We need the following new tests. -High speed rearend crash. -roof strength for LARGE suv’s. -offset rearending a semi. -CORNERING lights and REVERSE lights alongside your headlight test.
I think they could update the small overlap by putting the barrier at a 25 degree angle, instead of a 0 degree angle. As well as a dummy in the rear seat. They could also test the airbag deployment. Since the crash I was once in, the airbag felt like it was halfway down when I was striking it.
@@ClownyGamer what i think they should do is add a rear passenger in the right seat, to see if it also applies to other occupants. Like the Driver Side Small Overlap and the Passenger Side Small Overlap!!
@@Mabeylater293 Updated small overlap front (with rear passengers) is my guess for a future test, though the rear end crash test may be sooner. I would think cars should probably limit speeds to 10 mph unless the driver is belted, but I've heard that was very unpopular amongst the population we rely on for organ donations. The semi test is hard because lots of semis themselves have mediocre crash gates that crumble and decapitate drivers. So testing on a good semi wouldn't necessarily give good real world results.
Thats actually really impressive that Toyota was able to make structural changes to improve its crash worthiness while still being in the same generation and only a year, a vast majority of makes wont bother until they do a full redesign.
GM has had years to understand and design headlights to pass the IIHS test, so there's no excuse for them releasing a new vehicle that earns a Poor headlight rating. It seems to me that GM, for whatever reason, does not see any value in trying to earn an award from IIHS. Not sure if they have a grudge because of their performance on the moderate overlap tests in the 90s or what, but clearly they don't care.
I totally agree w you. When was the last time a GM vehicle earned a TSP+ rating? We all the resources GM, it shouldn’t be hard to produce a top crash performing car…it’s like they intentionally decided to design a bad car.
Does a given vehicle meet federal minimum safety requirements? If so, that's all that matters to most people---myself included. I recently purchased a 2025 Toyota Camry SE for my wife and did not consider its safety rating. Moreover, I find most of its driver assistance systems quite annoying.
A few years ago I bought my wife an Outback for her 50th birthday. I chose the Outback because of its Safety, Reliability and the Symmetrical AWD system that is the Best AWD system on Earth. When we bought our (my) 23 Toyota TRD Off Road, double cab, 6’ bed was because it’s ok in Safety but is the most Reliable midsize pickup ever. My wife is younger than I am, so when her Outback wears out, we’ll replace it with another one, or possibly a Forester. Her next vehicle will be her last one and my Tacoma will be my Last pickup.
Love all your research. How come we don’t have center airbags in the US like they do in other markets? They seems to be very effective in the Euro NCAP crashes.
We do with some models in the USA. It's just that Europe's standards are a bit higher, so they offer those airbags there and not here. It's completely up to the manufacturer.
Do y’all have plans to evaluate the large SUV class again sometime in the near future? It would be nice to see y’all evaluate the updated 2025 Chevrolet Suburban and Tahoe to see if they have made structural changes to improve small overlap protection on the passenger side as well as better restraints in the rear seat to improve rear passenger protection in the updated moderate overlap crash test. Y’all should also reevaluate their headlight performance to see if their updated headlights have addressed the headlight deficiencies of the prior 2023-2024 models. And y’all should also test the Toyota Sequoia, Nissan Armada, and new Ford Expedition whenever y’all get the chance to test those vehicles as well.
I recently had a suburban rental and we loved it. I was seriously considering getting one until I saw the poor crash results. I doubt GM made any crash improvements w the refresh. Otherwise they would have touted it and urged IIHS to do a retest. With GM horrible record on poor crash worthy vehicles, I doubt they spent any resources in improving the crash performance.
@@Wasabi9111 same... I want to see them do it to the Hummer EV, Escalade iQ, Silverado EV, Equinox EV, MERCEDES Benz S Class, Mercedes Benz G Class, Rolls Royce, Lamborghini vehicles, Porsche, and all these other luxury brands ..
I don't know how trucks like the F150 can get the ratings they do. This class of trucks poses a substantial risk to smaller vehicles, motor & regular cyclists, as well as pedestrians. It's hypocrisy that they can get even a marginal rating. Why doesn't the IIHS penalise this class of vehicle? In addition, these commercial vehicles are used extensively for domestic and leisure use. Come on IIHS, you know these trucks will kill people in small cars that have your highest rating. It is time to act and not just to write articles.
