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I knew that Ibn Taymiyya and his modern day followers, the Wahabiya distorted fiqh & became ghair muqallid then totally destroyed tassawwuf, but I never knew that he ascribed shape & limitation to Allah (Allah forbid). Even a common Muslim has a better understanding of Allah & will never attribute such limitations to Him. Thanks to Shaykh Foed & Brother Umar for bringing this matter up.
Masha'Allah. Could you please translate clips of Shaykh Saeed where he talks about the Excellence of Muslims in the fields of logic and philosophy? Keep up the good work.
Allah exists in a way that is not understood by anyone except Himself. And we as Humans are unable to define Him in reality .We only know His existence is not like the creation and He is as He has said He is in the Quran and on the tongue of His Rasul and having no doubt about it, that's Iman.
This man is trying to elevate himself above the classical scholars of islam. there might be some truth in him but most of what is good in him is covered with his arrogance and boastfulness... May Allah guide our scholars.
He has many books on such, just read them. Also if you want clear references Shaykh Yasir Al Hanafi, a great scholar, shares many from Ibn Taymiyyah and Ibn al Qayyims own books on Hanafi Fiqh Channel. Exposing and destroying salafi beliefs and claims, just check the channel out
You should watch the other Shaykh Saeed Fodeh videos where he references the texts, but they're all in Arabic. You can also read some of the books he's authored. But I can provide some quotes for you: Ibn Taymiyyah said Aļļaah has a size Ibn Taymiyyah says speaking about Allah Azza Wa Jal: "That something existing should not be increasing, or decreasing, or neither increasing nor decreasing, and yet exist and not have a size - this is impossible" (Bayaan Talbiis Al-Jahmiyyah, 3/146). Allah has multiple limits Ibn Taymiyyah mentions this in the context of discussing Qādī Abū Ya‘lā’s discussion on ascribing hadd(limit) to Allah. Qādī Abū Ya‘lā is one of the notorious anthropomorphists taken to task by Hāfiz Ibn al-Jawzī in his Daf‘ Shubah al-Tashbīh. First, Ibn Taymiyyah quotes Qādī Abū Ya‘lā relating two purported statements of Imām Ahmad: 1. The first that Allah has a hadd that only He knows 2. And the second that He does not have a hadd. Then he quotes Qādī Abū Yalā’s attempt at reconciling these two purported statements: فالموضع الذي قال (أحمد) إنه على العرش بحد معناه ما حاذى العرش من ذاته فهو حد له وجهة له والموضع الذي قال هو على العرش بغير حد معناه ما عدا الجهة المحاذية للعرش وهي الفوق والخلف والأمام والميمنة والميسرة That is, Abu Ya‘la said: “The place in which Ahmad said that He is on the throne with a hadd, its meaning is [the part] of His essence that is in line with the ‘Arsh, so it (the ‘Arsh) is His hadd and His direction; and the place which he said He is over the throne without hadd, its meaning is what is besides the direction in line with the ‘Arsh - that is, above, behind, front, right and left.” (Bayān Talbīs al-Jahmiyyah, 3:735) And he goes on to make it even more explicit. Abū Ya‘lā said: “The difference between the downwards direction parallel to the ‘Arsh and other than it which we mentioned [i.e. the other five directions] is that: “The downward direction is in line with the ‘Arsh as established from evidence, and the ‘Arsh is limited (mahdūd) so it is possible to describe [the part] of the self [of Allah] that is in line with it and that it [the ‘Arsh] is a limit and direction. That is not so in the other directions [i.e. other than the downward direction], because it is not in line with that which is limited, but it is traversing through the right and the left, up, front and behind, without a limit. This is why none of these [five directions] are described with Hadd or direction; whereas the direction of ‘Arsh is parallel to what opposes it from the direction of [Allah’s] self, but it is not in line with the whole [of Allah’s] self because it has no limit.” In brief, Qādī Abū Ya‘lā is saying that the self or essence of Allah is limited by the ‘Arsh in the downward