Rural Internet Setup Revisited: Costs, Speed Tests & Final Thoughts. Off grid day 51
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- Опубликовано: 2 июн 2024
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This is a follow-up video addressing some remaining points and suggestions from viewers after the previous video about setting up an internet connection. The key topics covered include:
- Speed test results using an iphone, showing slightly better speeds closer to the internet source
- Trying different bandwidth settings on the router to optimize speeds, but auto-selection seems to work best
- Discussing the limitations of the PoE injector used, which caps speeds at 100 Mbps
- Total cost breakdown for the setup (around £300 for router, cables, PoE injector)
- Comparison of upload speeds vs the previous Starlink internet, showing a big improvement
- Closing thoughts on the overall performance, reliability, and ease of setup
- Mentioning an upcoming video featuring a nature camera testing wildlife around the property
The video aims to provide closure on the internet setup process, address viewer feedback, and share insights gained from the experience. It highlights the affordable cost and performance improvement over Starlink for this particular rural location.
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00:00 Intro and phone test
01:48 Signal bands
03:07 POE injector
04:16 Costs and closing thoughts 
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We've lived in rural Argyll for 16 years and it was only 18 months ago that we moved from a 2Mb/s BT (copper) connection to (first) a 50Mb/s mobile then, 6 months ago, to 500Mb/s fibre. Surprisingly we run an internet business since moving here and have always managed, even at 2Mb/s. People seem to have pretty high expectations for a connection these days!
@@ca09z Oh I fully understand the increasing 'need for speed' (up and down) so it wasn't meant as a criticism but more as an observation of how things are so quickly advancing. That said, the use of 4k video is pretty OTT when the majority of people still view them on 1080 HD screens!
I did have really high expectations. I wanted my effort alone to increase the speeds.
I think if I'm not mistaken it is upload more than download they are looking for. As someone in the video creative space I can tell you that upload on starlink is a second thought to the team at SpaceX who prioritize download (for obvious reasons) I'd imagine with his new upload he may even be able to steadily stream to RUclips, This wouldn't have been possible on his starlink speeds
"If you like this kind of content come & see us, be nice to have you here" What a cracking way to end your videos, I'm invariably left with the distinct impression that it's sincere, for an old fart who's dreams are no longer reachable the next best thing is watching a fella chase & secure his, Best wishes to you n yours Mister, I wish you every success.
It is sincere without you all in the comments I wouldnt learn from the past video so that I can be better in the next one. Thank you although I am sure there is still time for some of your dreams to come true
An hour upload with much less costs is a major upgrade. 👍
Yea I am really glad to actually have a result I can feel in my day to day. Thanks
Stability and consistency is the key, speed is nice of course but approx 100mb/40mb is really good considering location and topography.
Thank you
Hi, interesting series.
You did the right thing in the end. Start near to mast, cut out as many things as possible between your transceiver and your laptop to see the most you can get. Then back near your home, make sure everything (devices, cables) you use have at least the maximum capacity you want (even more for future proofing).
Height of your transceiver / antennas is a big factor in any radio comms. If you can raise it, either by inserting sections at the bottom (stabilized by guy wires), or raising by pulling it up from horizontal (more wires to stop it bending in half) then that would by something for the future. You don't want anything you need to maintain at the very top though (if you can help it), like SIM cards etc.
And yes, make sure your transceiver can cover all the "channels" used in this country. Each operator has a subset I think, so if you want to switch operator in the future you would be covered.
Bit concerned about lightning, skipped through some sections of your videos, so maybe I missed something. Just concerned a metal pole stuck in the ground in the middle of a field with a cable running back to your home / office might be a problem. Have you looked into lightning protection.
Cheers
Thanks, I do have other scaffold poles and a connector is easy to come by and fit so I will keep that in mind. There is an earthing line on the router and others have already pointed out I need a surge protector at the end it connects to the router so I am hoping we will be ok with those.
Thanks for the follow up.
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One thought on the scaffold pole, I would have acquired a full length pole as the extra height will help raise the CPE out of the ground clutter and increase the SNR margin, this may or may not get you extra speed but it will certainly help.
Thanks I had a longer one but I couldnt think about how I would get up to the top to mount the antenna. Although now that I am writing it I suppose I could have fitted it and then raised the pole
@@offgridscotland You got there in the end... 😉
Learning alot through your videos, great stuff
Thanks some people sont like the fact I dont know what I am doing most of the time but I want to include it anyway
So pleased it is working for you.
