How to Build a Pole Barn Pt 4 - Banding & Bracing for Trusses
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- Опубликовано: 28 ноя 2024
- This is the fourth in a series on how to build a pole barn or pole garage. This video shows how to get the structure ready to set trusses.
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I use your videos in my Geometry class at times.
My country kids love hearing a smart man that talks like us!
+Philip Oliver Hahaha
That’s some funny shit right there !!! Southerners may not sound smart, but always impress in real life over some college educated kid with no life skills 👍🏻
I've watched all through this process, and I'm enjoying every step as you go into great detail of how you are going about it and your explanations of why and how makes all the sense in the world. I have seen pole buildings after they have been built but watching your videos has helped me to fully understand one of the best ways to actually wind up with a 99.9% perfect building. Years ago I had a carpentry instructor in vocational school tell our class that if a building was plumb, square, and level within an 8th. of an inch, you can pretty much call it perfect; and that is what I am witnessing here. Thanks so much!
I am getting ready to build my barn. And as an added bonus, I am building a shooting room/sniper's nest in the back of the top, looking out over my food plot...When I get it finished, I will try and post a video of it for all the hunters..I liked watching your videos...Thank you for posting...
+mike s Outstanding! I appreciate you watching the videos. Can't wait to see the sniper hide!
A friend of mine built one in the top of his barn. its heated,has a fridge in it, a comfortable chair, has a small 12x12 door in the top that opens up for spotting/shooting, and best of all, its hidden...out of sight, no animals or no one would know its there unless he shows you...
@Hello Mike how are you doing
Not only do I appreciate the excellent information and pleasant personality, but the time it takes to make these videos!
Best series on how to build a pole barn on your youtube. Excellent information. I will be utilizing much of it very soon.
Mike Heinicke Thanks Mike. I appreciate the encouragement!
@1:30"didn't want to get into a debate with all of the internet experts" lol stellar! I loved that, I am always amazed no matter what channel or video I watch there is always some keyboard warrior who thinks he should spout off about how the poster is doing it wrong. Forgetting the fact that the poster has been kind enough to share this with us and we should be thankful and not critical. Fine if your just adding advice or sharing a tip as I do appreciate those now and then. For those that just want to ridicule, you should just move along.
Rob S Thanks for the encouragement, Rob. I try to stay away from the pissing matches and just thank folks for watching and let it be. Those keyboard fights go on and on and are just too darn exhausting for me.
"deep-seated fear of commitment"...😂 When it comes to building anything, I can relate. Thanks for a great series to help folks like me.
greatwork and good explaining that a regular guy understands! much appreciation! thanks
Very informative videos, since watching these I had the courage to start my own pole barn!! I'm doing it in stages and I watch your videos in stages when I'm ready for that part... Thanks for the help!
Hmmm I hope you watched his part 8 before you started your project.....
I'm amazed that you're doing the whole job by yourself. Good job.
+Rebekah Davignon a lot of fun but tough for sure!
Excellent, job, Feddie, thanks from all of us!
Its a pleasure learning from you 🙏
I’m actually building a pole barn, so much fun!
can't wait to see this thing done. Thanks for filming this and sharing your expertise with the rest of us.
You're welcome. I appreciate you watching and commenting! The trusses are up now. I have a few loose ends to wrap up before I put the roof on. I'll get that video out zoo hopefully. Stay tuned...
for a one man show, you really do a great job of putting these video's together
Ezdon Loritz Thanks!
It's really good to see how a perfectionist does it, because that's the way I 'try' to build things. Thanks for going into so much detail and explaining the why and how of what you are doing. I must not have been paying attention watching the laser setup with the receiver, but I caught on in this video. You're really sharp, thanks again.
thanks for taking the time to video and post all of your work, I know it takes you a LOT longer, having to stop and tell how and why your doing things as compared to just building your barn and be done with it
I am really enjoying this series. Another way to strengthen your double beams besides the glue and lag bolts is place a piece of sheet metal full length between the two boards. Then you can lag it up tight. Don't believe it will work?, take a piece of 28 ga. galvanized metal 8" x 24" lay it flat and see how easy it will bend, now rotate 1/4 turn and try to bend it edge wise. Can't wait to watch the rest of the series.
John Grange Great tip. Thanks for sharing! I appreciate you watching the videos.
Thanks for nailing it down plain and simple
1:49 Frost heaving is where the moisture in the soil freezes. Just like putting a water bottle in the freezer and seeing it expand the bottle, the frozen moisture will expand in the soil and it puts pressure on posts, foundations, footings, etc. The colder it gets and longer it stays that way means the further down the moisture in the soil will freeze. That pressure pushes up on the post. When it warms up it resettles to a point but after years of repeated cycles, it can heave the post out of the ground, crack foundations or basement walls, and rack buildings out of square.
