I’ve got a 1972 W-30 I ordered new in 72 and still have it, just finished a 5 year frame off restoration on it, with a complete mechanical upgrade, beautiful handling and performing cars. I’ve had cars from all the big three, this is my favorite. 👍
@@JohnDoe-wy2py I did mostly peripheral work, I’m pretty old now, just turned 75 and handicapped, but still turned some wrenches. I purchased the parts I wanted over a period of time, due to availability, with an Olds, is not always that easy to find OEM pieces. The body and paint, with parts came in at just over $50,000. I replaced the complete interior, including headliner, complete new wiring harness, complete new suspension, full stainless exhaust, all new brake system, when I ordered it I didn’t want power disc brakes, but being a W car it automatically came with front disc manual. I converted it to power when restoring it. The OW trans was sent out and rebuilt, and upgraded as well, is full manual, or full automatic as you choose now, added a slightly higher stall anti ballooning converter. The rear was totally rebuilt, and upgraded to 3:73, from the stock 3:42, complete new fuel system. Engine was totally gone though, built to 1970 specifications, with the exception of compression, is now 11:1 all forged internals, balanced and blue printed, block decked, heads milled slightly, upgraded valve train, hardened seats installed, along with the best guides. The factory carb was completely restored, and jetted for the 70 W-30 camshaft, which was custom ground to factory specifications as well. Factory distributor was converted internally to electronic. I haven’t totaled up everything spent, but I would say $80,000 is a close guess. There’s much more I did that I haven’t mentioned, I have every last original part I took off in boxes in my shop, The power train is all number matching, some bolt on’s are not, but I have the original pieces. It’s a very expensive proposition to do an Olds, I’ve done many Chevys, I did a 69 Yenko Camaro a few years before I pulled this out of storage, and it was easier and much cheaper. I did a 68 W-30 and a 70 W-31 as well before I did this one, but not to the extent of this car, this has special sentiments attached to it, my daughter came home from the hospital in it in 1972, when it was 2 weeks old. And it was my first wife’s car, she has passed on now, so I didn’t spare any expenses. Through the years have rebuilt, or restored more muscle cars than I can honestly remember, without writing them down, not just GM, but from all of the big three, I love all the old iron, irregardless of manufacturer. They’re all great to me. I can say, I do have a special place in my heart for the Oldsmobile though. Just my preference. Had I not gathered and researched the parts, and did some work myself, it would have exceeded $100,000 easily. Not a money making proposition, it’s a labor of love, otherwise you’d be disappointed. Hope that gives you an idea, it’s expensive.
@@Musclecar1972 Thank you so much for sharing this with me. I have seen restoration costs on muscle cars easily exceed $200,000 and I doubt they were done to the level yours is. It must be an amazing car plus you have the satisfaction of knowing how rare it is. I congratulate you on your work. Thanks again. Plus the fact your daughter came home from the hospital In it makes it even more special because we know how our daughters mean everything to us.
@@JohnDoe-wy2py My final total has yet to be determined, but I won’t approach that number, I think if I hadn’t done a lot of research and leg work it probably would have. Luckily I had years of experience to help me save some money, I have been obsessed with muscle cars since I was a young guy. Still am, just to old a fossil to deal with them anymore. LOL
@@Musclecar1972 I hope you have someone you can pass the car too after you are gone and that they will appreciate your labor of love. Something like that should be appreciated for generations to come.
I have followed the 442 since 1965. At 73 I still believe the 442 is my favorite car. I have driven cars from all over the world, none compare to the 442.
A little over 20 years ago i worked in a restoration shop and the owner had a 70 442. Bright blue, white top, white stripes and white interior. A beauty. He let me drive it pretty often. Always loved these. Dont see them very often these days.
I'd say a 442, but that's because I've grown up with them. In the 70's- 80's my Dad used to drag race a 70 442, then we built a 70 W-31, then he found a 69 F-85 factory drag car, and now he has a 72 442 convertible that's his daily in the summer. But the Mercury is still a badass car!!!
I own a 1970 Olds Cutlass W31 with 32,000 actual miles. I look at that car and its just awesome! I really can't believe its 54 years old. It still looks like a brand new car.
My dad bought a used car lot in 78. There was a 70 cutlass a 72 Cuda 340 and my first car, a 56 F100 on the lot. It was a great time to be a 16 year old kid. My second car was a 69 Chevelle.
Had a '68 442 convertible as a sophomore in HS in '72. Just a little work on the upper end, and it was wicked fast on Gratiot and Woodward during the heydey of street drag racing.
Those 455s, up to 1971, were sooooo good. Even in a Ninety Eight, they'd burn some serious rubber. I had a '71 Delta 88, with a 455 and a probuilt 400 THD behind it, that was a torque monster (twist the front end torque)!! The 442 W30 gets my vote, as the torque, after around 50 mph ish, JUST KEEPS ON PULLIN', even with a rollin' kickdown!!
Yep!... torque IS for sure! My 1985 Cutlass will burn the set of 18"×31" drag radials on the rear from a 2nd gear roll @ 50+mph. And not just a little squeal, I'm talking SMOKE for several hundred feet. It's almost scary, as you never know if the car is going to go straight, or try to swap ends when I do that. Things happen REAL fast when a car gets crossed up at those speeds. I don't have power steering either... it's a manual box out of an S-10, so it's not super easy to turn the wheel, and it's like 4.5 - 5 full turns lock to lock. So if you're going sideways, you REALLY have to muscle the wheel, and do it VERY quickly. The first time that I drove this car after I built it, I got into the throttle at about 30mph, and I ended up in the dirt on both sides of a 4 lane wide road before it got it corrected and going back straight again.. 😳 Talk about a butthole pucker moment!! 😬 It would have killed me if I had wadded up my brand new build in the first 2 miles of the maiden voyage. I came back home with dirt all over both sides of the car, and my brother was over and said, "What happened?", and I told him that "A bunch of horsepower happened...". He wouldn't go for a ride with me in that car for about a year. 😂
Agreed. The 442 W30 was certainly more luxurious than the Chevy & Pontiac offerings, but Buick Division cars were almost always another step higher. Of course at some point the opinions become more subjective.
Yes Buick was a step above Oldsmobile … The GS was an iron fist in a velvet glove, Hell it could eat Hemis for breakfast,.. The GS stage one 1970 was the fourth fastest … it was the king of torque and wasn’t surpassed until dodge came out with the viper v10 in the 90s
Agreed. The 70 Buick GS/GSX 455 produced a monstrous 525 lb. foot of torque and was the epitome of good looks and power. I appreciate all of the different muscle cars. But I grow so tired of hearing about the 426 Hemi blah, blah. blah, blah from the Mopar pundits. Yes the Hemi was a great motor but so were the 427s from Chevy and Ford as well as AMC's 70 390 for the 70 AMX SS. The Buick GS/GSX and the AMX SS and the 427 L-88 in the Corvette would smoke a Hemi.
