Today, I was looking at a documentary on Grant as a possible gift for my parents. Then I saw it had the History Channel logo on it, and so I passed. They've done so much harm to their reputation. Thankfully, we have channels like this, the History Guy, and Drachinifel.
I don't know anything about US channels, but most of the stuff on our TV about things like this gets inflated to ridiculous lengths with some stupid bs that no one one wants to see or know. they would have turned this into a 45 minutes documentary.
This is really sadly true...consider the information content and to the point narrative of even on of Marks short videos... I now ignore anything with the History Channel logo on it because I will be certain to be disappointed...
@@Axterix13 I wish someone with the honesty of Dr. Felton would cover the history of the pyramids. History channels obvious bias means it excludes a lot of valuable information if it doesn't coincide with the version of history they WANT to tell
Let's take a minute here...Mark Felton has proved there is hope left for humanity..1 million subscribers is proof that people are interested in our past when told by a clever,straight-talking man..no frills,no window dressing,just good old fashioned history. Well done Mark.
History Channel: shows ancient aliens Me: Isn't this the history channel, not the conspiracy theory channel? I'm just gonna watch Mark Felton Production instead....
@Haeuptling Aberja you're really reaching here. Mark Felton reports history fairly, and his videos never needlessly extol the virtues of the nazis. Straight facts always, and for the most part the comments are sensible. One or two idiots for sure, but nowhere near as many as a lot of history channels. Not saying nazi fetishism doesnt exist. The 'Wehraboo' is indeed alive and well on RUclips. But given Mark's videos have absolutely no bias there are few of them here. They're all busy reading Max Hastings books I suppose. Theres a guy who is guilty of increasing the Nazi myth of invincibility. But he is not a historian, he is a journalist. It's important to recognise which is which. Mark Felton is a proper historian.
@Haeuptling Aberja : Or it could just be that WW2 is within living memory. That many would have Fathers and Grandfathers who served in the military and who returned home with visible wounds and stories to tell their families of what they had seen. We honour those veterans and rightly so, for their service and the sacrifices that they made. In comparison combatants of the American Civil War or the Napoleonic wars, are a little more remote from us. Yet, we have people who want to tear down statues of participants from those eras. The advent of the camera and war photographers, have served to bring the war closer to civilians back home. It could be argued, that it was war photographers, embedded in the forces, that had such an effect on public opinion, that it influenced the outcome of the Vietnam War. Margaret Thatcher, for example, prevented the photographer Don McCullen travelling with the British forces to the Falklands because she worried his work might undermine public opinion back home. The atrocities committed during WW2 brought home to the general public, as never before, the full horror of war and what depravity the human mind was capable of. We could see the photos of the gas ovens and pictures of the starving inmates that mere words could not convey. It is these factors, that have created the interest in this period. To delve into people's minds, as to why Hitler had such support. To reconcile why a failed artist arrived at a final solution and implemented the means to try and bring it about. To understand the courage and ingenuity it took to defeat him and the resulting aftermath of the war. All of these impinge on our lives today, as few other wars in history did.
Since I was a kid I've seen films briefly showing a few frames of these ships, usually sandwiched between multiple cuts of much larger ships shooting their big guns at enemy-held shoreline. No one has ever explained what these rocket ships' roles were, nor how they worked. Thank you so much Mark for what you do!!!
Fitted with proximity fuses these would have been able to put out a much larger volume of fire to engage incoming attack aircraft. They could have been amongst the first SAMs
I thing you will find people were developing these launchers while the rockets were in development, and they would have seen the shortfalls of the first generation weapons while still on the drawing board.
Hard to comprehend how many moving parts there were in what was a relatively short time. They took concept to implementation in months, feels like now we take decades.
When I was young nobody could tell me, why supposedly only the russians used rocket launchers on trucks. Thanks to Marc Felton and That history guy I know now better. Thanks Mr Felton - you answered the questions of my younger self! :)
Incredible. I've read and listened to so many books on WW2 and every video Mark puts up suprises me with something I had absolutely never heard of. Brilliant work as usual.
'Here we can see the rocket ship in it's natural environment, once it finds it's prey it strikes immediately so that it's prey is completely immobilized......'
@@phill2065It doesn't surprise me that the Russians would've done that. I'm sure they were put too some how use. I always liked the katushya trucks because alot if not all of them were made by studebaker. In fact fun fact the Russians thought studebaker meant truck in america since that's all we have them. We found that out from our Ukraine neighbor. Fun fact for the day in case you didn't know already.
The NVA frequently used Chinese 107mm and Russian 122mm Katyusha rockets against us in Vietnam in 68-69 when I was there. They targeted large basecamps, much smaller firebases (FB), fire support bases (FSB), and night defensive perimeters (NDP). ... Of course, the rockets were relatively inaccurate, but powerful barrage weapons. From my perspective as a combat infantry NCO in III Corps, the enemy did not have the capability to deploy them in enough numbers to tip the firepower balance in the theater into their favor. To Army infantrymen in III Corps at that time, the communist 82mm mortar was their most effective indirect fire weapon. The units I served in took lots of casualties from the mortars and zero casualties from their large rockets. ... Down at the infantry level, the RPG with B-40 antiarmor shaped charge warhead rockets was by far their most effective rocket weapon. We took lots of casualties from RPGs. When targeted by them at night, we called them Fat Tracers. ... I'm very happy to have survived that epochal time in my life.
