Geeta Press is a पाखंड, it hasn't done anymore than doing पाखंड and corrupting Sanatana Dharma. mostly the books they sell are mixed versions of British. not a single book they sell is from original translation. i have read Shiv Puran & also have Vishnu puran purchased last year, believe me there's nothing but bullshit. to clear the confusion read it by yourself
@@ashamednature3339 Stop copy pasting in every comment like an idiotic moron, without proper evidence to show. I have brought all the Upanishads from Gita Press and at my home we also have Shiva Purana and they perfectly fine and understandable. There is not one translator in Gita Press, there are several scholars who do translation, and each is published separately. They also do the translation of different commentaries as well, the commentaries that have been done by Adi Shankharacharya, Abhinavguapta, Madhavacharya etc. And to understand any Sanskrit text even if its translation, one needs to have prior knowledge of the texts, what they are about to expect, the other works of the commentator on which his works his based on, for eg: Vedanta or Kashimiri Shaivism or Advaita etc. In several cases you just can't pick up a text and start reading and expect to understand everything, one needs to understand the context and the foundation on which the texts are based.
@@ashwaryp I'll copy past it everywhere until the bastards stop corrupting Sanatana Dharma. tell me what absolute conclusion you've got by reading purans? if you think Shiv Puran is absolute then you're just living in fantasies, it's nothing more than lollipops of getting Moxa. i can't say about उपनिषद् as i haven't read it but people who care about truth won't even dare to publish these fake purans and misled.
It isn't like that bro. When you learn Sanskrit, you have to study the translations. Imagine if the standard translation is Goldman's. Then what a sanskrit word means will also be Goldman's translation.
Geeta Press is a पाखंड, it hasn't done anymore than doing पाखंड and corrupting Sanatana Dharma. mostly the books they sell are mixed versions of British. not a single book they sell is from original translation. i have read Shiv Puran & also have Vishnu puran purchased last year, believe me there's nothing but bullshit. to clear the confusion read it by yourself
Girvid SHRI ! I agree with you ..All translations aside... THE ORIGINAL SANSKRUT BHAASHA ME, JUB ORIGINAL GRANTH HUM AATMA_SAAT KAREIN , AUR RUG RUG ME JEEYEIN, TAB, SAARTHAK HOTA HAI JEEWAN...Jai Shri Ram, Jai Shri Krishna ... pollock aur uske jaise bahut aire -gairon ka Sanskrut translations bhi ek-apne-tarfi,swaarthi vichar-dhaara ka prachaar maatra hai... Sanatan Dharma se un sub ka koi sarokar nahin .
True kumar saiesh rane.BIASED, APNE-SWAARTHI-EK-TARFI-VICHAR-PRACHAAR MAATRA...Therefore, Keep all translations aside and , as Girvid Shri and Anubhavi Sanatanis Suggest, that THE ORIGINAL SANSKRUT GRANTHAS SHOULD BE STUDIED AND ABSORBED ONLY BY STUDYING IN IT'S AUTHENTIC, CHASTE ,SAMSKRUTAM..(JISE AATMASAAT KARNA HUM KEHTE HAIN) .. SRIMAD BHAGAWAD GEETA PAARAAYAN, JO HUME APNE AATMA SE JODE RAKHTA HAI. YEH HUI POSITIVE=SAKAARAATMAK BAAT.Humari saari ki saari, (including Dakshini Bhashayein BHI) Sanskrut ki hi Beti-Bahena hain.. (madrase me kya karte hain ? arbi me quran rut-rutakar hi , hum kafiron ko khatma karne ki namaz padhayi jaati hai.. koi bhi, un arbi lafzon ke matlab nahin samajhta..par RADICALIZE-BRAIN-WASH JAROOR HO JAATA HAI.. BHARATIYA Sanskrut-Sanskruti me koi aisi baat nahin, jo Bhagawad Geeta ko padhne se, kisika brain-wash karke use nasht-bhrasht karta ho AUR SAARI KAAYANAT KO KHATMA KARNA SIKHATA HO ! You have your solid point too . We have to de-colonize and De-Brain-wash ourselves of this duldul-keechad- kooda-karkat..That it's these distorted versions that are proliferating, and it's these translations on which, WE HAVE TO LEARN TO DO POORVA PAKSH AND RENDER UTTAR PAKSH AS WELL... GEHRA ADHYAYAN, hume Rajivji jaise TAPASVI-KSHATRIYA bun ne ka SANKALP karna hai . Par , Apna Ojas-Tejas, Tapasya se hi UJAAGAR HOTA HAI ..IS KARAN SE HUME APNE GRANTHON KA PAARAYAN BHI KARNA HAI ... AGAR, AAJ TAK SANATAN DHARMA TIKA HUA HAI, TO (angreji padhe-likhon ki wajah se nahin) , KINTU, SADHARAN UNPADH LOGE, JO PARAYAN SE HI APNI-SUKH-SHANTI PA LETE HAIN ..yahi karan hai ki unhe nasht kar rahe hain dushman .Varnon ko ,SC/St/OBC etc., ko aapas me divide karke,, UNOI SHAKTI KSHEEN KARNE KE LIYE..yeh samajhna anivaarya hai...
...Again knowing a language is one thing and interpreting it is all together a different outcome. These so called western scholars (I think) know the language but have a different agenda to diminish the value of Indian culture and civilization. This has been an on going trouble. Some of it is due to religious thinking and some just due to a pure phobia...Hindu-phobia.
It’s refreshing to see people critically analysing the works of so called Western ‘scholars’ of sanskrit who are motivated by certain ideologies rather than really understanding the scripture.
Maybe that could be said about Whitney (19th century author of Sanskrit Grammar), but I don't see that in Goldman. I think he just wanted to produce an accurate translation, and was not wrongly motivated.