Owned two '70 era Cutlasses. A standard 70 with a 350 rocket, and a 72 Cutlass S also with a 350 rocket. That 72 had a white interior, buckets separated by the trans auto shifter. Blue and white combo made it one the better looking cars around in those days. No clue how good we had it then. I've owned well over 50 cars, starting with a 69 Nova SS, then a 67 Coronet 440, then a 72 Satellite PI 383, then the two Cutlasses, then a 70 Cuda 340 6 pack which I just sold after owning since 1976. Things have certainly changed now, as my recent rides were an Audi S8 with a 4.0 V8 twin turbo and 8 speed ZF along with a Cadillac ATS-V with a TT V6 and 6 speed manual. I got bit by the power bug at a young age, and at 62, have no plans of changing.
I adore all of the high-end muscle cars from the mid 60's to the early 70's. I grew up in an Olds family, and my late dad loved the big blocks of the Oldsmobile. My dad had owned a 1964 Olds 98 with a 394cid with a 4bbl. He also had a 1971 Olds Delta 88 Custom with a 455cid but I was a bit disappointed when looked under the hood and found out it had a 2bbl carb, at that time I was 12 years old so I didn't have much to say in his decision making when he purchased the car. Great memories of the Golden Era of muscle cars.
I’d choose the 442, but only because I’m biased. I owned a ‘72 Cutlass S in that metallic burnt orange color. It wasn’t a 442, but it was all I could afford. Same body style as a 442, but it only had 350 2bb single exhaust that I converted to a dual. I liked that car a lot. It was the perfect size for me. My father owned a new ‘69 or ‘70 Vista Cruiser with a 400 4bbl and dual exhaust. That was another very nice car.
@@orwellknew9112 I ordered a ‘69 Cutlass S two door sedan, it was delivered a week after I graduated from high school. Mine was a 350 4 barrel with dual exhaust, chrome trim around the window frames, posi-traction. Bench seats, with an automatic. I hated early bucket seats. The guys at the dealership let me look at all the options. The dealer had been in business since the REO speed wagon days and could get GM to option about anything you wanted. It was fast and light for a Cutlass. I paid $3958 for it. A guy ran into my wife in ‘73 when she was stopped at a traffic light….
The 1970 Olds 442 W-30, hands down. I had a 'W 33'-loaded 1970 442 in 1988, bought from a High School classmate's mom, who got it in a divorce from said classmate's dad. After I left for U.S. Navy service, and during Operation Desert Storm, my dad had sold it to a man who was terminally ill, so I always took solace in the fact it at least went to someone who appreciated rare American muscle cars, and could bring some joy to a fellow American who most likely needed it. I still try to imagine what that car would have looked like, had my dad and I ever finally got it painted in a Candy Brandywine metallic with the black stripes on the scoops, 60 Series rubber on custom 5-spoke polished aluminum wheels, and the interior refurbished and the car totally detailed out. The Oldsmobile 'Rocket' emblem those cars wore was totally 'worthy', as the torque that car put out, even with a 'slip-trac' rear end, was like a BLAST OFF in a Saturn V moon rocket! It put you and your passengers back in your seat EVERY TIME from a dead start, and even at road speed!
@@bluesky-ud9wg "Why' did he sell it? Because, first, he was trying to keep a fledgling printing business going and second, a county-wide theft ring had broken into our auto detail and paint shop, and.had stolen all our primary (Read: MOST EXPENSIVE) auto detail and repair equipment, including dad's DeVilbiss paint gun and the Binks pressurized production pot. Thieves were eventually caught, but what they stole was long gone. Didn't make any sense to replace all of said stolen tools, when you're now in the printing business. So, he sold the car. And, I believe he was angry with me for leaving home in 1989, to go "find my own way in the world", and that car was a 'reminder.' He hinted at rhe fact that he 'made' money on the car, but never told me exactly how much. Probably couldn't remember, exactly. With everything that was on his 'plate' at rhe time, it's not a surprise.
@@VideosVarious2 Gotcha, I didn't mean to upset anyone, I just hear a lot of stories especially with Vietnam vets having their cars sold by their parents that's all.
@@bluesky-ud9wg You did'nt upset me. It required a logical answer. And if my dad hadn't needed the financial help that the sale of the car created, looking back on it I figure that he would've kept the car. I'm sure that, when he asked his friend who was a restorer of Shelby Mustangs and vintage Corvettes what the deal was on that '70 Olds 442, I'm confident he was told how rare they were.
@@VideosVarious2 Ok, just making sure. Yea I understand that was a logical decision. I've had a few Fox Mustangs that I owned at different times in the 90's when I was in the Army and sold some I should have kept. My dad retired from Ford so I could have got the Z plan which is at cost. I passed on a black 93 Cobra new of course. The list was 20, 884 and I could have gotten it for 16,400 and I passed. What an idiot I was...
As a teenager in the 70's my next-door neighbor had a 1970 442. Ram air and a Hurst 4 speed. The car was kept original. He let me drive it a few times, and what a joy it was.
...Oldsmobiles were a really great built car. ...I hung the REAR bumpers, along with a partner, on the 1970 Oldsmobile Cutlass 442s & Wagons at the Lansing Final assembly plant in '69-'70. Believe we were running 92 jobs an hour, later production was raised by a few more jobs per hr. I remember a lot of Yellow 442s coming down the line with the scoop hoods & rear spoilers.
10:07 "...just over 3100 cars built"... There are now more W-30's now than when new. I never tried to make my 70 442 a W-30. As a twilight blue code 28 paint, bucket seats, no console column shift car, I never even wanted to pretend it was a W car because I'm also into Oldsmobile performance and I did much much more than the factory could have imagined. My car has been apart , stuck in a semi-resto jail over the past 20+ years as life has to take its course in the meantime. I still have it, as it's my first car. I was 13 in 1983 when the car was acquired for $550. Since then it's had the body off the frame and all the floor pans replaced. During a time where the underside was done but left the body looking like a "barn find" before this was even a thing, the car received my own creation of Dyno proven 620hp/620tq. Just before that, in a lesser form the car went 11.20s at 118 all day long with mufflers and tail pipes as an actual street car that regularly cruised the streets. The ultimate goal used to be a solid 10 second street driven Oldsmobile powered 1970 442. Money is a huge factor but now I have a new goal....I want this car back together and go at very least a 9.99 naturally aspirated Oldsmobile powered. Sorry for rambling in this post, but this vid triggered real emotions in me. Also got some very bad news this exact same day and typing this response is a way of taking my mind off of something potentially really bad and turning this day and thought process into something more positive. Ty for reading if you made it this far. Oldsmobiles still are complete champions of the road!
@@williamstamper442 Just read your post, I’m a die hard Olds guy myself, have been for many years, I have a W-30 in my shop right now I ordered brand new, and have owned others as well, and a W-31 to boot, I hope the news you received is better, I have dealt with what it sounds like you’re going through, the cars and the memories of them can ease a lot of anxiety and pain, be well my friend. 👍
The body lines of the ‘65 442 make it the best looking of the Olds A bodies. If you take a 3/4 view from the rear, the car just looks fast. It’s also the view you had if you tried to race one.
