I apologize for the quality of the footage during the more intense fighting scene. For some reason, my recording software just breaks when a lot of particles and effects are thrown on the screen at the same time. What do you wish to see added in Part 2? Edit: I want to add this because I don't want people to misinterpret it. When I talked about the story, I didn't mean that I wanted to change the way they write stories. I love Honkai because of the unique way it tells the story and focuses on the characters. But, I would like for them to be a little more mindful when it comes to the pacing, and not overuse the scientific jargon too much in a single chapter. I would like to see Honkai return to the Chapters 16 - 25 Era. I think that's when they nailed the best of both worlds.
I wish to not lose the ability to play with keyboard only. From Genshin/HSR we know they can just disable remapping attacks from left/right mouse buttons and FORCE us to play with mouse. I am not doing this! If they will - I'll use remapping software instead. But that will be another thing to hate about part 2 aside from terrible new UI experience which just adds a lot of additional clicks on valk/team screens.
I really wish that they would keep the old health bars and stuff. The combat buttons look confusing to use. I hope the combat buttons are something like apho 2 with only 5 usable buttons that are easy to understand and not just randomly cluttered at the bottom right.
Yeeees bro, we need english dub to attract new players and male characters like in Star Rail and Genshin it should be pretty obvious to understand. Also I agree about lost coop opportunities, we need more game modes to engage with the community a little bit. And armada/dorm need improvement too. They could add Fall guys type minigames but it would require keeping servers intact which could be unprofitable yeah.
I know that they added the option to play with the mouse. I'm not sure if they completely removed the option to play keyboard only. I hope not! I'm using a controller anyway, but I know many people who prefer to play keyboard only.
@@HomuLabs yes, you get it! That's exactly what I'm saying: more options is good, less options or replacing one with another not letting you to choose is bad.
It needs to return to ER part 3 kind of story telling. The conversations are fun, concise, and are of the right amount of exposition. And in between is fun gameplay.
This is absolutely wishful thinking but I rlly hope augment cores make a return. Even if it’s just for old S Ranks, Fervent Tempo and Twilight Paladin’s releases were so hype for me when they dropped and I rlly miss not having to pull every patch
yeah, some old valk like Durandal Valkyrie Gloria & Raven Midnight Absinthe deserve augment upgrade since their stigmata is more useful than the Valkyrie itself.😅
Personally, I wish they'd revamp the dorm system. The chibis are really cute but the things you can do in dorm are very limited. The crafting system for dorm furniture is archaic to say the least, and aside from a few interactions between certain characters there really isn't any reason to decorate or even visit the dorm. Armada system needs a revamp as well, but it's such a marginal feature i doubt they'll consider it.
Honestly, i'm thinking merging dorm with Armada. Imagine if we can visit our Armada headquarter with our chibi valk and chatting or playing some minigames
I just started playing the prologue with Helia and Coralie visiting Kiana and I already really like them. The mentor moments with them and the OG's are actually really nice. Helia is currently my fav so far and I'm really looking forward to seeing how the others on Mars turn out and their dynamics and interactions with the 2 girls.
One of the things I'm most excited for in Part 2 is getting some new vocal themes! With a new cast they can't keep relying on the same tracks, e.g Sennen no Hane playing all the time to represent Fu Hua. Very interested to hear some new singers for the new characters :)
Im just happy that HI is getting this much investment from hoyo. Its my favourite gacha game and unfortunately it doesnt make much money compared to Genshin and HSR. I was so happy to hear that HI was a complete passion project from hoyo, their love child basically. Getting a new engine, updating so much requires a lot of dedication and especially costs. For them to improve upon this game just because they like it makes me so happy. I understand that many people dont like seeing new characters and 'throwing away all the part 1 characters', we should all know that they wont just completely throw away all the part 1 cast we love. Atleast give these new characters a chance. ER was the same when it released and some of the characters are fan favourites now. Personally, I'll happily continue my journey through part 2.
