goal
One exception: Kate Bishop. She constantly shows in Hawkeye that she is not ready to be "Hawkeye". The very best Kate is nowhere near the worst version of Clint. He takes out the Track Suits with ease, she gets herself caught. The first time you see her, she fucks up and gets suspended from college. She needs Clint, looks up to him and never belittled him. She is the one and only proper successor.
The Anti-Male Heroic Deconstructionist Movement is over. Heroes are heroes not because they don’t have our human flaws, but because they do and do the right thing regardless of how they might suffer or even die. This movement does put power above doing what is right despite or even because of the suffering involved. We do what is right because it is right not because it is easy.
I feel like there's one more aspect to this. There's also the aspect that many of these women that have gone through and changed so many things, especially with the men. They are angry that many of the men they meet now do not have these qualities. And it makes them hate the idea that they do not have a partner like this. So they would rather destroy and dummy down these men to make them feel comfortable with the partners they are with currently then expecting the men they are around to rise to these levels.
As someone who absolutely loved reading the inheritance series as a child, I was completely blown away by just how awfully they adapted it. Like at that point even someone with 0 skills could have made a better film just from having read the books and respecting the story. What they made literally wasn't even the inheritance series. It was just some disgusting fantasy nightmare with similar names. I have not seen a story adapted that poorly since War World Z, and even then at least that movie was still half enjoyable on its own lmao
🧙♂️🪄💨 The sacred isn't merely a concept created by religion but more the intrinsic value found in all work. For creative literary work it is vital to have a good solid sacred that spurs the imagination within it so it can out last the life of it's writer.
The endless ESG money is already starting to dry up. Loans used to be basically free money printing not so long ago, so plenty of businesses could be run on credit without actually being profitable. But interst rates are once more a thing now in an attempt to deal with the inflation, so a lot of ideology stuff may go away since it simply can't stand on its own without endless infusions of money.
This is why Star Wars, Bond, LOTR, Star Trek (science fiction media in general) and now Superhero's have all been destroyed or at least the male hero's and replaced with selfish female counter-parts. It also explains why mainstream critics hated Top Gun Maverick or really any male hero thats not defined by a women. Characters like John Wick are acceptable because he's a hit man operating in a unrealistic world full of killers.
Fictional characters are not role models. Real people are role models. Maybe you are referring to actors? I would discourage any young person from looking up to actors or fictional characters as role models. Most actors have questionable morals and lifestyles. And really, they get rich by playing pretend. I taught my children to expect much more from someone they admire and wish to emulate.
Your analysis was provocative and insightful. Your last reason is particularly troubling. Obviously, mindless hero worship can lead to evil and unintended consequences. If one looks at the iconic perpetrations of evil, one simply does not find its supporters crying, "What we do, we do in the name of evil." Quite the contrary, great evil typically adopts a mask of goodness. That remains true in the modern world, for the Mary Sues crafted to humiliate male heroes are still painted as virtuous and good, though their victories emphasize their power over their goodness. The struggle between good and evil--inside the individual or within a society--itself resonates with the human experience. It's hard to tell a dramatic story without assuming the distinction. Even stories about a human being struggling to survive against the forces of nature suggest that a person's survival is a good thing, one that we should prefer over nature's victory over human life. But once we believe that good and evil are merely social constructs that we may change as easily as we change our clothes, then morality ceases to possess any objective moral warrant. Morality becomes what society says that it is--or, at least, what the elites who believe that they control society say that it is. The Nuremberg Race Laws in Nazi Germany, for example, were first announced by the Party and then enacted into law the very same day as the announcement, yet these racist laws enjoyed popular support among Germans. This social definition of morality ceases to be about justice and humane treatment decreed by a transcendent standard that has the moral authority to judge the works of humankind. Instead, it becomes a means of manipulation by which the elites tell the rest of society how to feel and think. In fact, Nazi ethical philosophy seriously argued that morality was that which benefited the Third Reich, an ethical view that Stalin and Mao applied to their own tyrannical governments. In that light, the latest, politically-correct fad becomes the illegitimate voice of a mere fading memory of moral authority, a voice that imposes its will by the force of social censure--or even worse. Those using this cultural memory seek merely to manipulate others into thinking and acting in a certain way. If one wants proof of that, note the sixtieth-anniversary episode of Dr Who, an episode in which The Doctor is criticized in a most cringe fashion for assuming an alien's pronouns. The very idea of "chosen pronouns" does not refer to pronouns one uses about oneself. If a man chooses "she/her," for example, as pronouns of sexual identity, that is simply a demand imposed as a duty upon others, the attempt to force them into recognizing and submitting to an arbitrary choice of personal identity. She will still say, for example, "This is my coffee," but others must say, "This is her coffee." How many genders are we up to now? The idea of choosing personal pronouns is innately coercive and manipulative. Ironically, its power to influence rests upon a mere memory of an authoritative distinction between good and evil--one that the manipulators, themselves, do not take seriously.
I’m not sure if the causes of these problems is as conspiratorial as the comments think it is. It might just be something simple: It’s absolutely true that our society has suffered from sexism. The recent demand for heroines is a valid response to the fact that in the past, women could only have three main jobs - housewife, prostitute, or secretary. Because supply meets demand, Hollywood now tries to make “strong female characters.” The problem is, California rich kids who go to California universities tend to be psychopaths who have no understanding of what a hero is. As a result, characters lately fail to achieve the good PR Hollywood wants. My point is, I don’t think there’s a secret cabal of gay people or Jews (actual conspiracies I’ve heard) trying to socially engineer the downfall of the USA. The executives who now fund these movies are the same old guys who groped their secretaries in the ‘90s and probably still do.
