BMW Baur E21 323i TC Goes for a Drive
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
- Its not a convertible, its not a Taga, its the BMW E21 Baur 323i Top cabriolet! This is the open top BMW 3 series from before BMW built asoft top!
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1980 - when BMW was something really special compared to an ‘ordinary’ car.
Love the styling. A timeless classic
The way Baur did this car reminds me of late 80's Lada Samara conversion (although some of them were classic convertibles).
The E21 has the be my favourite 3 series shape of all. The interior has aged quite well to, I know it's the BMW black but still, the shape and style... Great trip down memory lane, ta 👍
I remember one of those sat wrecked on my council estate back in the 80s. It sat alongside many other (desirable now) cars, that ended up as kids play-things after the older kids had run them out of petrol. I remember Jaguar/Daimlers, Porsche 924/944, countless BMWs and XR RS Fords. Ironically it’s probably where I got my love of cars.
Sounds like a rough area were all those cars stolen and dumped?
@@pauldavies6037 Yep. Back then your Ford key would open and start 25% of Ford cars, and other manufacturers weren’t any better. Thankfully security has improved 10-fold today
@@James-oo1yq Yep the good old Escorts and Cortinas dont forget the coat hanger to open the doors through the window frame LOL
Had 3 E21s, a 320 carb auto sleeper which was super smooth and relaxing and two 323i's which were rapid and sweet. They felt solid and vault like in construction and easy to work on. Never had a Baur but would love one! The green round button is the rear fog lamp switch I believe. At night time the dash cluster has a soft orange down lit over glow, not back lit like modern cars and gave the impression of being in a plane cockpit and was quite advanced for the period. Miss that rasp of the twin exhausts, located either side Left and Right at the rear.
That’s lovely. I’ve always adored the 2002 Baur (owned one in 83-4), and only recently grown into liking the early 3-series. What a great daily it would be.
Very nice!
Only got this generation Of BMW as the 320i. Controls are very familiar.
Nice review.
Wasn't this shown at the NEC?
The 323i was definitely the engine to have, but the E21 ,s handling on the limit was a bit scary and it had to be treated with respect. It was criticized by the motoring press, but many people ended up in a hedge . The interior is very similar to my 1980 E12 , dash , door bins and materials. Even the electric window switches are the same. Nice review Matt ,love your work.
I had an E21 316 that ended up in a ravine after skidding in the snow on the Snakes Pass in Derbyshire.
I don't think I've ever seen one of these before. Never been a BMW person to be honest, but I really quite like this. It would make a perfect weekend car, and a glorious way of going for a picnic.
I had forgotten about this variant of the E21.
Both inside and out it certainly does look to be a car conceived in the 70's but very much designed for the 80's. The upholstery looks very good, in fact I remember your E30 review where you mentioned the upholstery being a weak point point with regard to resisting wear.
Great review as always Matt.
What a wonderful example. I have been lucky enough to see many of these and the E30 version.
I would love to look around a 4 door E36 baur .That is truly a unique looking e36
Awesome car...I actually had the saloon version with the same engine. Well...mine was a bit shot really. It used as much oil as it did Petrol... but I did feel kind of special in it...
Thanks for your - as always - enthusiastic review of this rare car!
Another one to add to my dreamgarage :)
Do love the early 3 series … would like to have seen you put the roof up but still a good car to test 👍
This car is amazing. I like the Baur more than the factory open top (E30). 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
From an era when style was appreciated more than an M badge. I miss those days.
Such a beautiful BMW. Hey here is an idea you need to get a BMW for the furious fleet. That would be interesting
Got to be an E30 or E36 - the best ones IMO. Though the E46 is ok as well.
@@dannyhtheretrogamingmaster9548 a lot of people snob the E36. E46 has nicer materials but yeah I prefer E36/E30
@freepie, BMW V8s are largelly terrible...why lol
I just wish E21’s were still at reasonable money. Dealers and sellers just rub their hands with these now.
Looked like a new car, amazing.
Not long ago, I have seen a 315 (!) Baur for sale. I was even thinking about buying it but it has bad fuel economy and it was also far from where I live. The price was good though for €7500,- and it looked in very good nick. (Obviously you would still have to see about that in person).
Matt, this shark nosed E21 are so distinctive and really the truly original 3 series. Basic inside but well built and rare... I'd love one!