@@martinmiller1087 Huh i wondered if they had rockets or not. Usually you might here about their anti aircraft defenses or something but never rockets. Thank you for sharing that with us as i learned something new today and more importantly thank you for your service to our country. Shame you had to go over there, but at least you made it home alive. Thanks again.
I have been waiting too. My dad was on LCI(g) 79. Also was at Okinawa on the “radar picket line”, which is where most LCI casualties were incurred, as a result of kamikaze planes, boats, and swimmers.
My Grandpa served aboard LSM(R)-527. He told me they were an ammo re-supply ship and when the war ended they were in Guam and there was no booze. I guess the crew was quite pissed about this.
Holy s***t man that mustve been terrifying! My grandfather served in the marines as an artillery observer, I wonder what he thought when he saw these things in action preparing to land on Okinawa. Trying to picture what our forefather experienced during those times is unfathomable yet it's so fascinating to get some insight. My family and I never heard him speak a word about the war. I guess that says more than anything he could've ever told me what he'd been through 😥
Richard here. I served as Communication Officer on the USS Clarion River (LSMR 409), putting it back in commission at Hunters Point in mid-1965 and serving in Vietnam until transfer 1/67. During rocket and 5 in/38 shore bombardment mission, I served as OOD. Rockets were effective for LZ prep, call for fire out to 10,000 yards and close in H&I fire. We carried about 4000 rockets of 3 types: 2500, 5000 & 10,000 yard. We also carried about 1000 rounds of 5 in/38 ammo with an effective range of near 10 miles.
Watching Mark Felton videos is equal to attending University lectures. The fine details revealed are amazing and help to understand details about combat strategies.
i'm not sure which subject you followed at uni but there wasnt much focus on rocket launchers, more about socia-political aspects that lead to certain events, as much as i like history, i love marks channel (and the diversity of his subjects)
@@juki6377 My point obviously went over your head. Mark's videos is equal to a high level of instruction. Even better than a University of which I never attended nor did I ever need to.
According to my dad, my grandad used to have to load those British rocket launching ships during his time in the Navy. He said they were such a pain as you spent hours and hours loading them only for them all to be fired within a few minutes. He served on many different landings like Salerno and sword beach but he was on a train to Scotland when the war ended and never stepped foot on a boat or abroad since, claiming that whenever he went abroad they were trying to shoot at him!
Mark has taught me so much about history. So many people want to forget the history of our ancestors,but we must not forget our past or we will repeat it. Mark I thank you for teaching all of us about the forgotten history. Let’s get mark to 1 million subscribers!
I'm not a WW2-ophile, I prefer Royal Navy history from the 18th and 19th century, so I'd never seen the American dual rocket firing system. It is very impressive, especially as it was so incredibly effective. Thanks for a very educational video presentation. Well worth my time investment. 👍👍👍
That was the most informative thing I've ever seen, heard or read about rocket ships. It's as though no one before could have been bothered to cover them, but you did. Thank you.
I can't find any other videos about the Mk 102 rocket launcher. I love how he always finds footage of things I've never seen and probably won't ever find anywhere else. Great content.👍
My grandfather was a merchant marine in WWI. When WWII broke out he wanted to get back in the navy. They said he was too old. To which he said "Send me to boot camp. If I fail boot camp THEN I am too old." He made it in and was stationed on one of these Rocket LSM ships you showed in this clip. 'cept his was in the Pacific.
Another in-depth report from Professor Felton. Quality we have come to expect and Mark delivers! Thats a terrifying weapon. One no sane man would ever think of entertaining for even a moment. Thanks Mark. Cheers !
I don't know, an orchestra of double launchers all firing twice, reloading in unison is amazing....But ,yeah... Those welded tube ships look and sound awsum. I bet the enemy loved to watch any rocket ship perform....Just before diving into a cave.
My father (Lt jg Charles L. Fergus) served on LCI(g) 79, which was fitted with rocket launchers following the Aleutian campaign. He was CO of the vessel for the remainder of the war, and fought in the invasions of kuajalein, Saipan, Tinian, peleliu, and Okinawa. While a typical amazing MF production, Mark failed to mention a couple of interesting features and facts concerning the LCIs. For one thing, they had flat bottoms, so that after discharging their rockets, they would run themselves up on the beach in order to allow the Marines (around 100) they also transported to wade to shore. The ship would then have to wait for high tide to get out of the shallows. Apparently there was a high degree of scorn directed from the Marines toward the sailors who delivered them, as they viewed their naval counterparts’ combat role as “cushy”. The flat bottoms made for very uncomfortable travel in rough seas, but on at least one occasion, a torpedo passed under the vessel without contacting the hull since the draft was so shallow. Following the initial invasion of Okinawa, the LCIs were used as patrol boats (in addition to the rockets they were also fitted with 2 40mm and 4 20mm guns) around the island. It was here that most of the casualties were incurred, primarily as a result not only of kamikaze planes, but also kamikaze boats and swimmers. Great stuff - keep up the good work Mark!