Its strange how they sort of swap things around,like the female characters act more male than the male characters who instead take on female traits. It's like having a male character but in the body of a woman and vice versa sort of,also making male characters dumb doesn't make female characters strong. I feel that great female characters can be made if they are allowed to be well feminine and embrace that natural side of them, instead of trying to be like a man.
I think the only movie that didnt get downgraded for politics, was both James Bond and John Wick. The first, at the beginning,seem like it would take that route of 'hurr,now this is a wahmen IP' but soon fix it, and Wick never stopped being a badass from begining to end. I think thats why Insomiac's Spiderman 2 relationship between MJ and Peter is so liked. MJ would literally go up to against Thanos just to help Peter,but its never to take his spotlight, she gets her own.
there are big problems with spiderman 2, it is also following the same agenda as everything else. it's actually doing harm, because its successful in spite of the woke because its spiderman property, and this is a bad thing because this is the result they want in ALL properties. They want the fans to buy things because of the beloved franchise title even if it is full of woke. which is what is happening with spiderman 2. What, you didn't notice Mary Jane looks like a trans man? lol
I personally don’t see it that way. Imo, it seems like it’s more accurate to say that they are trying to reflect the current culture. The social culture was different in the 80s, different from the 90s, different from the 2000s, and so on and so forth. Content creators are pandering to their audience who adopt different social constructs over time due to many sociological factors.
You're saying hating on men is a 2020's cultural value? To a point you are right abour changingntimes making for changing stories, but we can also hear the directors, writers and actors who are there as activists first, and good content creators second.
4 Annoying Main Male Stereotypical Characters That Entertainment Companies Should Seriously Stop Showing: 1. The Creepy Sexual Womanizer 2. The Hyperfeminine Flamboyant Whiner 3. The Lazy Drunkard 4. The Macho Gangster Thug 4 Amazing Male Characters That Entertainment Companies Should Definitely Show: 1. The Clever Scientist 2. The Heroic Warrior 3. The Protective Family Man 4. The Successful Entrepreneur
They aren't "afraid of male characters".
They hate them.
"The whole thing is tantamount to saying: I hate you and I hate what you love, and I am going to make you hate it too no matter what I have to do."
Wow, that's such a good way of putting it.
That's basically narcissism in a nutshell
It’s hopeful to see more and more women calling out this exact problem
Notice how on top of being incompetent and weaker than their female co-stars, those male characters scarcely act masculine
HOLLYWOOD STUDIOS TRASHING MALE CHARACTERS SERIOUSLY JUST STOP
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It's cannibalism.
For me, one the best heroes in Lord of the Rings was an individual with limited fighting skills, no magic, no political rank, and he lacked the ability to destroy the ring or stop Sauron. Yet for me, his character traits are what is often missing in more modern films, as being the strongest hero doesn't necessarily make you the best hero. Tolkien called Samwise Gamgee "the chief hero" of The Lord of the Rings, going so far as to refer to the modest Hobbit as "far superior to" himself.
they simply complemented each other in the team (the hobbits fighting with pans instead of swords in the beginning, because hobbits like eating for example, then throwing stones on orks at the siege of Isengard, the final battle where they even lead the army into battle at the beginning behind Aragorn, then Legolas the bow-man, Gimli with his axe, Gandalf with magic and sword, ...), there were no one leader leading everything all the time.
Samwise was, as the name says, the wise (because of his heart, not his knowledge), caring for nature and his friends, carrying Frodo in the end... they all did their parts for the greater success.
THAT'S what is missing in today's stories I think!
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Nice observation. As a kid I was into Mangas and was kinda interested in the storytelling side of mangas but all I could find in the book stores were books teaching how to draw them, not what makes their stories interesting. Until I found one that was about both. The first section was like a revelation to me: stop thinking about what makes your character great and start thinking about his flaws. Then tell a story in which he has to overcome said flaws in interesting ways. This way you will show greatness and not tell about it. And this is what makes a story ultimately enjoyable. If you think about it, most mangas follow this rule and find very interesting flaws for their protagonists like Ranma 1/2, a guy who becomes a girl if he comes in contact with water. The manga also goes out of his way to bring him in difficult situations because of his condition. And how he solves those difficult situations, makes the whole thing fun to watch. Well if you like that kind of manga/anime.
Another great example imo is demon slayer.
The main protagonist's biggest flaw and strength at the same time is empathy. In a normal scenario having empathy isn't bad but if you are being hunted down by literal demons having empathy for your enemy might not be the best thing to do. That's what makes it interesting. Seeing the main protagonist on his very special quest to learn and grow and do something different with his personal set of abilities.
Demon slayer does that with multiple characters really well. Their flaws often result in sympathy for them. Not because of pity or some shit but because you just end up liking the things that make them different. Every time a new character got introduced I was like: gtfo with that punk, I want to see the ones I already know, they are helluva interesting! And 15 minutes later I'm like: wait, wait, wait don't go back to the old ones, I wanna see a bit more about the new one x)
Long story short:
Most good stories end up not being about one person overcoming some flaws but a group of people finding ways in which they can complement each other.
It's like Sailor Moon isn't just Sailor Moon but the whole Sailor cast or Dragon Ball despite being all about Son Goku isn't just son goku fighting bad guys but is always an arc how son goku with the help of his friends overcomes impossible stuff.
