They forgot a lot of stuff i think tho i appreciate your sentiment. They forogt abojt the longnight and why there must always be a stark in winterfell. They forgot about the cotf and the longnight. They forgot about sacraficing bastards at the black gate. They forgot a lot.... But they certainly remember some
The laws of hospitality are a form of social obligation and self-policing these were created to limit and guide how honor and feuds could be avenged. The book demonstrated how the breaking of guest rights during the Red Wedding, destroyed many people's confidence high and low that anyone honoring traditions of guest rights, and loyalty to alliances would be safe themselves. People began to avenge and attack each other in an " I'll get you before you get me" mentality. But not for everyone, Wyman's court was one of the few places that allowed people to flee areas where society had broken down for sanctuary. So, keeping guests right himself did a great deal to keep the other northern Lord and small folk aware that nothing would make certain Lords, vassals, and small folk ever overturn ancient traditions of loyalty and obligation. Lord Wyman's Court and other nobles were fighting tooth and nail to keep the Seven Kingdoms from falling into a dystopian dark age caused by the open acts of sacrilege, abandonment of social customs,, and the general chaos of war. "The North Remembers" is a phrase that conveys that no person in the North high and low ever forgets a slight, insult, or evil action and who did it, just like they never forget individuals who help others, attempt to aid others, or shares what they have in good and bad times.
Wyman’s monologue never fails to give me chills. “The North remembers, and the mummer’s farce is almost done.” There’s something so incredibly threatening about it.
Tho still don't get how joining forces in Winterfell against Stannis was suppose to do anything. He either loses and everyone including himself dies or he wins and the only option that would avenge the red wedding dies. What was the plan there?
@@regalvas hes not joining the boltons in winterfell against stannis. hes playing them and waiting for a moment to betray the boltons and freys. he literally feeds the freys their own men in a pie he has cooked. He took only old men with him to winterfell who were ready to die. he instigated enough trouble in winterfell to have the boltons send his men out to fight stannis with the freys. Only this gives them the perfect opportunity to stab the freys in the back and help stannis in TWOW
@@sgtsnorlax3357 except since he is there with the knowledge that Stannis is going to attack, he knows that he will have to fight him (see prev comment about how that ends up) or Stannis will die in the snow. Bolton risks nothing and is able to send both to kill each other while his loyal forces remain untouched (as is his signature move). From the pink letter we know he hasn't betrayed Bolton and the other northen lords (even without "Arya" in Ramses power) still haven't lift a finger with regards to the Freys or the Boltons. This feels more like the Dorne plot of waiting and waiting for things to aling, just with the clearn failure right in front and nobody doing anything to prevent it.
The Manderlys owe their very existence to the Starks of Winterfell.. If that doesn't buy the deepest kind of loyalty known to men, I don't know what does.
@@cesarpalomo9210 Still it is very easy to forget debts of kindness when no one is watching. It takes a loyal friend to extend help to another friend when he needs it the most.
tywin died, and when his daughter cersei was imprisoned-no one moved. ned died, and when his daughters were imprisoned, the entire north and the riverlands flocked to bring back home ned’s girls
Having Wyman constantly be ridiculed out of earshot or mentally by others characters for the entire story really sets up this scene so well. Even the other northmen tend to disregard him as an individual, though they all know and respect his power as Lord of White Harbor, but they all make the same fatal mistake of thinking his outward appearance reflects his inner-self. He is not a weak-willed craven or a complete glutton who disregards anything but his own pleasures, he's actually a very patient man filled with terrible conviction and unwavering loyalty. "When treating with liars, even an honest man must lie." Sometimes the most dangerous pieces of the game are the most unassuming ones on the board. Underestimate their ability and fail to understand their motives and you may find yourself in check to something that has barely moved, if it has at all.
@@MusMasi I think Manderly is much more efficient than Doran, though. How many years Doran waited to even begin his vengeance? He took so long that he can't even enforce it anymore, since everyone involved in Elia's death are already dead. Manderly at least acted quickly instead of just waiting for the perfect moment.
@@incanusolorin2607 Manderly is much more decisive than Martel, but they’re in very different situations. Wyman doesn’t have the Sand Snakes to contend with in fairness.
To be fair, that was a great scene, and did give us a badass line in "tell them Winter Came for House Frey". It isn't anywhere near as interesting as the Great Northern Conspiracy, but if they *had* to cut it, I'm glad they at least gave Arya a fun moment.
"Foes and false friends are all around me Lord Davos, they infest my city like roaches, and at night, I feel them, crawling over me" - I felt a shiver going down my spine after he said that.
Same here. Imagine the absolute rage of injustice from having to compliment and kiss the asses of those who killed your own son to save your other son. Then they attain a position of authority and military power over your own while making up unbelievably weak stories about he really died and you have to act as if you are stupid enough to buy it. All the while you have to bide your time and focus your anger into careful, meticulous planning for a chance at justice. Not to be over dramatic but I've yet to see such emotions so accurately described in writing since the tale of Odysseus in the Odyssey.
Shows how great Davos is at reading people. At one point during their first meeting Rhaegar Frey says some stupid shit about Robb and Davos notices Wyman is looking at him like "a roach that needs a heel"
@@taisunnaiman2854 well, most people in the story won't consider that. The only Freys that may live and not be hated by everyone are Robb's squire and his relatives
... My son is home." Something about the way Lord Wyman said that chilled Davos to the bone. "If it is justice that you want, my lord, look to King Stannis. No man is more just."
