For me, more than flares and bokeh, the most unique quality of the anamorphic look is the expanded field of view. For narrative work, it lets you keep a subject isolated like a telephoto lens would do, but while also letting you frame a wider scene like a 24 or 35mm would. So it’s just a really unique tool for storytelling. The flares and bokeh are ok, but the FOV effect cannot be replicated otherwise so you kind of loose the actual feel of what an anamorphic lens achieves.
I actually cut that part out of the script where I talk about the more telephoto separation on wider focal lengths for time, it got into TOO much what anamorhpic look is when I had just stated I didn't want that to be what the video is about lol. Good topic, but i need some actual shot anamorphic footage to make a real case on that and just didn't have enough in this case. What started out as a way to get more info out of a frame, has really become a gold standard on how we interpret visual story telling in film. Great addition mate, thanks!
Welp. Just bought a 44-3 now. To add to my 44-2. Worst thing to happen to my wallet was finding your channel. Not even lying. *But truthfully, keep up the fun content.
Back in the 70s it was fashionable to alter the shape of the light blobs (we didn’t have bokeh then) by putting a piece of card with a cut out over the front of the lens...stars were popular...
I love flares, don’t care for egg shape bokeh. But this is a fun video to make me want to play around with what’s possible. Rules tend to yield the same results, you know?
same here. so I've been basically experimenting with the fishing line in an 'easier' way: I have it in the front of the lens. It does give some interesting (and cool imo) results.
The Helios lenses are LEGENDARY. Really great lenses, awesome character, especially if you get a CLA'd one. I have my 44-2 anamorfaked, and it's soooooooo nice
So glad your video popped up in my research today, Mark! I think I've tried every "Anamor-fake" trick in the book and I'm itching to shoot on some real glass. 😬😬😬
I just was able to purchase (Used) Both the 50mm and 32mm Atlas anamorphics. I think those are the two lenses that us solo shooters can realistically use. All we need is a big credit card...
There is one more mod that can be done - remove some iris blades to get the "cat eye iris" - yes, it means taking the lens apart. It looks more or less like anamorphic bokeh, but the tips of ovals are a bit pointier. NOTE: I havent tried it myself, only seen some videos and pics. Retro Foto House had some videos.
Maybe ONE day! Right now I like to keep it simple. I tried taking apart a dead Pentacon and the iris blades were a nightmare to put back together. I need better tools and more experience for sure! Thanks for the additional info mate!
Beautifull man I love bricolage too.I have seen a tutto that show how to do better flare without a wire, scratching verticaly a frontal UV filter. I ve dont do it cause almost my equipment stay in Havana. And we are stucked in Mexico because Covid. Greatings my friend. Keep going! Sorry about my english.
it almost feels like a waste with the S1H and NOT being able to use them.....when the reality is part of getting this camera was the potential to use them. COVID hit and loads of production work dried up (which was planned for this) but development still moves on with found footage lol. I suspect some point in 2021 the real thing might happen, those Atlas anamorphics look pretty dope, they're accessible at the very least.
Since I'm still new to the photo and video world, I won't be able to apply this knowledge. But still watched and enjoyed your video until the end Mark 😉 - what video will you do on Sunday? 😀
Nice video! Not sure if I would ever go fishing with my 44M but looks good. I think that if you could do the same to any vintage 35mm you are set for any "special" project (thinking about the color shift).
Try a fusion lens with anamorphic projector lens please 🙏🏼 I really want to understand how can do that and if it's possible to find a way for use wide lenses without crop or vignetting
Thank you Mark for this amazing helpful video! I have a question about Helios 44-2, I assume since this is lens still not fully considered an anamorphic lens, so it won't require any desqueeze in the post?
Thanks mate! Figured might be nice to silently showcase the giveaway Helios 44-2 a few more times before it's gone for EVER...well not really GONE, gone to INSPIRE so NEW life! lol
I think the Sirui anamorphic lenses might be the best budget option. They come in EF, E and MFT mounts, no PL. They don't have cinema style markings on them though, they're basically photography for video lenses, but do retain those anamorphic image characteristics.
@@MarkHoltze Do you think eBay is the best way to go if no one around me locally is selling one? Not a ton of cinematography buffs here in central Virginia!