Even when great stories revolve around a single protagonist, those stories only ever work with even greater side characters. Like harry potter isn't just harry potter. He is always Hermione and Ron as well. And many things people like harry potter for were only possible because of the collaboration of other great characters besides him. That's why people like Snape so much. They know without a character like Snape, a character like Harry Potter would have less moments to shine.
PS: you can break every rule in writing, if you know what you are doing, and still end up with something great. It's possible to write a great story about a single character but it's much harder than people think (one punch man is kinda an example).
Yeah most people forget that Tolkien subverted fantasy tropes as well and him making the Frodo and Samwise the chief heroes of the story in spite of them being ordinary is quite a feat
I sometimes watch older movies and am shocked to see how different the tone and world view is. The movies value family, integrity, and what is right above all else.
Everything today feels nihilistic, self-centered, and lacking in morality. As if upholding good values is a chore and you should just give in to your vices and live like self-indulgent pigs without a care for what that does to the people around you or yourself.
I feel a lot of this generation is acting on those amoral values if they feel their offended feelings are more important than doing what's right for others.
…what?
@@charlescaulkins8306Bro what world are you living in
That's how they view the world.
I wonder if this is A Brave New World/Neuromancer way to move us past the concept of the Family and Morality toward absolute loyalty, not to the State, but the Corporation.
Hard for misanthropes and narcissists to write likeable, heroic characters.
What you say is very true. It's what happens when society embraces the concept that ethics and morals are subjective fluff, capable of being subjugated to the individual's desires. There is nothing in most modern movies that people can relate to, or would ever want to actually aspire to. I had hopes for J. Phoenix in Napoleon, but when the trailer came out, and Josephine says to him, "You are nothing without me," I didn't bother. Pure drivel. I knew then it would be trash and, if the YT critics are any indication, it turns out that it in fact was.
In what clips I've seen of her character, she always has this REALLY creepy dead-eyed sociopath look. I hate how these people think THAT is what an admirable and strong female lead acts like.
Napoleon is a manlet. Ever heard of Napoleon complex?
@@user-bt6ns1sp1l lolz. Yes. But the Napoleon Complex was derived from a caricature of the man--not the historical figure.
@@sylviagilbert8536 How tall is him then?
@@user-bt6ns1sp1l He was of average height for his time. Not below average, but by late 18th century standards he was average--not short.
If you want to see a movie that good, likable male characters, watch the movie "Godzilla Minus One". I was blown away by the movie. It actually shows masculine men working together to save the ones they love.
We need stories like that. More of them
I am at the point where I would much rather re watch a classic movie from the 20th century with a cast largely now long dead than even give a modern movie the time of day.
I get your sentiment! But there's still tons of good movies made after 2000, with good morals and characters. Some I can think of off the top of my head are, Gladiator, Spiderverse, Puss and Boots the last Wish, Captain America (1through3), the Hunger Games, the first Narnia movie, (I think that was the 2000 lol), Treasure Planet, The Emperors New Groove etc. Theres definitely more, but I don't want to write a book :) I really hope the majority of films go back to actually telling good stories, and hiring good writers! I'm a woman, and I absolutely hate all the man hatred, and mean spirited women leads that are so prevalent in alot of modern movies. 😒 I feel like it's the new version of the annoying tropes that plagued woman characters in the 40s and 50s (and through the 60s as well, but to a lesser degree). It was annoying then, and it's annoying now.
"Before someone realises how much money they've lost"?? Stupidity was 20 woke flops ago. This is obviously social engineering *at any cost*.
Thanks for your analysis, I haven't heard anyone else point out how much "good" is hated and torn down. In most superhero offerings it's been replaced with mere tribalism.
I still remember when the all female ghostbusters was announced and people thought that movie's perfomance would decide if hollywood would keep investing on woke schlop in the following years. Turns out that the movie being a financial failure wasn't enough for them to get the memo.
Social engineering?? Bro what in the world 😭
This goes all the way back to the rural purge of the early 1970’s when TV execs took top ten shows depicting positive family life set in the country off the air and replaced them with shows set in low income inner city neighborhoods often starring divorced women. The only thing strong enough to withstand the onslaught of our crooked Governments is a strong family. The attack of strong men is being waged while women are being told to forgo being a mother and join the work force and pay taxes to said crooked Governments. Profits are not important to Blackrock. They can lose billions and be fine. The point is social engineering and it’s working. People no longer think we should even reproduce. Thanks for your channel I love it !!
@@littlemoth4956 Tell me how it's not. Hollywood has always had an agenda.
Another thing that the writers these days are forgetting is the entire point of "The Hero's Journey": That the protagonist must face challenges so that they can grow as a character. That's why most iconic characters start off as nobodies in their stories, with a lot of character flaws that, over the course of their journey, they address and overcome. The current trend is that the (usually female) protagonist, starts off as somebody who is already perfect and that everything she does or pursues is easily accomplished and her "struggles" are often contrived just to show how easily she could've solved them but chose not to.
Modern stories write a lot of Mary Sues: characters that can do no wrong, and whose world must bend and twist in order to prove that their morality and beliefs are the only ones that matter and everything else is either a problem or an attack.
I am a short guy of 174-175 cms (5'9), once me and a girl of 182-183 cms (6'0) competed against each other in speed, strength and endurance, obviously she was bigger than I, I was 20 years old and she was 22, I easily defeated her in all sports, she asked why I defeated her easily even though she was taller and I said Genetics , modern movies and series try so hard to make the opposite and fail miserably
You are understating the gap by a mile. The US Women’s soccer team is one of the best women’s soccer teams in the world. They got humiliated by a group of *14 year old boys* in a soccer match. Venus Williams was the #1 women’s tennis player in the world. She got smoked 1-7 by the US’s 200-something ranked *COLLEGE* player in the men’s division. The gap in physical ability between men and women is cartoonishly huge.
