Ren is so special,I was a victim of domestic violence and managed to escape .The line that always brings me to tears is "Do you think I want to do this"my abuser used to say that.Outstanding creative artist Ren showing people the other side of life as well as the happy side.He is a master of words and music😮
Yup! Of all the hard hitting lines, and the way he slaps his chest, that’s the one that punches the hardest. Big loves to us survivors, it was not our fault ❤
I'm with you. "Do you think I want to do this Violet?" Always gets me. That combined with the way he slaps his chest as he says it, makes me wince and kinda jolt. It's painful to hear.😢 Ren does this really well.
That gets me too... 😢 But I left, after the "first hit", after two years of psychological Abuse. (But I was pregnant, so my son actually saved me, before he was born.❤) To protect my baby, made it "easier" for me...I think.
@@andrewphillips3973ikr? I've only heard one other person pick that up & it was a guest of the reactor & they kinda argued about it. I was telling my screen "c'mon! Are you stupid are you dumb for fi fo fum!" Lol this is what Ren has done to me I argue out loud with reactors who cannot hear me & aren't live as if they should be able to get it telepathically. Hmm. I bet REN would! Lol
4:53 WOW! Never seen a reactor make that connection with Jenny first time through!!! I tip my hat to you sir! Sure many come to that conclusion after the fact but never the first go! Impressive ear my friend!
I have watched a number of "Reactions" to this piece.... I must say that your breakdown and quick uptake of the theatricality and use of music shifts to move the story along... is top drawer. You got the technicality without ignoring the raw emotional value of the pieces. I have great respect for your coverage. Thank you.
I missed the premiere 😫😫😫 I was a Violet for too long. I also almost died! Ren's music, these Tales specifically, helped me get away from being Violet as I staggered out of my grave and said "Not like this. Never like this." It's a long road to recovery, but I'm on it. Thanks for the love, Tim. The reactions to the Tales have given me a lot of tools for healing, including the knowledge that it is never, ever, ever the abuse victim's fault for being abused, no matter what their abusers say Also, I saw you catch the off chance laugh in the background. That timing was incredible
"His use of silence is a part of his songwriting, it's so smart" - yeah but not only that, it gives the listener a moment to breathe either to prepare before or to process after. Especially now that I know the songs I tend to take a deep breath when he does it audibly because it might be needed to stand the next part :D
There is NO ONE like Ren out there today. He is unique and real, that's why I adore his music, in all of the different styles and genres he performs. Amazing.
Not every generation have the opportunity in life to witness person like Ren, he is to say the least a living legend and I'm glad that I have the honour to live in this world as the same time as Ren ❤️
@@TwinkleToestheBerserker Cool! I forget, too! That's why I posted over on Patreon. This one isn't to be missed if possible! Hope to see you there! 💖🙋♀️
I’ve watched countless reactions to the Tales at this point and one thing I don’t remember anyone calling out is the change in accent or articulation he uses. An example would be at the beginning of Violet’s Tale with “London ci-iy, far from pri-iy,” where the Ts are a glottal stop instead, which is indicative of a London accent. That opening seems to be from her perspective with his eyes scanning the room in confusion. After the wind forward, the Ts in “London city, far from pretty” are articulated because that moment of perspective is coming from the doctor whose elocution would be different from a girl growing up in a council estate.
That is brilliant ❣️ I too have listened countless times and that difference in pronunciation only registered subconsciously as different and with more bitterness in the end. Thank you for drawing this and the interpretation to our attention ❣️🙏
I caught something on this listen at the very end where Violet is pleading with the doctor: "Please let my babies stay alive." The s at the start of "stay" disguises the fact that babies is plural and protects the dramatic reveal in the last line. Ren is a genius!
My preferred interpretation is that Violet DID say "let my baby stay alive" - that's how Ren writes it in the lyrics - because she hadn't had any prenatal care due to the violence in her relationship with Stevie, so she had no idea she was carrying twins. However, it does work so well either way!
Great reaction as always Tim - what a piece this is! Totally agree that it's so notable that Ren, someone who lyrically has the ability to say so much, also uses silence (and stillness) so effectively. This is particularly evident in Violet's Tale, with the way he lets the "I'm sure her mother knew" line hang with any music for a beat; how he stops walking and allows the camera to move away from him on the "you see Violet, she was pregnant" line and, my personal favourite, Ren moving from stumbling to regaining his balance right on the line " the doctor soon regained composure" - genius! While we are swept away by Ren's guitar skills, his acting ability and his storytelling, it's easy to forget the each part of the trilogy is a one-take. Who else can do all of this?
Nobody....how about in VT...he is playing a detailed part on the guitar, he is rapping, speaking poetry and singing while walking AND is looking at the camera as he is coming to a stop. His body is working on muscle memory, his guitar playing is using muscle memory on another section of the brain and then he is rapping/singing his words and concentrating on them because he needs to act the part and bring the specific emotion to that section. WoW.....he is a musical genius.
The use of the natural acoustics of the halls and stairwell in violets tale is also amazing, the calcuation of placememt and timing are fantastic, note the marks on the floor and walls..so much to concentrate on while performing
The way I see the cell phone scene.... we have to remember that Screech is 14, just killed someone, and is looking for safety. He's freaking out. Ren does have a back story that alludes to the idea that his first buddy is hooking up with his girl, but to me it shows the REALNESS of the chaos trying to find way out of what he just did.
I totally agree. I know the lore about Patrick & the girlfriend but, more than that, I see a scared & panicking kid in that moment. That's not to excuse what he did but I really don't think there was much forethought or planning or consideration of the consequences.
Whenever I watch this I can't help but notice how the narrator throughout all the tales is pretty steady and calm but at the end of Violet's Tale he's like stumbling around and seeming unsteady like even he's affected strongly by this.
One of the things I love so much about your reactions to Ren is that - unlike possibly any other reactor - you also have such a varied career regarding genres that you see and hear influences nobody else would, and have additional insight into how incredibly so many things have been woven together. Simultaneously unconventional yet telling stories that are universal. You understand the craftsmanship of something like this. Ren and Sam have said they have a concept for a Netflix show, and the Tales form part of their proof of what they can do. One day they're going to blow the whole world away. ❤
Ren has said he's actually written multiple episodes, but doesn't want to try to sell it until he knows his health is stable enough to see the project through.
