I am an Airbus fan boy! But please wait for it…. The 767 was without a doubt one of my most favourite planes. I used to travel on them frequently with both British Airways & Kenya Airways. I really liked the 2-3-2 and business seats. So many good memories of me flying to see my family. They always felt so safe and rugged. A true workhorse. I love the A330 and have flown them many times with KLM and also went on the 767’s they replaced. But even I have to admit the 767 had something the A330 did not . I only wish Boeing still made planes like this (the 757 was a little gem as well, but that’s another storey).
I flew Delta's B767-400 ER and I absolutely loved it. The flight was super comfortable & was more spacious too due to the 2-3-2 sitting in economy class. While the aircraft itself was 27 years old , Delta has refurbished a lot of their old planes & has kept them top notch ever since. Highly recommend flying them with Delta!!
Only flew Hawaiian's 767's back in the late 90's and early 2000's. Very comfortable when our family of 6-8 were travelling 2X2. Always had a window or aisle.
The 767 looks are the most pleasing - nicely proportioned, not too big. The 2-3-2 seating is ideal from a passenger's perspective, although the airline bean counters might think it inefficient.
definitely - 2-3-2 and 2-4-2 are THE BEST widebody seating configurations. Sad that we might not be seeing them much in the future, as all dreamliners are 3-3-3 now and some airlines are starting to fit their A330s with 3-3-3 as well.
the "double excuse me" is definitely annoying for window seat passanger... but airlines keeps pushing the limit of seating arrangement.. A330/A340 or B787 was designed for 2-4-2 but pushed to 3-3-3, even B777 was designed as 3-3-3 is pushed to 3-4-3... even there was a time a 747 seating of 3-4-3 is pushed to 3-5-3 🤦
I spent about 8 years flying the 75/76 for Delta. I flew the 76-200, -300 and -300 ER. The -200 was affectionately called "the dump truck". It flew like one. The -300 was better mannered and the -300ER had more power and the smooth FADEC (fully automated digital engine controls) engines. I really enjoyed flying it. When the -300 ERs would come in from Europe, they would do a quick maintenance check and send them to the west coast for another check. I flew loads of trans-cons on them. Lightly loaded for the relatively short flight to the west coast I often saw 500 kts TAS with over 4,000 FPM climb through FL 270 (about 27,000'). Great flying, but the 75 was a bit more fun. The 76 was the Cadillac, the 75 the Ferrari.
I've been lucky to work on the 767-300ER as a flight attendant, and what a pleasure it was. Despite the age (29 years on some models), it was powerful, reliable and comfortable to work on… I miss it
The 767 family is the one I've flown on the most. That's been split between the 200ER and 300ER. I've flown on the 200ER with EL AL on a few occasions (1998, 1999, 2009) when they still operated the YYZ-TLV route. The rest of my 767 flights were on the 763ER with EL AL (2009, 2017), Air Canada (2004, 2012), and most recently, Japan Airlines from NRT-YVR on the way home from a trip to Thailand two years ago.
I love your channel. Thank you for not using AI. I do not know the specifics of how it works but I think it's a real hack job when other channels use it instead of a physical narrator. It can't be that hard even if someone has to type up a script to just go ahead and read it. It is definitely more pleasing to listen to. Once again, I love your content. Keep going. Thank you!
Flew on Elal 767-300ER, 4X-EAP, 4X-EAL and 4X-EAJ, EAL was the newest in the fleet and EAJ was the oldest. Although the cabin was outdated, the legroom in Y was very good. In fact, until now, I couldn't find any aircraft that could beat it.
I flew on ACs 767s on a number of ocassions (-200ER and -300ER) and my god were they so comfortable! A bit loud, but the 2-3-2 seat arangement was seriously underrated at the time.
YES! YES, I’ve been a avid subscriber since 2020, you taught me everything I know, and turned me from a kid who draws (poor) airplanes to a real Avgeek. Thank you so much Simple Flying! This video about the 767 brings back memories…
For a moment, I thought the title referred to variants that only carried 5 passengers. Shouldn’t check RUclips before I’ve had my coffee. My dad worked in aviation. His company made relays used on the 757 & 767, so when I was 16, we got to go up to Everett to see the rollout of both planes back in ‘81. Later, we got a tour of the factory floor and got to go inside an unfinished 767. Great memories.