Barbrey: Lord Wyman is not the only one who lost kin at your Red Wedding, Frey. Do you imagine Whoresbane loves you any better? If you did not hold the Greatjon, he would pull out your entrails and make you eat them, as Lady Hornwood ate her fingers. Flints, Cerwyns, Tallharts, Slates ... they all had men with the Young Wolf. Roger: House Ryswell too. Barbrey: Even Dustins out of Barrowton. The north remembers, Frey.[12] -Barbrey and Roger Ryswell to Aenys Frey
After she Saif this I believe it was the first time Roose bolton really started to worry.. all her animosity towards the starks mainly Ned I think will be put to the side over wat happened to the north and there lords soldiers and small folk
@@AlanOLeary209 yea it’s great to see the loyalty they had for Eddard and Robb be paid off now, they’d obviously all despise the Freys and Boltons for what they did in the Red Wedding, not only did they lose family but violating the guest right is one of the most sacrilegious crimes in Westeros, it’s considered worse than murder or cannibalism as told by the legend of the Rat Cook
“that smirking worm who wears a dragon’s name”... why does everything that even alludes to Rhaegar Targaryen give me chills in these books? it’s like this constant reminder of what should have been
@The Law We don't know yet...I am obvously talking about the books, not the show. R+L=J is confirmed, but while it made no diffrence on the show, we still don't know how the books will turn out.
@Lysa Nissa she is still arrogant and naive. And almost all of her decisions come Back to haunt her. If she wouldnt have Plot Armour, she would be dead by now
@@starcusmcr3964 Disagree Daenerys had the hardest childhood out of everybody worth a damn in the books and still after being raped, her son murdered,and staving at the age of 14 she has been one of the most successful conquerors with the least bloodshed even compared to our real history she has not been even remotely as brutal to get to the top compared to let's say ghangis khan or any conquerors. She uses her rage to people that deserve it, and let's be honest you think those slavers deserve the death they got after what they put those slaves through? I think many people just like to hate dany just to hate her, but at the same time love seeing A man cook people into pies and feeding them to some people that had nothing to do with TRW or root for a man that pushed a kid out a window - murdered Neds men in cold blood just to send a message, but god forbid if Dany kills slavers that chop innocent kids dicks off and make them murder puppies. 🙄
DnD murdered the source material in the same way the freys and boltons murdered all those at the red wedding. They are worms and rats playing the part of Dragons.
I love this guy. One of the best monologues in the series. He’s definitely fucked. I don’t think his plotting will be successful. But in this moment he was forever badass
Martin is all about balance, The Red Wedding has to be answered by The North. Remember House Bolton is the only Great Northern House that turned on House Stark. Lots of the Northern houses lost people at the Red Wedding, but like House Manderly have to feign loyalty to the Iron Throne to wait for the opportune moment to strike at Houses Bolton, Frey, and Lannister for breaking Guest Rite
“My lord,” boomed Hosteen Frey. “We know the man who did this. Ki led this boy and al the rest. Not by his own hand, no. He is too fat and craven to do his own kiling. But by his word.” He turned to Wyman Manderly. “Do you deny it?” The Lord of White Harbor bit a sausage in half. “I confess …” He wiped the grease from his lips with his sleeve. “… I confess that I know little of this poor boy. Lord Ramsay’s squire, was he not? How old was the lad?” “Nine, on his last nameday.” “So young,” said Wyman Manderly. “Though mayhaps this was a blessing. Had he lived, he would have grown up to be a Frey.”
@@lysander3262 glad I'm not the only one who noticed this, I freak out when people don't understand the "Wyman snuck in a mayhaps in his dialogue with Freys" theory
@@irasac1 Saying mayhaps is like crossing your fingers. The Frey kids play come into my castle a game where the idea is you can only betray the person who let you in if you say "mayhaps" first. When Walder Frey offers Robb food granting him guest right he slips on "mayhaps" as a subtle bit of foreshadowing that all is not well. Wyman uses Mayhaps here making it very clear what happened- he 100% scratched this kid.
Rabaa Murad the manderleys were a powerful house in the reach who were expelled by the gardeners who ruled the reach before the tyrells.. the starks welcomed them into the north and gave them the land that has become the city of white harbor .. so basically the debt is their existence.. fir without the starks taking them into the north they would have shrouded into memories.. thats why they have knights worship the 7 not the old gods.
Rabaa Murad if I remember correctly it was called the wolf's den before white harbor and I think was ruled by the greystarks who were like the karstarks in that were stark kin
It's important to note that it was in winter when the Starks helped the Manderlys. They would have died cold and alone in the north. "Summer friends melt away like the summer snows, but winter friends are friends forever."
"The North Remembers, Ser Davos. The North Remembers, and the murmur's farce is almost done. My son is home." In my top five favorite quotes from the entire series.
@@dcblunt666Even though Feast and Dance had good dialogue, that is not enough for tv. Feast and Dance lacked the fast pacing, action filled narrative of the first three books that made them great for tv.
@@MA-rf6bu This i highly disagree with. The general masses are easier to convince to stay with something they already love. Season 6-8 have objectively bad writting and...yet...people kept watching. The first few books made for gripping television because it had great writing AND like you said action. HOWEVER, like the books, people were already invested. They would have been more enthralled by these being adapted since they would make more sense narratively.
And they murder it, murder I say, and may Dan and Dave choke upon their fables. I may keep my HBO Subscription, I may even go see their Abomination of Star Wars the Old Republic, Pay for it out of my own pocket, but never think that means i've forgotten, the Fanbase Remembers, The Fanbase Remembers, their farce of a career is almost over. For the real Winds of Winter are coming.
That speech just made me emotional. I love and respect the Manderly’s now even more. Who are the rest of the Northern houses that remains loyal to House Stark ?
