I agree....Charlie nailed his understanding and empathy for the situation. You can see from Rens work the influence Plan B (references him in Hi Ren) had on his music. Plan B has an album called Ill Manors, which is the soundtrack to a film called Ill Manors (in a similar way to Eminem 8 Mile). The film focuses on the cycle of life repeating itself. Exactly what Charlie references when watching this. (Plan B wrote, directed, produced the film and composed the soundtrack to the film). I have watched a fair few reactions to this (like most) and very few pick up on this. Most British people in the UK will know Ill Manors, both the film and the album. US fans out there should put it on their watchlist/playlist if you like Rens stuff. (It can be a hard watch with some very tough scenes). If you watch it, you will see instantly. What made me realise this is another reactor mentioned that in Jenny's tale the cadence/flow is similar to Renegade by Warren G and Nate Dog. That's a song about thieves going out robbing people with knives. (Shows the depths of Rens production). It is clearly intentional. So then I tried to work out if the flow of Screeches tale matches any song about rage/panic/ego. (I couldn't work it out), but did lead me to Ill Manors and does mirror parts of the film. Even the filming of stopping to make the phone call in the middle of the song, you'll hear similar things on the Ill Manors album. I wouldn't be surprised if Violets tale has a cadence/flow matching a song somewhere. But again can't work it out. Everything's intentional when it comes to Ren. He's a genius.
Amazing reaction and analysis. Like many other Ren fans, I've actually, literally watched hundreds of reactions to Ren's music over the past 2 years. Charlie's background and experience, as well as his empathy make this one of the most informative and entertaining reactions I've seen. If anyone mentions the issues with the audio, yes I could hear that, but it didn't detract from the experience. Thanks for this video, and for your support for Ren. I hope you continue to analyze Ren's videos as long as you enjoy doing it. And thanks for trusting Ren fans enough to make a longer video. No need to be concerned that you'll bore us, that won't happen.
Heyyy thank you for this wonderful comment... yeah the audio was the best I could manage with what happened... won't be a thing going forward, we learn :) but all things considered, THANK you!
@CharlieCalottaReacts given the setting of the music video, the "imperfections and flaws" were almost ironically perfect. The authenticity that is communicated is what draws us in. The truth that is presented becomes more profound than just the words and images. The sum becomes exponentially more than the parts. Thank you for sharing this step of your journey with us.
@@CharlieCalottaReacts This video is brilliantly produced. Just brilliantly. You've echoed the mastery of Ren in the formatting and editing. Bravo sir. Ren is the kind of genius that enables genius.
Everyone gives flowers to Ren for an incredible performance, and yes, rightfully so. But can we just talk about how Sam is walking backwards up stairs while keeping Ren in frame and not falling on his ass? Exceptional.
It really is. You welcomingly use your vocabulary to clearly and creatively describe these great musical moments for listeners who are music lovers and not necessarily musicians ourselves. Thank you!
I don't often undertake watching a 90 minute reaction video, but I clicked on this one the second I saw it. I'm only one minute in, and I don't care how long it is, I'm in 100%.
This is exactly what I thought when I just realized how long this will be. I'm 9 mins in, and I'll watch it all for sure. I'm loving the vocalization breakdowns here. Two professionals using their experience to educate. Love it.
This hit my RUclips recommendation, and I thought, "Oh hell no, I don't have an hour and a half!" And I didn't watch. Then I saw a Renegade posted it in the Ren's Rabbit Hole Facebook group and recommended it, in its entirety, but then said a listener could exit around the 45 minute mark and I thought, "Well, maybe. I can always fast forward." (I've seen sooo many reactions, and I dislike it when people pause every 3 seconds and cheat themselves of a chance to even understand what's happening.) So today is a lazy Sunday. You popped up again, and I thought, "Ok, I'll watch part of it." And here I am at the end, having fast-forwarded through absolutely nothing. Brilliantly done! Even after all the reactions I've seen and all the Renegade discussions of these masterpieces, you still brought new thoughts and nuances I hadn't heard before. And my mad respect for the boi continues to grow. New sub. And I'm headed back to put your, "Hi Ren," reaction in my Watch Later list! ❤
That genius behind the camera is Samuel Perry-Falvey. I really appreciate the time and thought you put into this. It's one of the best analyses of this video I've ever seen.
Totally agree they added to what was already a masterpiece with great insight and recognition of how the whole piece is just great art work top to bottom. If you haven't seen Maria's reaction on her channel that is another really good one too.. worth checking out.
Again, you guys are great together. Best Ren Reaction duo I've seen so far, and I've seen 1000's of Ren reactions... huge Ren reactions junkie (and critic 🤭).
@@CharlieCalottaReactsyour insights bring a proper new dimension to these tracks, as that's where your skillset lies. There are so many reactions to this but having 2 people who are hearing (and seeing) new angles is unusual, so likely to get lots of shares, despite the length
Listening to your breakdown was like dining in a 5 star restaurant. Deliciously taking in with each stop interpretation. Thank you both for this serious treatment of a genius artist, Ren.
So true.. we know the foods going to be great.. but then the presentation and attention to detail of the staff creates that atmosphere that enriches the experience. Nicole and Charlie are like master chefs coming out to our table to explain the details and thoughts that went into creating the meal. Combinations of herbs and spices and portions delicately put together for our enjoyment. Love this Comment.. agree 100 percent.. and thank you to Nicole and Charlie for everything they bring to the table in these reactions.
Goddam, the only thing better than an expert loving and geeking out about something I love, and giving me expert insight into through the lens of their expertise - is *two* experts brainstorming! Thanks Charlie - I've been a RENegade for....A While now, watched untold numbers of reactions to him, and you two together have given me an even *deeper* appreciation for the artistry here. Thanks so much for being so generous sharing yourself (yourselves!) with all us Internet Randos out here.
The bit near the end, talking of screech and how art is meant to yield empathy and teach empathy for All people. I think that’s a big part of the Ren effect and certainly demonstrated by the Renagades. Switching hearts open and dialing the personal judgement down. Saving the judgement for the concepts like corruption and greed
You are quickly becoming one of my favorite reactors! Your insights are fantastic and I really enjoy watching you experiencing a Ren song for the first time! Cant wait to see what you think of the Money Game trilogy...
This may sound weird. But I love you both. How deeply you feel music. Knowing exactly how music is able to affect one's mood, thought process, and how the world is viewed. Thank you for this reaction. Thank you.
I totally agree with you. I honestly think that their combination of knowledge, experiences from their professional backgrounds and just the fact that they are willing to put themselves out here and just be their authentic selves makes them great reactors. They may not have known it as they entered into their professions that they were building damn near perfect reactors. To steal a line from Harry Mack on Omegle bars 85 which if Nicole sees this put it on your wheel.. lol.. But as Harry told LB.. YOU ARE RIGHT WERE YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE. I'm new to seeing Charlie but immediately subscribed when I saw their reaction to Hi Ren.. and this one was really something. I ALSO JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU BOTH FOR THIS REACTION.
He actually wrote Violet's Tale years after because he felt like it was missing something. Love the change in acoustics when he goes down the hall. You should watch Money Game 1,2 and 3. That's not a personal tale as much as a lesson and speaking out against corruption. He translates his passions so eloquently.
Ren was exposed to storytelling with music when he attended folk music festivals with his parents as a child. He's a master of the medium. Fun side note. The hospital room is the bike storage room in a friend's apartment building. They moved everything behind the curtain. Ren wasn't paying attention when he ordered the bed online. They discovered it was a child's bed and Ren is over 6 ft tall. One of his buddies made a riser for it. You and Nicole are fabulous together! I recommend that you two react to Chalk outlines (live) and How to Be Me (live)
100% ... The money game trilogy is amazing, especially the final part! *IMPORTANT NOTE:* It should be mentioned that the second part has two versions! Accidentally getting the _'wrong one'_ has tripped up a few reaction channels already. So if you see Ren walking down a beach, STOP immediately! Get the other one... the one you want is a 'lyric video' made up of clips - NOT a live action : )
You taking time after the first listens, and coming back with real insights; it's one of the first times that I've seen someone do this on a way that just felt real. You needed that time; it wasn't for effect, it was to process what you just went through in a productive way, and you hit me with some real inspiration after you did
I've heard Ren characterize his style as Bard-core, and this work absolutely epitomizes that feeling. I really loved your analysis. I watch a lot of reactors to Ren, I absolutely love your analysis.