You do an excellent job explaining everything to a tee. Great job man and God Bless!!!
Hey Feddie, just a thought, when I have to set at elevation, I will often stand on my tractor or in my hod. It makes me feel so much more stable and comfortable. Helps the process to move along more quickly. Thanks for great videos
Good tip. Thanks for sharing. I'm always in search of an easier way of things but unfortunately there aint much easy about a 6X6 fourteen foot treated post. Ha! I appreciate you watching!
I just love your entire series. You did an awesome job with the pole barn and the videos. Great editing job. You should be on the DIY network. I am a one woman show and trying to figure out how to get some trusses on a pole barn I am in the process of constructing. I am like you in the fact that I don't like to ask for help. Its just me and one other person trying to get some 30 ft trusses on the pole barn. I am going to do it like you but use a winch on both sides to get it in place upside down and then use a 2x4 to set it up right. Great job. Thanks for taking the time to create the videos.
Thanks for watching and for the kind words. I appreciate it! You're my kind of woman. You got grit, girl! But I'm gonna give you some tough love here. Get at least one more person to help with the trusses. You're gonna need a person on each end and one in the middle holding the truss stable. Can you do it with two? Sure, but setting heavy trusses is dangerous. I'd hate to see ya'll get hurt. Just think about it. When you make your push stick scab a board on it to make it a "Y". That way when you flip the truss it will lock in and give you the leverage to hold it in place and keep it from falling forward or backward. Take a look at my truss video again and you will see what I'm talking about. Good luck and lemme know how it goes. Send me a pic when you get em up.
Good afternoon friend. It's my first time the I watch your video, i liked right away. I'm live in Canada 🇨🇦. Love to see how to build Barnes, garages. I willy like the way you explain everything, the sample way. That's the way I learn, it take me a while to process things, you explain the way everyone can understand, I appreciate. I will subscribe in to your channel, and keep watching more videos. God bless, Happy new year. From Ancaster, Ontario Canada 🇨🇦. Roger.
You was talking about using strings to align everything, strings are the best way to square up everything. A tight string don't lie .
Had I known you were going to do this all alone, I would have come out and helped you! Great Job!
Man, there we a few times that I could have used it! Thanks for watching.
I just think your videos are great. Very helpful and make things easier to understand
Nice job. I was debating on using my tractor to lift my boards too. Glad to see it worked 👍🏻
Great job. Your barn will outlive all of us including all the youtube "experts"...
+ranchand58 Thanks, Ranchhand. I really appreciate the encouragement.
step by step series, very nicely explained. thank you
Hello, I have learned a lot watching your videos. You are really easy to understand and follow thank you for taking the time to record all this.
Cody Grace Thanks for the kinds words. I appreciate you watching!
I think it was awesome job
Frost heavy is 'when the wet underground frezzy and expand and pushes the ground up up north the code is 4' deep ,. Looks great
Your equipment barn will be there for a very long time the way your building it. Great job brother!
best informative building videos I have ever seen, Awesome, Thanx
Thanks Gary!
Awesome- really helping me with doing my pole building right now!! Thanks a lot!!
Frost heave is really easy to understand. Water expands when it freezes. If the ground freezes below your footings, it pushes the footings up. It takes quite a few cycles, but after a couple of years, if your pilings weren't deep enough, your building won't be plumb or square.
-jcr
NSResponder Great tutorial. Thanks for sharing.
I think you have done a very good job on your barn. Very nice work and good planing sir.
Great work there buddy.... I'm glad I took the time to watch all the way through. I picked up to tips along the way I never would have though of myself. again, good work all around and thanks for the videos!
Thanks for the great feedback and encouragement. I'm glad you got something out of the videos. If this weather will ever settle down I'll get the roof on and put Pt 6 on the channel.
Your video helped me a lot. I am looking on RUclips to learn how to build my own poll barn, and your video was one of the best I could find. I will use a lot of your advice and style of building. Thank you for making the videos. I will do the same when it comes time for me to make mine.
Thanks for watching and for the kind feedback. I appreciate it. I'm glad the videos helped out. Makes me feel good to know I have given folks ideas or inspiration! Good luck on your project and let me know how it goes. Let me know if you get in a pinch or if I can help out somehow.
Thank you very much. Please keep making videos.
Will do.
I'm hanging in there. So far so good! Trying to get to the end. I wish I had your expertise on a couple of my projects. I will probably be an expert when I finish.
Cool!