Rabaa Murad Mostly everyone except for the House Bolton for obvious reasons and possibly Houses Dustin and Ryswell and House Karstark loyal to Arnolf Karstark. House Dustin allegiance to House Bolton - and House Ryswell arises from the fact that the current Lady of Barrowton, Barbey Dustin (nee Ryswell) hates the Stark because she was inlove and always wanted to be married to the then heir to Winterfell, Brandon Stark but was passed over in favor of Catelyn Tully and because, Roose Bolton was her one-time brother-in-law as her sister Bethany Ryswell was the first wife to Roose Bolton and mother of his first born son Domeric. Also because her husband died when he went with Ned Stark to save Lyanna Stark at the Tower of Joy. Unfortunately for the North, those 3 are among the most powerful noble houses in the North. All of the rest of the Stark supporters like houses Hornwood, Cerwyn, Umber and Locke are not as powerful while others like houses Mormont, Flint, Norrey, Smallwood, etc. Thank the gods, House Manderly is by the the most powerful noble house in the North after the Starks based on wealth and men. It is said that if the the Lannisters have all the gold and the Tyrells have all the grains - the Manderlys have all the silver! Lord Manderly has great influence over a realm comparable to the size of the entire Stormlands plus, he has warships at his disposal.
All of them are loyal, Even lady Dustin, who absolutley hated Ned, mentioned to the Freys that all northern houses lost kin at the red wedding and that the north remembers. Roose got nervous there, especially with Ramsay plotting behind his back all the time.
Rabaa Murad the most obvious ones would be Glover and Mormont. Robett Glover is with Manderly in this chapter, and the Mormonts join Stannis with the Glovers. Another good bet is the Umbers and all the clansmen
Lord Manderly was so drunk he required four strong men to help him from the hal. “We should have a song about the Rat Cook,” he was muttering, as he staggered past Theon, leaning on his knights. “Singer, give us a song about the Rat Cook.”
Starks might have saved their own lives by helping a lost exiled Reach house long ago. I think there is a lesson here about helping people without expecting return immediately
they needed someone to hold the east after the betrayal of the Greystarks and the war against the Red Kings of House Bolton. House Manderley had the wealth and the numbers.
Funniest line from the Davos chapters at white harbour was when Raeghar made some disparaging remark about Rob Stark and he said "Manderly looked at him like he was a roach in need of a hard heel" always makes me laugh...
There is honest, to the Old Gods and the New, no other moment in this series that hits upon the marrow of the soul like this speech. Other authors can try, but nothing will get me rereading this series faster tha. Lord Manderley. The show shifted on him in favor of a small child who was still a cool character in the book without all the melodrama.
'ate Boltuns 'ate Frays 'ate Irunbern 'ate wildlins (not racys' just don't like 'em) 'ate mummer's farce luv me Storks luv me face trees luv me pork pies luv me vengince the Norf remembers simple as.
I appreciate all the readings you do from the song of ice and fire. Always have!!!The fact that you redid this narration is just another juicy morsel to sate us. No need to compare or choose, this was an excellent treat. Can I suggest the prior scene as an option, where wylla gives her speech and ser davos names jared frey a liar. That would be epic. Thank you again for your efforts, they are not without notice my man.
Watership Falls or D&D could have asked George what happens. That works too. Instead they killed both Stannis AND Roose to give their book plot lines to Jon and Ramsay because.... fan service?
And we loved that fan service How else was Jon gonna leave the nights watch? I hate that they killed Rickon and Osha though I would have love to have seen skagos.
@@alexbaker9578 the longest summers follow the hardest winters... lets hope that the winds that are rising are cold and harsh that it cuts through cloak and clothes. Hope that we may shiver throught this long winter
I love how so many complex characters in love in a position to change the whole trajectory of the story. I'm still waiting on WOW, GRRM! Please give us this book!
Jacob Childers davos was at the sisters. Davos still had to sneak into white harbor after the sisters stew," is it saffron I am tasting" I like this chapter as well because it mentions a Ned story not much well known, and the mention of a woman and Ned.....hmmm
tulkas 42o Ashara. Fuck the show with R+L = J The Aragorn/Jesus come to lead the people of Gondor I mean Westeros in their darkest hour. N + A = J is the better theory Imo.
The Manderlys remind me of Hagen Corleone, an adopted son which were more loyal than a trueborn son (= the Boltons). Also, it is interesting to hear an ex reachman to say the words of the northeners "The North Remembers!", a refugee, an immigrant, a true Northman!
You mean Tom Hagen. He never changed his name, the Don never wanted to change his name. By this time the Manderleys had been in the North for almost a thousand years, he's hardly an "ex-reachman"".
Hosteen: We know the man who did this. Killed this boy and all the rest. Not by his own hand, no. He is too fat and craven to do his own killing. But by his word. Do you deny it? Wyman: I confess ... I confess that I know little of this poor boy. Lord Ramsay's squire, was he not? How old was the lad? Hosteen: Nine, on his last nameday. Wyman: So young. Though mayhaps this was a blessing. Had he lived he would have grown up to be a Frey.
most noble houses have names with speacial rings . Bran robb eddard rickard starks, Tywin , tyrion Lannister, Rhaegar, Aemon, Aegon Targarians. except The Freys...Rhaegar Frey. it demonstrates how low this house really is(was). The book is surprising me more and more. i come here to remember why i like GOT after watching 3rd ep s8..SHIT
IIRC if you look at the Frey family tree you can see patterns with their names so it lines up with who's in power. Ie Targaryen names then Baratheon names and then Lannister names. Plus a shit ton of Walders.
Wyman actually fed his guests and also ate some of the frey men just so their bodies were never to be found, this guy means serious business when it comes to vengeance
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If Wyman was in season 8:
"I never honestly cared for the Starks really."
Innocent or otherwise 🤣
You have no balls Davos
Expectations subverted
A finger in my son
Someone's salty because didn't pay attention to Daenerys madness from season one.
*To everyone:* Lord Wyman Manderly
*To the Starks:* Myman Manderly
Niiice.
That's good. Really, really good.🎉🎉🎉
In the books the North actually remembers.
