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I have a request for your future videos. I am planning to upgrade to M4 14 inch and my main priority will be battery life because i am always on the go (rarely use demanding tasks). Can you please do a real world battery life comparison between the base M4, and the binned M4 pro, and the full M4 pro? Depending on this real world battery i will do my purchase. If there is no significant hit on battery life i will go with the higher models but if battery takes a hit i will keep the base one.
Same, 16 M1 Max 64GB 4TB OS13.7.1… Maybe I’ll get an M6 Max if they actually improve upon this first generation M4 AI… Maybe dual layer OLED display would also convince me.
I could not agree with you more but there’s much more here to unpack. In my opinion. I have an M1 MacBook Pro Max 16 inch with 64 GB memory and one terabyte got it last year for 2299 new insane deal. I have tried the other ones. Yes, they’re a little faster, but my gosh, I do some pretty heavy stuff and it works great. This is just all hype and I totally get it. I mean, if you can afford buying a new one all the time I am not 😢a class warrior I’m not gonna tell you what to do. there was somebody in a chat the other day that said that they just loved getting the new machine and opening the box and hey if you can do that, that’s totally awesome. It’s little weird to me, but I get it and that’s what this all plays into.I just wish sometimes that people would think about honing their craft and let the vessel which is the computer like do the work and it’ll do fine on your craft don’t worry so much about how fast your memory is or whatever. Become a craft whatever that’s it.
I have an M1 16/1TB MBA, absolutely no desire to upgrade. It’s the best laptop I’ve ever owned. Super snappy, battery lasts all day and then some. No idea what I’d do with the extra power of an M4.
Only thing that annoys me is storage and it still costing stupidly high 1TB should be the minimum for a "pro laptop" (put 2TB also on the Max while we're at it)
@@Artiztik15 I don't know about you but for some workloads files have to be on device or on a quick External SSD, I do music production and mixing and my libraries and sounds have to be on device/on a decently fast external SSD, still thought it seems alright
Hey guys, you're known for your in-depth comparison videos. *This might be the first generation which many M1 owners will consider upgrading to.* Would you mind doing a "M1Max vs M4Pro" (assuming GPU power now at least matched) as well as a "M4Pro/48GB vs M4Max/36GB" (memory size vs GPU-power) video? I have the 16" M1Max 24C with 32GB and wouldn't mind more power in Resolve, Blender and DrawThings, next to the other benefits. Thanks a lot :)
Speaking about DrawThings: This would be a perfect (free) app to compare Stable Diffusion performance between Apple devices (it also runs on iPadOS/iOS). Just stick with the same render size (like 1000x1000px) and Sampler. It should scale nicely and runs CoreML based. Thanks!
totally in the same boat, would love to see a comparison from M1 Pro and M1 Max. I am debating upgrading to this generation. my m1 pro is starting to show its age which is sad based on the spec I have.
The most important announcement today was that M2 and M3 MacBook Airs would now all have a minimum RAM memory of 16 Gb. High street shops in the UK only ever sell base models and so it means that now for the first time it will be possible to purchase 16 Gb MacBook Airs from these shops.
@@maxweinbach3996I work as an embedded software engineer and none of the apps that I use for embedded software development are available for the Mac. I have never seen a Mac in any company where I have worked. I was told by a civil engineer that there are similarly no civil engineering apps for a Mac. Most of my work PCs have 16 Gb of RAM and cost around $999. Cutting the cost of Macs with 16 Gb of RAM to a more reasonable $999 will encourage developers to port these apps to the Mac and so I will see more Macs at work in future.
If think it will be the better one, 16gb is okay for basic people, but 24gb is good for intermediate users who use it for hard work with CAD or other softwares and for people who likes to play games. if MB air came with 24gb and 512gb for 1499USD it could be the better choice
Please create a video about the upcoming M4 Macbook Air. I know you had already created one around 2 months ago, but as the current base M3 Macbook Air has been upgraded from 8GB to 16GB of ram, another video on this topic alongside answering the million dollar question of whether you should buy the M3 MacBook Air now (my university starts from Jan 2025 onwards and i don't have a good laptop with me) or wait until March for the M4 version. Thanks once again!
The CPU cores difference appear NOT to justify the M4 Max over the M4 Pro. Yes it has double the GPU cores, but otherwise I say PASS on the M4 Max chip.