Mera aap se ek prashna hai ki aap jo ye Sanskrit mei type karte, wo kaise karte hai, PC se ya Mobile phone se? Kyunki mere phone jo keyboard hai Sanskrit aur Hindi ke liye usme संयुक्त व्यंजन nahi hai. Aur Sanskrit mei to kuch varna bhi hai jo ki usme nahi hai. PC aur laptop pe sirf Angrezi keyboard hi hai.
@@ashwarypThere is an app named Google Indic Keyboard in playstore. Install it and choose this keyboard as default. For typing samyukt vyanjan this app automatically has option when one press any letter or vyanjan. For PC and laptop you will have to go to setting- time and language - region and language -Add language. Choose whichever language you want to add from here. If all things correctlly done you will get button saying "ENG". If you click it you can now see keyboard option for chosen language. For layout try it or google it. :-).
Since the advent of Gita Press, my family is a regular "subscriber" (in some way, or, in other). Right now (since the times of my great-grand-father... we subscribe "Kalyan".... an un-broken tradition since almost 40 years ago! I too was very disturbed to hear the news about Geeta Press running into a financial crisis. I immediately renewed my subscription for 5 years... called up the customer reference no., and inquired about it. However, to my disappointment, he was of no help! Anyway, I am very happy to know about the truth. Many thanks Rajivji! I believe, Geeta Press is a National Treasure and pride... worth preserving.
Geeta Press is a पाखंड, it hasn't done anymore than doing पाखंड and corrupting Sanatana Dharma. mostly the books they sell are mixed versions of British. not a single book they sell is from original translation. i have read Shiv Puran & also have Vishnu puran purchased last year, believe me there's nothing but bullshit. to clear the confusion read it by yourself
He's not a commie, he is an Arya Samaji dolt. Has been pasting this same comment on every thread here. Arya Samajis are useful as long as they remain foot-soldiers defending the Dharmic milieu from mleccha and preta ideologies/militancy. The problem today is this colonial era neo-parampara is on a mission to subsume our entire diverse intellectual and metaphysical heritage trying to impose their singular weird crossover monotheist agenda. One of the great insidious threats of our times besides the outside anti-Hindu forces.
@@thedescanteer They're then no different from every other missionary religion preying on Hindus in India. Some of the other missionary religionss are also home-grown and also after Hindus.
Gautam Balboa brother this is because bhagwad geeta is a book which can be looked into by certain view points and yes swami ramsukhdasji was one of the best saint and commentator and yes his commentary of geeta sadhak sanjeevani is one of the best commentary of geeta
I remember seeinf the book Rajiv Ji was talking about. It's even translated in Tamil and I was shocked to see how aggressive the left is on Gita Press. Great work Nityanand Ji & Rajiv Ji!
I recommend you to buy from ISKCON for it's author His Divine Grace A.C Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada comes in a disciplic succession starting from Lord Krishna himself. He presents transcedental knowledge in an unadulterated and truest form. He established the Bhaktivedanta Book Trust ( BBT ) which publishes the books. You can get the books from ISKCON temple or even online.
@@rush2rain *Geeta press is far better than iskcon publication. Geeta press funds remain in India. Iskcon books money are ploughed back to US headquarters.*
No iskon GITA book is based on Gaurdyia samparady philosophy. Its is bad thing even prbhupada has tried to mix his concept in purport this is very bad. Gita prees gita and its explation is best
O-M-G! Sri Nityanand Misra's erudition, articulation, and restraint is THE gold standard for critiquing in general & Sanskrit translations in particular. I must say I have never before come across such a tempered & clinical scholarly analysis in my life. Not one wasted word here or there... and no nastiness! And his humble demeanor wins all! 🙏🙏🙏 Rajiv-ji, I hope Misra-ji is in your Home Team & pray that he doesn't get poached by the anti-India forces. This priceless gem just cannot be lost at any cost. Once Pollock is done with his multi-million-dollar poisoned translation of our 500 Sanskrit texts (commissioned by the Murthy Foundation), this exercise must be done on them as well. PS: I will use this video to demonstrate to my students how to analyze & critique others' work based on facts, not emotions & opinions.
I loved the way in which the subtleties and nuances of the Sanskrit anuvada was pointed out. Even if you have read accurate translations, it is difficult to fathom out such subtle mistakes. Nithyanand Misra ji has done commendable job in pointing these out. You really need an extremely sharp brain to pick up these subtle errors in translation. I am mesimerised by his precise knowledge and understanding of Sanskrit language and its grammatical construct and application of it.
Last year I went through the whole of Valmiki Ramayan, And though read the original Sanskrit text only, I took help from the Hindi translation to clear a few doubts. I didn't know about some Sanskrit words and could understand from this Hindi Translation. I often post in my blogs excerpts from this great Classic. I have translated few English and Sanskrit texts into Hindi, but I don't think I'm a qualified or professional scholar. While viewing this video I had fortunately the text with me and followed the five shlokas as narrated here one by one. Sri Nityanand Misra deserves all admiration for this great attempt . Regards!
I am so glad I found this video. I'm a westerner who wants to read the full Ramayana but I wasn't sure which version to read. Now I know that I should get the Gita Press version.
This is excellence, taking the level of discourse from rhetoric to a far better scholarly in nature!!We need to water this kalpavruksha i.e. system of discourse to produce more such gems in our homes.Jayatu jayatu Dharma,Dharmo rakshati rakshitaha
i LOVE gita press ❤🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 my hanuman chalisa and durga saptashati is from gita press. their translations are unmatched. thank you gita press and thank you rajiv ji 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Excellent discourse on English translations of Sanskrit texts. The importance of Gita Press, Gorakhpur is well established in the hearts of Hindus all over the Hindi speaking world as well as in the hearts of all the Hindu speakers of the other Indian languages in which Gita Press publishes. My compliments to Nityanand Misra and Rajiv Malhotra for bringing out the prominence of Gita Press, Gorakhpur.
