The Forgotten Origin of the Scientific Method

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  • Опубликовано: 17 ноя 2024

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  • @besmart
    @besmart  Год назад +1282

    Scientists: Crawling around in the dark looking for answers since 1000 CE

    • @Aragorn7884
      @Aragorn7884 Год назад +25

      ...that's what she said 🤔😏

    • @Bibibosh
      @Bibibosh Год назад +21

      Whats the frame rate of the projection? 60fps?
      1 BILLION fps?.... INFINITY FPS?!!??!?!?!?!?!?
      I NEED ANSWERS!!!!!!!

    • @AriaHarmony
      @AriaHarmony Год назад +27

      This reminds me of "science as a candle in the dark" by Carl Sagan. We are all in the dark actually, scientists are the ones who are aware of it and always looking for answers to help brighten humanity's future.

    • @ThymeHere
      @ThymeHere Год назад +2

      Indeed

    • @Periwinkleaccount
      @Periwinkleaccount Год назад +3

      @@Bibibosh is that a joke? Each part of it “updates” every time more light hits it, but only that spot changes, it doesn’t work like a computer screen.

  • @physicsstudent9701
    @physicsstudent9701 Год назад +3325

    Ibn haytham famous quote "The duty of the man who investigates the writings of scientists, if learning the truth is his goal, is to make himself an enemy of all that he reads, and ... attack it from every side. He should also suspect himself as he performs his critical examination of it, so that he may avoid falling into either prejudice or leniency."

    • @iamleoooo
      @iamleoooo Год назад +26

      Can you tell me from which book did he say this?

    • @physicsstudent9701
      @physicsstudent9701 Год назад +276

      ​@@iamleoooo book of optics

    • @zed1488
      @zed1488 Год назад +6

      Cool!

    • @maalikserebryakov
      @maalikserebryakov Год назад +18

      @@physicsstudent9701 this is a fabricated quote, its not in the book of ootics.
      nice try.

    • @TeknologiPintar
      @TeknologiPintar Год назад +139

      Kitab Al Manadhir

  • @sumthin5
    @sumthin5 Год назад +5523

    Fun fact: the term “camera” in European languages came from the Arabic word “ Qumra, ” which means the closed dark place, and it is a word referring to the “dark room” that Ibn al-Haytham used in his visual experiments. Ibn al-Haytham was the first to present a description of the camera in the course of his study of science.

    • @nils4467
      @nils4467 Год назад +130

      amazing

    • @parkmin-su4793
      @parkmin-su4793 Год назад +73

      Woahh

    • @saifabidalbloushi
      @saifabidalbloushi Год назад +391

      And then from the word "qumra" came "kamra" in the urdu language, which means "room"

    • @saifabidalbloushi
      @saifabidalbloushi Год назад +121

      Kinda amazing how it all ties up

    • @floriath
      @floriath Год назад +34

      @@saifabidalbloushi Nothing really interesting in that derivation!

  • @alialtuma6106
    @alialtuma6106 Год назад +57

    Great episode! We learned (as Arab pupils) a little bit about Ibn Al Haytham at school, but there was more here about him to learn.

  • @semregob3363
    @semregob3363 Год назад +1779

    The Islamic golden age was truly a phenomena, even after the burning of the great libraries of Baghdad at the hands of the Tatars we still have a lot of science rooted in that era. truly impressive.

    • @Bell_plejdo568p
      @Bell_plejdo568p Год назад +124

      It wasn't the tatars it was the mongols

    • @NutsforBrainsLOL
      @NutsforBrainsLOL Год назад +73

      @@Bell_plejdo568p could you tell the difference please..

    • @lucythemotherofathests1465
      @lucythemotherofathests1465 Год назад +58

      The tatars are the mongols 😂😂

    • @altumurnemtzra2026
      @altumurnemtzra2026 Год назад +76

      @@NutsforBrainsLOL basically all who were related to turks called them tartars, the rest called them mongols.
      That's why middle easterners get confused when they hear the term tartars, they never heard of it as the mongols never called themselves that.

    • @tusharrawat6670
      @tusharrawat6670 Год назад

      Wow Hindus also give the same reason behind being an outdated and unscientific society. Their science of 'glory days' was burnt in a Library by some Mughal invader. So they keep reminiscing it and deny to move on 😁.

  • @Eddy-Cool
    @Eddy-Cool Год назад +2004

    one thing I absolutely love about the Islamic golden age is that you are not forced to choose a single subject/field and stick to it for the rest of your life. something peeks your interest; you go learn it, research it, and hopefully give the world a great invention! you can be a theologian, philosopher, astronomer, doctor, historian, anything under the sun all at the same time!! this type of intellectual freedom is unthinkable in today's society. God, I'm so born in the wrong century!!

    • @Yanzdorloph
      @Yanzdorloph Год назад +119

      that was not exclusive to islamic scholars, most of the scholars of the renaissance were the same, they had many fields they worked on, from phylosophy to mathematics ..etc

    • @Eddy-Cool
      @Eddy-Cool Год назад +182

      @@Yanzdorloph *very very few!

    • @zhinkunakur4751
      @zhinkunakur4751 Год назад +79

      that is not exclusive to islamic or any one culture/reign though , it is although exclusive to the science of all ages except modern .

    • @aquibkhan9385
      @aquibkhan9385 Год назад +42

      ​@@Eddy-Cool
      I would have to agree with the other guy. Also, science wasn't well differentiated back then.
      Astronomy, medical, philosophy or anything that seemed to have concrete logic was science so it was technically impossible to force anyone.

    • @AshrafAnam
      @AshrafAnam Год назад +30

      So true. And people would specialize in different fields at the same time and thus were polymaths...a theologian could be the greatest physicist of his time.

  • @FloozieOne
    @FloozieOne Год назад +51

    What a great episode. So, among all the mad scientists that have existed (and still do), the one who only pretended to be mad set the stage for the scientific method and all true science since his time.

    • @anywallsocket
      @anywallsocket Год назад +2

      Science is not true or false, it is only more or less functionalist models.

  • @muhammadfadhilnurhafizwang7932
    @muhammadfadhilnurhafizwang7932 Год назад +1899

    Dude was put in a dark room feigning insanity and came out enlightened. If it was me, I'd most likely went insane for real

    • @rameezsheikh7576
      @rameezsheikh7576 Год назад +118

      It is imaan in ALLAH which makes a momin "A Beliver" in aakhira'h, in scale, in jannah, in jahannum, thus momin can survive most difficult situations.

    • @aerokasyeal4840
      @aerokasyeal4840 Год назад +55

      hahahaha for real brother, it's amazing how humans use their mind, The strange thing is, there are some very very smart people, who still refuse to believe in a Creator, God most high, but they are only betraying themselves

    • @MOSMASTERING
      @MOSMASTERING Год назад +54

      @@aerokasyeal4840 Not really. It's more intellectually and rationally sound to rely on empirical evidence, not listen to ancient superstition that has no relevance today.

    • @allyhenry604
      @allyhenry604 Год назад +9

      He was really in Plato’s cave

    • @gilginocastillo1874
      @gilginocastillo1874 Год назад

      @@aerokasyeal4840 o999l99999p

  • @Stewie-Griffin
    @Stewie-Griffin Год назад +149

    Fun fact Ibn Al-Haytham portrait is on the Iraqi Dinar and he was born in Basra southern Iraq.

    • @maeda7778
      @maeda7778 Год назад +4

      On iraqi 10 dinars.

    • @emaddddd
      @emaddddd 7 месяцев назад

      The new version of 10 thousand dinars is a building now.

  • @Figgy5119
    @Figgy5119 Год назад +57

    It took me until nearly the end of the video to realize when you said it's the dark origins of the scientific method you actually meant the dark origins. I'd been waiting the whole time for some devious fact drops that weren't coming XD

  • @mohammedkhaleel9036
    @mohammedkhaleel9036 Год назад +906

    Some of the people who translated his works, they mispronounced the word Qumra that he mentioned to Camera...
    He was the first person explaining how the human eyes work and how we see the things
    May Allah bless his soul

    • @HARRAPANBALL
      @HARRAPANBALL Год назад +15

      Indians invented algebra

    • @physicsstudent9701
      @physicsstudent9701 Год назад +154

      ​@@HARRAPANBALL Babylonians (Ancient iraqi) invented algebra even before your vedas existed

    • @HARRAPANBALL
      @HARRAPANBALL Год назад +9

      @@physicsstudent9701 its not that much fundamental developed
      But algebra as a science is developed in India

    • @Mark-Wilson
      @Mark-Wilson Год назад +81

      @@HARRAPANBALL and the Indians come again

    • @mohammedkhaleel9036
      @mohammedkhaleel9036 Год назад +119

      @@HARRAPANBALL yup, that's why it has Arabic name

  • @Asitiseveryday
    @Asitiseveryday Год назад +693

    The only thing I knew about this guy that he was behind the root idea of camera's invention.. but I didn't know about his hard work behind this . Amazing

    • @skeletorlikespotatoes7846
      @skeletorlikespotatoes7846 Год назад +2

      He didn't invent the camera.