I never dug deep enough to understand why the Okinawa landing was unopposed. Now I know. That dual turret is amazing. Thanks for filling in this hole in my understanding of WW2. As I remember, my uncle was at Okinawa. He and 10 others survived out of the original platoon. Out of the eleven, he alone finished the campaign without a wound.
Mark Felton...you are my favorite military historian.I I am a Vietnam Vet 1968-1970.I participated in the 1969 nuclear attack on HANOI and the 120 mm atomic cannon barrage on Laos
This is amazing.I was only watching a DDay video recently and wondered how those rocket ships functioned.Low and behold up pops a Mark Felton video on the exact subject.Class video yet again.
Thats because the way we conduct war has radically changed. There are no extensive defensive works or large troop movementd where you need a stellar amount of indiscriminate firepower. The wars we figth now need pinpoint accurate weapons that are able to take out foes that are in populated areas.
@@Thissa96 No, there will be two types of military wars. One is the kind you just described. The other will be conventional when you will need firepower to overwhelm or supress large formations of troops. And then, of course, there still is the unconventional war that is led in the shadows.
@@thomas_jay i dont think a large conventional war between nations which includes one great power is possible anymore. That will be fought through proxy or would get nuclear uncomfortably quick.
@@Thissa96 The conventional war variant is quite possible in different regions, i.e US-China, Russia-EU /NATO, Saudi Arabia-Iran, Pakistan-India, US /S. Korea- N.Korea / China, (even China-Russia is possible as Russia occupies terrority whhich was formerly chinese). All it takes is one wrong step with the wrong politicians
Another totally fascinating documentary with incredible footage . Imagine calculating the trigonometry from rocket to shore with fixed launchers on a moving ship . Distance to shore - Range of rocket and angle of launch . Imagine being in an aircraft anywhere near this barrage . The communications would have to be spot on . Thank You once again Mr. Felton for another phenomenal history lesson . If you ever take requests - A history of trench knives , daggers , self made close quarter fighting weapons ... and particularly a trench knife named the French Nail . All the best .
I think there's a presumption among many people out there that WW2 was primarily a gun war until the Japanese were nuked (excluding Nazi V rocket attacks on London of course)...soldiers, tanks, bomber squadrons, battleships and carriers make up most imagery of the war...it's the first time I've ever seen these semi automated rocket launcher turrets. Excellent video !
Well done Mark. You are always able to find niches of World War Two history and make, what may seem mundane, interesting! Good luck, I hope you reach your goal. I have shared this with friends that I think may have an interest.
Thanks Dr. Felton for another extraordinary production. I wanted to know more about these ships since the 1970s when I came across an article, on an old 1950s Popular Mechanics magazine, regarding the USS Carronade LSM(Rocket). I wondered how the rocket launchers worked and their effect on beach landings. Now, in 2020 I finally have the answer thanks to you!! Another great work, I have been enjoying all Mark Felton videos, I learn a lot from them.
Yet another Mark Felton revelation. I've never heard of these ships before, or the Mk. 102 rocket launcher. Keep it coming, Mr. Felton! You bombard us with fascinating details of WWII.
That is so cool. I knew that rocket ships were used during WW2 but i never knew that they developed a turret rocket launcher. Its amazing how technology advanced from the beginning of the war to the end of the war. Thank you for making these educational videos I've learned alot by watching them.
Mr. Felton - I want to thank you for all of your great research and videos. I wish that I had a history teacher as yourself when I was growing up. And I see that you are closing in on 1million subscribers! Congratulations in advance..
Mr. Felton, I want to thank you for you fabulous work on your research and narration of historical events. My father and I have been longtime fans. we are both veterans and apricate your attention to detail on the history of events . Thank you sir, my sons and I watch your channel to accurate explanation on events. Bravo!
One of rocketships problems was the heating of the deck when the unleashed their rockets on the targets. The solution was pretty simple, hose the deck with seawater. These turrets are new for me, and boy do they look sophisticated! Yes they do.
Years ago I was buying a small truck and the salesman had a picture of one of the US rocket ships on his wall. He had served on it. I acknowledged it as being a “cool photo” and he said “I bet you don’t know what that is.” I had been fascinated by amphibious landings since I was a kid so knew a little bit; however, I said I didn’t because I wasn’t up on all the specific rocket variants landing ships the US developed. “....but maybe a landing ship rocket?” I asked (just replacing tank with rocket). He was was shocked someone of my age even came close to knowing what is was. Great episode Mark.
My father commanded LSMR 605 at war's end. He was on his way to support the invasion of Japan. I had NO idea that these ships were reconfigured and am assuming that his was as well. Thank you for enlightening me. Great work.
Nice find. At a glimpse from 2020, the amount of automation and systems integration looks impressive. Dr Felton could you make a similar video about the B-29 Bomber from a similar view point as it too was more formally identified as a integrated weapons system rather than as a Bomber please?
What you don't mention is that the Rocket Ships deployed on D-Day failed almost completely. The idea was that, as well as destroying German positions, that they would provide lots of shell-holes for the infantry to shelter in. In the event almost every rocket landed short. Lessons were learned, of course, leading to Rocket ships being much more effective in the Pacific in 1945.
