@@TinyBearTim yeah kinda ish but the problem with prop planes are thier pickup speed cus once a Spitfire or a Mustang looses some speed while turning it takes them a lot of time to get that speed back but jets on the other hand had no problem with this other than not able to turn fight prop planes
Grumman team: "the model (unarmed with out guns or a bomb load and made up of99% wood with no tubular steel framing and no metal jet blades) had moderate stealth characteristics" How the writers see it: the horten 229 was an advanced stealth fighter that could break through the British home island radar chain undetected
Yes they are where do you think the scientist in America come from they come from Germany and also Britain they can’t do anything on there own just look at Americans cars etc there all shite
@@dennism2336 thats exactly why the B2 spirit and B21 raider are all so so close to looking like the horten where do you thing they got the idea for the coating and keeping the engines inside with inlets ... so stupid
3:08 "For the last six decades the only surviving Horton 229 has been hidden in the shadows away from prying eyes." Lol, it was in Chicago sitting outside on display in plain view before being moved to the Smithsonian's restoration facility where it sat in a corner for 6 decades.
+@red94mr28 The Smithsonian stored it in a wooden crate without climate control (possibly outside some) from the 1950s until the 1970s when it was moved into storage at Garber. That's why the wood structure has turned to powder from fungus rot.
@@FiveCentsPlease Go to the Smithsonian site and search. It was sitting in the corner of the restoration facility where people were restoring other artifacts in climate controlled buildings. What, you think the people restoring items didn't have heat in the winter or A/C in the summer??
@@red94mr28 Let me clarify this for you. This is from a research study of the aircraft and the preservation. From "Technical Study of the Bat Wing Ship (The Horten Ho 229 V3)", authors Lauren Horelick, Malcolm Collum, Peter McElhinney, Anna Weiss, Russell Lee, and Odile Madden from The American Institute for Conservation of History and Artistic Works, 2014. Note this passage: "The National Air Museum (as NASM was called then) acquired the Horten in 1952 when there was a shortage of storage facilities. Consequently, it sat outdoors in wooden crates from 1952 until 1974, and that is where most of its condition issues originate. Extensive plywood veneer delamination, material loss, biological growth, and coating delamination are evident throughout the aircraft. The metal components are corroded, fasteners have failed, and numerous small parts are missing."
+ chumley warner The V3 never flew at all. It was incomplete when it was found in the Gotha factory and the wings were 75 miles away. The US gave it to the British to study over the summer of 1945 and there was some discussion of attempting flight from both the British and the Americans but it did not fly. Northrop had their own flying wing designs and it is likely that Arnold spotted a test flight.
@@FiveCentsPlease The similarity in silhouette struck me too, but I believe that Arnold claimed to have seen five or more crescent-shaped craft flying in formation. Their trajectory wasn't regular either. I very much doubt that either Northrop or the US Army Air Force of the time would have had so many trustworthy prototypes. 👽
The engines were last suppoded between 20 and 30 hours they were lucky to get 10, same with the 266. Useless, as a realistic combat aircraft. The Mosquito also had a low Radar reflective capability. An interesting aircraft, but the Horten was totally impractical.
it had stealth features, because it was made of wood. but also the coating, to some extent, showed stealth features. so the constructors indeed wanted to make the Ho229 a stealth jet fighter. the biggest problem for the german Luftwaffe, especially during the Battle over Britain, was not the british planes but their more advanced Radar system. so it made sense, to experiment on something new to counter this problem.
American are crying that this plane wasn’t a stealth fighter and that the ho-229 didn’t inspire the B-2, watch the hole documentary, the Northrop engineers that worked on the B-2 admitted during the documentary that the 229 was indeed the first stealth fighter and an inspiration for the B-2
+ @Chuck Norris The 229 was never designed to avoid radar detection and it wasn't a fighter. The Horten brothers were prototyping a bomber using tailless aircraft theories from the 1920s and 1930s, which were low drag, fuel efficiency, and speed.
Rather than being designed with a low radar signature, I've always assumed that the Germans were running low on aluminium and skilled fabricators. And of course, on locations to build them. But hell - they led the world.
