So here are some tips from the comments: - Use Mika EX at 1:54 and 5 cost to stop her from moving. This will prevent Mika from getting getting hit by Wakamo skill, but sacrifice a bit of Himari buff. - You can also use Hifumi EX earlier and don't need to wait at 1:42 like me this will give you more cost for the shotgun attack later. This works if you already stop Mika from moving at 1:54 by using her EX skill. - Use Ako instead of Utaha at 3:28, at 10 cost and before Neru to get a bit more dmg in phase 2. - You can use Serina + S.Ayane instead of Serina + Hanae, just rotate back to Serina as fast as possible to get the AA guns up before the missiles hit your base. You can start with S.Hoshino and use Serina on the AA guns at 10 cost when the Hovercraft retreats.
Arona blessed me with C.Hare and you blessed me with this video. This is my first and probably the only torment clear I could do for another while. Very comfy once I get a hang of it. Though, I switched for S.Ayane and Kokonut in 3rd team and she auto heal AA guns like no tomorrow with all those hits XD
Yeah, S.Ayane is faster for team 3. Once you manage to stop Mika from moving in phase 1 and Wakamo can't hit her, it's just take less then 10 mins to do a daily Torment run.
I don't think the Hifumi position matters too much, you just need to put it near Eimi, then use Mika EX to stop her from moving at 1:54, so she doesn't get hit by Wakamo. That way you can just use Hifumi EX early at 1:42, which gives you extra time and cost to bait the shotgun attack later.
@@RSRainstorm the problem for me was i couldn't figure out where to drop peroro cause every guide i saw did it differently and my mika keeps taking the shots, following your guide made my phase 1 a lot more consistent
thanks for the guide was able to try hard insane with what i have not everyone is on max level and swapped C.Hare with Ui the timings are quite strict on Phase 1 😂 but was able to finish with just two teams
Good stuff. But personally I think it's better to use Ako before Neru on Phase 2. Ako's buff is long enough to last until Mika, and that way the debuffs from Neru's volley won't have time to go away.
Her basic activates at 3:29 for ingame time. If Utaha is still summoning the turret with her EX skill (which take a few seconds), her basic skill will be delayed.
@@surrialguyhere it used just to cycle, as you don't want to press anything right away, but you have extra cost to do something while you wait for Wakamo to retreat... Utaha's EX is useful, as it adds to attack count, helping with the raid's mechanic, but it's not worth rotating through every time in this team
You can try it I guess, you just need enough HP on Peroro sama so Wakamo doesn't hit Mika too much. Using 4 star Neru means you may need team 4, or use Kokona + S.Ayane on team 3.
For the shotgun, I am not really sure, I think you need to put it close to Eimi so the shots don't ricochet to Mika? Which multi hits are you having problem with?
I think the consistent way to do it is to use Mika at 1:54 so she doesn't step forward, which sacrifice a bit of Himari buff. As for the shotgun, you need to summon Peroro sama fast enough.
No NY.Fuuka on Torment is hard. You'll need 2 more tanks if you can't finish team 1 in 1 team. I guess you can combine this team 1 ruclips.net/video/gYYsH8Pufps/видео.html And this team from this video, but it's gonna be more expensive and I don't think Tsukyo + Mika can survive ruclips.net/video/xkSulWXEFFg/видео.html
You have a lot of replacements there, just try everything and anything that you think might work, bring healers to stay alive and keep the turrets going, and also something to attack with, students with good Attack speed or good ST damage are preferred You can run team 4 if you have enough healers and lack damage
You can just go to schale.gg and sort for students that deals a lot of hits with there normal attack/basic skill I made a video on in back then ruclips.net/video/r4kXxGtGIKQ/видео.htmlsi=JOcWzrY3Z0vu2koe&t=22 Try not to bring students with heavy armor. You need to pick someone with good buff/ EX dmg as well since you need to use 4 students skills to cycle back to Serina heal.
If you're talking about the EX after 1:54 it targets whoever is closer to Eimi, which is somehow Mika? Use Mika EX at 1:54 and 5 cost to stop her from moving.
It's absurd now her health difference in hardcore and then extreme🙃 but yeah, will settle for gold... and i assumed torment requires like 3 squads to finish?
I did previous torment with ue30 Neru, the real dmg dealers in that team are Maki/Utaha or Meru or Mika if you can afford tl borrow them. Don't get me wrong tho, Neru does really good dmg but ue40-50 is not essential to clear, just a lot easier.
