Dear Kris! With the help of Chinese instructions, I almost figured out everything. Everything works great. Just want to thank! I wish you further success and new ideas. Very impressed!
Wow! Congratulations, this seems to be one of the very few highly efficient drones that have VTOL capability - you now have the best of both worlds - pretty amazing!
Hi Kris, I have done something like this using PX4 firmware (e-Flight Convergence). PX4 firmware has thrust differential gain. It detects yaw rate , then adjust front motors to keep the aircraft going straight? I want to use Ardupilot as i am familiar with mission planner camera control. Not success yet. Problem with uneven thrust from motor and asymmetric structure when me built it. Standard APM3.8.x has no thrust differential. I found it was very difficult to fly without it. Curious, if your firmware version has thrust differential in FWBA and auto mode?
Dear Kris! I do not quite understand how the switching between the motor modes occurs - low position = single engine thrust on the rear side, neutral = front side with two thrusts of the engine, high position = front and rear three thrusts of the engine. Where can I download a tutorial? I wish you every success!
Kris, this is absolut fantastic you've built here!! I'd also like to build one. could you help me out with the conversion kit you have? anywhere I can buy that or do you have some 3D print plans and milling plans for this? thanks - super work you did!!!
Well done. The transition settings must have been tricky. Flies great and stable hovering in a strong wind. Great job. Did you a specific purpose in mind for this type of aircraft?
X8 is not as popular here. At present, these airframes are more popular: ruclips.net/video/-zIxTqfHm3A/видео.html European and the United States seem to like this airframe very much, and there are so many people asking, so I am translating the Chinese tutorial into English, which is almost finished. ruclips.net/video/e_b3livalsE/видео.html
Hi Kris, Congratulations for your work. i guess it was not so easy to tune at the end ? I'd really like to go for same king of set-up, and would be very interrested in having additional info from you if you don't mind ? Do you have a website / forum about the flight controller settings ? , about the transition to forward flight ? Hoppe you'll support me. Friendly. Fred from France
Hi, The Skywalker X8 VTOL Y3 setup is more complex, the firmware can be downloaded for free, but it is not open source. May I suggest to starts with a simple Y3 ruclips.net/video/arQNWQrE06w/видео.html This is the quadplane of the ArduPilot. The official wiki is open source.
This is a hit for starting in woods or places where you cannot do handstart or running or runway or catapulting.The weight is very high? 32 kg or 3.2 kg?
I made a tilt rotor vtol, when I moved around the rides I didn't go straight, but did yaw so that the Mahana instead spun. What do you think the problem is?
Dear Chris! Can I use your firmware for a classic airplane and not a flying wing? For example as done in Kapetair. And another question is how you split the servo and motors (50Hz -400Hz) output 12345678 aux 123456
That would be a loooong answer lol You can find prebuilt VTOL servos at foxtech and a quick search will find you the UAVS branded ones as well. For the Pixhawk VTOL setup there are lots of videos on youtube about it
hi kris do i see correctly that you are flying in strong wind alway's wanted to build one like this but where i live is a constant strong wind about 23km/h
This is not the official firmware of Ardupilot! Therefore, the Servo Function has the rear tilt function and supports almost all the VTOLs. photos.app.goo.gl/AQ3tTAzKifCa29fe8
The firmware is free to download. drive.google.com/drive/folders/0Byw5ib0XX8SPcE1wR2pWcDNkS28 But all the tutorials are in Chinese, they are being translated into English as we speak.
Hello Chris , would like to ask if it is not a problem that the servo (DS 320 HV) changes the centre of gravidity of the plane? Do you not know one which has the rotation centre point in the point of gravidity of the motor?
Commercial application flight can be designed from the ground up, like this: ruclips.net/video/yS7sbO_lW9Y/видео.html The modified EPO is mainly DIY-like, like this: ruclips.net/video/-zIxTqfHm3A/видео.html
Hey, I have a question. Are you using the rear motor for yaw control? If yes, then during forward transition when the rear motor is tilted how can you control the yaw?