The tragedy is deepened somehow by the ages. And what’s unsaid. Jenny and Screech were *both* 14. Both children of the streets. Jenny in high heels walking streets she’d walked a thousand times or more, wanting to escape. Screech threatening to slice the rosy off her cheeks. The heavy makeup. A 14yo girl out late, unprotected, too dolled up, certainly implies the oldest profession. Then Violet, escaping to a subsidised housing situation at 16. They don’t give you those places just because you leave home. She was pregnant, likely by her father, and then got a job and a flat to escape, meeting Stevie afterwards. Stevie calls her a liar and a slut, and has so much anger. Maybe because she was so very pregnant and they’d not known each other long enough for that. She was a quiet girl, hiding her pain. Did Stevie know about her dad? I’m not excusing him, but I love that Ren includes enough to allow him some humanity, too, if you look hard enough. He wasn’t likely much older than Violet’s 16 or 17 by the time he killed her. Then the generational cycles. All the women in this tale cope by freezing, fleeing or fawning. Jenny freezes. Violet flees. Violet’s mother dissociates, drinks and caters to her husband. All silent. The men fight and predate, with immature views of “manliness”. Violet’s father, who is maybe Jenny and Screech’s father too, beats and sexually assaults her, likely her mother too. Stevie is comfortable for Violet as they repeat the patterns she’s familiar with, and beats and ultimately kills her. Screech, too, is playing at being “a man”, unable to handle the perceived challenge of disrespect by Jenny’s noncompliance, his girlfriend’s rejection, the policeman’s assumed authority, and his immature machismo gets him killed. All human. No monsters. That’s the scariest thing of all. The things we as human beings are capable of. It demands empathy and attention from us as a society to all of the people involved in every day dramatic struggles. It’s all too easy to do as the narrator almost mockingly does and shrug out an, “oh, it’s such a shame,” and move on, and if everyone does, nothing will ever change.
Just as a “little” note addendum to your fantastic breakdown to some of my observations- it was the news and the public’s reaction “it’s such a shame” to the news of the death of some woman who was stabbed by some guy, that affected REN so much that he wrote this anthology of a song. There are so MANY little “accidents” that he takes advantage of, like stepping into the spooky green light when Violet dies. The way the narrator voice begins narrating with a sigh exhalation when he narrates the death of each player, like it is the final breath of each, just as much as it is the narrator sighing about the tragedy. Even the graffiti on the walls seem to signify, in Jenny there are dark images and sad images of women on the walls, with screech the walls have images of young punks more punk like graffiti. And all somehow so desolate, until I begin to feel like the graffiti on the walls are ghosts themselves, people’s stories written on the walls, crammed on top of each other into a cacophony of different stories of people long gone.
Loved watching this with you two so much! My favorite Ren reactions are always with experts in their field, whether that’s cinematographers, musicians, vocalists, seasoned rappers, producers, or theatre folks because you bring such a high level of appreciation, insight, and analysis. This was by far my favorite breakdown of The Tales, and I’ve seen dozens. You hit so many different angles and illuminated things I’ve never heard spoken of before, namely the composition and structure from a theatrical and classical point of view. As much as I love the cerebral elements, I also love how you both brought so much humanity to the experience, even allowing space to process and come back. So refreshing to see you give the piece and yourselves that space to breathe. As a side gig, my husband and I are theater critics and cover Broadway touring shows, Opera, ballet, and shows for two local professional performing arts companies in Nashville. I haven’t been this captivated by a singular artist, ever! It’s really fun to experience his art afresh with intuitive artists such as yourself. I look forward to continuing this journey with you!
Hey this is so cool! I lived in Nashville for 4 years (was a student at Vandy where I got my undergrad) and I was just there for a cousin's wedding. Nashville Opera is an awesome place!
Small world! Yes, Nashville Opera is really special. Just covered their innovative and stunning production of Carmen. Also, anchor down 😉! Looking forward to the next reaction. Love the podcast and/or livestream idea too.
Your reactions to this piece of art just made me realize something. I have always been upset that Ren is not super crazy famous! But seeing your reactions made me think that Ren is probably more pleased with the reactions his art has on humanity than the foundations of the music industry!
I feel like a horrible renegade fan when I find myself hoping that he doesn’t get so crazy famous that he stops doing what he does with so little money but mad loads of talent and art. Sure CGI and a symphony and a hundred actors could enlarge and embellish this story, but it couldn’t be made better with money, it is so haunting, “bare” lonely and “accidental”…
I’d not noticed the AC/DC Thunderstruck similarity until you mentioned it… now I can’t unhear it! Spectacular reaction guys. You’ve done Ren and Sam proud by putting as much of your heart and soul into this reaction as they do their art. ❤️🤘
A little subtle and genious inscinuation in Screeche's tale. I didn't come up with this, I read it in a comment on another video so I won't take credit but it's a very clever theory. -Screech knocks on Patricks door but Patrick is not at home. -Ren as the narrator says: "No refuge for our villain, for the bitter hands of faith Have something far more sinister in mind, that does await" (impecable example of foreshadowing) -He then calls his girlfriend in an attemt to find refuge elsewhere but she says she is "busy" The theory is that Patrick was not home and his girlfriend was "busy" because his girlfrend was cheating on him with his friend Patrick. Also Screech inherited his father's violence and Jenny inherited her mother's silence! Amazing reaction and analysis Charlie and Nicole. Much love from a Greek Renegade!
They did this prequel video as a promotion for the Tales, which hints at some of this and also gives more context and depth to it than just she was cheating on him (along with plenty other prequel insight) 🙂👍 ruclips.net/video/BICvZAS1FR0/видео.html
These were the best breakdowns I’ve seen of these videos yet and I’ve seen probably a hundred! Amazing job and I sure hope there will be lots more Ren reactions to come!!!
Aside from some audio problems/lagging I thoroughly enjoyed the reaction. I loved that you took time to step aside and process what you'd just seen. The in the moment reactions were fantastic, but sometimes we need to step back and process. Keep it up.
I have watched 100's of reactions of Jenny and Screech and I've never myself noticed, nor had anyone point out, the musical foreshadowing at the start of Violet's Tale. Genius.
I was shocked when Ren said Screech was based on an exaggerated version of himself at 14! Also, there are small instagram stories that Ren made, that go before and I believe in between the tales. (Been a while since I've seen them) one of the things they cover is that Patrick is with Screech's girlfriend when he's knocking on his door, and it's why his girl is busy when he calls her. I need to rewatch them, I can't remember if there's anything else. One thing I noticed that isn't talked about much, towards the end when Ren gets back to Violet at the hospital while she's bleeding out, Ren is bathed in a deep red light. But when he sings "Violet's world turned to black..." the light changes to a blue- green. A hue normally associated with death. Wonderful reaction and discussion you guys!! I'd love for you two to react to Ren's "Fred Again Mashup" -I highly recommend listening to a little bit of Fred Again before you do the reaction, so you can feel the full weight of Ren's astonishing creativity! Ren's version is so beautiful, it really shows off Ren's voice and guitar skills. They filmed this one live in Ren's Calgary, Canada apartment, while he was being treated for his illness. Love you guys!!
Your reactions are so in tune with the experience so many get from seeing so much of REN’s work. His art touches people in a way very few can, great to see the visceral reaction in you guys I experienced.
Great reaction from both of you. Love the way you dissect it, so different from other reactors. Ren is such an amazing artist and story teller. I still cry to Violets tale after watching it a number of times. Such an amazing tale. Welcome to the world of Ren ❤
Commenting before the premiere and I've no idea how you would both feel about this but having Nicole guide you through the insane repertoire and catalog of Ren with joint reactions is a really great watch and I'd love this to be a "thing" going forward. I'm sure I'll be back later to comment some more once the premiere airs.
You two are are great together! I can't believe I watched a hour and half reaction....I was riveted!! With your descriptions and musical expertise awesome watch!!
Absolutely fantastic reaction guys!❤ I love a professional view bc you can really appreciate the incredible intricacies of this piece. The seagulls in Violet's tale were there already but i reckon Ren allowed them to be heard in the mix to add to the 'reality' hitting Stevie of the situation. All three tales were filmed in Ren's seaside town of Brighton, so seagulls are everywhere. Ren has said in an interview that he mixes and edits the sound himself after recording his live stuff, so it makes sense he would remove external sounds that interfere with the storytelling but allows others through he does want. Did you know that Sir Andrew Lloyd-Webber said in social media that he thought Ren was the best storyteller of a generation (or something along those lines)? Ren wants to give us Patrick's tale but also a new set of tales based on Van Gogh. Unfortunately, Ren's health has taken a terrible turn for the worse this week and he's had to put everything on hold for now. I'm still excited though. Happy to wait for future masterpieces ❤
@@CharlieCalottaReacts he's home from the hospital for the accident he had but he will have to go back to Canada for treatment as it turns out the last treatment didn't work.