I'm enjoying your video, you explain things perfectly. I'm going to build a pole barn addition to my work shop. I will use what I learned here. Thanks!
Great feedback, Thomas. I appreciate you watching. I'm glad you have gotten something out of the series. Good luck on your project and lemme know how it turns out.
Excellent videos thankyou greetings from ireland
Awesome videos. I am stating a 20 X 20 this spring. You have made this easy on my end.
+Dale Brown Yes! Good luck!
@Hello How are you doing dear
I have enjoyed your series so far. am now retired but also used to do building construction. There are things I would do differently but if it works then I say go for it . This is reference your comment about frost heave and not understanding. Think of what happens if you freeze say a botle of water or other liquid What was adequate for the liquid becomes too small for the frozen . Heave as essentially the same.
James Gass Thanks James. Great explanation of frost heave. I understand it better now!
Thanks for the videos and sharing your skills. I am about to build me a pole barn shop and I have definitely learned some things from you. Thanks again!
Thanks for watching and for the kind words. I'm glad you got something meaningful out of the videos. Let me know how your project progresses!
Looking good so far, I'm off to the next part.
stevenk1965 Thanks!
***** .
Okay, I'm impressed...and maybe stupid. I'm about to use your video series on this DIY pole building to construct a unique 24'x 40' garage addition. The stupid part is I like working alone as well, I'm 66 and in worse shape than you, oh and live in west Michigan. Better get started, it will be really cold soon. Thank you for this series. T-Dub.
To the point and understandable even for the newbie, Thanks
So far so good. I'm learning a lot.
About to start on mine in a few days,a 36x48 shop on 16 ft post on a 8 ft center.
I got a few good ideals from you......Thanks....Great video!
dwight fry Your welcome. Lemme know how it goes. I'd like to hear some updates along the way. Good luck!
Just posting this for others. I saw pictures of an Amish built pole barn and where the 2x12"s are at the top of the posts notched. They used one 2x12 outside of post notched and on the inside another 2x12 not notched for the trusses to set on. They used four big nails on each side. Thanks.
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Really wish I would have notched the posts as you did. I tried hanging the 2x12 header boards by myself and ended up eating one while I was moving from ladder to ladder. The notches would have made it stronger and gave me a place to rest the header board. Great Videos
I feel your pain, Steve. I had an eight foot 2X12 get away from me raising it up with the tractor loader. Came down on my arm. It felt so good when it quit hurting. Ha! I think the bruise is still there!
This is awesome I plan on doing this but with a 30x60 next year
I am pretty sure you can still buy handbook with all details you need on wood prix.
All right Andre
Just thought id leave ya a note, love the videos. Ill be building one in the next yr or so.
Thanks for taking the time to say hello. I appreciate you watching. Good luck on your project!
Looking good from south Texas!
what a great series man thankyou. you are one amazing person. thanks for blessing us with your knowledge.
Really enjoying the video and especially your own personal narrating. Learning plenty. I harvested the tree last month and am ...rather was thinking of a pad and sticks. Very expensive and holding me back. I have not worked or built a pole barn and slightly unsure about what obstacle might bugger me. Your video has really taken the fear out of me and given me the strength and knowledge to begin a 24 by 32 pole barn. I have a back...small 22 hp Kubota to dig holes. If I make small wood frames and place the pole inside before I pour cement will this work?? The Kubota will dig more of a trench thus a wood frame with nails around the bottom of the post then the cement. What is your thought?
r1bourg Thanks for watching. Glad the videos have helped out. I'm not sure I understand what you are describing about a wood frame. Sorry, but I just can't picture what you are trying to say. I'd just dig the holes and set the posts the way I did if you can.
Im in process now to build a pole barn. Site work starting this week. You do a nice job. Thanks for sharing. Country folk can figure out a way. Im in Florida so I will be dealing with permits and Hurricane codes. Im considering buying a Pole Barn Kit that meets code here with plans. Any body have any favorite kit providers in Florida Im all ears.
@Hello Jim how are you doing
I got it to work. Just finished watching the whole series! I will definitely come back to reference when I build mine.
One question though Is when you put your floor in what will you do to seal the edges of the building from water, dirt or anything else getting in from the bottom?
Ryan Bender I can't remember the brand but any good concrete sealer will work. I'd stay away from the stuff you buy at the big box stores like Thompsons, etc. and get a more industrial type sealer from a building supply company.
I am not clear how you used the laser to find level. You showed the receiver sounding off when it found level. But without seeing the location of the tripod and the actual laser I can't put 2 and 2 together! Thanks for all you do my friend.