Rajiv Malhotra Sir, I want to meet U at least once in my life. U r inspiration to millions. U started all this when I didn't even born. U have sacrificed everything, ur family life, wealth, time, geezerhood. We all are honored & privileged to have mentor like U. Thanks.
Brilliant work by Nityananda Mishra ji, thank you for showing us the Truth. And i agree that it has been inculcated into the young Indians that what the foreign authors or publishers write, research or publish is much better than India, but thanks to the work of the likes of Rajiv Malhotra ji, the truth is coming out and we as Hindus as well as Indians can decide the best in our interest. The monopoly on our language, culture and civilization is not of these pseudo-intellects but for real people who work hard and bring out the originality of the works of our past. Having degrees from the Western universities is one thing and having real knowledge is a totally different thing.
Splendid.Now Infinity Foundations has started delivering its commitments-not only challenging Western interpretations of our ancient texts but also encouraging modern Indian youths to develop critical thinking as per our norms.As for our methodology,I recall having read that Panini in his sutras mentions apart from Anvaya ,shobdartha,,bhavartha,vakyartha, also Lakshayartha(the intended meaning in the particular context.
This is pure gem. Never have I ever thought that such a tweak of words can make humongous difference to entire meaning. Thank you for bringing this out. And जब तक सूरज चाँद रहेगा, गीता प्रेस का काम रहेगा।
I request each serious person here to please read the two threads where this mini-series with Nityanand is being discussed. These threads are in a forum of 1,000+ Sanskrit scholars: Thread 1: groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/bvparishat/L6jZbevNn9w Thread 2: groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/bvparishat/RpSjykp35OA It is important to nurture and encourage our scholars, to facilitate that their work reaches both insiders & outsiders: Insiders to spread awareness of the biases and encourage more persons to follow the movement we started; Outsiders to draw them into debate and take our counter arguments deeper into the kurukshetra - as Nityanand is doing in these two threads. Rajiv
Each of us should take it upon us as a duty to buy at least 5 books from Gitapress each year - gift to kids, relatives, libraries. This institution should be preserved at all costs.
I am reading the Gita press version and learning samskrtam at samskrtaBharati. The Gita press version is far far superior to Goldman. It incredible quality at an absurdly cheap price. I would gladly pay 10 times the current price of this book. Goldman is a watered down translation . It is worthless if you are trying to learn and decipher word by word meanings from the translation- and neither is the “spirit” of the translation close to the original. I fully agree with NithayanandJi.
Thank you for continuing with the exposure of pea-brained Western intellectuals. The eye will see only what the mind knows . The Western mind was curious but always lacked the "purushartha" required to comprehend indian knowledge. They NEVER experienced the level of conciousness which fractal minded ancient indian sages did , thus their language vocabulary is also similarly handicapped to comprehend the Sanskrit non-translatables . These non-translateables are those depths of Indian philosophy which the West had NEVER reached !!
15 minutes into the video and I have now already started to see how the so called scholars of Sanskrit, are either careless in translating it correctly or it is their apathy towards the language which motivates them to leave the translation with so many errors. If Sanskrit is to be translated it must be done very carefully, without distorting the beauty/rasa of the original text and it's time that we Indians should take the responsibility to own the department of translating and scrutinizing the translation done by others for the rest of the world. Excellent, I am impressed with Mr. Nityananda's knowledge of Sanskrit. It proves that only Indians should have the authority to translate Sanskrit for the rest of the world.
Although there are problems with Goldman, I am confident that it's nothing compared to insanity called Devdutt Pattnaik. Tremendous work by Shree Nityananda Mishra ji. Rajiv Sir, I am looking forward to more videos in this series.
What an enlightening video ... and Nityanand's knowledge of Sanskrit is great, the pronunciation perfect. One aspect I want to ask about - Nityanand mentioned in passing that he was in touch with Robert Goldman. I am curious to know if the contents of this video had been brought to his notice, and what his response was? His response will reveal the true intention behind Goldman's commentary on Valmiki Ramayan.
I am so glad to come across Nityanand Misra on your channel. It’s a relief to know there are such intelligent and erudite folks taking an interest in our language and culture. This man is an example of guru(s)that we need during today’s time. I can’t wait to check out his books!
It is like first grade student trying to interpret a book of graduation level, who doesn't understand the complexities involved. And the later generations blindly taking up those interpretations to be true.Leading to a recipe of disaster. It brings a caution for seekers of true knowledge. Thank-you
This is scholarship at a very high level, and a real pleasure to listen to. Even without being a Sanskrit scholar, I have sufficient Sanskrit vocabulary from my mother tongue Telugu to understand what is being discussed. Shri Nityananand Mishra's dissection of Mr. Goldman's work has real implications for arresting the propagation of scholarly errors in works of Samskritam. The longer the errors propagate, the harder the record gets to correct.
Master class. This is the way to make readers appreciate the nuances. I am not a native Hindi speaker, but I consult Gita Press Hindi translations to know the correct meaning /usage of words, even when I read English translations.
Very big Indologist expert in Western world means a juvenile in front of Indian Vedic Indologists. In Western world they are big because we haven't presented ourselves to them or we limited to ourselves. Thanks to vivekananda and srila prabhupad kind of Exemplaries, who introduced actual Indology to western audiences.
Namaste Malhotra ji and Mishra ji for bringing such good comparison and analysis of the Sankrit texts. Gives us insights in choosing the publication before buying Sankrit interpretations./\
I wish I were a billionaire (at least a millionaire or even less would work), then I would just utilise all my finance to preserve and promote our great Sanatana Dharma culture and phenomenon through people like you and publishers like Gita Press. But, I will find some way. I will.