Thanks!
Bravo for your whole project ! Very inspiring ! Greetings from Switzerland :)
Thank you!
Great conclusion a lot of work for you pleased your happy thanks .
Thank you, I am very pleased its done now
watch out for the predicted aurora in 2 weeks would not want it all rodgered
Well done, thats about as good as you'll get so nice job sticking with it.
Thanks! I am very glad the job is done now
@offgridscotland until you build a tower for the new flat starlink hp dish with a wider field of view lol.
Great outcome for you and well done on your persistence! Reminds me how lucky a 1Gb fibre to the home is!
Thank you it was cetainly an up and down journey
Great conclusion and the big reduced in the monthly running cost win win
Thanks I am really pleased now its done
Even though I'm almost never going to need to do something like this it's been interesting watching how this has come together, glad it's working well for you. The technology is only going to improve in future years so you'll no doubt have much faster options available at some point too.
Thank you it was a messy journey but I am pleased its done
I'm glad you got everything sorted. Even though this might of been a pain, I think you enjoyed it as I I enjoy doing stuff like this my self too. Hope it did not cost you too much and you make your money back from RUclips adverts.
In the end it was ok for cost and I certainly learned a lot doing it which is why I dive in to things I have no experience in.
Ok, so i work for a uk telco and there is a couple of things you'll want to do - an uncapped Pay Monthly sim from each of the 4 major networks - EE, Voda, 3, O2 - Typically EE has the highest performance, then its a toss up between Voda and 3 depending on area, O2 are typically last. Not all packages from the suppliers are uncapped, some are speed capped at 10, or 100Mbit for example. So even if all equipment and the local cell is able to go faster, you wont get it. Beyond this yes the routers band compatibility and things like its ability to do multi carrier aggregation across the bands and what channel widths they can do will vary wildly. The good and customisable 4/5G routers aren't typically cheap in the short term. Perhaps buying from amazon and testing with people you know have uncapped sims on a particular network is a good way to go, as amazons return policy is probably the most relaxed. - Just my 2 cents in what i've done and what i'd do if i were you.
I think others have said the 3 network has the most bands on this mast so that might be ok. Thaks on the carrier aggregation that sounds like a good way forward.
one thing to consider even if they have more bands, that's not always better. You'd need to consider what bands they are and also how wide each band is and also they may have deployed lots to it but it could rely on a slow backhaul currently awaiting a future fibre upgrade so in the meantime despite all the cells being upgraded, using many and wide bands, performance could still be bad - the lower bands are typically slower too with just the physics of it.@@offgridscotland
Congratulations on settling on a good solution, consuderjng where you are 100)40 is great. Many Australians in the ciies cant achieve that, and if rural Australia was lucky to get such a speed it wouild cost them far more, like $90 for 400GB data limit, not $20 (which is roughly what 10GBP works out to in AUD)
Thank you, the speeds are working pretty well for us at the moment
Reliability wins. While 30% more down on good days might be fun, your critical workload is upload, and for that you're not close to what the 100BASE-TX link will do.
So I'd stake down the cable, put a pole at the midpoint where the 2-port switch is, and only then, maybe, experiment with mast height if upload speed drops in wet/snowy weather.
Thank you those are wise suggestions
Its certainly created a wide gamut of discussion path's & glad your happy & satisfied. This video may well live on for a very longtime. By way of people passing on further tips-n-knowledgable tricks in the comments. You may want to jokn a off-grid forums & create a thread for the community?
Thats an amazing idea! it would certainly help for some of the more complicated future projects
I'm a little disappointed that you didn't try the " passive repeater" route using that pair of high gain yagis ..
But I'm really happy you've got it working
Mast ( apart from the cable run ) look a lot more robust..
( Suggestion put the Ethernet cable inside some pipe, to prevent it being damaged by foot fall ( deer other animals ) or accidentally by humans )
Then maybe bury it, one spade cut deep 😊
All the Best John ( Cheltenham)
Ps: if you want to get double your capacity your going to need to double everything you have ( except the mast ) and fit a duel WAN / Router which is capable of load balancing at the house end )
It won't speed up your internet speed for an individual circuit ( i'e uploading a file ) but will increase your capacity when uploading two or more files 😀
PPS: if you could grade you POE injector ( to match the ethernet cable rating ) you won't need a second run of çable, BUT you would need to do the " load balancing" ( between the LTE modems ) at the antenna end 😕
Personally ( should you decide to got down this route )
I like the idea of two runs of ethernet better than placing ( what will likely be a power hungry device ) at the Antenna end ..