Patrick’s tale (and the tale of Screech’s girlfriend) are somewhat told in a series of Instagram stories which are collected here on RUclips. He made them leading up to the release of Screech’s tale. If you’re a Ren completist you have to watch them…I’ll dig up the link.
In my early teens I found Bob Dylan and his amazing writing.. I feel that I have now found the modern day Dylan.. in the sense that his work can't be put into one Genre of music, plus his story telling as you said is right there with the Nobel Prize winning Dylan.. Ren is right there with him in my opinion.. And lastly both of these artists write thought provoking material that stimulates necessary conversations and shed light on subjects many try to avoid. Ren is something special.. I pray his health improves and we get this young man and his art for a long time to come. Totally agree with your comments and I'm so looking forward for more reactions and I'm thinking the Van Gogh tales is going to be amazing.
The carnival discussion was PERFECT. I've seen so many reactions to these songs. I LOVE stuff that give me new perspective on this amazing artist. I did subscribe to you. I hope you continue on the Ren trail. I will watch EVERY Ren (and circle) reaction that you do.
Thank you Charlie and Nicole, you both bring so much insight and knowledge to understanding the depth of Rens creativity. Love this reaction, welcome to the renegades. 🎶💛🎶💛
Kudos to you two for a superlative breakdown! Glad to see such emotionally connected artist’s appreciate such an emotionally connected artist that is REN! 🙏🏽😎
I'm always amazed at how fans of so many disparate genres are touched by Ren's music and I love seeing what resonates with them. Rappers, metalheads, gospel, opera... they all see something special. Geat video! Can't wait to see you do more Ren videos. Love it!
The power of Ren's story telling is impressive. The emotion he can pull from you in 10 minutes is something that feature films rarely manage in 2-3 hours. You feel so strongly for these characters. The way he speaks to the human experience in a relatable way gets me every time. I've seen hundreds of reactions, and watched his videos even more, and he still manages to get to me every time.
Yes, talk about some foreshadowing. Is he giving us the loaded gun here that's fired in Act 2 (sounds like cocking of a gun to me)? Also, he also plays a couple of melody lines at the very beginning that we'll encounter again on "his father was a bastard" and "the devil comes to dance".
Being able to witness how Ren's music is appreciated, is a joy! It is rare that the complexity of his music and performance in combination with the camera work is captured in such detail...I enjoyed that very much. Thank you both for taking the time to do this! ❤️ Greetings from Germany 👏👏👏👍🤝🙋♀️
Absolutely amazing reaction. I've watched many wonderful reactions to Rens songs, but this was in a league of its own in my opinion. So extremely insightful, I can't comprehend how you grokked all that in just one sitting. I just wanted to say thanks and share something that might resonate with you and that you touched on in the video. I heard that the thing that really triggered Ren to create something out of this news story was a throwaway comment at the end of the article, something like "its such a shame". The trivialization of this whole immense tragedy to "its such a shame" was triggered Ren to create this masterpiece. And by all rights, I think that line tells you something about how we as a society are dealing with these absolute devastating tragedies that occur all around us, and you both already touched upon it in your analysis. I'm so grateful to Ren and you for shining the light on the patterns, complexities and systems at play. Only way to make a difference. Thanks for an amazing video.
This is by far my favorite reaction to this video. Thank you!! You are both beautiful on the inside, which goes well with a hot and healthy outside 🎼🎶😇 I could listen to you two talk for hours.
@@CharlieCalottaReacts that german word you used to identify the crescendo tempo reminded me of a piece another reactor mentioned: ruclips.net/video/Dp3BlFZWJNA/видео.htmlsi=MtULRDcTrqR9Zjqp
The finger tapping at the start of Violet's Tale is more than a talent showcase or a scene setting. What's happening in that hospital room is the emergence of two lives, and the passage of one, captured in the dramatic rapid fire notes of Ren's fingers. He then looks around the room with a dazed expression, maybe like a newborn soul surprised by their emergence into a realm of artificial light and sound.
@@kevinmclaughlin8975 All interpretations welcome and valid. For me, though, a couple clues would suggest otherwise. The fact a surgeon is called in suggests a C-section and anesthetic. Her last conscious moment is appealing to the doctor to let her baby(ies) stay alive before "the curtains closed, the lights went dim". For these reasons I don't think she regains consciousness. Remember, too, that the theme in Screech's Tale is that, "our story it starts, right to the end". In keeping with that, it makes sense that Violet's Tale begins where it ends, with her death on the hospital bed.
@@brucegorst8005 Hey both of those were something I hadn't even paid attention to before.. SO Thank you both for these observations and interpretations. Great stuff.. I always learn something new or a different way to look at things when I come to the comment section on a Ren Reaction. Very cool.. Thanks again.
agree on the surgeon and anesthesia and not regaining consciousness. She probably wasn’t in good enough shape to go through labor. And if you listen very closely it does sound like he says “babies”. Appears to be a slight break in the middle of the s sound. Have a great day
Oh my MFG!!! You two are sooooo damn plugged in and wise and beautiful... I am addicted to REN reactions because watching a person go in raw on a REN song and FEEL it, is like hearing that song again for the 1st time. I loved your pause break and discussion about PATTERNS. I'm all in on you both. Incredible. I'm glad I met you two and I wish you all the best!
I love how musicians, singers, artists who react to Ren pick up on his influences (RHCP just one of many). It is amazing to me, because my untrained ear doesn't hear it. I just know I love it. lol. Not only that but it showcases even more to me Ren's talents, and how detailed he gets with everything he creates.
So officially: Welcome to the RENegades! You are really adding to us! ❤ Sometimes, when you hear someone, and think, it sounds like "someone you heard before", it is just because of the archaic character of the song, letting your soul vibrate with an archaic entity...
Ren is a big Red Hot Chili Peppers fan, and cites John Frusciante as an inspiration, so good catch! I'm really enjoying your reactions. So thoughtful, musically knowledgeable, and conscious of the visceral and psychological effects of music. ❤
I think the seagulls reflect the state of mind of Stevie. Up to this point he's so overcome with rage and intensity that it's like he can't hear the world around him it's all very closed in and focused on his actions, and at the point he realises that Violet isn't faking it and really isn't saying or can't say anything he's snapped back to reality and lifted out of his intensity and the reality of the world around him floods back in with the sounds of the seagulls. It's such a subtle way of showing that transition of Stevie going from righteousness indignation to a "what have I done....." moment
Really enjoyed this one. I think experiencing it, then taking time to reflect and come back, really paid off here. I've listened to this many times, but you made a bunch of great insights that enriched my appreciation. Good work, you two.
Loved this reaction - taking time away to compose your thoughts, and then coming back with some serious new insight that I hadn't picked up on before. Thank you both
Great reaction again Charlie. Welcome to the RENagades. The ending hits so hard every time you hear it, but you get used to it. Loved your breakdown and the music theory. Big Love man
Loving Charlie's insights and appreciation of Rens' artistry and ability to portray the human experience. Rens rawness unpolished delivery he uses to portray the reality of our lives . He is brutally beautiful, a rare treasure 🎉
Wow what you said during the intermission really hit home. So many layers to what you said and so much truth. For me personally, your point is something I’ve recently discovered and am working through. Very well said and I genuinely appreciate your words.
This is amazing, Found your channel from Nicole's channel. Can't wait to see you or both of you do more stuff by Ren. The understanding in music you both have makes it so you can break down and understand Ren's art is ways most others cant. hope to hear both you and Nicole's insight and break down on other music by Ren.
Agree 100% came here from Nicole's Channel too.. loved her Harry Mack reactions and was one of several who were recommending Ren.. So glad she trusted us enough to give him a try.. Was thrilled with her reactions.. BUT these last 2 with Charlie.. WOW.. Top notch even better than I could have ever imagined. Great comment.
Ren and Sam’s use of perspective is simple and yet so powerful. In each video he swaps perspective and at times we the viewer go from passively watching the story to seeing the events unfold from a specific character’s perspective. It’s brilliantly immersive. Great reaction. I hope Ren and Sam get to see it some day ❤
The "Where did he go?" in Screech's Tale also sounds like an infant wailing. In the context of the whole trilogy I think it highlights how Screech, despite all his bluster and bravado, is a really a scared little boy on the inside.
Thank you so much for sharing. This is exactly why I've been watching Ren reactions for the last year and a half. I can't wait to see you explore more of the World of Ren, enjoy.
I appreciate how intentional Ren is in everything he does. Down to setting and cadence to the subtle wording in some aspects of a very in your face story. Violet’s tale - Violence Tale.
