Hello, I'm the guy behind this whole idea. So I bet you have questions about this matchup and yes I will answer. "What are the connections?" I don't wanna take up too much space, but the basics are two masked conquerors who have betrayed their kinda cultish groups in search for power and knowledge from a dark lord, only to turn around in the end and become their own warrior, but are unfortunately killed in the end. There's a lot more, but that's the gist. "Why this and not Obito, Saber, etc?" Those are good matchups in their own way, especially Obito, but Elder Scrolls, ever since Oblivion, has always held a special place in my heart, as well as Star Wars. I felt like the series needs more acknowledgement in this community and it was either this, or a couple other matchups, but in the end, this is what I chose, because I could not pass up Star Wars AND Elder Scrolls music at once. "What do you think of the music?" I've heard this track over and over again, and I still love it to death. I love approaches he took with the orchestrals, they perfectly resemble both series to a tee, but my favourite part is at about 2:20. When the triumphant rendition of the Elder Scrolls theme kicks in, it's at this moment when they push the Force and the Thu'um to their limit to prove that they need no master to obtain the greatest of power. They are their own warriors, they will not back down until one stands and one falls. It's truly amazing.
Oh, wow, I never actually thought of this battle idea. And just a couple weeks ago, I was asking around for opponents for Miraak. I don't suppose you plan on writing this, do you?
Hmm, interesting match up. I wanna know who you think wins. Id say miraak, mostly because of scaling to the dragonborn and having all the shouts in game. That level of versatility and survivability id say would give him the edge. But raw power goes to vader. That light saber is busted
Wiz: Darth Vader, the Dark Lord of the Galactic Empire. Boomstick: Miraak, the first dragonborn. Wiz: Every powerful evil always needs a deadly enforcer at their side in order to rule all they desire. They are one of the toughest main obstacles resisting rebellious heroes have to face. Boomstick: They plan to strike fear into the hearts of all good men, and they do a damn good job at it, too! He’s Wiz and I’m Boomstick! Wiz: And it’s our job to analyze their weapons, armor, and skills to find out who would win a Death Battle!
What's awesome about this is that there are mods for Darth Vader's armor and lightsabers, think there's even mods for force magic. You could essentially turn your Skyrim character into Darth Vader and replace the music during Miraak's fight with this to have this fight happen in canon.
Very happy to see that Elder Scrolls made its way into these commissioned tracks! Not sure who would win due to the tricky scalings, but I got my vote on Miraak.
From what I've been able to gather, Miraak is immune to the unrelenting force shout (Fus~Roh~Dah) & the paralysis spell. So, Vader will have very hard time stopping him with his Force Push & Force Choke/Hold.
Miraak: The Voice is Strong with one...u don't know the power a true Dragonborn weirds... Vader: then you will die braver then most... because u don't know the power of the dark side...
This track goes so hard! Miraak is such an awesome Elder Scrolls character and I’m so happy to see him get a commission! And Star Wars music + Skyrim music alone is enough to make this matchup kick ass, Miraak FTW!
I've never thought about this matchup, but after thinking about it, I quite like it. The track has a nice overall feeling of cold deadly power, which is the feeling I tend to get during Vader's more terrifying moments.
Ima say it, this is Vader’s best matchup as Miraak is literally just Vader story wise. And their connections are extremely similar too. Clearly music is amazing, too! The only bad apart is that Miraak stomps the living hell out of Vader and the entirety of Star Wars for the matter. Besides that it’s my favorite matchup around.
So, the Corrupted Chosen One and Dark Lord of the Sith vs The First Dragonborn and servant of Hermaeus Mora. Should be interesting if this track says anything
@@shadowhawkrine1947 miraak has many dragon shouts that vader would have little defense against[depending on what db would give him], they could give him time stop which would be a instant win, the only thing vader has going for him is force pre-cognition and maybe able to stop shouts that spit elements or just good ol fus ro dah[ dragonborn force push] but otherwise he would have shouts that could either weaken him or even outright kill him. He also mentions he could have killed Alduin, if taken at face value, makes him potentially planet to universal depending on how you interpret him feeding on souls from another realm and needing a specific shout that nullifies his immortality just to kill him. There's more but I have forgotten most of it, hope that helps
@@shadowhawkrine1947 Well for starters at minimum Miraak has to be universal in powers since Alduin, who has canonically eaten the entire physical universe multiple times in the cyclical death and rebirth of the mortal realm of Mundus, dies at the hands of The Last Dragonborn who Miraak fights to a stand still and even then it took them and the help of the Daedric Prince Hermaeus Mora to put Miraak down so he’s probably beyond that.
Given my lack of knowledge/ lack of caring for Elder Scrolls, I still prefer Vader's other more popular matchups, but I do really like the combination of their types of instrumentals from Star Wars and Elder Scrolls together here
Quite an original matchup. I’m happy to see Elder Scrolls tracks too. Matchup is a bit rough perhaps but does appear interesting, even if Miraak probably curbstomps due to scaling via the Dragonborn and other characters. As for the song I gotta say that I do appreciate this song. It’s overall got that pretty heavy and almost dark atmosphere but it doesn’t have that « creepy » feel that some other songs might have. Instead it has a few epic-sounding parts (IE: 1:01-1:28) that are a reminder at how strong both of those characters are. 2:21-3:14 also stands out IMO as being a much more heroic-sounding part. Which might sound a bit weird considering the characters but I do believe it makes sense. After all both Vader and even Miraak weren’t pure evil and had done, much more so for Vader, relatively heroic deeds in their pasts. Also it sounds really cool. Overall a nice song with varied themes but that all fit the characters presented in the matchup. Good work.
Full context I am not familiar with elder scrolls lore very well. But I do think vader has a good chance here in terms of scaling. The elder scrolls is a fantasy based rpg series while reality warpers and the sort exist (daedric princes and what not) they are almost never used and their powers are unclear at best. The dragon borns feats may seem multiversal given what he’s fighting but it’s important to remember that we never see any feats undeniably multiversal or even planetary. We only have assumptions based off characters describing others as “gods” or what not. Edit1- there is a lot of room for interpretation is basically what I’m saying. The universe itself just doesn’t seem to support multiversal or even planetary protagonists
I'm more curious about how this fight would even start. Like how the fuck would these guys even meet each other when Miraak is trapped in an entirely separate higher dimensional plane of existence?