Violet's Tale was my first introduction to Ren, via a clip on TikTok. I had to hunt it down, and I watched the entire Tales Trilogy and just knew I needed more. The Ren Rabbit Hole has been one of the best experiences of my life. His songs have helped me in so many ways, and I just love watching other people be touched and changed by them. That's part of why I keep watching Ren Reactions...and yours continue to be some of my absolute favorites. Thank you so much for letting us come on this journey with you.
I grew up by the ocean there’s no mistaking the calls of hungry sea gulls. The timing of their calls was perfect during the brief pause. I’m glad they just left them in. The sounds anchor the story to life in the present. There must be a pier nearby and a fishing boat or ferry came in, or there’s a processing plant and the gulls got lucky. I love Ren’s live videos. They’re just a whole other level of brilliant.
@@horsnpony365I'm guessing there were a lot more seagull sounds in the original recording and Ren edited them all out except for these ones. The sound of the seagulls emphasizes Violets quietness.
I can't play the guitar or sing. Half the time I can't walk without tripping over my feet. How he can sing in different characters, play guitar and walk without k!11!ng himself is astounding.
I’m right there with you, stumbling around, lol. Every time I listen to Back on 74/Message I’m in awe that it went from idea to filmed in 10 days. I could have 10 decades and not get past the idea stage.
Agreed 👍 I think it’s amazing to watch him perform Animal Flow. He walks backwards down stairs while rapping with ease. Peace and Live from Australia 🇦🇺
He is like a medieval minstrel brought up to date (they were the news spreaders of their day. Jennys tale was prompted by a newspaper story and people saying its such a shame then a few months later came Screeches tale then it was nearly 2 years later he released Violets tale tying it all together. Masterpiece. In UK unknown bodies are Jenny and James.
Consider how the newspaper headlines would read the next day. "Brother Unknowingly Kills Sister in Attempted Robbery." Or "Bizarre Fratricide Ends with Police Shooting."
As someone who survived abuse from both my parents and then husband, this one makes cry every single time. But its cathartic tears. I escaped it finally but not everyone does. Love Ten and love your reactions. ❤
I keep finding myself smiling just watching your reaction. You get it. You get that ren is a once in a lifetime preformer and good lord am i beyong happy im around to witness. ❤❤
Hell, YEAH! Thanks, Tim. I missed the last two premieres in real time because of work. Unfortunately, it will be the same today. I just know you're going to be blown away. Just remember... it's absolutely okay to cry. We all do. This is a big one, filled with layers upon layers, and Ren executes it perfectly. I'll be with you guys in spirit! Love & Light, my fellow RENagades. 🫶❤️🫶
Not many reactor's catch that Jenny worked the streets. Your creative antenna is high tech. LOL Always love your insight. This trilogy is such a modern day Shakespearean like tragedy and Ren really is a modern day musical Shakespeare. If I could sit and talk with ANYONE, I would choose Ren. I am fascinated by his depth and wisdom. He's such a uniquely creative soul. You took the words right out of my mouth...Fascinating!
Great feedback. REN is a beautifully talented artist in so many different was with just his guitar, acting, singing, and accompanied by a camera and natural elements, live, while all taken in one take. Absolutely brilliant! An out of this world talent, using his creativity to tell real stories.
Tim you always have the best reactions. I just know he will be watching, so I would like to let Ren know we are all pulling for him to get well. This world needs your light.
Thanks for this brilliant reaction! 🙏❤️ Especially you mentioning Three Penny Opera blew my mind!! Love it, listened to it so often and never made the connection😮 Maybe cause I always listened to the original German version? In any other reaction I've seen so far (quite a lot I guess😂) noone mentioned it. And of course there is Pirate Jenny! Makes me appreciate the tales even more. ❤
72yo Ren-egade here. I've seen several reactions to this work but no one has analysed the scintillae of music and theatre that Ren employs the way you have. Nothing is accidental, everything is there for a reason. I remember the first time I heard this and found myself in total denial and grief, it was so real. I often wonder where music can go as it sometimes feels like an exhausted medium. Ren shows the way. I grew up through the era of rock opera and know the power of theatrical, musical storytelling. I'm glad that Ren has reinvented musical theatre and that it resonates so broadly.
I love the use of environment in Violet's Tale. It's brilliant the way he uses the different echos of the room, hallway, and stairwell. I'm not sure if the the seagulls calling during the silence was added in post or just pure happenstance but I'm guessing the latter since you can hear that they boosted the volume to make it clearer.
At around 23:00 you wondered about what might be going on with Screech when he made the call to Babe. Imagine if you will, Screech just murdered Jenny one street over. 1st he turned to his friend who was not home, so now he turns to a girlfriend for support and she also is not available. He is spiraling out of control. Think he too has been traumatized.
I agree. Screech is a 14 year old boy who underneath his outward bravado is obviously terrified at what he’s just done. I think that might be what’s going on in his head when his girlfriend says she’s busy 😀
Wonderful reaction, Tim! Many of us think Ren is a genius for coming up with this trilogy. It was written over time, and each improves upon the last, but it is a piece of writing skill, stripped down production, cinematography, musical masterpiece that demonstrates the amazing virtuoso that is Ren.
6:09 Yes! You're the first person I've seen make this connection. I think it's even more apparent during "Screech's Tale". Thank you. You help make me feel like i know what im talking about.
Its a whole new new genre of entertainment. A whole musical using the intimacy of our small screens. I just hope that it is lucrative enough for Ren to continue making this incredible art and that Rens health allows him to do this, as and when. Thanks Tim, I always learn something from your reactions.
Great reaction Tim - just a little surprised that you didn't highlight Ren's use of different acoustic environments in Violet's Tale. I always find it interesting/amusing that even the most pedantic of breakdown reactors shift through the Trilogy (and Hi Ren) from starting off with purely technical reactions to invariably ending on purely visceral/emotional ones - this, to my mind, is the highest compliment to Ren's art, that his message invariably transcends the medium he employs to share it, even though (in fact, because) that technique is exemplary.
Same...after 100's it's always the same. Even the most dedicated music/voice coach/instructor/teacher forget all about that as soon as Ren stands up from the bed in Violet's Tale...😂
Yeah there's just so much to talk about, and it's already a 40 minute video. I imagine Tim could talk for hours to say everything he wants to say about these.