Fantastic it’s coming on now
I once pulled out at least 100 rotting fence post out and replaced them on a horse farm. they put dry concrete mix in twenty years earlier and every one of the came out of the ground with dry concrete around them. Just add water. trust me brother.
stoneygreek I’m late finding these videos but totally agree with you about adding water mixing the concrete. I had the same experience you spoke about. As a kid we had set tall posts for a lean to add on at our barn. 16 years later after no longer using the building I decided to remove this part of the structure. When pulling the posts found several of them that the outer edges of concrete had set up but the center of mass was still dry powder. I remember my Dad and my Grandfather arguing about it. My Dad was always in a rush and liked to do it different just because he could lol.
But that being said definitely wet the concrete before it goes in the hole.
You make some excellent content 👍. Thanks for your videos and the time you take presenting it..
Hello. I am thoroughly enjoying this video series and I sure hope you have others because I'll be watching them, too! I do have a question which you may or may not be able to answer: When you set poles, what if the soil is sandy/porous, such as in a tropical area? Or, say, subject to frequent rainy seasons? Any advice? We are planning to build a pole barn for temporary shelter on new property until we can build a permanent structure so I'm probably gonna bombard you with a lot of questions!
+Cristina Johnson Hey Cristina. Ireally don't know the answer to your question. I'd rather defer to someone with that experience than preyed to be an expert. :-)
appreciate your video, very informative. Much Thanks
+james P Thanks!
Really enjoying your videos !!
I sure would have Bolted the top band down to the poles and I would have put strapping over them as well. I still remember a bee keeping buddy of mine who called me over to his barn in Blacksburg South Carolina to put his roof back on his pole shed. A big wind came and just flipped his roof right off the shed. upside down in his adjoining pasture.
You are doing a great job on this. Good video too!
its coming along pretty good
+pajamaman40 PJ All done now.
Im getting ready to build a pole barn in the spring. Really enjoyed your video. Thought you did an excellent job explaining everythingt. Especially liked how you figured squaring the building. Was curious why you put your tresses on 8 ft center versus 4 ft. Can you explain advantage of this and what your thoughts are on spacing the tresses. Thanks.
Thanks for watching. I'm glad you got something out of the videos. I'm not sure there's an advantage to using five versus nine trusses other than cost. I did not sheet the roof. It will only be metal so it's not carrying much weight at all. The perlins add the lateral strength. I had an engineer design the trusses and layout so I figure he was smarter about this stuff than me. If you use a prefabbed truss on yours then just make sure an engineer gives you their stamp of approval. Maybe some other viewers can comment on this thread and help out with an explanation. Good luck on your project!
Man I wish I could've done anything at all with my posts before going in the ground. We're in Meigs County on a ridge top. You never know when you're gonna hit solid rock with the auger or not. Not a dang one of our post holes is the same depth and I tore up both sets of teeth plus the auger screw tip just trying to get the holes down three foot. Mostly had to let the auger do what it could then use a bar and hand digger to get close to depth. Got my bands up and will flush cut the posts with a sawzall on the long walls then angle cut the posts on the gable ends once the trusses are up. Frost line in East TN 😂
Great video, you make it look so easy! Thanks
im about to build a 24 x 48..This is helpful. I also use a lazer to put starter strips on for vinyl siding..it works great. Wish i was closer to give you am hand and to get some hands on myself. Im in upstate SC
Outstanding! I'm glad you got something out of the video. Hope it helps out. Yes, the laser rocks! I'll tell you, there have been points along the way I could have used a hand. Right now especially. I have everything done except the roof. Trusses are up, perlins in, sheeted and wrapped, got the metal on sight, etc. Just can't catch a break in the weather and round up a helper or two! I'll have Part 5 - Setting Trusses posted in the next few days. I'm working on the footage right now so stay tuned for that.
We're not that far apart. I'm guessing you are in Greenville/Spartanburg area? I'm in the Bristol area. Heck, lemme know when you start and I might try to run over one weekend!
***** yep just about 10 miles south of Greenville I could help ya with the garage doors thats what i do for a living
Excellent. I may shout at you this spring when I get to that point!
BTW, you ever put in a Liftmaster jackshaft opener? I put some in my house and they are very cool. I have a video on my channel about installing them.
Yea they are nice especially if you dont have enough headroom for a traditional opener. I love liftmaster/chamberlain openers.
Bro Ty building my first pole barn and with the frost line here in Canada we have to be under 3 feet like you
@Hello How are you doing dear
I learn tons...I have zero experience in this and I think it is very interesting. I do have some questions, how do you know how many nails to use and why nails over screws?