How fascinating Mark! Another high-quality Mark Felton Production - Bravo!! I knew about rocket ships on a very limited scale.... I didn't realize they developed into the versatile weapon they did. That is interesting about Okinawa... I was station there in the 80's for 18 months and extensively toured the island to visit the various locations of the battlefields - which was virtually the entire island (at least southern 1/3).
1990: Discovery Channel
2000: National Geographic
2010: History Channel
2020: Mark Felton Productions
Today, I was looking at a documentary on Grant as a possible gift for my parents. Then I saw it had the History Channel logo on it, and so I passed. They've done so much harm to their reputation. Thankfully, we have channels like this, the History Guy, and Drachinifel.
I don't know anything about US channels, but most of the stuff on our TV about things like this gets inflated to ridiculous lengths with some stupid bs that no one one wants to see or know. they would have turned this into a 45 minutes documentary.
This is really sadly true...consider the information content and to the
point narrative of even on of Marks short videos... I now ignore anything
with the History Channel logo on it because I will be certain to be
disappointed...
@@Axterix13 I wish someone with the honesty of Dr. Felton would cover the history of the pyramids.
History channels obvious bias means it excludes a lot of valuable information if it doesn't coincide with the version of history they WANT to tell
History Channel... Sasquatch, Ancient Aliens, and freaky assed reality shows.
Let's take a minute here...Mark Felton has proved there is hope left for humanity..1 million subscribers is proof that people are interested in our past when told by a clever,straight-talking man..no frills,no window dressing,just good old fashioned history.
Well done Mark.
RUclips: Useful history, DEMONETIZED!
History Channel: shows ancient aliens
Me: Isn't this the history channel, not the conspiracy theory channel? I'm just gonna watch Mark Felton Production instead....
@Haeuptling Aberja you're really reaching here. Mark Felton reports history fairly, and his videos never needlessly extol the virtues of the nazis. Straight facts always, and for the most part the comments are sensible. One or two idiots for sure, but nowhere near as many as a lot of history channels.
Not saying nazi fetishism doesnt exist. The 'Wehraboo' is indeed alive and well on RUclips. But given Mark's videos have absolutely no bias there are few of them here.
They're all busy reading Max Hastings books I suppose. Theres a guy who is guilty of increasing the Nazi myth of invincibility. But he is not a historian, he is a journalist. It's important to recognise which is which. Mark Felton is a proper historian.
@Haeuptling Aberja : Or it could just be that WW2 is within living memory. That many would have Fathers and Grandfathers who served in the military and who returned home with visible wounds and stories to tell their families of what they had seen.
We honour those veterans and rightly so, for their service and the sacrifices that they made.
In comparison combatants of the American Civil War or the Napoleonic wars, are a little more remote from us. Yet, we have people who want to tear down statues of participants from those eras.
The advent of the camera and war photographers, have served to bring the war closer to civilians back home. It could be argued, that it was war photographers, embedded in the forces, that had such an effect on public opinion, that it influenced the outcome of the Vietnam War.
Margaret Thatcher, for example, prevented the photographer Don McCullen travelling with the British forces to the Falklands because she worried his work might undermine public opinion back home.
The atrocities committed during WW2 brought home to the general public, as never before, the full horror of war and what depravity the human mind was capable of. We could see the photos of the gas ovens and pictures of the starving inmates that mere words could not convey.
It is these factors, that have created the interest in this period. To delve into people's minds, as to why Hitler had such support. To reconcile why a failed artist arrived at a final solution and implemented the means to try and bring it about.
To understand the courage and ingenuity it took to defeat him and the resulting aftermath of the war.
All of these impinge on our lives today, as few other wars in history did.
@@AtheAetheling j
I’d never heard of that reloading rocket turret before or seen some of that other footage - thanks Mark!
I wonder if it could werf nebels also.
@Kevin Dales Isn't war great for technical innovation? 😅
You could imagine that rocket turret in Star Wars firing missiles at x-wings😂
@@PeteCourtier Don't give Mark any ideas for the title of his next video.
@@PeteCourtier Absolutely. Star Wars is basically WWII in space (fighting-wise) so it checks out.
4 Thousand more till one million! We’ll hit it soon Mark!
It just goes to show quality matters.
I send Mr. Feltons videos to 1,122 (and counting) contacts . Let's get him to 1,000,000 before Christmas .
Noice
Stay on target
Fully deserved
"Cheap to produce. Easy to use and it doesn't require massive crews."
SOLD
It's a poem in itself
I hear Mark’s intro music, I upvote.
what’s it called it’s the vibe
Same
I found a redditor
@@jackryan5268 how
upvoting is not exclusive to reddit
Since I was a kid I've seen films briefly showing a few frames of these ships, usually sandwiched between multiple cuts of much larger ships shooting their big guns at enemy-held shoreline. No one has ever explained what these rocket ships' roles were, nor how they worked. Thank you so much Mark for what you do!!!
Those twin 5 in rocket launchers are mad! Never seen them before.
Once they got the idea of a MLRS in their head they never looked back.
@@readhistory2023 They seem more like a predecessor of the Mark 13 'One Armed Bandit' missile launcher. Amazing considering this was WW2 technology!
Simple, cheap and cost effective. Just like myself. No wonder they got rid of them. 🤔
Fitted with proximity fuses these would have been able to put out a much larger volume of fire to engage incoming attack aircraft. They could have been amongst the first SAMs
Looks so modern for WW2!