I will happily absorb a comment like this if you are willing to sit through me doing a true deep dive! I am constantly restraining my analytical mind when I do these things. I could go so many layers deeper on my analysis than I do here that it’s crazy. I’m going to start to do that here and there actually. I’ll do extended breakdowns for you super hard-core people you might like it. There’s so much more to talk about.
Outstanding reaction man. You did a great job of conveying what and why you were enjoying these pieces so much. You're absolutely spot on with how effectively Ren transitions between characters and scenes using silence or a guitar jump. Not sure if you caught the use of the knocking on the guitar in Screechs Tale (I'm sure you probably did but didn't mention it), or also after Violet is beaten, he reversed the hands of time scale to return to where he had taken us back in Violets tale, just masterful storytelling.
Silence is magic, even really quick - It gets (oh so quickly) so quiet YOU CAN HEAR THE PIN DROP from the grenade in Animal Flow, for instance. Another cool example is in Right Here Right Now Retake when the brother knocks on the door lol
This song really showcases his heritage being Welsh. They have such a long history of being amazing story tellers, and bards. They use to have festivals to celebrate and tell stories that still go on to this day. He amazes me with every song he does and how he's such a brilliant wordsmith.
Tim!! Your reaction, analysis, and expertise is so appreciated. We always learn from you I’ve watched 1000 reactions to this but you bring a perspective and knowledgeable appreciation that is unmatched. I swear I could hear your heart pounding on that first run through of Violet’s Tale. I have said many times that Ren has brought us something we’ve never seen before. That is really hard to do in the entertainment business. Thank you so much for doing what you are doing. You’ve gotten me through some lonely nights and I’m always better for it.
Ren gives me barde (minstrel) vibes, he instantly pulls me into his stoytelling. So gripping (is this the right word, or should I say captivating?). I also love how he plays guitar, it fits so perfect... That's really beyond brilliant. He's sooo special! Also love your reaction! ❤
I cant walk and chew gum if i want to stay upright and here he is playing super complex guitar riffs walking down stairs. I also love in Screechs tale when the camera is circling him. Thanks for a great review and very helpful.
A couple of points in 'Violets Tale', when Ren is singing hauntingly (in the bed), looking around as if confused, he is portraying Violet waking up in the hospital confused; also, many reactors miss that at the foot of Violets bed is a sign that says, Violet, Bed 3. Also, at the end of Screeches Tale, Ren sings, "our story it (ends) right at the (start), 2 bodies lying one street apart" is an Easter Egg, relating to Violet giving birth to twins, "two twins, aligned side by side"; they were born on the same day, lying side by side (beginning), and died on the same day, lying one street apart (end).
To your last point, it's an interesting use of bookends in Screech's Tale. "Our story it ends, right at the start." At the start flipping convention and then ending the tale with, "Our story it ends, right at the start." Flipping conventional ordering and mirror flipping the start like he did in the beginning. Another tidbit that is interesting. In Violet's Tale, the audio manipulation of Ren's acoustics mirrors Violet's situations. When she's trapped within the cycles of abuse, the camera is close, and the audio acoustics are closed in. As she "escapes" the cycle moving out at 16, we've moved out spatially introducing more acoustic reverb. And then back in close again as the abuse starts again. Intentional? Idk, but knowing Ren and Samuel's body of work, I'd say it must be.
It's one thing that most reactors miss and I love the start of Violets tale, to me it seems obvious but that might be because I've watched it 49 million times 😂
Honestly, I would only watch a 40 minute reaction by a handful of reactors. Listening to your insights, and seeing your joy made the time vanish. Love your passion, but also how you back it up with knowledge and experience. Will skim through in a second to remind myself of the Oprah you recommended - sounds interesting.
OMG - i've been saying since i heard this trilogy that it puts me in mind of threepenny opera - you're the first reactor i've heard make that comparison. also - pirate jenny's song is straight fire. I particularly love the German language version as sung by lotte lenya
The Swedish translation of the play is called Tolvshillingsoperan (12 shilling opera). I did the role of Mrs. Peachum many years ago 😊 Fun but challenging with Kurt Weill. I also associate Jenny, with that character in the play, although I remember her as quite tough. James/Screech might have belonged to Macheath's gang, if his character had been in the play 🙂 I experience Ren's work as a mix of the Twelve Shillings Opera and Alan-A-Dale telling stories with his lute in Robin Hood 😊
You had me at Three Penny Opera. I have to go re watch it now. I have watched umpteen reactions to this and with your insight have discovered much more. Thank you. Well done.
Thank you Tim, one of the best artfully balanced and heartfelt reactions to this trilogy I have viewed for sometime. Ren's performance is outstanding and, often because of how this draws us in, the absolute genius of Sam Perry-Falvey, Ren's long time friend and videographer, is sometimes overlooked. Sam's brilliant work on focus, e.g. closeup on Ren's eyes at 'pinches the eyelids and folds them up' is just amazing camera work - particularly as these pieces are each a live one-take whilst on the move through alleys and a building. Also many miss the wee easter egg - the hospital bed Ren is on in the opening scene of Violets Tale: 'Bd 3 Violet', plus the 'guitar wind time forward again' at the transition after the beating scene. One of the top reactions for this one. Kudos. Kia kaha from NZ
Thank you so much for this beautiful reaction! I would have to say this trilogy is my favorite from Ren, and I appreciate so much the analysis you give here. ☺️
I spend a very large portion of my downtime watching reaction videos and just wanted to say how much I enjoyed this one. It is very much a "wow" and goosebumps trilogy, as you certainly found out. I will definitely be checking out Three Penny Opera! Thank you for this 🥰
Sometimes I just stop to think at the same time appreciate. Such a captivating video, and for 1 man and just his guitar. Definitely one of a kind. Once a Renegade always a Renegade!
One of the best breakdowns I’ve seen! Incredible work my friend! Thank you for giving this one the attention it deserves. I may suggest the love music series. There are 4 total but seems like they were very much written at various stages in arena career and it gives you a chance to see how his craft progresses through each one.
