The eagle and the fish dance is mind boggling. Wow! Listening to Dr.Bush is always an enlightening experience. Thank you so much for all you do Zach and Rich💕
My husband took the vaccines which gave him blood clots that shut down his colon. I am now contributing to his nursing care. One morning last week I was at a low place and I was led to listen to Zach Bush. I didn't do herbs to become aware, but I am an aware soul. As I listen to Zach he resonates with my understanding. So much truth. I am grateful for him.
I was his best friend growing up. We hung out every day. We went to church together. I never saw his mother sick. Maybe it happened once. She was always cooking for us. She was very caring.
Genius . I've always lived my dreams , as an artist / traveller / visionary / entrepreneur , and all I want more than anything is to see more people dreaming lucid dreams daily . We are all equally gifted .
Man. That ending had me feeling energy from nature. Suddenly I started weeping softly, tears draining, that whole exercise, all for the animals in the ocean in the name of greed and selfishness. I’ve never felt something so real and I owe this to your team Rich❤️
Thank you both of you ; Zach and Rich!!! you are inspiring and beautiful human beings that give me hope for a human society living in HARMONY with Nature!!!!! there is NO other way to save our species!!!!! LOVE PEACE xx
“We are all on the brink of insanity.” 💯🤙🏽🙌🏽 …and most of us are a couple paychecks either way from homelessness so…let’s just share the love and help our global community thrive 🥰
Wanted to say that you Rich and Zack Bush are such a profound inspiration to humanity with your indepth knowledge on diverse conversation delivered with such humility and grace.. Thank you for being such bright, inspirational lights on this planet ❣️❣️❣️ Also would love for you Rich yo have Vandana Shiva on your podcast and discuss her new book called" ONENESS vs the 1%
Stories are wonderful. Problem is no one is listening. Everyone wants to be heard, so no one is left to listen. So then we turn to a higher power, and hope at least a higher power is listening. And that higher power is yourself too. The observer. Stepping back. It's better not to tell your story, unless you're a great story teller and then you can tell everyone's story, cause they're all the same! A beautiful circle.
Breathtaking! This podcast has sparked such intense debate and illumination among my friends and loved ones. So much to resonate with and unpack. Also has led us to research the back catalogue of this amazing and transcendental human. Love you Zach!
1:18:00 That was a profound realization. I also encountered this wisdom in my spiritual study: An animal that offers itself to a higher form of life, earns the karmic benefit to be that higher-life. The progression of Consciousness upward.
The story about the liquid mercury silver looking sardine was just fabulous! Way to go Zach. What a beautiful life you live and we all can share it with you because you speak as if you are still there, thanks so much. x Very Intense and vibrant. I loved this whole conversation.
what an honour to be a witness to this gathering. Im excited to feel validation regarding my own perceptions that align closely with what ive heard here today. Continue on being open to love and sharing of intimate moments - going deeper withput reservation or judgement.. beautiful. thank you so much for sharing this experience. I attend NA meetings that are incredibly spiritual. the rooms are filled with a magical acceptance that i havent found anywhere else. We also hold hands and speak the serenity prayer together .. its a real moment that in undefined and free. Blessings on you all in all that you do Hugs
I love the concepts of Quarum sensing and Non-empathic presence without War!! This is a talk which inspires me to my core! I am so grateful for these humans who are exploring the richness of who we really are. Namaste.
I am so grateful that I found Zach Bush talks on RUclips. It doesn't matter to me if we differ on some opinions just that I glean so much from him. I think at times Zach doesn't believe in God but we came from bacteria, than other times I think he does believe in God. What an inspiration he is!
This conversation Is so beautiful, affirming, comforting, life allowing... I could go on. I CAN go on😊 I commit to being reborn everyday and to touch, reach out and FEEL my fellow beings with love and acceptance ❤ THANK YOU Rich and Zach and everyone there! I felt your energy and will carry it with me this day 👍🙌🙏
I was so waiting for this one, once you mentioned you've met each other again! Thanks! A bit disappointed it's only audio though. As a non-native English person, I tend to listen/understand better when I see the ongoing conversation. Thanks anyway, Rich and Zach! You guys inspire me. Cheers
There is an energy that I've stumbled upon through music that seemed to thaw my heart to some kind of ancient knowledge and the release of this energy was so powerful and blissful that I know if we all felt it together, there would never be fear or unhappiness ever again. Is it our natural state of grace?