    • @physicsstudent9701
      @physicsstudent9701 Год назад +48

      @@skeletorlikespotatoes7846 he discovered the principle behind these camera (which existed since antiquity and also in nature). He explained the reason for formation of inverted image using modern steps of scientific method namely observation, hypothesis, experiment,

    • @skeletorlikespotatoes7846
      @skeletorlikespotatoes7846 Год назад +5

      @@physicsstudent9701 the principle is really basic. This had been described centuries before by Chinese observers. There's nothing technical about the idea. And it had pretty much nothing to do with the development of the actual camera in the 19th century.

    • @physicsstudent9701
      @physicsstudent9701 Год назад +48

      @@skeletorlikespotatoes7846 the Chinese philosopher Mozi didn't gave accurate explanation for this. It was ibn al haytham who experimented with lantern and proved his point that light emerges from each point of an object in every direction.

    • @skeletorlikespotatoes7846
      @skeletorlikespotatoes7846 Год назад +1

      @@physicsstudent9701 he's one example. There's plenty of people who played with this idea. It was not a rare crazy insane or new idea. He may have written down the most clear example (THAT WE HAVE) but the idea is not groundbreaking and did not affect an evolution of the camera.

  • @mikeharrison1868
    @mikeharrison1868 Год назад +153

    Thanks for this. I often have arguments with fundamentalist Christians who can't allow people working in the Muslim world any agency in science, maths, etc. They claim that those workers only copied the Greeks, etc. No matter what I bring up, nothing can get through their armour. Jim Al Khalili (a British physicist of Iraqi origin) has written a great book called “Pathfinders", and there's a ton of other material around now.

    • @DM-dy9bq
      @DM-dy9bq Год назад +6

      You cant just debat religious fubdamentalist.
      I got the same experience argumenting with muslim fundamentalist about similar topics.
      And for the love of Christ.. they were running in the dark its just ridiculous...

    • @ridwan3533
      @ridwan3533 Год назад +4

      ​@@DM-dy9bqa some fundamentalist it's always problem from both side how to express their ignorance if someone attack toward their ego
      Don't debate with person if he don't want your opinion it only waste of time

    • @anomalousviewer3164
      @anomalousviewer3164 Год назад

      I've heard the same about fundamentalist atheists who incorrectly think science is purely an atheist endeavour, and refuse to allow Christians any agency in science and research etc.

    • @sandal_thong8631
      @sandal_thong8631 9 месяцев назад +2

      One of my thoughts this week is, How much influence should people who reject the biological sciences have on public policy regarding biological matters?

    • @mikeharrison1868
      @mikeharrison1868 9 месяцев назад

      @@sandal_thong8631 Exactly zero! (Zero, of course, being introduced to the western world by the Arabs!)

  • @NewMessage
    @NewMessage Год назад +920

    I was devastated to find out Plato did not, in fact, invent the plate.
    Gutted.

    • @besmart
      @besmart  Год назад +136

      😭

    • @GTAVictor9128
      @GTAVictor9128 Год назад +46

      But did he actually invent the idea of platonic love?

    • @nezalok270
      @nezalok270 Год назад +35

      but he DID invent play‐dough

    • @brooklyna007
      @brooklyna007 Год назад +16

      This is how I felt when I found out that Pyrrho wasn't a pyro and that Hypatia didn't have ADHD.

    • @jamesgulapa7219
      @jamesgulapa7219 Год назад +20

      ...and Hercules didn't have a burrowing pet named Molecules

  • @ZZ-vl5nd
    @ZZ-vl5nd Год назад +3217

    Glad a big channel like this giving credit to Arabs /Muslims for the scientific advances they contributed to humanity.

    • @holychicin8738
      @holychicin8738 Год назад +108

      Facts bro 🤝💯

    • @m33a
      @m33a Год назад +315

      i don't think it really matters which race or religion they're from, we're all humans

    • @GlurglePop
      @GlurglePop Год назад +46

      So much has changed.

    • @ZZ-vl5nd
      @ZZ-vl5nd Год назад +521

      @@m33a agree. Science is a human heritage, meanwhile we should give credit where credit is due. Many western references and books don't mention of the huge role Arabs/Muslims played in translating and preserving creek philosophy (without which we would have never known enlightement) and pioneering many sciences like pharmacy, optics, astronomy, etc.
      Have a great day.

    • @Alghi451
      @Alghi451 Год назад +28

      He's not arap, silly

  • @mosaka1471
    @mosaka1471 Год назад +139

    Worth mentioning is that Ibn al haitham was freed by the the wife of the ruler (Sit Almulk) whom was originally a Roman concuban. Also back then whoever published something got paid for it except Ibn Alhaitham. He refused to get paid because he believed science is a human right and should be reachable by all. He suffered a lot with rulers born in Basrah(Iraq) ran away from Basrah to Aleppo (Syria) because he refused to build a palace for the ruler. Prisoned in Cairo then freed and kept researching until he died.
    Edit: You guys are absolutely right it was Sit Almulk I edited it. Sorry for the huge mistakes

    • @ilovehorses38
      @ilovehorses38 Год назад +4

      lols, not every woman of high political standing was a concubine ___'eye-roll'

    • @mosaka1471
      @mosaka1471 Год назад +2

      @@ilovehorses38 they usually become rappers

    • @jttcosmos
      @jttcosmos Год назад +5

      @@ilovehorses38 In the case of Shajar al-Durr, she originally was. Her life was pretty incredible, but sadly we still know way too little about her (e.g. her origin or date of birth):
      "She was the wife of As-Salih Ayyub, and later of Izz al-Din Aybak, the first sultan of the Mamluk Bahri dynasty. Prior to becoming Ayyub's wife, she was a child slave and Ayyub's concubine.
      In political affairs, Shajar al-Durr played a crucial role after the death of her first husband during the Seventh Crusade against Egypt (1249-1250 AD). She became the sultana of Egypt on 2 May 1250, marking the end of the Ayyubid reign and the start of the Mamluk era."
      (had never heard about her before, hence did some digging, but am now very much intrigued)

    • @marei7290
      @marei7290 9 месяцев назад +2

      thank you for the information , but the elder sister of El Hakem was "" Set El Molk "" not Shajar aldur as much as I know, did he have another sister?

    • @retf8977
      @retf8977 9 месяцев назад +2

      Ibn Al-Haytham and Shajar Al-Dur lived 2 centuries apart

  • @Ngamotu83
    @Ngamotu83 Год назад +485

    Surely, Newton did get some of his ideas from elsewhere. He is often quoted as saying, "If I have seen further, it is by standing on the shoulders of giants." So he must have been inspires by others who came before him.
    That being said, as soon as I saw the thumbnail for this video, I knew it was about Ibn al-Haytham. I've been fascinated by the history of science during the Islamic caliphates, for a long time now. Not enough people know about the scientific contributions of the caliphates.