What would be a nice icing on the cake is to expand on the 300 / 300ER series and go through the various door configurations that were offered to different customers; e.g. BA vs AA with their 3x Type A doors + 1 Type B vs 2 Type A + 2 overwing exits. Quite impressed with their range. First flew on one in 1994 between LAX and LHR in a single shot with UA.
I've never flown them but I work at an airport where I have refuelled all 3 basic models. The -200 is cute and stubby, the -300 is perfectly sized, and the -400 is my favorite variant of all three. Its long and elegant.
I flew to Lusaka from Heathrow and back twice in 2006 and 2007 on a Boeing 767. I have happy memories of my time in Zambia so I associate the 767 with happy memories. Now that I think of it, I flew on the Nairobi to Amsterdam route with Kenya Airways so that could have been a 767 or 777.
Looks like simple flying forgot to mention that the 767-400s were delivered to Delta and Continental which. The continental 767-400 later transferred ownership to United after ther merge in 2010.
I was fortunate to have flown on a Qantas 767 back in 2011 on a domestic flight in Australia. I also flew on a WestJet 767 in 2019 from Barcelona to Toronto. The 767 is a perfect size widebody aircraft for a lot of carriers, a role now taken by the 787-8. Can't wait for Boeing to build an NMA. They will sell at least a thousand units.
Those West Jet 767,s were actually from Qantas West Jet got them to use on the Toronto to England route they had a lot of problems with the them Qantas was actually the only airline that had an engineer station up front for a 3 man crew when the went to West Jet the made them into a 2 man cockpit they say that after they took the engineers station out there was room for a pool table 😅
@@sainnt yea they only got the used Qantas planes because there 787 Dreamliners weren't ready from Boeing for about a year soon as they got them they got rid of the 767 .s
@@desk-kun No. A) that doesn't exist as 767 and b) it would even as a private jet make absolutely 0 sense. There is no '5 passenger' version. Sadly, with comments under SF content you can not tell what is the intend of the OP lol😅
Much appreciated as the video itself only increases our knowledge base for I'll admit that the 767 is one aircraft model I struggled with in terms of model line. The only gripe is that the video didn't specify engine types for the 767...otherwise great info and thanks❤
I think it is unfair to not mention the Airbus A300 at all... that jet was the first twin wide body launching in the mid 70s, at in my opinion the 767 is a reaction to the A300. Just because the A300 was not initially accepted, it was first, flight with European carriers, and first with Eastern overseas in the US.
Only flew twice on the 767, first time probably in 1991 on a 300ER with Canadian Airlines (defunt) and the second time on 1992/12/17 with Air France in another 300ER. It didn't leave a mark, so I assume it was just another regular flight. Both flights were from Paris (CDG) to Mirabel (YMQ).
I wish other manufacturers other than Boeing and Airbus developed a middle-of-the-market plane. While the B767 and A300 were fantastic, they were 50 years old at this point. That being said, the B767 had one of the most engine options among commercial jets. From the old school JT9D to the new PW series engines, it’s obvious that domestic carriers and cargo guys LOVE these babies.
767-400 er was never delivered to Yonited Continental and Deltar were the delivery recipients after Malaysian didn’t take delivery hence all 400’s have N……..MH as tail series
I was surprised to learn about the -400ER variant, that came at a time when Boeing was developing the 777. Didn’t they expect some cannibalization of sales between the two?
The 300 ER is such a great airplane to fly. Its prefect niche market has no replacement. I wish Boeing made a narrow body 787 short variant. From Pilot perspective, it would be amazing for the Airline. They just get a whole bunch of the same plane with very different missions.
Boeing also wanted to make a 767 partial double decker. Essentially slapping a 757 fuselage on top of the 767. Similar to the 747, but with the "hump" towards the back, instead of at the front. The project was scrapped because nobody wanted it.
That's actually not true. It was one of the early concepts for the 777 programme. But the airlines wanted a plane bigger than the 767 but smaller than the 747.
It would have been a good platform to attach the GENX-2B to. Now that production is halting in 2027, hopefully the -2B has enough thrust to power an A330NEO without necessitating a revised -3B variant.