@@hasansahin7965 I agree with you. Not enough CPU Performance difference to justify the increased cost price between the M4 Pro and M4 Max Mac Models. I will likely go with either the M4 Pro model of the Mac mini or the M4 Pro MacBook Pro model. I was so hoping to get a Mac Studio M4 Max model, but now I do not think it is worth the wait or the price.
@@rwoeger Same here, after i saw the 64gb Unified memory on m4 Pro Mac Mini, i've decided to skip the M4 Mac Studio. It will be very powerful future-proof device.
Yeah that's curious, last year the M3 Pro got nerfed hard, now it's actually much closer to the M4 Max again. And the M4 Pro with 48GB Ram is **cheaper** than the M4 Max with 36GB Ram, even when adding the 1TB SSD!
@@SkaratakThat is exactly what many predicted last year and why the M3Pro chips were not the one to get last year. Proves that M3 was the stop gap measure by Apple to get to the smaller chip size, and the M3Pro was the sacrifice to do this quickly.
Sigh, once again, you missed it. The M4 Max has 35% more memory bandwidth, which is HUGE for LLMs and graphics-heavy workloads. The 546GB/s memory bandwidth is actually a VERY attractive upgrade; to me, it's worth the price right there. But the nanotexture display is also potentially a big deal. Faster external SSDs with the TB5 port is another big deal. You also don't realize, apparently, that the clock-speed bump alone (to 4.41GHz for the CPUs, 1.68GHz for the GPUs) makes the Max worth it for those who need Max performance. No, the Max is NOT the most underwhelming among the chips...not at all.
I see your point ,I think he's just going off of core counts on the chip alone. At least the M4 Max isn't getting shafted like Apple did for the M3 Pro chip last year.
I have a question and would be very grateful if you could help me. I'm currently thinking about buying the new MacBook Pro M4 chip. There are two configurations in play. 1) M4 Pro 14Core CPU, 20 Core GPU and 48 GB RAM. 2) M4 Max with 14-core CPU, 32-core GPU and 36 GB RAM. I'm not a video editor or anything like that. Would rather prioritize it for training AI and using LLMs. The 2nd option is approx. 400 euros more expensive. What do you say? Is the second option with less RAM but more cores much better in LLM and training AI code in Python ? THANK YOU
I have the double-binned M2 Pro in a 14" MBP. It's a great machine. I'm very excited to see what your M4 Pro and Max results show. Also, I can't wait to see Cyberpuck 2077 running native on Mac.
Why would you want an OLED over the current mini LED? I legit don’t understand why people think the degradation and burn in is worth it for the barely noticeable increase of contrast- on a display with a lot of static elements.
They got rid of 96gb ram option. Was prepared to pay for that model of mbp cause I need more than 64gb, but not quite 128gb, but now have to shell out 600 more bucks for 128gb. Background, my windows machine with sample libraries takes 48 gigs of ram, but I plan to expand which means more ram is needed and logic needs much more ram than reaper so that’s at least 64 right there. Switching from windows to Mac for common tasks and music production while switching from windows to arch+cinnamon desktop for gaming mostly. Recall feature is the way a lifetime windows user (dabbling in mid 2000s and 2010s iMacs in academia) switches to Mac. I just want something that works dang it. You can’t even get 64 gb in a mbp without the m4 max.
Should I buy Mac mini or MacBook Pro both m4 pro 24/36gb ram 1tb ssd better cores chip? If I want to use it primarily as a desktop machine and keep it for 5+ years?
I just put my upgrade in. I traded in my base M1 MacBook Pro for the new M4 Pro MacBook Pro and upped the memory to 48G - I passed on the Max. I went for the best bang for my buck. You confirmed what I suspected about the Max chip. Thanks.
@ The one advice that is always given is if you upgrade the only thing you need is memory. I have been using only 24G for the past 4 years and some of the tasks are memory intensive and having the headroom is a huge benefit. I can always add more external storage but never more ram.
@@chrisbogart687 yeah I agree I just think the 24gb is good since its a step up from the base 16gb. I’ve had 16gb the past four years and never had a problem with mine so figure you just do more ram heavy work
I was hopping for a nicer M4 max update. Like you I believe the updates to the M4 and M4 pro family were very good, and the M4 max update very underwhelming.
Hey guys, I wonder would you choose m4 Pro Mac Mini with 14c/20g or the base model of MacBook Pro m4 pro. I'm more into Mac Mini but wondering ur answers too.