Screws don't have as much give, nauls will flex a little for shear and deflection. I'm a mechanic and i like screws but in framing, nails are better.
Fette, coming back and watching this series of builds for the second time, being that you work alone and for strength why not break the front and back banding into three sections making them easier to handle and bear on top of each post? That way you don't have seams under the trusses that are not supported. I'm just asking not trying to try and learn for the future. One of these structures is in my plans.
I'm torn between putting my trusses (×2 on interior posts) over each post like the commercial pole barn builders do at 12' spacing or do 8' spacing with 2x12 double header on truss bearing sides. I'll be adding 1/2" plywood sheeting on top with rubberized material under the metal roof and I'd like to think the way you just did yours with the 2x12 double header on truss bearing sides and trusses at every 2' would be the way to go... Did you add a truss heel to the trusses when ordered? ... if it is to ever be insulated and closed in of course
Before putting the post in the ground drill 2 opposing holes and install 2 pieces of rebar then pore the concrete. Gives the concrete something to hold on to besides the slick 6x6.just saying.
Thanks for a great video collection. I’m going to use this while building my own barn. Mine is going to be just like yours but 24 wide and 32 deep.
Do you have any preferences on your laser level and what is the nail gun you use for framing?
Nice job man I really enjoyed watching I just subscribed I just went and looked at a 30 x 50 I am hoping to get the job and you’ve taught me a lot thank you
Did ya get the job! Looking to do it for myself but I'm in the industry and just want to see how a fellow builder did
really enjoying the videos
Hi there, I am new to your channel, compliments of "Out of The Woods". I am a fairly experienced woodworker, and I like to use screws to tie stuff together. You seem to prefer Ring Shanked Nails. I know that they have great holding power, but don't screws also have great holding power?
@Hello Jeffory how are you doing
i mean no disrespect but here in Australia our building codes dictate you have to have the joint of a structural beam supported but might be different in the USA. Enjoying the series alot and cant wait to start building my own soon. nice work on the check outs also just another tip for the future use a straight edge that can span most of the post with a level and you will get the tops and bottoms perfect just a little trip I've picked up while building houses for the last 5 years or so
andreweasty No offense taken. I appreciate you watching and commenting. I think your comments make a lot of sense. Thanks for sharing!
Why take the screws out? Could you use something like a Senco screw gun that automatically feeds the screws? Do nails provide a superior fasten? I enjoy, and learn from, your videos. Thanks.
What size is the building again? Great video by the way. A lot of great tips, and steps on how to. I plan on starting my 30' by 30' in a few months.
The406montecarlo It's 36X24. Thanks for checking out the vids. Good luck on your project!
Did you pre drill your holes for the lag bolts? Also what kind of framing nailer do you recommend?
Do you know what the industry preference is when it comes to fasteners? What's best, screws or nails?
Hey Feddie, This is a Great video, This is Genius, Keep up the good work. It really helped me out.
Carlos jose Thanks for the kind words, Carlos. I really appreciate you watching.
GREAT JOB !!! Love the videos.
I suppose this is an obvious question, but you "notched" the top of the posts to set the band around the top. Did you also notch the bottom of the posts so that you could set the 2 x 6 bottom band flush with the surface of the posts?
Thanks for watching and commenting. Good question. No, the top of the bottom band is at grade so that's where the earth/grass/mulch will come up to. No need to notch it in.
I love the series! Really appreciate all the detail and insight. I looked through a good many comments and I'm sorry if you have already answered this but I couldn't find it. I have only ever used a bucket of water, tube, and yard stick to check if everything is on level, but I really like the laser you have been using. Just curious, what is that laser called and what is the make and model? I might have to get me one of those. Thanks again!
ddub154 Thanks for watching. I appreciate your comments. The laser is a Bosch. Can't recall the model but it's the one Lowes sells for about 600 bucks.
Your videos are awesome! The 4th video for the pole barn will not play though? Not sure why. Just wanted to let you know
Ryan Bender It just played for me? Thanks for the view and compliments!
I don’t know much about laser transits but I was wondering what kind that you have and if you like it?
You do good work,I do it the same way,Great JOB.
+August Mamolito Yes!!!
How did you check the cross square with the poles in the way of the corners of your string line?
I want you to build my barn. Great educational videos!
great video sir. My company builds lp-gas bobtails and we've been trying to open a a small shop but i think somethink like this will be our best bet. However were gonna try to build it about 16 ft tall using 20 ft posts. Should the principles of everything your doing still be the same. also we were thinking about pouring our pad when we put the poles in. is that something you recommend or do you recommend building the whole pole barn first?
Did you pre drill the holes for the lag bolts?