Namasthe, Thanks for your important work. As a sanskrit-illiterate, I can still recognize words like Mati, Samardha, kruthagnya etc. from tamil/telugu words.It is sad that supposedly scholarly work in academic have been unexamined for this long. Thank you
Very great comparison - high level of scholarship. Entire India should be grateful to Rajiv malhotra for bringing such an awakening.It totally conforms to Hindu approach for getting knowledge thru enlighrened debate.
I totally agree with Danny B.Another profound example of misinterpretation is how 'yoga' is treated with in the western world and in most part of modern India towards more material benefits, contrasting it with the original meaning(Yoga means:'Union with the supreme'). Which puts more emphasis on knowing ones true nature,no doubt physical health is also important in yoga practices but not the ultimate goal.Physical health is given importance only to the extent of it being helpful to know oneself.
Without doubt, Gita Press has done a great service to Hinduism. The entire Hindu society must be indebted to them. We should not expect the foreigners (Christians) to do justice to our religion. On the contrary, they will try very hard to protect Hindus and Hinduism in a very poor light and inferior to Christianity. We should not walk into their trap. Long live Gita Press and long live Seth Jaidayal Goindka and Bhai Hanuman Prasad Poddar.
We Hindus must incorporate one great organisation, which will verify and authetify the interpretations & translations and print, publish etc all our Sansrut Granths. Those should be made available to we Hindus and all in the world.
Brilliant work. These westerns should not get away with corrupting our scriptures as done in the past. You people are the warriors of new India. Whole India will support you. I have bought you book , Breaking India forces and I encourage everyone to buy books written by Indian schoolers about our history. Other authors worth reading are Shushil Pandit, Sanjay Dixit, Amish Trivedi, Madhu Kishwar, Durga Das etc.
I bought Bhagavat Gita as it is but didn't feel like reading after few chapters then few weeks back bought Gita Eng transileration and translation in English. Trust me when I say this there is a hell and heaven difference. Gita press book has exact dialogue and translation without any bias modifications... Unlike the Iskcon one... I have completed 18 chapters with ease and fully satisfied by the divine words... Price is very reasonable and good printing quality.... One should read exact words and understand it by their own level.. Commentaries and purport drifts u away from the actual sayings.... Coz its the speaker's thinking not of Divine Supreme being.... Looking forward to buy more books from Gita Press.....
Gita press books constitute the bookshells and trunks of my house. My grandfather used to regularly read Gita Press books and through Gita Press I was introduced to Bhagvad Gita.
Thank you mishraji & rajivji . Both of you have taken us to such beautiful verses of such a madhur language , could we have the next episode on a complete authenticated road map for all seekers to absorb & behold this Madhur basha , like a do it yourself kind. Pls , awaiting.
i am a fan of Gita Press... i have bought lots of books from GIta press and admire the translations....
Geeta Press is a पाखंड, it hasn't done anymore than doing पाखंड and corrupting Sanatana Dharma. mostly the books they sell are mixed versions of British.
not a single book they sell is from original translation. i have read Shiv Puran & also have Vishnu puran purchased last year, believe me there's nothing but bullshit. to clear the confusion read it by yourself
it's the best.
@@ashamednature3339 Stop copy pasting in every comment like an idiotic moron, without proper evidence to show.
I have brought all the Upanishads from Gita Press and at my home we also have Shiva Purana and they perfectly fine and understandable.
There is not one translator in Gita Press, there are several scholars who do translation, and each is published separately. They also do the translation of different commentaries as well, the commentaries that have been done by Adi Shankharacharya, Abhinavguapta, Madhavacharya etc.
And to understand any Sanskrit text even if its translation, one needs to have prior knowledge of the texts, what they are about to expect, the other works of the commentator on which his works his based on, for eg: Vedanta or Kashimiri Shaivism or Advaita etc. In several cases you just can't pick up a text and start reading and expect to understand everything, one needs to understand the context and the foundation on which the texts are based.
@@ashwaryp I'll copy past it everywhere until the bastards stop corrupting Sanatana Dharma. tell me what absolute conclusion you've got by reading purans? if you think Shiv Puran is absolute then you're just living in fantasies, it's nothing more than lollipops of getting Moxa. i can't say about उपनिषद् as i haven't read it but people who care about truth won't even dare to publish these fake purans and misled.
@@ashwaryp i suggest you to read सत्यार्थ प्रकाश.
The best is to learn Sanskrit and read only the original.
It isn't like that bro. When you learn Sanskrit, you have to study the translations. Imagine if the standard translation is Goldman's. Then what a sanskrit word means will also be Goldman's translation.
Geeta Press is a पाखंड, it hasn't done anymore than doing पाखंड and corrupting Sanatana Dharma. mostly the books they sell are mixed versions of British.
not a single book they sell is from original translation. i have read Shiv Puran & also have Vishnu puran purchased last year, believe me there's nothing but bullshit. to clear the confusion read it by yourself
Girvid SHRI ! I agree with you ..All translations aside...
THE ORIGINAL SANSKRUT BHAASHA ME, JUB ORIGINAL GRANTH HUM AATMA_SAAT KAREIN , AUR RUG RUG ME JEEYEIN, TAB, SAARTHAK HOTA HAI JEEWAN...Jai Shri Ram, Jai Shri Krishna ...
pollock aur uske jaise bahut aire -gairon ka Sanskrut translations bhi ek-apne-tarfi,swaarthi vichar-dhaara ka prachaar maatra hai...
Sanatan Dharma se un sub ka koi sarokar nahin .
