LIVE!? - Welding Bandsaw Blades & Startrite Saw
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- Опубликовано: 22 мар 2018
- New-to-me old vertical bandsaw, great addition so far. Tour of the saw, then some blade welding with TIG. And the usual shenanigans, of course.
So my "interlacing" joke backfired. Oh cruel world. Always something, eh?
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Music: "Apocalypse" - SYBS 
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5 years on and this video is *_STILL LIVE_*
Old Tony, your dedication is amazing
GO STF! My old Alma Mater. Our mascot was the horse you rode in on.
South Tulsa Farming University.
@@DavidRichfield I may steal that.
"*Rode* in on"
Support STFU athletics! Go Noobs!
I got my BS at STFU.
I can't believe how creative this channel is. There're so many lessons to be learnt for many ( me included )
Alex French Guy Cooking you here aswel lol i never expected to see a professional onion cuter and metal cutter on the same page
sometimes he starts explaining a cavet and then i realize how i can use that is my daily work flow. grant it i not a cnc jedi master like tony, but rather the jar jar binks from the macguyver school of engineering. keep the good works tony u2 alex.
For sure mate! Funny story... I watch your videos because of TOT making the pasta maker for you!
Honestly I can't believe how creative your channel is, you're like the French version of Alton Brown for me.
Many thanks, Alex, for sending me to This Old Tony. I would never have found him without you. And thanks for the great content, good food, interesting builds, sense of humor, problem solving and video editing on your channel, too. I can see why you and TOT wanted to collaborate.
The Meta of Metal
Second for second your videos have some of the best production value of any RUclipsr out there. Between the live commenting and the Möbius strip - if there was a ”fifth wall” for video editing. You broke it.
Tony made me laugh when he edited in the "subscribe" to the band-saw settings, and LOL at the (ancient) ASBESTOS setting on the dial. But the calm set-up with the V-Block and Blue Sharpie and then seeing the blade come around with ink on the opposite side and then the WORD: Möbius was LMAOROTFL, and more when Tony showed the completed metal Escher image.
BRAVO TONY !!!
I was waiting for him to throw the tablet through the band saw LOL
Greg Dent so did I!
me too!
I think that actually counts as a phone these days
Greg Dent me too!
He did @11.42
4 dimensional band sawing can be done with other blades, but I recommend Escher brand - Swiss and expensive, but much better distortion of reality.
thisnicklldo I tried Giger and Beksinski blades in the past. Do great at cutting through existential angst. I'm still getting ptsd flashbacks.
Escher was Dutch
Cut with a Schröedinger once, dropped and lost the final piece and I never knew if it was actually cut. Next I'll try Occam's razor; it's said to most probably do a easy job.
After 30 years of working on large bandsaws in saw mills, it still amazes me that welds in 13" wide and 40 to 50 foot long bands can run with welded teeth and cracks for 10 to 12 hours and still hold. That"s not a normal run but it happens. The best saws are from Udaholm in Sweden.
I have tried brazing and silver soldering bandsaw blades, and after lots of trial and error, mistakes, and wasted time, I found that the secret was....I went on Ebay and bought a blade welder. Hope this tip helps someone.
Tig weld then anneal the weld
Most entertaining channel on The Tube... You had me at Mobius!!!!!
agree. f you want however some more, check out "ave". he is fun as well.
The trouble with Mobius bandsaw blades is that half the time they are cutting back into the guides.
so he didn't have you until the very end of the video?
When I tried that saw trick at the end, my clock started running backwards. I'm not sure what that meant.
Jay Zenitram
It means that you were thinking about Grace Hopper while making the Möbius strip.
I can't believe I fell for that live thing. And nice job on the blades, the first time I tried this I was convinced it's bad practice and bound to fail, but to my amazement the blade worked for like 20 minutes
Phil Vandelay that comment made me check out your channel... love it! you need more subscribers!
Just Subbed!