Actually thinking to attempt this. Is Fubuki EU40 okay for first team? And you mentioned that you can replace any of the strikers for S Hoshino for the 3rd team. I didnt really grind Nonomi much (only EU30). So would it be fine to replace Nonomi with S Hoshino?
UE40 Fubuki is perfectly fine. About S. Hoshino on the 3rd team... the most replaceable unit should be Mutsuki, since her damage is red, but UE30 Nonomi should be good enough since she's there to provide hits first and foremost.
@@surrialguy Well the issue with using both S.Hoshino and Nonomi is sometimes you'll have to use 1 of their skills to cycle. I guess you can use Nonomi EX to clear the coming missiles I guess.
@@surrialguy I ran with S.Ayane + Serina first, but the base explodes, maybe it's bad luck? And if I use Hanae + Serina every cycle, the AA guns are up 100% of the time, but my team clear with only 1 second to spare. That's the run with S.Hoshino + Nonomi. So yeah, you can improvise to make your run easier.
Yeah you can, but improvise the rotations I guess, since you can go faster in Insane. I did one back then but with Junko, not Mika ruclips.net/video/xkSulWXEFFg/видео.htmlsi=NdkGZ5hk2EI68PT3&t=158
not only you can, but you should I use that and its FAR better than clown Kayoko clear. And more consistent. Last time I was platinium using it aswell.
It's more of a feeling of "Damn, C.Hare is used again, now I can't copy homework XD" You'll get that feeling roughly once every month. For this month that will be 3 times, though JFD are kinda optional. If you don't mind building your own teams or your server is not that competitive, then you can do fine without her.
@@C4nn1b4l91 Meru/Miyu but you need to build them since they scale of their attack stats. Or Ui I guess? But you'll have more HP to clean up. So use S.Ayane + Serina on team 3 and only heal the AA guns when the missiles are in the gun's range.
she is like Himari, it's really nice if you have her and she is useful whenever you can use her. If you dont have her, you can still make do without the ATK buff but would need to compensate (either by more teams, different strats, workarounds)
@LiliaIxalia True, I would probably have to throw more bodies. Fortunately 2nd phase wakamo doesn't deal a lot of damage so it's pretty easy to just make multiple teams as long as I have healers left (like O. Nodoka) to heal up the turrets.
![[Blue Archive] Wakamo/Hovercraft S2 Torment (Field) - 3 Team Clear - 39,184,240 - Meru Borrow](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Wwq457h7gtI/mqdefault.jpg)
So here are some tips from the comments:
- Use Mika EX at 1:54 and 5 cost to stop her from moving. This will prevent Mika from getting getting hit by Wakamo skill, but sacrifice a bit of Himari buff.
- You can also use Hifumi EX earlier and don't need to wait at 1:42 like me this will give you more cost for the shotgun attack later. This works if you already stop Mika from moving at 1:54 by using her EX skill.
- Use Ako instead of Utaha at 3:28, at 10 cost and before Neru to get a bit more dmg in phase 2.
- You can use Serina + S.Ayane instead of Serina + Hanae, just rotate back to Serina as fast as possible to get the AA guns up before the missiles hit your base. You can start with S.Hoshino and use Serina on the AA guns at 10 cost when the Hovercraft retreats.
Arona blessed me with C.Hare and you blessed me with this video. This is my first and probably the only torment clear I could do for another while. Very comfy once I get a hang of it. Though, I switched for S.Ayane and Kokonut in 3rd team and she auto heal AA guns like no tomorrow with all those hits XD
Yeah, S.Ayane is faster for team 3. Once you manage to stop Mika from moving in phase 1 and Wakamo can't hit her, it's just take less then 10 mins to do a daily Torment run.
Close calls with the healing on that 3rd team there.
Yeah it's because I found out that if I use both Serina + Hanae heal, the AA guns will always be active, making it too easy XD
Never thought that Meru would save my ass one day
Why? XD
I spent a long time trying to figure out the positioning for hifumi skill on my own, you made it a whole lot easier lol
I don't think the Hifumi position matters too much, you just need to put it near Eimi, then use Mika EX to stop her from moving at 1:54, so she doesn't get hit by Wakamo. That way you can just use Hifumi EX early at 1:42, which gives you extra time and cost to bait the shotgun attack later.
@@RSRainstorm the problem for me was i couldn't figure out where to drop peroro cause every guide i saw did it differently and my mika keeps taking the shots, following your guide made my phase 1 a lot more consistent
1:40 If you aim Hifumi Ex as soon as her range reach the flower on the right (on the ground), it'll save you a little more cost for Mika combo
Yeah if you use Mika EX to stop her from moving at 1:54, you can just use Hifumi EX early.
