Dearest Gordon Laing, I've been enjoying and admiring your style of informative, no-nonsense, high quality reviews for about 15 years now I think. I remember the days where digital cameras were small rectangular silver plastic boxes with just about 1 megapixel. You are my favourite reviewer together with Kai. The reviews you create are next level, same as fine art that is in the details. You deserve millions of subscribers. I don't know why, but on THIS planet for some reason camera reviews whose first half is about coffea beans or carnavals get a thousand more views than dedicated photographers like us. Divide their channels by 1.000 and you are left with their true photographers viewers. Multiply your channel by 1.000 and you know the amount of genuine appreciation we have for your reviews. I'm sure I speak for many of us but I actually took the time to write this down. Most will not say it, but they think it. PS. I would love some off-topic videos by you about stories about life, clients, journeys, philosophical wish lists, gear related and non gear related, made by you from your vision in the future. Greetings!
thanks, I appreciate your support. Yes, it frustrates me when I see other channels doing similar content but with 10x the views or more. There are loads of factors, but I do think the algorithm punishes really old channels, as I see a few that are as old as mine not doing as well as you'd expect. PS - you may enjoy my new retro channel! ruclips.net/channel/UCcHvGNLrx6NndBFFXknUt-Q
Cheers, Gordon. I know this is an older video now, in 2024, but it answered my all questions as to where to put my money when launching into the world of filters on an RF-mount body and using my non-exotic range of lenses.
It works great with the MP-E 65mm and MT-24EX, a front mounted filter will lead to lots of reflections and flare, the filter adapter is a life saver when you need polarization. And on my RP it also keeps out a lot of dust :)
Came for a review and got as an extra the reason on why the sky is more blue when using a polarizer 4:15. You are just to freaking awesome Gordon!!! Thanks for the review
I bought this adapter after already owning the straight barrel adapter for a few reasons: 1) while most of my lenses take a standard threaded filters, they vary in size and the cost to buy high quality 77mm and 82mm filters in CPL and various ND strengths (not using a VND in front of a wide angle lens to avoid the cross), would cost more than this adapter and both drop-ins. 2) Having both adapters means I can easily swap between them as needed. For $100 I don't need to buy the drop-in clear filter, I have the tube and it doesn't take that much more space to carry. 3) I have wide angle lenses that it's expensive and bulky to fit filters on like the Sigma 14-24 2.8 or the TS-E 17mm. 4) The space savings of carrying drop-in filters is significant. My standard filter wallet holds six filters and is 7-8" long, 4" wide, and 3/4" thick. I can't fit it in a tight Pelican case. The drop-in filters are smaller, lighter, and come in hard cases making them easier to cram into small, tight spaces.
The ability to use ND filters is great for video, where the SS is fixed and the use of wide aperture in bright light severely limited. If I'm using a Canon R for video a lot, this type of adapter would be one of my first buys.
When you use circular ND and polarizer together on an untra wide lens, it creates massive vignetting, almost uncorrectable on post processing. I think it's a great option for that purpose
I always like your product reviews, very informative. I do have a question though with regards to the Canon with drop in ND filter. Is it true that at maximum ND setting, there's an awful color shift to blue? I'm only asking because I'm getting to purchase a Canon R8 and I need to decide which EF-RF adapter to get. I've older EF lenses from my DSLR cameras. Thanks much.
I bought the CPL adapter as it was on sale cheap at B&H. You are right about wide angle and getting the filter in the right position. Its a complete pain in the ass.
Thanks! It would be awesome if Canon came out with an automatic electronic ND filter adapter, similar to what the Sony FS5 developed, and later on the FS7ii.