The north kinda forgot
Jake S George did
They forgot a lot of stuff i think tho i appreciate your sentiment. They forogt abojt the longnight and why there must always be a stark in winterfell. They forgot about the cotf and the longnight. They forgot about sacraficing bastards at the black gate. They forgot a lot.... But they certainly remember some
@@chippersonsencyclopediaemp1318 Why there must be a Stark in Winterfeel?
With a stark in winter fell the others can get past the wall.
As much as Manderly hated the Freys he didn't touch them until AFTER they left his castle. HE never violated guest right.
"Yes, we are a veritable bunch of backstabbing politicians who desire power and wealth, but at least I have STANDARDS, Lord Frey."
@@Jamhael1 "Yes, I'm going to turn you into a pie BUT AT LEAST I'm not going to do it while you're eating at my table!"
@@luigicavallo270 "I am a fat bastard, no need to pretend, but I don't play with my food, nor I shit where I eat."
The palfries he gave them meant that they were no longer protected by guest rite.
The laws of hospitality are a form of social obligation and self-policing these were created to limit and guide how honor and feuds could be avenged. The book demonstrated how the breaking of guest rights during the Red Wedding, destroyed many people's confidence high and low that anyone honoring traditions of guest rights, and loyalty to alliances would be safe themselves.
People began to avenge and attack each other in an " I'll get you before you get me" mentality.
But not for everyone, Wyman's court was one of the few places that allowed people to flee areas where society had broken down for sanctuary. So, keeping guests right himself did a great deal to keep the other northern Lord and small folk aware that nothing would make certain Lords, vassals, and small folk ever overturn ancient traditions of loyalty and obligation.
Lord Wyman's Court and other nobles were fighting tooth and nail to keep the Seven Kingdoms from falling into a dystopian dark age caused by the open acts of sacrilege, abandonment of social customs,, and the general chaos of war.
"The North Remembers" is a phrase that conveys that no person in the North high and low ever forgets a slight, insult, or evil action and who did it, just like they never forget individuals who help others, attempt to aid others, or shares what they have in good and bad times.
Wyman’s monologue never fails to give me chills. “The North remembers, and the mummer’s farce is almost done.” There’s something so incredibly threatening about it.
I know right? GRRM does his magic everytime
Yeah, it goes so hard lol
Tho still don't get how joining forces in Winterfell against Stannis was suppose to do anything.
He either loses and everyone including himself dies or he wins and the only option that would avenge the red wedding dies.
What was the plan there?
@@regalvas hes not joining the boltons in winterfell against stannis. hes playing them and waiting for a moment to betray the boltons and freys. he literally feeds the freys their own men in a pie he has cooked. He took only old men with him to winterfell who were ready to die. he instigated enough trouble in winterfell to have the boltons send his men out to fight stannis with the freys. Only this gives them the perfect opportunity to stab the freys in the back and help stannis in TWOW
@@sgtsnorlax3357 except since he is there with the knowledge that Stannis is going to attack, he knows that he will have to fight him (see prev comment about how that ends up) or Stannis will die in the snow.
Bolton risks nothing and is able to send both to kill each other while his loyal forces remain untouched (as is his signature move).
From the pink letter we know he hasn't betrayed Bolton and the other northen lords (even without "Arya" in Ramses power) still haven't lift a finger with regards to the Freys or the Boltons.
This feels more like the Dorne plot of waiting and waiting for things to aling, just with the clearn failure right in front and nobody doing anything to prevent it.
Get yourself a girl as loyal as Wyman Manderly. Best side character in Dance
Crow’s Eye As loyal as Wylla 😍
The Manderlys owe their very existence to the Starks of Winterfell.. If that doesn't buy the deepest kind of loyalty known to men, I don't know what does.
Really just a badass character over all. Even from the beginning he be plotting!
@@cesarpalomo9210 Still it is very easy to forget debts of kindness when no one is watching. It takes a loyal friend to extend help to another friend when he needs it the most.
@@Ahmed-ii7up Or to avenge them after they are gone.
tywin died, and when his daughter cersei was imprisoned-no one moved. ned died, and when his daughters were imprisoned, the entire north and the riverlands flocked to bring back home ned’s girls
Who would go to War against the Church? Cersei inflicted all that on her own
The north would definitely @@alexandrostheodorou8387
The fact they left out this scene and the whole Manderly plot is CRIMINAL. What the hell were they thinking? This could have been so good man.
They were always sick fuckers those dumb and dumber
they left a ton of things out, and rushed the last few seasons as well, should of been more.
D&D wanted Star Wars money by time this should have been happening on screen, not to tell George’s story.
You expect too much of Dumb and Dumber
@@aegonthedragon7303 and, ironically, they may have ruined their chances with Star Wars by botching the last two seasons, especially the last one.
Having Wyman constantly be ridiculed out of earshot or mentally by others characters for the entire story really sets up this scene so well. Even the other northmen tend to disregard him as an individual, though they all know and respect his power as Lord of White Harbor, but they all make the same fatal mistake of thinking his outward appearance reflects his inner-self. He is not a weak-willed craven or a complete glutton who disregards anything but his own pleasures, he's actually a very patient man filled with terrible conviction and unwavering loyalty.
"When treating with liars, even an honest man must lie."
Sometimes the most dangerous pieces of the game are the most unassuming ones on the board. Underestimate their ability and fail to understand their motives and you may find yourself in check to something that has barely moved, if it has at all.
he's very similar to Doran Martell revenge is a dish best eaten cold.
He and Doran Martell could probably find a lot to talk about
@@MusMasi lol I wrote my comment before reading yours. Funny we had the same idea though
@@MusMasi I think Manderly is much more efficient than Doran, though. How many years Doran waited to even begin his vengeance? He took so long that he can't even enforce it anymore, since everyone involved in Elia's death are already dead. Manderly at least acted quickly instead of just waiting for the perfect moment.