It is a ardupilot customized firmware, it’s free but not open source. Currently, theres only tutorials in Chinese, the English version is not yet translated.
that's sad :( But you guys are doing great job :D It's really impressive. Keep up the good work and do post if some resources or documentation is available for us!
I thought ardupilot firmware supported this yaw axis controller by 2 front motors vector thrust. The Tilt-Type choose Vectored, tilt-rotors have vectored control of yaw, where they can control yaw by tilting the left rotors independently of the right rotors.
And can you share the function of motors (Servo*-Function=**)? I'm making one, tilt-quadplanes with all four motors tilting,now I dont know which number I can choose for 4 tilt-servos follow values. Many thanks!!
How do you pick the right motors for such tiltrotors because these motors need to be effective for both lifting the plane vertically, as well as forward propulsion. I am designing a VTOL tiltrotor plane with AUW of about 6.5 kg, any advice on how I could pick suitable motors?
Here are some tips, for AUW 6.5Kg tiltrotor, it can be configured like this: Front: 460-520KV motor, Propeller JXF148 Rear: 400-420KV motor, Propeller 1655 (copter Propeller) Look for motors with thrust of 2-3 kg. drive.google.com/file/d/1InSAdDiaBbqfvWb_11RAKhPdFp0EkaEv/view
Nice quadplane tiltrotor you've got on there. I am designing a VTOL plane for maritime surveillance, would you recommend a tricopter tiltrotor plane or a quadplane with tilt rotors? In other words, would you recommend a VTOL plane design with three tilt rotors or four tilt rotors. I am looking for the best balance of endurance, performance and reliability (at least from your experience)? Much appreciate your opinion.
Maritime surveillance? I would use HeliPlane for offshore applications. It’s capable of landing on the swaying ship in strong wind For wide area surveillance, a hybrid of gas and battery engine is often used. It is a helicopter-based aircraft, not a quadplane. HeliPlane is an ongoing project of mine. drive.google.com/file/d/1SHhzNchhDKpyxRxHqUmL2PFOCYY6v3B6/view
hi kris :the link you have sent me all of firmwares are tricopter hexacopter i think there is no firmware for skywalker x8 if u pls sent me costom firmware for skywalker x8
Hi, The conversion kit is better to be produced by the manufacturers, but here are few things to be first. 1. This airframe is not supported by Ardupilot or PX4 official Firmware. You will have to use my firmware or develop one on your own. 2. My firmware can be downloaded for free, but it's not open source. 3. The current tutorial is in Chinese and is being translated into English, but the workload is huge (because there is a difference of over 2 years of trial and errors from the original official version).
Hi, I talked to the company because there is currently no conversion kit, which makes the assembly process too cumbersome. The conversion kit must be designed to simplify the assembly process and properly strengthen the fuselage structure. I asked the company to design it and do a complete test in the past few days, and then put the conversion kit on the market. It will be divided into conversion kit/PNP/RTF in the same way as Nimbus1800 Y3. You choose which one you want. If you have a certain degree of understanding of Ardupilot, you can buy a conversion kit. If you purchase more than 10 sets, we can go by OEM, laser engraves your company's logo. you may contact Wayne regarding sales neilarmstrong54321@gmail.com
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這是我看過設計最恰當理想的VTOL，最棒的是三軸中其中的尾部，完全沒有浪費的設計。
Dear Kris! With the help of Chinese instructions, I almost figured out everything. Everything works great. Just want to thank!
I wish you further success and new ideas. Very impressed!
Hi, Did Kris respond to your question ?
I am trying to build one like that
I can only get the fuselage
K大Pixhawk調整功力實在太厲害了! 再轉換幾乎沒有掉高情況，期待您的新作品!
Wow! Congratulations, this seems to be one of the very few highly efficient drones that have VTOL capability - you now have the best of both worlds - pretty amazing!
thanks!
I was allways a big fan from the X8 - but this VTOL system is amazing
Skywalker seems to be the platform of choice for VTOL builds.
Great mod and great flying! Keep up the good work...
Excellent job!...----Congratulation to the Staff--. .
Just a question: It's the Skywalker for Sale and could be delivered to Canada..
Thanks a lot.