True kumar saiesh rane.BIASED, APNE-SWAARTHI-EK-TARFI-VICHAR-PRACHAAR MAATRA...Therefore, Keep all translations aside and , as Girvid Shri and Anubhavi Sanatanis Suggest, that THE ORIGINAL SANSKRUT GRANTHAS SHOULD BE STUDIED AND ABSORBED ONLY BY STUDYING IN IT'S AUTHENTIC, CHASTE ,SAMSKRUTAM..(JISE AATMASAAT KARNA HUM KEHTE HAIN) .. SRIMAD BHAGAWAD GEETA PAARAAYAN, JO HUME APNE AATMA SE JODE RAKHTA HAI. YEH HUI POSITIVE=SAKAARAATMAK BAAT.Humari saari ki saari, (including Dakshini Bhashayein BHI) Sanskrut ki hi Beti-Bahena hain.. (madrase me kya karte hain ? arbi me quran rut-rutakar hi , hum kafiron ko khatma karne ki namaz padhayi jaati hai.. koi bhi, un arbi lafzon ke matlab nahin samajhta..par RADICALIZE-BRAIN-WASH JAROOR HO JAATA HAI..
BHARATIYA Sanskrut-Sanskruti me koi aisi baat nahin, jo Bhagawad Geeta ko padhne se, kisika brain-wash karke use nasht-bhrasht karta ho AUR SAARI KAAYANAT KO KHATMA KARNA SIKHATA HO !
You have your solid point too . We have to de-colonize and De-Brain-wash ourselves of this duldul-keechad- kooda-karkat..That it's these distorted versions that are proliferating, and it's these translations on which, WE HAVE TO LEARN TO DO POORVA PAKSH AND RENDER UTTAR PAKSH AS WELL... GEHRA ADHYAYAN, hume Rajivji jaise TAPASVI-KSHATRIYA bun ne ka SANKALP karna hai . Par , Apna Ojas-Tejas, Tapasya se hi UJAAGAR HOTA HAI ..IS KARAN SE HUME APNE GRANTHON KA PAARAYAN BHI KARNA HAI ... AGAR, AAJ TAK SANATAN DHARMA TIKA HUA HAI, TO (angreji padhe-likhon ki wajah se nahin) , KINTU, SADHARAN UNPADH LOGE, JO PARAYAN SE HI APNI-SUKH-SHANTI PA LETE HAIN ..yahi karan hai ki unhe nasht kar rahe hain dushman .Varnon ko ,SC/St/OBC etc., ko aapas me divide karke,, UNOI SHAKTI KSHEEN KARNE KE LIYE..yeh samajhna anivaarya hai...
...Again knowing a language is one thing and interpreting it is all together a different outcome. These so called western scholars (I think) know the language but have a different agenda to diminish the value of Indian culture and civilization. This has been an on going trouble. Some of it is due to religious thinking and some just due to a pure phobia...Hindu-phobia.
Jai Shree Rama lakshmana Janaki Jai Bolo Hanuman ki!
jay
Jai ho Prabhu
Jai shree ram
Jay Shree Ram
It’s refreshing to see people critically analysing the works of so called Western ‘scholars’ of sanskrit who are motivated by certain ideologies rather than really understanding the scripture.
They are trying to establish that they are authorities on everything in the world ,self proclaimed champions . Support Gita Press .
Maybe that could be said about Whitney (19th century author of Sanskrit Grammar), but I don't see that in Goldman. I think he just wanted to produce an accurate translation, and was not wrongly motivated.
Jagdeesh Dogra yes, it requires a lot of commitment to follow the trail of falsehood and correct it.
My salutations to नित्यानंद मिश्रा जी,for his deep knowledge of Sanskrit language and culture
नित्यानन्द महोदय एतत् दृष्टवा अहमानन्दं प्राप्तवान् अपि व्याकरणे किञ्चित् नूतन विषान्यपि ज्ञातवान् धन्यवादः ।
Mera aap se ek prashna hai ki aap jo ye Sanskrit mei type karte, wo kaise karte hai, PC se ya Mobile phone se?
Kyunki mere phone jo keyboard hai Sanskrit aur Hindi ke liye usme संयुक्त व्यंजन nahi hai. Aur Sanskrit mei to kuch varna bhi hai jo ki usme nahi hai. PC aur laptop pe sirf Angrezi keyboard hi hai.
@@ashwarypThere is an app named Google Indic Keyboard in playstore. Install it and choose this keyboard as default.
For typing samyukt vyanjan this app automatically has option when one press any letter or vyanjan.
For PC and laptop you will have to go to setting- time and language - region and language -Add language. Choose whichever language you want to add from here. If all things correctlly done you will get button saying "ENG". If you click it you can now see keyboard option for chosen language. For layout try it or google it. :-).
Since the advent of Gita Press, my family is a regular "subscriber" (in some way, or, in other). Right now (since the times of my great-grand-father... we subscribe "Kalyan".... an un-broken tradition since almost 40 years ago!
I too was very disturbed to hear the news about Geeta Press running into a financial crisis. I immediately renewed my subscription for 5 years... called up the customer reference no., and inquired about it. However, to my disappointment, he was of no help!
Anyway, I am very happy to know about the truth. Many thanks Rajivji!
I believe, Geeta Press is a National Treasure and pride... worth preserving.
Geeta Press is a पाखंड, it hasn't done anymore than doing पाखंड and corrupting Sanatana Dharma. mostly the books they sell are mixed versions of British.
not a single book they sell is from original translation. i have read Shiv Puran & also have Vishnu puran purchased last year, believe me there's nothing but bullshit. to clear the confusion read it by yourself
@@ashamednature3339
Nonsense. You seem to be a commie.
He's not a commie, he is an Arya Samaji dolt. Has been pasting this same comment on every thread here. Arya Samajis are useful as long as they remain foot-soldiers defending the Dharmic milieu from mleccha and preta ideologies/militancy. The problem today is this colonial era neo-parampara is on a mission to subsume our entire diverse intellectual and metaphysical heritage trying to impose their singular weird crossover monotheist agenda. One of the great insidious threats of our times besides the outside anti-Hindu forces.
@@thedescanteer They're then no different from every other missionary religion preying on Hindus in India. Some of the other missionary religionss are also home-grown and also after Hindus.