direction (from the perspective of Allah’s self); but in the other directions, i.e. up, right, left, front and back, there are no limits, and Allah’s self is endless. That is, he believes Allah is a physical body but an infinitely large body, limited downwards. Hence, Abu Ya‘lā reconciles the two purported statements of Imam Ahmad as follows: the negation of hadd(limit) is for the five directions and the affirmation of a limit is for the downward direction. Ibn Taymiyyah, however, does not agree with Qādī Abū Ya‘lā. According to Ibn Taymiyyah, the difference between the downward direction and the other directions is not that the first is limited and the others unlimited, but that the limit in the first is known while the limits in the other five directions are unknown. This is also how Ibn Taymiyyah reconciles the two purported statements of Imam Ahmad. He says the affirmation is affirmation of limits themselves (i.e. that Allah Himself has limits in all six directions), and the negation is negation of known limits in the five directions besides the downward direction. He says: “Where he [Ahmad] negated it, he negated a definer defining Him and his knowledge of His hadd, and where he affirmed it, he affirmed it in itself.” (حيث نفاه نفى تحديد الحاد له وعلمه بحده وحيث أثبته أثبته في نفسه). Ibn Taymiyyah says: “As for what Qadi said of affirming hadd from the direction of ‘Arsh only (faqat)…it is the view of a group of the people that affirm (the attributes), and the majority hold the contrary view and that is the correct view.” (وأما ما ذكره القاضي في إثبات الحد من جهة العرش فقط فهذا قد اختلف فيه كلامه وهو قول طائفة من أهل الإثبات والجمهور على خلافه وهو الصواب) What is the contrary view? It is the opposite of what Abū Ya‘lā said that Allah does not have a hadd above, behind, left, right and front. That is, according to Ibn Taymiyyah, Allah does have a hadd in all these directions, but it is just that we do not know what those hadds are. He says : The fact the hadd of Allah is not known (as mentioned in Imam Ahmad’s purported statement) shows that the hadd is not limited to the direction of ‘Arsh, as that is known to us! Hence there are hadds in the other directions which we do not know! (ولو كان مراد أحمد رحمه الله الحد من جهة العرش فقط لكان ذلك معلوما لعباده فإنهم قد عرفوا أن حده من هذه الجهة هو العرش فعلم أن الحد الذي لا يعلمونه مطلق لا يختص بجهة العرش) "He [i.e. Aĥmad ibn Ĥanbal - and this is a lie on Ahmad] has stated, “Aļļaah is in a particular direction, and He is not spread out in all directions. Rather, He is outside the world, distinct from His creation, separate from it, and He is not in every direction.” This is what Aĥmad, may Aļļaah have mercy upon him, meant when he said, “He has a limit that only He knows.” If Aĥmad had meant the direction towards the Arsħ only(1 limit), then this would be known to Aļļaah’s slaves, because they know that Aļļaah’s limit from this direction is the Arsħ, so we know then that the limit they do not know is unquantified, and is not specified for only the direction of the Arsħ(meaning Allah has multiple limits) (Bayaan Talbiis Al-Jahmiyyah, 1/438).
There’s no reference needed for this anyone whose done a lick of research on this issue would know that Ibn Taymiyyah said Allah is limited. The only ones who deny it are those who are ignorant or those who rely on him for their Islam since he’s the alpha and omega of all scholarship to them
Don't be silly.... it's all there for us to see.... the worst part of all this is that he took other scholars statements and put HIS words into THEIR mouths.... these are no small matters. May God guide us and save us from blasphemy. Ameen!
There are some Devil people who in India said that god is present in every human which Hindus copy for them such types of sufis are also present I'm not against tasawuf becoz I'm deobandi and maturidi in aqeeda Allah infinite without boundaries but it does not mean that ever one Allah inside.
That is true. Wahdatul wujud is a false claim which our scholars have refuted. If whole India says so it doesn’t change what our scholars said and what our scholars said is true.