Ya it’s good, just make sure to read description carefully and ensure the seller has a good reputation and return policy. No fungus, no grease on blades and smooth focus action.
I can’t mate, they have a very distinct look, they’re $$$$$$$$$$ for that look too. Think less of what look to mimic and figure out a way to make accessible lenses look good for you. It’s way easier
@@MarkHoltze does the thickness matter? I tried somethingike fishing line, but didn't have any actual lying around... Still a plastic line, I coloured blue.
If I understand correctly anamorphic gets more horizontal field of view without proportions distortion, I don't get why imitating its only optical distortions gets any optical advantage... aaah aesthetics.
The No1 distinguishing visual attribute of Anamorphic imagery is Aspect Ratio. End of discussion. Oval bokeh and horizontal blue flairs, DO NOT appear in all shots but require certain specific conditions. Cheap IRIS modifier mods can fake the last two attributes. Cropping the image to 2.35:1 aspect ratio is the quick fake fix. Take it from someone who used to shoot Super 8mm Anamorphic with 16mm projection lenses, back in the day.
Canon FD 70-210mm i got this lens what as some kind of macro function i was also wondering if its possible to use macro extension tubes for that lens. in this case any focal length will do :D
Ya I'm convinced faking it will work until I get a chance to play with some REAL Anamorphic lenses...ONE day.
For me, more than flares and bokeh, the most unique quality of the anamorphic look is the expanded field of view. For narrative work, it lets you keep a subject isolated like a telephoto lens would do, but while also letting you frame a wider scene like a 24 or 35mm would. So it’s just a really unique tool for storytelling. The flares and bokeh are ok, but the FOV effect cannot be replicated otherwise so you kind of loose the actual feel of what an anamorphic lens achieves.
I actually cut that part out of the script where I talk about the more telephoto separation on wider focal lengths for time, it got into TOO much what anamorhpic look is when I had just stated I didn't want that to be what the video is about lol. Good topic, but i need some actual shot anamorphic footage to make a real case on that and just didn't have enough in this case.
What started out as a way to get more info out of a frame, has really become a gold standard on how we interpret visual story telling in film. Great addition mate, thanks!
Welp. Just bought a 44-3 now. To add to my 44-2. Worst thing to happen to my wallet was finding your channel. Not even lying. *But truthfully, keep up the fun content.
I would use streak filters instead of adding a fishing line. But I am definitely going to try this mod on one of my Pentax lens
Filters are a much easier solution for sure!
Can't wait! Really should use my Helios lenses more...
There's a good reason it's so widely adored. Even people who think vintage sucks are always talking about how they want to "try a helios". :)
Epic knowledge gained here. Thank you and what a great production job and edit on this video. Sound is even top notch.
All aspects of production considered, thanks for your kind words mate. ✊
I recently did a Helios comparison video too, but yours is on a whole different level :) It's great, well done!
On your channel?
Great video as always Mark! Keep up the great work 👍
Thanks guys! ✊
Back in the 70s it was fashionable to alter the shape of the light blobs (we didn’t have bokeh then) by putting a piece of card with a cut out over the front of the lens...stars were popular...
I love flares, don’t care for egg shape bokeh. But this is a fun video to make me want to play around with what’s possible. Rules tend to yield the same results, you know?
totally, always down for some experimentation.
same here. so I've been basically experimenting with the fishing line in an 'easier' way: I have it in the front of the lens. It does give some interesting (and cool imo) results.
The Helios lenses are LEGENDARY.
Really great lenses, awesome character, especially if you get a CLA'd one.
I have my 44-2 anamorfaked, and it's soooooooo nice
My sentiments are with yours mate. ✊
I'm pretty sure that small modded accessory is an unholy symbol of the Eye of Sauron.
lol! How did I not see this before?
Good stuff mayne. The steady stream of quality content is much appreciated. I can't wait to try this on some weird lenses :0
I might be 2020 tapped out, need to get out and do some more lens testing! Appreciate you being here!
So glad your video popped up in my research today, Mark! I think I've tried every "Anamor-fake" trick in the book and I'm itching to shoot on some real glass. 😬😬😬
These are awesome! The flares look great, even if they do sometimes make the bokeh look like little coffee beans.