The intangible benefits from listening to this podcast and going through the meditation are deeply profound and tough to convey in words. My heart is full and soul humming with a euphoric vibration. Thank you both for your time! 💜🎶
Omg, this was mind blowing. I know it’s a year later and the world is in more turmoil than ever, but it was so perfectly received. Thank you so much dr Zach bush and rich roll, I appreciate you both and I really loved this amazing conversation. I literally brought me to tears on more than one occasion because it resonated on so many levels. Can’t get enough of this conversation. Bless you both and happy new year 💕❣️🥳
For now I'll just thank you for bringing the darkness to light and bringing the light to Darkness so that we may feel a full expansion of this thing we call reality. Listening to this I shed many tears thinking how wonderful it is to share an experience with other like-minded individuals willing to put themselves in a vulnerable state. I will add later but thank you for the tears.
Comparing trauma isn't really entirely appropriate, so it can be quite dismissive to say we're not suffering as bad as our ancestors. Whilst that may look right on paper, we're all fighting our own battles and everyone's suffering is legitimate.
Everyone’s suffering is legitimately created by their own ego perception of life. Measuring, comparing, and competing continues to keep us separated from the truth.
Thank you Rich and Zack for yet another wonderful podcast. I was completely overwhelmed by this. This will be listened to again by myself a few times. God Bless. 🙏🇨🇦😎
Thank you guys. Just listen to for the first time today. This message is so fresh and so needed to here. Thank you so much. We appreciate all your work to bless us with this much needed info. Keep those messages coming
This is the most incredible discussion I have ever heard. I had the same experience watching lions hunt a wildebeest as the story you tell of Victor and the fish and eagle. I had that same sense about what I watched in Africa and it changed my understanding of death.
I was trying, but I find it hard to listen to the glorification of pain. Especially the claim that there was no fear in WW I trenches. If expressing your fear can literally get you killed (was deserters were shot) and you live in a culture that equals fear with cowardice, of course you don‘t write home about your fear. But if you manage to come home at all the odds are that you are traumatized for life. And still you live in a culture that says „stop whining and be glad you are alive“ and all that trauma stays within you. Soldiers who survived WWII weren‘t treated any better. Then you are completely alone, you have no reference point to connect with yourself or anyone else. It was horrid. I am the child of a man who came home with this raw lump of endless horror inside him. It gave him screaming nightmares for the rest of his life and there was nothing in his world to help him heal, because in those days society said: if anything is wrong with your psyche you are mad, so shut up“. And to this day soldiers who come home with PTSD are sometimes looked at askance, because the „crucible of pain“ Bush talks about so airily has failed to turn them into a diamond and just damaged them instead. If we can only learn compassion while standing in a river of blood and feces while taking a shower of exploding human we are doomed indeed. Neither can physical pain be used as a shortcut to any kind of connection. Should we learn how to touch each other so that we can reduce the painkillers? By all means! But don‘t glorify butchery whether for war or barbecue. So now I‘ve listend to the very end, suicidal fish, angels and everything. And I still think that we need all the empathy in the world to figure out what the hospice nurses figured out: Dying people need more human touch and less painkillers. We need all the empathy in the world to acknowledge the suffering of our loved ones instead of reflexively papering it over by saying ‚it will be alright‘. And to do all that we need all the empathy in the world to look at the raw lump of suffering in ourselves and learn to make it better instead of masking it. And so thank you for this podcast. I may have shouted my disagreement while I listened, but it made me think harder than a podcast where I nod agreement at every word.
I agree with your comment but pain can cause growth, without pain or discomfort you won't change for any better. Not speaking of war, war is something on the extreme that our minds cannot always handle, it's not who we are.
Vegan Rican1 There is two parts to growing. The pain, yes, but then you have to work your way through it and hopefully come out on the other side having actually grown. Thats one of the reasons I was so unhappy with the war example, because its victims were told to stop thinking about it and be happy their were still alive. There is so much everyday pain in the world. Some of it extreme. Why not chose that as an example?
@@nommh Idk why he chose that, I prefer David Goggins point of view on pain and yes you go threw pain and discomfort to change, but that's because you leave your comfort zone mentally and physically.
Waw, I'm so glad i read your comment. The glorification of pain as a means to grow is something that made me grind and suffer meaninglesly, a lot. To read your critique prevents me from falling into this disbodied and idealised vision of pain. Still love the podcast, but seriously, thank you for the comment
Us women have acute empathic awareness through the process of giving birth. The overarching power and economic structure resulting in war has been imposed on us precisely due to our vulnerabilities in this state of pregnancy and caregiving for our young. I like to think this is changing but there is a poweeful historical precedent at play. Perhaps the paradigm shift we seek is to leave behind patriarchy and connect with our inherent female energy.
We've been living in the male dominated world for all time. I'm simply suggesti g that historically women haven't organized themselves into packs that charged forth with weapons to brutally slaughter themselves as a way to solve a problem. Maybe let's look at various cultures and communities of women who have not utilized violence, dominance and exploitation to organize themselves. We don't need to reinvent the wheel. The point isn't to have all females, it is to learn from the wisdom inherent in the half of the people who have the babies. We all have a male and female side and to be healthy they need to be in balance. The same is true for society as a whole.