Often asking myself,what is the same price,what is free,what is this and that?Our world is really messed up.I believe in my humble opinion that everything is priceless.There is no value in our world,the only real value is LOVE and empathy for others.Thank you guys for your hard work,peace.😊
Wow, very impressed with the M4 Pro, which is a massive upgrade in terms of a 14 core CPU (10P+4E cores) and 272GB/sec memory bandwidth. The M3 Pro CPU was a 12 core (6P+6E) and the memory bandwidth was reduced to 150GB/sec whereas the M1 Pro and M2 Pro memory bandwidth was 200GB/sec.
you guys are the best everything i need to know and more i simply go on to your channel and look for the right video and get a detailed explanation a mean it all my devices i first watched you guys Keep Up The Good Work!!!
I have an M1 Max and am considering upgrading but I saw your video on the M5 chip leaks which is also enticing. Would you upgrade from M1 Max to M4 Max or wait for the M5 Max?
I was really hoping to see at least 18 cores in the Max chip. Sad. You are right, the start of the show is the M4 Pro. Now it will be really enough for many people out there, even for fancy stuff.s
Actually, even if you have a decent spec M1 Pro/Max I can’t really see any reason to upgrade unless you are a professional and urgently need those extra minutes. I suspect many M series owners won’t upgrade until Apple releases a completely new design.
I'll upgrade if the M4s can do one thing - realtime playback without stuttering of a FCP timeline of mixed 4k/6k h.265 HEVC footage - 9 streams with no hiccups. :-) I may be waiting for the M4 Mac Studio. If even that can pull it off.
Thanks for the first review!! Do you think the MacBook m4 pro chip with 14 cpu/20 gpu with 48 gb of ram is worth getting over an m3 max chip with 14/30 & 36 ram for video editing? The m3 max chips seems to heat up a little bit. Thank you! ☺️🙏🏼
Take my money now … it will be massive upgrade for me coming from mid 2014 15” MacBook Pro i7 2.8ghz 16gb ram and 1TB SSD when I’ve paid fortune back in the day 🔥
M4 Max 128GB will become the go to for any LLM fine-tuning work. I hoped that Apple would give 256GB option. Even if it was over 10,000 dollars, it would have saved tens of thousands.
the only good reason to get M4Max is people that want to refine models on their laptop. It won't be as fast as H100, but it also doesn't cost 20K. A single RTX 4090 is still 2000.00 for 24G. To match M4Max 128G you'd spend a lot more to match the memory. Quantizing the model is fine for runtime inference, but not for training.
Apple’s chip situation is convoluted and confusing now more than ever. Why not: A18: iPhone 16, 16 Plus (and new base iPad and rumored iPhone SE) A18 Pro: iPhone 16 Pro, Pro Max and iPad mini M4: iPad Air, Macbook Air, iMac, Mac mini M4 Pro: iPad Pro, Macbook Pro, iMac, Mac mini M4 Max: Macbook Pro, Mac studio (and a new iMac Pro and Mac Pro) M4 Ultra: Mac studio, iMac Pro, Mac Pro
I think it’s hilarious that they are still comparing their new MacBooks with intel based MacBooks 😂 there’s last intel MacBook was what like 5 years ago?
@@Johnny91832 I guess, idk I feel like it’s just an excuse to inflate the stats. I’d rather see the main comparison be between the existing Mac that it’s replacing
Really tempted to upgrade from my M2 Pro 16" But I feel ill wait for the redesign which hopefully comes with the M5 Chips, plus my M2 Pro doesn't feel at all sluggish still feels as fast as new. I'd imagine a lot of people who got the M1 Chip MacBooks feel the same, they absolutely killed it with the M Series Chips.
So THIS is why we have the notch.. to fit that fancy center stage webcam that I’ll never use! Finally the notch cutting into the otherwise clean menu bar, otherwise perfectly clean rectangular screen like every single other laptop that exists.. and certainly isn’t there for branding/marketing… is now justified!
I don't like the notch that's why I love my m2 macbook pro and also it has my favourite touch bar and as a student it's sufficient for me I never want to upgrade until I see a magic
Mac mini M4 Pro: 64GB RAM (unified memory) option is available, MacBook Pro M4 Pro: only 48GB RAM option is available. If you need more RAM you need to upgrade to MacBook Pro M4 Max.
