Super Sized my Shop Vac and Put a Cyclone Inside
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- Опубликовано: 5 июн 2021
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▶️ Design inspiration for this build comes from a video by Cosmas Bauer: • Building a small Dust ...
Probably the best feature of the plastic water tank is thick walled so it won't collapse when using it for this. It's also a large diameter - 23 inches - and that means that even when it's cut short like this, it still holds a lot. That collection capacity is around 20 gallons or 80 liters, which is more than one of those big garbage cans full.
Like I said, the Craftsman shop vac I used to power this is more than 30 years old. I bought it new and have been using it nearly every day since. It has tons of suction and can easily compensate for the efficiency loss when adding a cyclone separator.
The cyclone is a Thein baffle design and this works best when you have the large diameter. The obvious advantage is that it can be very short in height, so the entire unit can be very compact. That was a key point for my small shop, since I don't have the space for a full size dust collector.
I want this mobile to easily roll where needed in the shop and it will primary be used for dust creating operations, like sanding and CNC work. I won't be using this for major dust collection (table saw, planer, etc.) since I already have effective solutions in place for those. I also won't use it for general shop cleaning. That's what a broom and dust pan are for.
I wanted this to last and be ruggedly built without overbuilding it, and I guess having it fall off my workbench tested that. I also wanted it lightweight, compact and easy to move and use, and I think I managed to do that.
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This really sucks!! But that's a good thing :)
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▶️ Design inspiration for this build comes from a video by Cosmas Bauer: ruclips.net/video/kF0zPiCarq4/видео.html
Probably the best feature of the plastic water tank is thick walled so it won't collapse when using it for this. It's also a large diameter - 23 inches - and that means that even when it's cut short like this, it still holds a lot. That collection capacity is around 20 gallons or 80 liters, which is more than one of those big garbage cans full.
Like I said, the Craftsman shop vac I used to power this is more than 30 years old. I bought it new and have been using it nearly every day since. It has tons of suction and can easily compensate for the efficiency loss when adding a cyclone separator.
The cyclone is a Thein baffle design and this works best when you have the large diameter. The obvious advantage is that it can be very short in height, so the entire unit can be very compact. That was a key point for my small shop, since I don't have the space for a full size dust collector.
I want this mobile to easily roll where needed in the shop and it will primary be used for dust creating operations, like sanding and CNC work. I won't be using this for major dust collection (table saw, planer, etc.) since I already have effective solutions in place for those. I also won't use it for general shop cleaning. That's what a broom and dust pan are for.
I wanted this to last and be ruggedly built without overbuilding it, and I guess having it fall off my workbench tested that. I also wanted it lightweight, compact and easy to move and use, and I think I managed to do that.
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Great build, John. It's fascinating to me how creative you are with what you have on hand. We buy too much new stuff and for the most part, unnecessarily. I've learned from an early age that we need to use - and reuse - the resources that we already have. Granted, I was dirt poor, but regardless, it's important to also reduce waste.
Having watched some of this process on your Scrap Bin channel made this more interesting to view. Thanks for both.
I learned a lot just watching your technique. Thanks-for posting
You've obviously earned an extremely high skill in woodworking throughout your career, but I'm often struck by what a master of videography you've become. It has been a real pleasure watching your content over the years!
the workshop screams your experience! with all the self solved problems and self-made tools you have, I love it! awesome!
Self solved problems for self found problems that only you see!
@@gatekeeper84 obviously, i dont detect the problems I didn't see, yet it doesn't mean that are not any more problems or solutions. what do you mean? i don't understand
@@ashkanr4796 he means when you working for someone doing a good job Fixing small detail a customer would not normally see or notice but you still want them to have a good job same for your own House.
Or it may be a problem to you but not others hence why you solving what only you see
The lift/retention mechanism is sublime. I am having to watch this half a dozen times just to make sure I understand it well enough to replicate. Good show.
2:43 love that jigsaw hole cutting trick. It usually scares the crap out of me with a kickback once or twice because or my impatience.
Nice build, the red on white looks pretty slick too
Pretty slick ehhh DAMN SEXY is more like it!
Who wants to bet John is adding a clever wheel locking mechanism right now?
