NTools NVE 1.3 v Chinese Gti Pro Lite 1.3, Cheap Clear Coat Spray Guns
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- Опубликовано: 9 мар 2024
- My ramblings on the NTools NVE and the Chinese Gti Pro Lite, both in 1.3 .Thanks for watching everyone. It really is appreciated 👍
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THANKS PETE,SOUNDS EXCITING,WHENEVER YOU START MODIFYING YOUR GUNS LET US KNOW
I have that pro lite clone and it is an absolute water hose wide open!!! Definitely need to turn it down maybe 3 turns to feel it out if you’re getting used to it but can definitely spray a nice finish once you’ve dialed it in to your liking
Hi buddy, yeah they certainly do pump it out, they are rather crude compared to the original, I'm on my last one of 3 as they eventually start leaking from most orifices, there are better out there for the money, thanks mate, appreciate the comments 👍
It is much better than before, it breaks down the particles of the material better, whereas the fake gti, it forces more output, we see this in the sound it emits.
I have the Quaco Pro Lite I got off Amazon, I bought the TE10 variant, I own both the TE10 and TE20 Devilbiss pro lites, My Quaco seems to like to be wide open at 26psi and lays out stunning with the clear. I like the way it sprays metalics but the real deal Devilbiss is just easier in my oppinion. Though I payed $40 for the Quaco to my door and honestly for the money it is so darn close to the Devilbiss I am super suprised by it. Thank you for the videos. I am going to try the NVE next just for fun though.
Hi Buddy, It sounds like you have been lucky with yours, the NVE is coming down in price now so not too much to take a chance with, it'll be interesting to hear what you think when you get it.
Good to hear you're enjoying the videos, I genuinely enjoy making them, thanks, mate, for watching and taking the time to comment, much appreciated 👍
Great vid Pete. I really look forward to these cheap gun reviews. I was going to pop on the NVE but I got the 4000B instead and i gotta say its become my favorite. Its up there with my Bellaria and FLG5. Loads better than my r500's. They're ok but not the best for the money. I have an LPH400 and a W400 WBX but I like the pattern on my Bellaria and the FLG5 better. Ive been using the 4000B more and more. Love the build quality and spray pattern. It also feels real good spraying. I like a big pattern especially on car panels. The atomization is really good I think. I dare to say its better than my Bellaria. I like to close the fan 3/4 of a turn just as the pressure starts to go up on the guage. The fan is still huge but it just cleans up the pattern and I think it helps atomize finer because its increasing the velocity at the nozzle just a bit more. I usually spray thin cheap clear I actualy get good results spraying lower pressures. Ive been spraying at 24-26psi with good results. If I go much higher than 29-30 its over atomizing a bit. But that just with my thin material. It sprays metallics very well. The big fan helps especially on drop coats and with blending👍
Hi Marc, the NVE doesn't put out as much as the Ntools 4000B, so it's a slower experience, which some will prefer.
As you will know, spraying lower viscosity materials will normally mean you want/need less pressure as the fan can start to split.
I will have to do a back to back with the NVE & 4000B, I'm pretty sure they are as good as each other in performance with the NVE a little slower, doing these back to back is definitely the best way of noticing the differences.
Thanks mate, many people read these comments, so it's good to get a comprehensive report from someone other than me, I think it helps give a broader opinion, appreciate it, cheers 👍
a lot of people are spraying their own car in their home shed and don't want to pay $1000 for a gun nor do they need to as cheaper Chinese gun are doing the job making copies, I've watched your videos and other reviews so I've purchased an NVE and a R500 to do mine, I've been painting cars all my life started at 14 and I'm now 63 would have painted over 150+ cars, I have about 15 guns and 5 or 6 I use for parts, I now make guitars which ill make 50 a year and use anything from nitro, acrylic, and 2k paints i use a lot of pearls, flake, and candies, all my guns are worn out so it was time to buy a couple of new 1s as well as a touch up gun, I've never use Ali express so that wilI be interesting on its own, i can paint a car with any gun and get Good results really, I'm a iwata fan and was why I went for the R500 so I will see 1st hand if their any good or crap the NVE Cost me $132AUD and the R500 was $55AUD both free 10 day postage which China to Australia usually a 4-6 weeks I still need to get some pps cups which I can't see any reasonably priced air flow is irrelevant to me as I have 3.5hp 17cfm compressor it can keep up with any gun
Hi Buddy, Of course you are right, I often say in my videos that someone will want a cheaper gun for whatever reason , often because they just have one project to do, and that's it.