@@incanusolorin2607 Manderly is much more decisive than Martel, but they’re in very different situations. Wyman doesn’t have the Sand Snakes to contend with in fairness.
"But what if...instead...an 11 year old got all of the Freys in one room and the lot fell down dead?"
"Well that's way easier to film. Let's do it"
“SuBvErT eXpEcTaTiOnS!”
To be fair, that was a great scene, and did give us a badass line in "tell them Winter Came for House Frey". It isn't anywhere near as interesting as the Great Northern Conspiracy, but if they *had* to cut it, I'm glad they at least gave Arya a fun moment.
@@TyrannosavageRekt shit take
They also made Smalljon an actual traitor. I was expecting him to stab Ramsay in the back to help Jon and Sansa but nope.
I guess the North kinda forgot
"Foes and false friends are all around me Lord Davos, they infest my city like roaches, and at night, I feel them, crawling over me" - I felt a shiver going down my spine after he said that.
Khaled S he does some of my favorite excerpts from the books..
Music helps 😉
Same here. Imagine the absolute rage of injustice from having to compliment and kiss the asses of those who killed your own son to save your other son. Then they attain a position of authority and military power over your own while making up unbelievably weak stories about he really died and you have to act as if you are stupid enough to buy it. All the while you have to bide your time and focus your anger into careful, meticulous planning for a chance at justice. Not to be over dramatic but I've yet to see such emotions so accurately described in writing since the tale of Odysseus in the Odyssey.
Shows how great Davos is at reading people. At one point during their first meeting Rhaegar Frey says some stupid shit about Robb and Davos notices Wyman is looking at him like "a roach that needs a heel"
Here we are still waiting for the Winds of winter book to come out!
And they murdered him, murdered I say, and may the freys choke upon their fables.
but not waynwood and rosby freys they are good guys
@@taisunnaiman2854 well, most people in the story won't consider that. The only Freys that may live and not be hated by everyone are Robb's squire and his relatives
@@pawemarsza9515 well we consider that
@@pawemarsza9515 and they are rosby`s and waynwood`s freys dude
@@taisunnaiman2854 No, Robb's Squire is Olyvar Frey
... My son is home."
Something about the way Lord Wyman said that chilled Davos to the bone.
"If it is justice that you want, my lord, look to King Stannis. No man is more just."
Dilay Aydoğdu fire and blood.
@@BenGally00 "ours is the Fury"
@King of Austria Ours is the Fire
I wish i had a friend to stand and vouch for me even against his own head, like Lord Davos does for King Stannis.
@@MarkoFTW everyone needs a Davos in their life
"what Battles has the Bastard ever won that i should fear him?"
Tell me, turncloak.
"Someone get this man a Winter is Coming Gazette!"
None, but he has Ser 20 of House Goodmen on his side.
@@bigassboy9343 "If you think the books will have the same end as the show, you haven't been paying attention!"
that also gave me the chills. Dammit I hope we can read that in a book soon.
"Though mayhaps this was a blessing. Had he lived, he would have grown up to be a Frey."
Enjoy your pie, my lord. I know I shall.
Barbrey: Lord Wyman is not the only one who lost kin at your Red Wedding, Frey. Do you imagine Whoresbane loves you any better? If you did not hold the Greatjon, he would pull out your entrails and make you eat them, as Lady Hornwood ate her fingers. Flints, Cerwyns, Tallharts, Slates ... they all had men with the Young Wolf.
Roger: House Ryswell too.
Barbrey: Even Dustins out of Barrowton. The north remembers, Frey.[12]
-Barbrey and Roger Ryswell to Aenys Frey
Give us WoW already!!!!!
As though Barbrey Ryswell wasn't 100% behind the Frey-Bolton Fuckery
After she Saif this I believe it was the first time Roose bolton really started to worry.. all her animosity towards the starks mainly Ned I think will be put to the side over wat happened to the north and there lords soldiers and small folk
@@AlanOLeary209 yea it’s great to see the loyalty they had for Eddard and Robb be paid off now, they’d obviously all despise the Freys and Boltons for what they did in the Red Wedding, not only did they lose family but violating the guest right is one of the most sacrilegious crimes in Westeros, it’s considered worse than murder or cannibalism as told by the legend of the Rat Cook
@@Dell-ol6hbyou wrong, Barbrey hate the Starks. She hate them more then the Bolton hate the Starks
“My son is home.” Oh, all those things Wyman meant to say, packed in four words.
"The North remembers Lord Davos, the North remembers, and the mummer's farse is almost done"
“that smirking worm who wears a dragon’s name”... why does everything that even alludes to Rhaegar Targaryen give me chills in these books? it’s like this constant reminder of what should have been
He's referring to Rhaegar Frey
Lissie I’m aware
You know when you make a comment, then 30 seconds later realise that it was stupid? Yeah, that was me after replying to your comment.
Only GRRM would kill off - arguably - the most important character in a story before the story begins.
@The Law We don't know yet...I am obvously talking about the books, not the show. R+L=J is confirmed, but while it made no diffrence on the show, we still don't know how the books will turn out.
ASOIAF - The North Remembers!
GoT - The North Kinda Forgot
I like how he still respects the targaryens despite repelling against them with the Stark's
@Lysa Nissa gtfo. Daenerys sucks.
@Lysa Nissa did you even read asoiaf? She is unlikable and boring. She is arrogant and naive.
@Lysa Nissa she is still arrogant and naive. And almost all of her decisions come Back to haunt her. If she wouldnt have Plot Armour, she would be dead by now
Lysa Nissa
Remember when she ordered the torture of a father and his daughter,who were possibly innocent??
May you choke upon your love towards her!