    • @boutyourelhassan7644
      @boutyourelhassan7644 Год назад

      Scientific method is inventé by galilee

    • @ryojs4286
      @ryojs4286 Год назад +53

      Muslims literally *ruled the world through excellence.* Always remember these two names
      ***Ibn Sina*** 9th century muslim
      *Founder of Modern Medicine*
      1. Light being a finite wave
      2. Objects having their own personal gravity
      3. Father of Medicine, (before this point people in the west used chinese type medicine. "So if you look at jupiter you might have excessive bowl movement today")
      4.a. Invented numerous medical equipment we use to this day such as *scalpels* etc
      4. As if all of that isnt enough. He postulated about the Big Bang (from the Quranic Verse ofc but he brought it to the realm of science and human attempted understanding)
      The rest of which Im still discovering about him as its a pain to find info on him
      And
      ***Ibn Al Haytham*** 9th century muslim
      1. ***Founder of Science***
      2. Founder of Optics, refractions, the camera etc
      3. *Founder of the unbiased experimentation method* (repeated experiments to get less bias? Thats this guy)
      4. He also wrote on Gravity like Ibn Sina
      Here's the kicker and pin this
      ** 1687 Isaac Newton (read criminal)
      Had a copy of Kitab al Manazir
      Source: Islamic Era Scientists: Muhammed Hamza El-Saba (Professor Engineering) Sept 2021
      "Ibn Al Haytham did a whole series of experiments, with darkrooms with pinholes (like camera) and other devices, to prove that Light Rays enter the eye from the outside. And he founded the Theory of Light Refraction and Reflection.
      This work of Ibn Al Haytham, based on experimental observation in the year 100-" I think they meant 1000, "represents the birth of Scientific experimental method. His approach was translated into Latin and taken up centuries later by Roger Bacon, Francis Bacon, and Galileo.**
      ___***In 1687, Isaac Newton Philosophiae Naturalis Principia Mathematica[1], in which he formulated Newton's laws of motions and Newton's laws of gravity, after centuries of their discovery and publishing, by Islamic era Scientists!"***___
      Christians Atheists only thro genocide, colonialism, Nazism, r9pe and cheating in various forms
      Then stealing Muslim advancements
      Christians do what they do best
      At least he had the *audacity* to signage the magnificence
      "We stand on the shoulders of giants-!"
      My butt
      What he means is
      "We stole your stuff again Muslims"
      حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ عُثْمَانَ الدِّمَشْقِيُّ أَبُو الْجَمَاهِرِ، قَالَ حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو كَعْبٍ، أَيُّوبُ بْنُ مُحَمَّدٍ السَّعْدِيُّ قَالَ حَدَّثَنِي سُلَيْمَانُ بْنُ حَبِيبٍ الْمُحَارِبِيُّ، عَنْ أَبِي أُمَامَةَ، قَالَ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏ "‏ أَنَا زَعِيمٌ بِبَيْتٍ فِي رَبَضِ الْجَنَّةِ لِمَنْ تَرَكَ الْمِرَاءَ وَإِنْ كَانَ مُحِقًّا وَبِبَيْتٍ فِي وَسَطِ الْجَنَّةِ لِمَنْ تَرَكَ الْكَذِبَ وَإِنْ كَانَ مَازِحًا وَبِبَيْتٍ فِي أَعْلَى الْجَنَّةِ لِمَنْ حَسَّنَ خُلُقَهُ ‏"‏ ‏.‏
      Narrated AbuUmamah:
      The Prophet (ﷺ) said: I guarantee a house in the surroundings of Paradise for a man who avoids quarrelling even if he were in the right, a house in the middle of Paradise for a man who avoids lying even if he were joking, and a house in the upper part of Paradise for a man who made his character good.
      Sunan Abi Dawud 4800
      Chapter 8: Regarding good character, Book 43: General Behavior (Kitab Al-Adab)
      Grade: Hasan (Al-Albani)
      sunnah.com/abudawud:4800

    • @maalikserebryakov
      @maalikserebryakov Год назад +6

      @@ryojs4286Ibn sina wasn’t even muslim.
      He was a notorious wine drinker and got chased out of his city for being a heretic.
      L.

    • @asif8224
      @asif8224 Год назад +33

      @@maalikserebryakov ibne sina wasn’t Muslim? 😹
      Just google it.he was a devout Muslim Wikipedia says that.
      . how dare you call him non muslim.
      It’s hurt right hearing about Muslims golden age?

    • @suhailnoor6898
      @suhailnoor6898 Год назад +16

      ​@@asif8224 I am not a kafir, but yes this man here is right. IBN Sina is considered an disbeliever by many scholars of his era. But his contributions are sure amazing

  • @peaceloving1626
    @peaceloving1626 Год назад +616

    This man is truly amazing! Al-Hazen; The First True Scientist as Oxford Union calls him in 2010. 🙏
    In fact, what I personally believe is that science is not the inheritance of just one nation but all great nations who contributed their part in the development. Be it Indians, Chinese, Greeks, Latins, Muslim Arabs, Europeans.
    Hats off to everyone! 👍👍👍

    • @HARRAPANBALL
      @HARRAPANBALL Год назад +19

      Indians invented algebra

    • @Overawed
      @Overawed Год назад +85

      @@HARRAPANBALL lol

    • @Findout_1
      @Findout_1 Год назад +79

      @@HARRAPANBALL funny how the word algebra sounds arabic and the inventors name is mohammad alkhwarazmi. maybe we should rewrite history. just cuz indians ivented 0 (zero) which was the greatest thing ever. Forgive the sarcasm but you are kinda in the wrong my friend.

    • @HARRAPANBALL
      @HARRAPANBALL Год назад +10

      @@Findout_1 no my friend you you need to do some research and stop listening to mainstream
      I have made a vedio
      And provided references ...
      Algebra was indeed made a different stream Indians

    • @Findout_1
      @Findout_1 Год назад +4

      @@HARRAPANBALL I will look into it

  • @majestictaleb
    @majestictaleb 8 месяцев назад +5

    to clarify the misconception
    أبو عَلْي الحَسَن بن الحَسَن بن الهَيْثَم البصري
    Ḥasan Ibn al-Haytham was a medieval mathematician, astronomer, and physicist of the Islamic Golden Age from present-day Iraq,
    ●Born : Jul1,965AD,Basrah,Iraq
    ●Died:Mar6,1040,Cairo,Egypt

  • @AkramGhareeb
    @AkramGhareeb Год назад +199

    Such a great video. As I a person Bron in Iraq I was taught the history of ibin al haytham and yet learned new things and a new prospective of his story. This is much appreciated since iraq and the rejoin have been through a lot and became a symbol of war and death. It gives hope that the people of that rejoin could be a pioneer of science, math and art like they once were and regain their legacy as a center of invention and discovery since Ibin al Haytham was born in Basra. Iraq and it was under the Islamic empire

    • @Neoprototype
      @Neoprototype Год назад +12

      Inshallah brother.

    • @aprilmeowmeow
      @aprilmeowmeow Год назад +13

      I never thought about how it must feel to have your country be associated with war and death etc etc :( I'm sorry it's like that

    • @suhailnoor6898
      @suhailnoor6898 Год назад

      ​@@aprilmeowmeow if you live in Muslim countries it's ok, if you live in racust countries like all of western countries then it's a problem

    • @pad8941
      @pad8941 Год назад

      ​@Average man dude no. You need more knowledge as science is growing. If you just have knowledge let say like ibn al haytham in nowadays, it won't be different as the regular high school teenager level of physics. It is undeniable that muslim inventor is amazing at their era, but if you compare today knowledge with their knowledge it wont enough.

    • @s.msadat8383
      @s.msadat8383 Год назад +5

      @@pad8941 maybe he meant knowledges level. As you can say Ibn Al Haytham had more knowledge compared to other people of that time.
      So if that user had more knowledge compared to present day people.

  • @terrafirma5327
    @terrafirma5327 Год назад +229

    My father's PHD is on the History of Science and Technology, Dr. Eric G Swedin. I have learned a lot about what differentiates technique versus method, science versus artisan skill. The steam engine was not made by an understanding of thermodynamics, it was made by trial and error by artisans. It was a crude imitation of science but not true science. Its a really interesting topic and a thought train to ride.

    • @rosolenn
      @rosolenn Год назад +7

      A good point. Science drives technology and technology drives science.

    • @HARRAPANBALL
      @HARRAPANBALL Год назад +1

      Algebra was invented by Indians

    • @-IBI-
      @-IBI- Год назад +3

      ​@RANDOMHARAPAN🙏 Okay, so?
      Al khawarizmi was also a Muslim, who also invented Algorithms.

    • @HARRAPANBALL
      @HARRAPANBALL Год назад +1

      @@-IBI- no Indians invented algorithms before al khawarzmi

    • @-IBI-
      @-IBI- Год назад +3

      @RANDOMHARAPAN🙏 Do you even know how the word 'algorithm' came to be?

  • @greedowins
    @greedowins Год назад +6

    "The Scientific Method" is a label we give to an intuitive process. Feel like I would have known this is how to confirm natural laws (gravity, light, etc.) without any schooling, and that someone wrote it down 1000 years ago, doesn't mean that even pre-humans didn't understand how to build basic understanding of the world by linking cause-effect and seeing that things worked consistently if they were repeated under the same conditions.
    Criticism aside, was a cool bit of non-western history that I'd never heard about.

  • @yanjulio
    @yanjulio Год назад +203

    In my freshman year a professor wanted to showed us how light worked and he built a camera oscura in one classroom. It was mindblowing.

    • @allee3476
      @allee3476 Год назад +19

      Just curious if he mentioned Ibn Al-Haytham?

    • @aquibkhan9385
      @aquibkhan9385 Год назад +2

      Holy crap man, he deserves a raise

    • @AshrafAnam
      @AshrafAnam Год назад +13

      ​@@allee3476 I bet he didn't.

    • @allee3476
      @allee3476 Год назад +16

      @@AshrafAnam I bet you’re right. Likely because he didn’t know, or didn’t feel to give credit where credit was due.

    • @ayoub.3939
      @ayoub.3939 Год назад +21

      ​@@allee3476 you could say bias cuz I remember watching a lecture in the US 2019 at the time islamophobia/anti arab was rampant so the professor minimized the achievement of ibn and glorified the modern western that played role in the development

  • @saifabidalbloushi
    @saifabidalbloushi Год назад +452

    I feel like this topic of "muslims and arabs revolutionized science" has been talked about enough for some people to know that very important innovations came from the arabs, which i appreciate. But its not talked about enough for it to be common knowledge, which it definitely should be. So i appreciate you contributing to this topic, joe. Keep up the good work🤍

    • @monomundo
      @monomundo Год назад +52

      Exactly, a direct link is made between the Greek/Roman Civilizations and the Enlightment, totally omitting the contributions of the Arab civilization. Thank you Joe for putting this into light (pun intended 😊).