I mean it could just be Miraak escaping Apocrypha, since that was literally all he was trying to do in the DLC, and inadvertently agitating Vader in the process of said escape.
@@dravensanders6157 vader’s a conesseuir of scary artifacts in the EU. It wouldn’t be out of character to fiddle around with something he shouldn’t if he thought it’d help him kill palps.
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 actually, if Miraak does end up killing Vader in Apocrypha, Vader would just go back to where he first read the Black Book since that's what happened when the Dovahkiin got killed by the Seekers after Miraak One-Shot them.
Mirrak stomps he literally the strongest dragonborn with the player being the second who both scale above alduin a being who above daedric princess and Aedra
Few things wrong here First, the Player is the strongest dragonborn, not Mirrak, the Dragonborn beat Mirrak single handedly and even absorbed his soul Secondly Alduin is not above the daedric princes and aedra, in fact he is far below them, hell he himself claims to be the firstborn of Akatosh, which no doesn't scale Alduin to Akatosh since the vampires were Molag Ball's kids originally and none of them are even near his strength
@@LordBlizzard58 Mirrak is above the player till final end of story before the first given he incapacitated the player when they first meet and forgot who but that one elf from morrow wind states the player is the second strongest dragon born Alduin above them the same book even tells all daedric fear him with Dagon only constant picking a fight with him and losing everytime and akatosh was powerless to stop his son when he began the kalpaa
Vader comes back to life....somehow he returns I like the very chanting as it feels like your facing that one boss who stalks you Also epic mu and while not my favorite for vader (Koragg from mystic force) I like most of what vader has as mu's I think this is one of vaders definite losses so yet another L to him. But I have never played scrolling elders
Oooh, I love this! And the matchup. Miraak's best feat is a lore tidbit about him having a shout duel that caused the island of Solstheim to split off from Skyrim. Which is impressive. In a Death Battle, though, they tend to use Star Wars' Extended Universe for feats, and Vader as Anakin scales directly to Obi-Wan, which y''all should know how they treated by now.
Vader might have more raw power, but the dragon speech might give miraak certain abilites to compensate for this short coming. Also him canonically being able to go toe to toe with the latest dragon born, who potentially killed a reality eating dragon/ had power comparable to a weakened daedric prince at leadt by the time y’all fight speaks highly of miraak too. Though death battle doesn’t always scale like that.
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 The Last Dragonborn didn't kill Alduin, they destroyed the mortal avatar of Alduin (which has no feats) and sent the god within back to aetherius. The Last Dragonborn is only considered impressive in the versus community because they scale to Miraak, not the other way around. Moreover than power, though, is speed and reaction feats. Vader has them in spades, whereas Miraak simply doesn't. His shout variety won't mean much if he can't actually hit Vader with them.
@@GermanKinsmen huh, how is alduin featless? He destroys a whole town, fought against other dragons and legendary warriors in sovengard (probably didn’t spell that write.) at in game, statement wise he’s destined to consume the world, and time warped a whole army. i’m not sure if mortal avatar would be an apt statement given how dragons work in the elder scrolls universe. As for not being able to hit vader, i’m not sure why he wouldn’t. True vader can dodge attacks at sonic speed but he’d likely be more inclined to try and block it with his lightsaber or force wall, which might not work. And if regular star wars humans can still occasionally land some hits on the sith lord, i’m sure miraak could manage to get that will bend shout in at least once.
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 Destroying a whole town isn't that impressive of a feat, and fighting against other dragons and warriors of Sovngarde doesn't mean anything because neither the dragons nor the warriors have feats either. Alduin being destined to consume the world is irrelevant because that is a feat of the GOD Alduin, which is not what we fight. If we were fighting that Alduin, he would've simply eaten the world instead of losing, but he didn't and had his avatar destroyed instead. It IS mortal, because it can be killed. And because of that, we can't assume it's capable of the feats he is capable of as a god. The Bend Will Shout is the most useless tool in Miraak's arsenal. Vader has canonically combatted and resisted mind control literally hundreds of times.
AMV Plan Obito Uchiha & Terra-Xehanort - Dark Allegiance (Brandon Yates) (Full Version) Tagline: "Founder Of The Akatsuki VS A Xehanort Who Possess Terra's Body With Darth Vader VS Miraak's Commission Track." Obito VS Terra-Xehanort (Naruto VS Kingdom Hearts) | Dark Allegiance AMV Corrupted Tsukuyomi (Obito VS Terra-Xehanort) [Naruto VS Kingdom Hearts] Obito Uchiha & Naruto Was Owned By Masashi Kishimoto Terra-Xehanort & Kingdom Hearts Was Owned By Disney & Square Enix
While this isn't my preferred for Vader (that honor goes to Sepulchure from Adventure Quest), this track is nevertheless really well done. The chanting is very atmospheric and haunting.
*I felt inspired to write this based on the video. Figrin D'an and the Modal Nodes - "Our hero, our hero. Claims a force wielder's heart. I tell you; I tell you. The Skywalker comes. With a body wielding power of the Living~Force arts. Believe, believe the Skywaker comes. It's an end to the evil of the Galaxy's foes. Beware, beware, the Skywalker comes. For the darkside has passed & the legends yet grows. You'll know, you'll know the Skywalker's come. (Ah-ah-ah X8) Skywalker, Skywalker, by his honor is sworn, to keep the darkside forever at bay! And the fiercest foes rout when they hear lightsaber's shout, Skywalker, for your blessing we pray! Our hero, our hero. Claims a force wielder's heart. I tell you; I tell you. The Skywalker comes. With a body wielding power of the Living~Force arts. Believe, believe the Skywaker comes. It's an end to the evil of the Galaxy's foes. Beware, beware, the Skywalker comes. (Ah-ah-ah X8) Skywalker, Skywalker, by his honor is sworn, to keep the darkside forever at bay! And the fiercest foes rout when they hear lightsaber's shout, Skywalker, for your blessing we pray! I tell you; I tell you. The Skywalker comes."