@@sfeddie1 I like them all to be honest, the 65 is light and small, and a good looking car besides. There used to be one here locally with a Starfire 425 swapped into it, 4 speed, and 3:91 gears, two door post car, and I can tell you for a fact that it was one fast car, not quick, but truly fast. Many cars are quick, not to many are truly fast, that car was. He embarrassed a lot of store bought muscle back in that time. My personal taste leans towards the 70-72, as I’ve had a bunch of them, and have one I ordered brand new to this day.
@@Musclecar1972 Nice to talk with an Olds guy. I became an Olds guy the day my dad came home with a brand new, shiny, two-tone blue ‘55 Rocket Holiday hardtop. Boy, that dashboard with acres of chrome blew me away. That’s the car I learned how to drive in. After that he bought a ‘63 F85/post. Soon after that I bought a ‘ 63 Cutlass hardtop. Had to sell it when I got drafted. After I got out of the Army, and married, I bought my ‘65 442 convertible. It was my cousin’s. Low mileage and in great shape. Had it a few years then it was stolen off my driveway. Gone forever.
Buddy of mine had one of these in high school, it was his dad's car and he got it at 17. Damn care was wicked fast. Unfortunately one day coming home from school someone ran a red light and plowed into us. Totalled the car but we all walked away safe. Will always love this car.
When I was 7 years old in 1972 I saw a picture of a 1970 Black and gold 442 Hurst and fell in love. When I was 10 years old my older brother came home with a 1969 candy apple with deep dish Cragars, 442, W30, 455, I fell in love again!. 10 years later I bought a used 1974, 442, 455. Good thing gas was sorta cheap back then? lol. 454s were always on my rear quarter. I vote for the 442!
My dad had a 71 442 W-30, sienna with white accents and white interior. Balanced and blueprinted from Oldsmobile. Automatic (dual gate), no A/C, AM radio, 8 track, 3:73 gears. He babied that thing until he totalled it in 1974. He ended up tracking down the engine, transmission, and rear end locally a few years ago. Still loves that car and is still heartbroken over it. Always looking for it and heavily critical of clones.
I had a '66 442 and a '70 442, both were not W-30s, but still very nice rides. I loved these cars, but if I were to choose today, I'd rather have that Cyclone SCJ! I drove a 1971 Grabber Green one with the 4-speed in early 80s, it was not in the greatest shape, and burned oil, but now that I know what I know, I should have bought it and stuck it in storage until I could have restored it properly, as the owner only wanted $3.000! Dumb move, but I was only 22.
I still own my 66 cutlass convert. I had a 72 455 (rebuilt) turbo 400 put in about 10 years ago. I've owned my beauty since 1982. I'm 77 years old and can still light up those big 275 BFGs!
Olds V8s carried a good chunk of the "American V8" sound in the '60s and '70s, since they were run uncorked in many many boats of the era too. Learned to ski behind a 455 in a Tahiti jet boat. I'll never forget that music coming out of it, and the dual bell tips on the 442 and others as a kid. 👍
Good video! I don't understand why you chose to show the two of a kind W-43 engine at 6:20 when talking about the 455 engines that were in the W-30's. Any 442 guy knows immediately that the W-43 was (sadly) never available to the public, Damn - That would have been fantastic!
I had both. A ‘72 GS Stage 1 and a ‘71 442 drop top. They were neck and neck performance-wise, but the Olds had a better quality ride and handling. It’s V8 exhaust rumble was 2nd to none
I purchased new a ‘72 Olds cutlass 442 with 455 cu. 400 trans, posi rear end . It was Saturn gold with black vinyl top and black interior. Car handle well with heavy duty suspension and great exhaust tone from the dual pipes . I miss that car
As a former 68 442 and 86 442 owner...68 went to a father and son in Pennsylvania...I pick a 70 W30 4spd hard top black with gold stripes buckets console W27 rear....HAMMER DOWN
My mom, who was kinda crazy, traded in a 67 Fairlane GT/A with a 390 hp. for a 72 442 4 spd. because the fairlane "wasn't quick enough" We had a lot of fun in that car, then she traded that in for a 78 TBird since she was getting a little older. Wish she would have kept the Olds. Miss ya mom.
The ‘69 W-31 Cutlass was a sleeper, back then you could factory order a lot of options (if you knew the right dealer, that would astound car buyers of today) right down to the gear ratio and window trim.
@@mcqueenfanmanYes, especially if the 4-4-2 was an automatic trans non W car. They were low 15 second cars while the very special 68 Ram Rods were easy mid 14 sec cars.
Had a 70 in the 70's. converted to 455 marine block (forged crank) and police heads and cam. Monster!. never dinoed it but had to run high 400's hp and a shit ton of torque. I miss that car.
I own a 1970 Oldsmobile 442 W-30. I've owned it for 5 years. Black with gold. I purchased it from the original owner. All original, even the paint. I purchased it from one of my clients. I saw that car in his garage for 14 yrs before it became mine. A picture of my olds just came out in the 2024 cutlass original parts group catalog. I am truly humble to own a machine like this. I had this 442 in a diecast since I was 8 years old
I recently saw your car in my 2024 OPG catalog. Beautiful. I said to myself "There's the original gold stripe color!! I wonder who owns that car?" My black W-30 was painted with an incorrect gold stripe color (Nugget Gold). I’ve been looking for a 1970 W-30 owner who has an original gold stripe car so I can get a paint color match for those awesome non-metallic gold stripes. Maybe you'd be willing to offer a little help? Are you a member of the ClassicOldsmobile Forum on the web? Just Google "ClassicOldsmobile Forum" and it will pop right up. Thank you, w30brad
My best friend has 1970 Cutlass SX 455, has the fiberglass hood with the giant cold air scoops that could suck in a seagull. It is the automatic transmission of the W-30, W-31 I think. Handles pretty well for a big block. Lifts the front end kind of a lot off the line with all that motor TORQUE
I am from this era of time and I may be one the luckiest person I know. I had the good fortune to drive, race and enjoy just about all the great cars from early 60’s through the 70’s. I had American and European models. My first was Galaxy 500 xl, 62, moved on through the 60’s with Mustangs and Oldsmobile. Drove Alfa. BMW, and many others. My must fun for neck banging on the headrest was 429 Mustang and 70 442 W30. For cruising in the country was 68 Alfa, it was amazing the handling for such a small car. Plus, my 4 cyd could beat some American V 8. I loved every car I have owned for their purpose, they do not all need to be fast, just bring a smile to my face. 35 mph or 200 mph. Sorry I left out one of my current cars 68 Mustang, still brings a smile to my face.
I swear to god that I am being surveilled on my TV as I have literally twenty minutes ago watched Dallas car sharks here in the UK and it had one of these cars and the exact same model featured on it, its scary and extremely wierd how this video is in my recommended videos.
@@686Snub_NoDash I've just got a message from RUclips telling me that they have removed a comment for cyber bullying and all i said was " she's shxt faced " FFS!!! How is that bullying??!!! They've threatened to cancel my channel too, this is absolutely ridiculous!!.