Gameplay will be good for sure, but that's the only part I'm actually excited about. Story - no info, but might be good as well, because I did not enjoy HI3 story starting from HoT arc unlike Genshin whish was only getting better with Sumeru (groundhog day, Jeht series) and Fontaine (pretty much all of it) and HSR was not bad with more humor and overall less seriouseness (like WTH was that Argenti quest? :D).
people just hate change, they cant accept new characters or story or some even gameplay, imo just dont pay attention form ur own thoughts, for me i loved everything about part 1 as whole and the first 6 years of hi3, cant wait for the next 6 years and next part of the story hopefully it keep up the quality of the part 1 story
Mostly because the game is evolving away from the 'old honkai' which makes part 2 feel too disconnected It feels like it should be a whole new game but its overhauling part 1 instead
@@MbahtedjoOfficialI dont undestand people that need certain chapter or other event happening in the story to get into the story or the game itself, I always loved Honkai even from the start, yeah you can say it was a bit rushed and unpolished in some parts but that is the problem these types of game has, having to provide something in a short amount of time, Honkai always try to experiment and sometimes work and sometimes not, but well I undestand that much people isnt acustomed to VN type of presentation
as a side note, they are DEFINITELY adding males as collaborators rather than as playable/controllable units, seeing from the dreamseeker being able to change genders and they're collaborators. (collaborators is basically part 2 elfs and based off the lyle moon ring system)
yeah, people complaining about having male playable characters suck, and 99% of the chance they are people with their own solar systems who call every fictional women character a waify regardless of age and physical attributes :( I just want playable male characters (Kalpass is such a smash)
@@Gaeshiete i dont get how anybody can think male characters are a bad thing. Only females in a stroy makes it kinda boring, the diversity males bring would be a nice addition to the game
@@redsky397 fr diversity is key, add male characters. Su and Kevin were cool also add different skintones and colourtones so less people complain and also cuz skn diversity also helsp the cast look bigger and more fleshed out (idrc tbh, im just bored of the all white and pale battlesuits, add the darker colours back)
12:10 honkai’s story always had males, they should be playable. It was never supposed to be something taboo to think, it’s ridiculous how many get mad at that take.
@@jeremywinston1fr Im betting these players just want to feel special in HI3rd, and make it their own harem with only female playable character..little do they know that pretty much all HI3rd characters are lesbian (im fine with ships and simping, but to the point where you dont want male playable characters? atp just go play an actual low quality waifu Gacha game)
@@Gaeshiete i agree. It’s a game almost full of lesbians so they wouldn’t even give a fuck about the male players anyway, besides “feeling special” or hating men, i don’t see another possibility. Someone once said that “it would feel weird” and that was the best justification that user could give.
Same... It's literally my only concern of part 2. There's just no way for me to get invested in a generic, self insert, cardboard cutout of a character. Only way for them to save it is if the MC is actually not part of the story, but thats probably not going to happen...
@@Valbert94 “only way to save it”? lol. Here’s an alternative way: the character not being a a brainless self-insert. It literally isn’t, everyone assumes that simply because there’s a male version. She can talk and has a personality like normal characters. Even HSR MC that doesn’t talk much is not a true self-insert since the dialogue options showcase her sassy and little dumb personality, same with ZZZ MCs, the only self-insert in hoyo is Traveler.
With how part 1.5 went - I'm actually still very excited for part 2. I was worried 1.5 would be filler - it was anything but that imo (especially the characters). I would like part 2 to have more coop minigame events - I loved the chibi team fighter mode and fall guys-like (they've shown they're clever with using existing resources)
I would like if they used the affection system to show us some cut scene what happend in the time skip. Like if we have a Sushang and Susannah or a Misteln and a Prometheus with maxed out affection we get a short scene what they did in the mean time.
@3:00 Localization: The issue is Mihoyo is still undervaluing an EN version of this game despite the success of Genshin and StarRail. This game would also go over well (at least the parts of the story that don't require a PhD in theoretical physics) with English speaking players if it had a full dub and consistent text
I personally think that they should at least remaster the part one, especially the older chapters. Im talking about map remakes with better graphics and maybe even add some new level mechanics to some of them.
Agree with everything, i just want for them to expand dorms... We've had the same stuff for ages now... Only adding chibi valks... Also a claim all and dispatch again for expedition and errands, just like genshin.