@@starcusmcr3964 Disagree Daenerys had the hardest childhood out of everybody worth a damn in the books and still after being raped, her son murdered,and staving at the age of 14 she has been one of the most successful conquerors with the least bloodshed even compared to our real history she has not been even remotely as brutal to get to the top compared to let's say ghangis khan or any conquerors. She uses her rage to people that deserve it, and let's be honest you think those slavers deserve the death they got after what they put those slaves through?
I think many people just like to hate dany just to hate her, but at the same time love seeing A man cook people into pies and feeding them to some people that had nothing to do with TRW or root for a man that pushed a kid out a window - murdered Neds men in cold blood just to send a message, but god forbid if Dany kills slavers that chop innocent kids dicks off and make them murder puppies. 🙄
DnD murdered the source material in the same way the freys and boltons murdered all those at the red wedding. They are worms and rats playing the part of Dragons.
Damn 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Well the show (the mummers farce) is almost done. Gods willing GRR finishes the series and it shits all over that travesty.
And it somehow got worse before it ended
DnD? You don't mean Dungeons and Dragons do you?
Foster Davies-Smith no
Mean : dumb and dummer That are Weiss and Bénioff whatever
To Roooosee Bolton, His warden of the north.
I love that line.
mathieudesro The way he says it is so epic.
Really epic
"My son is home..."
God that line is cold.
In the Merman Court, in front of the Freys, Wyman kept referring to Davos as "smuggler"
Behind closed doors "The north remembers, lord Davos."
Wyman is an absolute chad.
Probably one of my favourite sidecharacters in the later story, but thats probably because I love scheming plots
The Freys and the Boltons are going to get fucked up by the end of the series, and I'm going to relish every second of it
Here’s to hoping...No to the inevitable.
Yeah after George dies & someone finishes the books.
"That smirking worm who wears a dragons name" what a fckin line man!!
I love this guy. One of the best monologues in the series. He’s definitely fucked. I don’t think his plotting will be successful. But in this moment he was forever badass
It will be successfull as stannis will take winterfell
Althrough his forces will die during stannis' takeover
Martin is all about balance, The Red Wedding has to be answered by The North. Remember House Bolton is the only Great Northern House that turned on House Stark. Lots of the Northern houses lost people at the Red Wedding, but like House Manderly have to feign loyalty to the Iron Throne to wait for the opportune moment to strike at Houses Bolton, Frey, and Lannister for breaking Guest Rite
“My lord,” boomed Hosteen Frey. “We know the man who did this. Ki led this boy and al the rest. Not by his own hand, no. He is too fat and craven to do his own kiling. But by his word.” He turned to Wyman Manderly. “Do you deny it?” The Lord of White Harbor bit a sausage in half. “I confess …” He wiped the grease from his lips with his sleeve. “… I confess that I know little of this poor boy. Lord Ramsay’s squire, was he not? How old was the lad?”
“Nine, on his last nameday.” “So young,” said Wyman Manderly. “Though mayhaps this was a blessing. Had he lived, he would have grown up to be a Frey.”
Check out that sneaky "mayhaps", Wyman plays Come Into My Castle even better than Walder.
@@lysander3262 glad I'm not the only one who noticed this, I freak out when people don't understand the "Wyman snuck in a mayhaps in his dialogue with Freys" theory
@@mrksjke huh explain this would you
@@mrksjke what is that theory? Care to explain?
@@irasac1 Saying mayhaps is like crossing your fingers. The Frey kids play come into my castle a game where the idea is you can only betray the person who let you in if you say "mayhaps" first. When Walder Frey offers Robb food granting him guest right he slips on "mayhaps" as a subtle bit of foreshadowing that all is not well. Wyman uses Mayhaps here making it very clear what happened- he 100% scratched this kid.
Remember when everyone was still obsessed with Game of Thrones?
The North remembers.
The West knows
Damn shame we never got this speech in the show...
i dont think too many people except book readers know what the debt is and how much the manderlys owe to the starks.
Darth Fantazzi tell me about the debt, please.
Rabaa Murad the manderleys were a powerful house in the reach who were expelled by the gardeners who ruled the reach before the tyrells.. the starks welcomed them into the north and gave them the land that has become the city of white harbor .. so basically the debt is their existence.. fir without the starks taking them into the north they would have shrouded into memories.. thats why they have knights worship the 7 not the old gods.
Rabaa Murad glad to help.
Rabaa Murad if I remember correctly it was called the wolf's den before white harbor and I think was ruled by the greystarks who were like the karstarks in that were stark kin
It's important to note that it was in winter when the Starks helped the Manderlys. They would have died cold and alone in the north.
"Summer friends melt away like the summer snows, but winter friends are friends forever."
"The North Remembers, Ser Davos. The North Remembers, and the murmur's farce is almost done. My son is home."
In my top five favorite quotes from the entire series.
Everyone who were loyal to the wolfs remembers, and through one way or another, the Starks will rule the north again!
Mummer’s farce I think.
Contrary to popular belief, Feast and Dance would've made great television and this is proof.
Is that a popular belief? I think it would have translated excellently to tv. You just need way more seasons than D&D were willing to give
@@dcblunt666Even though Feast and Dance had good dialogue, that is not enough for tv. Feast and Dance lacked the fast pacing, action filled narrative of the first three books that made them great for tv.
@@MA-rf6bu This i highly disagree with. The general masses are easier to convince to stay with something they already love. Season 6-8 have objectively bad writting and...yet...people kept watching. The first few books made for gripping television because it had great writing AND like you said action. HOWEVER, like the books, people were already invested. They would have been more enthralled by these being adapted since they would make more sense narratively.
And they murder it, murder I say, and may Dan and Dave choke upon their fables. I may keep my HBO Subscription, I may even go see their Abomination of Star Wars the Old Republic, Pay for it out of my own pocket, but never think that means i've forgotten, the Fanbase Remembers, The Fanbase Remembers, their farce of a career is almost over. For the real Winds of Winter are coming.