For team 3 you can also use this team:
Meru or junko+kokona+s.hoshino+pina/ s.ayane+s.shiroko.
This team can deal 10-12 Million damage!.
Yeah that works too, I just want to see how far I can go with free students on team 3 XD
This team is wild 😂 Team 3 cleared in just 2:22
Might be the comfiest clear for insane lmao
thanks for the guide
was able to try hard insane with what i have
not everyone is on max level and swapped C.Hare with Ui
the timings are quite strict on Phase 1 😂
but was able to finish with just two teams
How long did it take to do the run? XD
@@RSRainstorm around 4 hours worth of practice runs
since i played team 1 till time out the whole run took close to the final 15 seconds i think
@@gespy796 Wow that's a lot.
@@RSRainstorm took a while to get the right places to drop Peroro😆
Good stuff. But personally I think it's better to use Ako before Neru on Phase 2. Ako's buff is long enough to last until Mika, and that way the debuffs from Neru's volley won't have time to go away.
Yeah, that is indeed faster. I didn't think of that, thanks.
I did this rotation, I got the boss down to 30 bars after team 2 😂
Why use Utaha EX at 3:15? What does her EX have to do with her Basic triggering?
Her basic activates at 3:29 for ingame time. If Utaha is still summoning the turret with her EX skill (which take a few seconds), her basic skill will be delayed.
@RSRainstorm Okay, but why do you have to use Utaha's EX at all? Does it allow the cycle to synchronize with Maki's basic or something?
@@surrialguyhere it used just to cycle, as you don't want to press anything right away, but you have extra cost to do something while you wait for Wakamo to retreat... Utaha's EX is useful, as it adds to attack count, helping with the raid's mechanic, but it's not worth rotating through every time in this team
i think my Neru is only UE40 but I think should manage to do it when I did mock battle once. Hope to do it again.
Mine is UE30 with T2 equip, so assuming your mika and ako are maxed you should be able to 2 team the boat
Good luck, you can use S.Ayane instead of Hanae on team 3 for more dmg.
@@RSRainstorm thats what I did. Eventually I cleared it.
Wondering if I can manage this but my Hifumi's only 3 star and my Neru's only 4 stars.
You can try it I guess, you just need enough HP on Peroro sama so Wakamo doesn't hit Mika too much. Using 4 star Neru means you may need team 4, or use Kokona + S.Ayane on team 3.
i have skill issue. cant seem to do p1, having problem using peroro to block the multi hit and the shotgun
For the shotgun, I am not really sure, I think you need to put it close to Eimi so the shots don't ricochet to Mika? Which multi hits are you having problem with?
I think the consistent way to do it is to use Mika at 1:54 so she doesn't step forward, which sacrifice a bit of Himari buff. As for the shotgun, you need to summon Peroro sama fast enough.
Only missing NY fuuka. Any replacement ideas?
No NY.Fuuka on Torment is hard. You'll need 2 more tanks if you can't finish team 1 in 1 team. I guess you can combine this team 1 ruclips.net/video/gYYsH8Pufps/видео.html
And this team from this video, but it's gonna be more expensive and I don't think Tsukyo + Mika can survive ruclips.net/video/xkSulWXEFFg/видео.html
is there a trick to that shotgun attack..? maybe its spot or student in range or something..?
it never fails to target eimi.
For the one at 2:04, you need to have enough cost to use Hifumi EX, it targets the closest student.
What replacements do you think could work on team 3? The only students I have built up in that team are Mutsuki and Serina😢
You have a lot of replacements there, just try everything and anything that you think might work, bring healers to stay alive and keep the turrets going, and also something to attack with, students with good Attack speed or good ST damage are preferred
You can run team 4 if you have enough healers and lack damage
You can just go to schale.gg and sort for students that deals a lot of hits with there normal attack/basic skill I made a video on in back then ruclips.net/video/r4kXxGtGIKQ/видео.htmlsi=JOcWzrY3Z0vu2koe&t=22
Try not to bring students with heavy armor. You need to pick someone with good buff/ EX dmg as well since you need to use 4 students skills to cycle back to Serina heal.
why her first ex always hit my mika, not the peroro?!
If you're talking about the EX after 1:54 it targets whoever is closer to Eimi, which is somehow Mika? Use Mika EX at 1:54 and 5 cost to stop her from moving.
