Boss Analysis # 24
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- There was a time when I couldn't stop talking about the bosses I hated the most in this series, but I soon wanted to balance things out with more positivity. Well, now that it's been so long, how about we return to being misery guts again?
When upping the difficulty of a game, it's important to not go too far; be careful not to make certain enemies inflict too much damage, give them too much health, that sort of thing. If only someone told that to the creators of Streets of Rage 3...
A continuation of this video can be seen here: • Boss Analysis Extra # 1
Jet's baldness gave him more power. He exchanged the hair for more life bars.
Saitama, anyone?
TheArcadeStriker Jet is just a boss for fun.
One punch jet
TheArcadeStriker
Sigma, as well.
@@ArcadeStriker Well, Jet's best attack IS a punch so...
I heard the reason lot of Japanese games for the NES and SNES became harder in the west is due to the rental system. You couldn't rent games in Japan like in western countries, so some of the games became harder in order to prevent consumers from beating it in a single weekend.
the villains
+fingrid
I'm sure that's how it happened, but do you have any evidence for these numbers?
I thought it was because the Japanese games were ported to the west later on more advanced systems, so while the games played slower on Japanese systems, they were sped up on western systems. There was also that translation issue where the hints Japanese players had to find powerful items and defeat bosses in games were mistranslated. Also, the process of porting games could often make glitches appear and have unintended side effects that weren't tested or fixed that would increase the difficulty of the games. Even eviler is that the western gamers would complain about how the Japanese games were too hard, the Japanese would laugh because to the the games were easy and they actually made the games more difficult because of their pride and desire for a 'challenge'. So, games that were intended to be difficult to satisfy the Japanese became nightmarish when ported to western systems a year or even a few months later.
and yet we didn't get the Lost levels or Earthbound
That's also the reason for that DAMNED "newbs who play on easy don't get to see the good ending" bullshit.
I guess this is why Bare Knuckle changed its name to Streets of Rage in the international release. It was designed to make players rage.
Silver Rook git needs to pin this
and also to throw the cartridge at the streets
kinda makes me appreciate how much of Jet's shenanigans got fixed on the unofficial SoR Remake....
even the soundtrack doesn't feel like a train-wreck.
Pun intended?
Damn, I actually liked "Crazy Train" (Jet's SOR3 Boss Theme), but I get your point. At least his design looks way better.
When I was 10, I couldn't beat this boss with the 9 lives cheat AND 3 continues.
8:20 Zan can chain his down-air attack on Jet, but you need precise timing.
Fun Fact: Using Level Select, it's actually possible to fight Jet on Easy difficulty. And even on SOR3's lowest difficutly he already has 3 lifebars!
Hey I liked that song too
I got used to the pain and SOR3 Jet became one of my favorite bosses. Because he's so damn hard.
I enjoy it. Sounds pretty cool at 50% speed also
I personally think ideal balanced settings would be:
Very Hard:
Boss - same health as SOR3's hard. But Bald Jet's healthbar should be 6 not 7. (Because in BK3, he has less health compared to Robot X). Yamato's healthbar should be 3 and half not 4. And first round Shiva's healthbar should be the same as BK3's since BK3's one has little higher healthbar.
Non boss - same number as SOR3's hard, and same health as BK3's very hard. (Because SOR3 has more numbers and BK3 has more health)
Hard:
Boss - same health as SOR3's normal boss. But Bald Jet's healthbar should be 60% of one life lower than Robot X. Also Yamato's healthbar should be 2 and half.
Non boss - same number as SOR3's normal and same health as BK3's hard
Normal:
Boss - same health as BK3's very hard. Shiva's healthbar should be BK3's normal.
Non boss - same number as SOR3's easy and same health as BK3's normal
Easy
Boss - same health as BK3's easy. (Because in BK3, difference between boss health for hard and very hard is very small. Same for hard and normal, normal and easy_
Non boss - BK3's easy
And penalizes you for choosing easy and game ends in 5th stage.
Lazy Hard Boss Design's Template:
- Have 1~2 move(s)
- Ridiculously high HP
- Hit like a truck
Lazy and cheap. The designers will not pass From Software's school of tough and fair difficulty design.
@@MarsofAritia Complain about the exceptions to the rules, why don't you. Also, the entirety of Dark Souls 2 is an exception, most of its bosses suck.
for those who are wondering why couldn't Git just lower the difficulty in SoR3 since he hated the long health boss so much its because in the american version of SoR3,they made so that you could only get to the true final levels on the harder difficulties.