The W30 is much nicer looking. You have it right when you say that this was a business mans automobile. The Cutlass interiors looked upscale, just as you can see in this video. I don't remember if they ever used real wood, but the woodgrain look around the guages and the climate control systems looked superb. The sport-rims, that came with many Olds Cutlass models had chrome inserts, and chrome rings which added a lot of class to the car as well. Just a note about the sport-rims. I owned two, 70's era, Cutlasses in my days, and the sport-rim, center caps were stolen off my car very often. It was a pain-in-the-neck. Ok, so now to answer your question about which car I would choose. If I had to choose between the Cyclone, Cobra Jet and the W30, I would lean towards the W30 for sure. It looks smaller, but sporty and has an elegant appearance on the outside, as well as the inside. I have seen a Cyclone's interior, and I just do not think they look as good inside or outside. The 429 CJ is cool for performance, but I like the mid to upper range grunt that comes with having 500 pound-feet of torque pushing you back in your seat at relatively low r.p.m.s like the W30 has. The W30 remains as a durable, luxurious, powerful, personal muscle car for people who want a little better. The Olds, W30 is in the same class as the Buick Grand Sport, Stage One. They are very similar, and were marketed to the similar people. They appealed to older men who did not want wild taped-stripes all over the car; cartoon stickers everywhere; a three-foot high spoiler on the trunk; huge taped numbers for all to see, or super-bright, crazy paint colors.
When I was born in 73, my parents had a 1970 Cutlass Supreme Holiday Coup😮e in gold. It had the 🚀 350 and the only brand new car my parents bought. I can remember sleeping in the back dash, standing behind my mom or dad, whoever was driving 😂. It was a beautiful car and was the first of many Oldsmobiles and Olds 403 powered Buick wagons. Dad's first car was a 1953 88, then a 64 Cutlass. Their last Oldsmobile was a 1983 Oldsmobile 98 Regency Brougham with the 307 😕 core memory unlocked 🔓
72 W30 cars had an X in the VIN indicating it was a true W30 car. Very rare. All other 442 trim packages for that year are easy to clone unless you have the build sheet and other documents showing W29. U code VINs for that year indicated the car had a 455 engine which was available in the cutlass as well. I’ll take the W30 over the Merc! 😁
I’ve never driven a W-30. I did drive a buddies ‘68, 442, 400-4 barrel car in college. It was a 4-speed, no idea what rear gear. It was torquier than my dad’s ‘88 5 liter, 5-speed LX Mustang, but not nearly as quick. Of course you can’t compare a 20 ur old car to a new one, so, regardless of how well tuned my buddies car was, it had age. It was the dark green exterior and same color interior. I loved it. I still think the GM A-Body cars from ‘68-‘72 are the best looking midsize cars ever.
@@rarecars3336 Yeah pretty crazy, he got it when he was 15 in 1984. My Grandpa got both my Dad and Uncle little fix em up projects as a lesson in responsibility, I don't remember what my Uncle's car was, but it was cool too. The Olds was bought from a junkyard, but what's crazy is none of the body was damaged.
I had a 1973 Oldsmobile Omega with a 1970 W30 455 , it was bought at a police auction for $400 , I never got outrun , I street raced in FtWorth, Texas back in the late 70s and early 80s, people came looking for me to race , some were trailered actually real race only cars , I didnt care I raced them all , sometimes with a blown head gasket , and still spanked their asses
You make pretty good videos that is why I watch them. I have to ask.......do you ever watch your own videos? I ask because yours, like too many others, begin only after you have begun speaking. Please run a title or something at the beginning and take a second before you start audio so that the viewer can hear everything you have to say. Thank you.
I put a stock-overhauled 425 (1966) in place of the old 5.7l diesel in a 1981 GMC 2wd 1/2 ton. It had tall gears in the rear, but that beast would melt the tires indefinitely until i took my foot off of the pedal.
Recall one of these models had a switch, lower left of the steering wheel,, that switch controlled the stall speed of the torque converter from the factory...
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EDIT: I misspoke and said the rear end on the non W30 cars was iron, it is STEEL. Sorry for the confusion
It's cast iron
W27 was the center case section of the axle housing. I was cast aluminum.
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Tough choice but I'd have to go for the 442
I’ve got a 1972 W-30 I ordered new in 72 and still have it, just finished a 5 year frame off restoration on it, with a complete mechanical upgrade, beautiful handling and performing cars. I’ve had cars from all the big three, this is my favorite. 👍
Do you mind if I ask how much the restoration costs were? Did you do any of the restoration?
@@JohnDoe-wy2py I did mostly peripheral work, I’m pretty old now, just turned 75 and handicapped, but still turned some wrenches. I purchased the parts I wanted over a period of time, due to availability, with an Olds, is not always that easy to find OEM pieces. The body and paint, with parts came in at just over $50,000. I replaced the complete interior, including headliner, complete new wiring harness, complete new suspension, full stainless exhaust, all new brake system, when I ordered it I didn’t want power disc brakes, but being a W car it automatically came with front disc manual. I converted it to power when restoring it. The OW trans was sent out and rebuilt, and upgraded as well, is full manual, or full automatic as you choose now, added a slightly higher stall anti ballooning converter. The rear was totally rebuilt, and upgraded to 3:73, from the stock 3:42, complete new fuel system. Engine was totally gone though, built to 1970 specifications, with the exception of compression, is now 11:1 all forged internals, balanced and blue printed, block decked, heads milled slightly, upgraded valve train, hardened seats installed, along with the best guides. The factory carb was completely restored, and jetted for the 70 W-30 camshaft, which was custom ground to factory specifications as well. Factory distributor was converted internally to electronic. I haven’t totaled up everything spent, but I would say $80,000 is a close guess. There’s much more I did that I haven’t mentioned, I have every last original part I took off in boxes in my shop, The power train is all number matching, some bolt on’s are not, but I have the original pieces. It’s a very expensive proposition to do an Olds, I’ve done many Chevys, I did a 69 Yenko Camaro a few years before I pulled this out of storage, and it was easier and much cheaper. I did a 68 W-30 and a 70 W-31 as well before I did this one, but not to the extent of this car, this has special sentiments attached to it, my daughter came home from the hospital in it in 1972, when it was 2 weeks old. And it was my first wife’s car, she has passed on now, so I didn’t spare any expenses. Through the years have rebuilt, or restored more muscle cars than I can honestly remember, without writing them down, not just GM, but from all of the big three, I love all the old iron, irregardless of manufacturer. They’re all great to me. I can say, I do have a special place in my heart for the Oldsmobile though. Just my preference. Had I not gathered and researched the parts, and did some work myself, it would have exceeded $100,000 easily. Not a money making proposition, it’s a labor of love, otherwise you’d be disappointed. Hope that gives you an idea, it’s expensive.
@@Musclecar1972 Thank you so much for sharing this with me. I have seen restoration costs on muscle cars easily exceed $200,000 and I doubt they were done to the level yours is. It must be an amazing car plus you have the satisfaction of knowing how rare it is. I congratulate you on your work. Thanks again. Plus the fact your daughter came home from the hospital In it makes it even more special because we know how our daughters mean everything to us.
@@JohnDoe-wy2py My final total has yet to be determined, but I won’t approach that number, I think if I hadn’t done a lot of research and leg work it probably would have. Luckily I had years of experience to help me save some money, I have been obsessed with muscle cars since I was a young guy. Still am, just to old a fossil to deal with them anymore. LOL
@@Musclecar1972 I hope you have someone you can pass the car too after you are gone and that they will appreciate your labor of love. Something like that should be appreciated for generations to come.