Coffee bean bokeh oh now I see it lol. Man wish I did when I shot this, brilliant Allan, thanks!
Great info. And a great way to get started with using this look!
Love it got my own blue model!
Nice!
Love your content Mark! Looking forward to FAKEING IT in '21... thanks for the intriguing idea and comic relief. Be well, stay encouraged, and safe!
Thanks Jacob, so glad you're here with us. You're a wonderful member of this community. Thanks for being here! Happy holidays my friend.
@@MarkHoltze Honored to be a member of your community. Happy Holidays to you and your precious Family my Friend!!!
You're video style and quality are incredible! More videos please :)
Thanks Marco, hopefully push out more than 25 for 2021, banner year this year for sure.
So cool! We need to try this!
so much fun! Would look cool with those star wars micromachine shots.
I just was able to purchase (Used) Both the 50mm and 32mm Atlas anamorphics. I think those are the two lenses that us solo shooters can realistically use. All we need is a big credit card...
Been peeping those! They look nice! Love to hear your thoughts on them when they come in mate.
That's so cool. I want to give this a try.
Hello Mark...!
Love from India.
Your videos inspired me to fall in love with vintage lenses.
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Thanks for being here mate! So glad to have you!
Mark the fact you don’t have 500k followers BOGGLES MY MIND. ❤
🙏 haha. I’m super niche clearly ;)
There is one more mod that can be done - remove some iris blades to get the "cat eye iris" - yes, it means taking the lens apart. It looks more or less like anamorphic bokeh, but the tips of ovals are a bit pointier. NOTE: I havent tried it myself, only seen some videos and pics. Retro Foto House had some videos.
Maybe ONE day! Right now I like to keep it simple. I tried taking apart a dead Pentacon and the iris blades were a nightmare to put back together. I need better tools and more experience for sure! Thanks for the additional info mate!
Beautifull man I love bricolage too.I have seen a tutto that show how to do better flare without a wire, scratching verticaly a frontal UV filter. I ve dont do it cause almost my equipment stay in Havana. And we are stucked in Mexico because Covid. Greatings my friend. Keep going! Sorry about my english.
Anamorfake for the win. What an awesome mod. One day mark, one day we will all be rich or lucky enough to be allowed touch one for real!!
it almost feels like a waste with the S1H and NOT being able to use them.....when the reality is part of getting this camera was the potential to use them. COVID hit and loads of production work dried up (which was planned for this) but development still moves on with found footage lol. I suspect some point in 2021 the real thing might happen, those Atlas anamorphics look pretty dope, they're accessible at the very least.
Since I'm still new to the photo and video world, I won't be able to apply this knowledge.
But still watched and enjoyed your video until the end Mark 😉 - what video will you do on Sunday? 😀
One day possibly, it's an evolution that occurs naturally. Thanks for the company mate!
Brilliant budget ideas.
Can’t go wrong really ;)
Nice video! Not sure if I would ever go fishing with my 44M but looks good. I think that if you could do the same to any vintage 35mm you are set for any "special" project (thinking about the color shift).
Great ideas! I love this stuff and can't wait to get my g85 so I can start playing around with this. This really makes the gopros not fun anymore!
GO PRO's are good for very specific stuff, there's very little tinkering you can do with them that's for sure.
@@MarkHoltze yes I am starting to figure that out when I try to replicate what I see on youtube. Most things are nearly impossible with a gopro.
Here we go!! Thanks Mark!
"IT'S GO TIME" ;) LOL
Just a heads up, the link to the Anamorphic on a Budget channel in the video description doesn't work
Thanks for that! Will rectify!
I have the Helios 44-M which I didn’t even realize, I thought I had the 44-2 version cuz this look so similar lol.
"Note to editor Mark" hahaha love it
Talent thinks he can give ME notes? I think not ;)
😂 he’s a grump ;)
Wow just wow!
Loved this video.
Thanks Henry!
Cool video thanks for sharing
Try a fusion lens with anamorphic projector lens please 🙏🏼 I really want to understand how can do that and if it's possible to find a way for use wide lenses without crop or vignetting
new territory for me, but definitely interested in pursuing. Thanks mate!
@@MarkHoltze 🤙😊
Thank you Mark for this amazing helpful video! I have a question about Helios 44-2, I assume since this is lens still not fully considered an anamorphic lens, so it won't require any desqueeze in the post?