If you continue to pay for their work then you remembering means nothing.
@@jimlahey6330 And now I'll never have to. One good point of Krazy K.
🤣🤣
I hope. Grrm dropped the ball also. He should have written the god damn book before the show caught up. He only had what like 1,800 days to do it...
@@tkaki6029 the book will have several thounsands pages. It's not that ez, if you want good story
As great a player he is, Lord Manderly seems to have also prepared for his own death,
maybe knowing that he won't return from Winterfell.
The reason he can't ride a horse is because of his massive, valyrian steel balls.
That speech just made me emotional. I love and respect the Manderly’s now even more. Who are the rest of the Northern houses that remains loyal to House Stark ?
Rabaa Murad Mostly everyone except for the House Bolton for obvious reasons and possibly Houses Dustin and Ryswell and House Karstark loyal to Arnolf Karstark. House Dustin allegiance to House Bolton - and House Ryswell arises from the fact that the current Lady of Barrowton, Barbey Dustin (nee Ryswell) hates the Stark because she was inlove and always wanted to be married to the then heir to Winterfell, Brandon Stark but was passed over in favor of Catelyn Tully and because, Roose Bolton was her one-time brother-in-law as her sister Bethany Ryswell was the first wife to Roose Bolton and mother of his first born son Domeric. Also because her husband died when he went with Ned Stark to save Lyanna Stark at the Tower of Joy. Unfortunately for the North, those 3 are among the most powerful noble houses in the North.
All of the rest of the Stark supporters like houses Hornwood, Cerwyn, Umber and Locke are not as powerful while others like houses Mormont, Flint, Norrey, Smallwood, etc.
Thank the gods, House Manderly is by the the most powerful noble house in the North after the Starks based on wealth and men. It is said that if the the Lannisters have all the gold and the Tyrells have all the grains - the Manderlys have all the silver! Lord Manderly has great influence over a realm comparable to the size of the entire Stormlands plus, he has warships at his disposal.
All of them are loyal, Even lady Dustin, who absolutley hated Ned, mentioned to the Freys that all northern houses lost kin at the red wedding and that the north remembers. Roose got nervous there, especially with Ramsay plotting behind his back all the time.
Rabaa Murad the most obvious ones would be Glover and Mormont. Robett Glover is with Manderly in this chapter, and the Mormonts join Stannis with the Glovers. Another good bet is the Umbers and all the clansmen
All them except a fraction of the Karstarks.
Mr. Googoopants Lady Dustan is loyal still. Just playing her part
Best non-stark lord in the north.
What about Roose
@@jaimelannister1797 he is the worst
What about the umbers
@@ahmadsultan4643 the umbers are cool. Not the best though
Roose is the most interesting lord character in the north
Lord Manderly was so drunk he required four strong men to help him from the hal. “We should have a song about the Rat Cook,” he was muttering, as he staggered past Theon, leaning on his knights. “Singer, give us a song about the Rat Cook.”
He is such a legend 🔥
🥧🥧🥧
Throwing shade on the Freys, I see.
3:21 to the end is just amazing. Gives me chills every time
Starks might have saved their own lives by helping a lost exiled Reach house long ago. I think there is a lesson here about helping people without expecting return immediately
they needed someone to hold the east after the betrayal of the Greystarks and the war against the Red Kings of House Bolton. House Manderley had the wealth and the numbers.
Funniest line from the Davos chapters at white harbour was when Raeghar made some disparaging remark about Rob Stark and he said "Manderly looked at him like he was a roach in need of a hard heel" always makes me laugh...
There is honest, to the Old Gods and the New, no other moment in this series that hits upon the marrow of the soul like this speech. Other authors can try, but nothing will get me rereading this series faster tha. Lord Manderley. The show shifted on him in favor of a small child who was still a cool character in the book without all the melodrama.
Powerful and unforgettable, even after all these years 🤙🏾
Indeed 🤙🏾
Indeed! Lol
“Smuggle me back my liege lord, and I will take Stannis Baratheon as my king.”
-Wyman Manderly
"You call me evil. But unfortunately for you, I'm a necessary evil."
damn manderly bring north remember to the whole new level
This is damn near perfect, gonna have to picture your voice every time I read Wyman's lines.
The show didn’t even know what the line “The North Remembers” means. They just saw it and threw it in at random.
This entire chapter gave me chills
'ate Boltuns
'ate Frays
'ate Irunbern
'ate wildlins (not racys' just don't like 'em)
'ate mummer's farce
luv me Storks
luv me face trees
luv me pork pies
luv me vengince
the Norf remembers
simple as.
Aye mlurd
Luv me lampreys too.
This was probably the most intense speech in the entire series
I've watched this at least 100x. It's always great. The north remembers.
Wyman Manderly, the real badass of the series!
This reminds how good of an author Martin is. So good
I appreciate all the readings you do from the song of ice and fire. Always have!!!The fact that you redid this narration is just another juicy morsel to sate us. No need to compare or choose, this was an excellent treat. Can I suggest the prior scene as an option, where wylla gives her speech and ser davos names jared frey a liar. That would be epic. Thank you again for your efforts, they are not without notice my man.
In my opinion one of the best moments in the book.
Davos’ chapters in ADWD at the Merman’s Court are some of the top chapters. Roy Dotrice reading them
They're the best! Just the way the court is described takes my breath away.
And people wonder why the show is awful in comparison to the books.
Emperor of Mankind Because the books have yet to be concluded so they had to change it up.
Watership Falls or D&D could have asked George what happens. That works too. Instead they killed both Stannis AND Roose to give their book plot lines to Jon and Ramsay because.... fan service?