An Olds 4-4-2 is one of my dream cars
The 442, as well as the GS models from Buick were really the best. Luxury and power!
Some of the best
B.O.P. 👍
BUICK smh was Unbelievable , couldn’t beat ‘em !
Honestly!
I have followed the 442 since 1965. At 73 I still believe the 442 is my favorite car. I have driven cars from all over the world, none compare to the 442.
A little over 20 years ago i worked in a restoration shop and the owner had a 70 442. Bright blue, white top, white stripes and white interior. A beauty. He let me drive it pretty often. Always loved these. Dont see them very often these days.
I'd say a 442, but that's because I've grown up with them. In the 70's- 80's my Dad used to drag race a 70 442, then we built a 70 W-31, then he found a 69 F-85 factory drag car, and now he has a 72 442 convertible that's his daily in the summer. But the Mercury is still a badass car!!!
I own a 1970 Olds Cutlass W31 with 32,000 actual miles. I look at that car and its just awesome!
I really can't believe its 54 years old. It still looks like a brand new car.
The 70 442 W-30 is one of my must have cars, as well as a 70 Buick GS or GSX 455 Stage 1, or any 70s model Hurst/Olds car.
I would go with the 442 instead of the Cyclone. Always loved 442 Olds Cutlass.
My dad bought a used car lot in 78. There was a 70 cutlass a 72 Cuda 340 and my first car, a 56 F100 on the lot. It was a great time to be a 16 year old kid. My second car was a 69 Chevelle.
A friend of my brothers had a 68' 442 convertible right out of HS . I had a 69' Roadrunner. Back then every kid from 18 to 40 was driving muscle cars.
Had a '68 442 convertible as a sophomore in HS in '72. Just a little work on the upper end, and it was wicked fast on Gratiot and Woodward during the heydey of street drag racing.
I used to live out there in Metro Detroit Kool stuff@@stevenstoll2016
W-30 442 hands down!
Those 455s, up to 1971, were sooooo good. Even in a Ninety Eight, they'd burn some serious rubber. I had a '71 Delta 88, with a 455 and a probuilt 400 THD behind it, that was a torque monster (twist the front end torque)!! The 442 W30 gets my vote, as the torque, after around 50 mph ish, JUST KEEPS ON PULLIN', even with a rollin' kickdown!!
I got a 1970 Delta 88 royale RPO W33, its a shame nobody ever gives the delta 88 any credit I swear
@@christrimmer26801969 and 1970 delta 88s were bad to the bone ...
Yep!... torque IS for sure!
My 1985 Cutlass will burn the set of 18"×31" drag radials on the rear from a 2nd gear roll @ 50+mph. And not just a little squeal, I'm talking SMOKE for several hundred feet.
It's almost scary, as you never know if the car is going to go straight, or try to swap ends when I do that. Things happen REAL fast when a car gets crossed up at those speeds. I don't have power steering either... it's a manual box out of an S-10, so it's not super easy to turn the wheel, and it's like 4.5 - 5 full turns lock to lock. So if you're going sideways, you REALLY have to muscle the wheel, and do it VERY quickly.
The first time that I drove this car after I built it, I got into the throttle at about 30mph, and I ended up in the dirt on both sides of a 4 lane wide road before it got it corrected and going back straight again.. 😳
Talk about a butthole pucker moment!! 😬
It would have killed me if I had wadded up my brand new build in the first 2 miles of the maiden voyage. I came back home with dirt all over both sides of the car, and my brother was over and said, "What happened?", and I told him that "A bunch of horsepower happened...".
He wouldn't go for a ride with me in that car for about a year. 😂
We need a GS/GSX video
Yep, that was on the same level or maybe even a notch above the 442 when it comes to a luxurious muscle car
Agreed. And yes, was a step above the Olds in power & luxury.
Agreed. The 442 W30 was certainly more luxurious than the Chevy & Pontiac offerings, but Buick Division cars were almost always another step higher. Of course at some point the opinions become more subjective.
Yes Buick was a step above Oldsmobile … The GS was an iron fist in a velvet glove, Hell it could eat Hemis for breakfast,.. The GS stage one 1970 was the fourth fastest … it was the king of torque and wasn’t surpassed until dodge came out with the viper v10 in the 90s
Agreed. The 70 Buick GS/GSX 455 produced a monstrous 525 lb. foot of torque and was the epitome of good looks and power. I appreciate all of the different muscle cars. But I grow so tired of hearing about the 426 Hemi blah, blah. blah, blah from the Mopar pundits. Yes the Hemi was a great motor but so were the 427s from Chevy and Ford as well as AMC's 70 390 for the 70 AMX SS. The Buick GS/GSX and the AMX SS and the 427 L-88 in the Corvette would smoke a Hemi.
Owned two '70 era Cutlasses. A standard 70 with a 350 rocket, and a 72 Cutlass S also with a 350 rocket. That 72 had a white interior, buckets separated by the trans auto shifter. Blue and white combo made it one the better looking cars around in those days. No clue how good we had it then. I've owned well over 50 cars, starting with a 69 Nova SS, then a 67 Coronet 440, then a 72 Satellite PI 383, then the two Cutlasses, then a 70 Cuda 340 6 pack which I just sold after owning since 1976. Things have certainly changed now, as my recent rides were an Audi S8 with a 4.0 V8 twin turbo and 8 speed ZF along with a Cadillac ATS-V with a TT V6 and 6 speed manual. I got bit by the power bug at a young age, and at 62, have no plans of changing.
I adore all of the high-end muscle cars from the mid 60's to the early 70's. I grew up in an Olds family, and my late dad loved the big blocks of the Oldsmobile. My dad had owned a 1964 Olds 98 with a 394cid with a 4bbl. He also had a 1971 Olds Delta 88 Custom with a 455cid but I was a bit disappointed when looked under the hood and found out it had a 2bbl carb, at that time I was 12 years old so I didn't have much to say in his decision making when he purchased the car. Great memories of the Golden Era of muscle cars.
I’d choose the 442, but only because I’m biased. I owned a ‘72 Cutlass S in that metallic burnt orange color. It wasn’t a 442, but it was all I could afford. Same body style as a 442, but it only had 350 2bb single exhaust that I converted to a dual. I liked that car a lot. It was the perfect size for me.
My father owned a new ‘69 or ‘70 Vista Cruiser with a 400 4bbl and dual exhaust. That was another very nice car.
@@orwellknew9112 I ordered a ‘69 Cutlass S two door sedan, it was delivered a week after I graduated from high school. Mine was a 350 4 barrel with dual exhaust, chrome trim around the window frames, posi-traction. Bench seats, with an automatic. I hated early bucket seats. The guys at the dealership let me look at all the options. The dealer had been in business since the REO speed wagon days and could get GM to option about anything you wanted. It was fast and light for a Cutlass. I paid $3958 for it. A guy ran into my wife in ‘73 when she was stopped at a traffic light….