I think easiest way to weld this is use those purpose designed resistance welder, I tried gas welding and while I only welded training sections (used a broken and too short bimetal blade for this) I have mixed success, and it's very skill intensive since there's a very fine line between a good joint and melting holes through it. I found it better to just get barely a puddle on it, and join both sides than to try and melt the blade all the way through to join it. It also helps to melt the blade a little more, and push the joint together to weld it. However you'll have to anneal it good and it won't be as strong as the unwelded saw body itself. Seems success in welding bandsaw blade is mixed with TIG, MIG, or even stick (has anyone tried to stick weld bandsaw blades?) It sounds like a good thing to put on a welder resume, "successfully welded bandsaw blades with an oxyacetylene torch". I mean if you can weld this you can weld anything.
For carbon steel seems better to braze it, but bimetal won't take braze alloys at all (it snaps clean off).
I totally LOVE your kind of humor. These videos made my day!
Why do you need a saw, you always cut steel by hand or sneezing?
The möbius bit at the end got me. Thanks for all your effort.
Really it was just the Sharpy bleeding through... probably over did the annealing.
Explains the variance in cutting speed.
so, when you're live and can't edit the video, you just cheat and edit the timestream?
Brilliant as ever!
Thanks Alec!
@Dann isNot A man but a deepfake 1 what is wrong with you?
I don’t know how I missed this episode till now but this is one of the best! Thank you!
Nice machine, A vertical bandsaw is one of the best addition to the shop.
For a metal cutting bandsaw nothing beats solid bandsawguides. Either hardened toolsteel or carbide. Yours look a bit worn ;)
The run smoother than roller guides and you dont roll chips into the bearing/blade.
Btw: Matthias Wandel disaproved the three wheel bandsaw.
Btw2: Selling a shaper is a major crime in most European countries.
That explains the strange behaviour. Buyer showed up in a black ski mask and one of those voice changer boxes. I didn't say anything at the time, figured it was just their European flair. ;)
Black market shapers. Really?
Why is that Stefan?
What if I just used cast iron?
I'd love to see someone make a solid carbide guide with the side guides ported for coolant so it forms a hydrodynamic bearing.
I prefer magnetic blade guides. Optical blade position sensors, superconducting electromagnets on 4 sides of the blade to keep it centered, and a fairly large electronics / power supply. No concerns about tooth clearance, but it can be a problem when cutting steel.
Congratulations. You have managed to find that niche of the internet which relates to machining and fabrication through dad humor. 250000 subscribers and sometimes your mom. Something tells me there will be more.
Edit: And, as of now, 21 people who have no idea how useful a Mobius saw blade really is. Pearls before swine.
Carson McMahon: The biggest benefit of a "Mobius Bandsaw" TM,
Is it doubles the blade's lifetime because it has to go around twice to get back to its starting orientation! 😏😉😜😎
Also, as it has only one side and one edge, construction is greatly simplified and it used far less material...
Carson McMahon : Good point!
However, heat treating and final sharpening take twice as long.
😉😜😎
Carson McMahon Mobius was that black guy in the Matrix? ;-)
I really like the mobius blade idea, I've been looking for something to start cutting work on my Alcubierre drive, this might just do the trick! Thanks again Tony!
glad to see some one else saw that
If only the Alcubierre drive was confirmed possible. We just havent found a way to satisfy the negative mass requirement of the Alcubierre drive yet
Tony Live your even better than recorded.. Unbelievable.. 😁
You're show will never get boring and learned so many things from you and other tubers you all know well.. I wouldn't know what to do without you... technical and humorously 😎😎😎 Thanx
I've been following this channel for ages now and know to expect jokes, but that last bit about turning the blade 180° caught me way off guard. I'm crying with laughter! Best RUclips channel for sure. Thanks for all the time you put in Tony. It's inspiring as a hobbyist machinist myself!
Amazing work on the Escher illusion, I did a full-on double take.
My five years at STFU were some of the best of my life.
Travis J I Corcoran Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life son.
Every time I open my mouth and try to teach the kids about life's lessons, I am reminded by them where I got my diploma! STFU!