It's ok to have strong female led movies. People love them. Michelle Yeoh and Cynthia Rothrock 80s martial arts movies, Aliens, Long Kiss Goodnight, Underworld, Resident Evil.... one thing in all these movies, however lethal the lead was she never lost her femininity. She was emotional and fragile though strong and cold when she had to be. Today these action female leads are more wooden than 80s Arnie.
Also where are the male action movies lately??? It's like we only have John Wick
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In the old days, we looked to people who actually did things, like the great painters and poets, the revolutionaries and organizers. Now we're told to look to those who just play at being those people.
"We have been transformed from a mad body dancing on a hillside into a pair of staring eyes in the dark."... Jim Morrison
I'm so glad I grew up with cartoons that were designed to sell toys. He-man, Optimus Prime, Duke, Liono; some were like father figures, some were like older brothers, but you could always rely on them to be there when you needed them whether it was just the narrative or as an inspiration to be a good person.
Well said. This is why I tell people these are not just bad movies these are spiteful movies that were dead set on ruining the legacy of stories and characters we have watched for years and they would rather destroy those treasured memories than create anything new.
Your conclusion is outright Freudian. It is an interesting observation that with the loss of male role models comes a loss of morality. The modern strong female character goes for power above anything else. The modern villains are all sympathetic, traumatized, and have a good reason to be evil. The only thing all characters share is lust for power. I wonder if the proponents of female characters really intended this. What a strange anti-message this actually is…
Well, there are two general ways to set two different groups on the same level : elevating the lower ones and bringing down the upper ones.
As you might suggest the first way is harder, but much more benefitial and insightful for both teams, while the second one is easier, lazier, more mean spirited and spiteful and teaches everyone involved all the wrong lessons.
This was the video that made me "like and subscribe." I LOVED how you broke it down so simply: "We can't 'be' them, so we have to Destroy them."
"Return of the Jedi" (1983) was the first movie I ever saw as a kid. "The Last Jedi" (2017) was the last Star Wars movie I saw.
I can't stand the double standards regarding male and female characters. Approximately 10 years ago, feminists were decrying "toxic male traits", fast forward to today those same "toxic male traits" are given to female characters and we are supposed to fawn over them.
I was sure that after seeing how Disney's Brave treated its male characters in favor of it's female characters, we would have concluded that we didn't need to downgrade either one in order to have great characters of both genders. I guess I was overly optimistic.
No oldschol male character has ever been as toxic as full-blown narcissistic sociopaths like Bo-Karen, Craptain Marvel or that brat from Wish.
What these modern her-oes have are not toxic male traits, it´s NPD.
Here's hoping the days of the Jake Skywalkers end sooner rather than later, and we return to the days of the Luke Skywalkers. The days when we had REAL men and heroes. Men and heroes who did what was necessary, and are AWESOME rolemodels boys and young men can be inspired by!
Nerdword, I hope you see Godzilla Minus One. Its characters, both male and female, are heroic but flawed. They're quite endearing and very human. If you see it, I encourage you to do a video on it! I think you'll really enjoy it.
Nobody took Thor seriously starting in Endgame. They made him into a complete joke, and a pathetic loser. Ragnorak didn't allow him to finish his heroes journey, and also went against his character by not having him even attempt to reach out to Hela. Didn't even try to reform her like he did with Loki, despite all the things Loki had done. She was just too powerful. As powerful as the film needed her to be so Thor could never defeat her.
Thor's depression and alcoholism should have been played for drama and treated, in therapy, like in disability films, rather than depicted as "whiny and pathetic," a victim-blaming, sexist, and ableist view of addiction and mental illness, given all his losses in Ragnarok and Infinity War.
while I don't necessarily dislike the idea of a Furiosa movie, the "male protagonist passes the torch to a chick" gimmick has been done so often in recent years I doubt I will bother watching it. And the opposite virtually never happens, we will never see a Charlie's Angels sequel will a all male main cast.
"a Charlie's Angels sequel will a all male main cast."
We have The Expendables and The A-Team, we're good.
It is not just male leads, female leads are losers also. Starbuck in Battlestar Galactica was gender swapped, given great depth, and was well acted. It was a great character played by a female. They seem either unable to write strong female characters like that today or are unwilling. Today is "put a chick in it, make her gay and lame".
No, it was a pointless swap for the sake of swapping before it was a common thing to do, and she is a f-ing Mary Sue.
That plank of wood who played her attacked the fans who didn´t agree with the swap and now she also ruined Star Wars and promotes terr0rism, slav3ry and scheming to kill one´s own sister as cool things as long as her narcissistic character does it , so she´s on my boycott list forever.
The phrase " I hate you and i hate what you love, im going to make you hate it too."
*_"It is the mark of insanity to do the same thing over and over again and expect different results."_*
- Albert Einstein
Peeta Melark from the hunger games is a great example of a better role model. Sure, he can be weak at times in the arena. But he really has empathy for Katniss.