🚗💨 My uncle had one of these car, and it was the start of my love for muscle cars.
Great car to start with!
@@rarecars3336 Great content, keep up the great work.
My dad had a silver and black 68 442 and it was awesome as a kid in early 70s I will never forget the sound of it when he power shifted!
Rip Oldsmobile
Amen
The 1970 Olds 442 W-30, hands down. I had a 'W 33'-loaded 1970 442 in 1988, bought from a High School classmate's mom, who got it in a divorce from said classmate's dad. After I left for U.S. Navy service, and during Operation Desert Storm, my dad had sold it to a man who was terminally ill, so I always took solace in the fact it at least went to someone who appreciated rare American muscle cars, and could bring some joy to a fellow American who most likely needed it. I still try to imagine what that car would have looked like, had my dad and I ever finally got it painted in a Candy Brandywine metallic with the black stripes on the scoops, 60 Series rubber on custom 5-spoke polished aluminum wheels, and the interior refurbished and the car totally detailed out. The Oldsmobile 'Rocket' emblem those cars wore was totally 'worthy', as the torque that car put out, even with a 'slip-trac' rear end, was like a BLAST OFF in a Saturn V moon rocket! It put you and your passengers back in your seat EVERY TIME from a dead start, and even at road speed!
So what did your dad sell the car?
@@bluesky-ud9wg "Why' did he sell it? Because, first, he was trying to keep a fledgling printing business going and second, a county-wide theft ring had broken into our auto detail and paint shop, and.had stolen all our primary (Read: MOST EXPENSIVE) auto detail and repair equipment, including dad's DeVilbiss paint gun and the Binks pressurized production pot. Thieves were eventually caught, but what they stole was long gone. Didn't make any sense to replace all of said stolen tools, when you're now in the printing business. So, he sold the car. And, I believe he was angry with me for leaving home in 1989, to go "find my own way in the world", and that car was a 'reminder.' He hinted at rhe fact that he 'made' money on the car, but never told me exactly how much. Probably couldn't remember, exactly. With everything that was on his 'plate' at rhe time, it's not a surprise.
@@VideosVarious2 Gotcha, I didn't mean to upset anyone, I just hear a lot of stories especially with Vietnam vets having their cars sold by their parents that's all.
@@bluesky-ud9wg You did'nt upset me. It required a logical answer. And if my dad hadn't needed the financial help that the sale of the car created, looking back on it I figure that he would've kept the car. I'm sure that, when he asked his friend who was a restorer of Shelby Mustangs and vintage Corvettes what the deal was on that '70 Olds 442, I'm confident he was told how rare they were.
@@VideosVarious2 Ok, just making sure. Yea I understand that was a logical decision. I've had a few Fox Mustangs that I owned at different times in the 90's when I was in the Army and sold some I should have kept. My dad retired from Ford so I could have got the Z plan which is at cost. I passed on a black 93 Cobra new of course. The list was 20, 884 and I could have gotten it for 16,400 and I passed. What an idiot I was...
Definitely the 1970 olds 442 W30 4spd just one bad ass car👊
As a teenager in the 70's my next-door neighbor had a 1970 442. Ram air and a Hurst 4 speed. The car was kept original. He let me drive it a few times, and what a joy it was.
I own a 1970 Oldsmobile Cutlass S. Currently putting in a 455 with a 5 speed tremec transmission. Replacing the Rocket 350 and 3 speed automatic.
@charliejamz I have a 69 cutlass that I'm putting a 455 in. Which tremec are you going with? I was originally thinking a 4 speed muncie
I would choose the 442. 1968 was my favrotie year.
Being a Ford man, Id take the Cobra Jet, but, to choose a😊 GM car, the Olds would easily be my choice.
...Oldsmobiles were a really great built car. ...I hung the REAR bumpers, along with a partner, on the 1970 Oldsmobile Cutlass 442s & Wagons at the Lansing Final assembly plant in '69-'70. Believe we were running 92 jobs an hour, later production was raised by a few more jobs per hr. I remember a lot of Yellow 442s coming down the line with the scoop hoods & rear spoilers.
10:07 "...just over 3100 cars built"...
There are now more W-30's now than when new. I never tried to make my 70 442 a W-30. As a twilight blue code 28 paint, bucket seats, no console column shift car, I never even wanted to pretend it was a W car because I'm also into Oldsmobile performance and I did much much more than the factory could have imagined. My car has been apart , stuck in a semi-resto jail over the past 20+ years as life has to take its course in the meantime. I still have it, as it's my first car. I was 13 in 1983 when the car was acquired for $550. Since then it's had the body off the frame and all the floor pans replaced. During a time where the underside was done but left the body looking like a "barn find" before this was even a thing, the car received my own creation of Dyno proven 620hp/620tq. Just before that, in a lesser form the car went 11.20s at 118 all day long with mufflers and tail pipes as an actual street car that regularly cruised the streets. The ultimate goal used to be a solid 10 second street driven Oldsmobile powered 1970 442. Money is a huge factor but now I have a new goal....I want this car back together and go at very least a 9.99 naturally aspirated Oldsmobile powered.
Sorry for rambling in this post, but this vid triggered real emotions in me. Also got some very bad news this exact same day and typing this response is a way of taking my mind off of something potentially really bad and turning this day and thought process into something more positive.
Ty for reading if you made it this far. Oldsmobiles still are complete champions of the road!
@@williamstamper442 Just read your post, I’m a die hard Olds guy myself, have been for many years, I have a W-30 in my shop right now I ordered brand new, and have owned others as well, and a W-31 to boot, I hope the news you received is better, I have dealt with what it sounds like you’re going through, the cars and the memories of them can ease a lot of anxiety and pain, be well my friend. 👍
My Dad had this same 442, the first car I ever learned to drive in!
Wow that is an awesome car to learn to drive in
Yes we would like a GS/GSX VIDEO
The body lines of the ‘65 442 make it the best looking of the Olds A bodies. If you take a 3/4 view from the rear, the car just looks fast. It’s also the view you had if you tried to race one.
True
Opinions Vary, 70-72 are the best!
@@Musclecar1972 Yeah, you’re right about opinions. I guess I’m a bit biased’ cause I owned a ‘65 back in the day.
@@sfeddie1 I like them all to be honest, the 65 is light and small, and a good looking car besides. There used to be one here locally with a Starfire 425 swapped into it, 4 speed, and 3:91 gears, two door post car, and I can tell you for a fact that it was one fast car, not quick, but truly fast. Many cars are quick, not to many are truly fast, that car was. He embarrassed a lot of store bought muscle back in that time. My personal taste leans towards the 70-72, as I’ve had a bunch of them, and have one I ordered brand new to this day.
@@Musclecar1972 Nice to talk with an Olds guy. I became an Olds guy the day my dad came home with a brand new, shiny, two-tone blue ‘55 Rocket Holiday hardtop. Boy, that dashboard with acres of chrome blew me away. That’s the car I learned how to drive in. After that he bought a ‘63 F85/post. Soon after that I bought a ‘ 63 Cutlass hardtop. Had to sell it when I got drafted. After I got out of the Army, and married, I bought my ‘65 442 convertible. It was my cousin’s. Low mileage and in great shape. Had it a few years then it was stolen off my driveway. Gone forever.