Yeah about that….Elder Scrolls, especially if using lore for feats, kinda blows Star Wars out of the water. Like The Last Dragonborn, who Miraak should scale to, at minimum is Universal just by beating Alduin.
Sorry for the kate response but… Miraak quite literally solos Legends. Legends only has around 5 maybe 6 uni characters and Vader isn’t even one of them.
Both chosen ones[ miraak possibly less so as he's not the only dragonborn but he was given power and rank like vader], both betrayed their orders[ jedi, dragon priest] and both worked under a new darker master[Palpatine, hermaues mora, though hermaues mora is more eldritch then dark] also both are surpassed by successors[luke, dragonborn]
-Arrogant, masked conquerors who know a worthy challenge when they see it -Started as high-ranking members of a cult-like group (Anakin was a Jedi and Miraak was a Dragon Priest) -They were prophesied as a warrior of destiny (Anakin was the Chosen One who would lead the Jedi from the darkness of the Sith while Miraak was the First Dragonborn who was destined to defeat Alduin) -They sought out knowledge from a dark lord (Anakin sought out Palpatine, who was the Sith Lord the entire time, and Miraak sought out Hermaeus Mora, the Daedric Prince of Fate and Knowledge) -They became corrupted by their dark masters into betraying their groups (Anakin was killing multiple of his own Jedi while Miraak killed and absorbed the souls of the dragons he served, even bending them to his will) -During these hard times, they lost things that were dear to them (Anakin lost his wife while Miraak had his temple destroyed by the dragons) -They battled one of their own and roundly lost (Anakin fought Obi-Wan while Miraak fought Vahlok the Jailor) -They were almost killed but were saved by their dark masters and they made them more powerful later on (Palpatine gave Anakin his suit under the name of Darth Vader while Miraak was given more knowledge from Mora's realm, Apocrypha, as well as a new squid-like mask) -Years later, they brought entire provinces to their knees without even having to be present -Soon after, new warriors of destiny emerged from the ashes of despair and fought these two, but lost (Luke Skywalker was fodderized by Vader while the Last Dragonborn was fodderized by Miraak) -The dark ones soon recognized their talents (Vader realized that Luke was a Jedi and his own son while Miraak realized that his opponent was a Dragonborn like he is) -They soon realized that they were being mere pawns [Albeit in different time periods] -The warriors became stronger than before and battled the fallen ones once again -The battle was interrupted by their dark masters, and those dark masters killed them [The only difference is Vader succeeded in being released from Sidious' grasp while Miraak died and remained in Apocrypha -Upon death, they wished the new warriors well in their rewards and adventures, as they have had before
Miraak may be powerful in his own right, the first Dragonborn is no slouch, but he has his limits. Miraak was bested in combat by his fellow Dragon Priest Vahlok, and would've died had it not been for Mora's intervention. But as powerful as Miraak is, he is no match for the power that the Force's Fallen Savior can bring. Bow Down to Lord Vader, the Mightiest Sith of all time.
No. I’ll explain. Remember Alduin? He was going to consume reality and every single timeline in the Elder Scrolls (this is canon). Making him at the least universal. Dragonborn killed him, with little to no assistance, and that leads to the Dragonborn DLC, where Miraak just low diffs the Dragonborn at the beginning meaning he was stronger at that moment. This is because after being rescued by Mora he accumulated power using the black books and every bit of knowledge Mora gave him. Shouts are capable of destroying reality itself and Miraak has created new ones himself. He also has lightning magic, which Vader’s suit is weak to and would fry it. Vader is powerful but you’re overestimating him and are underestimating Miraak. And I’m lowballing Miraak. His higher stuff is multiversal levels of destruction. Vader is strong but Miraak is stronger.
@@MrLimboRL Ok, First: Miraak taking down the Dragonborn during their first encounter is weird to begin with. Why was the Dovahkiin just standing still and just let Miraak zap them? Dovahkiin could've gotten a sneak attack on Miraak! Second: Shouts can't destroy reality, they can alter it, that fact is indisputable, but Dragon Shouts are a far cry from Dwarven Tonal Architecture. None of the shouts show any signs of reality destruction, and if you can name one then I'll rescind my second point. Thirdly: Miraak is NOT high Multiversal, and you will not convince me otherwise. The Daedra may be extra dimensional demons, but all of Oblivion, Aetherius, and Nirn all exist within the same single universe. The only Multiversal beings in the Elder Scrolls are the Primals, Anu and Padomay. So if you are trying to argue that Miraak (and by Scaling the Dovahkiin) is on par with literal OUTER GODS, then I'm not buying it. Finally: I actually forgot about the Weakness Palpatine put into Vader's Suit to lighting. For a long time I assumed it was specifically FORCE Lightning Vader had a weakness to, and then the Comics had him incapacitated by a rogue Lightning strike, although he did survive it. OH WAIT A MINUTE! Vader Scaled to Kenobi, who scales to that Jedi who moved a fucking BLACK HOLE. Do not underestimate the Force.
@@treybrzezowski3259 he’s at least universal scaling to Alduin who is explicitly stated to be able to consume timelines and reality. So Miraak still wins.
@@luisbalbuena6563 beyond concepts through “The Bones of The Earth” which control the concepts behind words using the dragons language of Tonal Magic that allows them to manipulate the idea of Free Will, the Soul, Fire, Ice, the Cold, Force, and the power of Storms. The entirety of the Elderscrolls takes place in a universe that is made up of the corpse of the strongest god who scales above and relative to the Daedra who all have realms that are infinite in size (so is Sovenguarde, the Nordic death realm), among other things. Also resists time-hax because dragons are gods of time, unable to age (only rot if they are trapped in the Soul Cairn, where they become truly immortal to any and all damage but slaves to humans who became Psuedo-Daedric lords called Ideal Masters, but that’s another point). Miraak scales to the main Dragonborn who could wield all three Elderscrolls in Skyrim those being the Blood/Dragon/Sun scrolls (all scrolls are stated as being batteries of creation which is low outer at peak).