@@jadgpanzerkid that has loads of computers controlling it so it don’t spin 1 person with no computer would have to fly in a dogfight while controlling the yaw
@@macmac0712 dont forget that its a prototype and nearly none were built other than just 1. and the fact that an alloy frame would break under pressure. so b2 still wins since theres more itterations and more of it. though the thing is, i beleive horten wins. but at the same time i doubt that it would. its a mix of emotions
And the Americans are thinking: " Uhhh, what is it? Are the Krauts smart enough to build something like this? The answer to these irritatingly stupid questions is YES, WE GERMANS WERE SMART ENOUGH TO BUILD THIS. After all, we Germans put the first men on the moon.
@@FiveCentsPlease Agreed BUT the Northop was Piston- powered, whereas the Horten was jet-powered. A huge difference in performance. Check out the RUclips video the mock-up of the Horten that was built by the Northrop-Grumann skunk works. They tested the Horten's stealth capabilities.
@@christianguenther1276 The Horten brothers started with piston and glider versions too. They should get credit for flying a wing with jet engines first and for the aerodynamic and flight control experiments. Stealth wasn't their motive, more coincidental and wishful thinking years later. Flying wing theories were speed and fuel efficiency, not avoiding radar. Northrop's work was slowed down by sub-contractor infighting and because it was a much larger design. And his work unfortunately cut short by politics and money by the first Sec. of the new Air Force.
@@FiveCentsPlease Brothers Horten worked under pressure, in worse circumstances, and still better then the others.Why don't you admit that germans are the best in science.
@@dimitrijestankovic6199 They didn't invent the flying wing. They didn't invent stealth. Neither did the Germans or the Americans. The brothers deserve every credit for their ideas and innovation but there has been far too much mystique around what was just an experimental development program that didn't get past infancy before the war ended.
@@MageOtter27 Put "Hitler" in front of anything to make it sound sinister. Goering approved the project and it wasn't for stealth or for a fighter. May as well be Hitler's toilet brush.
+ Alexander Holtmann The V3 third prototype that survives was not an armed prototype. It was unfinished and never flown. Inside the Gotha workshop where the V3 was found in mid-April 1945 were three more prototypes under construction and I think one of those had mounts for cannons. I'm pretty sure that the remaining three prototypes were destroyed in place by Patton's forces or Allied intelligence as the fall of Germany accelerated.
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@@Richardbottlik It wasn't a fighter and stealth was not part of the design. Low radar profile was inherent to flying wings. The 229 program was designing a medium bomber and it only achieved three different prototypes.
@@FiveCentsPlease Horten brothers did not wanted to build stealth plane at first but after V2 prototype they found that it have much smaller radar detection than normal plane. So if it will be used in 1945/46 it could be a first stealth plane.You can watch a video about how they made a replica (not flyworthy) and test it on radar.
Most exotic machine in Germany it was the most advanced in the world
Garrett Johnson I saw a similar plan like this in Captain America the first avenger movie.
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Göring's 1000/1000/1000 airplane:
1000km/h, 1000 km range, 1000 kg of bomb weight.
The wet dream of my country's ruling powers of their day.
Jet bombers always carry these loads and maintain the speed or can even go higher even strike jets can take go at beyond these speeds
@@theidiotictroublemaker2281 in ww2 this would have been a good 100+mph faster than most fighters
@@TinyBearTim yeah kinda ish but the problem with prop planes are thier pickup speed cus once a Spitfire or a Mustang looses some speed while turning it takes them a lot of time to get that speed back but jets on the other hand had no problem with this other than not able to turn fight prop planes
There is probably more stuff like that in area 51
they moved most of the stuff away decades ago because Area 51 was drawing too much public attention.
Grumman team: "the model (unarmed with out guns or a bomb load and made up of99% wood with no tubular steel framing and no metal jet blades) had moderate stealth characteristics"
How the writers see it: the horten 229 was an advanced stealth fighter that could break through the British home island radar chain undetected
+@Catsrule1132 On the original, the engines were wrapped in steel panels front-to-back for fire protection. That's a big reflector.
The us stealth bombers are all based on the horten
No they aren’t.
Yes they are where do you think the scientist in America come from they come from Germany and also Britain they can’t do anything on there own just look at Americans cars etc there all shite
Right, we all know they’re based on the ground.
No they're not lol
@@dennism2336 thats exactly why the B2 spirit and B21 raider are all so so close to looking like the horten where do you thing they got the idea for the coating and keeping the engines inside with inlets ... so stupid
German Engineering is good then lol
They were the first in space, and many rocket scientist of the us and soviet were ex-nazi germans transported to then
@@kilianfirebolt Germany invented the modern world u can say.