Cesar A. Cruz said, "Art should comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable," I think this does just that. the story reminds me of the definition a greek tragedy
One of the best reactions I've seen to this one, I've seen people throw their headphones and walk away, people yell fk you ren, and a few who who get it but think they might be wrong so they say nothing of any consequence, then there's reactors who are completely thrown through a loop like you 2 and that's my favourite. Looking forward to more💙
fantastic review - not just a reaction - thank you for digging in deep to such powerful performances. Really appreciated hearing your takes on the performance aspects as well as the subject matter.
Thank you for such an in depth technical and art conversation, and emotional reaction. It’s super hard to equal REN for your future considerations, but after you get through REN, it’s important to hear the live version of Brother by Matt Corby (on Like A Version), and Lose Yourself by Kasey Chambers who stole it from EMINEM in hair-raising style. As for poor Jenny: it seems like a lot of reactors miss the word clues right at the start that she’s a street walker, and I use that term deliberately instead of sex worker. She’s unprotected by a legal brothel, and inherently in danger on the streets. For those that catch it, the end of Violet’s Tale is a double blow. Not only are Jenny and Screech unknowingly sister and brother, but Street Walker Jenny was only 14 herself. Having walked these streets a thousand times, that would be a bit under 3 years. Optimistically, she started soon after she turned 12, and died at the end of her 14th year. Even if sex work was legal, there’d be no liscenced brothel that would accept her at that age. What hell hole of an adopted or foster home put her on the street at 12? It’s such a shame.
I think "Sick Boi" is a must. Especially since the ongoing ownership battles with it, reacting to it while it's still online is probably a good idea. Other Suggestions: The "Money Game" Trilogy is incredible. Ren's Song "Seven Sins" is a personal favourite of mine. A double feature of "S*icide" and "For Joe" would also be good. As a chunk of For Joe is a live performance of the back half of S*icide. Can't go wrong with his two live performances with Chinchilla too, "How to be Me" and "Chalk Outlines" I'm stoked you're back Charlie, and I'm excited to follow you on this journey.
I've never watched a reaction channel as cool and enjoyable as yours. As a renegade, I'd like to say thank you. I'm now a subscriber who looks forward to more great and informative videos 🎉❤
Of all the reactions I've watched of "The Tales" (more than I care to mention 😬), yours are by far, the closest aligned with the one I had, when I first saw it. Most reactors see Screech as a monster, but like the both of you, I felt instant empathy for the fourteen year old child, that he is. Also, you'd be amazed by how many completely miss the heartbreaking ending, which is insane to me, and leads me to believe their reactions are fake, i.e. pretending to be into Ren's music (because it gets so many views i.m.o.), but can't actually be paying attention to lyrics at all! With that off my chest (we Renegades tend to be a bit obsessed 😍) , thanks for the great reaction, love and respect from England ❤
This was a phenomenal breakdown/discussion of The Tales. I second the recommendation that you do this with the Money Game Trilogy (and honestly anything else you want to review together).
Omg ), "Mainlining Drama" haha. That fits because I swear Rens music is like taking a dopamine drug. 😊😊😊❤ The compassion and empathy you two show is really heartwarming. Good people who understand the gravity of this social commentary, while appreciating the Art. ❤
I love how deep you went into this to discuss all of those intricacies that can easily be missed if you're not paying attention. It's such a treat for us Renegades who have seen so many reactions to see others also get into the nitty gritty of it. Nerd out as much as you want - nerding out right with ya! ❤ you're both fantastic!
This was an excellent reaction. I’ve seen so many but this one stands out due to how much you paid attention to all the details. Can’t wait to see you react to the Money Games ✌️
The Tales trilogy is an absolute masterpiece on so many levels, budget video, one take, open public semi urban area (shouting abusive disturbing language) gurilla filming, the acticing, coordinated filming, performance .......and then it’s all wrapped up into this amazing piece of art. Also there was quite a bit of time between each piece something like 2 years apart ..... Ren also performed a mini drama video which give a bit of back story of Screech - RENs YTUBE channel - Screech’s Instagram story Seagulls are natural sounds in Brighton but may have been added in post, in just like the door closing behind Ren when he enters the alley has been removed from the audio.....Ren meticulously piece by piece audio production.
1:16:38 The sound of the seagulls is him coming out of his rage and reality setting in, like coming back to earth. Great reaction and thanks for your time.
Thank you both for this reaction. I shared this with a good friend of mine after my first hearing and she didn't get the Violet's Tale ending at all because the same violence happened to her 25 years ago. Thankfully, she survived. The father of her child, her son, tried to murder her in her sleep with the baby in the same room. When she watched this video she was so overwhelmed her mind stopped functioning. I did warn her that the final tale included domestic violence but I neglected going into details. This is Ren's greatest creation so far in my view. The Money Game trilogy is almost as good. I look forward with some confidence that he will surpass it.
Oh no she Dissociated out of PTSD trauma. It can be hard judging how to give trigger warnings, because people with triggers have different levels of stuff, different levels of detail they can cope with, and sometimes we traumatized consider then ignore the warning because you want to be seen by having your type of experience explored. I need a TW for incest, often I nope out of conversations, don’t even start documentaries and news articles because I have to not. But I can cope with Violet’s tale because the mention is kept very brief, and comes with the cushion of beautiful music. And I’ve never listened to it directly again, it’s an emotional distancing to watch other people react. I haven’t thought about it, but maybe the reactors’ tears about it all are healing for me??? The physical violence to Violet by Stevie is sustained and made incredibly visceral by REN here in comparison to the multiple rapes by her father.
Ren is a modern day bard painting such vivid imagery with his storytelling that it pulls you in and forces you to keep watching - even when it gets physically uncomfortable during Violet’s Tale. And Ren uses this ability to shed light on far too real issues in the world. Ren is special. And I truly appreciate your appreciation for him ❤
This is the best analysis / reaction on the internet.
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I agree....Charlie nailed his understanding and empathy for the situation.
You can see from Rens work the influence Plan B (references him in Hi Ren) had on his music. Plan B has an album called Ill Manors, which is the soundtrack to a film called Ill Manors (in a similar way to Eminem 8 Mile). The film focuses on the cycle of life repeating itself. Exactly what Charlie references when watching this. (Plan B wrote, directed, produced the film and composed the soundtrack to the film).
I have watched a fair few reactions to this (like most) and very few pick up on this.
Most British people in the UK will know Ill Manors, both the film and the album. US fans out there should put it on their watchlist/playlist if you like Rens stuff. (It can be a hard watch with some very tough scenes). If you watch it, you will see instantly.
What made me realise this is another reactor mentioned that in Jenny's tale the cadence/flow is similar to Renegade by Warren G and Nate Dog. That's a song about thieves going out robbing people with knives. (Shows the depths of Rens production). It is clearly intentional.
So then I tried to work out if the flow of Screeches tale matches any song about rage/panic/ego. (I couldn't work it out), but did lead me to Ill Manors and does mirror parts of the film. Even the filming of stopping to make the phone call in the middle of the song, you'll hear similar things on the Ill Manors album.
I wouldn't be surprised if Violets tale has a cadence/flow matching a song somewhere. But again can't work it out.
Everything's intentional when it comes to Ren. He's a genius.
Amazing reaction and analysis. Like many other Ren fans, I've actually, literally watched hundreds of reactions to Ren's music over the past 2 years. Charlie's background and experience, as well as his empathy make this one of the most informative and entertaining reactions I've seen. If anyone mentions the issues with the audio, yes I could hear that, but it didn't detract from the experience. Thanks for this video, and for your support for Ren. I hope you continue to analyze Ren's videos as long as you enjoy doing it. And thanks for trusting Ren fans enough to make a longer video. No need to be concerned that you'll bore us, that won't happen.
Heyyy thank you for this wonderful comment... yeah the audio was the best I could manage with what happened... won't be a thing going forward, we learn :) but all things considered, THANK you!
Absolutely well said❤
@CharlieCalottaReacts given the setting of the music video, the "imperfections and flaws" were almost ironically perfect. The authenticity that is communicated is what draws us in. The truth that is presented becomes more profound than just the words and images. The sum becomes exponentially more than the parts. Thank you for sharing this step of your journey with us.
@@CharlieCalottaReacts This video is brilliantly produced. Just brilliantly. You've echoed the mastery of Ren in the formatting and editing. Bravo sir. Ren is the kind of genius that enables genius.
Agree with this!!
Everyone gives flowers to Ren for an incredible performance, and yes, rightfully so. But can we just talk about how Sam is walking backwards up stairs while keeping Ren in frame and not falling on his ass? Exceptional.
homie you might have a movement disability if you think walking up stairs backwards is exceptional
I thought of that. 2 people must carry/guide him. You can't film, zoom and look behind.
"It's Like Mainlining Drama"
That has to be the greatest quote about this track :)
I mean…
💯 I laughed out loud-tha best
It really is. You welcomingly use your vocabulary to clearly and creatively describe these great musical moments for listeners who are music lovers and not necessarily musicians ourselves. Thank you!