I'm gonna talk about spoilers, but in the first book(i may talk about the books here, not the films) Katniss was starving. And after him and his mother argues in the rain because of the burnt bread. He tossed the turn bread on Katniss because she was hungry. Manipulate the Career tributes so she can be safe. And in the near the end when he was attacked by cato, he gives him a hint on where to shot the arrow on. And shot in Cato's hand. Surely he lost a leg from cato and the end of the first book. But in catching fire, near the ending. He was discussing about their future in the cornucopia. One thing to point out, is that he gave the locket containing her familly and his friend gale. Saying that no one needs him anyways after that. But Katniss, in the end tells him that she needs him and they kiss at Katniss having a motivation to keep Peeta safe. That moment kinda hits actually, mainly because peeta had been nice to Katniss the whole time. I haven't actually read the entirety of mockingjay and imma edit this . Also to the woke ideology of males, they're kinda weak and incomparable. Star Wars had weaker male role models than the hunger games(aside from gale). I think i wanna be like Peeta.
Years ago I was collaborating with a married couple on a furry science-fiction serial. He and I worked our butts off for two years to get a decent storyline going and it started gaining traction and a good-sized following for a young venture. For the most part she stayed in the background out of our way because she wasn't a very skilled writer or artist. Once it started making money, his wife abruptly stepped in and demanded she be an "equal partner" in all of it. However, she didn't take on any more responsibilities--merely started passing caustic judgment over what he and I did. Additionally, everything he wrote was retconned to add her as co-author. We'd built up a viable story structure, which she then began to tear down. She wanted a story built on adventure, international conflict and personal growth to focus instead on reliving her relationship with her long-dead father. Long story short, fans lost interest fast and the whole thing faded away in a whimper.
This is a pattern I've noticed over the decades. Men spend generations building up a viable property based around universal themes of courage, integrity, family, and self-sacrifice for the greater good. Women take them over and make them all about her personal gripes in failed relationships--then shriek about sexism when they don't sell as well as the original property.
Cultures need courageous and honorable male characters, I think, because males mature later in age than women, and also because paradoxically, males do not bear children and are on average faster and stronger when we do come of age, males are simply more CONSEQUENTIAL. Healthy cultures accept the prioritization of male heroes. Short-lived and dying cultures do not.
What a load of bullshit...
Progressive action requires a short-lived culture in order to flourish. Long-lived culture is literally what tradition is.
@@MK_ULTRA420 More Bullshit....
I recall a yuber commented on this as well. The problem is with no good villain there can not be a good protagonist. No foil or opposite. Thus that is why modern male character have to be dumb to elevate the female main character. I will admit hollywood and western audience would NEVER let a male antagonist hit, outsmart, trick a female main character. Thus there is no threat or character arc. That is why when watch old Hong kong movies I get so surprised when there is female character gets hit. (kung fu action movies).
As much grief as the throwaway "evil version of the hero" villains of the early MCU got, they were so much better than the current crop of non-sympathetic villains they want us to think are deep and sympathetic.
First video from this channel I've watched and I'm subscribing. I'm leaving this message mostly to boost engagement cos she deserves it. But there is at least one line there that should be highlighted: MORALITY TAKES A BACK SEAT IN FAVOR OF POWER. You go, girl!
I will never forgive Disney for ruining Star Wars. First they made Han Solo a dead beat dad and killed him off. Then they turned Luke Skywalker into a cranky failure of a jedi and a total loser and killed him of too after humiliating him. Rey is literally an allpowerful Mary Sue version of Luke Skywalker but with a personality of a cardboard. I have boycotted Disney since the last Jedi and i won't stop until Disney goes bankrupt.
Wokeness has also ruined the western superhero comics. No wonder why manga is destroying them in sales. No one wants to read a poor propaganda with one dimensional token characters.
I think the idea of heroism now adays and role models is tiktok influences and youtube creators to flock as a group, it's quite sad seeing the younger generation not being able to appreciate good films, producers seeming to give up making movies FOR people but only think about raking in as much cash from the next big thing
When you look at it all, you really come to realize that they're deliberately trying to change what the culture thinks of morality by changing the heroes our society looks up to. But so much of that effort is doomed to fail, because the heroes they're trying to replace them with are so utterly un-heroic that nobody is buying the propaganda (literally, nobody is buying the tickets and the movies and shows are flopping hard).
I can't fathom how much money Disney would be rolling in now if the Last Jedi had been a good movie and followed up with an Episode 9 that was even better (and followed up with shows as good as the first two seasons of Mandalorian). What if the Buzz Lightyear movie had been remotely watchable? All the Lightyear merch you still see on shelves would STILL be selling and people would be _begging_ for sequels. Given the movie, WHY would any boy who like spaceships even WANT that ship from Lightyear? What if She-Hulk had been a well written character instead of a feminist screed? People would be cheering FOR a second season instead of cheering that season 2 got axed. What if Dr. Strange and Shang-chi or even the Eternals had been decent movies? People might actually LIKE America Chavez . . .
Marvel has been trying to make Ms Marvel the face of the company in place of Spider Man for a DECADE now, trying to force her to be popular. And it has failed (multiple times) in the comics, in video games, as a TV series, and now as a movie. The only reason to like the character is because she's brown and Muslim. Nobody is going to like her just because she's brown and Muslim - you got to give us a REASON to root for her.
Just imagine how much money Paramount could be making if they'd actually made GOOD Star Trek shows? Look around RUclips. There are people still building models of the Enterprise (refit) that was last seen in Star Trek 6 (that was THIRTY years ago, by the way). NOBODY cares about the Discovery.
Look how flat the new Dr Who is falling.
How much money are these companies (that are theoretically supposed to be about making money) spending on this effort to emasculate our culture's heroes?