Love this type of video, and would definitely like to see more like this in the future! I agree with all of your suggestions, particularly allowing new players to start in Part 2 and the English dub (at least starting from Part 2, I think that'll be the easiest way for them to justify that from a business point of view) I also wouldn't mind future videos where you share what you thoughts on a particular story arc, a little like what you talk about in your streams. Not in terms of explaining the lore, but what aspects and parts of a particular story arc you liked and thought they wrote well, what could be better etc. Love all your videos and hard work!
I agree with most of the points you mentioned. When I played Star rail, I noticed just how easy it was to do everything. It was all well optimised and nothing was wasteful. I would add that the HI3 Gacha system could see improvements. I like the gacha system but the fact that different banners don't share a pity means that I shouldn't use foca supply unless I can guarantee the equipment. And there are too many banner types.
Homu labs, I love your videos. I always get excited when you post one because I know that you love honkai impact just as much as I do! This video tackled some issues in the game that some people refuse to admit. I think it was a great idea to outline some weaknesses of honkai impact even though some people may disagree. I wish you the best in your future and I will continue watching your videos!
9:42 a RUclipsr named Nemu Benzene actually did this in SSS FGO, and not just Kallen, but with almost all Valks that's outdated to be honest. Sadly Nemu doesn't have 4/4 HoRb or 4/4 Kira so the scores are not impressive. Although it's still good considering the valks are VERY OLD.
I love the content of you just talking about the state of the game! HI3 feels in a lot of ways very underrepresented in the content creator space, so it's nice to just hear other people's thoughts!
* upgrade and expand dorm (make one for all like 2-3 years ago with global weakly/monthly rewards) * Make armada smaller (30 or so) and make leaderboard for them - replace with current player only leaderboard (Make a boss for armada to enjoy but let rewards be atleast 80-90% with 10-20 active f2p people to get) * Make world boss so everyone can enjoy the rewards (maybe keep ladder cuz who cares.. free rewards and for competitive for something to do) Basically make it fun for compatitive and let f2p also get most of rewards - compatitive people will have fun and f2p will cheer for them :). IMO. Idk the consequence of this but i think its win-win. (also maybe colaborators with both female and male forms - we have bubble worlds :D)
2 is an owful idea. As if being gear/valk dependent wasn't enough now you need a well geared entire armada as well? Yay, let's spread even more toxicity!
I tried to soften the blow with addition that only 10ish active players would be needed to get all (or 90%) rewards (like about first reward for sim battle)... guess just update simbattle. i was thinking along the lines like minigames not necesserally with own valks (yeah i cant spell) - like the mode that will replace coop or event. Boss was unthoughtful and i can see it being bad. However if you think its gonna breed toxicity then i agree that it is bad idea. @@user-kf7oq6uw8f
My Wishlist: 1. Part 1 Chapter Area, Character, & Enemy Visual Overhaul (like how Part 2 looks) 2. Playable Males (Kevin, Su, Otto, Welt, Kalpas, Kosma, Siegfried, etc.) some of the best characters in the game are males, please!!!! 3. More (Challenging) Endgame Content // That's doable with older characters for more team comp variety 4. Replayable Open-World Chapters (and Elysian Realm) e.g. Kolosten, Elysium Everlasting, New Atra, etc. 5. Incorporate Manga & VN into Part 1 Story 6. Full PlayStation Controller Support // I hate using Mouse Cursor for UI Love the video concept, keep these up!
Im fully agree especially with the first point. Since ch1 is still relevant for the story we need it and all the stuff associated with updated atleast visually. I even see some chapters being merged into one open world location.