I was thinking the same with the double setup and a load balancing equipped router. If the price is good for unlimited then doubling it would be well worth it for a speed increase. I don't know much about 4g router setups but if it exists a duel sim load balancing all in one to remove the need for double runs of Ethernet or a switch at the pole end.
Thanks I remembered your previous comment but I was a bit burned out from this project and another variation was a bit much for my energy levels at the moment. I thought of you for a project I have comming up though where I want to install a remote camera up the hill to monitor our hydro inlet and remembered about what you said about the yagis to beam the signal back to us, although I am not entirely sure this would work
Don't give up, you have the cables and there are Gigabit (aka 10/100/1000Mbps) PoE repeaters available on-line for about £60-70. Unfortunately, RUclips won't let me post the link to them.
Thanks! I will likely get back to it once I have a bit more energy for it. This one burned me out a bit
@@offgridscotland LOL the quest for decent rural internet has burnt me out for years!!
I'm happy it's made a difference to you regardless, 100mbps is still above the UK average.
As for you mentioning you can't pick up the other bands I put the postcode through Three's issues page and they are saying they're currently working on the mast so that might be the reason you're only getting the only band.
Quick for a brief description of your bands so you're aware if it does come through bands 3 and 1 are the main performance bands of your mast with 28 being a good speed long range band and 20 being not as fast but also long distance.
If you do get those bands appearing again and if band 1 isn't going to be moved over to 5G (not super speed 5G, honestly band 1 on 5G is only a bit faster than on 4G) but 3+1 usually gives you increased download and upload performance as those are commonly used together in both directions.
Ah that might make sense. I did have to rescue someone working on the mast the other week because they got stuck with their quadbike so maybe it will have band 1 back online later on. Thanks for the explanation I diddnt know what each band meant. Its defaulting to band 3 at the moment
Mistakes are just stairs to success
Thanks, In the moment its hard to feel that way but in the end I always feel I have at least got somewhere
Another advantage compared to starlink, would be the low power draw, as star link uses on average 60W for just the satellite dish while a 4g modem would use more around 10W while its only probably around 50W in savings I would guess there are times when off gird that every Wh would count (Bad solar days,etc)
You are right! after removing starlink our base line power has gone from 250-260w down to 150-180w so thats a massive difference! We are also using two internal routers and the external one with this setup so thats an amazing trade in power consumption
I enjoy watching this project.
I have a pretty different challenge:
I want a link between two buildings:
- approximately 300m
- with neighbors property between
- through forest
- over terrain.
If I get 1 Mbit I'm satiy, because it's mostly for IoT, but sometimes to save mobile data, but not heavy streaming.
I have considered WiFi HaLow, but I don't know if the terrain/forest is too heavy
I have considered POE cable extenders (like you use) but I want to avoid it because of other owners and worry about protection of cable, especially where crossing drivable path.
I have considered fiber, but the same worries as with POE cable extenders
You would want a point to point system such as Ubiquiti’s offerings. Take a look at their site and I’d be happy to answer any questions you have.
That sounds like a tough one. There are many many experts in the comments of my internet videos so I am sure they can help you out. I dont know very much but they have helped me out
@@tylercliff5870 I found different WiFi 5-7 products there, but no WiFi HaLow, or other sub GHz.
I have tried to reuse P2P devices from a 5 GHz link, but the range was reduced because of obstructions .
For the love of god, YOUR 4G SIM IS THE LIMIT!!!!
The theoretical maximum limit of 4G 150Mbps down and 75Mbps up.
The only way you will get faster is a dual sim modem with aggregation.
I’ve been an RF engineer for the past 15 years, but a simple google search will tell you that.