This is good use of the space between the camera and the EF lenses, however when creating video ideally you want a variable ND to be as close to off and possible from when you are indoors, and then you just turn it for when you go outside. With this you will have to carry around the case to carry the clear filter and swap it out for the ND when you need it. On an aesthetic point, I think the adaptor should be the same colour as the EF lenses, since as it matches the Camera colour at stands out as being an adaptor rather, which makes it look clunky. Plus the price point. I will stick to my 82mm variable NDs and use step up rings. An alternative is magnetic filters which I am going to explore. Thanks for the video Gordon!
thanks for this great review. I am thinking to buy this to be able to protect the sensor when freelensing. As I understand you can change the strength of the effect. Do you think that there is no effect applied when the setting is in the minimal setting?
thanks for keeping us entertained with new content Gordon - this is a great idea for an adapter - well done canon on offering one (albeit for a huge price premium). It's worth noting Kippon and fotodiox have offered these for over 5 years so it's not 'new' but good to see a manufacturer giving us options. Bet you with that Park View was open :)
Thx for the video dude...just a question: when U use the adapter ring with EF lenses, is there any crop in photography? Plz note that I have 5D mark iii, so the pics wideness is the same in both cameras?
I do like that you can use it w/ the ultra wide canon. I did think of that, too, when i saw the adapter. That would be the only reason i'd consider this version over the version with the ring. The downside to the drop in filter version, though, is a ND Grad is far more needed than a VariableND or Polarizer...and there is no ND Grad option (and making one out of glass would make it cost prohibitive.) So, for serious filter work, you'd still need to go with a filter system anyway making this version a moot point as i see it. However, if you get the one with the ring and de-click it, it would be great to use with a manual focus Cin-E lens to change the ISO
It would be interesting to compare the quality of the filters with the more expensive variable ND-filters and polarizes. If they are really good, it's actually a cheap solution if you think about the price of big high-quality filters for the large tele- lenses or huge systems for wide angle lenses. It would also be interesting to see if there is a general difference between a filter in front and at the back of a wide angle lens. The direction of the light changes and this might have some influence on the polarizer and the nd (usually two polarizers).
Looks useful, but I think it's very overpriced. The 'clear filter' at £90 is mad. A much more reasonable sale would be the adaptor with clear + polariser, or clear + ND couplings at the price for those alone at the moment.
Thank you for this review. It finally answers the question I couldn't see on any Canon documentation. I might have bought this if it was compatible with the drop in filters from the super tele lenses as I already have the clear and circular polarizer for the 500mm. Picking up a neutral density version then would have been worthwhile...otherwise I already have a good assortment of filters that I can also use on other cameras/lenses.
Question for you, is it accurate what he said about having to use the clear filter when you're not using the ND? I found some €20 plastic adapters on Amazon that are designed to close the gap left behind by the drop in filter after it is removed. I don't understand how this clear filter can actually be doing anything optically. Can you confirm if it is needed or whether covering the hole so no light or dust gets in would work? Thanks
Personally, I enjoy the heavy sky/subject contrast that a CPL can produce (ex: your Space Needle photo). However, I’m tempted to buy the control ring version to bring back that classic ability to change the aperture right from the barrel. Decisions decisions 🤔
its acually annoying and overrated. the control ring often gets truned accidentally changing your settings unknowingly there is a lock feature to prevent that but often i forget to lock and unlock. and if youre using a battery grip it renders the adapter in an obscure position that often times make you just utilize one of the dials to change aperture. i ended up just configuring the Av to the back control wheel on the body and use the control ring adapter to change white balance which i never thought id do but here i am. if youre into events youll need to chage settings drastically and quickly. but if youre into portraiture in a controlled setting then you wouldnt have this problem
I've tested lots of Tamron lenses, but not adapted to EOS R bodies, sorry! You can find all my lens reviews at cameralabs.com - there's loads that I don't do videos for here.
Hi, I use the Tamron 24-70 2.8 G2 lens adapted to my Eos r and works perfectly for image quality, AF, IS, etc. Only thing you don't have control over is automatic in camera correction of peripheral illumination or distortion, as canon won't support this on third party lenses.
Is it possible to use other kinds of filters? IR filters? 10 stop ND filters? Spectral filters like sodium vapour filters? I know Canon doesn't sell them, but other filter manufacturers do.
Good review. I don't have a Canon R body (yet ) and whilst I use both ND and Polorizing filters very often during the year and the drop in filters look really easy to operate, the price is a bit steep. Also in practical terms I would only be using an adapter if I had just an R body and were utilizing my EF glass, ultimately I would want to buy into the native lenses and then these drop in adapters would be redundant. Of course you will realise that I am a complete fantasist, an R5 body and some prime RF glass, where's your fairy godmother when you need her most :)
Hi Gordon, I didn't get it when you talked about the added glass altered light path therefore without an insert, this adapter will affect focus. Does it apply to all EF lenses or only some? I was always under the impression that this adapter without insert(cover the opening of course) equals to the plain adapter. Could you please explain further or give some source links?