I really never considered the idea that the studio execs and writers want to subvert the narrative to make people hate the heroes that were once loved and looked up to in order to push a new narrative and moral code or lack thereof. That was pretty insightful and it makes perfect sense.
I've been binge watching all of your video and you are right on the money, keep it up!
Since a child Captain America was my favorite marvel character because he's the best a human could be. There was a bit of a power creep but his portrayal as a character was spot on. Heck the comic and movie Civil War plot lines were kicked off largely because of his rock steady morals and values. Values the new Captain Falcon definitely does not share. If the civil war plot happened with Falcon instead of Steve, it would've he would have signed and sold out everyone.
I see things a little differently, while understanding your point. I find characters who simply have good morality from the outset to be dull. The characters that are interesting to me are those with moral flaws that they must learn to overcome. This us why the story concept of Spider-Man has always fascinated me.
Needless to say, the modern trend toward identity politics fails at this. A radical feminist revenge fantasy has no character arc, any more than a perfect male hero does. The evolution of character is what made Casablanca a masterpiece, but I really wonder how many modern writers have even seen it, much less analyzed it.
I always find it ironic when women rant about the horrible world that feminism created.
All modern fantasy shows/movies look almost exactly alike. I find it hard to tell the difference between them.
Honestly. I'm an amateur write, but I don't find it all the hard to write good male or female characters. Basically, it just seems like a skill issue on their part.
(Disclaimer - The next things I write will seem like I am lavishing false flattery to earn some weird favour or attention. I’m not)
I’ve never even watched this channel before. I just clicked on this video cuz I liked the title& thought what the hell.
Holy shit! Your monologue was great! Very profound. I can’t say more cuz I have to go to work but I will post again! This was so dead on in so many ways!
All hope is not lost. These projects have lost a LOT of money, and that money train isn't infinite. Eventually, the fact that few people are going to pay to be lectured to IN LIEU OF being entertained will reduce this to the niche it always should have occupied.
"MEN ARE IDIOTS, WOMEN ARE MORE IMPORTANT AND GOD IS DEAD," THAT'S THE PREACHING OF TODAYS ARTIST IN THE WESTERN WORLD 😡😡😡
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"Most humans ARE idiots and god was never alive to begin with."...there fixed it for you.
@@audie-cashstack-uk4881 Your reply just proves my point.
Well, it's the preaching of the anti-West "artist".
There is / are plenty of good works of fiction being created. They aren't pushed by Hollywood, much less mainstream publishing. One will have to look elsewhere. But they are out there.
spiteful feminists , thats why.
Even though I am a bit off topic, isn't it weird how Taylor Sheridan manages to write strong women and no one seem to hate his shows? His females are all borderline "the message" level strong, but because he does not belittle and hate the men, it comes through the screen in a totally different way. That and this video you made makes me strongly suspect the core problem is not feminism or inclusivity, its really all about misandry and nerdshaming.
Just found this channel the other day and have been watching your videos every chance I get! I regret that I only have but one sub to give.
Wow, someone actually thought deeper about this whole thing. More than division, we need introspection. It is all one thing! (politics, movies, music, immigration...).
Alan Scott / Green Lantern and Frank Castiglione / Punisher were destroyed in comics, reversing the fundamental things that made them themselves. These were careful, thorough jobs of befouling and destruction. This did not happen by accident or because anyone thought that this was the way to make money. Everybody already knew how to make money with the Punisher, and he was destroyed because he was too well accepted by the public to suit writers who hated them and him.
"Punisher....lunchbox? Yeah good idea!"
Eragon was so badly done, for sure. I was actually rooting for the antagonist in that movie adaptation lol
There is no virtue that is not founded in love.
Matthew 22:37-40 ESV
[37] And he said to him, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. [38] This is the great and first commandment. [39] And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. [40] On these two commandments depend all the Law and the Prophets.”
I'm making a series where the main protagonist got struck into another world but however he happened to became a pirate. When he start up the ship. It's goes flying off to space. It's have elements of series like Tri-Gun, Gurren Lagann & Gokaiger.
Does he really have to be isekai'd? Can't he just be a mechanic with dreams of grandeur and adventure? You should only isekai a character if you have no other way of adding them to the setting.
It sounds like a cool idea btw :)
We need a collaboration with nerdword and baggage claim. Both are so spot on with their diagnosis of Hollywood writing.
Because when you can't reach The Patriarchy ™, you lash out at the nearest analogue.
On the topic of Lord of the Rings and Aragorn, I love Theoden. He became corrupted and manipulated and he becomes fearful thus leading to their near extinction at Helm’s Deep. He has a lot of pain and anger alongside his fear, but in Return of the King he really comes around to becoming a hero king and leads the charge at Pelinnor Fields.
The thing that bothers me is a trend I am seeing wherein male roles and titles/names are being turned into mantles instead of their identity. Spider powers? You’re THE Spiderman. Picking up Mjolnir? You’re THE Thor. Got the shield? you’re THE Captain America. No longer are our male heroes symbols and individuals, no, they just occupied a title and all the deeds they did is tied to the title anyone can pick up later. It’s disgusting.
I am so happy my favorite scifi show isn't popular enough for a reboot, I still watch old episodes of Farscape with a sigh of familiarity and comfort.
@@LandOfTheGeek yeah since it went off the air they've been talking but it's not going to happen.
Thanks for your great take on the current situation. Great work!
These new installments are not canon to me. Just no. The way they go about both male and female characters is so foolish. It’s totally an insult to both men and women.