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3:08 "For the last six decades the only surviving Horton 229 has been hidden in the shadows away from prying eyes." Lol, it was in Chicago sitting outside on display in plain view before being moved to the Smithsonian's restoration facility where it sat in a corner for 6 decades.
+@red94mr28 The Smithsonian stored it in a wooden crate without climate control (possibly outside some) from the 1950s until the 1970s when it was moved into storage at Garber. That's why the wood structure has turned to powder from fungus rot.
@@FiveCentsPlease Go to the Smithsonian site and search. It was sitting in the corner of the restoration facility where people were restoring other artifacts in climate controlled buildings. What, you think the people restoring items didn't have heat in the winter or A/C in the summer??
@@red94mr28 Let me clarify this for you. This is from a research study of the aircraft and the preservation. From "Technical Study of the Bat Wing Ship (The Horten Ho 229 V3)", authors Lauren Horelick, Malcolm Collum, Peter McElhinney, Anna Weiss, Russell Lee, and Odile Madden from The American Institute for Conservation of History and Artistic Works, 2014. Note this passage: "The National Air Museum (as NASM was called then) acquired the Horten in 1952 when there was a shortage of storage facilities. Consequently, it sat outdoors in wooden crates from 1952 until 1974, and that is where most of its condition issues originate. Extensive plywood veneer delamination, material loss, biological growth, and coating delamination are evident throughout the aircraft. The metal components are corroded, fasteners have failed, and numerous small parts are missing."
"Secret government warehouse" you mean the Smithsonian restoration facility in Maryland
Right next to the Ark of the Covenant.
t says here that it never flew over the USA , checkout Kenneth Arnold sighting 1947
+ chumley warner The V3 never flew at all. It was incomplete when it was found in the Gotha factory and the wings were 75 miles away. The US gave it to the British to study over the summer of 1945 and there was some discussion of attempting flight from both the British and the Americans but it did not fly. Northrop had their own flying wing designs and it is likely that Arnold spotted a test flight.
@@FiveCentsPlease Well all I can say is the drawing looks nothing like a Northrop wing non of his had that classic tail.
@@FiveCentsPlease The similarity in silhouette struck me too, but I believe that Arnold claimed to have seen five or more crescent-shaped craft flying in formation. Their trajectory wasn't regular either. I very much doubt that either Northrop or the US Army Air Force of the time would have had so many trustworthy prototypes. 👽
Great documentary
The engines were last suppoded between 20 and 30 hours they were lucky to get 10, same with the 266. Useless, as a realistic combat aircraft. The Mosquito also had a low Radar reflective capability. An interesting aircraft, but the Horten was totally impractical.
Dafaq? Ho229 wasn't a stealth plane at all.
+ Error: Name Not Found Correct, it was not.
it had stealth features, because it was made of wood. but also the coating, to some extent, showed stealth features. so the constructors indeed wanted to make the Ho229 a stealth jet fighter. the biggest problem for the german Luftwaffe, especially during the Battle over Britain, was not the british planes but their more advanced Radar system. so it made sense, to experiment on something new to counter this problem.
American are crying that this plane wasn’t a stealth fighter and that the ho-229 didn’t inspire the B-2, watch the hole documentary, the Northrop engineers that worked on the B-2 admitted during the documentary that the 229 was indeed the first stealth fighter and an inspiration for the B-2
+ @Chuck Norris The 229 was never designed to avoid radar detection and it wasn't a fighter. The Horten brothers were prototyping a bomber using tailless aircraft theories from the 1920s and 1930s, which were low drag, fuel efficiency, and speed.
The ho-229 did not have any anti-radar capabilities
I think you are the one coping lmao
Rather than being designed with a low radar signature, I've always assumed that the Germans were running low on aluminium and skilled fabricators. And of course, on locations to build them. But hell - they led the world.
Can't trust any 'truth' from this company. They're great at suing anyone who exposes them though.
How would a pilot even get this thing to turn without going in to a flat spin
That’s like asking how a b2 spirit turn
@@jadgpanzerkid that has loads of computers controlling it so it don’t spin 1 person with no computer would have to fly in a dogfight while controlling the yaw
You’ve got a point. But I guess they are stable anyway because they would have thought of that too.
ho 229 is not the only fighter made in wood. the de havalen mosketo fighter/boomer is one to.
can it fly to hawaii non stop?