Superb transition to forward flight! Really well done. Looks fast too!
Hi Kris, I have done something like this using PX4 firmware (e-Flight Convergence). PX4 firmware has thrust differential gain. It detects yaw rate , then adjust front motors to keep the aircraft going straight? I want to use Ardupilot as i am familiar with mission planner camera control. Not success yet. Problem with uneven thrust from motor and asymmetric structure when me built it. Standard APM3.8.x has no thrust differential. I found it was very difficult to fly without it. Curious, if your firmware version has thrust differential in FWBA and auto mode?
Dear Kris!
I do not quite understand how the switching between the motor modes occurs - low position = single engine thrust on the rear side, neutral = front side with two thrusts of the engine, high position = front and rear three thrusts of the engine.
Where can I download a tutorial?
I wish you every success!
That holds good in the wind! The Firefly 6 Pro will not do that because of the crummy AVA software. And your transitions are way way better.
thanks you :)
Great video , thanks for sharing this video!
Kris, this is absolut fantastic you've built here!! I'd also like to build one. could you help me out with the conversion kit you have? anywhere I can buy that or do you have some 3D print plans and milling plans for this? thanks - super work you did!!!
Hi Kris
I would like to build one like that
Where and how can I build it?
Well done. The transition settings must have been tricky. Flies great and stable hovering in a strong wind. Great job.
Did you a specific purpose in mind for this type of aircraft?
X8 is not as popular here. At present, these airframes are more popular:
ruclips.net/video/-zIxTqfHm3A/видео.html
European and the United States seem to like this airframe very much, and there are so many people asking, so I am translating the Chinese tutorial into English, which is almost finished.
ruclips.net/video/e_b3livalsE/видео.html
Hi Kris,
Congratulations for your work. i guess it was not so easy to tune at the end ?
I'd really like to go for same king of set-up, and would be very interrested in having additional info from you if you don't mind ?
Do you have a website / forum about the flight controller settings ? , about the transition to forward flight ?
Hoppe you'll support me.
Friendly.
Fred from France
Hi,
The Skywalker X8 VTOL Y3 setup is more complex, the firmware can be downloaded for free, but it is not open source.
May I suggest to starts with a simple Y3
ruclips.net/video/arQNWQrE06w/видео.html
This is the quadplane of the ArduPilot. The official wiki is open source.
Thanks kriss, for your answer and recommandation.
i'll start with Adupilot.
Good, I think such conversion should be integrated with X8 and put on sale on aliexpress.
This is a hit for starting in woods or places where you cannot do handstart or running or runway or catapulting.The weight is very high? 32 kg or 3.2 kg?
that is awesome, you should make a few and sell them.
I made a tilt rotor vtol, when I moved around the rides I didn't go straight, but did yaw so that the Mahana instead spun. What do you think the problem is?
Is this available in the USA! what is the max payload and flight times?
Dear Chris!
Can I use your firmware for a classic airplane and not a flying wing?
For example as done in Kapetair.
And another question is how you split the servo and motors (50Hz -400Hz) output 12345678 aux 123456
Yes,
but I didn't add the code to Folding propeller in this version.
50Hz or 490Hz depends on Servo?_Function. For example, 33 (ESC) is 490Hz
Thank you very much, Kris.
hi Kris. I want to make this vtol style 3-engine vtol. How can I learn the software and card information?
ArduPilot firmware will soon support Y3*3
I'm an engineer student, I want to make this shape vtol, is there a written source or link to do this about how you do it? Like Ardupilot settings
By the way, thank you for your return.
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Ardupilot Official Tutorial
ardupilot.org/plane/docs/quadplane-support.html
Ardupilot Sourcecode(git)
github.com/ArduPilot/ardupilot
SkywalkerX8_Y3x3.param
drive.google.com/drive/folders/1TIarmYf1M9FT1mP0yTYifKa8CfvFjTVD
X8 VTOL
ruclips.net/video/e_b3livalsE/видео.html
Hi I'm really interested in your build. I have couple questions to ask. Where to find those servo and how to setup firmware to pixhawk?