LETS BE REAL... Every MAC should have a 500GB Storage minimum. 256gb is a joke 41GB for the OS plus another 4GB for "Apple intelligence that sucks" and another 5-6GB for worthless apps you can't remove, like Pages, News, and TV. What a joke Apple has become... STATIC COMPANY!
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Can you please make a M4 Max MacBook Pro vs M2 Ultra Mac Studio video?
I have a request for your future videos. I am planning to upgrade to M4 14 inch and my main priority will be battery life because i am always on the go (rarely use demanding tasks). Can you please do a real world battery life comparison between the base M4, and the binned M4 pro, and the full M4 pro? Depending on this real world battery i will do my purchase. If there is no significant hit on battery life i will go with the higher models but if battery takes a hit i will keep the base one.
Upgrading from a 2012 MacBook Pro is going to be life changing
Absolutely
it will be siiiick !!!!!
I would wait for m5
@@ziezdevries1548 might as well wait for M20 😂
ig m3 pro is gonna be still a better choice
Macs are value buys again. This looks like the best upgrade in the entire computing world since the M1.
They cooked with the M series chip and all of this is because of the 2021 M1 AIR
@@theblablareal Late 2020 MB Air M1
I have an M1 max 16 inch MacBook Pro, it has been the best computer I’ve ever owned will ride that thing out for another five years or more.
Same, 16 M1 Max 64GB 4TB OS13.7.1… Maybe I’ll get an M6 Max if they actually improve upon this first generation M4 AI… Maybe dual layer OLED display would also convince me.
@@chucky29949yeah i buy them every 5-10 years. My 2012 MBP still works (slow) I let my 8 yo practice typing on it.
I could not agree with you more but there’s much more here to unpack. In my opinion. I have an M1 MacBook Pro Max 16 inch with 64 GB memory and one terabyte got it last year for 2299 new insane deal. I have tried the other ones. Yes, they’re a little faster, but my gosh, I do some pretty heavy stuff and it works great. This is just all hype and I totally get it. I mean, if you can afford buying a new one all the time I am not 😢a class warrior I’m not gonna tell you what to do. there was somebody in a chat the other day that said that they just loved getting the new machine and opening the box and hey if you can do that, that’s totally awesome. It’s little weird to me, but I get it and that’s what this all plays into.I just wish sometimes that people would think about honing their craft and let the vessel which is the computer like do the work and it’ll do fine on your craft don’t worry so much about how fast your memory is or whatever. Become a craft whatever that’s it.
I have an M1 16/1TB MBA, absolutely no desire to upgrade. It’s the best laptop I’ve ever owned. Super snappy, battery lasts all day and then some.
No idea what I’d do with the extra power of an M4.
Yep, apple has destroyed the competition. Sorry intel.
And what about the airs with 16gb on base price
its the same price
@ashutoshg6866 is it like 114000 rs ?
16 GB Ram base for MacBook Air! I can finally buy one!!
@@ashutoshg6866 Only for the US market, the rest of the world we'll surely get a price increase, i am tired of this
Yes
Only thing that annoys me is storage and it still costing stupidly high 1TB should be the minimum for a "pro laptop" (put 2TB also on the Max while we're at it)
Just get Apple cloud storage…. Syncs across all devices for $1 month
@@Artiztik15 what? it's $10
@@Artiztik15 I don't know about you but for some workloads files have to be on device or on a quick External SSD, I do music production and mixing and my libraries and sounds have to be on device/on a decently fast external SSD, still thought it seems alright
Does it matter when Apple has effectively destroyed the competition?
Apple should not be allow to charge that much for storage...Nowadays you can get a Samsung 990 4TB for about 270$.
Rumor: M5 MacBooks will be announced in exactly 365 days from today. 😂😂
Curious to see a M3 Max vs M4 Max comparison test!
Aren’t they generally the same?
@@Laranikkilara no
@@Laranikkilara slightly faster. According to Apple, 1.2x.
@@adityach7 Well 1.2 would still mean 20%
We already know the single core in Geekbench for M4 Max. We don't know multicore but we can only guesstimate. Wait for the actual results.
Hey guys, you're known for your in-depth comparison videos. *This might be the first generation which many M1 owners will consider upgrading to.* Would you mind doing a "M1Max vs M4Pro" (assuming GPU power now at least matched) as well as a "M4Pro/48GB vs M4Max/36GB" (memory size vs GPU-power) video? I have the 16" M1Max 24C with 32GB and wouldn't mind more power in Resolve, Blender and DrawThings, next to the other benefits. Thanks a lot :)
Speaking about DrawThings: This would be a perfect (free) app to compare Stable Diffusion performance between Apple devices (it also runs on iPadOS/iOS). Just stick with the same render size (like 1000x1000px) and Sampler. It should scale nicely and runs CoreML based. Thanks!