It will be my first time flying on a 767-300ER from JFK-Madrid Anyone know if they’re bumpy or loud ? The only other wide bodies I’ve been on are the airbus 330s and the 777-300 which was a beast !!
i actually like the 777 over the 767.the 767 is still great though.but it isnt completely overshadowed.we all know that 777 is too big to compete with a a330.that is where the 767 comes in
The B-767 series airplanes are my all time Boeing favorites! Very stable, particularly in turbulence, made for a very comfortable ride! They were never surpassed by the following Boeing, the B-777 was a big disappointment for me, as the B-787!!! Only Airbus made much more comfortable airplane s!….
The 767 is still one of the most underrated commercial jets. A workhorse that never truly got the recognition it deserves.
I am an Airbus fan boy! But please wait for it…. The 767 was without a doubt one of my most favourite planes. I used to travel on them frequently with both British Airways & Kenya Airways. I really liked the 2-3-2 and business seats. So many good memories of me flying to see my family. They always felt so safe and rugged. A true workhorse. I love the A330 and have flown them many times with KLM and also went on the 767’s they replaced. But even I have to admit the 767 had something the A330 did not . I only wish Boeing still made planes like this (the 757 was a little gem as well, but that’s another storey).
I flew Delta's B767-400 ER and I absolutely loved it. The flight was super comfortable & was more spacious too due to the 2-3-2 sitting in economy class. While the aircraft itself was 27 years old , Delta has refurbished a lot of their old planes & has kept them top notch ever since. Highly recommend flying them with Delta!!
Only flew Hawaiian's 767's back in the late 90's and early 2000's. Very comfortable when our family of 6-8 were travelling 2X2. Always had a window or aisle.
same here; flew in one from PHX to HNL and back in May-June 2017
The 767 looks are the most pleasing - nicely proportioned, not too big. The 2-3-2 seating is ideal from a passenger's perspective, although the airline bean counters might think it inefficient.
definitely - 2-3-2 and 2-4-2 are THE BEST widebody seating configurations. Sad that we might not be seeing them much in the future, as all dreamliners are 3-3-3 now and some airlines are starting to fit their A330s with 3-3-3 as well.
the "double excuse me" is definitely annoying for window seat passanger... but airlines keeps pushing the limit of seating arrangement.. A330/A340 or B787 was designed for 2-4-2 but pushed to 3-3-3, even B777 was designed as 3-3-3 is pushed to 3-4-3... even there was a time a 747 seating of 3-4-3 is pushed to 3-5-3 🤦
I spent about 8 years flying the 75/76 for Delta. I flew the 76-200, -300 and -300 ER. The -200 was affectionately called "the dump truck". It flew like one. The -300 was better mannered and the -300ER had more power and the smooth FADEC (fully automated digital engine controls) engines. I really enjoyed flying it. When the -300 ERs would come in from Europe, they would do a quick maintenance check and send them to the west coast for another check. I flew loads of trans-cons on them. Lightly loaded for the relatively short flight to the west coast I often saw 500 kts TAS with over 4,000 FPM climb through FL 270 (about 27,000'). Great flying, but the 75 was a bit more fun. The 76 was the Cadillac, the 75 the Ferrari.
I've been lucky to work on the 767-300ER as a flight attendant, and what a pleasure it was. Despite the age (29 years on some models), it was powerful, reliable and comfortable to work on… I miss it
I used to work 28 years on 767-300ER. It was a remarkable aircraft. DC 10-30ER was also one of my favorites.
The 767 family is the one I've flown on the most. That's been split between the 200ER and 300ER. I've flown on the 200ER with EL AL on a few occasions (1998, 1999, 2009) when they still operated the YYZ-TLV route. The rest of my 767 flights were on the 763ER with EL AL (2009, 2017), Air Canada (2004, 2012), and most recently, Japan Airlines from NRT-YVR on the way home from a trip to Thailand two years ago.
I love your channel. Thank you for not using AI. I do not know the specifics of how it works but I think it's a real hack job when other channels use it instead of a physical narrator. It can't be that hard even if someone has to type up a script to just go ahead and read it. It is definitely more pleasing to listen to. Once again, I love your content. Keep going. Thank you!