That’s right it’s spherical so no need to de squeeze
So it only changes the bokeh not the amount of space that fits in the frame? I mean the cine mod
@hamfromburger ya just changed the bokeh; no impact on the frame. Might let a BIt less light in since it won’t open full wide, but it’s negligible
Only fishingline can make that flare ?
Any kind of small obstruction that would cause the light to diffract. I’m sure other materials can be used
The ending. Hahahaha. Nice mod by Tito! 😁
Awesome video!!!
Thanks mate! Figured might be nice to silently showcase the giveaway Helios 44-2 a few more times before it's gone for EVER...well not really GONE, gone to INSPIRE so NEW life! lol
Great video Mark! What's the most affordable anamorphic lens for EF or PL mount? If such thing even exists 😁
I think the Sirui anamorphic lenses might be the best budget option. They come in EF, E and MFT mounts, no PL. They don't have cinema style markings on them though, they're basically photography for video lenses, but do retain those anamorphic image characteristics.
Ok, that's it. I have to pick me up a Helios now...
They’re fantastic, be picky with the condition. So many out there that nothing short of mint should be accepted ;)
@@MarkHoltze Do you think eBay is the best way to go if no one around me locally is selling one? Not a ton of cinematography buffs here in central Virginia!
Ya it’s good, just make sure to read description carefully and ensure the seller has a good reputation and return policy.
No fungus, no grease on blades and smooth focus action.
I love Helios lenses. And yes helios still means sun even in the modern greek language :)
It's such a great word, how could it not right? lo,
@@MarkHoltze Same story with Carl Zeiss Sonnar. The name "Sonnar" is derived from the German word "Sonne" and it means Sun!
are there photography lenses that have the same look/equal characteristics as the panavision cine lenses
Similar but not the same. Those panavision lenses are on a diff level
@@MarkHoltze can you name some lenses that you think look similar ?
I can’t mate, they have a very distinct look, they’re $$$$$$$$$$ for that look too. Think less of what look to mimic and figure out a way to make accessible lenses look good for you.
It’s way easier
I tried making one of those inserts... The ovals work, but the flare does not... I was really looking forward to the flares...
Did you try the fishing line? You can even tape fishing line to the end of the lens vertically and as light hits it, you’ll get the flares.
@@MarkHoltze does the thickness matter? I tried somethingike fishing line, but didn't have any actual lying around... Still a plastic line, I coloured blue.
If I understand correctly anamorphic gets more horizontal field of view without proportions distortion, I don't get why imitating its only optical distortions gets any optical advantage... aaah aesthetics.
Would look super cool cropped at like 2.35:1 with the bokeh effect
I do love it but dont think it should be used in all situations.
Definitely not
The No1 distinguishing visual attribute of Anamorphic imagery is Aspect Ratio. End of discussion.
Oval bokeh and horizontal blue flairs, DO NOT appear in all shots but require certain specific conditions.
Cheap IRIS modifier mods can fake the last two attributes.
Cropping the image to 2.35:1 aspect ratio is the quick fake fix.
Take it from someone who used to shoot Super 8mm Anamorphic with 16mm projection lenses, back in the day.
who is stupid enough to put anamorphic lenses in front of a super 8 format? that medium really isn't made for that
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Thanks Kyle! Happy holidays mate.
Where'd you get the budget to hire the new guy?
no hired new guy, no budget. I'm lost? Could you give me some directions please? ;)
cheapest 1:1 vintage macro lens?
Not sure price varies, what focal length do you want? It’s a loaded question mate
Canon FD 70-210mm i got this lens what as some kind of macro function i was also wondering if its possible to use macro extension tubes for that lens.
in this case any focal length will do :D
I like Tito's page. You gotta be ready to mentally suck up a lot of information though, ha
Who Tf disliked this video? Thats a crime!
I like it, keeps me humble ;)
the bokeh works but the flares do not.
Only one that never used an anamorphic lens can pretend you can fake the look of anamorphic lens
Fake it even if you've made it!
With these modded lenses, you only get the undesirable attributes of anamorphics and none of the good stuff.
It’s the superficial stuff….absolutely. It’s way more nuanced than this…true anamorphic anyway.