That would be a loooong answer lol You can find prebuilt VTOL servos at foxtech and a quick search will find you the UAVS branded ones as well. For the Pixhawk VTOL setup there are lots of videos on youtube about it
hi kris do i see correctly that you are flying in strong wind alway's wanted to build one like this but where i live is a constant strong wind about 23km/h
thay is very good, I will try to build one too oneday
Great concept, well executed! 👍👍
what are the materials needed? (please provide link)
do you have any english instructions?
Hi, kris.
Could you send me information about how you did the project? I would like to set up a Vtol like yours. Thank you very much.
Hi Kris, if you dont mind to share the building process of this VTOL. I wanted to know how the rear tilting mechanism and motor works. Thank you
This is not the official firmware of Ardupilot!
Therefore, the Servo Function has the rear tilt function and supports almost all the VTOLs.
photos.app.goo.gl/AQ3tTAzKifCa29fe8
Thank you for your response Kris. I wanted to modify the X8 and my other delta wings like you have.
The firmware is free to download.
drive.google.com/drive/folders/0Byw5ib0XX8SPcE1wR2pWcDNkS28
But all the tutorials are in Chinese, they are being translated into English as we speak.
Thank you Kris, I will study the parameters.
In pixhawk 2.4.8 flight controller I didn't get vtol model to get vtol model. What I want to do???
Where can I get one?
Hello Chris , would like to ask if it is not a problem that the servo (DS 320 HV) changes the centre of gravidity of the plane? Do you not know one which has the rotation centre point in the point of gravidity of the motor?
Commercial application flight can be designed from the ground up, like this:
ruclips.net/video/yS7sbO_lW9Y/видео.html
The modified EPO is mainly DIY-like, like this:
ruclips.net/video/-zIxTqfHm3A/видео.html
Could you say which landing gear have you used ?
Great build Kris! Mind if I copy your setup? Thank you
Omg I want to do this sooo baldy amazing... if I built one could u send help file for mix? I would be lost programming this! Lol
Wow, that worked really well!
Where can I buy one!?!
HELLO WHAT KIND OF ENGINES YOU USE FORWARD AND BACK, AND HOW MUCH DOES YOUR SHIP
双发前拉模式，电机的拉力线是怎么样的？
Hello is it possible that you could share the parameter in the .bin file? Thank you in advance
美好的一天，克里斯。能不能分享一下你的参数和设置？你的视频激励我做类似的事情。感谢期待
這邊有一份VTOL教程，如果有 QQ 也可加入教程內提到的 QQ 群哦！
docs.google.com/document/d/1m50Y-lVruY6l1PpNA2o9VSnaOseCRNyIpawMjfsPh6o/edit?usp=drivesdk
謝謝克里斯，我感謝你的幫助
@@kris968658 美好的一天，克里斯。谢谢您的支持。请我仍然需要你的帮助。我需要一张 ubec 和 esc 接线图。另外，我不在QQ上，但我希望我们讨论一些合作领域。
谢谢
@@kalimpaskal4078 每种机型的接线图都差不多的，可以参考这个教程。
docs.google.com/document/d/1aPbBkNgAeAoNIWS_lJ_RSWjO3SL_8j1bYBXDKKV7zFk/edit?usp=drivesdk
如果没有 QQ ，可以加入这个FB 社团。
facebook.com/groups/1600000740105231/?ref=share
I am interested in building it as well but I need more details please
高手。要做风洞吗？我专业做混凝土。
SKYNET has just arrived! : )
Hey, I have a question. Are you using the rear motor for yaw control? If yes, then during forward transition when the rear motor is tilted how can you control the yaw?
No,
The yaw control is from the front motors' vector thrust, it has nothing to do with the rear motor.
kris oh, so you have differential control for tilt? Also, which firmware have you used?
It is a ardupilot customized firmware, it’s free but not open source.
Currently, theres only tutorials in Chinese, the English version is not yet translated.
that's sad :( But you guys are doing great job :D It's really impressive. Keep up the good work and do post if some resources or documentation is available for us!
nice job kris,i am also working on similar project can you share the parameters and firmware ?
thank you.
Hey kris is this system for sale or where can it bought ..