Sure! I actually still have my M1 Max at home so I'll do a video!
@@MaxTechOfficial typing this from my maxed out m1 max 16" mbp. still works flawless vor everything video related...
Yeah right, the M1 Max is a beast. For the tasks that person mentioned, I can't imagine the gains would justify the cost to upgrade. @jimi272
totally in the same boat, would love to see a comparison from M1 Pro and M1 Max. I am debating upgrading to this generation. my m1 pro is starting to show its age which is sad based on the spec I have.
The most important announcement today was that M2 and M3 MacBook Airs would now all have a minimum RAM memory of 16 Gb. High street shops in the UK only ever sell base models and so it means that now for the first time it will be possible to purchase 16 Gb MacBook Airs from these shops.
Apple has destroyed the competition
@@maxweinbach3996I work as an embedded software engineer and none of the apps that I use for embedded software development are available for the Mac. I have never seen a Mac in any company where I have worked. I was told by a civil engineer that there are similarly no civil engineering apps for a Mac. Most of my work PCs have 16 Gb of RAM and cost around $999. Cutting the cost of Macs with 16 Gb of RAM to a more reasonable $999 will encourage developers to port these apps to the Mac and so I will see more Macs at work in future.
Got me at 24 gigs of ram 🎉
I believe thats tricky… they are doing that because Apple inteligence steals 8gb 🤫
If think it will be the better one, 16gb is okay for basic people, but 24gb is good for intermediate users who use it for hard work with CAD or other softwares and for people who likes to play games. if MB air came with 24gb and 512gb for 1499USD it could be the better choice
I’m mad I got the m3 pro last November 18gb now it’s 24 like bruh
@@thenotoriousjoey9956 M3 line up was a completely meme, you should have researched and waited longer to buy
Apple has destroyed the competition
in this generation the king is the m4 pro but the M4 max doesn't have a big improvement
Yeah they left some gap for Mac Studio with ultra chip, and m4 max (MacBook) is not most selling across other models,
Please create a video about the upcoming M4 Macbook Air. I know you had already created one around 2 months ago, but as the current base M3 Macbook Air has been upgraded from 8GB to 16GB of ram, another video on this topic alongside answering the million dollar question of whether you should buy the M3 MacBook Air now (my university starts from Jan 2025 onwards and i don't have a good laptop with me) or wait until March for the M4 version. Thanks once again!
Those M3 refurbished deals will be fun. I love my M3 Max and will hold it for like 10 years. This is insane
Ordered mine yesterday! Got the 14" M4 Max with 16CPU/40GPU and 64GB Memory. Can't wait for it to come in next Friday.
M1 PRO 32GB RAM - I am not upgrading. M1 is still fantastic.
Nor should you upgrade!
A monster of a machine! Do not upgrade, that machine will be legendary.
The CPU cores difference appear NOT to justify the M4 Max over the M4 Pro. Yes it has double the GPU cores, but otherwise I say PASS on the M4 Max chip.
One more PASS from me too,
I'll buy M4 pro Mac mini, bro.
@@hasansahin7965 I agree with you. Not enough CPU Performance difference to justify the increased cost price between the M4 Pro and M4 Max Mac Models. I will likely go with either the M4 Pro model of the Mac mini or the M4 Pro MacBook Pro model. I was so hoping to get a Mac Studio M4 Max model, but now I do not think it is worth the wait or the price.
@@rwoeger Same here, after i saw the 64gb Unified memory on m4 Pro Mac Mini, i've decided to skip the M4 Mac Studio. It will be very powerful future-proof device.
Yeah that's curious, last year the M3 Pro got nerfed hard, now it's actually much closer to the M4 Max again. And the M4 Pro with 48GB Ram is **cheaper** than the M4 Max with 36GB Ram, even when adding the 1TB SSD!
@@SkaratakThat is exactly what many predicted last year and why the M3Pro chips were not the one to get last year. Proves that M3 was the stop gap measure by Apple to get to the smaller chip size, and the M3Pro was the sacrifice to do this quickly.
5:11 Gigabits per second not bytes. Huge difference.