I agree with you, this is a time for women and female energy and I keep getting inspired everyday by womens resilience, self-sacrifice and ability to take care of themselves and others needs. My own mother has been the primary breadwinner AND primary caregiver in my family and I hope I can one day give her back everything she has given me. But I have to disagree with you that the entire system has been imposed on you. The feminist revolution took place precisely because of the realization that it wasn't a one-way street relationship, and awareness and behavior change from the part of women (and men, too, even if reluctantly) brought about all the changes that we're still adapting to. Women know how to play the game of power as well or better than men and how to, like kings and lords (politicians and corporations in this day and age), benefit from those 2 armies clashing against each other. The biggest change we need in this century is the abolition of hierarchy and the internet is helping to bring that about by showing us how naked people in power and so called experts are. We just need better cooperative processes and global society could radically change in a very short amount of time.
Amazing conversation, per usual. Thank you both. The pain theme struck a cord as it relates to the typical modern birth process. Was hoping you guys would touch on that in addition to the death + war offshoot. I chose an unmedicated home birth - transformation through discomfort. I've heard Zach allude to this process/reality specific to birth in other conversations, and how most modern births rob the mom-baby-family from that experience. I theorize that this dissonance starting with a medicated (often c-section) birth is a main contributor to the pain management/avoidance paradigm currently at play. So many more topics to cover! Keep them coming guys, and thanks again!
I’m not convinced. Animals may have a programming that allows them to know their cycle of life in the universe because they lack consciousness that humans have. We have the dignity of free will to some degree. Loved the interview and lots to think about.
Its all about becoming the observer! We were never meant to come to this earth and become emotionally or psychologically attached to the occurrences of our lives or the lives of others. We can, in ever moment, hold a place of compassion for that happens and for all beings. But our true purpose for being here is to gather the wisdom of the occurrences of our journeys here and return home. The ego took over some time ago and the result of that take over is the world we live in today. We can return to the perspective of the observer and life immediately becomes more fluid just like the movement of the sardines or birds in murmuration. And when we rise to the place or perspective of the observer, we no longer have the need to judge and therefore we become accepting and fluid with all that occurs in this life journey!
Welcome back Zack. You guys put on a riveting talk together the other two times. I've listened multiple times. Next time, can we look at government subsidies toward animal ag. Or lack thereof in fruits and veggies. Also, maybe touch on lobbiests, ad gag orders, and crony capitalism in the food industry. The only way to get things back to snuff is to get the honesty back in. There will always be a next Roundup or Liberty Link waiting in the wings.
Very interesting,.. I’m gonna hav to sit w/ this.. I’d beg to differ on some points re: caring for people & their leaching vampire energy. Everything he says makes total sense, but a spiritual path is what gets us out of our head (ego). I think everyone’s experience is totally unique. Respect either way.🙏🏻.
Because of Dr. Bush's message I will spend more time in nature. Enjoying the natural beauty of this world might increase my ability to love. Dr. Bush talks about having a diverse biome inside of you. The question arises though, should I buy air purifiers for my indoor environment? Is that counter productive?
Hi Rich, thank you for this wonderful podcast! I have a request. Would it be possible to have this podcast (and others) set up so the caption are automatically in other languages? These messages need to go around the world and so many people don't speak English! Deep gratitude to your work and Dr Zack's
THIS one of the most wonderful unfoldment of life and how we cant't live our life because we are sooooo afraid of looking at the "TRUTH" of death and tand u have to die every min in order tp LIVE fully...
This is a great podcast. I am trying to get in touch with you because I am suffering from mal de debarquement syndrome from a plane flight. Those who are suffering with this rate disease and I need help and understanding how to get ourselves out of this brain malfunction. Please, Rich Roll and Dr. Bush, help us.
Made me cry, when we stop touching our loved ones as they are dying, when my dog was dying after being poisoned by my neighbor and all I could do was pet his head as he lay there in coma
There are a lot of very wise men and ladies I have listernd to and read most of them. I am the man i an t day for ther guidence and wisdom but the end part of the talk was like listerning to god. Navaho indiens say the purpose of life is to walk in beuty. Zack is the beuty they mean. Forever greatfoul. Russell.
I am also a Triple boarded physician... I am very much an ardent supporter...I hope to find a way to visit with him and explore how we might share expertise, knowledge, and mutual goals. I would love to be a part of his movement in some way. Dr. John Vansant, MD. FACC
As to do with nations going to war looking for self identity, is it the nation or is it individuals that take the nation into war? Thanks for have Zach Bush on again.