Gita press is great. Highly recommend Sadhak sanjivni by swami ramsukhdasji wonderful commentary on Gita. This is the best one out there.
जरूरत से जायदा बडी पुस्तक है साधकसँजिवनी ना बेठके पढीं जाती हैं ना लेटके समझ नहीं आया कि ईतनी बडी भाष्य की कया जरूरत है कहीं साथ में भी नहीं लेजा सकते
Gautam Balboa brother this is because bhagwad geeta is a book which can be looked into by certain view points and yes swami ramsukhdasji was one of the best saint and commentator and yes his commentary of geeta sadhak sanjeevani is one of the best commentary of geeta
True. You can also try the Tattvavivechni by Sri Jaydayal Goyandka. It's shorter and also from Gita Press
@@gautambalboa3884 you can go for english version of saadhak Sanjeevni. That one is segregated in two volumes.
1st Fault - 12:16
2nd Fault - 13:50
3rd- 16:40
4th- 23:50
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& Don't thank me, Thank them, I'm just trying to do my bit...
Only 5 slokas and so many mistakes.
Guys press is a true service to humanity . We must encourage Gita press.
I remember seeinf the book Rajiv Ji was talking about. It's even translated in Tamil and I was shocked to see how aggressive the left is on Gita Press. Great work Nityanand Ji & Rajiv Ji!
Going to buy all Sanskrit and local language literature translations from Gita Press only.
I recommend you to buy from ISKCON for it's author His Divine Grace A.C Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada comes in a disciplic succession starting from Lord Krishna himself. He presents transcedental knowledge in an unadulterated and truest form. He established the Bhaktivedanta Book Trust ( BBT ) which publishes the books. You can get the books from ISKCON temple or even online.
@@rush2rain *Geeta press is far better than iskcon publication. Geeta press funds remain in India. Iskcon books money are ploughed back to US headquarters.*
No iskon GITA book is based on Gaurdyia samparady philosophy. Its is bad thing even prbhupada has tried to mix his concept in purport this is very bad. Gita prees gita and its explation is best
Gita press translations are as it is whereas ISKCON is a highly fanatic organization calling Shiva as demigod and Ramakrishna Paramhansa as rascal
I'm Lucky to visit Geeta press Gorakhpur for a documentary project and met the management in person, such a great heritage we have as Indians.
O-M-G! Sri Nityanand Misra's erudition, articulation, and restraint is THE gold standard for critiquing in general & Sanskrit translations in particular. I must say I have never before come across such a tempered & clinical scholarly analysis in my life. Not one wasted word here or there... and no nastiness! And his humble demeanor wins all! 🙏🙏🙏
Rajiv-ji, I hope Misra-ji is in your Home Team & pray that he doesn't get poached by the anti-India forces. This priceless gem just cannot be lost at any cost. Once Pollock is done with his multi-million-dollar poisoned translation of our 500 Sanskrit texts (commissioned by the Murthy Foundation), this exercise must be done on them as well.
PS: I will use this video to demonstrate to my students how to analyze & critique others' work based on facts, not emotions & opinions.
बहु उत्तमा चर्चा ।अनेन सर्वेषां स्पष्टता भवेत् । धन्याः वयम्।।
Gita press is pure gold. thankfully my family bought so many books from them.
I loved the way in which the subtleties and nuances of the Sanskrit anuvada was pointed out. Even if you have read accurate translations, it is difficult to fathom out such subtle mistakes. Nithyanand Misra ji has done commendable job in pointing these out. You really need an extremely sharp brain to pick up these subtle errors in translation. I am mesimerised by his precise knowledge and understanding of Sanskrit language and its grammatical construct and application of it.
Last year I went through the whole of Valmiki Ramayan, And though read the original Sanskrit text only, I took help from the Hindi translation to clear a few doubts. I didn't know about some Sanskrit words and could understand from this Hindi Translation. I often post in my blogs excerpts from this great Classic. I have translated few English and Sanskrit texts into Hindi, but I don't think I'm a qualified or professional scholar. While viewing this video I had fortunately the text with me and followed the five shlokas as narrated here one by one. Sri Nityanand Misra deserves all admiration for this great attempt . Regards!
What is your blog's title? Which publisher's Ramayana did you use for perusal?
At this year Delhi Book fair Geeta Press stall saw highest number of visitors and was glad to see Youngsters wanted to read Indian Scriptures..
I am so glad I found this video. I'm a westerner who wants to read the full Ramayana but I wasn't sure which version to read. Now I know that I should get the Gita Press version.
learning Sanskrit. is a must for a good understanding.!!
no other means.
My Dear Mr. Malhotra, thank you very much for the superb work you're doing to defend, restore and preserve Hinduism. Namaste.
Great Video Rajivji 🙏🙏🙏
Where were you Nityanand-ji for so long! India needs thousands of great sons like you!!
Gita Press books on Indian religion and culture are the best . I have seen them since childhood .
This is excellence, taking the level of discourse from rhetoric to a far better scholarly in nature!!We need to water this kalpavruksha i.e. system of discourse to produce more such gems in our homes.Jayatu jayatu Dharma,Dharmo rakshati rakshitaha
*Gita press saved our tradition and scripts, they saved our Hinduism. Made our history available to common Hindus.*
i LOVE gita press ❤🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
my hanuman chalisa and durga saptashati is from gita press.
their translations are unmatched.
thank you gita press and thank you rajiv ji 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Excellent discourse on English translations of Sanskrit texts. The importance of Gita Press, Gorakhpur is well established in the hearts of Hindus all over the Hindi speaking world as well as in the hearts of all the Hindu speakers of the other Indian languages in which Gita Press publishes. My compliments to Nityanand Misra and Rajiv Malhotra for bringing out the prominence of Gita Press, Gorakhpur.