If he believes, with certainty, that Ibn Taymiah Rahimullah believed Allah was LIMITED (limited meaning he has restrictions in his abilities like that of humans, animals & Jinns), then it is obligatory for him to make Takfeer on him - simple as that. Otherwise he is a Murjih.🤷🏿♂️😇
@@muslimuddin3656 This is a statement which if somebody said to me then I would say refrain from such Kufr or you will be regarded as someone who denies Allah is limitless (in all dimensions & abilities), as per all relevant Qur'aanic ayahs & hadith & the Ijm'aa of the Ummah, & regarded as someone who has disbelieved in Allah's revelation & has become Murtadd Kaafir.🤷🏿♀️⚰️👿🔥🔥🔥
he's talking about mutasyabihah attributes of God and afaik nobody can be correct including al-imam ibn taimiyah, and also including many more sufi scholars out there from the past. but this doesnt prove fiqh of ibn taimiyah is also wrong, as rejected by most unknown sufism schools who pray at cemeteries and do some other nonsense rituals. you sh saeed fodeh imho will only create more fitnah regarding syeikhul islam ibn taimiyah by highlighting this nonfruitful mutasyabihah discussion... Allahualam.
Rasool Allah Sayyiddina Muhammedﷺ said: *“The one who repents from sin is like one who did not sin.”* *SheykhulIslam IbnTayMiyyah Qadesallahu sirrehul Aziz, made Tawba.**Said to bury his books.* Died as a Qadiri Sufi, a Waliullah, buried in a Sufi Mezarluk. *I refute the Sheikh, that SheykhulIslam IbnTayMiyyah Qadesallahu sirrehul Aziz, will be held accountable for saying Allah has a limit.* Rasool Allah Sayyiddina Muhammedﷺ has spoken the Haqq. And imam IbnulQayyim al Jawzi QadesAllahu sirrehul Aziz, mentions in at least 10 times, SheykhulIslam Qadesallahu sirrehu said... And explained the sanctified secret, was him seeing the Lauwhi al Mahfouz, predicted battles, participants, numbers, the victor... All were correct.
there are two groups the ahly sunnah wal jameah consensus moderate Muslims 😅 and the shiea groupings of Iran takfiri shiea rafidhi and takfiri wahabi salafi of bokoharam alshabab Egypt ikhwanul talyban Bangladesh pseudo salafi Philippines abusayaf ASEAN takfiri wahabi salafi Syria rebels lraq isis Pakistani tehrk talyban India tehrek talyban Palestine hamas
This sort of Kalam is refuted. Not all Kalam. The theory of a pre-eternal world. Ghazali wrote that God created the world in time and just like everything in this world time will cease to exist as well, but God will continue to exist. God knows only the universal characteristics of particulars - namely Platonic forms. Bodily resurrection will not take place in the hereafter, and only human souls are resurrected.
"So they revert to another method. They revert to the method of belying the people who (correctly) ascribe such opinions to Ibn Taymiyyah. Or to vilify them through any means possible. Or to terrorise or intimidate them."
Ibn Taimiyah praised the Tafsir works of Muqatil ibn Sulayman. The neo Salafis of today take their beliefs from him. Many of his contemporaries were uncomfortable with his anthropomorphic take on gods attributes.
![Imam Ibn Taymiyyah [RA]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/eH8dW-LSoYA/mqdefault.jpg)
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JazakAllah Khair for making these wonderful translations. Looking forward to one on Ibn Uthaymeen or Albani
I knew that Ibn Taymiyya and his modern day followers, the Wahabiya distorted fiqh & became ghair muqallid then totally destroyed tassawwuf, but I never knew that he ascribed shape & limitation to Allah (Allah forbid). Even a common Muslim has a better understanding of Allah & will never attribute such limitations to Him. Thanks to Shaykh Foed & Brother Umar for bringing this matter up.
Ibn Taymiah doesn't deny Tasawwuf
Only Modern day followers does
Anyways his Aqeedah Stances seemd Heretical
Sh ibn taymiyaah actually has a full chapter on taswuff in his majmu al fatawa but these salafees always cut it out
Ibn taymiyah was buried in the sufi graveyard in Damascus
@@sadatnafis2032 what do you mean by Ibn Taymiyyah didn’t deny Tasawuf? You have to define Tasawuf first.
As I know all salfis believe Allah is only in his arsh we deobandi are maturidi in aqeeda Allah infinite without boundaries
If his sharh on aqeedah tahawiyah is subtitled in english it will be of the greatest benefit though it requires a lot of effort
Masha'Allah. Could you please translate clips of Shaykh Saeed where he talks about the Excellence of Muslims in the fields of logic and philosophy? Keep up the good work.
this clip
ruclips.net/video/sB1g4PVPlIE/видео.html
Ma Sha' Allah may Allah grant shiekh Saeed Fodeh paradise Ameen.♥️
Allah exists in a way that is not understood by anyone except Himself. And we as Humans are unable to define Him in reality .We only know His existence is not like the creation and He is as He has said He is in the Quran and on the tongue of His Rasul and having no doubt about it, that's Iman.