"I would think this [head lights] is something that General Motors could change quickly for this Cadillac [Lyriq] ..." Yes, if it is part of their 5 year plan. Meanwhile, Toyota fixed a major safety concern in the Tundra crew cab in one year without a full redesign. IIHS should give awards for the most responsive manufacturer.
Would you put dummies to the center seats of the 2nd and the 3rd rows? Some vehicles don’t have real center headrests simply because there is no FMVSS requirement for it.
A future factor to start look for is how modern lights from oncoming vehicles blinds drivers when its dark! Maybe make matrix headlights mandatory (if that would help?!)
They already do that and it was specifically mentioned in the video. That's the reason the Cadillac Lyriq didn't get a top safety pick rating. Listen next time before posting.
Subaru! Not surprised, I like how they have that amazing brand in the background as they are talking. Well done and congratulations Subaru. 🏆🏆 No wonder they are the number one brand rated for sooooo much in consumers report
The chart in the link shows the Volvo XC60 as Good and Acceptable in the updated Moderate Overlap test. Possibly the G should be the original test and the A the updated test. Copywriter put Updated under both ratings.
Headlight of new vehicles should have a maximum height allowance no matter how big or tall they are. Headlight location height should not exceed the height of the tallest sedan headlight location! Cause no matter how good headlight designs are, if they are located at the height of a sedan driver head, it will blind them drivers at night!
The safety of rear passengers has been neglected for far too long and needs to be improved a lot. Why are there no airbags on the back of the front seats and why are rear side airbags still an option or unavailable on a lot of vehicles?
I have contacted the IIHS numerous times about the issue with these LED headlights and nothing has been done. 90 percent of these SUVs and Pick up trucks are blinging oncoming traffic!! Why are these big vehicles even allowed!!!!!!!
Addressing glare is one of the goals of our test program, and we are seeing improvements. For the 2023 model year, only 6% of the headlight systems tested had excessive glare, compared with 20% in the 2017 model year. We expect to see more improvement. The introduction of adaptive driving beam headlights in the U.S. will help as well, but for now there are only a couple of models with that technology.
Please add an evaluation of the tailllights and penalize for red turn signals and any combination lamps. Tailllights need to have separate running, brake and amber turn signals. Tailllights on most USDM vehicles are very poor and I don't understand why. Is it ignorance, incompetence or an affinity for less effective and ambiguous taillights?
There should be ratings for glare on hills, oh and handling grade so we know if the car will perform well in emergency. dont be too concerned about all this safety rubbish when we can look to avoid crashes in the first place!
We need the following new tests.
-High speed rearend crash.
-roof strength for LARGE suv’s.
-offset rearending a semi.
-CORNERING lights and REVERSE lights alongside your headlight test.
I think they should add a test with the moderate overlap barrier but hitting it at a small overlap (Specifically 25%)
I think they could update the small overlap by putting the barrier at a 25 degree angle, instead of a 0 degree angle. As well as a dummy in the rear seat.
They could also test the airbag deployment. Since the crash I was once in, the airbag felt like it was halfway down when I was striking it.
@@ClownyGamer what i think they should do is add a rear passenger in the right seat, to see if it also applies to other occupants. Like the Driver Side Small Overlap and the Passenger Side Small Overlap!!
@@Mabeylater293 Updated small overlap front (with rear passengers) is my guess for a future test, though the rear end crash test may be sooner.
I would think cars should probably limit speeds to 10 mph unless the driver is belted, but I've heard that was very unpopular amongst the population we rely on for organ donations.
The semi test is hard because lots of semis themselves have mediocre crash gates that crumble and decapitate drivers. So testing on a good semi wouldn't necessarily give good real world results.
High speed rear-end crash and they should also use dummies in the third row for various tests!
Thats actually really impressive that Toyota was able to make structural changes to improve its crash worthiness while still being in the same generation and only a year, a vast majority of makes wont bother until they do a full redesign.
They really need to put rear seatbelt tensioners in more vehicles.