These ships fascinate me big time , And yet its very rarely they get mentioned in military history. Thank you.
I hadn't really noticed these before in WWII footage. I'll look more closely from now on.
@@will5107 If you watch Walter Kronkite's series on the war, I believe they're featured in a few of the pacific ones.
@@jacobdewey2053 Found some episodes on YT. Am looking now.
Thanks for the tip.
It always amazes me the speed of innovation when wars are involved. These things were actually implemented in few months.
I thing you will find people were developing these launchers while the rockets were in development, and they would have seen the shortfalls of the first generation weapons while still on the drawing board.
Hard to comprehend how many moving parts there were in what was a relatively short time. They took concept to implementation in months, feels like now we take decades.
@@444mopar Phone development: *hold my charger*
It saved a lot of men’s lives that’s why
When I was young nobody could tell me, why supposedly only the russians used rocket launchers on trucks.
Thanks to Marc Felton and That history guy I know now better.
Thanks Mr Felton - you answered the questions of my younger self! :)
Let's get Mark to 1 million!!!! fun fact, these were used a lot during the Vietnam war
edit: Congrats on 1 million subscribers!!!!
War of empire - should be taught in all schools
Excellent presentation and use of contemporary footage of another little-known item. Great work as usual, Mark. Thank you.
Soon
subscribed once and now I am recommending his channel to my friends, 1M subcribers here we go!
Yeah let's get Mark the golden YT award 😀
Incredible. I've read and listened to so many books on WW2 and every video Mark puts up suprises me with something I had absolutely never heard of. Brilliant work as usual.
And absent the usual triumphalist Greatest Generation gas and stupid music soundtracks.
Same here. I'd never heard of those auto-loading rocket turrets. Those are seriously cool!
I agree.
I can see Mark being the David Attenborough of History and I love it
How long till the channels are renamed Sir Mark Felton Productions, and War Stories with Sir Mark Felton?
'Here we can see the rocket ship in it's natural environment, once it finds it's prey it strikes immediately so that it's prey is completely immobilized......'
Russians: We fire Katushya Rockets from our trucks.
Rocket Ships: That's Cute.
They did actually have river patrol boats with a single Katushya rack installed onto them, but it’s nothing compared to the rocket ships
@@phill2065It doesn't surprise me that the Russians would've done that. I'm sure they were put too some how use. I always liked the katushya trucks because alot if not all of them were made by studebaker. In fact fun fact the Russians thought studebaker meant truck in america since that's all we have them. We found that out from our Ukraine neighbor. Fun fact for the day in case you didn't know already.
The NVA frequently used Chinese 107mm and Russian 122mm Katyusha rockets against us in Vietnam in 68-69 when I was there. They targeted large basecamps, much smaller firebases (FB), fire support bases (FSB), and night defensive perimeters (NDP). ... Of course, the rockets were relatively inaccurate, but powerful barrage weapons. From my perspective as a combat infantry NCO in III Corps, the enemy did not have the capability to deploy them in enough numbers to tip the firepower balance in the theater into their favor. To Army infantrymen in III Corps at that time, the communist 82mm mortar was their most effective indirect fire weapon. The units I served in took lots of casualties from the mortars and zero casualties from their large rockets. ... Down at the infantry level, the RPG with B-40 antiarmor shaped charge warhead rockets was by far their most effective rocket weapon. We took lots of casualties from RPGs. When targeted by them at night, we called them Fat Tracers. ... I'm very happy to have survived that epochal time in my life.
@@martinmiller1087 Huh i wondered if they had rockets or not. Usually you might here about their anti aircraft defenses or something but never rockets. Thank you for sharing that with us as i learned something new today and more importantly thank you for your service to our country. Shame you had to go over there, but at least you made it home alive. Thanks again.
@@PennsyPappas ... I genuinely appreciate that Matthew. Thank you ... BTW: you can thank Lyndon Baines Johnson for my service - he drafted me! ... LOL
I've been waiting for someone to cover these ships! My father served on LSM(R)-194, and was on board when it was sunk by Kamikaze off Okinawa.
I have been waiting too. My dad was on LCI(g) 79. Also was at Okinawa on the “radar picket line”, which is where most LCI casualties were incurred, as a result of kamikaze planes, boats, and swimmers.
@@brianfergus839 My dad's ship was on Picket Station #1 when sunk. These ships didn't have much defense against air attack.
My Grandpa served aboard LSM(R)-527. He told me they were an ammo re-supply ship and when the war ended they were in Guam and there was no booze. I guess the crew was quite pissed about this.
@@tonyp4092 😆 They weren't taking care of priorities.
Holy s***t man that mustve been terrifying! My grandfather served in the marines as an artillery observer, I wonder what he thought when he saw these things in action preparing to land on Okinawa. Trying to picture what our forefather experienced during those times is unfathomable yet it's so fascinating to get some insight. My family and I never heard him speak a word about the war. I guess that says more than anything he could've ever told me what he'd been through 😥
Now that's what I call a blast from the past.
Literally.