And we loved that fan service How else was Jon gonna leave the nights watch? I hate that they killed Rickon and Osha though I would have love to have seen skagos.
Watership Falls most popular theory for the books is Jon warged into Ghost which is way cooler
Watership Falls
>And we loved that fan service
Did we? Or by "we" you mean your fellow showplebs? Well, count me out regardless.
I honestly nearly stood up and cheered when I read this 😂 a bloody book haha
Asoiaf is worth the cheers I’ve never put down a book and cried until Asoiaf
I feel like ashamed. I never read the books but I see what the story could have been. How pitiful. May D and D choke upon their fables.
Read them! They are so good! And dont listen to the haters, Winter IS coming, even if it has taken a while...
Alex Baker Saving up to buy the full set
@@alexbaker9578 the longest summers follow the hardest winters... lets hope that the winds that are rising are cold and harsh that it cuts through cloak and clothes. Hope that we may shiver throught this long winter
Winter will come
Lord too fat is gonna be one of the true heroes of the wow, he may not survive but the north will remember.
I love how so many complex characters in love in a position to change the whole trajectory of the story. I'm still waiting on WOW, GRRM! Please give us this book!
The North Remembers, Lord Davos. The North remembers and the mummer’s farce is almost done.
Incredible reading! It has so much skill and emotion, you really should do more of these.
When little Walder dies*
Wyman Manderly : “So young. Though mayhaps this was a blessing. Had he lived he would have grown up to be a Frey”
lol
My favorite part of White Harbor in the Davos chapters was the chowder lol
Jacob Childers davos was at the sisters. Davos still had to sneak into white harbor after the sisters stew," is it saffron I am tasting" I like this chapter as well because it mentions a Ned story not much well known, and the mention of a woman and Ned.....hmmm
tulkas 42o Ashara. Fuck the show with R+L = J The Aragorn/Jesus come to lead the people of Gondor I mean Westeros in their darkest hour. N + A = J is the better theory Imo.
Books: The North Remembers
Show: The North Remembers, vaguely… I guess, I dunno 🤷♂️
How the fuck did the show ruin this!? We needed this god damn speech
music: Antonio Pinto - Warlord
Richard Griffins would have been so perfect for this role.
The North retains knowledge of past events. I'm so sad we'll never get to see his plan in action.
If this scene was made into the show with this voice... I know i would've shed some tears.. Manly old broken tears... But tears nonetheless
The Manderlys remind me of Hagen Corleone, an adopted son which were more loyal than a trueborn son (= the Boltons). Also, it is interesting to hear an ex reachman to say the words of the northeners "The North Remembers!", a refugee, an immigrant, a true Northman!
His ancestors were imigrants, he was born and raised in the north. You could say that Starks are imigrants because they came from essos.
@@robertsmith8734 Exactly!
His daughter seems to be fond of robb
@@Miuranger1 He was her king )=
You mean Tom Hagen. He never changed his name, the Don never wanted to change his name.
By this time the Manderleys had been in the North for almost a thousand years, he's hardly an "ex-reachman"".
This is the best one by far oh man I get goosebumps
Fuck me this book series is the best
Hell yeah! Thanks for the reup
Sweet Cindy its not a reupload. Its redone
One of your best readings
DinoMartoine 2nd best after the Stannis peach
Okay, time to read them all again.
This was absolutely badass when I first read it. The winds of Winter will be goated.
BRO...that we'll never get to see this story ended properly is just so sad. Please George, finish your books!
“I have dementia, and I forgot” - North (TV show)
The North remembers,great chapter and thanks for sharing.
So, so good. Excellent. Thank you for making this.
Could you please give us Aemon Targaryens Duty Speech?
Egg
Why wasn't this in the show!!!
The show doesn't deserve book content anymore. It betrayed ASOIAF.
Because they've decided to kill off Stannis and his family, thus making his epic Northern Campaign unexistent in the show.
Davidreadsasoiaf does it really well. The accent and emotions he puts into it... make it something else
Unforgettable 🤙🏾
I always wanted to sea the Merman's Court and the scenes with Lord Manderly and Davos.
When the CK3AGOT mod drops the WoT5K bookmark I NEED to do a Manderly run & FIGHT LIKE HELL for the Starks
I admire this man, he is not what he seems.
Hosteen: We know the man who did this. Killed this boy and all the rest. Not by his own hand, no. He is too fat and craven to do his own killing. But by his word. Do you deny it?
Wyman: I confess ... I confess that I know little of this poor boy. Lord Ramsay's squire, was he not? How old was the lad?
Hosteen: Nine, on his last nameday.
Wyman: So young. Though mayhaps this was a blessing. Had he lived he would have grown up to be a Frey.
most noble houses have names with speacial rings . Bran robb eddard rickard starks, Tywin , tyrion Lannister, Rhaegar, Aemon, Aegon Targarians. except The Freys...Rhaegar Frey. it demonstrates how low this house really is(was). The book is surprising me more and more. i come here to remember why i like GOT after watching 3rd ep s8..SHIT
IIRC if you look at the Frey family tree you can see patterns with their names so it lines up with who's in power. Ie Targaryen names then Baratheon names and then Lannister names. Plus a shit ton of Walders.
@@cw442 a house that deserved to be vanished root and stem.
The Frey's are actually quite wealthy and have a much larger military force than Riverrun.
Where are the Freys during A Dance With Dragons, Mr. Popo?
Popo: I'll tell you where they're not: SAFE.
Wyman actually fed his guests and also ate some of the frey men just so their bodies were never to be found, this guy means serious business when it comes to vengeance
I like that the names Wyla and Lyanna are right after each other, a subtle nod to the fact that Lyanna and not Wyla is Jon Snow's mother.
This speech made me jump out of my seat. I swear to the old gods and the new I could have ran through a wall right then and there.