Use the speed function in order to easily read the English translation.... Anthropomorphism will lead you straight to a hollow pit!
اللهم صل وسلم على سيدنا ومولانا محمد عبدك ورسولك النبي الأمي وعلى آله وصحبه وسلم
There is a reason why scholars of the early generations heavily criticised the use of kalam.
They didn't mean by Kalam what you mean.
You need to learn kalam to refute the false one.
This man is trying to elevate himself above the classical scholars of islam.
there might be some truth in him but most of what is good in him is covered with his arrogance and boastfulness... May Allah guide our scholars.
It would of been good if the Shaykh gave a reference to Ibn Taymiyyah's statements.
He has many books on such, just read them. Also if you want clear references Shaykh Yasir Al Hanafi, a great scholar, shares many from Ibn Taymiyyah and Ibn al Qayyims own books on Hanafi Fiqh Channel. Exposing and destroying salafi beliefs and claims, just check the channel out
@@rayhana9796 burden of proof is on you guys. Give us book names and page numbers. You made the claim.
@@abdul-hadidadkhah1459 Hamawiya p523-524, 'the meaning is therefore that Allah is in the heights, not at the bottom'.
@@civic400bhp But this is what the Salaf say not something Ibn Taymiyyah came with.
@At-Turki the Salaf were not anthropomorphists
Not one reference to an unequivocal statement of Ibn Taymiyyah saying Allah is limited..
You should watch the other Shaykh Saeed Fodeh videos where he references the texts, but they're all in Arabic. You can also read some of the books he's authored.
But I can provide some quotes for you:
Ibn Taymiyyah said Aļļaah has a size
Ibn Taymiyyah says speaking about Allah Azza Wa Jal: "That something existing should not be increasing, or decreasing, or neither increasing nor decreasing, and yet exist and not have a size - this is impossible" (Bayaan Talbiis Al-Jahmiyyah, 3/146).
Allah has multiple limits
Ibn Taymiyyah mentions this in the context of discussing Qādī Abū Ya‘lā’s discussion on ascribing hadd(limit) to Allah. Qādī Abū Ya‘lā is one of the notorious anthropomorphists taken to task by Hāfiz Ibn al-Jawzī in his Daf‘ Shubah al-Tashbīh.
First, Ibn Taymiyyah quotes Qādī Abū Ya‘lā relating two purported statements of Imām Ahmad:
1. The first that Allah has a hadd that only He knows
2. And the second that He does not have a hadd.
Then he quotes Qādī Abū Yalā’s attempt at reconciling these two purported statements:
فالموضع الذي قال (أحمد) إنه على العرش بحد معناه ما حاذى العرش من ذاته فهو حد له وجهة له والموضع الذي قال هو على العرش بغير حد معناه ما عدا الجهة المحاذية للعرش وهي الفوق والخلف والأمام والميمنة والميسرة
That is, Abu Ya‘la said: “The place in which Ahmad said that He is on the throne with a hadd, its meaning is [the part] of His essence that is in line with the ‘Arsh, so it (the ‘Arsh) is His hadd and His direction; and the place which he said He is over the throne without hadd, its meaning is what is besides the direction in line with the ‘Arsh - that is, above, behind, front, right and left.” (Bayān Talbīs al-Jahmiyyah, 3:735)
And he goes on to make it even more explicit. Abū Ya‘lā said:
“The difference between the downwards direction parallel to the ‘Arsh and other than it which we mentioned [i.e. the other five directions] is that:
“The downward direction is in line with the ‘Arsh as established from evidence, and the ‘Arsh is limited (mahdūd) so it is possible to describe [the part] of the self [of Allah] that is in line with it and that it [the ‘Arsh] is a limit and direction. That is not so in the other directions [i.e. other than the downward direction], because it is not in line with that which is limited, but it is traversing through the right and the left, up, front and behind, without a limit. This is why none of these [five directions] are described with Hadd or direction; whereas the direction of ‘Arsh is parallel to what opposes it from the direction of [Allah’s] self, but it is not in line with the whole [of Allah’s] self because it has no limit.”
