Nice run down on some of the options for this interesting song. Thanks for posting. I don't know why people feel a need to post negative comments. I don't care if Miles ran down all these scales or anyone, but I think any of them would have liked this video.
Beautifully done- bit i dont believe the chords are accurate. For one there is an emaj7 prior yo the b7. Perhaps others as well. I enjoyed your analysis of the chords shown.
Thanks musicismagic, yes, I mentioned in the video, that depending on the version there could be other chords used. Because of the many possibilities for additional chords etc in other versions I tend to use a tune's 'basic' progression for this type of analysis which isn't intended as a definitive look at a particular recording. Thanks for your comment
yo my dude I know it's a matter of taste. But personally for you- How would you personally approach this song? would you be sticking in a less is more type of deal? Or would you be playing different scales each time through the chorus?
Do you mean different scales over the same chord? Not sure if I would do that, but I would probably follow the chord changes on some but unite other chords with a single scale/mode. Really depends at the time. Sorry if that's a bit vague but I try not to overthink what I play at the time but react to the moment. Thanks for the question
I typically don't go through all scale/chord combinations on the video as that can get boring. It's good to practice all of that yourself to get a feel for what notes within the scale/s work with what chord/s, and how. Thanks for the comment
100% Agree, its hard to evaluate the analysis when you don't have any references and you seem to pick what the mode is based on the head of the tune only. Seriously doubt Bill Evans if thinking about double harmonic modes when he's playing, and it makes a lot of this type of analysis a waste of time. The entire video is based on the sheet, which is like 2% of what is actually played.
@decipheringguitarmusictheory Sorry to interject 4 or 5 years later... but I think a music lesson should definitely involve some music -- TO LISTEN TO!! As for the "play by ear" group posting here -- Why did you tune in to this vid? If you can't handle the analysis, go play by ear. (and don't try to suppose WTF Miles et al were thinking!!!) Open your minds to new ways to hear and play!
Forgive me, I don't wish to rain on anyone's parade, but, seriously, do any of you think that at the original recording of Nardis -- a Cannonball Adderley date for Riverside -- Adderley and Bill Evans and the others discussed these technicalities with Miles? Or even gave them a moment's thought? Or that Evans did so when he played it later throughout his career? In my opinion this is just the kind of analysis that makes for gutless, lifeless performances. I think it's fine if you're an academic and need something to write about, as long as you don't play this way.
I don’t think this guy is implying anything that you say Let me guess, your one of those insecure people who have zero to VERY limited knowledge of music theory and are trying to disguise this fact by attacking the subject.
You are wrong. This is just knowledge not a theory. These are facts. If you have something against knowing than you shouldn't be watching these videos because you are wasting your time. Also, Bill Evans was studiing masters like Ravel so he also did his "theory" work before playing with Miles or whoever.
Its true, doubt most musicians think like this at all. This is just academic masturbation. Its completely pointless to say "this is the mode" when you are looking at the head only. No one is tracking the one of 6 modes this section might be in, they have a few chords and they improvise alterations from the core based on what other bandmembers are doing. You're going down a pointless rabbithole that will never provide any insights about this music.
I would really like to know if Davis was actually thinking this stuff when he composed the piece. Also the soloists. What evidence is there? I played with a guy who ripped through this piece but had no theory, just good ears. Academics have to make a living by coming up with this stuff but if Bill Evans really was thinking along the above ideas then I've got a lot more work to do.
Nice run down on some of the options for this interesting song. Thanks for posting. I don't know why people feel a need to post negative comments. I don't care if Miles ran down all these scales or anyone, but I think any of them would have liked this video.
Thanks for your comment Stephen. Happy you found the video useful
Miles left this tune for Cannonball, but Bull Evans picked it up. Straight up classic. Thanks
Yes, it's one of the best. Thanks for the comment
Keep up the wonderful work. Useful indeed. Thx again. pcHux.
You're welcome
Good video! Keep it up!
This is great, thanks
You're welcome Kevin. Thanks for watching
Beautifully done- bit i dont believe the chords are accurate. For one there is an emaj7 prior yo the b7. Perhaps others as well. I enjoyed your analysis of the chords shown.
Thanks musicismagic, yes, I mentioned in the video, that depending on the version there could be other chords used. Because of the many possibilities for additional chords etc in other versions I tend to use a tune's 'basic' progression for this type of analysis which isn't intended as a definitive look at a particular recording. Thanks for your comment
Good video!
Thank you
yo my dude I know it's a matter of taste. But personally for you- How would you personally approach this song? would you be sticking in a less is more type of deal? Or would you be playing different scales each time through the chorus?
Do you mean different scales over the same chord? Not sure if I would do that, but I would probably follow the chord changes on some but unite other chords with a single scale/mode. Really depends at the time. Sorry if that's a bit vague but I try not to overthink what I play at the time but react to the moment. Thanks for the question
Thank you so much.
You're welcome
u need to play those scales so we can hear how they sound ..against their respecting chords...music is about listening not about theory.....
I typically don't go through all scale/chord combinations on the video as that can get boring. It's good to practice all of that yourself to get a feel for what notes within the scale/s work with what chord/s, and how. Thanks for the comment
U guys can't play a scale over a chord and need it done 4 u?
100% Agree, its hard to evaluate the analysis when you don't have any references and you seem to pick what the mode is based on the head of the tune only. Seriously doubt Bill Evans if thinking about double harmonic modes when he's playing, and it makes a lot of this type of analysis a waste of time. The entire video is based on the sheet, which is like 2% of what is actually played.
LIstening is about theory
@decipheringguitarmusictheory Sorry to interject 4 or 5 years later... but I think a music lesson should definitely involve some music -- TO LISTEN TO!! As for the "play by ear" group posting here -- Why did you tune in to this vid? If you can't handle the analysis, go play by ear. (and don't try to suppose WTF Miles et al were thinking!!!) Open your minds to new ways to hear and play!
Forgive me, I don't wish to rain on anyone's parade, but, seriously, do any of you think that at the original recording of Nardis -- a Cannonball Adderley date for Riverside -- Adderley and Bill Evans and the others discussed these technicalities with Miles? Or even gave them a moment's thought? Or that Evans did so when he played it later throughout his career? In my opinion this is just the kind of analysis that makes for gutless, lifeless performances. I think it's fine if you're an academic and need something to write about, as long as you don't play this way.
I don’t think this guy is implying anything that you say
Let me guess, your one of those insecure people who have zero to VERY limited knowledge of music theory and are trying to disguise this fact by attacking the subject.
You are wrong. This is just knowledge not a theory. These are facts. If you have something against knowing than you shouldn't be watching these videos because you are wasting your time. Also, Bill Evans was studiing masters like Ravel so he also did his "theory" work before playing with Miles or whoever.
Its true, doubt most musicians think like this at all. This is just academic masturbation. Its completely pointless to say "this is the mode" when you are looking at the head only. No one is tracking the one of 6 modes this section might be in, they have a few chords and they improvise alterations from the core based on what other bandmembers are doing. You're going down a pointless rabbithole that will never provide any insights about this music.
I would really like to know if Davis was actually thinking this stuff when he composed the piece. Also the soloists. What evidence is there? I played with a guy who ripped through this piece but had no theory, just good ears. Academics have to make a living by coming up with this stuff but if Bill Evans really was thinking along the above ideas then I've got a lot more work to do.
lol.. chunes