Oh man, I cringed when that thing rolled off the table!
You cringed, but I lurched... and bumped my hip against the table saw trying to race over and catch it. Like I'm The Flash, already :)
Great build! Thanks for sharing yet another ingenious collection of techniques to address all the little (and big) challenges that make up a project!
I really liked the way you mounted the trimmer for cutting the collection bucket to height. I like the colour scheme too.
This build shows you are a true carpenter, "just throw some more wood at it". Both my mentor, and I, love your vids my man.
Tons of innovation and brilliant engineering in this project. The easily removable collection bucket alone is a huge improvement from what’s commercially available. Seriously manufacture should be copying you.
I am very impressed. I wasn't sure everything you were talking about but it was very interesting and impressive
Well done John
Brilliant!
Now that is what I call a good "Red2D2"... Will be great in the SuckWars... ;) :)
Always amazed by your creations!
Thanks for sharing those tips and the make!
I appreciate the work you put into filming these videos. Finding good angles is a tedious process.
I’ve really enjoyed watching the progress on this one. Great job sir!
You are a true craftsman! Your thought process is inspiring.
Thanks for this fantastic guidance video !
Impressive build. Thanks!
Loved following this project along on the other channel too.
fantastic build. Love it.
as usual bunch of very good ideas and hacks.
I also want to make the cyclone at some point, but I will buy the transparent acrylic for at least some part of the drum, which I'll bend to the circular shape from the rectangular acrylic sheet.
or maybe I'll find a transparent "drum" or something.
the idea behind a transparent cyclone drum is obviously to watch it and use it as anti depressant. I think there is nothing more calming than watching the dust whirl on the walls of your cyclone system.
Simply superb!
damn that was a boss move cutting that cylinder on the table saw!
Rdavidr does that with drum shells too. Works pretty slick. It's a channel worth checking out.
Good one!!
Awesome!!!
7:52 you seemed really proud
Muito bom
A ideia e a execução!!!
Amazing!
That looks great.
John, So glad you decided to go with a Thien Baffle and to record you building it!! I’m sure many will be making theirs now that you have shown them your way of doing it. Hopefully without dropping it off the table (surprised we didn’t hear your yelling and cursing, maybe he edited it out- haha). Nice work and again great videography!
Ficou muito bom. Fez até o teste de resistência a queda, hahaha. Parabéns!
Real nice build my friend!
The rapid screw sequence at 6:35 made me laugh. Awesome!
Nice!
Great job John.👍👍
Man I love these videos!
Red Devil Sucker! Great machine, really good video John, thumbs up.
That sucks John. Nice work
That’s pretty cool well done
Great job as always.
I have GOT to find the video for that circle cutting router jig! BRILLIANT!
John has a video for it.
ruclips.net/video/E702349f1YE/видео.html
This guy comes up with some of the best solutions to his problems.
An amazing finished product. This makes me thing that each vacuum manufacturer (or third party) COULD MAKE a cyclone separator that uses existing attachment methods to attach to the bucket below and the head above it. Then just a plug for the OLD inlet and DONE...with no more footprint like with a Dust Deputy and its bucket.
Brilliant
Nice job John,
I've never seen a 4 slot Thein - nicely done.
Nicely done, John! 😃
Seems to work great!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
It's too perfect. Looks machine made. LOL. Nice build. This might be the affordable solution that I need for the new blade duplicator.
It's the paint that covers everything with factory freshness :)
Congratulations, you're The Master.
always impress me
It looks like R2-D2's cousin! Nice project!
I like your production on these vidz
Have you made a video about you? your experience history, and why you make all your tools? thanks really enjoy your work.
I really like how you edited this. How much time does it take to record/edit your videos vs how long the project would take without it? I appreciate you doing it.
Generally 100% more time to make it a video.
You should build in some electronic sensors to let you know when the dust is at a level that needs to be emptied...LOL!!! Great job!!! But I would never do it...I think you are genius and have waaaaaaaay too much free time...
I love watching you invent. The style of video is big brain man. Keep going! Mosquito Coast! Lol
j aime beaucoup tes projets super
Nice R2 unit
When John starts a project, you need to go out and buy stock in construction adhesive!
Child of the Daleks.