Moral and loyalty are despised by the 1%. Every form of "value" except consumption is fraud upon. This is clearly seen in the assault on christianity. Because compassion and a belief in something more important than "me", makes people cooperate and see their fellow man/woman. And that's "bad", because them people work with each other, instead of only existing for them self and their ego. Nice and intelligent program. Love from Copenhagen 🇸🇪🇩🇰🇵🇱
Well, I agree, but here's the problem.
I'm at the point where when I find someone aware and consistent in raising awareness to the problem for a year or more, I'd like to see more than just rehashing and re-highlighting the issue. Maybe it's easier to do just that, but this content has an incredibly short life-span. Like, if I know one channel who's aware of this and see one video, I don't need 20 more.
Something to keep in mind. Begin imagining topics about fixing this situation and presenting stories that do it right, otherwise this is just "Consume product, get angry at the next product, rinse and repeat".
Yet again an excellent video essay. I hope the more established YT cultural commentators are watching! Great stuff and here's to your continued success
They even made THE TERMINATOR, a killer cyborg into a loser simp. A freaking drapery salesman
bahahaha correct.
Very good! You deserve way more subscribers
To answer the end of your video:
There is only one way to fix this.
Create and tell better stories independently in a parallel economy.
Take inspiration from Critical Drinker or YoungRippa59 (Eric July) and others like them.
Go out there and tell stories.
Bravo! Well said and explained!
There is enough entertainment to distract one for decades. Let them do any garbage they want, ignore it and watch decent stuff from 30 years ago. Simple.
thank you for thhis vid... thank yu for pointing out the star wars mary-sue... and the demolition of the old heros.
Seriously this is the most obvious sign someone can’t write or tell a continuous story. Luke Skywalker is one the wort offense to modern cinema. These people really are lame.
As a gen X’er I’m amazed that younger people refer to the mediocre LOTR as something wonderful. But when I look at the utter garbage they’ve grown up with it’s clear that even what was once mediocre is now exceptional. I weep for the richness of life todays kids have been deprived of 😢
Which one? Rings of Power?
Don't forget that marvel take pride at calling themselve 《relatable》by erasing any barrier possible between characteres and us.
This is why i alway preffered DC... not the best, ok, but working on 《being an inspirationnal model 》as a goal
One exception: Kate Bishop.
She constantly shows in Hawkeye that she is not ready to be "Hawkeye". The very best Kate is nowhere near the worst version of Clint. He takes out the Track Suits with ease, she gets herself caught. The first time you see her, she fucks up and gets suspended from college. She needs Clint, looks up to him and never belittled him. She is the one and only proper successor.
Fair enough, this is true.
100%
The only thing wrong with that show was Kingpins so called successor Echo
Im a woman. and I miss male heroes. and female heroes who are actually human.
The Anti-Male Heroic Deconstructionist Movement is over. Heroes are heroes not because they don’t have our human flaws, but because they do and do the right thing regardless of how they might suffer or even die. This movement does put power above doing what is right despite or even because of the suffering involved. We do what is right because it is right not because it is easy.
I feel like there's one more aspect to this. There's also the aspect that many of these women that have gone through and changed so many things, especially with the men. They are angry that many of the men they meet now do not have these qualities. And it makes them hate the idea that they do not have a partner like this. So they would rather destroy and dummy down these men to make them feel comfortable with the partners they are with currently then expecting the men they are around to rise to these levels.
As someone who absolutely loved reading the inheritance series as a child, I was completely blown away by just how awfully they adapted it. Like at that point even someone with 0 skills could have made a better film just from having read the books and respecting the story.
What they made literally wasn't even the inheritance series. It was just some disgusting fantasy nightmare with similar names. I have not seen a story adapted that poorly since War World Z, and even then at least that movie was still half enjoyable on its own lmao
It’s sad that’s hardly any good role models for boys these days.
🧙♂️🪄💨 The sacred isn't merely a concept created by religion but more the intrinsic value found in all work. For creative literary work it is vital to have a good solid sacred that spurs the imagination within it so it can out last the life of it's writer.
Bob Iger doubled the amount he got paid. On a personal level he could probably go on like this forever.
As long as LotR is remembetd there will allways be good role modles.
The endless ESG money is already starting to dry up. Loans used to be basically free money printing not so long ago, so plenty of businesses could be run on credit without actually being profitable.
But interst rates are once more a thing now in an attempt to deal with the inflation, so a lot of ideology stuff may go away since it simply can't stand on its own without endless infusions of money.
Just found your channel, thank you for your video's. Do you read any fantastic, like Gemmell, Eddings?
Its 2023 narcissistic, rude, and self importance is the new hero type and the villians are likable. Upside down turn around world.
This is why Star Wars, Bond, LOTR, Star Trek (science fiction media in general) and now Superhero's have all been destroyed or at least the male hero's and replaced with selfish female counter-parts. It also explains why mainstream critics hated Top Gun Maverick or really any male hero thats not defined by a women. Characters like John Wick are acceptable because he's a hit man operating in a unrealistic world full of killers.
Cat Noir: First time?
We got 2 MCU content overhauls before GTA 6 😭😭😭😭😭😭
Related to your topic, Why Millions Of Fans Are Rejecting Such Depictions...
Fictional characters are not role models. Real people are role models. Maybe you are referring to actors? I would discourage any young person from looking up to actors or fictional characters as role models. Most actors have questionable morals and lifestyles. And really, they get rich by playing pretend. I taught my children to expect much more from someone they admire and wish to emulate.
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Fictional role models peaked with Mr. Rogers. Everybody else is just an imitation.