1 Gigabyte = 8 Gigabits
Sigh, once again, you missed it. The M4 Max has 35% more memory bandwidth, which is HUGE for LLMs and graphics-heavy workloads. The 546GB/s memory bandwidth is actually a VERY attractive upgrade; to me, it's worth the price right there. But the nanotexture display is also potentially a big deal. Faster external SSDs with the TB5 port is another big deal. You also don't realize, apparently, that the clock-speed bump alone (to 4.41GHz for the CPUs, 1.68GHz for the GPUs) makes the Max worth it for those who need Max performance. No, the Max is NOT the most underwhelming among the chips...not at all.
For those that need every bit of performance, any increase is a good thing.
I see your point ,I think he's just going off of core counts on the chip alone. At least the M4 Max isn't getting shafted like Apple did for the M3 Pro chip last year.
Hey Max, are you planning on doing a buying guide on MacBooks? I’d love to see more about what specs are worth/not worth paying more for. Thank you!
That 14” M4 Pro looks like it’ll be the best Mac since the M1 Air
I am excited for all those Macs you ordered!! Comparison time coming!
Can’t wait to watch the best comparison videos as usual
I’d love to see a comparison against the M1 Pro Max and the M4 Pro Max.
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120Gb/s is 120 Giga Bits per second, not bytes
I have a question and would be very grateful if you could help me. I'm currently thinking about buying the new MacBook Pro M4 chip. There are two configurations in play. 1) M4 Pro 14Core CPU, 20 Core GPU and 48 GB RAM. 2) M4 Max with 14-core CPU, 32-core GPU and 36 GB RAM. I'm not a video editor or anything like that. Would rather prioritize it for training AI and using LLMs. The 2nd option is approx. 400 euros more expensive. What do you say? Is the second option with less RAM but more cores much better in LLM and training AI code in Python ? THANK YOU
Pretty tempted to upgrade my 16” M1 Pro to a 14” M4 Pro. The battery life of the 14” seems really good now.
I haven’t even started watching this video but based on previous years I know I can’t buy without getting your 2cents
I have the double-binned M2 Pro in a 14" MBP. It's a great machine. I'm very excited to see what your M4 Pro and Max results show. Also, I can't wait to see Cyberpuck 2077 running native on Mac.
I got M3 Pro for $1499 2 months back. Did i make the right decision or should have gone for the M4 base model.
I dont need Pro chip, but am I wrong
No tandem OLED display no buy😁
True.
Upgraded from M1 Pro with 32GB and 2TB. Now I will have an M4 Max with 64GB, 16 core and 2TB (given the Thunderbolt 5)
I think even with the M1 Pro you are fine. We should upgrade when apple gives us a new OLED screen for the Macs.
Why would you want an OLED over the current mini LED? I legit don’t understand why people think the degradation and burn in is worth it for the barely noticeable increase of contrast- on a display with a lot of static elements.
They got rid of 96gb ram option. Was prepared to pay for that model of mbp cause I need more than 64gb, but not quite 128gb, but now have to shell out 600 more bucks for 128gb. Background, my windows machine with sample libraries takes 48 gigs of ram, but I plan to expand which means more ram is needed and logic needs much more ram than reaper so that’s at least 64 right there. Switching from windows to Mac for common tasks and music production while switching from windows to arch+cinnamon desktop for gaming mostly. Recall feature is the way a lifetime windows user (dabbling in mid 2000s and 2010s iMacs in academia) switches to Mac. I just want something that works dang it. You can’t even get 64 gb in a mbp without the m4 max.
We're almost there. More than wifi 7 and I will finally be able to change my Mac.
Correction: 120 gigaBITS per second on Thunderbolt 5, not gigabytes
Base 16Gb Ram for the M2 and M3 Air’s is really nice for the same price. Pretty cool to me. Love the M4 and M4 performance boost and M4 pro specs. 💜
I have the M1 Max 64 Gb and it's great, does everything I need. Graphic work, video editing, 3D/Blender. It will be cool to see how long it lasts 👀
upgrading from M1 macbook air to M4 Max. I am excited
"Especially Windows behind you"😂 I mean yeah, Windows is behind you) I don't know if this was by mistake of by intention, but still good...
Should I buy Mac mini or MacBook Pro both m4 pro 24/36gb ram 1tb ssd better cores chip? If I want to use it primarily as a desktop machine and keep it for 5+ years?