    • @farhanpathan2976
      @farhanpathan2976 Год назад +33

      You forgot Persians in Arabic World.

    • @zeepack
      @zeepack Год назад +25

      @Buis Bo But they wrote in Arabic as it was the language of science at the time.

    • @samuraisecretary
      @samuraisecretary Год назад +29

      We (Americans at least) are taught so little that we barely have words to talk about it. "Arab" doesn't cover it, there were people from all over the empire which stretched (at times) from Cordoba to Calcutta. "Middle East" is inherently eurocentric. "Islamic" erases the contributions of other faiths while also failing to give credit to the active efforts by leadership to be a multicultural empire. But you say "Abbasid" to someone and they look at you like you're crazy. 🤷

    • @saifabidalbloushi
      @saifabidalbloushi Год назад +13

      @@zeepack yes but persians aren't arabs

  • @bukanzoro284
    @bukanzoro284 8 месяцев назад +24

    waiting for the Indian comment "Indians discovered that thousands of years ago!!!!!

    • @TheEnderPearl
      @TheEnderPearl 8 месяцев назад +3

      You are the only Indian comment here, might wanna stop the hate and live like a normal person for once?

    • @Sham-zo8mu
      @Sham-zo8mu 4 месяца назад +6

      @@TheEnderPearllol I’ve already seen like 50 comments about this 😂 why don’t you study the history rather then claim everything because it just makes you guys look uneducated

    • @Sham-zo8mu
      @Sham-zo8mu 4 месяца назад +7

      @@TheEnderPearlnobody denies the maths and science that came from India but you guys like to take credit for things that are not Indian.

    • @alphacompany4837
      @alphacompany4837 3 месяца назад

      Abdool battling his non existent Indian enemy

    • @Dagestanwarrior900
      @Dagestanwarrior900 2 месяца назад

      ​@@alphacompany4837lindu paje3t always claim anything 😂

  • @muhammedhalil4694
    @muhammedhalil4694 Год назад +133

    I apperciate your coverage of a scientist who lived in era that is usually fotgotten when it comes to science, but remembered when it is about myths and religion.

    • @arusirham3761
      @arusirham3761 Год назад +3

      Nicely put 👍

    • @Shrimzys_Buttplug
      @Shrimzys_Buttplug Год назад

      @@arusirham3761 wdym nicely put? is it another false news 😕

    • @Solotocius
      @Solotocius Год назад

      ​@@Shrimzys_Buttplugelaborate

    • @Shrimzys_Buttplug
      @Shrimzys_Buttplug Год назад

      @@Solotocius i am just confused whether they are spreading lies or its actually true that people like that existed before.

    • @Solotocius
      @Solotocius Год назад

      @@Shrimzys_Buttplug just search up "Islamic Golden Age"

  • @mvsawyer
    @mvsawyer Год назад +235

    I learned all of this back in 5th and 6th grade science class. Except change the scientist from Al-Haytham to the more Anglo, Newton. Thank you US education!

    • @TheShayanAly
      @TheShayanAly Год назад +8

      Well, We can't thank enough the US 😂

    • @maalikserebryakov
      @maalikserebryakov Год назад +23

      Newton contributed more than the entire Persian golden age combined.
      Don’t get me wrong, lots of science came from the Muslim persians.
      But Newton was on a different level.

    • @eeemuse
      @eeemuse Год назад +113

      @@maalikserebryakov He build on their work, this is how science works. You could say that the "Internet" contributed the most but without the works of those who started with a telegraph...etc..etc. there would be no internet.

    • @lexusrx333
      @lexusrx333 Год назад +55

      @@maalikserebryakov ibn al haytham was Arab

    • @quantinium2027
      @quantinium2027 Год назад

      @@lexusrx333 Arab??? Arabs were against any science! they thought science was a kind of magic! so they banned any kind of activity related to science and would call persians the soccers that should be burnt! cuz they(persians) knew more than the book of Quaran.

  • @aayushshrivastava2072
    @aayushshrivastava2072 Год назад +10

    They invented algebra too......the English reduced the actual word which had a really unique meaning to a boring word like other words in this language. The actual word was " Al jabr ibn muqabala " Which meant competition of equations

    • @pikapi6993
      @pikapi6993 Год назад +1

      Ancient Babylonians invented Algebra, they just called it something else.

  • @erictaylor5462
    @erictaylor5462 Год назад +318

    I discovered the Camera Obscura on my own when I was a child. My parents got a new refrigerator and I got the box. I was surprised to see an up-side-down movie projected onto the wall of the inside of the box. It was totally fascinating. I was even able to work out what was going on.
    Later I saw the camera obscura demonstrated on TV and was delighted to see that I had been right.

    • @besmart
      @besmart  Год назад +58

      This is awesome

    • @erictaylor5462
      @erictaylor5462 Год назад +37

      @@besmart Maybe it makes what the guy did less impressive, if a child could work it out, even if it was thousands of years later.
      Makes you wonder though, how many discoveries like this were lost because the person who made them didn't write it down, or considered it unimportant.

    • @ZizyPvP
      @ZizyPvP Год назад +82

      @@erictaylor5462 discovering something is a thing, experimenting on it and writing books is a different thing

    • @rameezsheikh7576
      @rameezsheikh7576 Год назад +18

      @@erictaylor5462in my childhood i also discovered that my eyes see images from different angles and mix them so i can see world in 3d, but i don't think that does make any difference in 3d t.v./picture discovery less impressive.

    • @erictaylor5462
      @erictaylor5462 Год назад +6

      @@ZizyPvP Yea, that is obvious. What is your point?
      You discover something, then you write about it and explain it. That is how you get credit.
      If you discover something and you don't write it down, no one else will know you discovered it.

  • @storyspren
    @storyspren Год назад +35

    Ibn Al-Haytham: "It's just a river, what's the big deal, I'll just dam it"
    Nile:
    Ibn Al-Haytham: "They come in extra large???"

    • @dilanmukidisi4lanz986
      @dilanmukidisi4lanz986 Год назад +7

      Ibn Al-Haytham: I will do something that people called pro gamers moved *Proceed to fake his insanity*

  • @macsarcule
    @macsarcule Год назад +7

    Awesome video! 😃
    Would love to see a couple that next dive into the importance of the peer review / repeated experimentation by others, and also one on the super important experimental mindset of assuming the null hypothesis.
    Love this channel!

  • @aghosh5447
    @aghosh5447 Год назад +149

    Satyajit Ray, the filmmaker, wrote about this Camera Obscura by Arab Scientists in his story for young adults. Glad for this episode.

    • @sjiszap
      @sjiszap Год назад

      You are talking abount Professor Shongku right?

    • @neonationalist1772
      @neonationalist1772 Год назад

      Interesting

    • @akhanddbangladesh8274
      @akhanddbangladesh8274 Год назад +13

      Satyajit Ray was Bangladeshi.

    • @ManishBailparao
      @ManishBailparao Год назад +17

      ​@@akhanddbangladesh8274the fuq bangaladesh wasn't even a country until 1970s

    • @swapnayan
      @swapnayan Год назад +7

      ​@@akhanddbangladesh8274he ain't a kanglu

  • @ImTHECarlos98
    @ImTHECarlos98 Год назад +95

    I enjoy taking pictures and developing film, and it’s cool how it gives you some intuition about light. A film camera is basically a dark room with a pinhole (Aperture) for the light to go through, and instead of viewing the image on a wall, it projects itself onto a light-sensitive material. In the case of digital cameras, this still applies only instead of using film to capture that image, they use a digital sensor.

    • @Eileen49654
      @Eileen49654 Год назад +2

      Thank you for this amazing, yet simple explanation of how a camera works
      Now I get lt :)

    • @ImTHECarlos98
      @ImTHECarlos98 Год назад +2

      @@Eileen49654 glad I could help.

    • @AbiNubli
      @AbiNubli Год назад +7

      In essence, it is a miniaturization of Haytham's dark room 🤯

  • @JCtheMusicMan_
    @JCtheMusicMan_ Год назад +32

    Great presentation! The moral of the story is, if you want to make ground breaking discoveries you must be locked in a room until you get bored enough to figure something out😁

  • @corysinman
    @corysinman Год назад +146

    I love everything about this video as a scientist and professor. Can’t wait to share this way of seeing the scientific method with my students!

    • @HARRAPANBALL
      @HARRAPANBALL Год назад +2

      Indians invented algebra

    • @Pfyzer
      @Pfyzer Год назад +5

      @@HARRAPANBALL we know that, the indian Muslim mathematician Muhammad son of Musa of Khwarizm (al-khwarizmi).... The man is the most hated person In modern math classes for adding letters into math 🤣🤣🤣

    • @HARRAPANBALL
      @HARRAPANBALL Год назад +3

      @@Pfyzer no Al khawazmi is Persian
      Bramagupta is Indian

    • @MuhammadIsmail-in6vf
      @MuhammadIsmail-in6vf Год назад +11

      ​@@HARRAPANBALL khawarzim is not in india nor algebra invented by indians. The word algebra stems from the Arabic word al-jabr, which has its roots in the title of a 9th century manuscript written by the mathematician Al-Khwarizmi.