Thanks for letting me know I should have found you in the first video
i have this cool idea of aggregating for example 4 different service providers together to get a massive throughput to your home in terms of internet speeds
What you’re describing does indeed exist and is referred to as cellular binding. The technology has existed for many years now, but it’s not widely known as its application has mostly been limited to the broadcast industry fast a means of relaying live camera feeds out in the field from often remote locations where internet connectivity is unreliable back to a central studio. A single cellular connection is very often too flaky to send a video stream over, so it is not uncommon for professional-grade video encoders to feature an integrated bonding router, which is capable of bonding four or even more discrete cellular modems using SIMs across all major providers alongside a WiFi or hardwired Ethernet connection if available. The benefits to this are twofold: aggregating connections often yields sufficient bandwidth to make a high-quality 1080p, or even 4K, steam feasible, where a single connection wouldn’t offer a fast enough upload rate. Also, depending on how you configure such a setup (there are many approaches), bonding provides redundancy, so that if one or more internet connections fail, the stream can still continue uninterrupted over the remaining available connections, albeit at a lower bitrate if necessary.
Look into a company called LiveU if you’re interested in what this kind of technology looks like. The cast majority of approaches to cellular bonding are hardware based, but there is one software solution on the market I know of called Speedify, which is a subscription-based service. They have applications that you can install across various OSes, even including Android and iOS, which essentially allow you to utilise as many internet connections as you have at your disposal and bond them together in a behaviour of your choosing. Many of the Off-the-shelf products for bonding are highly expensive, so a DIY approach I’ve seen various people in the live-streaming community adopt is to get a Raspberry Pi, install Speedify on it, connect a few USB 4G modems to it and power the Pi using a power bank, giving you your very own portable bonding router solution for a very low cost.
Some others had talked about routers that used more than one sim but I am no expert as you have probably seen. Sounds amazing though!
Speedtest does store all your previous results with coordinates. May be worth looking through previous results.
Thanks I used 3 devices for the tests but I have them all in a folder so I will revisit them
Some places in the Cambo Estate can get fttp via OR o.0 you checked recently?
I diddnt check but the neighbours are all using cellular or starlink and everyone around talks about the lack of cabled internet so If we could get it It might end up being very expensive to have connected as it doesnt run past our road
Hi mate, another great video. I wish I got your speeds, I'm in Sydney and we have the NBN, national broadband network which I hard wired to my router, my router is hard wired to my PC and I only get about 36 down and 8 up. If I use the WiFi it is single digits So yeah I'd love your speeds.
Thanks! Wow I have heard from others that Australia doesnt have great internet so I feel super lucky now
@@offgridscotland Yeah mate, it's no joke, I wish I could point one of you're antennas somewhere here and half of your speed. It was bitter sweet to watch. Imagine you could hardwire to the Scottish network......if you're getting those speeds wirelessly it'd be bloody quick Keep the videos coming mate, very chill.
I'm really interested to hear why you ditched starlink, as I've been looking in to it as well. We are getting about 50/10 up/down through a dsl line and starlink promises way more. I've also been looking into 4g/5g like you are, and the speeds here are actually really good (300-500mbit) but it's the latency and unreliability that kills the deal for me.
I went into it in part 1 ruclips.net/video/8Jmm07B2pHU/видео.html but we were only getting 8mb upload and it never went any higher. The downloads were about the same as what we are getting now if not a little lower but the £75 monthly cost for worse speeds was annoying me. They also promised higher speeds here for us but that was what we were getting in reality. For us the hillsides arent great for sky coverage so that could have been a contributing factor
outdoor router just forked openwrt custom firmware and resell it. there is also another fork of openwrt called rooter developed by some aussies which is really good, you could build you own 4g/5g router with your own cat16 or 5g m.2 pci modem, you will get decent speeds and also carrier aggregation where mutiple bands are merged together to give higher throughput.
i use openwrt with a Quectel rm520n-gl modem and get speeds of roughly 300-500mbps
if you want an off the shelf solution solution consider gl.inet GL-X3000 product, which has the latest RM520N-GL module and is backward compatible with 4g, only issue is the GL-X3000 is not outdoor and you will have to replace the antenna for external, or possible find a waterproof enclosure for it and poe injector
I had thought about making my own as you said but I was already a long way down this project when the thought occured to me. Wow your speeds are amazing!
What you really should check if your Netgear Router (which is your Wifi AP in your home?) is enabling QoS. What this does, it will prioritize Network traffic. So you start downloading a 10GB file (for example a hetzner test file) and you do a speed test. Normally it will split the band with. But with QoS it will show you that the download takes longer because the speedtest gets nearly all bandwith and showing you the near real speed, because it is higher ranked than a 'normal' file download. No worries after the speed test all bandwith go back to the file download. Same with voice, thats even higher ranked. This made for me a highly impact when i relayed on a 4g router with limited speed.
