Hey gigabeef , I tried out the stubby SA today and it was a bunch of fun , just wanted to tell you how much you’ve helped my friend get into the game and learn the mechanics . You always look at things out of the perspective of a beginner .
i pefer the long barrel barter from mechanic for 2 nixxor and a rat poison, you can sell the silencer, barrel and handguard on the flee and run the gun for pretty much free.
this shit is gonna be nerfed into the ground next wipe. that’s kinda how bsg does balancing. Make one caliber so op, and give one weapon in that calibre so much op stats that everything else looks mid or bad in comparison. Example, 7.62x39 (specifically the mutant) would be all anyone would ever use back when I still seriously played this game
For the SA-58, I prefer the OKP-7 sight because it blocks so little space on the screen As for loud vs suppressed I prefer the SA-58 on loud because oh my god does it just sound so powerful
SA58s A classic, but when it come to ergo & vertical recoil, black MDR & scar are overall better choices, which is why you see more people rocking those guns as well as the sig spear with 6.8, granted if the FAL had better overall ergo & recoil it'd be a top tier choice, i still like running it every now & then, but I'm a bit of a sig Sauer fanboi when it comes to the spear.
If anyone is like me and cannot stand the absurd muzzle flash from the BMD, just throw the riser under whatever optic you want to run. Your height over bore is a little worse, but the muzzle is significantly reduced, well worth it IMO.
BROOOOO I literally just tried one out today to do a factory to try and grind skav kills and wanted a bigger mag with decent ammo. dont quite have my best ammo unlocked so i grabbed this trade.. i was so impressed by its original ergo and then modded it slightly. took it in and was LIKE WHAAAAAAAT this is fucking amazing lol
"it's meta already it's meta it's meta!" - Sure. But some guns need to be realized for their potential at winning against teams as a solo. A lot of content creators don't focus on this aspect of how a solo player needs to gear differently to how someone on a squad is going to run, and this gun is perfect for it. Yeah, the same could be said for any gun with a decent mag size, but decent rounds for the SA-58 is fairly easy to obtain even somewhat early into wipe, modding the gun to be a decent build alongside running a full sized mag is not overly expensive (depending on how you get your blast kit), and it's even not terrible at medium ranges.
I feel like every stacked player running lvl6 plates, you just HAVE TO use either MDR with M61 or a FAL with the same round, as the spear with the Hybrid ammo just doesn't cut it, given how much lvl6 plates + lvl3 aramid can tank those Hybrid rounds. Yeah, you have to have the craft unlocked, which most people dont have, but it's worth it late wipe.
I don't know if my eyes are just bad, but I cannot handle the muzzle flash out of an un-suppressed shorty SA-58. Especially in dark environments I just lose targets, even after upgrading my PC.
Muzzle flash is always a problem for me too. I tend to use thermal sights like reap-ir and sometimes that little reflex one on smaller maps to negate it, alternatively you can use that one riser mount or mount a deltapoint on top of a scope mount and it helps a bit
It's over! With patch 0.15, the recoil drops to a maximum of 95. SA58 is over, too much recoil, the m80 is less effective, and it's no longer possible to buy the m62. Move on.
Who cares about the INSANE FAL against squads when you get killed by invisible AI scavs, making no sound, seemingly being bugged out walking in place....but in the games reality they are not, only on my end....Coming back to this crap after a month break from the game...makes me feel like I should totally give up on this big mess of a game...
And just like that FAL users cried out in terror as their mags tripled in price
90 percent of fal users want ergo so use the 30s
almost every single person uses the fal already
Yeh im not using the 50rnd mag the long 30rnd egro is just better
@@Chevalier_knightL4 bren mags ftw
joke's on y'all i have two cases of the 50s.
Brother, loud and proud SA-58 with M80 on Factory is a monster. So much fun to use
Hey gigabeef , I tried out the stubby SA today and it was a bunch of fun , just wanted to tell you how much you’ve helped my friend get into the game and learn the mechanics . You always look at things out of the perspective of a beginner .
That's because Beef himself considers himself not a great player
@@Blancinnoir Or ya know he focuses on the mechanics of the game and the way other players move to make his opinions regarding certain subjects
my favorite meta recently has been not playing the game
surefire way to avoid head eyes, that's certain!
Same.
I switched to dayz
Wow playing different games what a concept😂
I came back like last week having a lot of fun all things considered
@@alexmaurice4274 No! You should not be sharing your fun experience online!!!! You should suffer with us!
i pefer the long barrel barter from mechanic for 2 nixxor and a rat poison, you can sell the silencer, barrel and handguard on the flee and run the gun for pretty much free.
Thats just ol' reliable. 😂
Saving this for next wipe! Thank you
this shit is gonna be nerfed into the ground next wipe. that’s kinda how bsg does balancing. Make one caliber so op, and give one weapon in that calibre so much op stats that everything else looks mid or bad in comparison. Example, 7.62x39 (specifically the mutant) would be all anyone would ever use back when I still seriously played this game
For the SA-58, I prefer the OKP-7 sight because it blocks so little space on the screen
As for loud vs suppressed
I prefer the SA-58 on loud because oh my god does it just sound so powerful
I was running the juice cannon during the boss event on shoreline. Still my go to regularly
SA58s A classic, but when it come to ergo & vertical recoil, black MDR & scar are overall better choices, which is why you see more people rocking those guns as well as the sig spear with 6.8, granted if the FAL had better overall ergo & recoil it'd be a top tier choice, i still like running it every now & then, but I'm a bit of a sig Sauer fanboi when it comes to the spear.
pleasant deja vu when you realise you watched the footage live
did you really leave that S.P.E.A.R in the last raid and kept the FAL?!!