    • @HARRAPANBALL
      @HARRAPANBALL Год назад +1

      @@MuhammadIsmail-in6vf no bramagupta invented algebra he is 7the century matamatician
      He is first one to give general formula for algebraic expressions
      And introduced Hindu numerals ,fractions,negative numbers,zero,constants and gave first formula for quadriatic equation
      And gave two solutions for a algebraic equation
      He gave formulas of Sum of squares of n natural numbers n(n + 1)(2n + 1)/6 and sum of cube
      of n natural numbers (n(n + 1)/2)2

  • @AthAthanasius
    @AthAthanasius Год назад +34

    Joe didn't explicitly state it, although it was implied by the animation of the "lanterns test", but such a camera obscura doesn't just invert the image, it also flips it left/right, for exactly the same reason as the inversion.

  • @Pfyzer
    @Pfyzer Год назад +7

    6:10 reminds me of that one guy who jumped from the tallest tower so he could fly using his wing contraption.... man was a madlad only breaking some bones on the way down cuz he forgot one key thing, the tail 💀

  • @loki7679
    @loki7679 Год назад +32

    I am grateful to have a teacher like you....
    Thank you ❤

  • @firdausridzuan4080
    @firdausridzuan4080 Год назад +19

    Ibn Al Haytham did get enlightened in the dark room.

    • @KingTaupCreatives
      @KingTaupCreatives Год назад

      Though in that dark room light plays an important for the success of his experiment

  • @TeaParty1776
    @TeaParty1776 9 месяцев назад +3

    Aristotle discovered scientific method in his Posterior Analytics and applied as the first science in his biology. Darwin said he was the best biologist. Arabs (Muslims?) were influenced by Aristotle in the 7th-11th centuries.
    The Lagoon-Armond Leroi
    Aristotles Philosophy Of Biology-James Lennox

  • @riddhichakraborty4890
    @riddhichakraborty4890 Год назад +159

    This video will serve to be a very important one for a lot of students out there, including me who are in pursuit of science and are striving in the science field. Thank you very much Dr Joe. I'm sharing this with my juniors, seniors and teachers and whoever should listen to this. 🙏🙏

    • @777Skeptic
      @777Skeptic Год назад +8

      Take both a philosophy, logic, and philosophy of science (which is a course all in itself). As the video says, science isn't just knowing facts, but knowing the nuances that demarcates science from pseudoscience.

    • @MichaelFJ1969
      @MichaelFJ1969 Год назад

      I would have liked a mention of Karl Popper and the idea of falsification. I.e. that the way you test a hypothesis is by trying to prove it *wrong*, and that a good scientific theory must be falsifiable.

  • @Fundamental_Islam.
    @Fundamental_Islam. Год назад +131

    “I constantly sought knowledge and truth, and it became my belief that for gaining access to the effulgence and closeness to God, there is no better way than that of searching for truth and knowledge.” -Ibn Al Haytham
    Something we have forgotten in this godless age 😪

    • @zhinkunakur4751
      @zhinkunakur4751 Год назад +9

      do you realize that the quote that you just quoted instantly contradicted what you said ironically instead of proving your point ?

    • @Fundamental_Islam.
      @Fundamental_Islam. Год назад +5

      @@zhinkunakur4751 how?

    • @zhinkunakur4751
      @zhinkunakur4751 Год назад +1

      @@Fundamental_Islam.I think you have stated a ill informed conclusion that you have reached by yourself , thus not practicing what you are preaching , where I come and reply with a doubt thus trying to practice what you tried to preach , I could be wrong but I am fairly confident about the amount by which I have unintentionally followed the scientific method is more than the op's , if you disagree , I would love that but also love some valid arguments to match the competence . GD

    • @maalikserebryakov
      @maalikserebryakov Год назад +1

      This quote is fake Lol
      Ibn al Haytham never said this

    • @Fundamental_Islam.
      @Fundamental_Islam. Год назад +17

      @@maalikserebryakov really? You asked him?

  • @mokim9970
    @mokim9970 Год назад +7

    I feel bad for Baghdad from their Golden age to worst , just why , at that time , (Baghdad Golden age ), Baghdad was the center of the world in science , literature ، and art , and a give great scientists that change the world like Alkhawarizmi the father of Algebra , and Algorithm

  • @nerd_alert927
    @nerd_alert927 Год назад +57

    The inserts of comedy in your videos is awesome. It makes learning so fun!

  • @STEELZYX
    @STEELZYX Год назад +3

    "Taught humanity what they knew not." Surah Al-Alaq.

  • @onetribezen3945
    @onetribezen3945 Год назад +14

    Excellent video! All those people deserve recognition and credit. Something to think about...the scientific method is actually "built in" to nature. Without the ability to detect/observe, make and remember a choice, and then later learn from a bad choice or repeat a good or better choice, nothing could propagate itself. Plants, animals and early humans have been doing these things since they started to exist (and yes, plants do "behave" by avoiding things that are harmful to them and being attracted to things that are good for their survival, like growing towards sunlight). The earliest humans had to observe what they were hunting, test different techniques, abandon those that didn't work and perfect those that did. Same thing a pack of wolves had to do to survive. Nature is "running experiments" all the time. In that sense, the "scientific method" is as old as nature itself. Thanks for the great video!

    • @PM2022
      @PM2022 9 месяцев назад

      And that's another way to say that there is nothing exclusive in it nor is there in 'science' as this video and dominant popular publications, including academic histories, keep repeating.

    • @onetribezen3945
      @onetribezen3945 9 месяцев назад

      @@PM2022 Yes, "Nothing exclusive" is the entire point. There is no such thing as supernatural. Everything in the universe is just nature.

  • @FRISHR
    @FRISHR Год назад +17

    2:20 bro I laughed too much at the thought of a Ruler of Egypt banishing an eggplant🤣

  • @waltbroedner4754
    @waltbroedner4754 9 месяцев назад +2

    Sir Isaac Newton, the famous English scientist, once said, “If I have seen further, it is by standing on the shoulders of giants.” Of course, Newton wasn't literally standing on the shoulders of giants. Newton was explaining that his ideas didn't come from him alone. He relied on the ideas of those who came before him.

  • @spitfirerulz
    @spitfirerulz Год назад +60

    I'm very glad we are finally acknowledging the role played by Islamic scientists and philosophers in the history of human knowledge. Similarly, I look forward to the day when we recognise the pre-eminence of other non-Mediterranean cultures and the sophistication of their methods of investigation (e.g. ancient Indian and Chinese medicine, astronomy, geometry, combinatorics, probability, engineering, chemistry, philosophy of mind etc.). Philosophy did not originate in ancient Greece. It originated independently in Greece AND India AND China AND Egypt AND Africa AND...

    • @MSS-nt9ko
      @MSS-nt9ko Год назад +5

      I think Chinese philosophy is recognized by the world. Everyone knows or has atleast heard of Confucius, Sun Tzu, Art of War etc…
      If hindu culture has any written records of this claimed greatness, other than mere extrapolations by RSS/BJP group(which controls hinduism and Hindu society), then please bring it forth. In fact it would be famous by now. Hindu contribution is recognized where due.
      Also unlike its animosity with the Muslim world, West has had no problem with hindus and treats hinduism with kid gloves. I am sure there are more gems from your culture but if it was really that outstanding then it wouldn’t be unrecognized.
      I really wish common hindus don’t parrot bjp rss talking points, but they do unfortunately!

    • @spitfirerulz
      @spitfirerulz Год назад +12

      @@MSS-nt9ko the problem is not to be trivialised. Having heard vaguely of Sun Tzu shouldn't cut it. Academic philosophy needs to engage substantially with Mozi, Mengzi, Kongfuzi and Chuangzi and what they've actually said in SO many domains of immediate relevance to the world today. Speaking of my own areas of expertise (population ethics, AI, propositional logic and philosophy of causality) there is pitifully little engagement I see in mainstream papers and journals. It is also routine for books to say silly things like "the origins of philosophy can be traced back to Ancient Greece" (literally a textbook a read today).
      I didn't say Hindu culture, I said Indian. Ancient Indian philosophy includes a vast and incredibly sophisticated treatment of logic, epistemology and axiology by the Buddhists and Jainas, along with "Hindu" schools like Samkhya (which informs much of subsequent Advaita). I suggest we all look past what the BJP/RSS say, since I have zero interest in that. I care about what ancient cognitive philosophers like Panini and Bhartrhari have said, the implications of which we haven't quite understood, because it has largely been ignored in Western academia (there are exceptions like Chomsky who very briefly credits Panini's Asthadhyayi as being the first recorded attempt in history at formulating his theory of generative grammar). I care about what huge Abhidhamma Pitaka says about qualia and how it could inform our urgent study of whether Large Language Models (LLM) experience phenomenology. I personally care about theories of causality and am currently studying how Indian philosophy approaches the topic. They may well have answers to major problems in my field, and I am simply unsatisfied with Kant's attempt to reinvent this wheel millennia later. And the list goes on.
      This is not to say Indians invented and knew everything. Of course not. I am simply saying that if we are serious as academics, we shouldn't believe only Ancient Greeks produced any work worth studying. Academia is wonderful, but far from perfect. Great ideas routinely go unnoticed for decades and decades until someone points it out. I hope for a brighter future for my fields in Computer Science!