Is the rag top easy to put up and down, you didn't demonstate, would have been nice to see it up. Glass or plastic rear window?
I had a Lancia Beta Spider in 1988. Very similar. Both cars are gorgeous.
I had a 318 version same colour loved that car I had its complete history from new. It was purchased in German as rhd by a British solder based there, sadly a divorce forced me to sell it
Oh man! If only you'd kept it! The 4 pots were indestructible.
That has to be VIN 5195584. For some reason, only the 316, 320/6 and 323i where offered in the UK. Only one RHD 318i was produced. Indeed in polaris-metallic, black roof, blue interior. Sold new by Kohl in Aachen.
@@325iXBaur Yes mine was polaris-metallic, black roof, blue interior RHD but a 318 not 318i
Hi Matt.One more thing if I may add,Baur also ''laid'' their hands on Opel Kadett C,late production,called ''aero''.Another,much more rarer version of a Baur type conversion,is the Centaur,a Manta b pre facelift converted by a couch builder called Magraw Engineering.The design was done by another company,called Crayford.Funny era the eighties....great presentation,as always.
What a pretty little car. The dash in these looks so much nicer without a/c. We had a ‘78 320is with a 3 spoke M1 steering wheel and Recaro seats when I was a kid. Different slide levers for the heater and an analog clock in the center of the dash/ The a/c had stand alone controls low in the center stack and the radio was stood on end in the front of the a/c controls. Awkward to get at. The a/c was surprisingly effective though and we lived in Florida. Dark tinted windows helped. I loved that car
I love old BMWs. The styling is so elegant and restrained, there isn't a line out of place. Totally opposite to the current trend in car styling.
Some don't like the Baur roof, but I think it's very pretty.
As far as styling goes, for me BMW was in top shape in the 1970s. They never got the balance between stylish & dynamic looking as good as with the E21, E12, E24 & E23 anymore in any of their successors - that Bracq-touch was quite something. Baur also used to produce the BMW M1 if I remember correctly. The reason why most Baur-E21s will have been 323i's is likely because even as a 316, the top cabriolet was expensive. If you were to spend that kind of money, better to straight away go for the best version. Top review!
Sweet, although with the transmission whine something akin to an old Moggy Minor! 😆😇🙏
Ohh I love these. One of those cars that I should have picked up when they were cheaper.
My dad owned 1 of 3 of these cars that were in the UK until last year. Loved the styling, but had its own problems and needed someone to spend some money on it.
I remember the 323i was the pinnacle of the E21 era, before all the souped up m3/4 Evolution, CSL, GTS , competition packs.
Wow, back in the day, before everyone designed world bumper cars, the Euro 1970's BMWs and MB's, etc., etc. looked SO much better than what we got in the US. Sometimes I forget how tidy & tight the designs actually were.
Way back when one of Dad's friends had a 2002. Probably new, since this would have been early 70s. Even as a kid I remember Dad being very impressed with it and we were on several demo drives. Of course at the time, we had a station wagon and a big company Ford, so nothing like that was in the cards (nor, since they were pretty expensive for what was essentially a very small - albeit practical - car, would this be an option anytime soon. And yet ... eventually Dad did well and while the first German was a practical but boring 300D, its replacement was a 535i. 35 years later there's still a BMW in his garage ... and two in my driveway. Brother got into them for awhile too.
I think Matt needs a classic BMW now.
Great video. Never knew that existed!
The ultimate E21 with the twin headlamps and the 323i model. Definitely a defining model.
BMW certainly missed a trick not offering a convertible version and I can honestly say I have never seen a Baur in the flesh.
As for four doors and an estate I don't believe that the time was right in the late 70s because the mainstream manufacturers had those segments well established with some very well equipped and established products in place that were much better value than a very expensive small BMW.
Saloons ; Vauxhall CAVALIER GLS, Ford Cortina GXL, Triumph Dolomite,
Estates : Humber Sceptre, Ford Granada, Peugeot 504, Citroën GS and CX, Ford Cortina ,
When BMWs were so good.
A full walk around and inside engine bay, wheels and inside boot view would've been nice.
Crikey, that is nice. I was never a huge fan of these growing up but seeing one now, well...
That is one lovely car, wow, stunning and very rare!!