Fals being meta makes me happy
Literally the only weapon I run on Labs as a solo (sp-tarkov live-like AI). The Sig Spear cannot compete with only 25 rounds
If anyone is like me and cannot stand the absurd muzzle flash from the BMD, just throw the riser under whatever optic you want to run. Your height over bore is a little worse, but the muzzle is significantly reduced, well worth it IMO.
This gun is literally top of the list meta man what you talking
Been using it the whole wipe
I never stopped using the SA 58
Great structuring of the vid, love the format more like this. Also when wipe????
sick of the meta? use the meta!
Sick of tarkov? Take a break
@@zachrowe6271 sick of complaining about tarkov? stop talking for once.
Ever since the new recoil was added all I’ve been doing is using this gun. It is the BEST FULL AUTOMATIC WEAPON IN THE GAME!!!
Only full-power rifle cartridges are meta now
good run
BROOOOO I literally just tried one out today to do a factory to try and grind skav kills and wanted a bigger mag with decent ammo. dont quite have my best ammo unlocked so i grabbed this trade.. i was so impressed by its original ergo and then modded it slightly. took it in and was LIKE WHAAAAAAAT this is fucking amazing lol
I just cant get over the muzzle flash :( reminds me of early wipe ppsh, spray and pray
As a .308 enjoyer, I am very happy with this.
dont sleep on bcp for all those lvl 15's out there.
Has this been patched out? I can't use the CASV-FAL foregrip with 11" barrel...
"it's meta already it's meta it's meta!" - Sure. But some guns need to be realized for their potential at winning against teams as a solo. A lot of content creators don't focus on this aspect of how a solo player needs to gear differently to how someone on a squad is going to run, and this gun is perfect for it. Yeah, the same could be said for any gun with a decent mag size, but decent rounds for the SA-58 is fairly easy to obtain even somewhat early into wipe, modding the gun to be a decent build alongside running a full sized mag is not overly expensive (depending on how you get your blast kit), and it's even not terrible at medium ranges.
In preparation of next wipe, what would be the earliest I can rock this bad boy ?
Ppsh on 71 round mag. 1000 rpm is melting everybody. Cheap ammo. Alwyas back
@@TDILMAN100 🤮🤮🤮
@@sieghart367 well them spear...
If you ask me, it was never a comeback. FAL never left ! :-)
Stop telling people about my special guns haha
At 28:08 when you encounter the player, you have a frame where a voiceline appears on the bottom can you explain?
Excuse me sir... otherwise known as the JUICE CANNON
sick of the meta!!! (puts the third best gun available)
tbh I don't see anyone using it
@@Gigabeef everyone and their mother uses it.
all I see is MDR and Spear - must have just missed 'em in my raids I guess
Shhhh nobody caught on yet
JUCE CANNNON
What is the website he uses to see the stats of all the suppressors when showing the build?
I use my own sheets but try db4tarkov.com/gun as this has the combos in the weapon builder
I cant use it to save the life of me, SA58. I either miss or seems like it does no damage
Neat
Waaas this nerfed? I'm seeing this exact build sitting at 101 vert recoil
My favourite gun in Arena Breakout.
I feel like every stacked player running lvl6 plates, you just HAVE TO use either MDR with M61 or a FAL with the same round, as the spear with the Hybrid ammo just doesn't cut it, given how much lvl6 plates + lvl3 aramid can tank those Hybrid rounds.
Yeah, you have to have the craft unlocked, which most people dont have, but it's worth it late wipe.
Why no one talks about the WAR 762 supressor ?
Which one?
Have anyone realising that MDR and Scar-H has been kinda on the weak side this wipe?
I don't know if my eyes are just bad, but I cannot handle the muzzle flash out of an un-suppressed shorty SA-58. Especially in dark environments I just lose targets, even after upgrading my PC.
Muzzle flash is always a problem for me too. I tend to use thermal sights like reap-ir and sometimes that little reflex one on smaller maps to negate it, alternatively you can use that one riser mount or mount a deltapoint on top of a scope mount and it helps a bit
@@Dizzekea bit....
This gun is definitely meta ngl
Lol after like the 12th comment of this nature I've changed it 😂 I really don't see anyone using it in my raids but I guess I'm wrong on this one lmao
@@GigabeefIt’s def meta with m62. She barks.
@@Gigabeef this is my factory go to it rate of fire with it recoil and the bullets it uses, destroys literally everything
Streamers finally realising fal and mcx are good now
Mcx blows the ammo doesnt
@@pokemasterhamertime77 ??????? CBJ is goated, hello?
SA-58 > MDR
M61 loaded is the king
the meta is waiting for the next wipe hah
or PvE mode lol
I really wish they would make drums as unreliable and jamtastic as they are in reality. Using them should be a risk.
It's over! With patch 0.15, the recoil drops to a maximum of 95. SA58 is over, too much recoil, the m80 is less effective, and it's no longer possible to buy the m62. Move on.
Who cares about the INSANE FAL against squads when you get killed by invisible AI scavs, making no sound, seemingly being bugged out walking in place....but in the games reality they are not, only on my end....Coming back to this crap after a month break from the game...makes me feel like I should totally give up on this big mess of a game...
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