Scientific &Technical Functions University.... but how T F do they know?
Apologies, but I liked your comment so much that I ruined the fact it had 69 likes.
I totslly expected the sharpie Mark to show up on the opposite side, but I aldo expected this to be the pun 😂
The thing with the möbius strip and introducing a 180° turn before welding just got me lying on the ground dying because of laughing. This channel is simply gold 🤣🤣
I love this channel. I learn a lot, while being entertained. Thank you Tony.
Möbius saw blade and the forced perspective at the end are without doubt your best jokes yet.
Bolted bandsaw blades will eventually work lose due to vibration and flexing. Pop-rivets are the way to go.
FXM or just tie a little knot
nyloc nuts or a spring washer do wonders ;)
You guys make things so difficult. Superclue and activator are all you need and you're back up and running in under 30 seconds. You bunch of amateurs!
Just slip a cotter pin through there. Or an old keyring. #lifehacks
FXM Put both ends through a growler and magnetize. Presto! Easy assembly & disassembly for all applications forever. 🤔🙄
You are a very knowledgeable man and funny too love your humor! I have wanted to get into Machining my whole life just never have but watching your channel really makes me want to learn as much as I can about making whatever I want to make!. keep up the awesome work brother
Love your channel! Heck, I didn't know a thing about a shop before I started watching, but you keep it interesting all along, and explain everything in the tedious detail it takes to seep through my noggin.
Absolutely hilarious. The string was genius.
5:11 sneaky sneaky subliminal messaging
oooh the value of putting a smile on my face. I need a tony of my own in my garage.
Great spot mate. I catch them normally but this one was a bit tough.
Good catch! I completely missed that one.
I CANT FIND IT
His video editing is really good
I like this channel. You have more dad jokes than I do.
I always learn something on your channel. You have an awesome sense of humor. Don't change a thing.
You rock.
This is excellent. Education mixed with the perfect amount and style of comedy. And the effort put into it! Keep it up man! This is true RUclips gold
One trick for getting the ends fit up is to hold the blade blank in kind of a big U with the cut ends together. Then twist one of the ends over so the two ends of the blade are laying flat on each other buy the teeth are pointing away from each other. Hit both ends on the grinder simultaneously. When you match them up to weld it doesn't matter if the ends are square or not, because they with be opposite angles and fit up regardless.
Oh goddamnit Tony’s gone too meta. We can’t contain the continuity field. Meme overflow imminent
I have the 24" model of the same saw. Lovely British engineering. I have just bought a 4" toolmakers vice. Using the guides on the table I slide the vice between them. I have just cut up some 1/4" angle to make some brackets. The pieces are true to within 0.002" - almost as good as a milling machine. I love my saw! Just changed the oil in the gearbox. It was like cold butter! Probably not changed in 40 years!
I have so much fun listening to any of your videos, whatever the subject, always fun.
Nice work. Glad i 'saw' this video.
...And the penguin says, no, that's ice cream!
Looks like you blew a seal...
You make me want to buy every piece of equipment, tools and machinery that you show on your channel. I'm addicted. Thanks Harold.
Very high quality videos, both from informative and entertainment point of view. You're a gifted person, congratulations !
TOT live? What's the world coming to? We've already had more vids this year than in practically all of 2017... Not that I'm complaining...
Not sure why you need a bandsaw when your finger snapping (11:10) cuts pretty straight!!!!!
I think Tony got that technique from Chuck Norris
Ah you see, this is a common misconception. Snaprifting is not a cutting process, because the space-acoustic-wave created by the snap creates a miniscule rift in the crystalline interconnection of the workpiece, momentarily tearing a rift in the material. Since the rift is not filled with air, it is practically a vacuum, and ambient air is forced into the rift, pushing it apart.
That's why the technique cuts almost in a perfect plane perpendicular to Ampere's right-hand rule normal vector.
for curves!
Assuming... One must be very careful in the direction that one Snaprifts!!!!!
Who says he needed it?