Imma give you just a (small) amount of info on him. Mortal body with an immortal dragon soul that can only be TRULY killed by a fellow DB. He is the Champion of Hermaeus Mora, the Daedric Prince of all knowledge: written, unwritten, thought of or not, ideas that will and will not exist are known to Hermaeus. Miraak has the soul of a dragon, making him resist time altering abilities to an extent (only can temporarily send him to the future to prolong the fight until that point), and using Tonal Magic from the Dragon Tongue he can manipulate “The Bones of The Earth”, which control the concepts of: The Soul, Free Will, Storms, Time, Force, Fire, Ice, The Cold, The Aura of Living and the Dead, The Speed of a Whirlwind, Self-Soul Manipulation to become immune to all damage, The True Form of his Dragon Soul to Protect him, and he can Mark Someone’s Soul for death (few of these are in gameplay, however given that he is the student of Hermaeus Mora who has all knowledge except outside of time he should know some of these).
@@MidnightPhantom Vader is an annoying opponent, but Concept Manipulation > Vader’s Dark Force (using legends). Both are easily outerversal, though Miraak in lore just scales higher and even using only his gameplay shouts without the argument of being the student of infinite and most timeless knowledge outside Elderscrolls themselves and his dragon soul innate resistances to time and other things like that he takes it pretty easily. Hell, no shout cooldown for Manipulating the Force (both metaphorically using Unrelenting Force and literally as the Force could in theory be effected by it), Fire, can call other dragons who DO have said shouts so he can eat their souls or use them as allies and calling on his own souls powers. Vader’s best advantage is his Force precognition which exists even in hyperspace (outside regular spacetime) and his ability to manipulate the force in ways that would be hard to deal with without prior knowledge. Not too much to work on.
Tl;Dr Unless you highball Miraak, Vader wins. Only way I see Miraak winning is if both A. He gets an amp from Hermaeus Mora or B. His soul stealing ability works on people as well as dragons. Considering we never see him attempt this against the player, I doubt it. That being said, Miraak is at least comparable to the Dragonborn, who while in theory is as strong as a Universal being (alduin) had to use a special ability to even make him harmable, and he had to drag him into the afterlife to kill Alduin. So I say it's more the Dragonborn made Alduin weak enough to fight rather than the Dragonborn being universal.
1 Alduin hyper to outerversal as he scales above all Daedra and Daedric Prince even transform a regular Deadric into Dagon and beats him up every time as told The Seven Fights of The Aldudagga a cannon story made later on by a Writer of the elder scroll 2 dragon born never weakens Alduin the dragonrend forces the concept the mortality to a dragon and makes them unable to focus, so he just confuses and dazes dragons with that shout so dragon born and Mirakk scale to Alduin
@@weskintime4177 pretty sure they are canon they the addon is promoted as “official” and approved by the writers and Directors. and the book whole purposes serve as the backbone of Skyrim's main story, as it explains what Alduin is, what a Kalpa is, and why the cycle exists.
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Hello, I'm the guy behind this whole idea. So I bet you have questions about this matchup and yes I will answer.
"What are the connections?"
I don't wanna take up too much space, but the basics are two masked conquerors who have betrayed their kinda cultish groups in search for power and knowledge from a dark lord, only to turn around in the end and become their own warrior, but are unfortunately killed in the end. There's a lot more, but that's the gist.
"Why this and not Obito, Saber, etc?"
Those are good matchups in their own way, especially Obito, but Elder Scrolls, ever since Oblivion, has always held a special place in my heart, as well as Star Wars. I felt like the series needs more acknowledgement in this community and it was either this, or a couple other matchups, but in the end, this is what I chose, because I could not pass up Star Wars AND Elder Scrolls music at once.
"What do you think of the music?"
I've heard this track over and over again, and I still love it to death. I love approaches he took with the orchestrals, they perfectly resemble both series to a tee, but my favourite part is at about 2:20. When the triumphant rendition of the Elder Scrolls theme kicks in, it's at this moment when they push the Force and the Thu'um to their limit to prove that they need no master to obtain the greatest of power. They are their own warriors, they will not back down until one stands and one falls. It's truly amazing.
Since I know nothing of The Elder Scrolls series, this was extremely helpful. Thanks guy behind this idea!
Thank you for taking the time to give your thoughts! Its a very inspired choice.
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Oh, wow, I never actually thought of this battle idea. And just a couple weeks ago, I was asking around for opponents for Miraak. I don't suppose you plan on writing this, do you?
Hmm, interesting match up. I wanna know who you think wins.
Id say miraak, mostly because of scaling to the dragonborn and having all the shouts in game. That level of versatility and survivability id say would give him the edge. But raw power goes to vader. That light saber is busted
Darth Vader: "I have seen many creatures throughout the galaxy, but all I have to say now is… what the f**k is that thing!"
Miraak: “After having found out myself ‘choosen one’; consider yourself lucky You’ll be dead long before you do as well.”
@@GreaterGrievobeast55
Darth Vader: "You underestimate the full power of the force. Let me show you."
@@multiverse_media2023 *insert this track*
@@nightwolf7k863
Darth Vader: "And I though Jar Jar was annoying. But you… you’re worst."
Miraak: "I’m gonna enjoy killing you."
@@multiverse_media2023 miraak: and you can't even imagine what kind of power dragon born possess.
Imagine an air battle between Vader’s TIE Figher vs Miraak riding Sahrotaar (the Serpentine Dragon he commonly rides on). That would be epic.
YES!!
It’ll be perfect for an DBX episode.
Wiz: Darth Vader, the Dark Lord of the Galactic Empire.
Boomstick: Miraak, the first dragonborn.
Wiz: Every powerful evil always needs a deadly enforcer at their side in order to rule all they desire. They are one of the toughest main obstacles resisting rebellious heroes have to face.
Boomstick: They plan to strike fear into the hearts of all good men, and they do a damn good job at it, too! He’s Wiz and I’m Boomstick!
Wiz: And it’s our job to analyze their weapons, armor, and skills to find out who would win a Death Battle!
What's awesome about this is that there are mods for Darth Vader's armor and lightsabers, think there's even mods for force magic. You could essentially turn your Skyrim character into Darth Vader and replace the music during Miraak's fight with this to have this fight happen in canon.
Very happy to see that Elder Scrolls made its way into these commissioned tracks! Not sure who would win due to the tricky scalings, but I got my vote on Miraak.