Richard here. I served as Communication Officer on the USS Clarion River (LSMR 409), putting it back in commission at Hunters Point in mid-1965 and serving in Vietnam until transfer 1/67. During rocket and 5 in/38 shore bombardment mission, I served as OOD. Rockets were effective for LZ prep, call for fire out to 10,000 yards and close in H&I fire. We carried about 4000 rockets of 3 types: 2500, 5000 & 10,000 yard. We also carried about 1000 rounds of 5 in/38 ammo with an effective range of near 10 miles.
LT Carlsen, I served on the USS St Francis River (LSMR 525), from Nov 67-Oct 69. GMG3 Douglas (Duke) Carrington. Welcome home!
Watching Mark Felton videos is equal to attending University lectures. The fine details revealed are amazing and help to understand details about combat strategies.
i'm not sure which subject you followed at uni but there wasnt much focus on rocket launchers, more about socia-political aspects that lead to certain events, as much as i like history, i love marks channel (and the diversity of his subjects)
@@juki6377 My point obviously went over your head. Mark's videos is equal to a high level of instruction. Even better than a University of which I never attended nor did I ever need to.
It is facinating and overlooked aspects of ww2 like this that will get you to the big 7 figures!
According to my dad, my grandad used to have to load those British rocket launching ships during his time in the Navy. He said they were such a pain as you spent hours and hours loading them only for them all to be fired within a few minutes.
He served on many different landings like Salerno and sword beach but he was on a train to Scotland when the war ended and never stepped foot on a boat or abroad since, claiming that whenever he went abroad they were trying to shoot at him!
I have no doubt the assault waves appreciated your grandfather's hard work. When it comes to supporting fires, the equation is "P equals plenty."
Definitely a morale booster for the Landing Party. And it would certainly keep the enemies heads down for the duration. Great video!
Mark has taught me so much about history. So many people want to forget the history of our ancestors,but we must not forget our past or we will repeat it. Mark I thank you for teaching all of us about the forgotten history. Let’s get mark to 1 million subscribers!
Glad to see this episode. My father in WW2 installed the ship based rocket launchers while in the Navy at Pearl Harbor.
Mark continues to educate me on stuff I never knew.
I’ve seen those ship based rocket launchers in the past. They looked so devastating that they didn’t look “fair”.
The more I learn about history, the more I freaking love it lol.
I'm not a WW2-ophile, I prefer Royal Navy history from the 18th and 19th century, so I'd never seen the American dual rocket firing system. It is very impressive, especially as it was so incredibly effective. Thanks for a very educational video presentation. Well worth my time investment. 👍👍👍
Was the dual rocket launcher designed to look like a face? It has a nose and everything
I thought so 😂😂
its thomas the tank engine.
@@nathanadams6648 Thomas when he's cross
@@nathanadams6648 Thomas the Death Engine
The face of death to some.
That was the most informative thing I've ever seen, heard or read about rocket ships. It's as though no one before could have been bothered to cover them, but you did.
Thank you.
I know.! I've seen them in films for six decades but there was never any focus on what they were all.about.
Nothing like watching another amazing Mark Felton production while drinking my morning coffee. 🙂
Seems like Godzilla is just around the corner with these rocket ships sounding off.
Bridezilla
Holy crap, I was thinking the same thing.
More likely the trauma of the rockets sounds inspired the Japanese creators.
Even on film the sound chills you and I can't imagine being in the target zone.
@@thomasb1889 it does give you chills. It's not a boom sound like a cannon. It has that hiss sound.
If anyone is deserving of one million subscribers it's you Mark.
Thanks and have a great weekend.
Dr Felton strikes again with another marvelous detailed story !
I can't find any other videos about the Mk 102 rocket launcher. I love how he always finds footage of things I've never seen and probably won't ever find anywhere else. Great content.👍
Mark you are keeping history alive. Congratulations ! Your efforts are appreciated !
I love this channel I learn something new every episode.
My grandfather was a merchant marine in WWI. When WWII broke out he wanted to get back in the navy. They said he was too old. To which he said "Send me to boot camp. If I fail boot camp THEN I am too old." He made it in and was stationed on one of these Rocket LSM ships you showed in this clip. 'cept his was in the Pacific.
"When the world trembled at the shound of our rockets..."
-Capt. Marko Ramius, "The Hunt for Red October"
Misshile drillsh.
Another in-depth report from Professor Felton. Quality we have come to expect and Mark delivers! Thats a terrifying weapon. One no sane man would ever think of entertaining for even a moment.
Thanks Mark.
Cheers !
Gotta say, despite the shortcomings of those welded rocket launchers, they look much cooler when launching simultaneously than the automated ones.
They were valuable moral boosters to troops hitting the beaches.
I want one
Sort of. The automated ones look much more sinister and robotic. I like them.
I don't know, an orchestra of double launchers all firing twice, reloading in unison is amazing....But ,yeah...
Those welded tube ships look and sound awsum. I bet the enemy loved to watch any rocket ship perform....Just before diving into a cave.
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I wonder how they would have worked out as anti air rockets when fitted with proximity fuses
Mark, thank you SO much for your work. *THIS* is my principal reason for using RUclips.
My father (Lt jg Charles L. Fergus) served on LCI(g) 79, which was fitted with rocket launchers following the Aleutian campaign. He was CO of the vessel for the remainder of the war, and fought in the invasions of kuajalein, Saipan, Tinian, peleliu, and Okinawa.