Great I diddnt know that I will have a look into the settings and see If I can sort it out
Just a thought. Did you consider AC routers/dishes and AX Routers/ Dishes and the last one 60GHZ as your backhall.
I would like to say I had considered them but I am new to most of this so I havent even heard of them. I will have a look into them now though thanks!
@@offgridscotland it seems my response gets deleted
Use makeMKV or handbrake to shrink video files, and keep the same quality it’ll help with up load.
I haddnt heard of them thanks I will check it out
if u went with point to point set up you should have watched a few videos on that specific ptp link
I did watch a couple but I couldnt get it to work so I gave up and went with the cable
56 up is still 60fps 4k live for RUclips. If you didn't sell the Yagi you could consider using them for meshtastic LoRa
I have been looking into LoRa for a future remote camera video and wondered if the yagis would work or not. I want to beam video though and I dont know if LoRa can send that much data
@@offgridscotland I'm still pretty new but from what I understand it's best used for smaller packets Such as meshtastic. Any real way to send video packets would be a waste of time/resources. Depending on the use case for the camera the product likely already exists in the form of a 4G rugged camera. Thanks for taking us through the process with you it's the reason i subbed. It's only when you find a strange use case for something you can see potential flaws it's a shame starlink didn't work out in your use case but I'm excited to follow along as you figure things out. Just think we are only a year or something from the "always connected revolution" that true satellite connected everyday consumer devices will bring. And who knows how much better starlink will fair when the starship is operating and building the global fleet of satellites. Good luck either way and I'll eagerly await future content.
Hey you could have had a mikrotik lte dish with their gpen extenders to get to the mast would have been better and cheaper 😅 and if you use a mikrotik hap ac2 you would have a pretty nice system
Thanks! I bet they would have been better than the ones I got
Not an expert here but may I suggest getting a 4x4 mimo 4g antenna ?
4x4 unlikely to benefit in rural environment. 4x4 mimo is more for suburban urban, as it helps with the increased fading. A 4x4 antenna and router likely cost me 400 (cos I'm about to do it 😁)
That will be effective only if the base stations that provide you service have MIMO configured and working. And as @Phone_Geek mentioned, in rural environments that is not very likely to be installed yet.
@@Phone_Geek I see . Make sure you document the process and make a video about it I love this stuff 😆
@@joseespadinha6343 True True but since he is trying everything anyways I thought might as well give it a shot 🤷🏼
@greg.dg_ been meaning to. I'm doing the background to it etc, just not sure people just want seeing the install process. The background will help understand and improve their performance. Done so for many people
I would not recommend you to force the router to a specific band because in case the baseband/radio that is proving you service in that band goes down, you may be out of service, and in case no other neighbor base station have the same band configured you'll be completely out of service. In automatic search the router will be choosing the best cell available in any band the router can work with. Seems that your service provider is Three, and below are the LTE bands your router is seeing:
Band 1 -> LTE2100
Band 3 -> LTE1800
Band 20 -> LTE800
Band 28 -> LTE700
Absolutely what I was going to say! Locking to bands is best used for testing purposes
I did wonder that, I left it on automatic after giving it a try because I diddnt want it to go off like you said because I had messed with it too much
Considering unsuccessful attempts to connect with manually selected band, is it possible that only single band coverage is available at the location ? And current speeds are reached without any carrier aggregation (using several bands at the same time) active?
I remember being surprised some time ago, when enforcing 4G/LTE fallback on my phone led to 4xCA network connection with download speed reaching 380 Mbits.
Quite a difference compared to default "5G" NR connection speed of 160 Mbits at the same time and place. However this was in an urban area of course.
@MrZacker77 cellmapper shows multiple bands for all operators on that site. So should have some CA. I did some tests for a vid around vodafones flagship salford quays area as 5G launched. My 6yr old 4G was way faster to download
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most likely on the random 200 is you were in a reflection of the mast that mast repeats down the valley or just walked too far and picked up a random mast all together
Yea it must have been something random occurring. likely what you suggested
The 3 mast you are using has a bendwidth of 15MHz - I would expct 90-120Mbps max from that site. There isn't an infinate amount of speed available on a cell mast - you're limited by what the mast is putting out and it looks like you're maxing out whats available. Maybe try another network? O2 (and shared Vodafone in Scotland is usually 10MHz which gives 60/70Mbps so avoid that. Try EE as they tend to have at least 20MHz on some sites which could make a difference.