When I was in high school in the 60's painting our wheel wells red became a statement on a lot of cars. Some guys even painted theirs white.
A buddy owned a non W30 '66 442, 4sp, 3X2s and a 3:90 or 4:10 rear end. A quick car.
Classic Olds without a doubt!!! Best of the best!
My late brother had a 1968 light blue light blue interior 442: convertible. The original 400 always overheated. Larry replaced it with a 1968 Olds 350
Nothing u could Do ? Better Rad lower Temp I Fixed my Stuff..😕
Great vid, really enjoyed!!!!
I’m an olds man
Makes me smile
Buddy of mine had one of these in high school, it was his dad's car and he got it at 17. Damn care was wicked fast. Unfortunately one day coming home from school someone ran a red light and plowed into us. Totalled the car but we all walked away safe. Will always love this car.
When I was 7 years old in 1972 I saw a picture of a 1970 Black and gold 442 Hurst and fell in love. When I was 10 years old my older brother came home with a 1969 candy apple with deep dish Cragars, 442, W30, 455, I fell in love again!. 10 years later I bought a used 1974, 442, 455. Good thing gas was sorta cheap back then? lol. 454s were always on my rear quarter. I vote for the 442!
I had a Cutlass when I was younger. I'm 58 now. I'll take the Cutlass anytime!!
442 always for me always loved em. Had a 1987 when they brought them back to rival the monte carlo and grand national. Great video
I really preferred the body lines of the 1st generation. I'm a 58 to 64 guy almost regardless of manufacturer. 64 was a beautiful year for Olds.
4 headlights, 4 tires, 2 seats, gotta love the 442!
This has become one of my favorite channels on RUclips! I learn something every time I watch another video.
My dad had a 71 442 W-30, sienna with white accents and white interior. Balanced and blueprinted from Oldsmobile. Automatic (dual gate), no A/C, AM radio, 8 track, 3:73 gears. He babied that thing until he totalled it in 1974. He ended up tracking down the engine, transmission, and rear end locally a few years ago. Still loves that car and is still heartbroken over it. Always looking for it and heavily critical of clones.
442 without a doubt
I had a '66 442 and a '70 442, both were not W-30s, but still very nice rides. I loved these cars, but if I were to choose today, I'd rather have that Cyclone SCJ! I drove a 1971 Grabber Green one with the 4-speed in early 80s, it was not in the greatest shape, and burned oil, but now that I know what I know, I should have bought it and stuck it in storage until I could have restored it properly, as the owner only wanted $3.000! Dumb move, but I was only 22.
And your getting s kick in the ass lol
I still own my 66 cutlass convert. I had a 72 455 (rebuilt) turbo 400 put in about 10 years ago. I've owned my beauty since 1982. I'm 77 years old and can still light up those big 275 BFGs!
Olds V8s carried a good chunk of the "American V8" sound in the '60s and '70s, since they were run uncorked in many many boats of the era too. Learned to ski behind a 455 in a Tahiti jet boat. I'll never forget that music coming out of it, and the dual bell tips on the 442 and others as a kid. 👍
Good video! I don't understand why you chose to show the two of a kind W-43 engine at 6:20 when talking about the 455 engines that were in the W-30's. Any 442 guy knows immediately that the W-43 was (sadly) never available to the public, Damn - That would have been fantastic!
I had both. A ‘72 GS Stage 1 and a ‘71 442 drop top. They were neck and neck performance-wise, but the Olds had a better quality ride and handling. It’s V8 exhaust rumble was 2nd to none
I purchased new a ‘72 Olds cutlass 442 with 455 cu. 400 trans, posi rear end . It was Saturn gold with black vinyl top and black interior. Car handle well with heavy duty suspension and great exhaust tone from the dual pipes . I miss that car
442, 100%
As a former 68 442 and 86 442 owner...68 went to a father and son in Pennsylvania...I pick a 70 W30 4spd hard top black with gold stripes buckets console W27 rear....HAMMER DOWN
💥BUICK GS STAGE1 was the real torque KING ‼️
But I liked the cutlass a lot!!!!!
A LOT!!!!
Incredibly well done video!!
Thanks tim! Glad you enjoyed it!
My mom, who was kinda crazy, traded in a 67 Fairlane GT/A with a 390 hp. for a 72 442 4 spd. because the fairlane "wasn't quick enough" We had a lot of fun in that car, then she traded that in for a 78 TBird since she was getting a little older. Wish she would have kept the Olds. Miss ya mom.
@Rare Cars, I'd probably just go with the rarest Cutlass W-43
The 442 for sure
please cover buick next i think the gs455stage one was even better than the olds! and more expensive
Yea I gota say the stage 1 was even faster !
The ‘69 W-31 Cutlass was a sleeper, back then you could factory order a lot of options (if you knew the right dealer, that would astound car buyers of today) right down to the gear ratio and window trim.
A 68 F-85 Ram Rod could be lighter and faster than the 68 442.
@@mcqueenfanmanYes, especially if the 4-4-2 was an automatic trans non W car. They were low 15 second cars while the very special 68 Ram Rods were easy mid 14 sec cars.
I had a 1970 w31 with slicks and headers it ran mid 13s at 108mph.
1970 W30 442 oh yes hard top
I'm going 442 but am biased lol have my 70 almost ready to hit the streets again. Hasn't been on the streets since probably 2003ish
Have owned both a W-30 and a cyclone spoiler. both 1970 models and both were a ton of fun! but I have to give top dog status to the W-30😉
I choose the 442 without a doubt. Great video.
The 70 only Aluminum Rear End was a very Rare Option
You are correct I did misspeak it was technically an extra option not a standard equipment piece. Thank you for the correction
@@rarecars3336W27 option.
It was the W-27 option.
Had a 70 in the 70's. converted to 455 marine block (forged crank) and police heads and cam. Monster!. never dinoed it but had to run high 400's hp and a shit ton of torque. I miss that car.
How about a 1969 Cutlass S Holiday Coupe W-31?
I wanted to see some shots of the best looking model year -1969.
I own a 1970 Oldsmobile 442 W-30. I've owned it for 5 years. Black with gold. I purchased it from the original owner. All original, even the paint. I purchased it from one of my clients. I saw that car in his garage for 14 yrs before it became mine. A picture of my olds just came out in the 2024 cutlass original parts group catalog. I am truly humble to own a machine like this. I had this 442 in a diecast since I was 8 years old
I recently saw your car in my 2024 OPG catalog. Beautiful. I said to myself "There's the original gold stripe color!! I wonder who owns that car?"
My black W-30 was painted with an incorrect gold stripe color (Nugget Gold). I’ve been looking for a 1970 W-30 owner who has an original gold stripe car so I can get a paint color match for those awesome non-metallic gold stripes. Maybe you'd be willing to offer a little help? Are you a member of the ClassicOldsmobile Forum on the web? Just Google "ClassicOldsmobile Forum" and it will pop right up. Thank you, w30brad
With oiling/drainback mods, the Olds 455 is nearly bulletproof.
And their 425 was even better !