@@Zora72954 Genshin and HSR arent even bad, your just blind (Traveller does suck tbh, but Trailblazer has a very defined personality, they're basically trolls) (and from waht we've seen in the trailer, HI3rd "self-insert" actually have personalities and voicelines, the only thing about them is the fact you can choose a gender)
I too am excited for part 2! I want rework of universal mirage too but mostly, an alternative way to get weapons besides praying for it to appear in the gacha
i agree on some your points while others are not my concern 1- farming for stigmata set especially g2 and g3 takes almost a year, especially that we have 6 invitation tickets and that thing that double the rewards, adding to it g1 cost 700 fuel to craft which is not easy to get as well 2- optimization for open world is a most its not like my phone is new or something but it struggle when i go to open world content while it can handle other content fairly good 3- changing achievement system is welcomed 4- now i understand why am not being promoted in the abyss even though am doing good enough like i get around 600 points in last stage so yeah i hope they don't make promotion according to leaderboard
I hadn't even considered an achievements system. It could be quite fun. Also, do people know about the badges for beating every Flamechaser ~40 times? I remain optimistic about the story and Hua's chapter strengthened my faith. I am hoping we get a core cast with multiple battlesuits, and real character development. Meeting future playable characters well before they release would be great too. I do disagree with the reduction of the competitive aspect. It's a great feeling when you beat someone with better gear or the latest valk, even though the reward difference can be zero to small. But they've already shown that they are moving away from it with fixed score rewards in ER and SSS MA. They could actually use the virtual trophy system too and maybe promote more people in RL than demote. This whole thing is going to change a lot though. The gacha changes will compress the difference between spenders and F2P and make it slightly more skill based. Abyss has also become a lot more varied due to our large roster of characters. I think we're almost at the point where you could pull for who you want and keep a good placement.
Ngl the only reason why I'm still playing HI3 is because of the leader boards, especially when I see that I did better than someone who has better gear than me Otherwise there's legitimately no challenge in the game at all, and being better means nothing
Playable men would be so cool! However, the thing I wanted the most is new users for old weapon types, especially for those old non-signature weapons to see some use. Like, only Durandal (and Asuka, but she isn't obtainable anymore) have lances, and than they created javelin users? Oh, come on!
Hey, regarding the crystal income from playing abyss. I have seen multiple people that play outdated valks/poorly equipped valks playing abyss and easily maintaining in agony 3. From that point of view i calculated the differences in crystal income between agony 3 and nirvana and per patch it was only about 4 pulls (1200 crystals) differnce. I surely understand the point from your perspective about not caring about competition and wanting the leaderboard to be removed just because of the 4 pulls difference between the ranks wouldnt really be good in my opinion.
I agree with so many things here. I really want some coop , I really want a more digestible story , I really want some playable men and O MY GOD PLEASE MAKE STIGMAS faster grind able. It takes 1-2 months to make 1 stigma ;-; I also really hope it won’t be a Genshin number two (similar type ) game. Otherwise I’m really excited for the new part. I so far find the characters really interesting and I can’t wait to meet them. Ps: I LOVE your vids. I might not always comment but always watch. Your lore videos are literally a god send. Bonus: your voice is relaxing XD Keep up the good work
Man I love the valk design in 1:20. She looks insane. When will she release? But like putting leaks in for the most insane and op looking valk in a lore video. Idk if you can do it XD :3
I also kinda wish they update old stages and valkyries with the new tech, even if slowly. They don't even need fully change old valks or bring them to meta, just some buffs and adjusts would be amazing, like Umbral Rose applying bleed (or cause Bleed DMG), old elemental valkyries causing elementhal dmg instead psy and maybe SP regen/freeze time in ult, even with the same %, animations and being weak, that would make them more usable and fun, it would be good for new players tho
I actually want the old style of text box bac ..with every characters being given a color on the text they are speaking ..it adds so much distinction not only to the game but the characters as well ..also its much more easier to read than small tiny white text on a transparent gray bar
i mostly agree with this video, even as a mostly f2p player imo leaderboards system is already fine as it is and its one of my reason to still play this game. Without the leaderboards it would just be like a normal weekly gamemode that you just complete it then never touch it again until the next reset. The only thing that i would change is the reward and make it the same at all tiers.
Homulab just suggesting that the whole reward isn't been decided based on player score rank but through finishing all 4 stage. He never said all tier in abyss must get the same quantity of reward. If all tier in abyss get the same quantity reward, there's no reason to competing rank in the first place. Since a most captain rather stay at the lowest tier like Sinful or Agony 1.