Great video ,thanks for posting.Back in the day certain unscrupulous car traders would de badge these and pass them off for factory convertibles to unwary victims
What they in some way were. It's a factory-arranged conversion. In 1976, both Karmann and Baur where asked to come up with a proposal for a comvertible. The Baur came out best (and Karmann made a small mistake in strengthening the firewall, which made it impossible to fit a 6 cilinder).
Nice motor.
Is this is the one at the practical classis auction NEC... 2 weeks ago ?
I can't believe how green and alive everything is where you live. We still have 2 feet of snow on the ground. Yikes! Lol
Beautiful car.
9:07 honk! honk! (Twintone nice!)
I’m sure I once read somewhere that a convertible was designed to be roofless from the drawing board. A cabriolet is a roofless conversion of an existing saloon or coupe. Or maybe I imagined it 🤷🏻♂️
Beautiful car! 🙂
What a beautiful car.
My garage still has a couple of loan cars from this era 3 series (not a Top Cab though) and they are still an enjoyable drive
I'm a pre-op transexual. I'm 67 year old, 5'10" and very slender indeed. I live in a charming little flat overlooking a quite well known high street. What are you up to this evening? I have a bottle of red that really needs two to drink it x
Hey Matt, could you do a video about Škoda Superb someday ? Anyways, nice video
Sounds like a Morris Minor gearbox !
Beautiful car does anyone know what it sold for?
What a lovely BMW, which is more than can be said for modern BMWs.
Looking through the merch list above, why not include the postage cost in the advertised price and UK postage included, people think they are getting something free and a bargain.
kylie in "I should be so lucky" video was ferried around in a Baur cabriolet
Lovely car 🚘🚙🚗👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
It must really be a nice gear change. You seem to swap cogs in every scene. :-0
I have a soft spot for the 3 series
Oh my god.... I'm in LOVE 😍
So thats why the weather changed.... Lol 🤣🤣 think this is first time I have seen one of these and I do prefer the earlier 3 series to BMW's of today.
Are there any updates on the W123?
waiting on a repair panel and a welder
Baur E21 Cab in 323i RHD has to be a rare beast most of them were either 316's or 318i's. I should point out though that in Europe Cabriolet is the common name used for convertibles including by BMW. Bower is the correct way to say it.
Forgot to add 323i E21's were quite tail happy, More than a few found the ditch 😂
You could not have been more wrong here. Out of 890 RHD Baurs, 281 where 320/6 and 499 323i.
Nicew car but not that model for me thanks. I alwyas thought it looked very kit car. 323i two door for me please.
Fiat had 5-speed gearboxes as standard on their 131 / 132 models through the 70s, also Rover SD1 and Triumph TR7s (at least as an option), so not just exotics…
Sounds a bit ropey for a six cylinder
The transmission sounds like it's got a big problem!
Sounds like layshaft bearings, nut whatever it is, it doesn't sound well
Ok dude!! I'll get the stuff!!
I’ll get the roof off!
2:25 think you may need some fuel in the tank 😂
Nah, I think the gauge is faulty, most BMW's come with a permanently lit orange low fuel warning light as standard.
I'm getting a group of girls drinking champers from an episode of Bergerac vibe from this car.
Sounds like a truck, usually a BMW six sounds lovely to me
So much vent-age. But why so many?
4,595 built is a reasonable number really
world wide its tiny over, over 4 years its only 100 a month
They actually made 4598...the productionbooks list three cars more then the salesbooks.
@@325iXBaur solid gold trivia!
For over £26'000 I would hope its a good example.
peanuts, they should ask more
Never a fan of the Bauer - that roll over hoop does divide opinions though
Ah I’m so late to the party ... 53rd comment! WAHOOOOO
The Baur was not a great idea by Bmw. You wonder what the point of it was.
Ehm, the possibility of convertibles being banned (safety) and development costs of a real convertible. Allthough not a cheap conversion, the Karmann-prototype would have cost twice the price.
@@325iXBaur Fair play--a very good answer there.
1st
Well at least the clock was right at my time of viewing, 😉 can’t see what all the BMW fuss is about, I have owned 30 cars & never wanted a beemer, that’ll get the comments coming 😛
Same here. Find the styling boring. Kidney grill is a terrible design 😂
Der Motor ist verschlissen! Massiv laute Kolbenkipper! Ein M20B23 Problem.
To review this you should have put on a false Rastafarian wig & multi coloured hat
why
Terrible camera action yet again
Oh dear, looks terrible, sounds like a bus lolol.
Sounds bloody awful.