The Best 3D Printer From Creality? K1C Review - This Is Not What I Expected
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- Опубликовано: 8 июн 2024
- The Creality K1C is not the 3d printer I expected it to be.
There are a number of things that they have got right and a couple they might have got wrong but, by the end of this video, you'll see why I believe this is the best Creality 3d printer I've ever owned.
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I'm glad it's an improvement over the K1, but I have seen others still have VFA issues. I don't think Creality has a great extruder design. For my money, I'd definitely go with a Q1 Pro. The Qidi X-Plus 3 has a heated chamber and much larger build area for the same price as the K1C not on sale. The Q1 Pro has a heated chamber and slightly larger build area for slightly less money with a coupon, even when the K1C is on a deep sale like now. I do think this is the best machine Creality has to offer, but I hope the K2 is an improvement still.
Hey Ricky, great review Creality has also taken the K1C chages and have added the to the K1MAX. the first K1 max I had was a dog. It was replace with an upgraded version and I have had no problems. It just prints! knock on wood
I got one less than 2 weeks ago. So worth it!
Great review. As a K1 owner I have not encountered most of the issues you mentioned. The bed mesh was one I struggled with, but after re-setting the belt and printing some spacer to put under the mounting points the mesh was within acceptable tolerances.
That being said, there is one issue that you haven't mentioned nor tested with your K1C (at least you didn't mention it). TPU filament through the sensor and PTFE tubing causes all types of issues. They all come down to the extruder gear having too much resistance to feed the filament without jamming. The solution is a "tower" with a bearing spool holder that sits on top. You have to remove the lid to get it installed and working. Once installed it does print TPU well, even NinjaFlex. Of course you have to trick the filament sensor by putting a piece of filament inside.
I know the K1 had it's share of bad reviews, but I've been happy with mine. I've printed PC, PA, ASA and ABS without issue. I did replace the OEM build plate with a standard (bumpy) PEI plate. I haven't had to use any adhesive for any of these and have not seen any adhesion issues.
Last, you mentioned opening up the firmware. I've done so with success. It does indeed offer more features. Some are very much needed. However, the down side is when the Creality updates get posted the printer wants to replace your hard work with the newer OEM version. I made the mistake of installing an update and just haven't taken the time to put the unrestricted version back on my system. It seems to work okay with the OEM firmware.
ha, same, printed shims to level the bed and apart that have not done anything besides putting a CHT nozzle and it's been printing hundreds of prints with no failures at high speeds. Really hard to tell why some videos hate K1 or have troubles with it.
Hi Ricky, I didn't wait for your review on the Creality K1C, I did get one! And like you I am really found of this machine, just missing the heated chamber, but for the rest it's a wonderful printer! 😎 Great review!!!
I just grabbed a K1 Max. Love it! I had an s1 Pro and bought a Sonic Pad. But I had so so many problems. Rather than throw money at them, I decided to just grab the max. I dropped my nebula camera and sonic pad off at UPS to go back to Amazon today!
I’ve really liked my k1 however I did have some of the problems with the extruder and hotend but I switched it out with a printed extruder that has worked very well and the hotend was replaced with a bamboo style hotend. In terms of the vfa’s I did have that but I doubled speed and accel and that got rid of it
looking forward to seeing your review on A1 as i have just bought one👍👍
A1 is my 12th printer and it blows the K1 out the water, not always in speed, but in ease of use and reliability it's incredible. Especially on sale for £419 with AMS lite
excellent review! thank you
Hi Ricky great rewiew
I have a K1max and only issues i have had are bed level issues was great for 1st six months then went out dished in middle section, solved issue with rubber springs installed in place of solid spacers, also increased flow rate this seemed to lay down a better first layer(increaded to 110%)would love you to make a tutorial on klipper and mainsail on a K series machine to teach us why we should root our machines
Mike
Can you just not pre-heat the bed and then get it to do its mesh to get around the warping issue?
Tempting to get rid of my pair of Ender3Pro's for one of these..
Qidi tech still the only affordable option for those who need active chamber heating. Not sure why other manufacturers are so slow to catch up.
I found the Q1 Pro a much better compromise since it's similarly sized but it has a heated chamber which does wonders, and at a very competitive price. Support is also much more reactive than Creality. Qidi nozzles are also very reasonably priced.
Waiting for K2 delivery :D
I have a K2 Plus pre-ordered. It's going to be my first 3D printer. I'm excited.
Were you one of the lucky 50% off guys? Lucky
Yep! I got it with 50% off on day one. It was actually hours after the sale started though. I was there from the start and saw it "sell out" instantly, but I kept refreshing and one came back in stock hours later and I grabbed that.
@@lornelorne5727 omg. I had it in my cart and never could get it to work :(
The QIDI Q1 PRO has chamber heating
How dose the Q1 pro compare to the k1c? They about the same price for me?
polymakers Carbon fiber Nylon blends print between 280-300, and in my experience it likes temps on the lower range of that, I generally print it at 285 so this printer can def handle some carbon fiber or glass fiber nylons
The best creality printer probably still ranks like 10th
Well dang, now I'm conflicted between a K1 Max and a P1S for my next one.
P1S.....or "P2S" if that will be their next release after their annual sale.