I agree with you on a lot of points *especially on how lengthy some of the dialogue has been in recent chapters,* they really need to shorten it a bit at some times in the story. And YES, MY FRIENDS WOULD LOVE A CONSOLE RELEASE! hopefully Part 2 manages to deliver really well on launch, *but what I'm REALLY hoping for at some point is a permanent playable Kevin Kaslana.* (I'm high on hopium IK but I f-ing need Kevin 😂)
I am excited for part 2, but unfortunately 1 thing that i expected seems like didn't happen in part 2, and that is the MC, appearing the male version of MC, i thought we finally got another male characters that will be playable just like Adam, we can use in combat, but turns out MC is just a support (collaborator) character in combat like Lyle in APHO 2 🗿🗿
when i first heard about part 2 in august/october i hated the idea a LOT because it seemed like theyre were just milking the game and i also HATE self-insert MCs (especially since honkai was the only hyv game to not have one) BUT now that part 2 is out, i actually don't mind it? i like it. i like the animations and scenes and how that its not a visual novel game anymore, and i also like how the MC actually has consistent voicelines which makes them feel more like a character in the game.
I hope the part 2 mc isnt a mute mc, even partially. I want them to voice all of their dialogues and please remove choices unless they are done for comedy like in star rail sometimes and make them VOICED, thats one of the things i find lacking in star rail story tbh, and i hope the story continues to remain character driven like honkai impact always has been and not go the mostly world driven route like GI or HSR
Doubt... Asuka was never meta. It depends if they could rerun her or not in the future. It's not a good idea to put a meta unit in a limited event that will never rerun.
@@HomuLabs To be honest, I forgot about Asuka. I wasn't able to play during the collab due to various reasons and I kind off erased the entire event from my memory.
Meh just for first info update but when more time come. More info from Beta yeah everyone excited also for everyone who afraid about silence self don't worry in new PV about Seradine our MC really have so much dialog like another character
I would like the possibility to speed run events. Unfortunately the events have some type of stamina that doesn't allow you to complete the events unless you play all the days. In Genshin and Star Rails you can speed run the events in the last day, you cannot do that in Honkai Impact.
I believe its depending on the type event. I mean HI3rd event always has a type of event that we need to enhance something or ability to help player to pass some high challenge. And so they limited the grind for enhancement material stage at least 2 times a day. HSR event is 100% rely on your current original character stat, that's why you can just brush through event on last day without even care to learn about the rule of event.
I am a big story enjoyer and read all the mangas and played all the VNs so I am not afraid of reading but I still found my engagement with the story declined as the chapter length ballooned. Sometimes constraints foster creativity and I feel like being limited to such short chapter runtimes really pushed the writers to create a concise and punchy narrative. When I watch people play through the early chapters I notice the majority of the dialogue is memorable and the story beats are almost all important. The post open-world style chapters tend to just waffle a lot with bloated dialogue that doesn't have the same impact and the plot sort of meanders. I'm going to let them cook in part 2 and give it a fair shot because I've enjoyed all of Hoyo's games but I am definitely slightly concerned that the growing focus on open world is going to result in a watered down experience that fails to be open world enough to capture what makes Genshin special while sacrificing what made HI3 special in the process. I'm super glad co-op is going away and I don't want it back in any form. I don't play these games for a multiplayer experience and they aren't well suited to co-op anyway since playing only one valk basically disables the core mechanic of the game. I actually like the leaderboards even though I am not a whale. Though I do not disagree with you that most f2p/budget players probably don't like it. For me the competitive scoring and having to fight to try and retain Nirvana as much as possible without spending a ton of money makes me care about malding strats and improving my gameplay. It can get frustrating at times but it keeps me engaged and playing a lot more than Genshin and HSR quick one-and-done clears. The main changes I want for part 2 is just a substantial reduction in daily and weekly chores. This game already has more than enough gameplay time in the competitive end game modes plus story and event content. We don't need boring weekly ER runs, mirage farm, co-op (or the solo style stuff that is replacing it fully in p2), open world tasks, event dailies, and on and on. Just bake the mats rewards into clearing abyss, memorial, and events. Let us send dorm expeditions to collect PRI mats instead of useless A-rank fragments, etc.