I just put my upgrade in. I traded in my base M1 MacBook Pro for the new M4 Pro MacBook Pro and upped the memory to 48G - I passed on the Max. I went for the best bang for my buck. You confirmed what I suspected about the Max chip. Thanks.
Why 48gb? I feel like the 24gb is really good for the next 4 years at least
@ The one advice that is always given is if you upgrade the only thing you need is memory. I have been using only 24G for the past 4 years and some of the tasks are memory intensive and having the headroom is a huge benefit. I can always add more external storage but never more ram.
@@chrisbogart687 yeah I agree I just think the 24gb is good since its a step up from the base 16gb. I’ve had 16gb the past four years and never had a problem with mine so figure you just do more ram heavy work
I was hopping for a nicer M4 max update. Like you I believe the updates to the M4 and M4 pro family were very good, and the M4 max update very underwhelming.
When u mentioned, "especially when Windows behind you, it will be so annoying," is it sarcasm 😂😂
No OLED display for the Macbook Pro in 2025, what a pitty....it doesn't worth the upgrade
Would you recommend upgrading from an M1 Max to an M4 Max?
I am so goddamn thankfully i didn't buy an M2 Max Studio three days ago. WOW these look great
How much should i wait? Should i buy m3 mac book pro today?
I have a MacBook Air i3 , 2013, do u think it worths to upgrade now?
It looks like 16GB becomes the base line for all mac product lines. Apple listened.
Thank you! Work Harder!
Typo - 3:27: “There are 4 performance cores” (X) -> “There are 10 performance cores” (O)
Hey guys, I wonder would you choose m4 Pro Mac Mini with 14c/20g or the base model of MacBook Pro m4 pro. I'm more into Mac Mini but wondering ur answers too.
I think I’m convinced to upgrade from my 2020 M1 Air to the base M4 Pro. Definitely getting 24GB of RAM. Never felt worthwhile upgrading until now.
For video rendering will there be a big difference between the Pro and the Max?
I don't think so. The Max is great if you're going to run AI locally on your PC
Otherwise I think the Pro is gonna be more than sufficient
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Been waiting for this video from you guys!
Wow, very impressed with the M4 Pro, which is a massive upgrade in terms of a 14 core CPU (10P+4E cores) and 272GB/sec memory bandwidth. The M3 Pro CPU was a 12 core (6P+6E) and the memory bandwidth was reduced to 150GB/sec whereas the M1 Pro and M2 Pro memory bandwidth was 200GB/sec.
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I have an M1 Max and am considering upgrading but I saw your video on the M5 chip leaks which is also enticing. Would you upgrade from M1 Max to M4 Max or wait for the M5 Max?
I'd wait for M10, bro.
I’d love to see M1 MBA with 16G of RAM for 800$ in Walmart
I was really hoping to see at least 18 cores in the Max chip. Sad. You are right, the start of the show is the M4 Pro. Now it will be really enough for many people out there, even for fancy stuff.s
Should I get this as my first MacBook?
Actually, even if you have a decent spec M1 Pro/Max I can’t really see any reason to upgrade unless you are a professional and urgently need those extra minutes.
I suspect many M series owners won’t upgrade until Apple releases a completely new design.
This makes it finally worth buying it.
I do not feel like I am getting left behind not buying the max chip.
Apple has successfully made it seems like every crum of new tech makes people (especially tech youtubers) go “wow!, they actually gave us something”
put in my preorder for the 14” m4 pro, been waiting for this since they put the m4 in the ipad
I'll upgrade if the M4s can do one thing - realtime playback without stuttering of a FCP timeline of mixed 4k/6k h.265 HEVC footage - 9 streams with no hiccups. :-) I may be waiting for the M4 Mac Studio. If even that can pull it off.
Thanks for the first review!! Do you think the MacBook m4 pro chip with 14 cpu/20 gpu with 48 gb of ram is worth getting over an m3 max chip with 14/30 & 36 ram for video editing? The m3 max chips seems to heat up a little bit. Thank you! ☺️🙏🏼
I ordered M4 Pro one 😊
Take my money now … it will be massive upgrade for me coming from mid 2014 15” MacBook Pro i7 2.8ghz 16gb ram and 1TB SSD when I’ve paid fortune back in the day 🔥
Thank you, I am waiting for the M4 Max video before I buy it 😄
MacBook Pro [M4 Pro] is the one!
The airs looking good right now! I wish my MBPM3 had those nits though !