Your analysis was provocative and insightful. Your last reason is particularly troubling. Obviously, mindless hero worship can lead to evil and unintended consequences. If one looks at the iconic perpetrations of evil, one simply does not find its supporters crying, "What we do, we do in the name of evil." Quite the contrary, great evil typically adopts a mask of goodness. That remains true in the modern world, for the Mary Sues crafted to humiliate male heroes are still painted as virtuous and good, though their victories emphasize their power over their goodness.
The struggle between good and evil--inside the individual or within a society--itself resonates with the human experience. It's hard to tell a dramatic story without assuming the distinction. Even stories about a human being struggling to survive against the forces of nature suggest that a person's survival is a good thing, one that we should prefer over nature's victory over human life. But once we believe that good and evil are merely social constructs that we may change as easily as we change our clothes, then morality ceases to possess any objective moral warrant. Morality becomes what society says that it is--or, at least, what the elites who believe that they control society say that it is. The Nuremberg Race Laws in Nazi Germany, for example, were first announced by the Party and then enacted into law the very same day as the announcement, yet these racist laws enjoyed popular support among Germans. This social definition of morality ceases to be about justice and humane treatment decreed by a transcendent standard that has the moral authority to judge the works of humankind. Instead, it becomes a means of manipulation by which the elites tell the rest of society how to feel and think. In fact, Nazi ethical philosophy seriously argued that morality was that which benefited the Third Reich, an ethical view that Stalin and Mao applied to their own tyrannical governments. In that light, the latest, politically-correct fad becomes the illegitimate voice of a mere fading memory of moral authority, a voice that imposes its will by the force of social censure--or even worse. Those using this cultural memory seek merely to manipulate others into thinking and acting in a certain way. If one wants proof of that, note the sixtieth-anniversary episode of Dr Who, an episode in which The Doctor is criticized in a most cringe fashion for assuming an alien's pronouns. The very idea of "chosen pronouns" does not refer to pronouns one uses about oneself. If a man chooses "she/her," for example, as pronouns of sexual identity, that is simply a demand imposed as a duty upon others, the attempt to force them into recognizing and submitting to an arbitrary choice of personal identity. She will still say, for example, "This is my coffee," but others must say, "This is her coffee." How many genders are we up to now? The idea of choosing personal pronouns is innately coercive and manipulative. Ironically, its power to influence rests upon a mere memory of an authoritative distinction between good and evil--one that the manipulators, themselves, do not take seriously.
I’m not sure if the causes of these problems is as conspiratorial as the comments think it is. It might just be something simple:
It’s absolutely true that our society has suffered from sexism. The recent demand for heroines is a valid response to the fact that in the past, women could only have three main jobs - housewife, prostitute, or secretary. Because supply meets demand, Hollywood now tries to make “strong female characters.” The problem is, California rich kids who go to California universities tend to be psychopaths who have no understanding of what a hero is. As a result, characters lately fail to achieve the good PR Hollywood wants.
My point is, I don’t think there’s a secret cabal of gay people or Jews (actual conspiracies I’ve heard) trying to socially engineer the downfall of the USA. The executives who now fund these movies are the same old guys who groped their secretaries in the ‘90s and probably still do.
Disney is just a funny way of spelling misandry
Its strange how they sort of swap things around,like the female characters act more male than the male characters who instead take on female traits.
It's like having a male character but in the body of a woman and vice versa sort of,also making male characters dumb doesn't make female characters strong.
I feel that great female characters can be made if they are allowed to be well feminine and embrace that natural side of them, instead of trying to be like a man.
I think the only movie that didnt get downgraded for politics, was both James Bond and John Wick. The first, at the beginning,seem like it would take that route of 'hurr,now this is a wahmen IP' but soon fix it, and Wick never stopped being a badass from begining to end.
I think thats why Insomiac's Spiderman 2 relationship between MJ and Peter is so liked. MJ would literally go up to against Thanos just to help Peter,but its never to take his spotlight, she gets her own.
there are big problems with spiderman 2, it is also following the same agenda as everything else. it's actually doing harm, because its successful in spite of the woke because its spiderman property, and this is a bad thing because this is the result they want in ALL properties. They want the fans to buy things because of the beloved franchise title even if it is full of woke. which is what is happening with spiderman 2. What, you didn't notice Mary Jane looks like a trans man? lol
I personally don’t see it that way. Imo, it seems like it’s more accurate to say that they are trying to reflect the current culture. The social culture was different in the 80s, different from the 90s, different from the 2000s, and so on and so forth. Content creators are pandering to their audience who adopt different social constructs over time due to many sociological factors.
You're saying hating on men is a 2020's cultural value? To a point you are right abour changingntimes making for changing stories, but we can also hear the directors, writers and actors who are there as activists first, and good content creators second.
Interesting analysis.
well not after the release and huge success of Dune 2 which very strong male role models.
4 Annoying Main Male Stereotypical Characters That Entertainment Companies Should Seriously Stop Showing:
1. The Creepy Sexual Womanizer
2. The Hyperfeminine Flamboyant Whiner
3. The Lazy Drunkard
4. The Macho Gangster Thug
4 Amazing Male Characters That Entertainment Companies Should Definitely Show:
1. The Clever Scientist
2. The Heroic Warrior
3. The Protective Family Man
4. The Successful Entrepreneur
The title should have been "Why Modern Male Role Models are unnecessarily overpowered by Arrogant Girlbosses?"
I think you nailed it, great break down. Make some more content! :_0