I do try and bear in mind the prices of these things. After all, I do buy my own stuff, so know what it costs 😏
I think you will be more than happy with your new guns. Keep us posted as it'll be interesting to hear what you think, cheers, mate 👍
Hi Pete! Great technical and useful comparison as always! Is it in your future plans to test the HVLP Auarita H-827 with 1.3mm or 1.4mm tip for base & clear coat? Thanks for your kindness! 🤗
Hi Massimo, I don't think it is on my list. There are many, many guns in that cheaper category, a lot of which I have so can't justify another, one day maybe but no current plans to, cheers mate 👍
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Nice review, been looking for on on the DV1 "Clone". Only one question you didn't say, is there any product savings with the NVE or is it basically the same as the pro lite clone?
Hi buddy, the NVE has quite a different pattern, so you can use more materials if you're not careful, but generally, there's little to choose between the two
HI PETE,GOOD VIDEO, I WAS ABOUT TO PURCHASE THE NVE,AND THE 4000B,BUT,I GOT THE YT160 WITH 4 ADDITIONAL NEEDLES TIP AND CAP FOR $110 U.S. DOLLARS, NO BRAINER KINDA HARD TO BEAT AND YOU CAN DO AN ENTIRE JOB,also have A610,and caps are switchable, but the porphis 717,very tempting ❤
Hi Lesli, I do think the NVE and the 4000B give better results than the YT160, R500, and A610 type of gun, not miles ahead but a little .
The Porphis PRD series are a completely different product both in quality and performance compared to the cheaper Chinese guns. They are, imo a quality made item.
Of course, they are more expensive, but it certainly justified as far as I can see
MY NEXT PURCHASE OF SPRAY GUNS WILL BE PORPHIS
THANKS FOR YOUR HONESTY
You're welcome, buddy. I've just ordered another Porphis, the PRD 515, with a 510 conversion set.
The 510 is a 1.0 setup, so a midi gun. The 515 is a 1.3 MP gun. It'll be interesting to see what it's like. Obviously, I'll share it with everyone anyway once I've given it some use, cheers mate 👍
I really love watching your videos. Sory not related to the gun but which tack cloth did you use I m a learner from leeds
Hi Mate, Good to hear you like the videos 😄, I use Starchem tack clothes, started using them about 4 years ago, and found them excellent and not expensive, I buy them in boxes of 50 but I think you can get them in 10s as well, here's where I get mine from, normally I add it to an order to cover the postage.
www.spraygunsdirect.co.uk/product/starchem-tack-cloths-with-dispenser-box-pack-of-50/
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Thank you ever so much for a swift response All the best with your work and keep it up .
@edencars9064 You're welcome, buddy . Thanks for watching 👍
Da hora hein
Hey Pete how are you doing mate, I hate to say this but I'm really liking my N-Tools 5000 RP (to be honest I doubt there's much difference with their 4000B that you have although ive not seen the 4000B up close). I was really expecting it to be a throw away gun but I'm happy I got it, albeit a bit of a ripoff price here in Aus, but that's how it is , I also forgot that I got N-Tools SRI pro lite mini gun about 2 years ago , I'll have to dig it out and have another look at it, but to finish off I'm liking the results with the 5000 RP perhaps if I had the usual home garage compressor things wouldn't be as positive but I did get an 8 HP compressor to keep up with the Iwata LS 400 ..nope still haven't got the WS400 which I wanted so much , I think the split tip issue sort of made it go by the way side a bit, anyway enjoying your video's immensely keep em coming !!!
Hi Roger, I suspect the 4000B and 5000B are very similar. It tends to be the way with a lot of these Chinese guns .
The compressor issue is a good one as these and the 4000B I have use around 11cfm at 2bar, but, as I mentioned in this video, the likes of the R500 uses something very similar because to get satisfactory results on clear coats you need around 2.5 bar and at that pressure they are up around that figure anyway so no real savings, cheers mate, shame you haven't got that WS400 yet, I think you would enjoy it, 👍
@@peteshobbies5383 now to test the longevity I’m sure that’s where the difference will be between the real deal and these copies
@watchthisspacecarchannel6523 Yes, certainly the case with the copy Gti Pro Lite, seal behind the baffle being the main problem, means you really have to do the tip up tight to seal it, cheers mate 👍
Hello Pete. Can you do a video on the new ANI Compact HPS?
Hi Mate, I haven't got one. I'm not sure if I will. It's an R160 with a 1.3 or 1.4 tip set as far as I know, so it's not much different from the 1.2 HPS
Hi Pete, those guns look a bit familiar mate🤔 I have to agree with every thing you said the as I remember when you sent these guns to me and I came to a similar conclusion that the NVE is the better gun, the GTI had a small fan and just didn't feel nice to use it wasn't a very well made gun but the NVE was nice to use, it's no DV1 but is on a par with the R500 maybe a bit better I can't quite remember 🤷♂😁
How are you getting on with the Fuji Pete, don't worry I'm not asking for it back mate you take as long as you need I'm just looking forward to seeing you use it👌
Cheers Pete👍
Hi Mate, I would put the NVE ahead of the R500 type guns, it's marginal but I think it's a better all rounder, plus it's using about the same amount of air when you take into account of the pressure difference needed.