@staceyharris4937 also Ren explains how Jenny felt something in the air that particular night. They say Twins have a special connection and that's why she felt something in the air 🤯👍
Your breakdowns are always so good. ❤❤❤❤❤ Ren made an Instagram promo video for this that's interesting to watch which seems to suggest that there is something going on between Screech's girlfriend and Patrick. He says in the comments section that that little video got him into trouble with some of his fans. The girlfriend and Patrick also show up in the video for the Big Push's Why My Woman
The more i watch these tales (many, many times so far 😁) the more blown away i am, from the lyrics, to the music, the delivery, the amazing filming and use of the environment. Im dazzled every time. Go Ren and team! (Great reaction too) 🪩❤️
Best reaction of this yet! 🔥I loved how you listened through each one, then broke it down. I think it definitely helped you catch and feel more than you would breaking it down on the initial view.
I love your references to Threepenny Opera. Very fitting. I played in the pit for it years ago and fell on love with it. Looking forward to our local opera company's production next month.
I thoroughly enjoy your breakdowns ❤ Especially how you listen with us then backtrack to do your breakdown. Thank you!! Ren is a musical genius for so many reasons.
Ren is a very special human being. We all love & care about him. Great commentary! You’re reaction at the end of Violet’s Tale was the exact same that I had.
These are dark tales but oh so needed in order to shine light on the shadowy subject matter. I love how Ren is giving voices to Jenny and Violet. Neither of them speak during the horrific events they both endured during their tale (though Violet does plead for the doctor to save her baby). Too often victims of such dark acts are silent (Violet), or silenced by those that commit the acts, or silenced by wrongly self-inflicted guilt, shame or fear, or silenced by societal stigmas, or actually die in silence (Jenny and Violet afterwards). Ren is allowing them to be heard and giving a voice to Jenny and Violet and all those that suffer through real-world trauma and have lived through unimaginable darkness. They deserve to be heard and their voices matter. Wonderful breakdown, analysis and reaction to Ren’s dark, yet beautiful, masterpiece of a trilogy. It’s amazing to see how Ren’s work has inspired you and so many others, and how you’re likewise providing inspiration to those around you. Brilliant job 👏🏻 ❤️🍺
I think that article about Ren not being a "BardCore"..... is he is MORE than just a bardcore. But he is absolutely a bardcore on steroids while performing the " Tales"
I squealed when you said Threepenny-Opera! I tried to convince Peter Barber to react to the tales by describing the tales as a modern Threepenny-opera. Unfortunately, without success, but maybe he will do it in the future. 😊 What I love about your reactions is that you not only understand all the musical details and influences but also the lyrical power of Ren's work. I can't wait for Ren's next tales influenced by the story of dutch painter Van Gogh!
One of the coolest parts of the Violet song that I didn't hear you talk about is the echoes of the hallways and the use of that stairwell to enhance that beautiful falsetto part. Absolute genius...
Very nice review and reaction. I enjoy that you watched and took in each song and then went through it again to give us all your knowledge and insight. Thanks for taking the time I know it was a longer one, but also such an important one. ❤
I woukd like so much to watch Your reaction to Ren's duet : ✨Penitence. And thank You for today's trylogy.💙🌎 This is amazing how Ren was able to create and draw us into the story. With himself and so few tools, he created an image, every character, movement, emotion. He touched the most sensitive strings in us....😞🌎💙✨
I love that you listen to each part in full before going back to deep dive/react / it allows you to get the full experience of how the story breaks down. Too many reactors stop every 15 seconds on their first listen which I think means that they miss a big part of the beauty of the story telling. It was clearly designed to be listened to as a continuous flowing story. Keep up the good work! Money game trilogy soon??
It was so fun to watch your layers of shock with each realization I love your decompression idea - staring at a wall for a few hours and drink a cup of coffee...
I just want to add that Jenny's Tale was first released as a digital download back in 2015. That is four years before he made the video for it, which was released just before Screech's Tale in 2019. And then, three years later, Violet's Tale was released in 2022. So it was not a pre-planned trilogy, but a story that evolved over seven years.
Ren is so special,I was a victim of domestic violence and managed to escape .The line that always brings me to tears is "Do you think I want to do this"my abuser used to say that.Outstanding creative artist Ren showing people the other side of life as well as the happy side.He is a master of words and music😮
Yeah... That one got me, too ❤️🩹
Yup! Of all the hard hitting lines, and the way he slaps his chest, that’s the one that punches the hardest. Big loves to us survivors, it was not our fault ❤
I’m sorry you had that in your life (I have too) but we both got out! Yes Ren is spot on!
I'm with you. "Do you think I want to do this Violet?" Always gets me. That combined with the way he slaps his chest as he says it, makes me wince and kinda jolt. It's painful to hear.😢 Ren does this really well.
That gets me too... 😢
But I left, after the "first hit", after two years of psychological Abuse.
(But I was pregnant, so my son actually saved me, before he was born.❤)
To protect my baby, made it "easier" for me...I think.
At last a reactor who immediately picked up that Jenny was working the streets...bravo sir!
@@andrewphillips3973ikr? I've only heard one other person pick that up & it was a guest of the reactor & they kinda argued about it. I was telling my screen "c'mon! Are you stupid are you dumb for fi fo fum!" Lol this is what Ren has done to me I argue out loud with reactors who cannot hear me & aren't live as if they should be able to get it telepathically. Hmm. I bet REN would! Lol
Jenny was only 14...a prostitute?? If so that is even more disturbing 😯
4:53 WOW! Never seen a reactor make that connection with Jenny first time through!!! I tip my hat to you sir! Sure many come to that conclusion after the fact but never the first go! Impressive ear my friend!
I have watched a number of "Reactions" to this piece.... I must say that your breakdown and quick uptake of the theatricality and use of music shifts to move the story along... is top drawer. You got the technicality without ignoring the raw emotional value of the pieces. I have great respect for your coverage. Thank you.
Love and agree with this comment! ❤
I concur.
I missed the premiere 😫😫😫
I was a Violet for too long. I also almost died! Ren's music, these Tales specifically, helped me get away from being Violet as I staggered out of my grave and said "Not like this. Never like this."
It's a long road to recovery, but I'm on it. Thanks for the love, Tim. The reactions to the Tales have given me a lot of tools for healing, including the knowledge that it is never, ever, ever the abuse victim's fault for being abused, no matter what their abusers say
Also, I saw you catch the off chance laugh in the background. That timing was incredible
Much ❤ to you.
Glad you survived ❤️. Love how Stevie blames Violet - so real.