Yeahhh Skyrim is safely low multi to outer with Vader at best planet XD
@@goldenfox8701 they scaled obi yoda and vader to low star level so its a stomp for this dark dovah.
@@chancethewrapperr Darth Vader VS King Andrias (Star Wars VS Disney's Amphibia) Kings of Dark Side
From what I've been able to gather, Miraak is immune to the unrelenting force shout (Fus~Roh~Dah) & the paralysis spell. So, Vader will have very hard time stopping him with his Force Push & Force Choke/Hold.
Only if the force push not stronger than Miraak himself
@@zhanbossi5511 it’s not
Miraak Is Also Classified As Undead And Considering How Long Hes Been In Oblivion I Doubt He Needs To Breath Anyway.
Miraak: The Voice is Strong with one...u don't know the power a true Dragonborn weirds...
Vader: then you will die braver then most... because u don't know the power of the dark side...
This track goes so hard! Miraak is such an awesome Elder Scrolls character and I’m so happy to see him get a commission! And Star Wars music + Skyrim music alone is enough to make this matchup kick ass, Miraak FTW!
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miraak will force his hand
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Never thought I’d see the First Dragonborn take on the Chosen One, but here we are. Music slaps hard as always.
I've never thought about this matchup, but after thinking about it, I quite like it. The track has a nice overall feeling of cold deadly power, which is the feeling I tend to get during Vader's more terrifying moments.
Ima say it, this is Vader’s best matchup as Miraak is literally just Vader story wise. And their connections are extremely similar too.
Clearly music is amazing, too!
The only bad apart is that Miraak stomps the living hell out of Vader and the entirety of Star Wars for the matter. Besides that it’s my favorite matchup around.
How exactly
I'd love to see what you'd do with a "What If Death Battle" video on Darth Vader vs Arthas the Lich King (Star Wars vs World of Warcraft).
...about that...
@@dr.fiction7 Already know. It was impressive, most impressive!
So, the Corrupted Chosen One and Dark Lord of the Sith vs The First Dragonborn and servant of Hermaeus Mora.
Should be interesting if this track says anything
An elderscrolls matchup with an awesome track, neat.
Also Miraak stomps hard.
I'm not sure about that. Would you please give me some feats?
I have quite a few for Vader, but I would like to hear some in the opposition's favor
How? Love Skyrim and SW
@@StarWritterSW I've never been able to play skyrim much so I don't know about it. I'm also curious as to what feats the dude has
@@shadowhawkrine1947 miraak has many dragon shouts that vader would have little defense against[depending on what db would give him], they could give him time stop which would be a instant win, the only thing vader has going for him is force pre-cognition and maybe able to stop shouts that spit elements or just good ol fus ro dah[ dragonborn force push] but otherwise he would have shouts that could either weaken him or even outright kill him.
He also mentions he could have killed Alduin, if taken at face value, makes him potentially planet to universal depending on how you interpret him feeding on souls from another realm and needing a specific shout that nullifies his immortality just to kill him. There's more but I have forgotten most of it, hope that helps
@@shadowhawkrine1947 Well for starters at minimum Miraak has to be universal in powers since Alduin, who has canonically eaten the entire physical universe multiple times in the cyclical death and rebirth of the mortal realm of Mundus, dies at the hands of The Last Dragonborn who Miraak fights to a stand still and even then it took them and the help of the Daedric Prince Hermaeus Mora to put Miraak down so he’s probably beyond that.
Given my lack of knowledge/ lack of caring for Elder Scrolls, I still prefer Vader's other more popular matchups, but I do really like the combination of their types of instrumentals from Star Wars and Elder Scrolls together here
Vader’s got a lot of good matchups, but this one’s my personal favorite. This track does it Justice.
Quite an original matchup. I’m happy to see Elder Scrolls tracks too.
Matchup is a bit rough perhaps but does appear interesting, even if Miraak probably curbstomps due to scaling via the Dragonborn and other characters.
As for the song I gotta say that I do appreciate this song. It’s overall got that pretty heavy and almost dark atmosphere but it doesn’t have that « creepy » feel that some other songs might have. Instead it has a few epic-sounding parts (IE: 1:01-1:28) that are a reminder at how strong both of those characters are.
2:21-3:14 also stands out IMO as being a much more heroic-sounding part. Which might sound a bit weird considering the characters but I do believe it makes sense. After all both Vader and even Miraak weren’t pure evil and had done, much more so for Vader, relatively heroic deeds in their pasts. Also it sounds really cool.
Overall a nice song with varied themes but that all fit the characters presented in the matchup. Good work.
Full context I am not familiar with elder scrolls lore very well. But I do think vader has a good chance here in terms of scaling. The elder scrolls is a fantasy based rpg series while reality warpers and the sort exist (daedric princes and what not) they are almost never used and their powers are unclear at best. The dragon borns feats may seem multiversal given what he’s fighting but it’s important to remember that we never see any feats undeniably multiversal or even planetary. We only have assumptions based off characters describing others as “gods” or what not.
Edit1- there is a lot of room for interpretation is basically what I’m saying. The universe itself just doesn’t seem to support multiversal or even planetary protagonists
the darkness has never sounded better
A lot more uplifting than I was expecting, given the combatants.
I'm more curious about how this fight would even start. Like how the fuck would these guys even meet each other when Miraak is trapped in an entirely separate higher dimensional plane of existence?
I mean it could just be Miraak escaping Apocrypha, since that was literally all he was trying to do in the DLC, and inadvertently agitating Vader in the process of said escape.
Vader could just get a Black Book and go to Apocrypha himself
@@bowsir9115 I guess that could work if he even knew what to look for.
@@dravensanders6157 vader’s a conesseuir of scary artifacts in the EU. It wouldn’t be out of character to fiddle around with something he shouldn’t if he thought it’d help him kill palps.
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 actually, if Miraak does end up killing Vader in Apocrypha, Vader would just go back to where he first read the Black Book since that's what happened when the Dovahkiin got killed by the Seekers after Miraak One-Shot them.
I was wondering if Miraak was gonna be in a commission. Not disappointed in the slightest.
An elder scrolls rep in death battle would be awesome.
Rooting miraak better vader.