Thanks I am glad to hear that we are atleast at the max speeds avaliable. 3 have locked me in to a contract now but I will try my wifes sim again and see what differences that makes
To get Fiber here in the country side to my home it cost me 1800€ and 65€ each month
So I am not doing too badly with the costs of this setup
If you need any tips for configuration of the network part, not the cellular part feel free to ask me
Thanks! I dont want to look at it for a little while as it was a bit manic while I was trying to get it working but I will remember your kind offer if I am having another crisis
Can you link your eBay account here so we can keep an eye out for some 2nd hand kit ?
Sure here is what I have at the moment I am not sure how to actually link the whole account www.ebay.co.uk/itm/126475731012
maybe use mikrotik ... its a learning curve but it is an awsome product ..cheap and it just WORKS
They look great thanks for pointing them out
How much have you spent on this project!!! You could have bought a new house with wifi by now....
Yea I know!
Over 100mb download and 40 upload is very good i don't even get this much speed on o2 and Vodafone the both phone mast around 500 meter away from my house
Thank you, I am happy now but at the time I was hoping for more
starlink? what do you need from internet anyways, when being off-grid, off-internet. yeah old 2g+ speeds are just fine.
We had to leave starlink because the speeds were too slow ruclips.net/video/8Jmm07B2pHU/видео.html
Please install an ethernet surge arrestor
Thanks I have got one on order as others also mentioned it
Maybe try asiking the operator about the max speed possible at the specific tower so you know if you getting max or if you dont getting max speed
LOL good luck with that one! Three Technical Support is "Please turn it off and back on again" followed by "Please reset your device"
I will look into contacting them although they are difficult to get a hold of
an hour for a 30min vid?! I think you are rendering in much too high a bit rate - for 1080p MP4 H.265 6Mb/s is more than enough
Thanks I will check my upload settings as it always takes that long.
Your main issue is the copper cables that you take power from. My advice is to not invest in POE anymore. You'd be much better of with a 110v or 230v secondary cable next to the cat6 (or better optic fiber for higher speeds). You can use a transformer in an IP68 case where your power cord comes in, and let the data wire do it's own thing. I'm specialized in working with Electronics and worked in IT before this. Copper wires aren't suitable for longer distances, and it seems that a lot of companies make the claim that they do. Lot's of packages will get lost. This is what I constantly see in the field of industrial automation. Another thing to mention is that POE will create issues in power loss due to the fact the wave isn't a perfect sinus.
ah ok thank you
Should have used a COAX cable and ditched poe for the long wire. There is a standard called MoCA that can do up to 2.5 gigabit ethernet over a coax cable. A set costs about £140. The current Ethernet repeaters are janky ad just a plain bad idea. Armoured coax should be cheaper too
Certainly a good call here!
I don't see much benefit of using a system that can archive way more speeds he can't get anyway, even in the future. And secondly, those cheap MoCA systems need a power line, so two cables instead of one, so that is a huge downside. You also need to weatherproof it. I've been running POE system for a decade, it's nothing janky about it. It's the industry standard for a reason, and that also mean you can get parts for it everywhere and at low prices. Can cheap repeaters fail? Probably, just like a cheap MoCA interface probably can fail too... just buy a slightly better one next time. And as pointed out by others, the speed limit on long distance POE with passive repeaters (a $30 repeater mind you) is 1 gigabit, and can technically extend to 1.5 km with multiple repeaters.
@@Kowalski301 no nothing wrong with POE, it's awesome for local networking - but using multiple repeaters to span long distances is just a total bodge, that's exactly why repeaters made for this job are janky, and will make for an unreliable network. The proper way to do it is with fibre or coax etc - you could then use a solar panel and battery to power the 4g router
@@Kowalski301 haha 1500m? So 14 repeaters and a 4g router powered from a single 50w POE port - don't fink so mate
@@Sydney268 Mikrotik GPeR, you can have up to 210 meters between two repeaters, so you only need 7 in total for 1500 meters. However, I'm not here saying you should try to make a 1500m Cat 6 system, I just mentioned it as something that supposedly is possible. What I am saying is that rare, expensive and semi- proprietary coax or fiber systems is completely overkill and totally the wrong product for only 200 meters 4G. Also, he has already ditched the solar and battery system as it add even more cost, complexity, and things to go wrong.