He also plays piano and is awesome
I don't often undertake watching a 90 minute reaction video, but I clicked on this one the second I saw it. I'm only one minute in, and I don't care how long it is, I'm in 100%.
Yoooo thanks Jason
This is exactly what I thought when I just realized how long this will be. I'm 9 mins in, and I'll watch it all for sure. I'm loving the vocalization breakdowns here. Two professionals using their experience to educate. Love it.
Almost an hour in, and I'm here for the journey as well.
Because Jenny and screech is just too damn good that's why I'm here too didn't even know it was an hour and a half til I saw your comment
I never even looked at the length. I love that you both have such a visceral response and the ability to describe what's affecting you.
This really was a masterpiece of nerdy nerds talking about music and performance: AND I LOVED IT ALL! 👏🏻❤️😅
This hit my RUclips recommendation, and I thought, "Oh hell no, I don't have an hour and a half!" And I didn't watch. Then I saw a Renegade posted it in the Ren's Rabbit Hole Facebook group and recommended it, in its entirety, but then said a listener could exit around the 45 minute mark and I thought, "Well, maybe. I can always fast forward." (I've seen sooo many reactions, and I dislike it when people pause every 3 seconds and cheat themselves of a chance to even understand what's happening.) So today is a lazy Sunday. You popped up again, and I thought, "Ok, I'll watch part of it." And here I am at the end, having fast-forwarded through absolutely nothing. Brilliantly done! Even after all the reactions I've seen and all the Renegade discussions of these masterpieces, you still brought new thoughts and nuances I hadn't heard before. And my mad respect for the boi continues to grow. New sub. And I'm headed back to put your, "Hi Ren," reaction in my Watch Later list! ❤
That genius behind the camera is Samuel Perry-Falvey. I really appreciate the time and thought you put into this. It's one of the best analyses of this video I've ever seen.
Totally agree they added to what was already a masterpiece with great insight and recognition of how the whole piece is just great art work top to bottom. If you haven't seen Maria's reaction on her channel that is another really good one too.. worth checking out.
Welcome to the "family" Charlie... This Ren train now has a new favourite stop 🤘😎
Again, you guys are great together. Best Ren Reaction duo I've seen so far, and I've seen 1000's of Ren reactions... huge Ren reactions junkie (and critic 🤭).
I’m grateful for you - we’re just doing our thing, glad you’re here
Facts 👍🫶🏻🫶🏻
@@CharlieCalottaReactsyour insights bring a proper new dimension to these tracks, as that's where your skillset lies. There are so many reactions to this but having 2 people who are hearing (and seeing) new angles is unusual, so likely to get lots of shares, despite the length
Amazing reaction. Worth every minute. Not everyone has the gift of emotionally connecting with music, but for those that do, Ren is a must-listen.
Listening to your breakdown was like dining in a 5 star restaurant. Deliciously taking in with each stop interpretation. Thank you both for this serious treatment of a genius artist, Ren.
Ren is like a 3 Michelin artist to take in, glad to have you here with us
So true.. we know the foods going to be great.. but then the presentation and attention to detail of the staff creates that atmosphere that enriches the experience. Nicole and Charlie are like master chefs coming out to our table to explain the details and thoughts that went into creating the meal. Combinations of herbs and spices and portions delicately put together for our enjoyment. Love this Comment.. agree 100 percent.. and thank you to Nicole and Charlie for everything they bring to the table in these reactions.
Watching Nicole get herself mentally prepared for Violet. 💜
Right?! I bawled with her when she watched it for the first time because I REMEMBER THE FIRST TIME I SAW IT.
This. You can always tell when someone has already seen it because the tears come in anticipation of what’s to come rather than in reaction
Goddam, the only thing better than an expert loving and geeking out about something I love, and giving me expert insight into through the lens of their expertise - is *two* experts brainstorming!
Thanks Charlie - I've been a RENegade for....A While now, watched untold numbers of reactions to him, and you two together have given me an even *deeper* appreciation for the artistry here. Thanks so much for being so generous sharing yourself (yourselves!) with all us Internet Randos out here.
You rock, thank YOU for saying this
Rendos
The bit near the end, talking of screech and how art is meant to yield empathy and teach empathy for All people.
I think that’s a big part of the Ren effect and certainly demonstrated by the Renagades.
Switching hearts open and dialing the personal judgement down.
Saving the judgement for the concepts like corruption and greed
So, I’ve seen a billion reactions to this trilogy. You guys did fucking incredible. Loved it.
100% I cried just watching them both 😢😢🫡🫡❤️❤️
You are quickly becoming one of my favorite reactors! Your insights are fantastic and I really enjoy watching you experiencing a Ren song for the first time! Cant wait to see what you think of the Money Game trilogy...
Looking forward to this! Thanks so much
This may sound weird. But I love you both. How deeply you feel music. Knowing exactly how music is able to affect one's mood, thought process, and how the world is viewed. Thank you for this reaction. Thank you.
Music is the great unifier (and also comedy, but not as much as music)
I totally agree with you. I honestly think that their combination of knowledge, experiences from their professional backgrounds and just the fact that they are willing to put themselves out here and just be their authentic selves makes them great reactors. They may not have known it as they entered into their professions that they were building damn near perfect reactors. To steal a line from Harry Mack on Omegle bars 85 which if Nicole sees this put it on your wheel.. lol.. But as Harry told LB.. YOU ARE RIGHT WERE YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE. I'm new to seeing Charlie but immediately subscribed when I saw their reaction to Hi Ren.. and this one was really something. I ALSO JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU BOTH FOR THIS REACTION.
I think it would be weird not to love these two! They’re beautiful people.
@@CharlieCalottaReacts have you seen or reacted to Tim Minchin? It's masterful singing comedy unifying continents!
He actually wrote Violet's Tale years after because he felt like it was missing something. Love the change in acoustics when he goes down the hall. You should watch Money Game 1,2 and 3. That's not a personal tale as much as a lesson and speaking out against corruption. He translates his passions so eloquently.
Ren was exposed to storytelling with music when he attended folk music festivals with his parents as a child. He's a master of the medium. Fun side note. The hospital room is the bike storage room in a friend's apartment building. They moved everything behind the curtain. Ren wasn't paying attention when he ordered the bed online. They discovered it was a child's bed and Ren is over 6 ft tall. One of his buddies made a riser for it. You and Nicole are fabulous together! I recommend that you two react to Chalk outlines (live) and How to Be Me (live)
Chalk outlines live is a must
I have a recommendation... you guys should do a Blind Reaction, together, for Money Game 1,2 & 3 all in one video... it would be epic!!!! 🎉
oh yes ...
YES YES YES
100% ... The money game trilogy is amazing, especially the final part!
*IMPORTANT NOTE:* It should be mentioned that the second part has two versions! Accidentally getting the _'wrong one'_ has tripped up a few reaction channels already. So if you see Ren walking down a beach, STOP immediately! Get the other one... the one you want is a 'lyric video' made up of clips - NOT a live action : )
Yep yep yep
I would watch it even if it was hours long. I really want this to happen
You taking time after the first listens, and coming back with real insights; it's one of the first times that I've seen someone do this on a way that just felt real. You needed that time; it wasn't for effect, it was to process what you just went through in a productive way, and you hit me with some real inspiration after you did
'It's like mainlining drama' Is the headline quote.
I mean... IT IS haha, coming from two people who do drama for a living
Right?!
I saw another reactor say the she felt like she just watched a true crime drama.
I've heard Ren characterize his style as Bard-core, and this work absolutely epitomizes that feeling. I really loved your analysis. I watch a lot of reactors to Ren, I absolutely love your analysis.
The tragedy is deepened somehow by the ages. And what’s unsaid. Jenny and Screech were *both* 14. Both children of the streets. Jenny in high heels walking streets she’d walked a thousand times or more, wanting to escape. Screech threatening to slice the rosy off her cheeks. The heavy makeup. A 14yo girl out late, unprotected, too dolled up, certainly implies the oldest profession.
Then Violet, escaping to a subsidised housing situation at 16. They don’t give you those places just because you leave home. She was pregnant, likely by her father, and then got a job and a flat to escape, meeting Stevie afterwards. Stevie calls her a liar and a slut, and has so much anger. Maybe because she was so very pregnant and they’d not known each other long enough for that. She was a quiet girl, hiding her pain. Did Stevie know about her dad? I’m not excusing him, but I love that Ren includes enough to allow him some humanity, too, if you look hard enough. He wasn’t likely much older than Violet’s 16 or 17 by the time he killed her.