M4 Max 128GB will become the go to for any LLM fine-tuning work. I hoped that Apple would give 256GB option. Even if it was over 10,000 dollars, it would have saved tens of thousands.
the only good reason to get M4Max is people that want to refine models on their laptop. It won't be as fast as H100, but it also doesn't cost 20K. A single RTX 4090 is still 2000.00 for 24G. To match M4Max 128G you'd spend a lot more to match the memory. Quantizing the model is fine for runtime inference, but not for training.
There´s always good Macbook videos on this channel , please compare it on benchmark M4 vs M4 Pro.
I'm waiting for next helloween M5 😊
Apple’s chip situation is convoluted and confusing now more than ever.
Why not:
A18: iPhone 16, 16 Plus (and new base iPad and rumored iPhone SE)
A18 Pro: iPhone 16 Pro, Pro Max and iPad mini
M4: iPad Air, Macbook Air, iMac, Mac mini
M4 Pro: iPad Pro, Macbook Pro, iMac, Mac mini
M4 Max: Macbook Pro, Mac studio (and a new iMac Pro and Mac Pro)
M4 Ultra: Mac studio, iMac Pro, Mac Pro
So many upgrades and so small publicity, marketing team at apple did a bad job this year
Just noticed your thumbnail. Totally on point regarding the chips (M4=good, Pro=great, Max=meh) 😁
No upgrade for me until Apple gives wifi7!!! Pathetic
finally Apple, a worthy upgrade from my M1 base Macbook Pro
I get Mid-2012 MacBook Pro vibes when they introduced USB-3 and could be upgraded to the high res anti glare display.
Still no WIFI 7....WHY? its available on the iphone 16 Pro.....
That's exactly what I was saying. It's very disappointing, honestly, especially for the high-end MBPs.
It's a bit annoying, but why is everyone so hyped about Wifi7..? Is it any daily-life changing compared to 6E? Honestly curious.
@Skaratak - It's more efficient overall, and this channel has explained it well before.
This is possibly the best base MBP yet. It's cheaper here in Singapore by abt S$150, 8GB more RAM, all the ports, in space black as well.
I think it’s hilarious that they are still comparing their new MacBooks with intel based MacBooks 😂 there’s last intel MacBook was what like 5 years ago?
I mean why not? Many people are still on Intel macs
@@Johnny91832 I guess, idk I feel like it’s just an excuse to inflate the stats. I’d rather see the main comparison be between the existing Mac that it’s replacing
I am interested in seeing you do an M2 Mac mini vs M4 Mac mini. thank you.
Have a 2021 m1 and it seems fine and this doesn’t seem like a big upgrade. I’m waiting for a OLED display
I really don’t understand the hype for the nano-textured display, it makes the display seem less sharp.
Really tempted to upgrade from my M2 Pro 16" But I feel ill wait for the redesign which hopefully comes with the M5 Chips, plus my M2 Pro doesn't feel at all sluggish still feels as fast as new. I'd imagine a lot of people who got the M1 Chip MacBooks feel the same, they absolutely killed it with the M Series Chips.
I have Macbook pro M3 Pro with 18gb of ram and 512gb, I got for $1700. You think the macbook pro M4 for $1600 is worth me swapping?
So THIS is why we have the notch.. to fit that fancy center stage webcam that I’ll never use! Finally the notch cutting into the otherwise clean menu bar, otherwise perfectly clean rectangular screen like every single other laptop that exists.. and certainly isn’t there for branding/marketing… is now justified!
I don't like the notch that's why I love my m2 macbook pro and also it has my favourite touch bar and as a student it's sufficient for me I never want to upgrade until I see a magic
Mac mini M4 Pro: 64GB RAM (unified memory) option is available, MacBook Pro M4 Pro: only 48GB RAM option is available. If you need more RAM you need to upgrade to MacBook Pro M4 Max.
For me, a M4 Macbook Air with Nano texture screen would be the most ideal. I can dream.
LETS BE REAL... Every MAC should have a 500GB Storage minimum. 256gb is a joke 41GB for the OS plus another 4GB for "Apple intelligence that sucks" and another 5-6GB for worthless apps you can't remove, like Pages, News, and TV. What a joke Apple has become... STATIC COMPANY!
My wallet this time: My time has come..
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I had a 15" BMP unibody with the matt display, that was amazing and definitely worth the extra cost.
Now THESE are what professional chips should be. Double down on peeformance cores as oppose of 50-50 it with sustain cores