@@Denniss7420 I know the day after I buy one, they'll announce the next model. Might as well do it today :P
C is for the Camera ;)
You going get the K2 Plus? I see that one as being the best Creality makes.
No discussions as yet. I don't always get the new ones as I think some manufacturers may be wary of my complete honesty😬
@@RickyImpey yeah, some companies do want to get people that are more easily compelled to say nice things. I bought one at the 40% off. So will be getting to see how it is 1st hand.
Had the K1 for a while. Now getting key111 error. Changed the nozzle board and mother board and still the same issue. Creality are not helpful as the machine was preowned. I bought it just outside the warranty. Disappointed as it was actually a good machine when it worked.
For me, nothing matters as much as a solid heatbed. But seeing that they are still unable manufacturing flat and perfect heatbeds, I always feel satisfied when I think about my X1C and how low the maintenance is with bambu printer. I really tried hard liking my ender 3 s1 pro, building an enclosure and upgrading it with stuff, but the heatbed was always a bottleneck in terms of quality. I hope I will never again have to level each and every stupid corner of this hardcore uneven bed... so ridiculous that I have to use tinfoil to make it somehow work... never again creality.
Tbh the bed leveling issues on the k1c seem to be absolutely minimal in terms of the real world problems they cause, especially compared to the k1 max. But im with you in that if I get burned once buy a company, I'm not trusting them again, idgaf how much they've improved
Hey Ricky (sounds like there’s a song there somewhere😂) the U.K. link hasn’t taken properly. It means I’ve got to do more work 🙄😉
what about the K2? In any case, creality lost me as a costumer completely with the move of the k1c. They left the K1 customers in the rain and refuse to upgrade the parts to make the print work properly. Glad I bought a X1C after the blunder with my K1
Good luck to those that preordered the K2... I hope they don't need it thou.
@@ywsx6489 I can't believe people have preordered over 3 months ahead of time with zero reviews after what a mess the K1 was overall.
"Nothing else at this price range that does have (chamber heating)"? Are we ignoring the Qidi Q1 Pro ($439) in that statement?
I have a budget of 800 euros. P1p or this one?
They are both on sale right now. K1C for $415 USD on crealitys aliexpress store. P1S for $600 USD on bambus store. Not really but kinda in the same price tier. Here's a comparison:
K1C advantages:
- Open source firmware (some people couldn't care less, some people see it as absolutely essential)
- Nice, large, easier to use touch interface
- Camera is waaaaaay better
- Comes with hardened nozzle (can buy hardened Nozzles for P1S, but it's an additional charge)
- Replacement nozzles are way cheaper (since you don't have to buy the whole hotemd with it)
- Bed temp gets hotter (both spec sheets say 100c, but K1C actually accepts gcode for 110-120c). This is a bigger deal than you may think, since some high temp materials do a little better with temps just over 100c
P1S advantages:
- Slightly better print quality (but i mean very slight, you probably wouldn't notice in practice)
- Slightly better first layer (again, probably imperceptible in the real world)
- Waaay better customer service
- Supports bambu lab's excellent AMS multi material add on
- Can actually get .2mm nozzles from OEM (with K1C you can get them if you upgrade to the microswiss hotend, but it's still annoying as hell that creality makes a proprietary nozzle then doesn't sell .2mm)
- Quicker to change nozzles
- Nozzle brush isn't attached to bed, so you can use double sided beds (K1C can fix this with easy mod)
- Print volume is a little bigger (filament cutter cuts into print volume a little, but you can get around that when not using AMS, and anyways it's still a little bigger)
Oh just thought of one more advantage for the P1S. The Bambu smartphone app is better than the Creality one. Of course, you can just use a fluidd app for the K1C which would be way better, but theres one problem: you lose remote print monitoring. You can get around this by just using a vpn to tunnel to your home network, but beginners don't want to do that shit. Of course, that method would allow you to monitor prints remotely without your camera feed (which can potentially see inside of your house) going through some company's cloud, which some may see as a huge advantage. Also worth noting that the Bambu app has some other features you may or may not care about (and the Creality app does have most of those features tbf, but I just find that it's cluttered and unpleasant to use)
I'm sorry that point was so intense lol, it's pretty nuanced but overall the smartphone companion app experience on the Bambu is a pro for the P1S. How big of a pro it is depends on your needs
It's on sale right now get the p1s ASAP don't even think about!!
@@alycapo3391 I'm going to buy p1s?
I recommend checking out Qidi. I would definitely pick the X-Plus 3 or Q1 Pro over the K1C.
You look a lot like Sheldon Cooper
I sacked Creality after spending a small fortune with them on various printers through the years, all them had issues and Creality only ever tried to fix one of them, The Ender 5 Plus, and their FW fix made it worse.
I didn't even consider buying a K1 as I knew it would be a disaster, I got an X1 Carbon Combo.
I wonder if Creality will make future FW updates for the K1? now that they have the K1C out and the K2 just about ready for their customers to beta test it. LOL
Unfortunately, the savvy consumer will always look to a companies track record. At least they are making an effort to move the chains.
The number one reason for not purchasing this printer... It's not a Bambu.
A bit crap if you bought the K1. I hate the way Chinese companies use their customers as beta testers.