Then the generational cycles. All the women in this tale cope by freezing, fleeing or fawning. Jenny freezes. Violet flees. Violet’s mother dissociates, drinks and caters to her husband. All silent. The men fight and predate, with immature views of “manliness”. Violet’s father, who is maybe Jenny and Screech’s father too, beats and sexually assaults her, likely her mother too. Stevie is comfortable for Violet as they repeat the patterns she’s familiar with, and beats and ultimately kills her. Screech, too, is playing at being “a man”, unable to handle the perceived challenge of disrespect by Jenny’s noncompliance, his girlfriend’s rejection, the policeman’s assumed authority, and his immature machismo gets him killed.
All human. No monsters. That’s the scariest thing of all. The things we as human beings are capable of. It demands empathy and attention from us as a society to all of the people involved in every day dramatic struggles. It’s all too easy to do as the narrator almost mockingly does and shrug out an, “oh, it’s such a shame,” and move on, and if everyone does, nothing will ever change.
So well said. Thank you for this summation.
Was hoping someone to laid it all out, as a lot of people miss the extra stuff about violet's parents. This was perfect
Just as a “little” note addendum to your fantastic breakdown to some of my observations- it was the news and the public’s reaction “it’s such a shame” to the news of the death of some woman who was stabbed by some guy, that affected REN so much that he wrote this anthology of a song. There are so MANY little “accidents” that he takes advantage of, like stepping into the spooky green light when Violet dies. The way the narrator voice begins narrating with a sigh exhalation when he narrates the death of each player, like it is the final breath of each, just as much as it is the narrator sighing about the tragedy. Even the graffiti on the walls seem to signify, in Jenny there are dark images and sad images of women on the walls, with screech the walls have images of young punks more punk like graffiti. And all somehow so desolate, until I begin to feel like the graffiti on the walls are ghosts themselves, people’s stories written on the walls, crammed on top of each other into a cacophony of different stories of people long gone.
Loved watching this with you two so much! My favorite Ren reactions are always with experts in their field, whether that’s cinematographers, musicians, vocalists, seasoned rappers, producers, or theatre folks because you bring such a high level of appreciation, insight, and analysis.
This was by far my favorite breakdown of The Tales, and I’ve seen dozens. You hit so many different angles and illuminated things I’ve never heard spoken of before, namely the composition and structure from a theatrical and classical point of view.
As much as I love the cerebral elements, I also love how you both brought so much humanity to the experience, even allowing space to process and come back. So refreshing to see you give the piece and yourselves that space to breathe.
As a side gig, my husband and I are theater critics and cover Broadway touring shows, Opera, ballet, and shows for two local professional performing arts companies in Nashville. I haven’t been this captivated by a singular artist, ever! It’s really fun to experience his art afresh with intuitive artists such as yourself.
I look forward to continuing this journey with you!
Hey this is so cool! I lived in Nashville for 4 years (was a student at Vandy where I got my undergrad) and I was just there for a cousin's wedding. Nashville Opera is an awesome place!
Small world! Yes, Nashville Opera is really special. Just covered their innovative and stunning production of Carmen. Also, anchor down 😉!
Looking forward to the next reaction. Love the podcast and/or livestream idea too.
'mainlining drama' is brilliant - love these ren reviews - very unique compared to the hundreds of others
thank you both
Thanks for saying that. Means a lot to us
Your reactions to this piece of art just made me realize something. I have always been upset that Ren is not super crazy famous! But seeing your reactions made me think that Ren is probably more pleased with the reactions his art has on humanity than the foundations of the music industry!
He doesn’t want fame or any label having the last say on his art and also compromising EVERYTHING 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏🇬🇧🇺🇸🇬🇧🇺🇸
@randyshuker8315 - You don't say!
I feel like a horrible renegade fan when I find myself hoping that he doesn’t get so crazy famous that he stops doing what he does with so little money but mad loads of talent and art. Sure CGI and a symphony and a hundred actors could enlarge and embellish this story, but it couldn’t be made better with money, it is so haunting, “bare” lonely and “accidental”…
OOOH this is going to be good. Nicole is already crying. May have to catch the replay. Charlie, you are in for it.
yeah... this was huge
I’d not noticed the AC/DC Thunderstruck similarity until you mentioned it… now I can’t unhear it! Spectacular reaction guys. You’ve done Ren and Sam proud by putting as much of your heart and soul into this reaction as they do their art. ❤️🤘
The creepy eyelid scene has such a Clockwork Orange feel.
Ultra-violence
I shudder every time.
A little subtle and genious inscinuation in Screeche's tale. I didn't come up with this, I read it in a comment on another video so I won't take credit but it's a very clever theory.
-Screech knocks on Patricks door but Patrick is not at home.
-Ren as the narrator says:
"No refuge for our villain, for the bitter hands of faith
Have something far more sinister in mind, that does await" (impecable example of foreshadowing)
-He then calls his girlfriend in an attemt to find refuge elsewhere but she says she is "busy"
The theory is that Patrick was not home and his girlfriend was "busy" because his girlfrend was cheating on him with his friend Patrick.
Also Screech inherited his father's violence and Jenny inherited her mother's silence!
Amazing reaction and analysis Charlie and Nicole.
Much love from a Greek Renegade!
Ren has confirmed that Patrick was indeed cheating with Screech's girlfriend.
Also that Jenny was a sex worker, walking the streets in high heels with rosie on her cheeks
@@InconSteveHable Wow. I didn't know that. Thank you!
They did this prequel video as a promotion for the Tales, which hints at some of this and also gives more context and depth to it than just she was cheating on him (along with plenty other prequel insight) 🙂👍 ruclips.net/video/BICvZAS1FR0/видео.html
@@stuartfraser8060 Wauh, that instagram story was new for me, thank you! And Ren's story about the story is incredible, too. Well, it's Ren!
Throwing in the Knick Knack Paddywack has a great double meaning as well. A nursery rhyme for a childhood she never got to experience.
That was the realest reaction to Violet’s Tale I’ve ever seen. Thank you for that.
Yo thank you for being here. I appreciate your comment. Means a lot
These were the best breakdowns I’ve seen of these videos yet and I’ve seen probably a hundred! Amazing job and I sure hope there will be lots more Ren reactions to come!!!
Aside from some audio problems/lagging I thoroughly enjoyed the reaction. I loved that you took time to step aside and process what you'd just seen. The in the moment reactions were fantastic, but sometimes we need to step back and process. Keep it up.
Thanks so much
I have watched 100's of reactions of Jenny and Screech and I've never myself noticed, nor had anyone point out, the musical foreshadowing at the start of Violet's Tale. Genius.
Looking forward to this drop❤
I think you broke Charlie, gets me every time watching reactors doing this one, much love ❤
I was shocked when Ren said Screech was based on an exaggerated version of himself at 14!
Also, there are small instagram stories that Ren made, that go before and I believe in between the tales. (Been a while since I've seen them) one of the things they cover is that Patrick is with Screech's girlfriend when he's knocking on his door, and it's why his girl is busy when he calls her. I need to rewatch them, I can't remember if there's anything else.
One thing I noticed that isn't talked about much, towards the end when Ren gets back to Violet at the hospital while she's bleeding out, Ren is bathed in a deep red light. But when he sings "Violet's world turned to black..." the light changes to a blue- green. A hue normally associated with death.
Wonderful reaction and discussion you guys!! I'd love for you two to react to Ren's "Fred Again Mashup" -I highly recommend listening to a little bit of Fred Again before you do the reaction, so you can feel the full weight of Ren's astonishing creativity! Ren's version is so beautiful, it really shows off Ren's voice and guitar skills. They filmed this one live in Ren's Calgary, Canada apartment, while he was being treated for his illness. Love you guys!!
Your reactions are so in tune with the experience so many get from seeing so much of REN’s work. His art touches people in a way very few can, great to see the visceral reaction in you guys I experienced.
Wow, thank you
@@CharlieCalottaReacts AND you are really good at articulating your authentic feelings. Not actually that common.
Great reaction from both of you. Love the way you dissect it, so different from other reactors. Ren is such an amazing artist and story teller. I still cry to Violets tale after watching it a number of times. Such an amazing tale. Welcome to the world of Ren ❤
Thank you so much!
Commenting before the premiere and I've no idea how you would both feel about this but having Nicole guide you through the insane repertoire and catalog of Ren with joint reactions is a really great watch and I'd love this to be a "thing" going forward.
I'm sure I'll be back later to comment some more once the premiere airs.
The minute I was done with your collab of Hi Ren, I went to your channel to see if you had done Jenny and Screech. Sooooo glad this popped up today.
You two are are great together! I can't believe I watched a hour and half reaction....I was riveted!! With your descriptions and musical expertise awesome watch!!