Such a blessing to enjoy this expansive sharing between Dr Zach Bush and Rich Roll! I love how you observe reality, Dr Zach. Moving beyond filters as much as possible. Reiki, Healing Touch so powerful. Nassim Haramein resonancescience.org such accessible unified field physics that simply explains (and has the math for) our reality. Love the story about the fish not moving in the stream. What an amazing world we live in! Loving blessings and gratitude to you all from Jeanine Namasté
Very beautifull podcast about Life and. Death and touching and experiencing and receiving and giving from an open Heart …. And a beautifull lillte exercise Holding hands and experiencing the energy ❤❤❤
I am ALL about narrative so this really rang true. I am among other things a free-lance writer and stuff I wrote about Tom Petty's music -- don't give a fuck if I come across as slightly obsessed, Petty theft is great but he needs a cheering section because his music helped so many people. Knowing him got me sober. Invite Mike Campbell or Benmont Tench to one of your long drawn-out talk fests. Benmont loves to talk; what is so special or not about Gen X? These guys are the real thing, thank you Tom Stoppard.
Does anyone have any resources to share for more information on non-empathic presence? Google is not producing much and I want to explore this topic more...
Personally, I don't think non-empathic presence is a very accurate term for what was actually being explained. You can still be present *and* empathic with a person suffering, but ideally you want to put your projections aside (projections are a mechanism of the ego). So maybe you could look into psychological projection. Also, the spiritual teachings of Eckhart Tolle may help you to understand this type of stuff.
This was a little too grandiose for my tastes from Zach if I'm being honest. I'm more into the science stuff, like when he talks about glyphosate, and the impact on cells, and how all cells communicate with each other, and how a cancer cell is just a damaged cell that can't communicate any longer. That stuff is fascinating, a little harder to swallow this one, but it was still entertaining and there were a couple gems in here despite the kind of cult leader vibes I got from this one.
Johnny B...The whole point was to give a different slant on their retreat, otherwise it would have been just a repeat of past talks, nothing new. Appreciate the different perspective.
The eagle and the fish dance is mind boggling. Wow! Listening to Dr.Bush is always an enlightening experience. Thank you so much for all you do Zach and Rich💕
My husband took the vaccines which gave him blood clots that shut down his colon. I am now contributing to his nursing care. One morning last week I was at a low place and I was led to listen to Zach Bush. I didn't do herbs to become aware, but I am an aware soul. As I listen to Zach he resonates with my understanding. So much truth. I am grateful for him.
I find myself coming back to these talks with Zach over and over. I would love for you guys to keep collaborating in the future he never gets old
Literally! 😀 Either of them 😄💯🙌🏽
Yes. He’s the best.
I was his best friend growing up. We hung out every day. We went to church together. I never saw his mother sick. Maybe it happened once. She was always cooking for us. She was very caring.
Late to the party. Not at all disappointed. Thank you, Rich Roll and Zach Bush.
Rich Roll, Dr. Zach, Andrew Huberman, Lex Friedman et al. It's a great time to be alive!
This is so PROFOUND! Really "Being seen" and really seeing others! This is REAL LOVE! OMG, I love this Man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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So, so, agree Ally. Profound... and then some! Something to practice every day
Genius . I've always lived my dreams , as an artist / traveller / visionary / entrepreneur , and all I want more than anything is to see more people dreaming lucid dreams daily . We are all equally gifted .
Man. That ending had me feeling energy from nature. Suddenly I started weeping softly, tears draining, that whole exercise, all for the animals in the ocean in the name of greed and selfishness. I’ve never felt something so real and I owe this to your team Rich❤️
So much joy in my heart when I listen to Zach - Holy Human Being you are so glorious
Thank you both of you ; Zach and Rich!!! you are inspiring and beautiful human beings that give me hope for a human society living in HARMONY with Nature!!!!! there is NO other way to save our species!!!!! LOVE PEACE xx
I have never cried listening to a podcast., Just thank you. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. I think you've just changed my life
Hey, I did the exact same thing!! Amazing!!
me too Just like when he was on wellness force with Josh Trent
I’ve cried listening to a few of his podcasts!
“We are all on the brink of insanity.” 💯🤙🏽🙌🏽 …and most of us are a couple paychecks either way from homelessness so…let’s just share the love and help our global community thrive 🥰
Wanted to say that you Rich and Zack Bush are such a profound inspiration to humanity with your indepth knowledge on diverse conversation delivered with such humility and grace.. Thank you for being such bright, inspirational lights on this planet ❣️❣️❣️
Also would love for you Rich yo have Vandana Shiva on your podcast and discuss her new book called" ONENESS vs the 1%
WOW - who is this guy and where does he come from - what an amazing human being 💚
Oh my goodness this is priceless - two of my fave people together touching incredible depths.
Resonating to my core. Deep gratitude!