Thanks! We really appreciate our narrator Matthew. He’s been with us 4 years now and we can’t imagine the channels without him!
Flew on Elal 767-300ER, 4X-EAP, 4X-EAL and 4X-EAJ, EAL was the newest in the fleet and EAJ was the oldest.
Although the cabin was outdated, the legroom in Y was very good. In fact, until now, I couldn't find any aircraft that could beat it.
I flew on ACs 767s on a number of ocassions (-200ER and -300ER) and my god were they so comfortable! A bit loud, but the 2-3-2 seat arangement was seriously underrated at the time.
YES! YES, I’ve been a avid subscriber since 2020, you taught me everything I know, and turned me from a kid who draws (poor) airplanes to a real Avgeek. Thank you so much Simple Flying! This video about the 767 brings back memories…
For a moment, I thought the title referred to variants that only carried 5 passengers. Shouldn’t check RUclips before I’ve had my coffee.
My dad worked in aviation. His company made relays used on the 757 & 767, so when I was 16, we got to go up to Everett to see the rollout of both planes back in ‘81. Later, we got a tour of the factory floor and got to go inside an unfinished 767. Great memories.
What would be a nice icing on the cake is to expand on the 300 / 300ER series and go through the various door configurations that were offered to different customers; e.g. BA vs AA with their 3x Type A doors + 1 Type B vs 2 Type A + 2 overwing exits. Quite impressed with their range. First flew on one in 1994 between LAX and LHR in a single shot with UA.
I've never flown them but I work at an airport where I have refuelled all 3 basic models. The -200 is cute and stubby, the -300 is perfectly sized, and the -400 is my favorite variant of all three. Its long and elegant.
I flew to Lusaka from Heathrow and back twice in 2006 and 2007 on a Boeing 767. I have happy memories of my time in Zambia so I associate the 767 with happy memories. Now that I think of it, I flew on the Nairobi to Amsterdam route with Kenya Airways so that could have been a 767 or 777.
I have flown on so many AA 767s across the Atlantic I’ve lost count 😂 but what a great aircraft 👍
Looks like simple flying forgot to mention that the 767-400s were delivered to Delta and Continental which. The continental 767-400 later transferred ownership to United after ther merge in 2010.
I was fortunate to have flown on a Qantas 767 back in 2011 on a domestic flight in Australia.
I also flew on a WestJet 767 in 2019 from Barcelona to Toronto. The 767 is a perfect size widebody aircraft for a lot of carriers, a role now taken by the 787-8.
Can't wait for Boeing to build an NMA. They will sell at least a thousand units.
Those West Jet 767,s were actually from Qantas West Jet got them to use on the Toronto to England route they had a lot of problems with the them Qantas was actually the only airline that had an engineer station up front for a 3 man crew when the went to West Jet the made them into a 2 man cockpit they say that after they took the engineers station out there was room for a pool table 😅
@@ronparrish6666Great story! 😂
No issues on my WestJet flight though...just no inflight entertainment of any sort, otherwise an ok flight
@@sainnt yea they only got the used Qantas planes because there 787 Dreamliners weren't ready from Boeing for about a year soon as they got them they got rid of the 767 .s
I was waiting for the variant that carried five passengers only
Elaborate please
@@EuropeanRailfan-AMprobably a Boeing business jet?
@@desk-kunmaybe 🤷♂️
@@desk-kun No. A) that doesn't exist as 767 and b) it would even as a private jet make absolutely 0 sense. There is no '5 passenger' version. Sadly, with comments under SF content you can not tell what is the intend of the OP lol😅
Much appreciated as the video itself only increases our knowledge base for I'll admit that the 767 is one aircraft model I struggled with in terms of model line. The only gripe is that the video didn't specify engine types for the 767...otherwise great info and thanks❤
First time I flew on the 767, was with Hawaiian back in 2012 and then again this year with Delta.
Air Canada is putting the 767’s back in service and some my go back to Rouge
The 767-400ER was NOT purchased by United however UA did acquire them as a result of the merger with Continental.