I think the rear filter impacts anything in front of it, so they may have adjusted the thickness of the adapter a little to compensate. So when you take the filter out, the distance isn't exactly right for all lenses at all focusing distances. I only tried it with two EF lenses and both had the same issue at the same respective ends of their ranges. I too assumed it would work like a normal adapter when no filter was fitted, but that wasn't the case with the two EF lenses I tried with it- and popular ones too, the EF 16-35mm f2.8 and EF 70-200mm f2.8 III versions.
@@cameralabs thanks Gordon. Bummer I was hoping it to be perfect easy one adapter solution to all. For now, it looks like a niche for those lenses can't use front filter or too expensive to buy a huge front filter, like you concluded in the video. Thank you very much for the demonstration.
Great video Gordon. I was wondering the same thing about covering the gaping hole and just using it with no filter? Do you think it would impact focussing normally for let’s say portraiture? Are you saying it only affects focussing on infinity such as with distant landscape photography?
Thank you so much sir 🙏.... behalf of me and everyone who has been looking for information that can make smart and money saving desition's.... specially as photography is in itself a luxurious and quiet an expensive hobby/carrier. Our wish is for your well-being and a healthy long life Sir 🙂👍
Great video! I was wondering if the adaptor steps down the quality. I managed to speak with Canon live chat imaging.chat/ and they explained me how everything works. The RF glass looks great ...cant wait to get some as well
It's incredibly tone-deaf and arrogant for the accounting department at Canon to hold hostage those who get this, as it's 100% necessary to buy the UV filter that should cost ten bucks rather than over a hundred. And that tiny little control wheel is a terrible solution for precision shooters, vulnerable to bumps and shifts during a shot. Canon needs to work this out with a second version (including a UV filter) before the R5 launch, otherwise it damages their whole brand.
If you are shooting precision then making sure the CPL is in the right spot should be last of the process, no? All I see here is bitching that Canon created something g that lends use of EF lenses in a great way and allows people to have a CPL on any EF lens.
@@mikezupancic2182 Always hilarious when consumers drink the Kool-Aid from gigantic multinational capitalist corporations. No one is saying that this product is 100% bad. The "bitching" that you cannot possibly disagree with, is that they needed to include the UV filter if the product is unusable without it. Understand?
Dearest Gordon Laing, I've been enjoying and admiring your style of informative, no-nonsense, high quality reviews for about 15 years now I think.
I remember the days where digital cameras were small rectangular silver plastic boxes with just about 1 megapixel.
You are my favourite reviewer together with Kai. The reviews you create are next level, same as fine art that is in the details.
You deserve millions of subscribers. I don't know why, but on THIS planet for some reason camera reviews whose first half is about coffea beans or carnavals get a thousand more views than dedicated photographers like us.
Divide their channels by 1.000 and you are left with their true photographers viewers.
Multiply your channel by 1.000 and you know the amount of genuine appreciation we have for your reviews.
I'm sure I speak for many of us but I actually took the time to write this down. Most will not say it, but they think it.
PS. I would love some off-topic videos by you about stories about life, clients, journeys, philosophical wish lists, gear related and non gear related, made by you from your vision in the future. Greetings!
thanks, I appreciate your support. Yes, it frustrates me when I see other channels doing similar content but with 10x the views or more. There are loads of factors, but I do think the algorithm punishes really old channels, as I see a few that are as old as mine not doing as well as you'd expect. PS - you may enjoy my new retro channel! ruclips.net/channel/UCcHvGNLrx6NndBFFXknUt-Q
Cheers, Gordon. I know this is an older video now, in 2024, but it answered my all questions as to where to put my money when launching into the world of filters on an RF-mount body and using my non-exotic range of lenses.
It works great with the MP-E 65mm and MT-24EX, a front mounted filter will lead to lots of reflections and flare, the filter adapter
is a life saver when you need polarization.
And on my RP it also keeps out a lot of dust :)
Yes, I'd forgotten about it doubling as a dust shield! And bonus points for the MP-E 65, a cool lens!