I love Git's opinion-based videos like these for some reason.
I like to imagine Jet saying to the Rockets:
"HE'S GOT ME YOU IDIOTS! DO SOMETHING!"
Right before a Rocket gets bitchslapped.
All the help of a cartoon villain's henchmen. "Scratch! Grounder! YOU NINCOMBOTS!"
It reminded me of Blaze's clones in SOR 1....i never got passed them.
5:35
You've probably inspired and animator to make an animation of two mice having a heated arguement with each other about politics and it uses Jet's music.
A lot of Japanese games released in the west were made to be more difficult because of the western branches of the publishing companies having a huge hate-on for the rental market until about 94-95. Since unlike Japan, it was not seen as illegal to rent video games in most parts of the world, they bolstered up the difficulty as one of the ways to combat American rental store franchises like Blockbuster, Movie Gallery, and Hollywood Video. I don't know what the rental market in the UK and EU were like back then, or even if there were similar concerns, but it was usually the American branches of companies like Sega, Nintendo, Capcom, Konami and others that usually dictated how the game was going to end up in both the Americas and Europe.
Those US-indented difficulty spikes would end up being standard for many PAL releases unless the European branches of the same companies were talking to the Japanese heads specifically as well. So unless Sega was receiving complaints from gamers and critics in Japan that BK3 was too easy, my guess was that they jumped into that same bandwagon for a few releases to make SoR3 as difficult as possible in an attempt to curb rental sales of it.
Baldy Jet's level is also a pain in the arse. You have to find and disarm 2 bombs hidden on certain rooms and save the general/chief of police, fighting against some of the most annoying minor enemies in the game (jumping robots with ranged attacks and blockers) and a frickin' TIME LIMIT (2 time limits if you count the always present one). If you fail, you take constant damage until you find the exit, not to mention, no good ending for you. And then, after you complete those objetives, you have to fight this guy. Of course Adam shows up right in the end, just to spray some bullets and deal with the already finished enemies. Thanks dude, we're glad we saved you last game! jk Adam is the best.
Seriously, this level is stress incarnate from the beggining to the end.
Me after seeing the intro: Git has become Takumi
Nightmare Cookie Fire Emblem: Fates character
The bearer of the Fujin Yumi, eh?
The sheer horror of Takumi, especially in FE Heroes.
Silver Rook Get Blue Robin, He's not so scary anymore.
Undertale On the surface Takumi is a top-tier archer with the ability to counter at close range, so people hate him and are forced to treat him almost like a boss character.
OH my god you put in METEOS music!! I love you so much, that game deserves so much more respect.
Cheyenne Cyr Glad someone else recognized it. I cannot remember to which planet it belongs
Edit: Now i remember, it was Magmor or Jeljel (not to confuse with Pokémon)
Fiery Gobblegut was a pain in my gobblebutt.
What about regular Gobblegut in the Prankster Comet?
Yep.
Agreed, he sucks.
Man, your videos are so good, really, hope you keep doing this for a long time, quality job here; thanks to you i have discovered many good videogames i didn't even know existed, so thank you and keep enterteining us like you always do Git :D
thank for coming up with more videos
I always forget about Lub Lub and nearly go to watch a different vid before I remember.
12:00
The enemies fall down over and over again because they forgot to change the machine gun damage for the cutscene to match the enemies’ higher health, so the just had it hit multiple times in a row.
Well that’s my hypothesis, anyways.
Despite the flaws I still really like this game. Hardcore ftw
I would always abuse Shiva's rising axe kick in this fight. It's damaging and kicks all the jetpackers out of their rocket-boosting attacks. If you time it right and keep your distance, they just run into your foot over and over until death.
I used to play these games way more than anyone should admit. I'd search for various secrets and removed features to hack in. Was pretty successful in doing so, actually. Needless to say, I played it enough to remember some useless trivia.
I thought I remembered it being possible to fight Jet one on one, so I went back and double checked. The Rockets will stop spawning if you defeat 10 of them. Now, whether it's worth the effort to do that...uhh, probably not unless you desperately need points to improve your rush attack.
Shiva was my favorite character in SOR 3. As for the music.... ugh. Let's just say my friends and I muted the TV and put in our Mix tape of recorded SOR and SOR 2 soundtrack. Now that I found something that will work on JET maybe just maybe I can beat the US release after all these years. The boss fights in it are infuriating!