    • @MSS-nt9ko
      @MSS-nt9ko Год назад +4

      @@spitfirerulz thanks for your reply. I agree. All the best.

    • @cinema6444
      @cinema6444 Год назад

      @@MSS-nt9ko by labelling every indian rss/ bjp you are displaying your anti indian bias. he didnt even mention religion still you displaying your hinduism hatred. AS for extremism the worst the hindus have is bjp. as for muslim world the worst cases of extremism are found in likes of isis, taliban. its not a comparison.
      imagine if someone labelled you to be parrotting isis talking points. that is not cool. disingenuous trolling attempt.
      if you really dont know how indian buddhist philosophy was appreaciated by central, east, southeast asia. either you are troll else you have severse lack of knowledge.

    • @cinema6444
      @cinema6444 Год назад +2

      its common sense that western perspective focuses on cultures in close contact with them i.e. middle east and Mediterranean and ignores farther cultures. theres not even a debate. it also wrongly attributes knowledge which came from further east of india, china to middle east just because europe received it from middle east with no knowledge where it came from.

  • @2012turk
    @2012turk Год назад +191

    a fun fact, Ibn Al-Haytham called this dark room " Qumrah " which means the closed dark room, it is believed that the word "camera" originated from that word.

    • @Arinaramilo
      @Arinaramilo Год назад +11

      In Latin, "camera" means "chamber" or "room." The word "camera" is derived from the Latin phrase "camera obscura," which means "dark chamber."

    • @KingTaupCreatives
      @KingTaupCreatives Год назад +9

      ​@@Arinaramilo Qumra or Camera is well suited... what is the Latin world for camera?

    • @Arinaramilo
      @Arinaramilo Год назад +2

      @@KingTaupCreatives camera!

    • @KingTaupCreatives
      @KingTaupCreatives Год назад +5

      @@Arinaramilo its camera obscura its two word

    • @KingTaupCreatives
      @KingTaupCreatives Год назад +9

      @@Arinaramilo camera can definitely derived from Qumra.

  • @user-k229
    @user-k229 Год назад +9

    Thanks so much for uncovering this hidden truth.
    I now wish that Science and Math classes in the West, especially in the UK, where I live, would let students know this truth also. Make it part of the curriculum!

  • @marvin_rubia
    @marvin_rubia Год назад +15

    Science taught us that nature is comprehensible, experiments taught us how to find truths, and the scientific community taught us how to improve from criticism.

    • @PM2022
      @PM2022 9 месяцев назад

      Nope. 'Science' is not a creature that could do anything. You check your wild creative personifications, please.

  • @1TrueGem
    @1TrueGem Год назад +5

    'Why' is a philosophical question, 'how' is the scientific question.
    Good video. It was interesting to learn. Thanks.

  • @GustavoSilva-ny8jc
    @GustavoSilva-ny8jc Год назад +19

    The way this went full circle was masterful. The way we in the west grow up hearing about newton and Einstein and none of the east guys is a crime, for most of my life they basically didn't exist and had zero contribution in the past.

    • @antoniousai1989
      @antoniousai1989 Год назад +3

      It's a problem with your school system. I'm Italian and of course, we study the contribution of the Arab Renaissance in preserving Ellinistic material, elaborate on it, and disseminate it in Europe by passing through Spain.

    • @leonfrancis3418
      @leonfrancis3418 9 месяцев назад

      Just wait till you discover the myths you were told about Greek philopshy and medicine.

    • @GustavoSilva-ny8jc
      @GustavoSilva-ny8jc 9 месяцев назад

      @@leonfrancis3418 oh boy, you have no idea, but 1st answer is right, my education was particularly bad and not the norm. Philosophy is basically a foreign language where i live and medicine is full of hearsay (which is maddening. One of the reasons why im so obssessed with medicine now. You actually touched on 2 of my favorite topics)

  • @Lowenaaa
    @Lowenaaa Год назад +43

    Not enough knowledge of Arabian scientifics, thank you for that ! Now im onmy way to imprint his name into my head, Ibn al-Haytham, ibn all haytham...

    • @comradekenobi6908
      @comradekenobi6908 Год назад

      If you want to know more, you could search up Muslim Golden Ave
      Without them the knowledge of the ancient classics would not have survived, and Europe wouldn't achieve tons of scientific breakthrough

    • @abirbinhabib7669
      @abirbinhabib7669 Год назад +10

      He's one of many, we got father of modern medicine, astronomy, psychology etc.. Muslims were basically the foundation of modern science of today

    • @maalikserebryakov
      @maalikserebryakov Год назад +3

      @@abirbinhabib7669
      L
      this is real muslim science.
      propet muhammad discovered how the seasons work 1400 years ago. subhan allah:
      “Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "The (Hell) Fire complained to its Lord saying, 'O my Lord! My different parts eat up each other.' So, He allowed it to take two breaths, one in the winter and the other in summer, and this is the reason for the severe heat and the bitter cold you find (in weather).
      *[ Sahih al Bukhari 3260 ]*
      masha allah. 😂😂😂

    • @frankmark787
      @frankmark787 Год назад +1

      @maalikserebryakov Keep crying 😂😂😂

    • @griveouswithhislightsabers3665
      @griveouswithhislightsabers3665 Год назад

      ​@@maalikserebryakov "Baydawi (1319) argues that the point of such comparisons is to remind people of the hereafter. He holds that beautiful things of this life give insight into the comfort and happiness of Paradise, and causes people to incline towards and want it. In the same vein, the difficult, painful and harmful aspects of this life are a sample of the horrors of the fire and its punishment. This causes people to fear it, and to hold back from anything that could lead them to it.
      Severe heat and severe cold - that people stay away from in this life - should therefore remind people of the punishment of the fire, some of which will be in the form of both, and cause them to attempt to stay away from it as well."

  • @OneMegaPiece
    @OneMegaPiece Год назад +46

    Have you ever learned of Imam Jafar as Sadiq’s contributions to science and education? He alone taught 40 subjects in the first university of 4,000 students in Madina. Among his students are Jabir bin Hayan who is the father of chemistry and Khwarizimi and ibn Sina

    • @jasonwhite7677
      @jasonwhite7677 Год назад +7

      And now their only contribution to the world is misery.

    • @HMJKS2000
      @HMJKS2000 Год назад +25

      @@jasonwhite7677 And yours is hate

    • @rohifrlqshinx5222
      @rohifrlqshinx5222 Год назад

      @@jasonwhite7677 mainstream media victims detected!

    • @jasonwhite7677
      @jasonwhite7677 Год назад +4

      @@HMJKS2000 you guys taught me that.

    • @mightytitan1719
      @mightytitan1719 Год назад +5

      father of chemistry lol , dont give titles on your own

  • @rijadkaric55
    @rijadkaric55 Год назад +1

    imagine turning away from a project that at the time seems massive and undoable, believing you could lose your head, just to be have your biggest revelation in the aftermath of rejecting it.
    It seems like if you're meant to be great, you'll always find greatness

  • @djallalnamri1
    @djallalnamri1 Год назад +5

    Years ago (in the 80s I think), I was sitting in the kitchen reading.
    the house faces north-south and the south wall is a blind wall (without openings of any kind) so the house never receives sunlight inside.
    it was a house built during the French colonial period.
    the settler who built it may have feared he would tan and end up looking like the natives.
    I read while facing the blind wall.
    I had my back to the door which faced north and on this door hung a dark blue canvas curtain.
    daylight entered the kitchen through a gap between the wooden door frame and the dark blue canvas curtain.
    the kitchen walls were painted white.
    at some point i see shapes and colors on the wall to my right and these colored shapes even seemed to move.
    it was 3:16 p.m., I remember because I had immediately marked the time on a piece of paper.
    I saw that it was happening at the very place where the light coming from outside hit the wall and each movement of the curtain blurred the reflection on the wall.
    and the more I prevented the curtain from moving, the sharper the image.
    it wasn't until I left the kitchen to go to the common courtyard of the building that I finally realized that what I saw on the wall was in fact a reflection of
    the neighbour's laundry drying in the sun.
    this laundry was hanging on a wire to my right (so to the east).
    moreover the reflection was upside down.
    that was before I read anything about Ibn Al Haytham (a friend's son is called Haytham) and the history of the darkroom (camera).