Mirrak stomps he literally the strongest dragonborn with the player being the second who both scale above alduin a being who above daedric princess and Aedra
Few things wrong here
First, the Player is the strongest dragonborn, not Mirrak, the Dragonborn beat Mirrak single handedly and even absorbed his soul
Secondly Alduin is not above the daedric princes and aedra, in fact he is far below them, hell he himself claims to be the firstborn of Akatosh, which no doesn't scale Alduin to Akatosh since the vampires were Molag Ball's kids originally and none of them are even near his strength
@@LordBlizzard58 “single handedly”
Hermaeus Mora who have the Dragonborn everything he needed then stabbed Miraak in the back:
@@LordBlizzard58 Mirrak is above the player till final end of story before the first given he incapacitated the player when they first meet and forgot who but that one elf from morrow wind states the player is the second strongest dragon born
Alduin above them the same book even tells all daedric fear him with Dagon only constant picking a fight with him and losing everytime and akatosh was powerless to stop his son when he began the kalpaa
Vader comes back to life....somehow he returns
I like the very chanting as it feels like your facing that one boss who stalks you
Also epic mu and while not my favorite for vader (Koragg from mystic force) I like most of what vader has as mu's
I think this is one of vaders definite losses so yet another L to him. But I have never played scrolling elders
King Andrias VS Darth Vader (Disney's Amphibia VS Star Wars) Kings of Dark Side
Oooh, I love this! And the matchup.
Miraak's best feat is a lore tidbit about him having a shout duel that caused the island of Solstheim to split off from Skyrim. Which is impressive.
In a Death Battle, though, they tend to use Star Wars' Extended Universe for feats, and Vader as Anakin scales directly to Obi-Wan, which y''all should know how they treated by now.
Vader might have more raw power, but the dragon speech might give miraak certain abilites to compensate for this short coming. Also him canonically being able to go toe to toe with the latest dragon born, who potentially killed a reality eating dragon/ had power comparable to a weakened daedric prince at leadt by the time y’all fight speaks highly of miraak too. Though death battle doesn’t always scale like that.
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 The Last Dragonborn didn't kill Alduin, they destroyed the mortal avatar of Alduin (which has no feats) and sent the god within back to aetherius. The Last Dragonborn is only considered impressive in the versus community because they scale to Miraak, not the other way around.
Moreover than power, though, is speed and reaction feats. Vader has them in spades, whereas Miraak simply doesn't. His shout variety won't mean much if he can't actually hit Vader with them.
@@GermanKinsmen huh, how is alduin featless? He destroys a whole town, fought against other dragons and legendary warriors in sovengard (probably didn’t spell that write.) at in game, statement wise he’s destined to consume the world, and time warped a whole army. i’m not sure if mortal avatar would be an apt statement given how dragons work in the elder scrolls universe.
As for not being able to hit vader, i’m not sure why he wouldn’t. True vader can dodge attacks at sonic speed but he’d likely be more inclined to try and block it with his lightsaber or force wall, which might not work. And if regular star wars humans can still occasionally land some hits on the sith lord, i’m sure miraak could manage to get that will bend shout in at least once.
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 Destroying a whole town isn't that impressive of a feat, and fighting against other dragons and warriors of Sovngarde doesn't mean anything because neither the dragons nor the warriors have feats either. Alduin being destined to consume the world is irrelevant because that is a feat of the GOD Alduin, which is not what we fight. If we were fighting that Alduin, he would've simply eaten the world instead of losing, but he didn't and had his avatar destroyed instead. It IS mortal, because it can be killed. And because of that, we can't assume it's capable of the feats he is capable of as a god.
The Bend Will Shout is the most useless tool in Miraak's arsenal. Vader has canonically combatted and resisted mind control literally hundreds of times.
Camelworks and fudgemuppet have great videos on how scaling and lore works its a awesome watch if you want to know.
AMV Plan
Obito Uchiha & Terra-Xehanort - Dark Allegiance (Brandon Yates) (Full Version)
Tagline: "Founder Of The Akatsuki VS A Xehanort Who Possess Terra's Body With Darth Vader VS Miraak's Commission Track."
Obito VS Terra-Xehanort (Naruto VS Kingdom Hearts) | Dark Allegiance AMV
Corrupted Tsukuyomi (Obito VS Terra-Xehanort) [Naruto VS Kingdom Hearts]
Obito Uchiha & Naruto Was Owned By Masashi Kishimoto
Terra-Xehanort & Kingdom Hearts Was Owned By Disney & Square Enix
Galactic Separitists (Stormtroopers vs Battle Droids) [Star Wars Trilogy vs Star Wars Prequels
While this isn't my preferred for Vader (that honor goes to Sepulchure from Adventure Quest), this track is nevertheless really well done. The chanting is very atmospheric and haunting.
I can see this track being use for Miraak vs Final Fantasy Garland
Very interesting and I love how the music starts
Now I want Pelinal Whitestrake (The Elder Scrolls) vs Doomslayer (DOOM)
Wouldn’t really be a fight. They’d likely just team up to kill demons/daedra
@@JadenLingerfelt exclude daedras, pelinal does KILL ELVES, CRUSADE, KILL ELVES, CRUSADE
*I felt inspired to write this based on the video.
Figrin D'an and the Modal Nodes - "Our hero, our hero. Claims a force wielder's heart. I tell you; I tell you. The Skywalker comes. With a body wielding power of the Living~Force arts. Believe, believe the Skywaker comes. It's an end to the evil of the Galaxy's foes. Beware, beware, the Skywalker comes. For the darkside has passed & the legends yet grows. You'll know, you'll know the Skywalker's come. (Ah-ah-ah X8) Skywalker, Skywalker, by his honor is sworn, to keep the darkside forever at bay! And the fiercest foes rout when they hear lightsaber's shout, Skywalker, for your blessing we pray! Our hero, our hero. Claims a force wielder's heart. I tell you; I tell you. The Skywalker comes. With a body wielding power of the Living~Force arts. Believe, believe the Skywaker comes. It's an end to the evil of the Galaxy's foes. Beware, beware, the Skywalker comes. (Ah-ah-ah X8) Skywalker, Skywalker, by his honor is sworn, to keep the darkside forever at bay! And the fiercest foes rout when they hear lightsaber's shout, Skywalker, for your blessing we pray! I tell you; I tell you. The Skywalker comes."