Trabalho fantástico 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
I don't recall ever seeing anyone make a plunge cut with a jigsaw. I had read about them, just never saw one being made.
I used to, long ago. It's a bit hard on the blade, as in easy to snap or bend. now I take the time to make a small pilot hole
Maybe add water bubble chamber on the air outlet (catching real fine dust that DO ge through the filters) and an air bag to prevent the outlet air to create a jet that catches dust in the room to fly around
How ShopVac could have saved themselves from bankruptcy...true innovation and brilliant! How long until we see a unit like this in orange and selling for $200 at the depot?
Okay, you using a hole saw on an angle on that drum is nothing short of freaking wizardry. Can you explain how you did that cleanly, because that's hand's down one of the hardest things I think you did in this video (short of the design work).
I've cut holes in plastic before with a hole saw and it was the worst. I couldn't get the saw to stay centered cleanly and it would dance around until I pretty much held it in place with my hand (sort of dangerous).
Looks like one of the robots from Star Wars. :-)
Up cycling at it's finest, and it works well .
8:28 I never saw anybody with a 6d automatic fire! You better watch out the loonies will ban that automatic weapon! Great build as usual.
ADORABLE!!! But in a super manly way, of course. 😉
Thanks Bonnie :)
I wonder if a baffle that prevented a straight line path from inlet to filter might encourage more dust to fall before making its way to the filter.
My grandfather painted everything red. Every tool he owned was red. He said I can tell if someone steals my tools lol
당신은 천재입니다.
Help me, Obi-Wan, you're my only hope! 🤖
ha i looked at the thumbnail and thought R2 D2
@@peladinho769 R5-D4. The R5 units were newer models than the R2s, but unfortunately the manufacturer employed so many cost cutting measures that they ended up bein inferior to the R2 models.
I loved the "drop test" John do you test all your tools that way ?
I don't know why the thein baffle only has a recess. You could force more dust downwards by putting the removed slot at an attack angle to the direction of cyclone eg ---\\___ so it reflects debris down & leaves cleaner air above to be sucked out.
Loved it when R2 D2 fell over !!
Got a good laugh out of that awkward drill press operation for the long slots. All for the best camera shot.
Very nice. I never thought to use silicone sealant as an actual glue, especially on plastic. Was silicone all you used to glue the wooden inlet to the plastic tub, or was there some additional mechanical fixturing going on there?
I'm just here to watch John Heisz do things with a table saw that I will never be man enough to do.
yes. loved the cuts while screwing! watching underdunn/aging wheels lately?
I've been editing video this way for many years.
@@JohnHeisz imitation is the sincerest form of flattery... at least you recognize robert :-)
Reminds me of an Astro droid!
What was the idea behind changing the baffle design so it went all the way around instead of Bill Pentz's design of 270 degrees?
Have you ever made a jig to use your band-saw for circles? 2:35 I have not, but it seems odd to see you 'free-hand' that cut when you've shown high precision in your other cuts. For a project like this one, the extra precision gained from using a jig would probably provide no practical benefit.... but if you were making a large, round table -- for a dining room, for example -- you'd want the circular cut to be very precise, but probably with more "oomph" than a spiral-cut bit provides.
cool
Lolol the amount of plywood u used , you could bought few made dust collector systems considering plywood is price of a gold right now and time u spent ! But it was enjoyable to watch for sure!
it was all scrap he had laying around.
John building a star wars droid.
First thought as well. These are not the droids you are looking for. It is vacuum rated, so astomech precursor?
Güzel
Do you have.a video / guide for your circle jig? That looks quite handy.Thanks!
Never mind, I found it!
2:32 Remind us again why you got the CNC? Clearly you don't need one.
I don't love the red.... But great video John!
It beats green :)
I feel like that was a ryobi joke. Lol
@@flyingmunk8956 more like a Matthias joke.
I have no idea how this works or what he has done here but I want to build it
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Do you use the dewalt atomic impact drill?
Had the most hilarious argument with a friend how by restricting the flow of air on a vacuum (Holding you hand over the nozzle) strains the motor. No dude, it's the opposite. Notice that the motor speeds up? How do these people make it this far in life?
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Before the paint, it looked like R2D2 had gone to the dark side.