  • @Farooqueakhan
    @Farooqueakhan Год назад +15

    Great story 👌👌👌. Though I'd read about Ibn Al-Hytham, his contribution to Optics, and his Scientific Method, but your presentation made it so interesting to listen to it, refreshing and inviting to think deeply about Science. Thank you. 👍👍👍

    • @HARRAPANBALL
      @HARRAPANBALL Год назад +1

      Indians invented algebra

    • @Farooqueakhan
      @Farooqueakhan Год назад

      @@HARRAPANBALL Number system with base 10, yes, and quite possibly a few things more. Some of them may be in parallel with the others. However, today's Hindutva cohorts claim everything was invented in India. An joker PM, claiming to have a degree that turns out fake, goes to the extent of taking the credit for the invention of Plastic Surgery -- attaching an elephant's head to a human body :) :) :), and internet, and aeroplanes, and many more things ... :) :) :)

    • @MAlbi-ib6mg
      @MAlbi-ib6mg Год назад

      ​@@HARRAPANBALL 😂😂😂

    • @HARRAPANBALL
      @HARRAPANBALL Год назад

      @@MAlbi-ib6mg search baskara and arya bhatta

    • @HARRAPANBALL
      @HARRAPANBALL Год назад

      @@MAlbi-ib6mg al khawrazmi mentioned he took knowledge from India

  • @Hdyvyh
    @Hdyvyh Год назад +2

    ﴿أَفَلا يَنظُرونَ إِلَى الإِبِلِ كَيفَ خُلِقَت ۝ وَإِلَى السَّماءِ كَيفَ رُفِعَت ۝ وَإِلَى الجِبالِ كَيفَ نُصِبَت ۝ وَإِلَى الأَرضِ كَيفَ سُطِحَت﴾ [الغاشية: ١٧-٢٠]
    English Translation:
    (17) Then do they not look at the camels - how they are created?
    (18) And at the sky - how it is raised?
    (19) And at the mountains - how they are erected?
    (20) And at the earth - how it is spread out?
    Actually, the scientific method & the great scientific renaissance came from the divine revelation.

  • @darthchait
    @darthchait Год назад +4

    Science described as being the enemy of facts is a great perspective, we are always trying to disprove our knowledge so that we know it’s true, and we never give something absolute certainty

  • @MissesWitch
    @MissesWitch Год назад +35

    this was really amazing

  • @MSS-nt9ko
    @MSS-nt9ko Год назад +25

    Off all people commenting here from all cultures and countries only people from India calling themselves hindus or tanatanis have a problem with this video. Why is this religion so jealous of others?

    • @physicsstudent9701
      @physicsstudent9701 Год назад

      Their obsession with muslims is at next level

    • @lastword8783
      @lastword8783 8 месяцев назад +6

      They have a superiority complex.

    • @devamjani8041
      @devamjani8041 4 месяца назад +4

      Because people wrongly acknowledge many Indian contributions as arabic just because that knowledge got to Europe via the middle East. Here also, algebra the word does come from translation of Arabic word but most of contributions to algebra were made in India or Greece. The contributions made by the arabs was itself based on what Indians or Greeks before then contributed, so giving the credit for the entire field of algebra to "them" is factually wrong.

  • @joaodecarvalho7012
    @joaodecarvalho7012 Год назад +4

    2:47 - _In a camera obscura, the image projected from the outside world is flipped upside down, which must have looked pretty strange to somebody a thousand years ago. In fact, it looks pretty strange today too._
    Indeed.

  • @april147
    @april147 Год назад +4

    Wow! That book is a gem! I wonder if we can find any copy of this book at present! Thank you for making this video!

  • @msb8925
    @msb8925 Год назад +3

    One more thing you did not mention on Ibn Al Haytham is that he was the inventor of the term "critical thinking". That term first appear in the literature in Ibn Al Haytham book criticising Ptolmy's scientific method; I dont remember the title of that book now.

  • @Blackbirdz2000
    @Blackbirdz2000 Год назад +8

    #besmart he did build that dam though.......its the Egypt's Aswan dam. The oldest known dam which also is still operational.
    He did the recce and chose that location as being more suitable for dam building as well.
    Also btw he did build optics too, not just worked/research abt them. He used that usual sand baking method to build lenses. Concave/Convex lenses were also his inventions. You didn't divulged deep into his works just relieved on only 1 book. He has written a lot more books too on the subject. His work was also used in those binoculars those North African pirates used in Mediterranean later aka renegades for example......Also those ancient Muslim Scholars of astronomy also used to study stars/star gazing, and planets used to do so by early telescopes which were also build using his books and works in the field.

  • @Rubrickety
    @Rubrickety Год назад +23

    Ibn al-Haytham was so dedicated to his research that he tricked a guard, knocked him out, escaped from his cell, then set up some lamps and went back in again.

  • @zS39SBT4fe5Zp8Q
    @zS39SBT4fe5Zp8Q 9 месяцев назад +3

    It's about time ibn al Haitham got some recognition

  • @rosolenn
    @rosolenn Год назад +8

    Thanks for this, Joe. This video is really good, and the topic is really important. Simplified though it is, I looked for errors, even incorrect nuances, and your video is exactly right historically and philosophically. Interestingly, the idea that you need evidence (facts) as well as theory is supposed to be a cornerstone of western psychology, economics, law, government policy making, and journalism. It often isn't. The current societal crises in the western world are often a result of a making up or ignoring evidence to suit personal agendas.

  • @azrulashraf00
    @azrulashraf00 Год назад +3

    According to all AC game I've played, Hassan ibn Al-Haytham was an assassin.

  • @bryanbryan9964
    @bryanbryan9964 Год назад +1

    “Science is often looked at, and often taught like it’s a collection of facts; but that’s not really what it is. Science as a practice, as a verb, asks us to be enemies of facts.”

  • @dekumarademosater2762
    @dekumarademosater2762 Год назад +14

    I've heard about a Latin translation of an Arabic book on optics kicking around Italy a little before those Italians started drawing and painting in rigorous perspective. Wonder if it's related...

    • @StellaratorAI
      @StellaratorAI Год назад +6

      Read the book "Stealing from the Saracens" by Diana Darke

    • @zackbro4886
      @zackbro4886 Год назад

      arab translate from greek.. then latin translate from arab.. all foundation of science and.math is from greek.. greek people is god choosen people

    • @supremercommonder
      @supremercommonder Год назад +7

      Greek got it from the Persians, Indians and China kept their discoveries to them selves. The Islamic world unified the collective world knowledge

    • @antoniousai1989
      @antoniousai1989 Год назад +1

      Indeed, for example, I was reading a couple of days ago about how Fibonacci brought the modern number system to Europe after visiting northern Africa and studying there. Of course, the "Arab" numerals we them too taken from another civilization, in India. People keep representing the Middle Ages full of ignorant people, and magically Europeans became geniuses during the Renaissance ROFL

    • @supremercommonder
      @supremercommonder Год назад +1

      @@antoniousai1989 india number system looked a lot different to what the Arabs did with them. Plus the Indians didn’t use decimal space or do anything with algebra literally the west used Muslim medical books to develop there own. Scientific method created by Muslims ect

  • @n0tourist
    @n0tourist Год назад +5

    you should do an episode on "logic" , most people use the word but have no idea of its full meaning

    • @jeremias-serus
      @jeremias-serus Год назад +2

      Does anyone truly have a full understanding of the λόγος? 😅😅 This channel is moreso about pop science, not really philosophy.

  • @tenderious99
    @tenderious99 Год назад +1

    "Curiosity + creativity + philosophy will bring human to another level."

  • @Optimistichumanist
    @Optimistichumanist Год назад +10

    Fantastic episode. I thank our ancestors all the time for their courage to blaze trails that spawned privilege’s we enjoy today. We truly do stand on the backs of giants! Also, other than the foundations of the scientific method, there is another over arching lesson which is that we all grow stronger when we learn from earth other. In a world so divided, we must remove the best of us came from all of us!

  • @iiculer
    @iiculer Год назад +3

    Also great names in the golden Islamic era have changed the history of scince and philosophy such as al-Biruni, al-Farabi, Ibn Sina, al-Ma'arri, Ibn Hayyan, Rumi, Ibn al-Nafis and lodes more...

  • @Amin_2k
    @Amin_2k Год назад +1

    I was in the back of a van that was very dark, but i could see the outside world like it was projected on the wall on the inside of the Van. One of the most surreal things i have every witnessed. I only now realized the phenomena behind it, and thinking back the van probably had a very small hole somewhere in the wall.

  • @greenhorntenderfoot9261
    @greenhorntenderfoot9261 Год назад +6

    I made a camera obscura with my uncle out of his bedroom using a piece of roofing tar paper over the window. We then used a pinhole camera inside the room to capture the image from the walls.

  • @djayjp
    @djayjp Год назад +33

    So many forget that a single study isn't science; it's when the results are independently replicated that we can call it such.