Absolutely fantastic reaction guys!❤ I love a professional view bc you can really appreciate the incredible intricacies of this piece.
The seagulls in Violet's tale were there already but i reckon Ren allowed them to be heard in the mix to add to the 'reality' hitting Stevie of the situation. All three tales were filmed in Ren's seaside town of Brighton, so seagulls are everywhere. Ren has said in an interview that he mixes and edits the sound himself after recording his live stuff, so it makes sense he would remove external sounds that interfere with the storytelling but allows others through he does want.
Did you know that Sir Andrew Lloyd-Webber said in social media that he thought Ren was the best storyteller of a generation (or something along those lines)?
Ren wants to give us Patrick's tale but also a new set of tales based on Van Gogh. Unfortunately, Ren's health has taken a terrible turn for the worse this week and he's had to put everything on hold for now. I'm still excited though. Happy to wait for future masterpieces ❤
I heard he’s back at home now though. All of this is super amazing. Not surprised about what Lloyd-Webber had to say
@@CharlieCalottaReacts he's home from the hospital for the accident he had but he will have to go back to Canada for treatment as it turns out the last treatment didn't work.
Patrick’s tale (and the tale of Screech’s girlfriend) are somewhat told in a series of Instagram stories which are collected here on RUclips. He made them leading up to the release of Screech’s tale. If you’re a Ren completist you have to watch them…I’ll dig up the link.
Nobody in the world is doing what Ren does..
In my early teens I found Bob Dylan and his amazing writing.. I feel that I have now found the modern day Dylan.. in the sense that his work can't be put into one Genre of music, plus his story telling as you said is right there with the Nobel Prize winning Dylan.. Ren is right there with him in my opinion.. And lastly both of these artists write thought provoking material that stimulates necessary conversations and shed light on subjects many try to avoid. Ren is something special.. I pray his health improves and we get this young man and his art for a long time to come. Totally agree with your comments and I'm so looking forward for more reactions and I'm thinking the Van Gogh tales is going to be amazing.
The carnival discussion was PERFECT. I've seen so many reactions to these songs. I LOVE stuff that give me new perspective on this amazing artist. I did subscribe to you. I hope you continue on the Ren trail. I will watch EVERY Ren (and circle) reaction that you do.
Thank you Charlie and Nicole, you both bring so much insight and knowledge to understanding the depth of Rens creativity. Love this reaction, welcome to the renegades. 🎶💛🎶💛
Kudos to you two for a superlative breakdown! Glad to see such emotionally connected artist’s appreciate such an emotionally connected artist that is REN! 🙏🏽😎
I'm always amazed at how fans of so many disparate genres are touched by Ren's music and I love seeing what resonates with them. Rappers, metalheads, gospel, opera... they all see something special. Geat video! Can't wait to see you do more Ren videos. Love it!
Couldn't agree more!
Wow! I was looking forward to you doing this but I wasn’t expecting THIS! Amazing.
Dang, I'll be at work for this, so I'll have to watch it after the fact. This is going to blow Charlie's mind, guaranteed!
The power of Ren's story telling is impressive. The emotion he can pull from you in 10 minutes is something that feature films rarely manage in 2-3 hours. You feel so strongly for these characters. The way he speaks to the human experience in a relatable way gets me every time. I've seen hundreds of reactions, and watched his videos even more, and he still manages to get to me every time.
I have watched this video countless times and tear up every damn time. What a tragedy and so Shakespearian.
Even the double bang at the start where he leans back on the gates is perfectly timed just before the guitar 👌
Yes, talk about some foreshadowing. Is he giving us the loaded gun here that's fired in Act 2 (sounds like cocking of a gun to me)?
Also, he also plays a couple of melody lines at the very beginning that we'll encounter again on "his father was a bastard" and "the devil comes to dance".
Being able to witness how Ren's music is
appreciated, is a joy!
It is rare that the complexity of his music and performance in combination with the camera work is captured in such detail...I enjoyed that very much.
Thank you both for taking the time to do this!
❤️ Greetings from Germany 👏👏👏👍🤝🙋♀️
Absolutely amazing reaction. I've watched many wonderful reactions to Rens songs, but this was in a league of its own in my opinion. So extremely insightful, I can't comprehend how you grokked all that in just one sitting. I just wanted to say thanks and share something that might resonate with you and that you touched on in the video. I heard that the thing that really triggered Ren to create something out of this news story was a throwaway comment at the end of the article, something like "its such a shame". The trivialization of this whole immense tragedy to "its such a shame" was triggered Ren to create this masterpiece. And by all rights, I think that line tells you something about how we as a society are dealing with these absolute devastating tragedies that occur all around us, and you both already touched upon it in your analysis. I'm so grateful to Ren and you for shining the light on the patterns, complexities and systems at play. Only way to make a difference. Thanks for an amazing video.
This is by far my favorite reaction to this video. Thank you!! You are both beautiful on the inside, which goes well with a hot and healthy outside 🎼🎶😇
I could listen to you two talk for hours.
Maybe you’re the sign to kick up a whole podcast 👀
@@CharlieCalottaReacts that german word you used to identify the crescendo tempo reminded me of a piece another reactor mentioned: ruclips.net/video/Dp3BlFZWJNA/видео.htmlsi=MtULRDcTrqR9Zjqp
The finger tapping at the start of Violet's Tale is more than a talent showcase or a scene setting. What's happening in that hospital room is the emergence of two lives, and the passage of one, captured in the dramatic rapid fire notes of Ren's fingers. He then looks around the room with a dazed expression, maybe like a newborn soul surprised by their emergence into a realm of artificial light and sound.
I always interpreted his looking around as Violet has just regained consciousness and is looking around wondering where she is and how she got there.
@@kevinmclaughlin8975 All interpretations welcome and valid. For me, though, a couple clues would suggest otherwise. The fact a surgeon is called in suggests a C-section and anesthetic. Her last conscious moment is appealing to the doctor to let her baby(ies) stay alive before "the curtains closed, the lights went dim". For these reasons I don't think she regains consciousness. Remember, too, that the theme in Screech's Tale is that, "our story it starts, right to the end". In keeping with that, it makes sense that Violet's Tale begins where it ends, with her death on the hospital bed.
@@brucegorst8005 Hey both of those were something I hadn't even paid attention to before.. SO Thank you both for these observations and interpretations. Great stuff.. I always learn something new or a different way to look at things when I come to the comment section on a Ren Reaction. Very cool.. Thanks again.
agree on the surgeon and anesthesia and not regaining consciousness. She probably wasn’t in good enough shape to go through labor. And if you listen very closely it does sound like he says “babies”. Appears to be a slight break in the middle of the s sound.
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Oh my MFG!!! You two are sooooo damn plugged in and wise and beautiful... I am addicted to REN reactions because watching a person go in raw on a REN song and FEEL it, is like hearing that song again for the 1st time. I loved your pause break and discussion about PATTERNS. I'm all in on you both. Incredible. I'm glad I met you two and I wish you all the best!
I love how musicians, singers, artists who react to Ren pick up on his influences (RHCP just one of many). It is amazing to me, because my untrained ear doesn't hear it. I just know I love it. lol. Not only that but it showcases even more to me Ren's talents, and how detailed he gets with everything he creates.
So officially: Welcome to the RENegades! You are really adding to us! ❤ Sometimes, when you hear someone, and think, it sounds like "someone you heard before", it is just because of the archaic character of the song, letting your soul vibrate with an archaic entity...
This is one of the best reactions ever
Ren is a big Red Hot Chili Peppers fan, and cites John Frusciante as an inspiration, so good catch!
I'm really enjoying your reactions. So thoughtful, musically knowledgeable, and conscious of the visceral and psychological effects of music. ❤
"But I'm sure her mother knew." The mom was silent, so Violet grew up being silent. And Jenny was silent when confronted by Screech.
The Freeze part of Fight, Flight, Freeze or Fawn
I think the seagulls reflect the state of mind of Stevie. Up to this point he's so overcome with rage and intensity that it's like he can't hear the world around him it's all very closed in and focused on his actions, and at the point he realises that Violet isn't faking it and really isn't saying or can't say anything he's snapped back to reality and lifted out of his intensity and the reality of the world around him floods back in with the sounds of the seagulls. It's such a subtle way of showing that transition of Stevie going from righteousness indignation to a "what have I done....." moment
Really enjoyed this one. I think experiencing it, then taking time to reflect and come back, really paid off here. I've listened to this many times, but you made a bunch of great insights that enriched my appreciation. Good work, you two.
Loved this reaction - taking time away to compose your thoughts, and then coming back with some serious new insight that I hadn't picked up on before. Thank you both
Great reaction again Charlie. Welcome to the RENagades. The ending hits so hard every time you hear it, but you get used to it.