@@spruce381 The realest
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Me too, it definitely resonates with me ❤
"His use of silence is a part of his songwriting, it's so smart" - yeah but not only that, it gives the listener a moment to breathe either to prepare before or to process after. Especially now that I know the songs I tend to take a deep breath when he does it audibly because it might be needed to stand the next part :D
There is NO ONE like Ren out there today. He is unique and real, that's why I adore his music, in all of the different styles and genres he performs. Amazing.
Not every generation have the opportunity in life to witness person like Ren, he is to say the least a living legend and I'm glad that I have the honour to live in this world as the same time as Ren ❤️
I'm sharing this over on Ren's Patreon reaction chat! SO excited!
Awesome, thanks so much!
I'm here because of barbara because I never remember to look at community tabs
This is going to be amazing, I just know it
@@TwinkleToestheBerserker Cool! I forget, too! That's why I posted over on Patreon. This one isn't to be missed if possible! Hope to see you there! 💖🙋♀️
@@TimWelchVocalStudio My pleasure!💖🙋♀️✨
See you Tim in the comments in 47 hours!! Excited for this one 👍🔥🔥🇬🇧🇺🇸🫶🏻🫶🏻 one of my favourite 👍
I’ve watched countless reactions to the Tales at this point and one thing I don’t remember anyone calling out is the change in accent or articulation he uses. An example would be at the beginning of Violet’s Tale with “London ci-iy, far from pri-iy,” where the Ts are a glottal stop instead, which is indicative of a London accent. That opening seems to be from her perspective with his eyes scanning the room in confusion. After the wind forward, the Ts in “London city, far from pretty” are articulated because that moment of perspective is coming from the doctor whose elocution would be different from a girl growing up in a council estate.
I also love the guitar rewind then when he's jumping forward he fast forwards. So clever. Tricky tricky.
That is brilliant ❣️
I too have listened countless times and that difference in pronunciation only registered subconsciously as different and with more bitterness in the end. Thank you for drawing this and the interpretation to our attention ❣️🙏
I caught something on this listen at the very end where Violet is pleading with the doctor: "Please let my babies stay alive." The s at the start of "stay" disguises the fact that babies is plural and protects the dramatic reveal in the last line. Ren is a genius!
My preferred interpretation is that Violet DID say "let my baby stay alive" - that's how Ren writes it in the lyrics - because she hadn't had any prenatal care due to the violence in her relationship with Stevie, so she had no idea she was carrying twins.
However, it does work so well either way!
I've always heard it as baby, I took it as an indication that Violet couldn't go for prenatal care. Just another part of this horrible cycle.
The representation of the cycle of violence portrayed by the stairwell is brilliance
Never get tired of this Trilogy it is so captivating
Great reaction as always Tim - what a piece this is! Totally agree that it's so notable that Ren, someone who lyrically has the ability to say so much, also uses silence (and stillness) so effectively. This is particularly evident in Violet's Tale, with the way he lets the "I'm sure her mother knew" line hang with any music for a beat; how he stops walking and allows the camera to move away from him on the "you see Violet, she was pregnant" line and, my personal favourite, Ren moving from stumbling to regaining his balance right on the line " the doctor soon regained composure" - genius! While we are swept away by Ren's guitar skills, his acting ability and his storytelling, it's easy to forget the each part of the trilogy is a one-take. Who else can do all of this?
Nobody....how about in VT...he is playing a detailed part on the guitar, he is rapping, speaking poetry and singing while walking AND is looking at the camera as he is coming to a stop. His body is working on muscle memory, his guitar playing is using muscle memory on another section of the brain and then he is rapping/singing his words and concentrating on them because he needs to act the part and bring the specific emotion to that section. WoW.....he is a musical genius.
Can you imagine how many strings this man has broken in his life?
He flat out abuses them. Beautifully.
We saw one explode on the 'angry car park attendant' video 😅
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The use of the natural acoustics of the halls and stairwell in violets tale is also amazing, the calcuation of placememt and timing are fantastic, note the marks on the floor and walls..so much to concentrate on while performing
The way I see the cell phone scene.... we have to remember that Screech is 14, just killed someone, and is looking for safety. He's freaking out. Ren does have a back story that alludes to the idea that his first buddy is hooking up with his girl, but to me it shows the REALNESS of the chaos trying to find way out of what he just did.
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I totally agree. I know the lore about Patrick & the girlfriend but, more than that, I see a scared & panicking kid in that moment. That's not to excuse what he did but I really don't think there was much forethought or planning or consideration of the consequences.
Whenever I watch this I can't help but notice how the narrator throughout all the tales is pretty steady and calm but at the end of Violet's Tale he's like stumbling around and seeming unsteady like even he's affected strongly by this.
One of the things I love so much about your reactions to Ren is that - unlike possibly any other reactor - you also have such a varied career regarding genres that you see and hear influences nobody else would, and have additional insight into how incredibly so many things have been woven together. Simultaneously unconventional yet telling stories that are universal. You understand the craftsmanship of something like this.
Ren and Sam have said they have a concept for a Netflix show, and the Tales form part of their proof of what they can do. One day they're going to blow the whole world away. ❤
Ren has said he's actually written multiple episodes, but doesn't want to try to sell it until he knows his health is stable enough to see the project through.
Rock the world !
Violet's Tale was my first introduction to Ren, via a clip on TikTok. I had to hunt it down, and I watched the entire Tales Trilogy and just knew I needed more.
The Ren Rabbit Hole has been one of the best experiences of my life. His songs have helped me in so many ways, and I just love watching other people be touched and changed by them. That's part of why I keep watching Ren Reactions...and yours continue to be some of my absolute favorites. Thank you so much for letting us come on this journey with you.
Actually what you hear in the background during the outdoor part of Violet's tale is seagulls. Brighton is a beach town.
And the shoot was delayed because of rain, so it was early morning when this take was done.
Wow!!! I always heard this as sirens as well and was amazed at the good timing. But now listening after reading this, I hear the gulls!!
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I grew up by the ocean there’s no mistaking the calls of hungry sea gulls. The timing of their calls was perfect during the brief pause. I’m glad they just left them in. The sounds anchor the story to life in the present. There must be a pier nearby and a fishing boat or ferry came in, or there’s a processing plant and the gulls got lucky. I love Ren’s live videos. They’re just a whole other level of brilliant.
@@horsnpony365I'm guessing there were a lot more seagull sounds in the original recording and Ren edited them all out except for these ones.
The sound of the seagulls emphasizes Violets quietness.