YAY! MORE WITG!
Ah yes, the real final boss of SOR3. I've played a lot of beat-em-ups and Jet has to be the hardest boss in any of them. He also has a arsenal of moves unlike SOR2 Jet, including rising up to do a charge, then quickly dropping down and doing a flamethrower to catch you off guard. Deploying flying mines, double charges, that rolling move that does half your health on Hard, Jet is a real piece of work.
I don't like using infinites so I found the best thing is to take advantage of the massively reduced health penalty in SOR3 for using a special without a full bar. Spam special moves because for all characters except Blaze you're fully invincible when using one.
I like baldy jet's ost, but it suits more a fight where you have to defeat quicker than you can the boss, not like him that if you don't use these tactics, you have to fight him for too much time
Jet's 2 helpers look like the original Jet. The bald Jet looks like a different person.
the original jet was a lieutenant, so it makes sense
9:45 Jet uses heels...
12:03 I assume that's because they have more health than Japanese version's very hard.
That machine gun must've programmed to take same amount of damage as Japanese version's very hard, so they just don't die.
The SoR3 difficulty boost is such a pain. Even the NA "easy" mode is about as hard as SoR2's normal mode, and even with 2 players I was only barely able to make it to the fake ending on stage 5.
I don't know how anyone can play this game, I got game over only on the second stage!
When returning home I thought: "I need more boss analysis"
Thank you
For people who don't know, the infinite punch also works in sor2 and is more effective
R. Bear from SoR 2 is pretty annoying as well
PunkDisciple23 nah he’s just hard but I see what you are going about
Fuck his uppercut counter though
EDIT: The Green R.Bear in the final stage can end his life as well.
Zamza. FUCKING.....ZAMZA
@@CloudLucisCaelumCXV Zamza needs to rot in hell
Correct
saitama sumulator ?
consecutive normal punches for the win :D
Really scary guy? Who's th- oh wait.
@Sega Starbits One of the creepy bad ending videos was on a game with an awful English translation. Really scary guy is a reference to when one of the less courageous characters calls themself that.
Jet is not only bald but thanks to Shiva, he now suffers from an even more extreme case of "A lack of testicleitis".
7:20 that earrape doe
So there is a boss you hate more than Sullivan or whatever his name is from DR2. I hate writing his name down, because it feels like I'm comparing him to Sullivan from Uncharted.
Hey
HEY
Crazy Train(Jet's Theme)is cool sounding,don't bash it!D:<
Although,i'll give you a slight pass for that,because you made the funniest remark ever because of that piece of music XD
This boss caught both me and my friend off guard when we went from beating SOR2 to playing SOR3 for the first time and using a code to get to this boss stage. We could barely hit it despite being on the easiest difficulty, and now I see why SOR3 isn't that well liked.
o my god my eyes werent ready for the sight that is Ash holy shit thats just rude capcom
It's a good thing that Jet wasn't in Streets of Rage 1. Could you imagine him taking 1/3 of your health with every hit?
Am I the only one who noticed the intro music is Jeljel's win theme followed by Jeljel's lose theme from Meteos
How do you play as Ash and Shiva?
You can only play as Ash in SoR3 with a cheat device code, and you can play as Shiva by holding B after defeating him at the end of stage 1 then selecting him when continuing. But if you want to play as him from the start, there's also a code to play as him.
The bells, the bells...
Really Really Scary Guy is pretty scary though.
5:34 I'm laughing so damn hard hahahahahafahfhaahahaaha x'DDDDDD
Sometimes the 3 Level Power-Up is useful too, but yes, Shiva and Ash are very gamebreaking
In SOR2 I use the strategy "Throw bullshit in bullshit" I can use the enemies are "weapon" throw him in the Jets
make a boss anaylisys on the final boss of crash bandicoot 2 NOW.
Jet was pesky enough in 2, I can't imagine how much trouble he is there.
OH MY GOD!!! I hated this boss. Even with another player or set to easy mode this was a difficulty spike from hell. >:(
I mean these bosses from the Streets of Rage series.
"It's been a while since I vented my spleen on my most despised bossed, and I though it was high time I re-visited the subject."
But your video about Manfred von Karma wasn't so long ago.
Note: Sega made the us version harder since they thought we would beat the game while we had rented streets of rage 3
you remand me 25 years ago ..
Uh oh...
Time Warner Cable changed their name after years and years!?
Spectrum!?