Given my lack of knowledge for Elder Scrolls, I think Vader needs his Legends powers and abilities to either win or hold his own.
To last 3 minutes he needs legends.
Yeah about that….Elder Scrolls, especially if using lore for feats, kinda blows Star Wars out of the water. Like The Last Dragonborn, who Miraak should scale to, at minimum is Universal just by beating Alduin.
Sadly don't matter if he got legends or not, TES is stupid broken
Oof. Second L for Vader then. (First being Anakin VS Terra. Anakin Skywalker is still Vader)
My boy can't catch a break ☠️
Legends Vader would mop the floor with Miraak, but if we’re talking canon Vader than Miraak has a decent shot.
He doesn't
Miraak is at minimum universal and out haxxes Vader. So no.
Sorry for the kate response but… Miraak quite literally solos Legends. Legends only has around 5 maybe 6 uni characters and Vader isn’t even one of them.
The Dark Lord of the Sith VS The First Dragonborn? Nice one!
I still like Obito vs Vader and I don't care if You say Obito would win I still stay Vader. (:
Vader wins, if Obi vs Kakashi was any indication lol
@@ducklord4126 comparing kak to Obito when Obito is far above anything Kakashi has at his disposal
@@unitedgibberish4479 I think he ment comparison between Obi Wan and Vader.
I like this one way more than Vader vs Obito. Nice idea!
Oh hell yeah. My absolute favorite Darth Vader matchup.
Fatalis(Monster Hunter) vs Alduin(Elder Scrolls)
Alduin would win because only A Dragonborn can kill Alduin the world eater.
Okay, this is epic
Why does vader have the worst luck
Miraak scales to alduin. How will darth vader survive a second??
Impressive, most impressive
Connections between them
Both chosen ones[ miraak possibly less so as he's not the only dragonborn but he was given power and rank like vader], both betrayed their orders[ jedi, dragon priest] and both worked under a new darker master[Palpatine, hermaues mora, though hermaues mora is more eldritch then dark] also both are surpassed by successors[luke, dragonborn]
-Arrogant, masked conquerors who know a worthy challenge when they see it
-Started as high-ranking members of a cult-like group (Anakin was a Jedi and Miraak was a Dragon Priest)
-They were prophesied as a warrior of destiny (Anakin was the Chosen One who would lead the Jedi from the darkness of the Sith while Miraak was the First Dragonborn who was destined to defeat Alduin)
-They sought out knowledge from a dark lord (Anakin sought out Palpatine, who was the Sith Lord the entire time, and Miraak sought out Hermaeus Mora, the Daedric Prince of Fate and Knowledge)
-They became corrupted by their dark masters into betraying their groups (Anakin was killing multiple of his own Jedi while Miraak killed and absorbed the souls of the dragons he served, even bending them to his will)
-During these hard times, they lost things that were dear to them (Anakin lost his wife while Miraak had his temple destroyed by the dragons)
-They battled one of their own and roundly lost (Anakin fought Obi-Wan while Miraak fought Vahlok the Jailor)
-They were almost killed but were saved by their dark masters and they made them more powerful later on (Palpatine gave Anakin his suit under the name of Darth Vader while Miraak was given more knowledge from Mora's realm, Apocrypha, as well as a new squid-like mask)
-Years later, they brought entire provinces to their knees without even having to be present
-Soon after, new warriors of destiny emerged from the ashes of despair and fought these two, but lost (Luke Skywalker was fodderized by Vader while the Last Dragonborn was fodderized by Miraak)
-The dark ones soon recognized their talents (Vader realized that Luke was a Jedi and his own son while Miraak realized that his opponent was a Dragonborn like he is)
-They soon realized that they were being mere pawns [Albeit in different time periods]
-The warriors became stronger than before and battled the fallen ones once again
-The battle was interrupted by their dark masters, and those dark masters killed them [The only difference is Vader succeeded in being released from Sidious' grasp while Miraak died and remained in Apocrypha
-Upon death, they wished the new warriors well in their rewards and adventures, as they have had before
I wonder how Wiz and Boomstick would start this off
On an unrelated note who would win between:
Jun sekibayashi (kengan) vs mt toba (baki)
Brook vs lord raptor
When you realize Hermaeus Mora Is a better boss than Palpatine.
This is honestly my preferred match for vader
be cool if there was a track for dragonbron vs. Geralt
Interesting match not sure who wins
I heard that Miraak wins if this were to happen
Yea.... And it's nowhere close....
@@theganondorky7238 Even if we use Legends Vader?
Yep, TES a lot of TES characters easily reach the second highest tier in vs and have stupid abilities
Kane.
based Elder Scrolls W
Interesting. Gonna go with Vader but I have a feeling that I’m wrong
Read Elderscrolls lore. Shits wack.
This is fucking based
So…
Who else came here after Stitch VS Rocket Raccoon?
I AM IN FUXKINF SHAMBLES
I know I’m late but does anyone know a good matchup for dagoth-ur?
Miraak may be powerful in his own right, the first Dragonborn is no slouch, but he has his limits. Miraak was bested in combat by his fellow Dragon Priest Vahlok, and would've died had it not been for Mora's intervention. But as powerful as Miraak is, he is no match for the power that the Force's Fallen Savior can bring. Bow Down to Lord Vader, the Mightiest Sith of all time.
No.
I’ll explain.
Remember Alduin? He was going to consume reality and every single timeline in the Elder Scrolls (this is canon). Making him at the least universal.
Dragonborn killed him, with little to no assistance, and that leads to the Dragonborn DLC, where Miraak just low diffs the Dragonborn at the beginning meaning he was stronger at that moment.
This is because after being rescued by Mora he accumulated power using the black books and every bit of knowledge Mora gave him. Shouts are capable of destroying reality itself and Miraak has created new ones himself.
He also has lightning magic, which Vader’s suit is weak to and would fry it. Vader is powerful but you’re overestimating him and are underestimating Miraak.
And I’m lowballing Miraak. His higher stuff is multiversal levels of destruction.