Loved your breakdown and the music theory.
Big Love man
Loving Charlie's insights and appreciation of Rens' artistry and ability to portray the human experience. Rens rawness unpolished delivery he uses to portray the reality of our lives . He is brutally beautiful, a rare treasure 🎉
Wow what you said during the intermission really hit home. So many layers to what you said and so much truth. For me personally, your point is something I’ve recently discovered and am working through. Very well said and I genuinely appreciate your words.
This is amazing, Found your channel from Nicole's channel. Can't wait to see you or both of you do more stuff by Ren. The understanding in music you both have makes it so you can break down and understand Ren's art is ways most others cant. hope to hear both you and Nicole's insight and break down on other music by Ren.
Agree 100% came here from Nicole's Channel too.. loved her Harry Mack reactions and was one of several who were recommending Ren.. So glad she trusted us enough to give him a try.. Was thrilled with her reactions.. BUT these last 2 with Charlie.. WOW.. Top notch even better than I could have ever imagined. Great comment.
Ren and Sam’s use of perspective is simple and yet so powerful. In each video he swaps perspective and at times we the viewer go from passively watching the story to seeing the events unfold from a specific character’s perspective. It’s brilliantly immersive. Great reaction. I hope Ren and Sam get to see it some day ❤
The "Where did he go?" in Screech's Tale also sounds like an infant wailing. In the context of the whole trilogy I think it highlights how Screech, despite all his bluster and bravado, is a really a scared little boy on the inside.
Thank you so much for sharing. This is exactly why I've been watching Ren reactions for the last year and a half. I can't wait to see you explore more of the World of Ren, enjoy.
You guys are amazing!! Shared in the Ren fan groups!!! ❤❤❤
I appreciate how intentional Ren is in everything he does. Down to setting and cadence to the subtle wording in some aspects of a very in your face story. Violet’s tale - Violence Tale.
Cesar A. Cruz said, "Art should comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable," I think this does just that. the story reminds me of the definition a greek tragedy
I love that quote, feels true to me.
Thanks for the lesson
You guys are awesome. These tales get me pretty much every time yet can’t stop watching reactions to them. Loved your reaction:)
Fantastic reaction, you two really compliment each other, with some great insight. Thank you ❤
One of the best reactions I've seen to this one, I've seen people throw their headphones and walk away, people yell fk you ren, and a few who who get it but think they might be wrong so they say nothing of any consequence, then there's reactors who are completely thrown through a loop like you 2 and that's my favourite. Looking forward to more💙
Ive watched dozens of reactions to this work and yours is one of the best. Please do more of these together. The gestalt works.
Loved your reaction great chemistry to a generation artist! Well done!!
fantastic review - not just a reaction - thank you for digging in deep to such powerful performances. Really appreciated hearing your takes on the performance aspects as well as the subject matter.
Our pleasure!
Thank you for such an in depth technical and art conversation, and emotional reaction. It’s super hard to equal REN for your future considerations, but after you get through REN, it’s important to hear the live version of Brother by Matt Corby (on Like A Version), and Lose Yourself by Kasey Chambers who stole it from EMINEM in hair-raising style. As for poor Jenny: it seems like a lot of reactors miss the word clues right at the start that she’s a street walker, and I use that term deliberately instead of sex worker. She’s unprotected by a legal brothel, and inherently in danger on the streets.
For those that catch it, the end of Violet’s Tale is a double blow. Not only are Jenny and Screech unknowingly sister and brother, but Street Walker Jenny was only 14 herself. Having walked these streets a thousand times, that would be a bit under 3 years. Optimistically, she started soon after she turned 12, and died at the end of her 14th year. Even if sex work was legal, there’d be no liscenced brothel that would accept her at that age. What hell hole of an adopted or foster home put her on the street at 12? It’s such a shame.
this reaction was everything.. can't wait for you to meet chinchilla 😊
I think "Sick Boi" is a must. Especially since the ongoing ownership battles with it, reacting to it while it's still online is probably a good idea.
Other Suggestions: The "Money Game" Trilogy is incredible. Ren's Song "Seven Sins" is a personal favourite of mine. A double feature of "S*icide" and "For Joe" would also be good. As a chunk of For Joe is a live performance of the back half of S*icide. Can't go wrong with his two live performances with Chinchilla too, "How to be Me" and "Chalk Outlines"
I'm stoked you're back Charlie, and I'm excited to follow you on this journey.
I've never watched a reaction channel as cool and enjoyable as yours. As a renegade, I'd like to say thank you. I'm now a subscriber who looks forward to more great and informative videos 🎉❤
Of all the reactions I've watched of "The Tales" (more than I care to mention 😬), yours are by far, the closest aligned with the one I had, when I first saw it. Most reactors see Screech as a monster, but like the both of you, I felt instant empathy for the fourteen year old child, that he is. Also, you'd be amazed by how many completely miss the heartbreaking ending, which is insane to me, and leads me to believe their reactions are fake, i.e. pretending to be into Ren's music (because it gets so many views i.m.o.), but can't actually be paying attention to lyrics at all! With that off my chest (we Renegades tend to be a bit obsessed 😍) , thanks for the great reaction, love and respect from England ❤
This was a phenomenal breakdown/discussion of The Tales. I second the recommendation that you do this with the Money Game Trilogy (and honestly anything else you want to review together).
Omg ), "Mainlining Drama" haha.
That fits because I swear Rens music is like taking a dopamine drug. 😊😊😊❤
The compassion and empathy you two show is really heartwarming. Good people who understand the gravity of this social commentary, while appreciating the Art. ❤
Might change the vid title
thanks for giving this masterpiece the time deserves... ren has changed my life - enjoy the journey
Glad you enjoy it!
Holy shit! The path Ren walks is a full reversal of Violets path!! You are the first I have heard that sees this!
Amazing in depth reaction and breakdown of this powerful piece of art
I love how deep you went into this to discuss all of those intricacies that can easily be missed if you're not paying attention. It's such a treat for us Renegades who have seen so many reactions to see others also get into the nitty gritty of it. Nerd out as much as you want - nerding out right with ya! ❤ you're both fantastic!
This was an excellent reaction. I’ve seen so many but this one stands out due to how much you paid attention to all the details. Can’t wait to see you react to the Money Games ✌️
Hi Ren and now this one, you are spoiling us! I am really enjoying watching Nicole watch you react to Ren.
The Tales trilogy is an absolute masterpiece on so many levels, budget video, one take, open public semi urban area (shouting abusive disturbing language) gurilla filming, the acticing, coordinated filming, performance .......and then it’s all wrapped up into this amazing piece of art. Also there was quite a bit of time between each piece something like 2 years apart ..... Ren also performed a mini drama video which give a bit of back story of Screech - RENs YTUBE channel - Screech’s Instagram story
Seagulls are natural sounds in Brighton but may have been added in post, in just like the door closing behind Ren when he enters the alley has been removed from the audio.....Ren meticulously piece by piece audio production.
so so amazing reaction!!!!!!! so many thanks!!!!!
1:16:38 The sound of the seagulls is him coming out of his rage and reality setting in, like coming back to earth. Great reaction and thanks for your time.
Thank you both for this reaction. I shared this with a good friend of mine after my first hearing and she didn't get the Violet's Tale ending at all because the same violence happened to her 25 years ago. Thankfully, she survived. The father of her child, her son, tried to murder her in her sleep with the baby in the same room. When she watched this video she was so overwhelmed her mind stopped functioning. I did warn her that the final tale included domestic violence but I neglected going into details.
This is Ren's greatest creation so far in my view. The Money Game trilogy is almost as good. I look forward with some confidence that he will surpass it.
Oh no she Dissociated out of PTSD trauma. It can be hard judging how to give trigger warnings, because people with triggers have different levels of stuff, different levels of detail they can cope with, and sometimes we traumatized consider then ignore the warning because you want to be seen by having your type of experience explored. I need a TW for incest, often I nope out of conversations, don’t even start documentaries and news articles because I have to not. But I can cope with Violet’s tale because the mention is kept very brief, and comes with the cushion of beautiful music. And I’ve never listened to it directly again, it’s an emotional distancing to watch other people react.
I haven’t thought about it, but maybe the reactors’ tears about it all are healing for me???
The physical violence to Violet by Stevie is sustained and made incredibly visceral by REN here in comparison to the multiple rapes by her father.
@@ariadnepyanfar1048 Thank you.
Ren is a modern day bard painting such vivid imagery with his storytelling that it pulls you in and forces you to keep watching - even when it gets physically uncomfortable during Violet’s Tale. And Ren uses this ability to shed light on far too real issues in the world. Ren is special. And I truly appreciate your appreciation for him ❤