I think it is unfair to not mention the Airbus A300 at all... that jet was the first twin wide body launching in the mid 70s, at in my opinion the 767 is a reaction to the A300. Just because the A300 was not initially accepted, it was first, flight with European carriers, and first with Eastern overseas in the US.
Only flew twice on the 767, first time probably in 1991 on a 300ER with Canadian Airlines (defunt) and the second time on 1992/12/17 with Air France in another 300ER. It didn't leave a mark, so I assume it was just another regular flight. Both flights were from Paris (CDG) to Mirabel (YMQ).
I flew on the 767-400ER last year with Delta, loved how comfortable it was
Comfortable? ItÄs super loud and noisy, it sucks.
I wish other manufacturers other than Boeing and Airbus developed a middle-of-the-market plane. While the B767 and A300 were fantastic, they were 50 years old at this point.
That being said, the B767 had one of the most engine options among commercial jets. From the old school JT9D to the new PW series engines, it’s obvious that domestic carriers and cargo guys LOVE these babies.
imo, the 767 my fav boeing jet. A300 is my fav airbus jet. thank u for mentioning both !
i din't know that el al was the launch customer of the boeing 767-200er
Flew on the Panda Livery ANA 767-300ER from CAN to NRT
767-400 er was never delivered to Yonited Continental and Deltar were the delivery recipients after Malaysian didn’t take delivery hence all 400’s have N……..MH as tail series
Great report! Thx
lov this plane!!!!!
I was surprised to learn about the -400ER variant, that came at a time when Boeing was developing the 777. Didn’t they expect some cannibalization of sales between the two?
Not really. The 767 is significantly smaller even in the -400 version. It was more a A330 competitor
Too bad Boeing has decided not to neo this airframe. It’s an awesome airplane.
agreed. biggest pity is that boeing favoured the troublemaker 737 family instead. what a joke
Technically speaking the 767-400ER was delivered to Delta ans Continental not United but hey small mistake
The 300 ER is such a great airplane to fly. Its prefect niche market has no replacement. I wish Boeing made a narrow body 787 short variant. From Pilot perspective, it would be amazing for the Airline. They just get a whole bunch of the same plane with very different missions.
Kinda love 767s until I was in an Airbus A330 and A340, later Boeing 777s with 3-3-3 eco.
Boeing also wanted to make a 767 partial double decker. Essentially slapping a 757 fuselage on top of the 767. Similar to the 747, but with the "hump" towards the back, instead of at the front. The project was scrapped because nobody wanted it.
That's actually not true. It was one of the early concepts for the 777 programme. But the airlines wanted a plane bigger than the 767 but smaller than the 747.
Some videos you talk in Ilbs, some in Kgs. Why? Also, there’s no certification to fly across the Atlantic, but there is ETOPS certification.
I thought the 764’s were delivered to DL and CO. UA didn’t have them on their fleet, or did they?
United inherited them from Continental and still use them
Please give MTOW in kgs as well
You never mention the 767-400
the -200 engine was a Pratt & Whitney and the -300 engine was a GE
It would have been a good platform to attach the GENX-2B to. Now that production is halting in 2027, hopefully the -2B has enough thrust to power an A330NEO without necessitating a revised -3B variant.
It will be my first time flying on a 767-300ER from JFK-Madrid
Anyone know if they’re bumpy or loud ? The only other wide bodies I’ve been on are the airbus 330s and the 777-300 which was a beast !!
I have fly on all of then
The 767 is totally overshadowed by the 777😢
i actually like the 777 over the 767.the 767 is still great though.but it isnt completely overshadowed.we all know that 777 is too big to compete with a a330.that is where the 767 comes in
The 777 overshadowed it and the 787 came in and completely killed it.
The B-767 series airplanes are my all time Boeing favorites! Very stable, particularly in turbulence, made for a very comfortable ride! They were never surpassed by the following Boeing, the B-777 was a big disappointment for me, as the B-787!!!
Only Airbus made much more comfortable airplane s!….
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Boneheaded!
No more chir no more economy class we want first class beds please
if there is no more economy
1.we know what climate change is
2.airfares are going to climb faster than a su 35 in full afterburner
Back to an era where Boeing designed and built aircraft that lasted for years.
No doors falling off and software issues.