Rajiv Malhotra Sir, I want to meet U at least once in my life. U r inspiration to millions. U started all this when I didn't even born. U have sacrificed everything, ur family life, wealth, time, geezerhood. We all are honored & privileged to have mentor like U. Thanks.
From the start to end the entire discussion is fantastic and pointed.... I love it
Great research work done by the gentleman Sri Nityanand Mishra.
Brilliant work by Nityananda Mishra ji, thank you for showing us the Truth. And i agree that it has been inculcated into the young Indians that what the foreign authors or publishers write, research or publish is much better than India, but thanks to the work of the likes of Rajiv Malhotra ji, the truth is coming out and we as Hindus as well as Indians can decide the best in our interest. The monopoly on our language, culture and civilization is not of these pseudo-intellects but for real people who work hard and bring out the originality of the works of our past. Having degrees from the Western universities is one thing and having real knowledge is a totally different thing.
Splendid.Now Infinity Foundations has started delivering its commitments-not only challenging Western interpretations of our ancient texts but also encouraging modern Indian youths to develop critical thinking as per our norms.As for our methodology,I recall having read that Panini in his sutras mentions apart from Anvaya ,shobdartha,,bhavartha,vakyartha, also Lakshayartha(the intended meaning in the particular context.
Nityanand Mishra sounds fantastic
This is pure gem. Never have I ever thought that such a tweak of words can make humongous difference to entire meaning. Thank you for bringing this out. And जब तक सूरज चाँद रहेगा, गीता प्रेस का काम रहेगा।
I request each serious person here to please read the two threads where this mini-series with Nityanand is being discussed. These threads are in a forum of 1,000+ Sanskrit scholars:
Thread 1: groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/bvparishat/L6jZbevNn9w
Thread 2: groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/bvparishat/RpSjykp35OA
It is important to nurture and encourage our scholars, to facilitate that their work reaches both insiders & outsiders:
Insiders to spread awareness of the biases and encourage more persons to follow the movement we started;
Outsiders to draw them into debate and take our counter arguments deeper into the kurukshetra - as Nityanand is doing in these two threads.
Rajiv
I am fond of Geeta Press being studying their
different books since more than 45 yrs
Hats of Nityanand ji
Each of us should take it upon us as a duty to buy at least 5 books from Gitapress each year - gift to kids, relatives, libraries. This institution should be preserved at all costs.
One dislike from Rober Goldman.
"Robber" seems fitting xD
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I am reading the Gita press version and learning samskrtam at samskrtaBharati. The Gita press version is far far superior to Goldman. It incredible quality at an absurdly cheap price. I would gladly pay 10 times the current price of this book.
Goldman is a watered down translation . It is worthless if you are trying to learn and decipher word by word meanings from the translation- and neither is the “spirit” of the translation close to the original.
I fully agree with NithayanandJi.
Thank you for continuing with the exposure of pea-brained Western intellectuals.
The eye will see only what the mind knows .
The Western mind was curious but
always lacked the "purushartha" required to comprehend indian knowledge.
They NEVER experienced the level of conciousness which fractal minded ancient indian sages did , thus their language vocabulary is also similarly handicapped to comprehend the Sanskrit non-translatables .
These non-translateables are those depths of Indian philosophy which the West had NEVER reached !!
rahulbuddy101 - And also can never reach
this is really awesome .. i really like both of your rigorous works ..
15 minutes into the video and I have now already started to see how the so called scholars of Sanskrit, are either careless in translating it correctly or it is their apathy towards the language which motivates them to leave the translation with so many errors. If Sanskrit is to be translated it must be done very carefully, without distorting the beauty/rasa of the original text and it's time that we Indians should take the responsibility to own the department of translating and scrutinizing the translation done by others for the rest of the world. Excellent, I am impressed with Mr. Nityananda's knowledge of Sanskrit. It proves that only Indians should have the authority to translate Sanskrit for the rest of the world.
Although there are problems with Goldman, I am confident that it's nothing compared to insanity called Devdutt Pattnaik. Tremendous work by Shree Nityananda Mishra ji. Rajiv Sir, I am looking forward to more videos in this series.
What an enlightening video ... and Nityanand's knowledge of Sanskrit is great, the pronunciation perfect. One aspect I want to ask about - Nityanand mentioned in passing that he was in touch with Robert Goldman. I am curious to know if the contents of this video had been brought to his notice, and what his response was? His response will reveal the true intention behind Goldman's commentary on Valmiki Ramayan.
I am so glad to come across Nityanand Misra on your channel. It’s a relief to know there are such intelligent and erudite folks taking an interest in our language and culture. This man is an example of guru(s)that we need during today’s time. I can’t wait to check out his books!
It is like first grade student trying to interpret a book of graduation level, who doesn't understand the complexities involved.
And the later generations blindly taking up those interpretations to be true.Leading to a recipe of disaster.
It brings a caution for seekers of true knowledge.
Thank-you
I have been reading Gita Press since my Childhood.
I am a great fan of our great Geeta press.
Sad part is ICCR(Indian Council on Culture Relations) honored Robert Goldman with Sanskrit Award in 2017
Yes sir, and Scholars like Ramnarayandutta Shastry who translated Ramayana, Mahabharat and many Puranas got nothing
This is scholarship at a very high level, and a real pleasure to listen to. Even without being a Sanskrit scholar, I have sufficient Sanskrit vocabulary from my mother tongue Telugu to understand what is being discussed. Shri Nityananand Mishra's dissection of Mr. Goldman's work has real implications for arresting the propagation of scholarly errors in works of Samskritam. The longer the errors propagate, the harder the record gets to correct.
Master class. This is the way to make readers appreciate the nuances. I am not a native Hindi speaker, but I consult Gita Press Hindi translations to know the correct meaning /usage of words, even when I read English translations.
Simply than you,wonderful job Nityananda Misra!!
No words to express my thanks . Just Pranams.