While a typical amazing MF production, Mark failed to mention a couple of interesting features and facts concerning the LCIs. For one thing, they had flat bottoms, so that after discharging their rockets, they would run themselves up on the beach in order to allow the Marines (around 100) they also transported to wade to shore. The ship would then have to wait for high tide to get out of the shallows. Apparently there was a high degree of scorn directed from the Marines toward the sailors who delivered them, as they viewed their naval counterparts’ combat role as “cushy”. The flat bottoms made for very uncomfortable travel in rough seas, but on at least one occasion, a torpedo passed under the vessel without contacting the hull since the draft was so shallow.
Following the initial invasion of Okinawa, the LCIs were used as patrol boats (in addition to the rockets they were also fitted with 2 40mm and 4 20mm guns) around the island. It was here that most of the casualties were incurred, primarily as a result not only of kamikaze planes, but also kamikaze boats and swimmers.
Great stuff - keep up the good work Mark!
Man one bomb hits the deck of those ships and an entire grid square gets vaporized!! Love the videos!!
I never dug deep enough to understand why the Okinawa landing was unopposed. Now I know. That dual turret is amazing. Thanks for filling in this hole in my understanding of WW2. As I remember, my uncle was at Okinawa. He and 10 others survived out of the original platoon. Out of the eleven, he alone finished the campaign without a wound.
Mark Felton...you are my favorite military historian.I I am a Vietnam Vet 1968-1970.I participated in the 1969 nuclear attack on HANOI and the 120 mm atomic cannon barrage on Laos
This is amazing.I was only watching a DDay video recently and wondered how those rocket ships functioned.Low and behold up pops a Mark Felton video on the exact subject.Class video yet again.
The key word here is 'cheap' whereas nowadays weapon systems are so expensive that you can afford only a few or go bancrupt.
Thats because the way we conduct war has radically changed. There are no extensive defensive works or large troop movementd where you need a stellar amount of indiscriminate firepower. The wars we figth now need pinpoint accurate weapons that are able to take out foes that are in populated areas.
@@Thissa96 No, there will be two types of military wars. One is the kind you just described. The other will be conventional when you will need firepower to overwhelm or supress large formations of troops.
And then, of course, there still is the unconventional war that is led in the shadows.
@@thomas_jay i dont think a large conventional war between nations which includes one great power is possible anymore. That will be fought through proxy or would get nuclear uncomfortably quick.
@@Thissa96 The conventional war variant is quite possible in different regions, i.e US-China, Russia-EU /NATO, Saudi Arabia-Iran, Pakistan-India, US /S. Korea- N.Korea / China, (even China-Russia is possible as Russia occupies terrority whhich was formerly chinese). All it takes is one wrong step with the wrong politicians
@@thomas_jay China and North Korea as allies isn't feasible anymore, it would just be everybody invading north korea as quickly as possible.
Hard work pays off . Congratulations sir on your forthcoming milestone.
This guy deserves a reward for being one of the best youtubers
Another totally fascinating documentary with incredible footage . Imagine calculating the trigonometry from rocket to shore with fixed launchers on a moving ship . Distance to shore - Range of rocket and angle of launch . Imagine being in an aircraft anywhere near this barrage . The communications would have to be spot on .
Thank You once again Mr. Felton for another phenomenal history lesson . If you ever take requests - A history of trench knives , daggers , self made close quarter fighting weapons ... and particularly a trench knife named the French Nail .
All the best .
I think there's a presumption among many people out there that WW2 was primarily a gun war until the Japanese were nuked (excluding Nazi V rocket attacks on London of course)...soldiers, tanks, bomber squadrons, battleships and carriers make up most imagery of the war...it's the first time I've ever seen these semi automated rocket launcher turrets. Excellent video !
I am so glad I subscribed. I will be a New Patreon member soon, and your channel, out of all channels, deserves it!
Well done Mark. You are always able to find niches of World War Two history and make, what may seem mundane, interesting! Good luck, I hope you reach your goal. I have shared this with friends that I think may have an interest.
Another less known but very interesting bit of war weaponry. Enjoyed it immensely.
I dont know why but its incredibly satisfying watching massive rocket barrages.
1st time I've heard of these ships. Awesome work.
Thanks Dr. Felton for another extraordinary production. I wanted to know more about these ships since the 1970s when I came across an article, on an old 1950s Popular Mechanics magazine, regarding the USS Carronade LSM(Rocket). I wondered how the rocket launchers worked and their effect on beach landings. Now, in 2020 I finally have the answer thanks to you!! Another great work, I have been enjoying all Mark Felton videos, I learn a lot from them.
Brilliant as always! You are a truth teller of history, filling in the blanks in our knowledge!
Yet another Mark Felton revelation. I've never heard of these ships before, or the Mk. 102 rocket launcher. Keep it coming, Mr. Felton! You bombard us with fascinating details of WWII.
here we are folks, on another episodes, that we never know before if its because Mark
this is complete madness! that footage of the American launcher is bloody impressive. thanks for sharing Mark :D
Americans:
"So we take a Katyusha and we make everything 1000% bigger."
That is so cool. I knew that rocket ships were used during WW2 but i never knew that they developed a turret rocket launcher. Its amazing how technology advanced from the beginning of the war to the end of the war. Thank you for making these educational videos I've learned alot by watching them.