I can't play the guitar or sing. Half the time I can't walk without tripping over my feet. How he can sing in different characters, play guitar and walk without k!11!ng himself is astounding.
I’m right there with you, stumbling around, lol. Every time I listen to Back on 74/Message I’m in awe that it went from idea to filmed in 10 days. I could have 10 decades and not get past the idea stage.
Agreed 👍 I think it’s amazing to watch him perform Animal Flow. He walks backwards down stairs while rapping with ease.
Peace and Live from Australia 🇦🇺
He is like a medieval minstrel brought up to date (they were the news spreaders of their day.
Jennys tale was prompted by a newspaper story and people saying its such a shame then a few months later came Screeches tale then it was nearly 2 years later he released Violets tale tying it all together. Masterpiece.
In UK unknown bodies are Jenny and James.
Their version of John Dow and Jane Doe?
@@garthmckeil9539 Yes, the UK's version of the US's Jane Doe and John Doe.
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Consider how the newspaper headlines would read the next day. "Brother Unknowingly Kills Sister in Attempted Robbery." Or "Bizarre Fratricide Ends with Police Shooting."
As someone who survived abuse from both my parents and then husband, this one makes cry every single time. But its cathartic tears. I escaped it finally but not everyone does. Love Ten and love your reactions. ❤
You know it's a great reaction when I had no idea I'd been watching for 45 minutes! The Tales are so heavy, but so incredibly well done.
He packs so much story in, you can fill several pages with it, then blows your mind with the very last line!
I keep finding myself smiling just watching your reaction. You get it. You get that ren is a once in a lifetime preformer and good lord am i beyong happy im around to witness. ❤❤
Hell, YEAH! Thanks, Tim. I missed the last two premieres in real time because of work. Unfortunately, it will be the same today. I just know you're going to be blown away. Just remember... it's absolutely okay to cry. We all do. This is a big one, filled with layers upon layers, and Ren executes it perfectly. I'll be with you guys in spirit! Love & Light, my fellow RENagades. 🫶❤️🫶
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This one grabs onto your heart and doesn’t let go. 💔
The intro to Violet's Tale is the best musical thing ever ❤tough subject matter though. Thanks Tim
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Such a great reaction, Tim. You break it down like no other. Such insight. Thanks. ❤
Not many reactor's catch that Jenny worked the streets. Your creative antenna is high tech. LOL
Always love your insight.
This trilogy is such a modern day Shakespearean like tragedy and Ren really is a modern day musical Shakespeare. If I could sit and talk with ANYONE, I would choose Ren. I am fascinated by his depth and wisdom. He's such a uniquely creative soul. You took the words right out of my mouth...Fascinating!
Great feedback. REN is a beautifully talented artist in so many different was with just his guitar, acting, singing, and accompanied by a camera and natural elements, live, while all taken in one take. Absolutely brilliant! An out of this world talent, using his creativity to tell real stories.
Tim you always have the best reactions. I just know he will be watching, so I would like to let Ren know we are all pulling for him to get well. This world needs your light.
So look forward to your reactions to Ren Tim really enjoy your facial reactions and knowledge 👌🏻🥰
Thanks for this brilliant reaction! 🙏❤️ Especially you mentioning Three Penny Opera blew my mind!! Love it, listened to it so often and never made the connection😮 Maybe cause I always listened to the original German version? In any other reaction I've seen so far (quite a lot I guess😂) noone mentioned it. And of course there is Pirate Jenny!
Makes me appreciate the tales even more. ❤
72yo Ren-egade here. I've seen several reactions to this work but no one has analysed the scintillae of music and theatre that Ren employs the way you have. Nothing is accidental, everything is there for a reason. I remember the first time I heard this and found myself in total denial and grief, it was so real. I often wonder where music can go as it sometimes feels like an exhausted medium. Ren shows the way. I grew up through the era of rock opera and know the power of theatrical, musical storytelling. I'm glad that Ren has reinvented musical theatre and that it resonates so broadly.
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Wow. Wow. Wow Mind blown. Perfect reaction, “I need to go look at a blank wall now.” Thanks❤️
I love the use of environment in Violet's Tale. It's brilliant the way he uses the different echos of the room, hallway, and stairwell. I'm not sure if the the seagulls calling during the silence was added in post or just pure happenstance but I'm guessing the latter since you can hear that they boosted the volume to make it clearer.
At around 23:00 you wondered about what might be going on with Screech when he made the call to Babe. Imagine if you will, Screech just murdered Jenny one street over. 1st he turned to his friend who was not home, so now he turns to a girlfriend for support and she also is not available. He is spiraling out of control. Think he too has been traumatized.
I agree. Screech is a 14 year old boy who underneath his outward bravado is obviously terrified at what he’s just done. I think that might be what’s going on in his head when his girlfriend says she’s busy 😀
Wonderful reaction, Tim! Many of us think Ren is a genius for coming up with this trilogy. It was written over time, and each improves upon the last, but it is a piece of writing skill, stripped down production, cinematography, musical masterpiece that demonstrates the amazing virtuoso that is Ren.
Thrilled you appreciate Ren as much as I do, as many of us do.
6:09 Yes! You're the first person I've seen make this connection. I think it's even more apparent during "Screech's Tale". Thank you. You help make me feel like i know what im talking about.
Its a whole new new genre of entertainment. A whole musical using the intimacy of our small screens. I just hope that it is lucrative enough for Ren to continue making this incredible art and that Rens health allows him to do this, as and when. Thanks Tim, I always learn something from your reactions.
Great reaction Tim - just a little surprised that you didn't highlight Ren's use of different acoustic environments in Violet's Tale. I always find it interesting/amusing that even the most pedantic of breakdown reactors shift through the Trilogy (and Hi Ren) from starting off with purely technical reactions to invariably ending on purely visceral/emotional ones - this, to my mind, is the highest compliment to Ren's art, that his message invariably transcends the medium he employs to share it, even though (in fact, because) that technique is exemplary.
Same...after 100's it's always the same. Even the most dedicated music/voice coach/instructor/teacher forget all about that as soon as Ren stands up from the bed in Violet's Tale...😂
Things like "This wrecked me" on the reactors headline...😂
Yeah there's just so much to talk about, and it's already a 40 minute video. I imagine Tim could talk for hours to say everything he wants to say about these.