A: The conversion kits and tutorials are planned to be release by mid September, we are almost done, and please be patient.
Hey Kris, any new status on the conversion kit? I wouls like to but one or two!
@@jamespurser2341 Hi, please contact our sales, neilarmstrong54321@gmail.com
@@jamespurser2341 Hi, please contact our sales, neilarmstrong54321@gmail.com
@@kris968658 any update ???
Superb VTOL RC
Wat is leuk vliegtuig
Hi Kris. Congratulations! Could you tell me how different between your "firmware" and ardupilot firmware?
the yaw axis controller, right? by 2 front motors vector thrust??
yes.
I thought ardupilot firmware supported this yaw axis controller by 2 front motors vector thrust. The Tilt-Type choose Vectored, tilt-rotors have vectored control of yaw, where they can control yaw by tilting the left rotors independently of the right rotors.
And can you share the function of motors (Servo*-Function=**)? I'm making one, tilt-quadplanes with all four motors tilting,now I dont know which number I can choose for 4 tilt-servos follow values. Many thanks!!
[X4*4]Servo function:
SERVO1_FUNCTION=4(Aileron servo)
SERVO2_FUNCTION=80(right V-tail servo)
SERVO4_FUNCTION=79(left V-tail servo)
SERVO5_FUNCTION=76(right tilt-servo,Vector thrust yaw)
SERVO6_FUNCTION=75(left tilt-servo,,Vector thrust yaw)
SERVO7_FUNCTION=45(rear tilt-servo,Vector thrust pitch)
SERVO8_FUNCTION=45(rear tilt-servo,Vector thrust pitch)
SERVO9_FUNCTION=33(motor 1)
SERVO10_FUNCTION=34(motor 2)
SERVO11_FUNCTION=35(motor 3)
SERVO12_FUNCTION=36(motor 4)
[X4*4]parameters:
Q_ENABLE=1
Q_FRAME_CLASS=1
Q_FRAME_TYPE=1
Q_ASSIST_ALT=25
Q_ASSIST_ALT_MOD=18
Q_ASSIST_SPEED=12
Q_LAND_DETECT=3
Q_GUIDED_MODE=0
Q_RTL_MODE=1
Q_RTL_LOIT_ALT=100
Q_RTL_LOIT_MIN=200
Q_RTL_LOIT_RAD=120
Q_TILT_MASK=15
Q_TILT_MAX=60
Q_TILT_RATE_DN=18
Q_TILT_RATE_UP=90
Q_TILT_SRV_SYNC=0
Q_TILT_THR_DN=80
Q_TILT_THR_UP=20
Q_TILT_TYPE=2
Q_TILT_YAW_ANGLE=12
Q_TILT_FIX_ANGLE=10
Q_TILT_FIX_GAIN=60
Q_TRAN_PIT_MAX=5
Q_TRAN_RLL_MAX=3
RC7_OPT=4(Low=2 rear motors,Center=2 front motors,High=all motors)
like this(Y3*3):
drive.google.com/open?id=133jetFMl7Y2OJIx0z48MYxG--YsBW2Hh
drive.google.com/open?id=1jRzUNuVFdKILE6sza-ea9qf3DNZk3maW
How do you pick the right motors for such tiltrotors because these motors need to be effective for both lifting the plane vertically, as well as forward propulsion. I am designing a VTOL tiltrotor plane with AUW of about 6.5 kg, any advice on how I could pick suitable motors?
Here are some tips, for AUW 6.5Kg tiltrotor, it can be configured like this:
Front: 460-520KV motor, Propeller JXF148
Rear: 400-420KV motor, Propeller 1655 (copter Propeller)
Look for motors with thrust of 2-3 kg.
drive.google.com/file/d/1InSAdDiaBbqfvWb_11RAKhPdFp0EkaEv/view
Nice quadplane tiltrotor you've got on there. I am designing a VTOL plane for maritime surveillance, would you recommend a tricopter tiltrotor plane or a quadplane with tilt rotors? In other words, would you recommend a VTOL plane design with three tilt rotors or four tilt rotors. I am looking for the best balance of endurance, performance and reliability (at least from your experience)? Much appreciate your opinion.