In brief, Qādī Abū Ya‘lā is saying that the self or essence of Allah is limited by the ‘Arsh in the downward direction (from the perspective of Allah’s self); but in the other directions, i.e. up, right, left, front and back, there are no limits, and Allah’s self is endless. That is, he believes Allah is a physical body but an infinitely large body, limited downwards. Hence, Abu Ya‘lā reconciles the two purported statements of Imam Ahmad as follows: the negation of hadd(limit) is for the five directions and the affirmation of a limit is for the downward direction.
Ibn Taymiyyah, however, does not agree with Qādī Abū Ya‘lā. According to Ibn Taymiyyah, the difference between the downward direction and the other directions is not that the first is limited and the others unlimited, but that the limit in the first is known while the limits in the other five directions are unknown. This is also how Ibn Taymiyyah reconciles the two purported statements of Imam Ahmad. He says the affirmation is affirmation of limits themselves (i.e. that Allah Himself has limits in all six directions), and the negation is negation of known limits in the five directions besides the downward direction. He says: “Where he [Ahmad] negated it, he negated a definer defining Him and his knowledge of His hadd, and where he affirmed it, he affirmed it in itself.” (حيث نفاه نفى تحديد الحاد له وعلمه بحده وحيث أثبته أثبته في نفسه).
Ibn Taymiyyah says: “As for what Qadi said of affirming hadd from the direction of ‘Arsh only (faqat)…it is the view of a group of the people that affirm (the attributes), and the majority hold the contrary view and that is the correct view.” (وأما ما ذكره القاضي في إثبات الحد من جهة العرش فقط فهذا قد اختلف فيه كلامه وهو قول طائفة من أهل الإثبات والجمهور على خلافه وهو الصواب)
What is the contrary view? It is the opposite of what Abū Ya‘lā said that Allah does not have a hadd above, behind, left, right and front. That is, according to Ibn Taymiyyah, Allah does have a hadd in all these directions, but it is just that we do not know what those hadds are.
He says : The fact the hadd of Allah is not known (as mentioned in Imam Ahmad’s purported statement) shows that the hadd is not limited to the direction of ‘Arsh, as that is known to us! Hence there are hadds in the other directions which we do not know! (ولو كان مراد أحمد رحمه الله الحد من جهة العرش فقط لكان ذلك معلوما لعباده فإنهم قد عرفوا أن حده من هذه الجهة هو العرش فعلم أن الحد الذي لا يعلمونه مطلق لا يختص بجهة العرش)
"He [i.e. Aĥmad ibn Ĥanbal - and this is a lie on Ahmad] has stated, “Aļļaah is in a particular direction, and He is not spread out in all directions. Rather, He is outside the world, distinct from His creation, separate from it, and He is not in every direction.” This is what Aĥmad, may Aļļaah have mercy upon him, meant when he said, “He has a limit that only He knows.” If Aĥmad had meant the direction towards the Arsħ only(1 limit), then this would be known to Aļļaah’s slaves, because they know that Aļļaah’s limit from this direction is the Arsħ, so we know then that the limit they do not know is unquantified, and is not specified for only the direction of the Arsħ(meaning Allah has multiple limits) (Bayaan Talbiis Al-Jahmiyyah, 1/438).
There’s no reference needed for this anyone whose done a lick of research on this issue would know that Ibn Taymiyyah said Allah is limited. The only ones who deny it are those who are ignorant or those who rely on him for their Islam since he’s the alpha and omega of all scholarship to them
Don't be silly.... it's all there for us to see.... the worst part of all this is that he took other scholars statements and put HIS words into THEIR mouths.... these are no small matters. May God guide us and save us from blasphemy. Ameen!
Alhamdulillah....tqvm
There are some Devil people who in India said that god is present in every human which Hindus copy for them such types of sufis are also present I'm not against tasawuf becoz I'm deobandi and maturidi in aqeeda Allah infinite without boundaries but it does not mean that ever one Allah inside.