GM has had years to understand and design headlights to pass the IIHS test, so there's no excuse for them releasing a new vehicle that earns a Poor headlight rating. It seems to me that GM, for whatever reason, does not see any value in trying to earn an award from IIHS. Not sure if they have a grudge because of their performance on the moderate overlap tests in the 90s or what, but clearly they don't care.
I totally agree w you. When was the last time a GM vehicle earned a TSP+ rating? We all the resources GM, it shouldn’t be hard to produce a top crash performing car…it’s like they intentionally decided to design a bad car.
Either they don't care, or they simply can't engineer properly, at a reasonable cost.
No one is buying that Cadillac anyway.
Does a given vehicle meet federal minimum safety requirements? If so, that's all that matters to most people---myself included. I recently purchased a 2025 Toyota Camry SE for my wife and did not consider its safety rating. Moreover, I find most of its driver assistance systems quite annoying.
@@LARSENBISQUITS: Conversely, it's the best-selling midsize luxury electric crossover in the United States and Cadillac's best-selling model.
A few years ago I bought my wife an Outback for her 50th birthday. I chose the Outback because of its Safety, Reliability and the Symmetrical AWD system that is the Best AWD system on Earth.
When we bought our (my) 23 Toyota TRD Off Road, double cab, 6’ bed was because it’s ok in Safety but is the most Reliable midsize pickup ever.
My wife is younger than I am, so when her Outback wears out, we’ll replace it with another one, or possibly a Forester. Her next vehicle will be her last one and my Tacoma will be my Last pickup.
Love all your research.
How come we don’t have center airbags in the US like they do in other markets? They seems to be very effective in the Euro NCAP crashes.
Interesting, tell me more. Is it more useful in small cars or do big ones have it too?
We do with some models in the USA. It's just that Europe's standards are a bit higher, so they offer those airbags there and not here. It's completely up to the manufacturer.
Please include in the ratings rear crashes
Crazy that they don't test this. Probably because the automakers would fail horrifically.
Thank you, IIHS! And happy new year!
Do y’all have plans to evaluate the large SUV class again sometime in the near future? It would be nice to see y’all evaluate the updated 2025 Chevrolet Suburban and Tahoe to see if they have made structural changes to improve small overlap protection on the passenger side as well as better restraints in the rear seat to improve rear passenger protection in the updated moderate overlap crash test.
Y’all should also reevaluate their headlight performance to see if their updated headlights have addressed the headlight deficiencies of the prior 2023-2024 models.
And y’all should also test the Toyota Sequoia, Nissan Armada, and new Ford Expedition whenever y’all get the chance to test those vehicles as well.
Would make a lot of sense. Would love to see a Mercedes GLS and BMW X7 reviewed too (if these are only large-ish SUVs) and Audi Q7 updated
I recently had a suburban rental and we loved it. I was seriously considering getting one until I saw the poor crash results. I doubt GM made any crash improvements w the refresh. Otherwise they would have touted it and urged IIHS to do a retest. With GM horrible record on poor crash worthy vehicles, I doubt they spent any resources in improving the crash performance.
To add…I’m interested to see how GMs 9,000 lb EVs such as the Silverado ev would perform.
@@Wasabi9111 same... I want to see them do it to the Hummer EV, Escalade iQ, Silverado EV, Equinox EV, MERCEDES Benz S Class, Mercedes Benz G Class, Rolls Royce, Lamborghini vehicles, Porsche, and all these other luxury brands ..
You know that body engineering has reached its limits when cars miss being Top Safety Pick for things like headlights and automatic braking.
I don't know how trucks like the F150 can get the ratings they do. This class of trucks poses a substantial risk to smaller vehicles, motor & regular cyclists, as well as pedestrians. It's hypocrisy that they can get even a marginal rating. Why doesn't the IIHS penalise this class of vehicle?
In addition, these commercial vehicles are used extensively for domestic and leisure use. Come on IIHS, you know these trucks will kill people in small cars that have your highest rating. It is time to act and not just to write articles.
"I would think this [head lights] is something that General Motors could change quickly for this Cadillac [Lyriq] ..." Yes, if it is part of their 5 year plan. Meanwhile, Toyota fixed a major safety concern in the Tundra crew cab in one year without a full redesign. IIHS should give awards for the most responsive manufacturer.