Stories are wonderful. Problem is no one is listening. Everyone wants to be heard, so no one is left to listen. So then we turn to a higher power, and hope at least a higher power is listening. And that higher power is yourself too. The observer. Stepping back. It's better not to tell your story, unless you're a great story teller and then you can tell everyone's story, cause they're all the same! A beautiful circle.
Zach is an AMAZING story telling. Dammmmmmmmmmmm! ❤️
Interview starts at 13:00
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Seedy thanks we don’t want to waste so much time
Stacy UrbanThank you
Breathtaking! This podcast has sparked such intense debate and illumination among my friends and loved ones. So much to resonate with and unpack. Also has led us to research the back catalogue of this amazing and transcendental human. Love you Zach!
In my view the essence of what Zach is bringing across, is the same as what for example Mooji is conveying. Beautiful!!!! Thank you!!!!!
I listened to this at work and my mind was completely blown, Zach is an amazing human being.
1:18:00 That was a profound realization.
I also encountered this wisdom in my spiritual study:
An animal that offers itself to a higher form of life, earns the karmic benefit to be that higher-life. The progression of Consciousness upward.
The story about the liquid mercury silver looking sardine was just fabulous! Way to go Zach. What a beautiful life you live and we all can share it with you because you speak as if you are still there, thanks so much. x Very Intense and vibrant. I loved this whole conversation.
This was the best podcast I’ve ever listened to. Thank you both, you’re amazing human beings
I’m feeling immense gratitude to be on this planet, at this time, with you gentlemen. Thank you for sharing this conversation ♥️
what an honour to be a witness to this gathering.
Im excited to feel validation regarding my own perceptions that align closely with what ive heard here today.
Continue on being open to love and sharing of intimate moments - going deeper withput reservation or judgement.. beautiful. thank you so much for sharing this experience.
I attend NA meetings that are incredibly spiritual. the rooms are filled with a magical acceptance that i havent found anywhere else. We also hold hands and speak the serenity prayer together .. its a real moment that in undefined and free.
Blessings on you all in all that you do
Hugs
I love the concepts of Quarum sensing and Non-empathic presence without War!! This is a talk which inspires me to my core! I am so grateful for these humans who are exploring the richness of who we really are. Namaste.
I am so grateful that I found Zach Bush talks on RUclips. It doesn't matter to me if we differ on some opinions just that I glean so much from him. I think at times Zach doesn't believe in God but we came from bacteria, than other times I think he does believe in God. What an inspiration he is!
As a health and nutrition enthusiast, I feel as though I struck gold learning from Dr Bush. Genius!
This conversation Is so beautiful, affirming, comforting, life allowing... I could go on. I CAN go on😊 I commit to being reborn everyday and to touch, reach out and FEEL my fellow beings with love and acceptance ❤ THANK YOU Rich and Zach and everyone there! I felt your energy and will carry it with me this day 👍🙌🙏
I really like this interview. Zach crosses and breaks down barriers with simple cognitive human connection, something we all need. Beautiful!!
This is the most impactful podcast that truly needs to be watched by everyone.
I was so waiting for this one, once you mentioned you've met each other again! Thanks! A bit disappointed it's only audio though. As a non-native English person, I tend to listen/understand better when I see the ongoing conversation. Thanks anyway, Rich and Zach! You guys inspire me. Cheers
There is an energy that I've stumbled upon through music that seemed to thaw my heart to some kind of ancient knowledge and the release of this energy was so powerful and blissful that I know if we all felt it together, there would never be fear or unhappiness ever again. Is it our natural state of grace?
100% agree. Music has touched me like that and the pure bliss shared by millions or billions of people at once would change consciousness forever.
So good to hear you as a medic awakened to so many other levels that we are! Helps to restore trust! Thank you for your honest courage! 🙏🐬🙏
The intangible benefits from listening to this podcast and going through the meditation are deeply profound and tough to convey in words. My heart is full and soul humming with a euphoric vibration. Thank you both for your time! 💜🎶
"If your identity is "resilience,"you will keep creating trouble in your life to reaffirm that for yourself" - Simple but profound...
Amazing. Thanks Rich and Zach. I often flip-flop listening between Rich Roll and Eckart Tolle. With this podcast I don't have to.
I love Dr. Zach. I wish he was in charge of FDA
Absolutely LOVE #RichRoll and #ZachBush. Some of my favorite humans!
Wonderful. Glad to be introduced to Zach Bush at this time in my life! Thank you for sharing this with the world.
This is beautiful from beginning to end. Thank you to all involved for creating this wonderful sharing of wisdom.