Now Ticktockia will no longer make sense!!
You should include the Stage 6 Save The Chief of Police and defeat Robot Y controlled by Mr. X's brain in True Stage 7 from SoR3 as Creepy Time Limits.
You should also cover the 4 endings (though there is only 3 endings in BK3).
Cover the four endings? It was the very first CBE episode. But as for the level, yeah, I forgot about what a nightmare it could be, and it wasn't much better in the remake either.
Lol you should try the Streets of Rage remake where Jet can grab you from 3 feet away and jump attacks don't counter him unless you have superior height advantage
I swear I remember Axel having a white shirt!
He did, in the Japanese version. The American port changed his palette
Hell yeah, you're using the same method as i used to beat this boss. Didn't know about the rear back attack to be so useful there.
One question, Ash is playable on western version? I taught he was censored?
Ash is playable only with a cheat device
Hang on.
The sounds/music played in the intro were from the lava planet in _Meteos_.
Am I correct?
You can actually beat so many of the Rocket enemies that none will re spawn. But the question really is whether it's worth it or not.
Hey, they don't call it Streets of "Rage" for nothing.
Jet is really easy actually , just jump kick in place and he will get hit everytime. The ones from SOR3 though .. are a nightmare
I just got SoRRv5 and i think Crazy Train (bald jet's theme) is worse there than here, sure the remix is okay but you need to listen to it.
its sounds like a pair of mice having a heated argument with each other over politics
Gremlin from Breath Of Fire 1 is hated by many. Here is one thing to say when you get to him. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Gremlin is the sort of enemy who would shoot your cat in front of you and if you don't have one, he will buy one for you, and then shoot in front of you.
5:35 I lol'd SO hard xD
Um... is it just me? Or does Jet's face avatar look like a pixelated Jak?
Will you talk about Meteos? For example, what do you think of Eumeteo (True Meteo)?
Maybe at some point in the near future.
Streets of Rage!
How about for Streets of Rage 3, they increased everyone's attack power and speed instead of hit points?
finally found an easy way to beat him in SoR3
I kinda like jets theme ngl
Hey Git, did you know that a few years ago, an independent team of developers from Spain made a remake of the entire Streets of Rage trilogy in one game? With a new engine, a playable Mr. X, SoR1/2/3 variants of all available main characters, several new game modes, a level editor, and much more?
It should be available on woc.brawlersavenue.net/main.htm as soon as their servers are back up but if you are interested and want to give it a try, please let me know, I have their latest version of the game on a web server set and ready to play!
Time to play Bare Knuckle three for me
So... I guess this qualifies you for that "Streets of Rage God" status you mentioned?
so Ash...
He's supposed to be a gay guy, isn't he?
I think the proper term is homosexual.
But yes he is.
The game should have had combos like tekken you just uppercut and fart.
Streets of *_Rage_*
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Wankey hes harder on HGSS
I have to ask: How in the hell did you get so many lives in Streets of Rage 2? How is that even possible?
That's what I call a challenging and unfair game.
YAY UR BAK
a git video? neat.
Yeah, 7 Health Bars is ridiculous.
But you want to know what's even more ridiculous? FIFTY HEALTH BARS!
Trust me, you are NOT going to like Yiazmat from Final Fantasy 12 if even 7 health bars is too much for you.
Blazing Larvesta and they all have one million hp
All
Fifty
Of
Them
Yiazmat has 50 million hp btw.
This is why I don't want to play the Streets series lol
I freaking hate jet with all my heart.
The worst thing about this boss fight is the music -_-
The reason SOR3 is so much harder in the west is simple.
MONEY.
In the arcades, it was designed to leech money off of microtransactions and/or killing players a lot. Yes, you could buy weapons and items in the arcade version by putting another quarter in the slot while at a shop. It also made it a lot harder to beat while renting it, encouraging players to buy the game just to beat it.
So basically modern EA.
Except it's not an arcade game.
Arcades? I only dreamed sega would've made an arcade versions of SOR 1 2 and 3 that would've been godly
Who's Otis again? That one REEAAALLLY annoying endboss from Dead Rising 2?
No, Otis is the janitor in the first game. Does the annoying phone calls which leave you helpless. (The second game's end boss is Sullivan)
is git brit?
NekoBushyBushy KuuNyan Yes
Why would they put a boss like in the game it seems really annoying
My Little Pony argument*
Four words:
That boss looks horrible
Blaze the Cat hi!