Would you put dummies to the center seats of the 2nd and the 3rd rows? Some vehicles don’t have real center headrests simply because there is no FMVSS requirement for it.
When will you guys be testing the Acura RDX in the updated moderate overlap test?
Awesome video thank you!
A future factor to start look for is how modern lights from oncoming vehicles blinds drivers when its dark!
Maybe make matrix headlights mandatory (if that would help?!)
They already do that and it was specifically mentioned in the video. That's the reason the Cadillac Lyriq didn't get a top safety pick rating. Listen next time before posting.
@ Having a bad day?
Yay🎉🎉🎉 Toyota!
Happy new year 🥳!
Subaru! Not surprised, I like how they have that amazing brand in the background as they are talking. Well done and congratulations Subaru. 🏆🏆 No wonder they are the number one brand rated for sooooo much in consumers report
Why are there no crash tests for the Porsche Cayman and Porsche Panamera? Can they be carried out?
Pls crash test the cybertruck
In the side impact test, what can affect the forces on the pelvis other than the structure?
There should be dummies in the third row in applicable vehicles and a high speed rear crash test also.
Please review the all new traverse and super cruise
How come neither the 2024 Land Cruiser or Lexus GX 550 were testes in 2024?
There should be a “fatality score” for high speed test.
❤️🔥IIHS❤️🔥
Why not put dummies in all seats like Euro NCAP, including child seats? Also, what about short, tall, heavy and light people?
I'd love to see IIHS test the 3rd row in suvs and minivans
The chart in the link shows the Volvo XC60 as Good and Acceptable in the updated Moderate Overlap test. Possibly the G should be the original test and the A the updated test. Copywriter put Updated under both ratings.
We need Cybertruck.
Elon will OWN GM in the near future!
There’s one in the Vegas Trump Tower.
Oh snap
Headlight of new vehicles should have a maximum height allowance no matter how big or tall they are. Headlight location height should not exceed the height of the tallest sedan headlight location! Cause no matter how good headlight designs are, if they are located at the height of a sedan driver head, it will blind them drivers at night!
Make cars safe again!
Again? Make cars safer.
They never have been safer
Making the test harder so cars fail do not mean cars are getting less safe. It means they have to hit a higher bar than in years past.
And more reliable, and better looking
Try having a head-on collision in a Ford Focus, with a F150 and ask the Focus driver how they feel about safety. Oh yea, dead people can't talk.
The safety of rear passengers has been neglected for far too long and needs to be improved a lot. Why are there no airbags on the back of the front seats and why are rear side airbags still an option or unavailable on a lot of vehicles?
I have contacted the IIHS numerous times about the issue with these LED headlights and nothing has been done. 90 percent of these SUVs and Pick up trucks are blinging oncoming traffic!!
Why are these big vehicles even allowed!!!!!!!
Addressing glare is one of the goals of our test program, and we are seeing improvements. For the 2023 model year, only 6% of the headlight systems tested had excessive glare, compared with 20% in the 2017 model year. We expect to see more improvement. The introduction of adaptive driving beam headlights in the U.S. will help as well, but for now there are only a couple of models with that technology.
I wish more affordable basic cars scored higher. I'm looking at you ancient Toyota Corolla.
Bring back 5 mph bumpers.
Lot of chevy's in that list. : l
Please add an evaluation of the tailllights and penalize for red turn signals and any combination lamps. Tailllights need to have separate running, brake and amber turn signals. Tailllights on most USDM vehicles are very poor and I don't understand why. Is it ignorance, incompetence or an affinity for less effective and ambiguous taillights?
Simple. Lack of regulation. USDM vehicles are not required to have separate amber colored turn signals.
There should be ratings for glare on hills, oh and handling grade so we know if the car will perform well in emergency. dont be too concerned about all this safety rubbish when we can look to avoid crashes in the first place!
Kudos to Toyota for improving the Tundra for 2025. Hopefully no one bought a 2023 or 2024.
importante
그래도 대형 럭셔리중 픽플러스 받은차는 현대뿐이자나 한잔해
way you faking speed on crash test ????????
What the hell @IIHS WHY HAVEN'T YOU TESTED THE NEW GEN KIA NIRO ....