Omg, this was mind blowing. I know it’s a year later and the world is in more turmoil than ever, but it was so perfectly received. Thank you so much dr Zach bush and rich roll, I appreciate you both and I really loved this amazing conversation. I literally brought me to tears on more than one occasion because it resonated on so many levels. Can’t get enough of this conversation. Bless you both and happy new year 💕❣️🥳
For now I'll just thank you for bringing the darkness to light and bringing the light to Darkness so that we may feel a full expansion of this thing we call reality. Listening to this I shed many tears thinking how wonderful it is to share an experience with other like-minded individuals willing to put themselves in a vulnerable state. I will add later but thank you for the tears.
Woohoo! I love Rich Roll’s conversations with Zach Bush MD!
So freaking powerful! So many astounding nuggets of life altering information. I know I’ll be playing this one over and over!
Wow, I want to meet Dr. Zach Bush in person so badly! I adore this Man!
Heartfelt appreciation to both of you ....for I am touched moved & inspired ...thank you Zac Bush & Rich Roll 🙏🍃
Comparing trauma isn't really entirely appropriate, so it can be quite dismissive to say we're not suffering as bad as our ancestors. Whilst that may look right on paper, we're all fighting our own battles and everyone's suffering is legitimate.
Everyone’s suffering is legitimately created by their own ego perception of life. Measuring, comparing, and competing continues to keep us separated from the truth.
Agreed!
This is immensely precious and deep. 🙏 Zach for your work and for this beautiful inspiring talk.
Thank you Rich and Zack for yet another wonderful podcast. I was completely overwhelmed by this. This will be listened to again by myself a few times. God Bless. 🙏🇨🇦😎
Thank you guys. Just listen to for the first time today. This message is so fresh and so needed to here. Thank you so much. We appreciate all your work to bless us with this much needed info. Keep those messages coming
I’m taking down those cubicle walls
Haven't listened to this one yet but the previous one was one of the best podcasts I've ever heard. Love you Gents!
Vandana Shiva next!!! Vandana Shiva Next!! Vandana Shiva!!! Thankyuhkindly! =]
This is the most incredible discussion I have ever heard. I had the same experience watching lions hunt a wildebeest as the story you tell of Victor and the fish and eagle. I had that same sense about what I watched in Africa and it changed my understanding of death.
So grateful to you both for being authentic!
I was trying, but I find it hard to listen to the glorification of pain. Especially the claim that there was no fear in WW I trenches. If expressing your fear can literally get you killed (was deserters were shot) and you live in a culture that equals fear with cowardice, of course you don‘t write home about your fear. But if you manage to come home at all the odds are that you are traumatized for life. And still you live in a culture that says „stop whining and be glad you are alive“ and all that trauma stays within you. Soldiers who survived WWII weren‘t treated any better. Then you are completely alone, you have no reference point to connect with yourself or anyone else. It was horrid. I am the child of a man who came home with this raw lump of endless horror inside him. It gave him screaming nightmares for the rest of his life and there was nothing in his world to help him heal, because in those days society said: if anything is wrong with your psyche you are mad, so shut up“. And to this day soldiers who come home with PTSD are sometimes looked at askance, because the „crucible of pain“ Bush talks about so airily has failed to turn them into a diamond and just damaged them instead. If we can only learn compassion while standing in a river of blood and feces while taking a shower of exploding human we are doomed indeed. Neither can physical pain be used as a shortcut to any kind of connection. Should we learn how to touch each other so that we can reduce the painkillers? By all means! But don‘t glorify butchery whether for war or barbecue.
So now I‘ve listend to the very end, suicidal fish, angels and everything. And I still think that we need all the empathy in the world to figure out what the hospice nurses figured out: Dying people need more human touch and less painkillers. We need all the empathy in the world to acknowledge the suffering of our loved ones instead of reflexively papering it over by saying ‚it will be alright‘. And to do all that we need all the empathy in the world to look at the raw lump of suffering in ourselves and learn to make it better instead of masking it.
And so thank you for this podcast. I may have shouted my disagreement while I listened, but it made me think harder than a podcast where I nod agreement at every word.
THANK YOU
I agree with your comment but pain can cause growth, without pain or discomfort you won't change for any better. Not speaking of war, war is something on the extreme that our minds cannot always handle, it's not who we are.
Vegan Rican1 There is two parts to growing. The pain, yes, but then you have to work your way through it and hopefully come out on the other side having actually grown. Thats one of the reasons I was so unhappy with the war example, because its victims were told to stop thinking about it and be happy their were still alive. There is so much everyday pain in the world. Some of it extreme. Why not chose that as an example?
@@nommh Idk why he chose that, I prefer David Goggins point of view on pain and yes you go threw pain and discomfort to change, but that's because you leave your comfort zone mentally and physically.