Want is enough justification. 🤣
Tony. This puts a smile on my face for the rest of the week. And whenever I see a band saw from now on. Thanks for the video.
thanks!
You can tell you put a lot of effort into this one. One of your most entertaining videos in my opinion. Up there with time travel. Loving this spate of TOT we are getting currently. Keep up the good work.
You give Us so much happy minutes, you are a good n smart person I like your video, thank you
Was the shaper making eyes at the surface grinder or bench grinder? Rumour has it the bench grinder goes both ways...
I hear there's an app for that. It's like tinder for stationary tools.
I wonder why there was an app called Grindr ...
I'll get my coat ...
I’m so glad that you never repeated that little notification thing in more recent videos. I love your stuff man, but by the 4th time in this video I almost had to quit. Thank you
man your editing is amazing. super amusing. love this channel. I get super excited when I see you've got a new upload. Thanks!
awww! I got so excited for a live stream. Take my like anyways, This Old Tease
But I thought the only thing you couldn't make with a shaper was a profit?
Or cuttlefish
Great video! Had to "pause" the video at the end and do a double-take. Educational and entertaining as usual. KEEP THE NEW VIDEOS COMING! Thanks!
The effort you put into these videos makes them so damn amazing to watch
I saw Mobius strip once, it was not a pretty sight.
A Mobius bit mi sister once. It was pretti nasti.
come on mate realy 😂
I tried a Mobius strip joint once. I still don't like to talk about it.
He was rather klein though :)
Nice metal cutting gag for this video! Just simple tin snips to get through a bandsaw blade, eh?
So how did you really do it? Hydraulic diamond-coated encabulating laser cutter??
I can't believe your "instant cut metal" gag is still funny enough to get me every time...
I would never repeat your jokes in public, thank you for taking this task off us. :) great video.
mica, polystyrene, rubber hard, asbestos, subscribe... LOL :'D
(I really admire the work you put into these...and your sense of humor; every time I re-watch, I find something else... brilliant: you really make my day, Tony!)
You had me until you pulled out that super duper microphone.
Man that's a huge cellphone.
Hill Top Machine Works
No, it's just that he has Itty bitty hands ! 😊
What kinda trickery was at the end ? 21:46 🤔
BarharborBasher he just painted the other side of the band too, but not all the way arround, then backed it up and started again.
Truth be told, I was waiting for him to cut that phone in half.
I can only speak for myself, but would like you to know how much I appreciate all the effort you put into your videos. It's a lot of work, but for me that makes you the brightest shining star on youtube.
Thanks for the insights, education and entertainment!
thanks Patrik!
Every home-gamer's workshop needs a möbius bandsaw!
Thanks, Tony; that was an instructive budget of giggles.
Just keeps getting better.
you had me there at the start
This is my favorite channel!
Every time a video end I'll looking forward to see next one! Best channel on RUclips!
Love the antics! Great channel
We use those same Road mics on the podcast. They work great.
Kept thinking you were going to test it on the Samsung.Those snips did a great job on that bi metal blade. I think you(or I) might like a video on making ball bearing guides. Lastly, I want to rebuild my $60 drill press, but can't figure it out. There was an awesome RUclips video, but I can't find the link.
Your videos are difficult to watch when my eyes fill with tears of laughter. Your warped sense of humor (humour for the English speaking population :-) ) is BRILLIANT! ...and I just thought you were going to cut that wood on the bandsaw, not use it as a violent weapon :-) Your videos are so good that even the comments are great! As someone else commented we need more than a like button for your videos, we need a "really, really, really Like" button. So you finally made a profit with the shaper.
PROPERLY mixing information and comedy is QUITE a knack. Very entertaining
But you were using the shaper all kinds. I was almost convinced I needed one. Now how the heck are you going to make keyed slots ? I would like to see it tones.
Square endmills!
I was like.... did I miss something?
Last 15 seconds had me rolling. Thank you very much, that was awesome.