But at the same time if you are changing filters then you are increasing the chances of putting more dust in.
Came for a review and got as an extra the reason on why the sky is more blue when using a polarizer 4:15. You are just to freaking awesome Gordon!!! Thanks for the review
I bought this adapter after already owning the straight barrel adapter for a few reasons:
1) while most of my lenses take a standard threaded filters, they vary in size and the cost to buy high quality 77mm and 82mm filters in CPL and various ND strengths (not using a VND in front of a wide angle lens to avoid the cross), would cost more than this adapter and both drop-ins.
2) Having both adapters means I can easily swap between them as needed. For $100 I don't need to buy the drop-in clear filter, I have the tube and it doesn't take that much more space to carry.
3) I have wide angle lenses that it's expensive and bulky to fit filters on like the Sigma 14-24 2.8 or the TS-E 17mm.
4) The space savings of carrying drop-in filters is significant. My standard filter wallet holds six filters and is 7-8" long, 4" wide, and 3/4" thick. I can't fit it in a tight Pelican case. The drop-in filters are smaller, lighter, and come in hard cases making them easier to cram into small, tight spaces.
The ability to use ND filters is great for video, where the SS is fixed and the use of wide aperture in bright light severely limited. If I'm using a Canon R for video a lot, this type of adapter would be one of my first buys.
When you use circular ND and polarizer together on an untra wide lens, it creates massive vignetting, almost uncorrectable on post processing. I think it's a great option for that purpose
I always like your product reviews, very informative.
I do have a question though with regards to the Canon with drop in ND filter. Is it true that at maximum ND setting, there's an awful color shift to blue? I'm only asking because I'm getting to purchase a Canon R8 and I need to decide which EF-RF adapter to get. I've older EF lenses from my DSLR cameras.
Thanks much.
Sadly I've not tested the nd version so can't comment. But most variable nds suffer at maximum setting
I bought the CPL adapter as it was on sale cheap at B&H. You are right about wide angle and getting the filter in the right position. Its a complete pain in the ass.
Thanks!
It would be awesome if Canon came out with an automatic electronic ND filter adapter, similar to what the Sony FS5 developed, and later on the FS7ii.
This is good use of the space between the camera and the EF lenses, however when creating video ideally you want a variable ND to be as close to off and possible from when you are indoors, and then you just turn it for when you go outside. With this you will have to carry around the case to carry the clear filter and swap it out for the ND when you need it. On an aesthetic point, I think the adaptor should be the same colour as the EF lenses, since as it matches the Camera colour at stands out as being an adaptor rather, which makes it look clunky. Plus the price point. I will stick to my 82mm variable NDs and use step up rings. An alternative is magnetic filters which I am going to explore. Thanks for the video Gordon!
Great vid man. Have you tried any of the new webcam features that canon released?
thanks for this great review. I am thinking to buy this to be able to protect the sensor when freelensing. As I understand you can change the strength of the effect. Do you think that there is no effect applied when the setting is in the minimal setting?
thanks for keeping us entertained with new content Gordon - this is a great idea for an adapter - well done canon on offering one (albeit for a huge price premium).
It's worth noting Kippon and fotodiox have offered these for over 5 years so it's not 'new' but good to see a manufacturer giving us options.
Bet you with that Park View was open :)
The Park View - and all pubs - are closed!
@@cameralabs same in somerset :(
though essential places like cider farm shops are open :)
Thx for the video dude...just a question:
when U use the adapter ring with EF lenses, is there any crop in photography?
Plz note that I have 5D mark iii, so the pics wideness is the same in both cameras?
I do like that you can use it w/ the ultra wide canon. I did think of that, too, when i saw the adapter. That would be the only reason i'd consider this version over the version with the ring.
The downside to the drop in filter version, though, is a ND Grad is far more needed than a VariableND or Polarizer...and there is no ND Grad option (and making one out of glass would make it cost prohibitive.) So, for serious filter work, you'd still need to go with a filter system anyway making this version a moot point as i see it.
However, if you get the one with the ring and de-click it, it would be great to use with a manual focus Cin-E lens to change the ISO
What does the CL filter really do?
this is really revolution
It would be interesting to compare the quality of the filters with the more expensive variable ND-filters and polarizes. If they are really good, it's actually a cheap solution if you think about the price of big high-quality filters for the large tele- lenses or huge systems for wide angle lenses.