"Hey Johnny how many rocket launchers can we fit on the deck of this ship!?"
Johnny: "Yes"
Same answer as "How many Soldiers can get on a deuce-and-half truck?"
"All of them."
Well done job on another video. I am impressed with this history of rocket ships.
Mr. Felton - I want to thank you for all of your great research and videos. I wish that I had a history teacher as yourself when I was growing up. And I see that you are closing in on 1million subscribers! Congratulations in advance..
Mr. Felton, I want to thank you for you fabulous work on your research and narration of historical events. My father and I have been longtime fans. we are both veterans and apricate your attention to detail on the history of events . Thank you sir, my sons and I watch your channel to accurate explanation on events. Bravo!
You are very welcome
Rocket ships. Wonderful. Mark, you're almost 1 million now! Congratulations in advance! 🙂
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Growth has been rapid...people are savvy. Even Osama is a fan
I don’t think we should be giving him ideas
Thank you osama, very cool
There’s something about seeing Mark just staring at me at the beginning of the video is just amazing
About to close my eyes for sleep, nope need to know all about the rocket turrets and other vessels.
cheap to produce,
easy to use,
but most importantly:
not requiring massive crews.
beautiful piece of poetry Mr. Felton
amazing video as always
THE LEGEND HIMSELF MARK FELTON
May I compliment you for keeping for videos simple and straight to the point. No long intro/outro, no odd break in the narration, just the facts.
I'm a simple man, I see Mark Felton videos, I click.
It's got to be encouraging to see that number getting close. Happy for you Mark!
One of rocketships problems was the heating of the deck when the unleashed their rockets on the targets. The solution was pretty simple, hose the deck with seawater.
These turrets are new for me, and boy do they look sophisticated! Yes they do.
My dad (LCI 79 1942-1945) said the deck metal would get red hot
@@brianfergus839 I'll bet your dad was a dab hand at painting scorched metal. Thanks for sharing the memory.
Mark is the best history teller , I watch 2 or 3 clips before I sleep every night
Never get tired of the intro music, very epic sounding!
Dad saw these in the Pacific and said each it was pretty awesome to watch.
"Now, that's a lot of damage!"
Now*
Years ago I was buying a small truck and the salesman had a picture of one of the US rocket ships on his wall. He had served on it. I acknowledged it as being a “cool photo” and he said “I bet you don’t know what that is.” I had been fascinated by amphibious landings since I was a kid so knew a little bit; however, I said I didn’t because I wasn’t up on all the specific rocket variants landing ships the US developed. “....but maybe a landing ship rocket?” I asked (just replacing tank with rocket). He was was shocked someone of my age even came close to knowing what is was. Great episode Mark.
You've delivered so much historical info lately, that my head is in overload 😎
My father commanded LSMR 605 at war's end. He was on his way to support the invasion of Japan. I had NO idea that these ships were reconfigured and am assuming that his was as well. Thank you for enlightening me. Great work.
Happy Saturday! Yessss!
I knew rocket barage ships were a thing but I've never ever seen any real info on them before! That turret is sick, another great video Mark!
Was just about to go to sleep seeing it's 3:30am here in Western Canada but I guess I have time for new video !
There's always time
What town ?
Thank you Dr. Felton! 😁
And there was me hoping these were actually Rocket POWERED ships. Never mind.
Well the Japanese hoped that as well
@@andrewgraham6006Later they defended earth with Space Battleship Yamato.
Me too! Still a pretty satisfying story though.
Good one
Saturn five strapped to a carrier eh? - nice bow wave & who needs catapults?!
you are bringing non sensationalist, real history to A MILLION!! congratulations
And I thought Diwali was long past. Good job Mr Felton.
Never saw that rocket system launching, good footage Mark.
Everyone who subscribed before 1 million is part of the Old Guard
Cool :) i feel important now.
It is such a great honor 😊
I guess I'm the Old Guard now
Excellent!!!!! I feel so powerful!!!
I wonder who was the first to subscribe ?
At first i thought those twin rocket launchers were binoculars akin to those near tourist attractions/landmarks. Such a wicked design and i love it.
Nice find. At a glimpse from 2020, the amount of automation and systems integration looks impressive. Dr Felton could you make a similar video about the B-29 Bomber from a similar view point as it too was more formally identified as a integrated weapons system rather than as a Bomber please?
Professor Felton never ceases to amaze me with these awesome videos.
Most entertaining and interesting history channel
As always, great stuff Mark. Keep it up!
What you don't mention is that the Rocket Ships deployed on D-Day failed almost completely. The idea was that, as well as destroying German positions, that they would provide lots of shell-holes for the infantry to shelter in. In the event almost every rocket landed short.
Lessons were learned, of course, leading to Rocket ships being much more effective in the Pacific in 1945.
Shelling for shelter
How fascinating Mark! Another high-quality Mark Felton Production - Bravo!!
I knew about rocket ships on a very limited scale.... I didn't realize they developed into the versatile weapon they did. That is interesting about Okinawa... I was station there in the 80's for 18 months and extensively toured the island to visit the various locations of the battlefields - which was virtually the entire island (at least southern 1/3).