Maritime surveillance?
I would use HeliPlane for offshore applications. It’s capable of landing on the swaying ship in strong wind
For wide area surveillance, a hybrid of gas and battery engine is often used.
It is a helicopter-based aircraft, not a quadplane.
HeliPlane is an ongoing project of mine.
drive.google.com/file/d/1SHhzNchhDKpyxRxHqUmL2PFOCYY6v3B6/view
HeliPlane setup works with Pixhawk? I am clueless on HeliPlanes to be honest.
What tilt servos are you using in this quadplane?
Where can someone gets this build from?....
The conversion kit and tutorial are in the process of translation. It is almost finished, please wait. We planned to release by mid September
@@kris968658 had this been releases yet?
very nice work.
Great , Congratulations,
Hi Kris. is there link to website/forum bout the tilt feature of this pixhawk quadplane mode?
It has not been published on rcgroups yet. The only description is in Chinese now.
kris - hehe我是中国人。可以分享网址吗？
教程在5imx
bbs.5imx.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=1249923&extra=page%3D1
固件及讨论可加入QQ群(群号:305970641)
kris - ok谢谢您啊
Hey Kris, this link to the forum is not available and seems the forum is down. Do you have it shared anywhere else?
你好 請問有製作在販售嗎？ 感謝
這架X8是用來驗證(Y3三矢量機型)用的,沒賣哦!
但套件可以買到,就是要自己動手DIY就是.
不過我這個固件不開源,但可免費下載,一般Pixhawk可以刷,如果是工控(例如傳感器改ADIS16xxx那類)則要談喔!
HI...what type of servo you use for the back motor...
We are the manufacturer of the servo but it’s pre-market now. If you’re interested, please email : neilarmstrong54321@gmail.com
kris
Damm where is the subtitles
do you sell this
Awesome!
hi kris i have a couple of questions can you help me?
sure, what are they?
Do you have wechat? We could talk from there
Sir?
neilarmstrong54321@gmail.com
QQ ID:1843911652
hi iam begiinner if u help me where to set servo function mission planner or radio also if sent me screen shot
docs.google.com/document/d/1jLnl961CtEIqAq_3oh9jk35Kpcnx4j1u-kH0-5ZXLL8/edit?usp=sharing
thanks allot u r honnest man
hi kris :the link you have sent me all of firmwares are tricopter hexacopter i think there is no firmware for skywalker x8 if u pls sent me costom firmware for skywalker x8
@@shafiullahafghan1108
My google drive:
drive.google.com/drive/folders/0Byw5ib0XX8SPcE1wR2pWcDNkS28?usp=sharing
@@kris968658 thanks allot
donde se puede comprar este Skywalker X8?
esto debe ser modificado por ti mismo!
ruclips.net/video/e_b3livalsE/видео.html
@@kris968658 Muchas gracias Kris un abrazo.
Nice
🙏🏽👍🏾
can u make to us... 10 unit?
Hi,
The conversion kit is better to be produced by the manufacturers, but here are few things to be first.
1. This airframe is not supported by Ardupilot or PX4 official Firmware. You will have to use my firmware or develop one on your own.
2. My firmware can be downloaded for free, but it's not open source.
3. The current tutorial is in Chinese and is being translated into English, but the workload is huge (because there is a difference of over 2 years of trial and errors from the original official version).
if i want this.. 10 unit can u sell to my company
Hi,
I talked to the company because there is currently no conversion kit, which makes the assembly process too cumbersome. The conversion kit must be designed to simplify the assembly process and properly strengthen the fuselage structure.
I asked the company to design it and do a complete test in the past few days, and then put the conversion kit on the market. It will be divided into conversion kit/PNP/RTF in the same way as Nimbus1800 Y3.
You choose which one you want. If you have a certain degree of understanding of Ardupilot, you can buy a conversion kit. If you purchase more than 10 sets, we can go by OEM, laser engraves your company's logo.
you may contact Wayne regarding sales neilarmstrong54321@gmail.com
GOOD
ممكن التواصل معك
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Nice