It's absurd now her health difference in hardcore and then extreme🙃 but yeah, will settle for gold... and i assumed torment requires like 3 squads to finish?
Well you only need 2 squads if you have Meru.
Does Neru need to be ue40 or above?
That I am not sure since mine is ue50. If you use S.Hoshino + S.Ayane in team 3 then they can make up the difference in dmg easily I think?
I did previous torment with ue30 Neru, the real dmg dealers in that team are Maki/Utaha or Meru or Mika if you can afford tl borrow them. Don't get me wrong tho, Neru does really good dmg but ue40-50 is not essential to clear, just a lot easier.
Actually thinking to attempt this.
Is Fubuki EU40 okay for first team? And you mentioned that you can replace any of the strikers for S Hoshino for the 3rd team. I didnt really grind Nonomi much (only EU30). So would it be fine to replace Nonomi with S Hoshino?
Yeah Fubuki EU40 is okay. When I used S.Hoshino instead of Mutsuki, the clear time is similar, so yeah, you can probably replace Nonomi.
UE40 Fubuki is perfectly fine. About S. Hoshino on the 3rd team... the most replaceable unit should be Mutsuki, since her damage is red, but UE30 Nonomi should be good enough since she's there to provide hits first and foremost.
@@surrialguy Well the issue with using both S.Hoshino and Nonomi is sometimes you'll have to use 1 of their skills to cycle. I guess you can use Nonomi EX to clear the coming missiles I guess.
@@RSRainstorm Do you? Can't you just use Hanae every now and then? Or maybe swap her for S. Ayane?
@@surrialguy I ran with S.Ayane + Serina first, but the base explodes, maybe it's bad luck? And if I use Hanae + Serina every cycle, the AA guns are up 100% of the time, but my team clear with only 1 second to spare. That's the run with S.Hoshino + Nonomi. So yeah, you can improvise to make your run easier.
Can i use the first team for Insane? I dont have the sanity to mald for Kayoko basic.
Yeah you can, but improvise the rotations I guess, since you can go faster in Insane. I did one back then but with Junko, not Mika ruclips.net/video/xkSulWXEFFg/видео.htmlsi=NdkGZ5hk2EI68PT3&t=158
Of course. Anything that works on torment also works on insane.
not only you can, but you should I use that and its FAR better than clown Kayoko clear. And more consistent. Last time I was platinium using it aswell.
When I did my torment run, I used Fubuki instead of Kayoko.
why u upgrade himari's watch?
11% hp bonus, and because he has materials to spare
How mandatory would you say c.hare is going to be for all the upcoming raids?
It's more of a feeling of "Damn, C.Hare is used again, now I can't copy homework XD" You'll get that feeling roughly once every month. For this month that will be 3 times, though JFD are kinda optional. If you don't mind building your own teams or your server is not that competitive, then you can do fine without her.
@@RSRainstorm can you recommend someone to replace her? kinda sad that the assist always go for second Mika :C
@@C4nn1b4l91 Meru/Miyu but you need to build them since they scale of their attack stats. Or Ui I guess? But you'll have more HP to clean up. So use S.Ayane + Serina on team 3 and only heal the AA guns when the missiles are in the gun's range.
she is like Himari, it's really nice if you have her and she is useful whenever you can use her. If you dont have her, you can still make do without the ATK buff but would need to compensate (either by more teams, different strats, workarounds)
I don't have C. Hare, think replacing her with Ui is good enough for faster cycle for team 2?
Dunno about that. C.Hare is used to boost Mika, so even if you replace her with someone else, your 3rd team will be really hard.
@LiliaIxalia True, I would probably have to throw more bodies. Fortunately 2nd phase wakamo doesn't deal a lot of damage so it's pretty easy to just make multiple teams as long as I have healers left (like O. Nodoka) to heal up the turrets.
I personally used S Hoshino, Neru, Meru, and Maki, and then Utaha and Ako
Why would you bring fubuki in the first place?
she has cc
She cas cc on basic skill. For full the cc bar
Would Himufi 3* work?
You can try it I guess, you just need enough HP on Peroro sama so Wakamo doesn't hit Mika too much.
Not enough, i can attest to that. Peroro dies too soon due to autoattacks. At least EW40, EX5 + Enhanced skill 7, Maxed Shoes and Hairpin
Idk man still lazy to do torment
Just highscore clear insane is enough to stay in platinum for this raid, since I see a few players struggle with it.