    • @arusirham3761
      @arusirham3761 Год назад +3

      Nicely put 👍

    • @ETS186
      @ETS186 Год назад +3

      It is part of scientific method though

    • @djayjp
      @djayjp Год назад +2

      @@ETS186 Doing a single, one-off study with results that are not independently reproduced (or not attempted to be reproduced), is actually contrary to the scientific method.

    • @azeemsoona
      @azeemsoona Год назад +1

      @@arusirham3761 desperate? Poor you

  • @Mish_Da_Mash
    @Mish_Da_Mash 9 месяцев назад +1

    Most consider Aristotle as the first scientist - in an absolute sense. In the fourth century B.C., Aristotle gave unprecedented theories and developed ideas that shape scientific logic and observation as we know it today

  • @hammohamed4790
    @hammohamed4790 Год назад +10

    so the light of science started in a dark room

  • @Victor-tl4dk
    @Victor-tl4dk Год назад +2

    They kept grilling it into us.
    Elementary school, middle school, even a little in high school.
    Each time as if it were the first. For me it felt like isn't this the obvious ideal way in an ideal world?????????
    It was ridiculous.

  • @Macrocompassion
    @Macrocompassion Год назад +2

    Having learned about the pin-hole camera, As a child, I built one for myself using a shoe-box and a sheet of semi-transparent paper. Its easy to arrange and the results are a very good way to find how one can discover things--try it!

  • @StellaratorAI
    @StellaratorAI Год назад +5

    Read the book "Stealing from the Saracens" by Diana Darke

  • @1969kodiakbear
    @1969kodiakbear Год назад +5

    science is wonderful. By the way, I have difficulty communicating because I had a stroke in Broca’s area, the part of the brain that controls speech. 2/8/2021 but I lived again. (My wife helped me compose this.)

    • @Argentvs
      @Argentvs Год назад +2

      If that's true hats off to you mate. Keep it up.

  • @blyatpotato9484
    @blyatpotato9484 Год назад +2

    I thank you from the bottom of my heart my good sir for recognizing one of the greatest inventors in the Islamic golden age that is the Father of all lenses Al haitham and not actually saying that it's from some European guy a couple hundred years later

  • @General_studies_by_ARD
    @General_studies_by_ARD Год назад +5

    I am little disappointed as western media never appreciated ancient Indian mathematical and astronomical discoveries. 😢

    • @pseudojabir1136
      @pseudojabir1136 Год назад

      ​@Entertainment 😊 true

    • @sushil6509
      @sushil6509 Год назад

      They will
      Are we ourselves learning bout them in schools yet?

    • @sushil6509
      @sushil6509 Год назад

      ​@Entertainment 😊 Grow up kiddo

  • @JoJo-mj8wr
    @JoJo-mj8wr Год назад +23

    "Egyptians and Babylonians would explain everything with myths" Greek also had myths about how the sun rise or how lightning is created. It's interesting that you gave Pythagoras as an example while his Philosophy was learned from his time in Egypt.

  • @aliyaspahic
    @aliyaspahic Год назад +2

    Another addition to your science related facts;
    Abu Barakat Ibn Al Malik Al Baghdadi discovered The Laws Of motion, 5 centuries prior to Newton.
    Abu Rayhan Al Biruni discovered Gravity 6 centuries before Newton.

  • @LuizFelipe-lk1hs
    @LuizFelipe-lk1hs Год назад +19

    The Islamic Golden Age is one of the most important moments in history that is often forgotten because Europeans didn't want Muslims to be recognised for their efforts.

  • @loki7679
    @loki7679 Год назад +11

    Could you please make a video on the topic "electricity" but in context of biology and the nervous system....

    • @ThePastelAssassin
      @ThePastelAssassin Год назад +2

      I believe they've covered that. Link to video is here: ruclips.net/video/UZthGjcuTDs/видео.html

  • @Amijaycookery
    @Amijaycookery 8 месяцев назад +1

    Fun fact: the earliest of the Greeks pionneers were students of the Nubian/Kemet civilization which they have affirmed several times in their written works.

  • @BlakeLeasure
    @BlakeLeasure Год назад +52

    “The church wasn’t that into science” 😂 I forgot this channel is meant to help educate children. But I mean you’re not wrong

    • @besmart
      @besmart  Год назад +19

      ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    • @afiffarhati4580
      @afiffarhati4580 Год назад +11

      wasn't the church credited for keeping and ammassing/preserving anciant knowledge (roman/greek) , its just that they didn't share it?

    • @BlakeLeasure
      @BlakeLeasure Год назад

      @@afiffarhati4580 that could be very well true. I was more getting at the general conflict between church/organized religion and the scientific community when they generally reject or dismiss new scientific discoveries in lieu of their own religious texts. But again, you are probably right with that particular example.

    • @starcapture3040
      @starcapture3040 Год назад +7

      @@afiffarhati4580 Nope they destroyed them majoraly

    • @drnoaf3
      @drnoaf3 Год назад +19

      @@afiffarhati4580 those books were saved,reviewed, tried and improved by the Muslim empire from which European churches stole those books during the crusades and still kept them hidden till few priests got interested and then got jailed/beheaded for using “Muslim knowledge”

  • @noahgettle8978
    @noahgettle8978 Год назад +4

    Love this. The 'Scientific Method' is super important for explaining why just going around trying something is different from 'science'. That said I distinctly remember an essay I wrote while a PhD student in a philosophy of science class in which I I invoked this so called 'Scientific Method'. Being one of the few natural scientists in the class I needed to be corrected. The Scientific Method is a construct I learned in grade school but which I had assumed to be correct. I am an evolutionary biologist who uses modern techniques such as experimental evolution and comparative genomics to understand evolutionary patterns. The former does allow me to use the 'Scientific Method' while the latter not so much. Indeed, for most organisms not readily amenable to lab culture (from dinoflagellates to whales) experimentation is literally impossible, Indeed, many of your astronomy examples did not experiment because it is impossible to experiment with the night sky. Having been such an early disillusioned scientist I think it is important to highlight that science is done in a variety of ways (outside of the 'Scientific Method', think paleontology, geology, phylogenormics, etc.) . The true scientific method is simply 'Viewing the evidence, Forming a hypothesis, Examining the hypothesis in light of new evidence." The evidence doesn't and simply can't always come from experimentation. If scientists followed and only accepted "The Scientific Method" we would not trust Galileo, Copernicus, Newton, or even Eintstein,. None of the experimentation these scientists did was experimental in the a 'Scientific Sense.' Indeed, Darwins convincing Origin of Species did not at all conform to the scientific ideal of the Scientific Method'. I think it much better to portray this thing, ie. 'The Scientific Method'', as a construct. An ideal all scientists wish they could use but realistically few can.

    • @astroflyinsights
      @astroflyinsights Год назад

      Isn't this just sometimes inductive, sometimes deductive reasoning that you mean?

    • @Darpan-Majumdar
      @Darpan-Majumdar 8 месяцев назад

      That is so true. Are there any books you studied which helped you in gaining clarity ' of various scientific methods' ?

  • @dansketch4603
    @dansketch4603 Год назад +2

    Al haytam didn't have gaming setup or internet in his room. But he came up with inventions. Now look at ourselves.

  • @Soul-Demon-Y
    @Soul-Demon-Y Год назад +4

    Keep on making thease great quality content guys👍 I'll support your patreon when I will start earning

  • @K1R4SH1KE1
    @K1R4SH1KE1 Год назад +11

    My science fair project in the sixth grade was on a camera obscure. My dad helped my build it with a box you put over your head. Unfortunately, I didn't win anything. My hypothesis is that my science teacher who hated me for some reason (I'm being serious, I have no idea why she hated me so much), her husband was one of the judges, had something to do with it. My mom is a teacher so I know how much they talk about bad students some times lol. It was a fun experiment all in all...
    I like chemistry :D

    • @hariharpuri1362
      @hariharpuri1362 Год назад +4

      That is bloody long comment 😅

    • @K1R4SH1KE1
      @K1R4SH1KE1 Год назад +1

      @@hariharpuri1362 Usually it’s longer, but I’d didn’t have enough time so ye lol

    • @mfs96
      @mfs96 Год назад +3

      Now I know why your teacher hates you. Maybe you troll her too much. 😂

    • @K1R4SH1KE1
      @K1R4SH1KE1 Год назад

      @@mfs96 Dude, I never pulled anything in her class! If I did, she’d blow a gasket! Or she’d tell my mom since they worked together, but she said she talked to my mom one time but the response she gave was very uncharacteristic of my mother. I don’t know at this point T_T

  • @Macrocompassion
    @Macrocompassion Год назад +1

    The scientific method is based in getting interested in a new phenomenon, developing an hypothesis and then testing it by experimentation. It does not stop here because when differences are found between the theory and the results of the experiment, a better theory must result and a more satisfactory and accurate explanation found. Consequently, the greater amount of knowledge that is discovered, the more that is found to need better explanation.

  • @binodpaudel7387
    @binodpaudel7387 Год назад +4

    Your videos are delight to watch.