It would also be interesting to see if there is a general difference between a filter in front and at the back of a wide angle lens. The direction of the light changes and this might have some influence on the polarizer and the nd (usually two polarizers).
The super zoom prime lenses have drop-in filters in the rear so this isn't anything new.
Looks useful, but I think it's very overpriced. The 'clear filter' at £90 is mad. A much more reasonable sale would be the adaptor with clear + polariser, or clear + ND couplings at the price for those alone at the moment.
Very curious how that may work with 360° photos shot with an 8-15 on my RP - hmmm making me think it's worth testing.
Thank you for this review. It finally answers the question I couldn't see on any Canon documentation. I might have bought this if it was compatible with the drop in filters from the super tele lenses as I already have the clear and circular polarizer for the 500mm. Picking up a neutral density version then would have been worthwhile...otherwise I already have a good assortment of filters that I can also use on other cameras/lenses.
Question for you, is it accurate what he said about having to use the clear filter when you're not using the ND? I found some €20 plastic adapters on Amazon that are designed to close the gap left behind by the drop in filter after it is removed. I don't understand how this clear filter can actually be doing anything optically. Can you confirm if it is needed or whether covering the hole so no light or dust gets in would work? Thanks
Nice, so want this but jumped on the Meike version. It was a no brainer!
I'd be interested in comparing them
HI Gordon, can I use this mount and still use my VND filters on the lens? I like that have that layer of protection on my lens LOL
Great reviw and fantastic visual examples!
Thanks!
Personally, I enjoy the heavy sky/subject contrast that a CPL can produce (ex: your Space Needle photo).
However, I’m tempted to buy the control ring version to bring back that classic ability to change the aperture right from the barrel.
Decisions decisions 🤔
I wish they had one with both! One solution is the control ring adapter with a normal polarizer on the end of the lens of course
its acually annoying and overrated. the control ring often gets truned accidentally changing your settings unknowingly there is a lock feature to prevent that but often i forget to lock and unlock. and if youre using a battery grip it renders the adapter in an obscure position that often times make you just utilize one of the dials to change aperture. i ended up just configuring the Av to the back control wheel on the body and use the control ring adapter to change white balance which i never thought id do but here i am. if youre into events youll need to chage settings drastically and quickly. but if youre into portraiture in a controlled setting then you wouldnt have this problem
Rear filters
allows using lens hoods!
Excellent points and advice raised.
Thanks!
thank you :) really helped make up my mind on which to get
Love the drop in nd filter design . I'm waiting for r5,r6. Gordan have you tested Tamron ef lenses on eos r how's the af performance in eos r?
I've tested lots of Tamron lenses, but not adapted to EOS R bodies, sorry! You can find all my lens reviews at cameralabs.com - there's loads that I don't do videos for here.
Hi, I use the Tamron 24-70 2.8 G2 lens adapted to my Eos r and works perfectly for image quality, AF, IS, etc. Only thing you don't have control over is automatic in camera correction of peripheral illumination or distortion, as canon won't support this on third party lenses.
What are the options for RF lenses? Could these adapters be user?
this is only for mounting EF lenses onto an EOS R body. RF lenses only work on EOS R bodies and can't be adapted/.
Is it possible to use other kinds of filters? IR filters? 10 stop ND filters? Spectral filters like sodium vapour filters? I know Canon doesn't sell them, but other filter manufacturers do.
In theory, if they match the filter adapter size, but I don't know if it's a new type.
Good review. I don't have a Canon R body (yet ) and whilst I use both ND and Polorizing filters very often during the year and the drop in filters look really easy to operate, the price is a bit steep. Also in practical terms I would only be using an adapter if I had just an R body and were utilizing my EF glass, ultimately I would want to buy into the native lenses and then these drop in adapters would be redundant. Of course you will realise that I am a complete fantasist, an R5 body and some prime RF glass, where's your fairy godmother when you need her most :)
Good luck tracking down that fairy godmother!
Thanks! Is the heavy Moire from the house roof by recording at 1080 or 4k?