I will happily absorb a comment like this if you are willing to sit through me doing a true deep dive!
I am constantly restraining my analytical mind when I do these things. I could go so many layers deeper on my analysis than I do here that it’s crazy.
I’m going to start to do that here and there actually. I’ll do extended breakdowns for you super hard-core people you might like it. There’s so much more to talk about.
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So thrilled! I can't wait! :o) 💙
As a Renegade I have seen probably 100+ reactions to this but yours is honestly the best ever. Ren is a once in a lifetime artist .
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Again awesome reaction. That ending still gets me even after having watched people react to this numerous times.
Outstanding reaction man. You did a great job of conveying what and why you were enjoying these pieces so much.
You're absolutely spot on with how effectively Ren transitions between characters and scenes using silence or a guitar jump. Not sure if you caught the use of the knocking on the guitar in Screechs Tale (I'm sure you probably did but didn't mention it), or also after Violet is beaten, he reversed the hands of time scale to return to where he had taken us back in Violets tale, just masterful storytelling.
Silence is magic, even really quick - It gets (oh so quickly) so quiet YOU CAN HEAR THE PIN DROP from the grenade in Animal Flow, for instance. Another cool example is in Right Here Right Now Retake when the brother knocks on the door lol
This song really showcases his heritage being Welsh. They have such a long history of being amazing story tellers, and bards. They use to have festivals to celebrate and tell stories that still go on to this day. He amazes me with every song he does and how he's such a brilliant wordsmith.
Tim!! Your reaction, analysis, and expertise is so appreciated. We always learn from you I’ve watched 1000 reactions to this but you bring a perspective and knowledgeable appreciation that is unmatched. I swear I could hear your heart pounding on that first run through of Violet’s Tale. I have said many times that Ren has brought us something we’ve never seen before. That is really hard to do in the entertainment business. Thank you so much for doing what you are doing. You’ve gotten me through some lonely nights and I’m always better for it.
I remember that feeling when I first experience this too, yes I was the same, shock, awe and chills, the Ren effect ❤
Thanks for the reaction and chatting with us.❤
Ren gives me barde (minstrel) vibes, he instantly pulls me into his stoytelling.
So gripping (is this the right word, or should I say captivating?).
I also love how he plays guitar, it fits so perfect... That's really beyond brilliant.
He's sooo special!
Also love your reaction! ❤
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I cant walk and chew gum if i want to stay upright and here he is playing super complex guitar riffs walking down stairs. I also love in Screechs tale when the camera is circling him. Thanks for a great review and very helpful.
Great reaction and breakdown Tim. Thanks!!
A couple of points in 'Violets Tale', when Ren is singing hauntingly (in the bed), looking around as if confused, he is portraying Violet waking up in the hospital confused; also, many reactors miss that at the foot of Violets bed is a sign that says, Violet, Bed 3. Also, at the end of Screeches Tale, Ren sings, "our story it (ends) right at the (start), 2 bodies lying one street apart" is an Easter Egg, relating to Violet giving birth to twins, "two twins, aligned side by side"; they were born on the same day, lying side by side (beginning), and died on the same day, lying one street apart (end).
To your last point, it's an interesting use of bookends in Screech's Tale. "Our story it ends, right at the start." At the start flipping convention and then ending the tale with, "Our story it ends, right at the start."
Flipping conventional ordering and mirror flipping the start like he did in the beginning.
Another tidbit that is interesting. In Violet's Tale, the audio manipulation of Ren's acoustics mirrors Violet's situations. When she's trapped within the cycles of abuse, the camera is close, and the audio acoustics are closed in. As she "escapes" the cycle moving out at 16, we've moved out spatially introducing more acoustic reverb. And then back in close again as the abuse starts again. Intentional? Idk, but knowing Ren and Samuel's body of work, I'd say it must be.
It's one thing that most reactors miss and I love the start of Violets tale, to me it seems obvious but that might be because I've watched it 49 million times 😂
The art of drawing perfect circles
Honestly, I would only watch a 40 minute reaction by a handful of reactors. Listening to your insights, and seeing your joy made the time vanish. Love your passion, but also how you back it up with knowledge and experience. Will skim through in a second to remind myself of the Oprah you recommended - sounds interesting.
'beyond brilliant' quite right
Looking forward to seeing more of you Renegade Tim
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Loved your reaction to the end. Just as dark as the three penny opera.
OMG - i've been saying since i heard this trilogy that it puts me in mind of threepenny opera - you're the first reactor i've heard make that comparison. also - pirate jenny's song is straight fire. I particularly love the German language version as sung by lotte lenya
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Loved watching this with you. Thanks x
The Swedish translation of the play is called Tolvshillingsoperan (12 shilling opera). I did the role of Mrs. Peachum many years ago 😊 Fun but challenging with Kurt Weill.
I also associate Jenny, with that character in the play, although I remember her as quite tough. James/Screech might have belonged to Macheath's gang, if his character had been in the play 🙂
I experience Ren's work as a mix of the Twelve Shillings Opera and Alan-A-Dale telling stories with his lute in Robin Hood 😊
That’s so cool.
You had me at Three Penny Opera. I have to go re watch it now. I have watched umpteen reactions to this and with your insight have discovered much more. Thank you. Well done.
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Ditto. I personally haven’t seen a reaction to this that mentions Brecht - though they might exist outside of my own YT viewing, of course.
Thank you Tim, one of the best artfully balanced and heartfelt reactions to this trilogy I have viewed for sometime. Ren's performance is outstanding and, often because of how this draws us in, the absolute genius of Sam Perry-Falvey, Ren's long time friend and videographer, is sometimes overlooked. Sam's brilliant work on focus, e.g. closeup on Ren's eyes at 'pinches the eyelids and folds them up' is just amazing camera work - particularly as these pieces are each a live one-take whilst on the move through alleys and a building. Also many miss the wee easter egg - the hospital bed Ren is on in the opening scene of Violets Tale: 'Bd 3 Violet', plus the 'guitar wind time forward again' at the transition after the beating scene. One of the top reactions for this one. Kudos. Kia kaha from NZ
Thank you so much for this beautiful reaction! I would have to say this trilogy is my favorite from Ren, and I appreciate so much the analysis you give here. ☺️
I think the police sirens you thought you heard are actually seagulls (I'm sure this was shot in Brighton, which is on the sea). Great reaction!!!