Waw, I'm so glad i read your comment. The glorification of pain as a means to grow is something that made me grind and suffer meaninglesly, a lot. To read your critique prevents me from falling into this disbodied and idealised vision of pain. Still love the podcast, but seriously, thank you for the comment
Us women have acute empathic awareness through the process of giving birth. The overarching power and economic structure resulting in war has been imposed on us precisely due to our vulnerabilities in this state of pregnancy and caregiving for our young. I like to think this is changing but there is a poweeful historical precedent at play. Perhaps the paradigm shift we seek is to leave behind patriarchy and connect with our inherent female energy.
We've been living in the male dominated world for all time. I'm simply suggesti g that historically women haven't organized themselves into packs that charged forth with weapons to brutally slaughter themselves as a way to solve a problem. Maybe let's look at various cultures and communities of women who have not utilized violence, dominance and exploitation to organize themselves. We don't need to reinvent the wheel. The point isn't to have all females, it is to learn from the wisdom inherent in the half of the people who have the babies. We all have a male and female side and to be healthy they need to be in balance. The same is true for society as a whole.
I agree with you, this is a time for women and female energy and I keep getting inspired everyday by womens resilience, self-sacrifice and ability to take care of themselves and others needs. My own mother has been the primary breadwinner AND primary caregiver in my family and I hope I can one day give her back everything she has given me.
But I have to disagree with you that the entire system has been imposed on you. The feminist revolution took place precisely because of the realization that it wasn't a one-way street relationship, and awareness and behavior change from the part of women (and men, too, even if reluctantly) brought about all the changes that we're still adapting to. Women know how to play the game of power as well or better than men and how to, like kings and lords (politicians and corporations in this day and age), benefit from those 2 armies clashing against each other. The biggest change we need in this century is the abolition of hierarchy and the internet is helping to bring that about by showing us how naked people in power and so called experts are. We just need better cooperative processes and global society could radically change in a very short amount of time.
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@Apex Mind agreed. This is the balanced place we are seeking.
Going to listen to this on Spotify but I am glad he is back. Absolutely loved his information on pesticides etc..
Amazing conversation, per usual. Thank you both. The pain theme struck a cord as it relates to the typical modern birth process. Was hoping you guys would touch on that in addition to the death + war offshoot. I chose an unmedicated home birth - transformation through discomfort. I've heard Zach allude to this process/reality specific to birth in other conversations, and how most modern births rob the mom-baby-family from that experience. I theorize that this dissonance starting with a medicated (often c-section) birth is a main contributor to the pain management/avoidance paradigm currently at play.
So many more topics to cover! Keep them coming guys, and thanks again!
I’m not convinced. Animals may have a programming that allows them to know their cycle of life in the universe because they lack consciousness that humans have. We have the dignity of free will to some degree. Loved the interview and lots to think about.
Its all about becoming the observer! We were never meant to come to this earth and become emotionally or psychologically attached to the occurrences of our lives or the lives of others. We can, in ever moment, hold a place of compassion for that happens and for all beings. But our true purpose for being here is to gather the wisdom of the occurrences of our journeys here and return home. The ego took over some time ago and the result of that take over is the world we live in today. We can return to the perspective of the observer and life immediately becomes more fluid just like the movement of the sardines or birds in murmuration. And when we rise to the place or perspective of the observer, we no longer have the need to judge and therefore we become accepting and fluid with all that occurs in this life journey!
Welcome back Zack. You guys put on a riveting talk together the other two times. I've listened multiple times. Next time, can we look at government subsidies toward animal ag. Or lack thereof in fruits and veggies. Also, maybe touch on lobbiests, ad gag orders, and crony capitalism in the food industry.
The only way to get things back to snuff is to get the honesty back in. There will always be a next Roundup or Liberty Link waiting in the wings.
Very interesting,.. I’m gonna hav to sit w/ this.. I’d beg to differ on some points re: caring for people & their leaching vampire energy. Everything he says makes total sense, but a spiritual path is what gets us out of our head (ego). I think everyone’s experience is totally unique. Respect either way.🙏🏻.
Because of Dr. Bush's message I will spend more time in nature. Enjoying the natural beauty of this world might increase my ability to love. Dr. Bush talks about having a diverse biome inside of you. The question arises though, should I buy air purifiers for my indoor environment? Is that counter productive?
Im so happy i subscribed last time Dr Zach Bush was on!
Hi Rich, thank you for this wonderful podcast! I have a request. Would it be possible to have this podcast (and others) set up so the caption are automatically in other languages? These messages need to go around the world and so many people don't speak English! Deep gratitude to your work and Dr Zack's
Wow this was extremely profound. It went really deep. Thank you!
The origin of fear? Vulnerability. Always with us.
Such a beautiful soul.!
Thanks for sharing! Loved this podcast! At the meditation time I went deep. Wow! Great opportunity to renew ourselves.