Vader is strong but Miraak is stronger.
@@MrLimboRL Ok,
First: Miraak taking down the Dragonborn during their first encounter is weird to begin with. Why was the Dovahkiin just standing still and just let Miraak zap them? Dovahkiin could've gotten a sneak attack on Miraak!
Second: Shouts can't destroy reality, they can alter it, that fact is indisputable, but Dragon Shouts are a far cry from Dwarven Tonal Architecture. None of the shouts show any signs of reality destruction, and if you can name one then I'll rescind my second point.
Thirdly: Miraak is NOT high Multiversal, and you will not convince me otherwise. The Daedra may be extra dimensional demons, but all of Oblivion, Aetherius, and Nirn all exist within the same single universe. The only Multiversal beings in the Elder Scrolls are the Primals, Anu and Padomay. So if you are trying to argue that Miraak (and by Scaling the Dovahkiin) is on par with literal OUTER GODS, then I'm not buying it.
Finally: I actually forgot about the Weakness Palpatine put into Vader's Suit to lighting. For a long time I assumed it was specifically FORCE Lightning Vader had a weakness to, and then the Comics had him incapacitated by a rogue Lightning strike, although he did survive it.
OH WAIT A MINUTE! Vader Scaled to Kenobi, who scales to that Jedi who moved a fucking BLACK HOLE. Do not underestimate the Force.
@@treybrzezowski3259 he’s at least universal scaling to Alduin who is explicitly stated to be able to consume timelines and reality. So Miraak still wins.
Nice track like always and vader wins
Not true. Elderscrolls lore gets WAY out of league for Starwars.
@@weskintime4177 oh what level does the lore get miraak at vader is star level
@@luisbalbuena6563 Best of Elder Scrolls gets to Outer. Even without that Miraak should be at least uni.
@@luisbalbuena6563 beyond concepts through “The Bones of The Earth” which control the concepts behind words using the dragons language of Tonal Magic that allows them to manipulate the idea of Free Will, the Soul, Fire, Ice, the Cold, Force, and the power of Storms. The entirety of the Elderscrolls takes place in a universe that is made up of the corpse of the strongest god who scales above and relative to the Daedra who all have realms that are infinite in size (so is Sovenguarde, the Nordic death realm), among other things. Also resists time-hax because dragons are gods of time, unable to age (only rot if they are trapped in the Soul Cairn, where they become truly immortal to any and all damage but slaves to humans who became Psuedo-Daedric lords called Ideal Masters, but that’s another point). Miraak scales to the main Dragonborn who could wield all three Elderscrolls in Skyrim those being the Blood/Dragon/Sun scrolls (all scrolls are stated as being batteries of creation which is low outer at peak).
#DarkAllegiance💀👽💥☠👍
Can someone please tell me who this Miraak is? I have never played Elder Scrolls before.
Imma give you just a (small) amount of info on him.
Mortal body with an immortal dragon soul that can only be TRULY killed by a fellow DB. He is the Champion of Hermaeus Mora, the Daedric Prince of all knowledge: written, unwritten, thought of or not, ideas that will and will not exist are known to Hermaeus. Miraak has the soul of a dragon, making him resist time altering abilities to an extent (only can temporarily send him to the future to prolong the fight until that point), and using Tonal Magic from the Dragon Tongue he can manipulate “The Bones of The Earth”, which control the concepts of: The Soul, Free Will, Storms, Time, Force, Fire, Ice, The Cold, The Aura of Living and the Dead, The Speed of a Whirlwind, Self-Soul Manipulation to become immune to all damage, The True Form of his Dragon Soul to Protect him, and he can Mark Someone’s Soul for death (few of these are in gameplay, however given that he is the student of Hermaeus Mora who has all knowledge except outside of time he should know some of these).
@@weskintime4177 Who do you think wins this fight?
@@MidnightPhantom Vader is an annoying opponent, but Concept Manipulation > Vader’s Dark Force (using legends). Both are easily outerversal, though Miraak in lore just scales higher and even using only his gameplay shouts without the argument of being the student of infinite and most timeless knowledge outside Elderscrolls themselves and his dragon soul innate resistances to time and other things like that he takes it pretty easily. Hell, no shout cooldown for Manipulating the Force (both metaphorically using Unrelenting Force and literally as the Force could in theory be effected by it), Fire, can call other dragons who DO have said shouts so he can eat their souls or use them as allies and calling on his own souls powers.
Vader’s best advantage is his Force precognition which exists even in hyperspace (outside regular spacetime) and his ability to manipulate the force in ways that would be hard to deal with without prior knowledge. Not too much to work on.
That's what google is for?
@@analternatemultiverse2063 Just wanted to ask someone who might now them better
Tl;Dr Unless you highball Miraak, Vader wins.
Only way I see Miraak winning is if both A. He gets an amp from Hermaeus Mora or B. His soul stealing ability works on people as well as dragons. Considering we never see him attempt this against the player, I doubt it.
That being said, Miraak is at least comparable to the Dragonborn, who while in theory is as strong as a Universal being (alduin) had to use a special ability to even make him harmable, and he had to drag him into the afterlife to kill Alduin. So I say it's more the Dragonborn made Alduin weak enough to fight rather than the Dragonborn being universal.
1 Alduin hyper to outerversal as he scales above all Daedra and Daedric Prince even transform a regular Deadric into Dagon and beats him up every time as told The Seven Fights of The Aldudagga a cannon story made later on by a Writer of the elder scroll
2 dragon born never weakens Alduin the dragonrend forces the concept the mortality to a dragon and makes them unable to focus, so he just confuses and dazes dragons with that shout so dragon born and Mirakk scale to Alduin
The utter lowball.
I’m not going to do another 10 minute long explanation.
@@spinozilla2421 not all of that guys stories are canon, but they are well informed fan-fictions that align with the lore.
@@weskintime4177 pretty sure they are canon they the addon is promoted as “official” and approved by the writers and
Directors. and the book whole purposes serve as the backbone of Skyrim's main story, as it explains what Alduin is, what a Kalpa is, and why the cycle exists.
@@spinozilla2421 If the dragonrend forced Alduin to be mortal then wouldn't the Dragonborn lose without it?