My best friend has 1970 Cutlass SX 455, has the fiberglass hood with the giant cold air scoops that could suck in a seagull. It is the automatic transmission of the W-30, W-31 I think. Handles pretty well for a big block. Lifts the front end kind of a lot off the line with all that motor TORQUE
I would love to see a video of another forgotten muscle car, the 1969 Mercury Cyclone CJ
It is on our list!
I am from this era of time and I may be one the luckiest person I know. I had the good fortune to drive, race and enjoy just about all the great cars from early 60’s through the 70’s. I had American and European models. My first was Galaxy 500 xl, 62, moved on through the 60’s with Mustangs and Oldsmobile. Drove Alfa. BMW, and many others. My must fun for neck banging on the headrest was 429 Mustang and 70 442 W30. For cruising in the country was 68 Alfa, it was amazing the handling for such a small car. Plus, my 4 cyd could beat some American V 8. I loved every car I have owned for their purpose, they do not all need to be fast, just bring a smile to my face. 35 mph or 200 mph. Sorry I left out one of my current cars 68 Mustang, still brings a smile to my face.
I swear to god that I am being surveilled on my TV as I have literally twenty minutes ago watched Dallas car sharks here in the UK and it had one of these cars and the exact same model featured on it, its scary and extremely wierd how this video is in my recommended videos.
Lol I guess youtube is doing its job!
" Goo gle " is always watching + listening 😂 I tell them to go beeping beep themselves ALOT
@@686Snub_NoDash I've just got a message from RUclips telling me that they have removed a comment for cyber bullying and all i said was " she's shxt faced " FFS!!! How is that bullying??!!! They've threatened to cancel my channel too, this is absolutely ridiculous!!.
@adamweston4152
I get those warnings about once a week and most things I say aren't even remotely what they Claim I did.
why the graphic for the 455 using a pic of the never produced olds "hemi", instead, at 6:30 ?? 🤨
442 allday
Every Day!
The W30 is much nicer looking. You have it right when you say that this was a business mans automobile. The Cutlass interiors looked upscale, just as you can see in this video. I don't remember if they ever used real wood, but the woodgrain look around the guages and the climate control systems looked superb.
The sport-rims, that came with many Olds Cutlass models had chrome inserts, and chrome rings which added a lot of class to the car as well. Just a note about the sport-rims. I owned two, 70's era, Cutlasses in my days, and the sport-rim, center caps were stolen off my car very often. It was a pain-in-the-neck. Ok, so now to answer your question about which car I would choose. If I had to choose between the Cyclone, Cobra Jet and the W30, I would lean towards the W30 for sure. It looks smaller, but sporty and has an elegant appearance on the outside, as well as the inside.
I have seen a Cyclone's interior, and I just do not think they look as good inside or outside. The 429 CJ is cool for performance, but I like the mid to upper range grunt that comes with having 500 pound-feet of torque pushing you back in your seat at relatively low r.p.m.s like the W30 has. The W30 remains as a durable, luxurious, powerful, personal muscle car for people who want a little better. The Olds, W30 is in the same class as the Buick Grand Sport, Stage One. They are very similar, and were marketed to the similar people. They appealed to older men who did not want wild taped-stripes all over the car; cartoon stickers everywhere; a three-foot high spoiler on the trunk; huge taped numbers for all to see, or super-bright, crazy paint colors.
When I was born in 73, my parents had a 1970 Cutlass Supreme Holiday Coup😮e in gold. It had the 🚀 350 and the only brand new car my parents bought. I can remember sleeping in the back dash, standing behind my mom or dad, whoever was driving 😂. It was a beautiful car and was the first of many Oldsmobiles and Olds 403 powered Buick wagons. Dad's first car was a 1953 88, then a 64 Cutlass. Their last Oldsmobile was a 1983 Oldsmobile 98 Regency Brougham with the 307 😕 core memory unlocked 🔓
72 W30 cars had an X in the VIN indicating it was a true W30 car. Very rare. All other 442 trim packages for that year are easy to clone unless you have the build sheet and other documents showing W29. U code VINs for that year indicated the car had a 455 engine which was available in the cutlass as well. I’ll take the W30 over the Merc! 😁
That red '66 with the black painted top used to belong to my friend Roger in Central Florida. What a good guy he was!
64 Wildcat 455 2+2 my favorite
I’ve never driven a W-30. I did drive a buddies ‘68, 442, 400-4 barrel car in college. It was a 4-speed, no idea what rear gear. It was torquier than my dad’s ‘88 5 liter, 5-speed LX Mustang, but not nearly as quick. Of course you can’t compare a 20 ur old car to a new one, so, regardless of how well tuned my buddies car was, it had age. It was the dark green exterior and same color interior. I loved it. I still think the GM A-Body cars from ‘68-‘72 are the best looking midsize cars ever.
People always focus on horsepower, but torque is king from stoplight to stoplight.
My Dad has a 1971 442 W30, it was his first car and it's beautiful. Hopefully someday I'll be able to say it's mine.
Wow what a first car!
@@rarecars3336 Yeah pretty crazy, he got it when he was 15 in 1984. My Grandpa got both my Dad and Uncle little fix em up projects as a lesson in responsibility, I don't remember what my Uncle's car was, but it was cool too. The Olds was bought from a junkyard, but what's crazy is none of the body was damaged.
With out a doubt I would pick the w-30 since I have one and have had several.Thsnks God bless you
One of the most underrated
Great video! But we need a video on the superbird
It is on the list!
I have a '68 Olds 442 love this car.
I had a black 442 w30 in 1971
I had a 1973 Oldsmobile Omega with a 1970 W30 455 , it was bought at a police auction for $400 , I never got outrun , I street raced in FtWorth, Texas back in the late 70s and early 80s, people came looking for me to race , some were trailered actually real race only cars , I didnt care I raced them all , sometimes with a blown head gasket , and still spanked their asses
No you didn’t
For me, it’d be the ‘70 442. I had a coworker in ‘75 who had one. What. A. Machine!
You make pretty good videos that is why I watch them. I have to ask.......do you ever watch your own videos? I ask because yours, like too many others, begin only after you have begun speaking. Please run a title or something at the beginning and take a second before you start audio so that the viewer can hear everything you have to say. Thank you.
I would go with the 442. The Cyclone however, would also make me happy.
My favorite will always be the 68 442 W30
Always wondered why they never used the higher HP 425 from the 98 & Toronado?
What model year? GM had corporate bans on engine displacement in "intermediate" (meaning mid size) cars, depending on model year.
@@bbb462cidRight, 400 max cubic inch from 1965-69. Yes those Hi Compression 425s were fantastic!
I put a stock-overhauled 425 (1966) in place of the old 5.7l diesel in a 1981 GMC 2wd 1/2 ton. It had tall gears in the rear, but that beast would melt the tires indefinitely until i took my foot off of the pedal.
@@bbb462cid Me forgot.
Recall one of these models had a switch, lower left of the steering wheel,, that switch controlled the stall speed of the torque converter from the factory...
I'd choose the W30 every time.
I definitely would get the 70 W30
I would always choose the Oldsmobile ... always.... always....