"The empires of the future is the empire of the mind" - Churchill
Will buy from Gita Press only now.
This is so amazing! the level of perfection and attention to detail is mind boggling. Thanks Infinity and Nityanand ji.
sir, your move is admirable and love from me sir.... Dhanyavaad sirji iss video k liye and saving Gita Press
Very big Indologist expert in Western world means a juvenile in front of Indian Vedic Indologists.
In Western world they are big because we haven't presented ourselves to them or we limited to ourselves. Thanks to vivekananda and srila prabhupad kind of Exemplaries, who introduced actual Indology to western audiences.
Feeling blessed that I grew up on Geeta Press publications.
I continue the same tradition. 🙏
Nityanand Misra is Gold for the intellectual Kshatriya movement. Thank you
Nithyanand mishras knowledge is mind blowing
Namaste Malhotra ji and Mishra ji for bringing such good comparison and analysis of the Sankrit texts. Gives us insights in choosing the publication before buying Sankrit interpretations./\
Gita Press translations are based on experiences , not scholarly. Best Guide to all spiritual aspirants.
I wish I were a billionaire (at least a millionaire or even less would work), then I would just utilise all my finance to preserve and promote our great Sanatana Dharma culture and phenomenon through people like you and publishers like Gita Press. But, I will find some way. I will.
Its highly crucial in this time in India where people are being critical of Hindu text without any knowledge. Great work sir
Thank you both for exposing lack of understanding of Sanskrit language by renowned western Indologists.
Namasthe,
Thanks for your important work. As a sanskrit-illiterate, I can still recognize words like Mati, Samardha, kruthagnya etc. from tamil/telugu words.It is sad that supposedly scholarly work in academic have been unexamined for this long.
Thank you
So glad we have people like you two!
🙏 heartfelt thanks to Shri Rajiv Malhotra ji and Shri Nityanand Misra ji for putting up this gem of a video.
Very great comparison - high level of scholarship.
Entire India should be grateful to Rajiv malhotra for bringing such an awakening.It totally conforms to Hindu approach for getting knowledge thru enlighrened debate.
such a deep analysis. sir u must write a book on rebuttals to goldman-pollock and the MNCs funded devdutta.
Superb observation.. Looks like the gold standard has been challenged..
I totally agree with Danny B.Another profound example of misinterpretation is how 'yoga' is treated with in the western world and in most part of modern India towards more material benefits, contrasting it with the original meaning(Yoga means:'Union with the supreme'). Which puts more emphasis on knowing ones true nature,no doubt physical health is also important in yoga practices but not the ultimate goal.Physical health is given importance only to the extent of it being helpful to know oneself.
Pranamas Mishraji! I appreciate the depth of knowledge of words, errors by westerners and very probable guess.
Without doubt, Gita Press has done a great service to Hinduism. The entire Hindu society must be indebted to them. We should not expect the foreigners (Christians) to do justice to our religion. On the contrary, they will try very hard to protect Hindus and Hinduism in a very poor light and inferior to Christianity. We should not walk into their trap.
Long live Gita Press and long live Seth Jaidayal Goindka and Bhai Hanuman Prasad Poddar.
Thank you both for taking your valuable time and efforts to let us know the difference between Gold and Kathir!
amazing video
Superb discussion.. can't wait for more on this series..
Very well explained analysis and research.
Wow! Such a great and an eye opening discussion. #BreakingIndiaForces at work.
A good presentation. Very specific analysis. Solid and irrefutable. Also in reasonably simple language. We want more of such stuff
Very Wonderful talk,
Full of Knowledge & Wisdom.
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We should send these comments to the Sanskrit magazine Sudharma.
Thank you, Mr Nityananda Mishra!
Thanks to both of you
We Hindus must incorporate one great organisation, which will verify and authetify the interpretations & translations and print, publish etc all our Sansrut Granths. Those should be made available to we Hindus and all in the world.
Brilliant work. These westerns should not get away with corrupting our scriptures as done in the past. You people are the warriors of new India. Whole India will support you. I have bought you book , Breaking India forces and I encourage everyone to buy books written by Indian schoolers about our history. Other authors worth reading are Shushil Pandit, Sanjay Dixit, Amish Trivedi, Madhu Kishwar, Durga Das etc.
Great job with showing up Goldman. Very informative discussion.
I bought Bhagavat Gita as it is but didn't feel like reading after few chapters then few weeks back bought Gita Eng transileration and translation in English. Trust me when I say this there is a hell and heaven difference. Gita press book has exact dialogue and translation without any bias modifications... Unlike the Iskcon one... I have completed 18 chapters with ease and fully satisfied by the divine words... Price is very reasonable and good printing quality.... One should read exact words and understand it by their own level.. Commentaries and purport drifts u away from the actual sayings.... Coz its the speaker's thinking not of Divine Supreme being....
Looking forward to buy more books from Gita Press.....
There is so much to learn in Sanskrit. Only mere learning Sanskrit is not sufficient.
Always support Indian authors and publication houses like Gita Press publication. Gita Press is very old publication house.
Elucidated brilliantly...Dr. Nityananda
Great work.
Gita press books constitute the bookshells and trunks of my house. My grandfather used to regularly read Gita Press books and through Gita Press I was introduced to Bhagvad Gita.
Among so many literary festivals are happening every now and then; I believe a Geeta Press organized/driven one will be most valuable and rightful.
Thank you mishraji & rajivji . Both of you have taken us to such beautiful verses of such a madhur language , could we have the next episode on a complete authenticated road map for all seekers to absorb & behold this Madhur basha , like a do it yourself kind. Pls , awaiting.
A good presentation. Very specific analysis.Solid and irrefutable. Also in reasonably simple language. We want more of such stop
I really great ful ...I like most u both conversation & many things come to know interesting
Gita press is one of the best experts on Hindu theology.