I spend a very large portion of my downtime watching reaction videos and just wanted to say how much I enjoyed this one. It is very much a "wow" and goosebumps trilogy, as you certainly found out. I will definitely be checking out Three Penny Opera! Thank you for this 🥰
Sometimes I just stop to think at the same time appreciate. Such a captivating video, and for 1 man and just his guitar. Definitely one of a kind. Once a Renegade always a Renegade!
Heavy...and beautiful...well said. Thank you Tim for another great one.
One of the best breakdowns I’ve seen! Incredible work my friend! Thank you for giving this one the attention it deserves. I may suggest the love music series. There are 4 total but seems like they were very much written at various stages in arena career and it gives you a chance to see how his craft progresses through each one.
Same reason as his friend not being available when Ren was knocking on the door (girlfriend and best friend together) 😉🙏💪🐝🍀🇬🇧
I didn't put that together!😮
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@staceyharris4937 also Ren explains how Jenny felt something in the air that particular night. They say Twins have a special connection and that's why she felt something in the air 🤯👍
@@staceyharris4937maybe, it's just a guess
Loved your reaction!!❤
Great reaction! I've heard this trilogy so many times I can almost recite it! This breakdown was a warm, genuine connection to the art. 🤌
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Your breakdowns are always so good. ❤❤❤❤❤
Ren made an Instagram promo video for this that's interesting to watch which seems to suggest that there is something going on between Screech's girlfriend and Patrick. He says in the comments section that that little video got him into trouble with some of his fans. The girlfriend and Patrick also show up in the video for the Big Push's Why My Woman
The more i watch these tales (many, many times so far 😁) the more blown away i am, from the lyrics, to the music, the delivery, the amazing filming and use of the environment. Im dazzled every time. Go Ren and team! (Great reaction too) 🪩❤️
Best reaction of this yet! 🔥I loved how you listened through each one, then broke it down. I think it definitely helped you catch and feel more than you would breaking it down on the initial view.
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This was such a great reaction musical breakdown ❤❤❤❤
I love your references to Threepenny Opera. Very fitting. I played in the pit for it years ago and fell on love with it. Looking forward to our local opera company's production next month.
I thoroughly enjoy your breakdowns ❤ Especially how you listen with us then backtrack to do your breakdown. Thank you!! Ren is a musical genius for so many reasons.
Ren is a very special human being. We all love & care about him.
Great commentary!
You’re reaction at the end of Violet’s Tale was the exact same that I had.
Have watched REN’s trilogy numerous times, and through the eyes of many reactors. Your reaction in depth and breadth is fantastic. Thank you ❤
These are dark tales but oh so needed in order to shine light on the shadowy subject matter. I love how Ren is giving voices to Jenny and Violet. Neither of them speak during the horrific events they both endured during their tale (though Violet does plead for the doctor to save her baby).
Too often victims of such dark acts are silent (Violet), or silenced by those that commit the acts, or silenced by wrongly self-inflicted guilt, shame or fear, or silenced by societal stigmas, or actually die in silence (Jenny and Violet afterwards).
Ren is allowing them to be heard and giving a voice to Jenny and Violet and all those that suffer through real-world trauma and have lived through unimaginable darkness.
They deserve to be heard and their voices matter.
Wonderful breakdown, analysis and reaction to Ren’s dark, yet beautiful, masterpiece of a trilogy. It’s amazing to see how Ren’s work has inspired you and so many others, and how you’re likewise providing inspiration to those around you.
Brilliant job 👏🏻 ❤️🍺
Cheers! 👊🏼
I think that article about Ren not being a "BardCore"..... is he is MORE than just a bardcore. But he is absolutely a bardcore on steroids while performing the " Tales"
I showed up at the end of the stream so jumped to the beginning. It was a wild ride. Thanks for covering this. 💜
OMG, what a great reaction at the end :) Thank you so much for sharing your heartfelt reaction!!
Thank you, such an amazing piece of art.
I squealed when you said Threepenny-Opera! I tried to convince Peter Barber to react to the tales by describing the tales as a modern Threepenny-opera. Unfortunately, without success, but maybe he will do it in the future. 😊
What I love about your reactions is that you not only understand all the musical details and influences but also the lyrical power of Ren's work.
I can't wait for Ren's next tales influenced by the story of dutch painter Van Gogh!
One of the coolest parts of the Violet song that I didn't hear you talk about is the echoes of the hallways and the use of that stairwell to enhance that beautiful falsetto part. Absolute genius...
Very nice review and reaction. I enjoy that you watched and took in each song and then went through it again to give us all your knowledge and insight. Thanks for taking the time I know it was a longer one, but also such an important one. ❤
Ren is just the best. Your reactions are just the best, thank you ❤
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Ren did a series of Instagram stories that gave more context to the songs.
I've been patiently waiting for you to do the Tales. Something told me it would be fantastic and you did not disappoint! Awesome video!
Thanks Chris! 🙌🏼✨
The anguish in the vocal in Skreech's tale when Ren says. where did he go, is fantastic.
The whole tales are a pure masterpiece from both Ren and Sam
Really loved what you just termed music purists! Perfect way to explain my musical interests. Thanks man!
I woukd like so much to watch Your reaction to Ren's duet : ✨Penitence.
And thank You for today's trylogy.💙🌎
This is amazing how Ren was able to create and draw us into the story. With himself and so few tools, he created an image, every character, movement, emotion. He touched the most sensitive strings in us....😞🌎💙✨
I love that you listen to each part in full before going back to deep dive/react / it allows you to get the full experience of how the story breaks down. Too many reactors stop every 15 seconds on their first listen which I think means that they miss a big part of the beauty of the story telling. It was clearly designed to be listened to as a continuous flowing story.
Keep up the good work! Money game trilogy soon??
Thanks! Coming soon.
It was so fun to watch your layers of shock with each realization I love your decompression idea - staring at a wall for a few hours and drink a cup of coffee...
I just want to add that Jenny's Tale was first released as a digital download back in 2015. That is four years before he made the video for it, which was released just before Screech's Tale in 2019. And then, three years later, Violet's Tale was released in 2022. So it was not a pre-planned trilogy, but a story that evolved over seven years.
This is why we protect our Ren. He’s so very special in a world of sameness. He’s pure all around talent. ❤ thank you
I agree with you totally, this is such an amazing PIECE OF ART, it’s way more than just a song