This is heartbreaking to listen in July 2020... all the disconnection happening.
Try listening to it now 😒 Hold hands everyone 🥰
@@clairefitzmaurice8758 THANKS. I love listening to Zach Bush 💛 this talk is so mind blowing.
THIS one of the most wonderful unfoldment of life and how we cant't live our life because we are sooooo afraid of looking at the "TRUTH" of death and tand u have to die every min in order tp LIVE fully...
This is a great podcast. I am trying to get in touch with you because I am suffering from mal de debarquement syndrome from a plane flight. Those who are suffering with this rate disease and I need help and understanding how to get ourselves out of this brain malfunction. Please, Rich Roll and Dr. Bush, help us.
Looove this episode. Thank You so much ❤❤❤
So so so beautiful. Put me at ease with a lot of the chaos going on around us. Thank you x
Made me cry, when we stop touching our loved ones as they are dying, when my dog was dying after being poisoned by my neighbor and all I could do was pet his head as he lay there in coma
If you want to skip the advertisements and listen to the actual podcast. Go to 13:12 🥳
This is incredible! Mind blowing perspectives wow!
There are a lot of very wise men and ladies I have listernd to and read most of them. I am the man i an t day for ther guidence and wisdom but the end part of the talk was like listerning to god. Navaho indiens say the purpose of life is to walk in beuty. Zack is the beuty they mean. Forever greatfoul. Russell.
I am also a Triple boarded physician... I am very much an ardent supporter...I hope to find a way to visit with him and explore how we might share expertise, knowledge, and mutual goals. I would love to be a part of his movement in some way.
Dr. John Vansant, MD. FACC
You are missing the point Zach is making John.
I wish it was a video, nonetheless, it was great and emotional. Thank you, Dr. Zach BUSH
As to do with nations going to war looking for self identity, is it the nation or is it individuals that take the nation into war? Thanks for have Zach Bush on again.
Such a blessing to enjoy this expansive sharing between Dr Zach Bush and Rich Roll! I love how you observe reality, Dr Zach. Moving beyond filters as much as possible.
Reiki, Healing Touch so powerful.
Nassim Haramein resonancescience.org such accessible unified field physics that simply explains (and has the math for) our reality.
Love the story about the fish not moving in the stream. What an amazing world we live in!
Loving blessings and gratitude to you all from Jeanine
Namasté
Very beautifull podcast about Life and. Death and touching and experiencing and receiving and giving from an open Heart …. And a beautifull lillte exercise Holding hands and experiencing the energy ❤❤❤
Thank you - love me some Zach Bush wisdom
I am ALL about narrative so this really rang true. I am among other things a free-lance writer and stuff I wrote about Tom Petty's music -- don't give a fuck if I come across as slightly obsessed, Petty theft is great but he needs a cheering section because his music helped so many people. Knowing him got me sober. Invite Mike Campbell or Benmont Tench to one of your long drawn-out talk fests. Benmont loves to talk; what is so special or not about Gen X? These guys are the real thing, thank you Tom Stoppard.
Zach Bush was send to our planet from another planet.
Thank you....Thank you...Thank you for continuing to open my mind and soul and my heart to more love.
Thank you for this channel and your inspiration.
Was the layering of the sound intentional at 1hr 48. It was kinda trippy
Second time listening!
Amazing!
me too!!
Love this episode!!!❤️🤯
Wow! You are blowing my mind Zach Bush!
man this was so real and plain. I love it! feeels o so apropos! deep truths. thanx guys!
Thank you, boys. I am loving this. (Still in the middle of the talk.)
Does anyone have any resources to share for more information on non-empathic presence? Google is not producing much and I want to explore this topic more...
Personally, I don't think non-empathic presence is a very accurate term for what was actually being explained. You can still be present *and* empathic with a person suffering, but ideally you want to put your projections aside (projections are a mechanism of the ego). So maybe you could look into psychological projection. Also, the spiritual teachings of Eckhart Tolle may help you to understand this type of stuff.
Very nice talk. Thank you.
This has moved me, grateful
This was a little too grandiose for my tastes from Zach if I'm being honest. I'm more into the science stuff, like when he talks about glyphosate, and the impact on cells, and how all cells communicate with each other, and how a cancer cell is just a damaged cell that can't communicate any longer. That stuff is fascinating, a little harder to swallow this one, but it was still entertaining and there were a couple gems in here despite the kind of cult leader vibes I got from this one.
Johnny B...The whole point was to give a different slant on their retreat, otherwise it would have been just a repeat of past talks, nothing new. Appreciate the different perspective.
The other talks are the basis to get to the higher realm of energy. If you want basic science just simply go back to the previous lectures.
Absolutely love it!
Zach great Bush appreciate you and Mr Rich