You Fuji is all safe and well mate, locked away in my 5mm thick steel storage container, I have a few more things to try with it, and then I'll send it back.
It's performing well , I'm finding the 1.2 gives a better finish, which often happens with some guns, I'll try the 1.3 with the fluid turned in for clear to see if it replicates the 1.2
Build is good, although the little baffle really annoys me when cleaning as it seems to stick in the gun and won't just drop out 🤣, it's the only negative really though and it is minor but you did ask 😉 😀
Thanks John, hope your Sunday is going OK 👍
Yeah I couldn't remember which one I thought was the better gun but I thought the NVE was possibly the better of the 2.
Ah no wonder I couldn't find my Fuji in your workshop when I was there late one night but if you notice a couple of guns are missing it's probably me🥸😂
I think the baffle fitment problem is probably me as like a numpty I fitted it wrong when I first had it and put the pin in the other hole and it wouldn't come out, you may have noticed the marks around the edge of the gun where the cap fits that was me trying to get the baffle out, I keep meaning to look at it to see where it's catching as there must be a burr on the edge somewhere🤦♂🤠🙄my other gun is fine mate I just remove the tip then turn the gun over and the baffle drops out so blame the user not the gun🥺😇😂oh and keep the gun as long as you need it mate if you need another month or so with it don't worry buddy👌👍
Cheers Pete👍
@JohnWD40TC02 That makes sense, I can see where the marks are, but I just presumed a spanner had caught it in the past, I'll have a look to see what holding it up there.
Cheers buddy 👍
I think you have a bench grinder Pete so feel free to attack any burrs you find with that mate, if that doesn't work then try an angle grinder💪😦😂👍
@JohnWD40TC02 Sounds extreme mate, but needs must, I guess 😉 😜
First time I tried the MVE the air pressure fine adjustment was on the air inlet ? I need to spend more time with that gun ?
Hi mate, yes, the original Devilbiss DV1 has it on the air inlet. So they have just copied the styling, Walcom have started to do that now as well, cheers buddy 👍
How does the nve stack up against the f150/160?
I would still take the ANI over the NVE, but the ANI is now getting on for twice as much money
@peteshobbies5383 I have the ani already I am looking for a second Gunn, not sure what to do exactly, use the ani for clear and get a base primer gun or donthe opposite and use the ani for base and primer and buy a clear gun , any suggestions ?
@honcho714 The Ntools 4000B is a good clear gun and cheap, uses a bit more air through
@peteshobbies5383 thanks . I appreciate the response and your videos.
You're welcome, buddy 👍
Bonjour cher ami,
Pour parler du faux dv1 , le gros probleme réside dans ses joints qui gonfle au diluant , j'en possede deux , un.que jutilise pour la base eau, aucun souci de joint , et l'autre pour le vernis et malgres un nettoyage et souffflage soigneux , les joints gonflent et l'utilisation devient désagréable.
Salut mon pote, je n'ai pas eu de problèmes avec le faux DV1, mais toi et d'autres me dites la même chose, je suppose que j'ai juste eu de la chance
Hi mate, I haven't had problems with the fake DV1, but you and others are telling me the same, I guess I have just been lucky
The nve spraygun costs 130 if you order from Germany 😢
Hi buddy, So if you're in Germany it will cost €130 Euros ?
@@peteshobbies5383 sadly yes...
Everything you said was basically spot on. But ive commented on ur past videos about this issue. The NVE has a trigger issue over time, (about 10 times of use)i believe the seal in it isnt compatible with the gun wash i use at work so it expands the seal and gets stuck. U may be able to get away with hand cleaning ur gun but I use a gun wash machine at work cause i spray 2-3 jobs a day. Its my 2nd gun ive ordered that had the same problem im in the middle of returning it. The Pro Lite on the other hand, ive had for years and not a single issue has come up with everyday use.
Hi Jimmy, Thanks, mate. I guess as you say, it's using a gun washer that causes a problem.
I've not had a problem with my NVE but have with all 3 of my clone Pro Lites, the main culprit is the white sealing ring behind the baffle, it lets go on the original as well but they aren't interchangeable,
I do hand wash my guns because I don't like gun wash machines, especially with digital guns like the Sata's so I prefer not too, although I have lent both of these to a mate that has a gun washer and he had no problems although it was probably only 8 to 10 washes he did.
Cheers, buddy, I appreciate it 👍
@@peteshobbies5383 the seal behind the baffle on the pro lite hasnt failed me yet even though it looks like paper..... i have 6 pro lite clones and each i use it for a specific application. Clear, SS, sealer and 3 for water base. I really like the NVE gun, sprays much finer the the pro lite but ive been unlucky i guess. I read some reviews online and a coworker all had this same issue