That is true. Wahdatul wujud is a false claim which our scholars have refuted. If whole India says so it doesn’t change what our scholars said and what our scholars said is true.
Where can one purchase shaykh Saeed Foudahs books?
His Sharh on Aqeedah Tahaawiyyah can be found in Zakariyya bookstore
@@طالبالعلم-ت6ص Hangi dilde var kitabı??
If he believes, with certainty,
that Ibn Taymiah Rahimullah believed Allah was LIMITED (limited meaning he has restrictions in his abilities like that of humans, animals & Jinns), then it is obligatory for him to make Takfeer on him - simple as that. Otherwise he is a Murjih.🤷🏿♂️😇
They mean that his Entity is Limited just like human's body are Limited by specific width and length
Not in his abilities, no one could say that
@@muslimuddin3656 This is a statement which if somebody said to me then I would say refrain from such Kufr or you will be regarded as someone who denies Allah is limitless (in all dimensions & abilities), as per all relevant Qur'aanic ayahs & hadith & the Ijm'aa of the Ummah, & regarded as someone who has disbelieved in Allah's revelation & has become Murtadd Kaafir.🤷🏿♀️⚰️👿🔥🔥🔥
he's talking about mutasyabihah attributes of God and afaik nobody can be correct including al-imam ibn taimiyah, and also including many more sufi scholars out there from the past. but this doesnt prove fiqh of ibn taimiyah is also wrong, as rejected by most unknown sufism schools who pray at cemeteries and do some other nonsense rituals. you sh saeed fodeh imho will only create more fitnah regarding syeikhul islam ibn taimiyah by highlighting this nonfruitful mutasyabihah discussion... Allahualam.
FACT 😊😊😊
Rasool Allah Sayyiddina Muhammedﷺ said: *“The one who repents from sin is like one who did not sin.”*
*SheykhulIslam IbnTayMiyyah Qadesallahu sirrehul Aziz, made Tawba.**Said to bury his books.*
Died as a Qadiri Sufi, a Waliullah, buried in a Sufi Mezarluk.
*I refute the Sheikh, that SheykhulIslam IbnTayMiyyah Qadesallahu sirrehul Aziz, will be held accountable for saying Allah has a limit.*
Rasool Allah Sayyiddina Muhammedﷺ has spoken the Haqq. And imam IbnulQayyim al Jawzi QadesAllahu sirrehul Aziz, mentions in at least 10 times, SheykhulIslam Qadesallahu sirrehu said...
And explained the sanctified secret, was him seeing the Lauwhi al Mahfouz, predicted battles, participants, numbers, the victor...
All were correct.
@@yonko3218 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 man im finished
Give reference that he made towba and said to bury his books???
there are two groups the ahly sunnah wal jameah consensus moderate Muslims 😅 and the shiea groupings of Iran takfiri shiea rafidhi and takfiri wahabi salafi of bokoharam alshabab Egypt ikhwanul talyban Bangladesh pseudo salafi Philippines abusayaf ASEAN takfiri wahabi salafi Syria rebels lraq isis Pakistani tehrk talyban India tehrek talyban Palestine hamas
This sort of Kalam is refuted. Not all Kalam.
The theory of a pre-eternal world. Ghazali wrote that God created the world in time and just like everything in this world time will cease to exist as well, but God will continue to exist.
God knows only the universal characteristics of particulars - namely Platonic forms.
Bodily resurrection will not take place in the hereafter, and only human souls are resurrected.
This man is a big liar.
"So they revert to another method. They revert to the method of belying the people who (correctly) ascribe such opinions to Ibn Taymiyyah. Or to vilify them through any means possible. Or to terrorise or intimidate them."
@@ibrahimsiali2419 You just do a little bit of research and you will know he is a liar. Saeed foudah believes the quran is created mind you.
@@maxmudxareed1345 Some elaboration is in order. Please.
@@ibrahimsiali2419 ruclips.net/video/FzSYWNCfhsM/видео.html
Ibn Taimiyah praised the Tafsir works of Muqatil ibn Sulayman. The neo Salafis of today take their beliefs from him. Many of his contemporaries were uncomfortable with his anthropomorphic take on gods attributes.
Ashari cope
Blind follower
Pseudo salafi cope