I recorded the examples in 1080 as the EOS R crops more than I wanted in 4k. So that was probably responsible for any moire you see.
@@cameralabs Ok Thank you
Hi Gordon, I didn't get it when you talked about the added glass altered light path therefore without an insert, this adapter will affect focus. Does it apply to all EF lenses or only some? I was always under the impression that this adapter without insert(cover the opening of course) equals to the plain adapter. Could you please explain further or give some source links?
I think the rear filter impacts anything in front of it, so they may have adjusted the thickness of the adapter a little to compensate. So when you take the filter out, the distance isn't exactly right for all lenses at all focusing distances. I only tried it with two EF lenses and both had the same issue at the same respective ends of their ranges. I too assumed it would work like a normal adapter when no filter was fitted, but that wasn't the case with the two EF lenses I tried with it- and popular ones too, the EF 16-35mm f2.8 and EF 70-200mm f2.8 III versions.
@@cameralabs thanks Gordon. Bummer I was hoping it to be perfect easy one adapter solution to all. For now, it looks like a niche for those lenses can't use front filter or too expensive to buy a huge front filter, like you concluded in the video. Thank you very much for the demonstration.
Great video Gordon. I was wondering the same thing about covering the gaping hole and just using it with no filter? Do you think it would impact focussing normally for let’s say portraiture? Are you saying it only affects focussing on infinity such as with distant landscape photography?
Is this compatible with a Canon XA-40? Because I'm having trouble putting it on mine
No
I highly recommend it. Big_Time! Great video dude.
Thankyou!
So these only apply for EF lenses? That means RF need a front filter?
@@JOSEKmb Yes, we just cant have it all.
Thank you so much sir 🙏.... behalf of me and everyone who has been looking for information that can make smart and money saving desition's.... specially as photography is in itself a luxurious and quiet an expensive hobby/carrier. Our wish is for your well-being and a healthy long life Sir 🙂👍
Thanks, I wish you a long life too!
Is there an adaptor which can mount RF glass on EF mount?
Sadly not, it wouldn't work, the distances are wrong.
@Gordon: you are forgetting the biggest market for this adaptor which is the video shooters.
absolutely, but more so the ND than the polarizer, but I should have still mentioned it.
@@cameralabs with the upcoming R5 and R6 , these adaptors especially with ND are going to be very popular.
Do you know how many stops the ND filter is?
Weirdly, I can't find that information, but I'll ask directly.
According to Q&A at B&H it is 1.5 to 9 stops.
Very nice review. Thank you :-)
You're welcome!
Thanks heaps sir. Fantastic video. Loved your English. Too costly. I am better off with my Lee SW150 kit.
So cool, does anyone make one of these for EF-M to EF lenses
Canon has one that mounts EF lenses onto EF-M mount / EOS M cameras. But it doesn't have the filter option.
Nice
Great video! I was wondering if the adaptor steps down the quality. I managed to speak with Canon live chat imaging.chat/ and they explained me how everything works. The RF glass looks great ...cant wait to get some as well
Awesome service from Canon UK - I'm impressed with the level of support that they're offering their customers :)
Hah! just in time!
You're welcome!
It's incredibly tone-deaf and arrogant for the accounting department at Canon to hold hostage those who get this, as it's 100% necessary to buy the UV filter that should cost ten bucks rather than over a hundred. And that tiny little control wheel is a terrible solution for precision shooters, vulnerable to bumps and shifts during a shot. Canon needs to work this out with a second version (including a UV filter) before the R5 launch, otherwise it damages their whole brand.
I agree, a clear filter needs to be supplied, and the little wheel is a bit simple.
If you are shooting precision then making sure the CPL is in the right spot should be last of the process, no? All I see here is bitching that Canon created something g that lends use of EF lenses in a great way and allows people to have a CPL on any EF lens.
@@mikezupancic2182 Always hilarious when consumers drink the Kool-Aid from gigantic multinational capitalist corporations. No one is saying that this product is 100% bad. The "bitching" that you cannot possibly disagree with, is that they needed to include the UV filter if the product is unusable without it. Understand?
p
I'm first!!!!!
Welcome!
HAHhahaaa
CANON learn this trick from APPLE....
What trick? Using the same technology that Canon has used for 30 years?