Oh man this was great. 😀 Congratulations on the new band saw. 😀
Oh no, R.I.P Shapey McShapeface :´(
If only it wasn't live, you could have edited out the interlacing joke.
Good stuff Tony, love the comedy and the machining. Great video thumbs up.
Love all your videos, but what I enjoy more is you. Keep up the good work and more videos.
Hey Tony. Nice saw. I'm going to miss seeing the shaper cam. I think STFU is South Tuscon Finance University :)
oh the subliminal subscribe messages. i do wish i could subscribe more than once..
I’m subscribing with 4 accounts 🤭
One personal the others for work
The cutting speeds for subscribe seem off to me.
Tony, thanks again!
I built a bandsaw about 15 or 20 years go. I used ball bearings for the guides and they are still working well. I think you can get them tighter than the cast blocks, I use it mostly for thin metal and cutting circuit boards. It's been really handy. I think the cast and fiber might be better for wood and they probably clean the blades better.
I bought a 1/2" welder for my horizontal saw and in the last 30 years or so it's more than paid for itself besides you can cut inside holes like you said.
Told my dad I got a new bandsaw. First thing he saws is “how long is the blade. I’ll braze some new ones for you.” He’s been putting together blades for sixty years. Your video brings back good memories. Thanks TOT !
So, I guess we need the Mobius blade for that upcoming tesseract project..?
Why didnt you tell us you had mobius stripped it before you started cutting? Of course thats why it was cutting chunky, it was cutting with the back side every other revolution.... you left us guessing, Tony
Another great video, thank you Tony! someone has probably commented about this already but here goes… On the “cut both ends of the bandsaw blade as square as possible“, a trick I learned in junior high school (The years of school before high school) shop is to hold the blades (both sides of the blade) in the orientation they will eventually be welded in, one side in your right hand and the other in your left hand, now twist them together and lay them on top of each other and hit them against your grinding wheel making a very flat grind. When you un-spring the blade back to its normal position, whether the cut is square or not the two ends of the blade will meet perfectly and the blade will be straight for welding. I’d send a picture, but - you know, RUclips and everything.
I understand all of that except for the "twist them together" part. What do you mean?
I have an Enco 14" band saw *with* blade welder (240V) and I'm thinking of TIG welding my blades to see how they compare. One thing my saw has over yours is adjustable guides. The back support (above) and the sides (below) are 3 separate parts, and it's a snap to adjust for different blade width or thickness. Cloning this head would give your life new meaning. I thought about replacing it with rollers but the hardened surfaces are doing great after 20 years, so no need. I absolutely *LOVED* the mobius gag at the end, and the Penrose square was priceless. God how I love your channel.
I believe you could do a video on sharpening pencils and make it as fun as the latest block buster movie xD GO STF!
Congratulations on 250K subs! I hope you do some nice metal working on it- maybe a belt buckle?
My offer to donate gold and diamonds to the play buckles cause still stands.
I have HAD IT with this channel. Only gonna watch like 3 or 4 more years and that's it 😁
time to make a stand!
This was brilliant! And that mobius gag at the end was pretty clever.
I love that Road Microphone. Quality.
4 minutes in... When is he gonna cut that Samsung tablet in two??
copeej 21:52
I have to admit the shenanigans at the end were the funniest thing I've seen so far today.
You're on point today Tony, laughed myself silly on this one. Keep up the great work.
This Old Escher.
21:40 *existential screaming*
Always love the jokes and creativity! Keep it up!
Oh man! I love your videos and your humor! All these little background details one simply have to laugh about all the time!
Not to mention the obvious jokes
And we are live! Now with my tablet and my tin can
Here am I floating round my tin can.
Oh, I really thought this was live when I got the notification! Of course, it's obvious what T stands for.
Sorin Negulescu What does it stand for?
Tony, of course!
Now, seriously. I believe it's because it can also Tilt. Not sure. Better go with Tony. :)
I love the "mind twists" you add in. Best "Live" broadcast ever.
It is seriously amazing how you consistently outdo your previous creativity.