*interested japanese noises*
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Horton 229 vs the u2 spy plane
ho229 sadly loses. it can only 1000kmph but its original designers could take it and remake it to make it better
@Tiny Dood Dan “only” 1000kmph? the u2 could only do like 450 and plus the u2 has like 0 weapons
@@macmac0712 dont forget that its a prototype and nearly none were built other than just 1. and the fact that an alloy frame would break under pressure. so b2 still wins since theres more itterations and more of it. though the thing is, i beleive horten wins. but at the same time i doubt that it would. its a mix of emotions
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And the Americans are thinking: " Uhhh, what is it? Are the Krauts smart enough to build something like this? The answer to these irritatingly stupid questions is YES, WE GERMANS WERE SMART ENOUGH TO BUILD THIS. After all, we Germans put the first men on the moon.
+ Christian Guenther Northrop started building his YB-35 in 1941, years before the Horten brothers began their 229 program.
@@FiveCentsPlease Agreed BUT the Northop was Piston- powered, whereas the Horten was jet-powered. A huge difference in performance. Check out the RUclips video the mock-up of the Horten that was built by the Northrop-Grumann skunk works. They tested the Horten's stealth capabilities.
@@christianguenther1276 The Horten brothers started with piston and glider versions too. They should get credit for flying a wing with jet engines first and for the aerodynamic and flight control experiments. Stealth wasn't their motive, more coincidental and wishful thinking years later. Flying wing theories were speed and fuel efficiency, not avoiding radar. Northrop's work was slowed down by sub-contractor infighting and because it was a much larger design. And his work unfortunately cut short by politics and money by the first Sec. of the new Air Force.
@@FiveCentsPlease Brothers Horten worked under pressure, in worse circumstances, and still better then the others.Why don't you admit that germans are the best
in science.
@@dimitrijestankovic6199 They didn't invent the flying wing. They didn't invent stealth. Neither did the Germans or the Americans. The brothers deserve every credit for their ideas and innovation but there has been far too much mystique around what was just an experimental development program that didn't get past infancy before the war ended.
This clip is stolen from a National Geografic doku, about building a replica and test it foe stealth abillities....
Do you have a link to the Doku because I would be interested
I did wonder what became of the rest of this documentary !
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Its not a stealth figher lmao
Its not a full fledged stealth fighter as the f22 or su 52 but because of the shape the thing is very hard to read in a radar!
@@theidiotictroublemaker2281 yeah i know but i wanna say it was accidentaly "stealth"
@@MageOtter27 yeah u can say that cus it was accidental
@@theidiotictroublemaker2281 yep
@@MageOtter27 Put "Hitler" in front of anything to make it sound sinister. Goering approved the project and it wasn't for stealth or for a fighter. May as well be Hitler's toilet brush.
.........Beaucoup de documentaires dur le HO 229, une autre bonne vidéo, mais........le Horten était un avion furtif ???
It was a "stealth Plane" because the shape made it harder to pickup on radar
where is the real ho 229 v3 cannons?
+ Alexander Holtmann The V3 third prototype that survives was not an armed prototype. It was unfinished and never flown. Inside the Gotha workshop where the V3 was found in mid-April 1945 were three more prototypes under construction and I think one of those had mounts for cannons. I'm pretty sure that the remaining three prototypes were destroyed in place by Patton's forces or Allied intelligence as the fall of Germany accelerated.
Horten ho 229
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so this is the b2 design is from...:D
No
It's not.
It’s not a stealth fighter.
Yes it was a first stealth fighter
@@Richardbottlik It wasn't a fighter and stealth was not part of the design. Low radar profile was inherent to flying wings. The 229 program was designing a medium bomber and it only achieved three different prototypes.
@@FiveCentsPlease Horten brothers did not wanted to build stealth plane at first but after V2 prototype they found that it have much smaller radar detection than normal plane. So if it will be used in 1945/46 it could be a first stealth plane.You can watch a video about how they made a replica (not flyworthy) and test it on radar.
@@FiveCentsPlease it was a fighter bomber
Was” not will
Horten
german blod tho
Nonsense. Absolute nonsense.
German engineering NO 1 . Soviet NO2. Others copy them . Lol.
b2
Nope