i pretty much agree completley, it's only that my F2P ass cant afford to make a lot of teams, especially ones that are fully geared, or have good gear (why is crafting so damn expensive for no reason at all!) I wish the powercreep just diedm down, maybe just buff older units directly and maybe nerf newer units somehwat to create a smaller gap in power, and nerf bosses by a lot, making crafting cheaper
I had no idea part 2 was not available until you pass level 30, I can't imagine new players coming over to check it out being engaged in the old content for hours on end before they actually see the update, that seems like a bad idea for anyone who was sold on the new content
List of what I hope happen in Part 2: - New Coop feature return in future version. - Updating Armada & Chibi feature. - Old valk Augment upgrade with Astral Ring support feature will be release. - Abyss update: full Crystal reward wasn't set based on score rank except Floor tier & stage. (It will motivate lot of beginner captain to play Abyss even if they were not try to get high score) What I hope to experience in Part 2 story. - Story telling has both long writing VN vibe & has lot of adventuring at the same time. - Doesn't have spin-off character story that was consider as non-canon to mainstory. (I don't like how Honkai Star Rail Character quest feels like never a part of their mainstory) - I want every event, quest & side quest has significant impact to character development in the mainstory onward. - I don't mind having a male playable or just a support. (They do pretty good job for Adam in APHO, that mean its possible) My impression on Dreamseeker & Songque - I like male Dreamseeker design more but I never consider him/her as main protagonist. I rather consider him/her as one of many important character that will help move the story. - Songque design was like a proper Valkyrie but I like the idea where there's lot side character in HI3rd where they exist in story despite unplayable (exp: Tesla/Einstein/Sora/Schrodinger) - I believe not all important character must have capability to battle on their own to be important to story. ps: I really don't want HI3rd force a supposed to be a normal character to be playable like how every character in Honkai Star Rail even created a nonsense skill just to make them playable.
there are a lot of things that i agree and disagree with you first thing first, as much as i don't like English Dub. IT IS A MUST HAVE, honestly ever since playing the other hoyoverse game, i noticed i know a lot more people that uses English dub than japanese when the game is anime like game. plus it also gives you a new perspective (i wanna hear how senti sounds like) and then about the format of the game being a VN with a gameplay, it would be very difficult to revamp the whole format without making a hole in their wallet. though they should at least gives the early chapters more retouch (i know they did update some of the stages and removes unnecessary stages) Coop being removed are truly sad but i don't really feel like i'll miss it, but i really do hope they actually revamp it while it's being removed, preferably not something similar to raids. agreed with the localization and no further comment as for the leaderboard, i think its best if they just removes the crystal reward that ties with the leaderboard but instead keep the rank of exalted to superlotus and make it still ties with the leaderboard. as for playable male, honestly, if it brings more players. do it. more players more tears after all as for console version i think it would be very difficult since PC and android version you have to download different client for which server you're gonna play, unless later they somehow make it 1 client for all region available also MOUSE SUPPORT IS REAL ?! one last thing that i actually want from Part 2 while it's not really tied to Part 2 story i would like a proper captainverse story all of em available outside the event preferably retouched to remove the event-like gameplay of it (i don't even care if i don't get the crystal I WANNA SEE "THE DAY YOU VANISHED WITH THE STARS")
I think the success of FGO showed the industry how the meta can change for gacha writing and since there's likely a lot of VN fans on the staff they really wanted the next step. Can they reach enough of that kind of audience and maintain a similar balance is another question though. If they really want to emphasis that kind of VN writing, they should really work on making all the story and plot segments more accessible for people who would want a re-read(or need to re-read because they didn't have the time to the first time through). HI3 is patchworked enough as it is at this point so an actual renewal would be really nice. Speaking of VNs and the like, I hope they can make good use of the Dreamseeker for all the metafiction elements that they seem to like doing. A remake of the APHO2 co-op event for part 2 might be nice. Also if they're gonna be dropping three new weapon types on us, at least bring the greatsword back to life in the future.
About the farming stigmata, they announced that the part 2 stigmatas will be more less than part 1's stigmatas, and I saw from a image one stigmata costs about 600 Ether fuels and 1 cube thingy that has a lot of options or choices to exchange it from shop but I do really hope they lessen the absurd amount of ether fuels to craft a single part 1 stigmatas.
1 G4 took me 3 months, which is 3 patches. Luckily i only to farm 2 since i have 1 from an off rate gacha and dear god the work pays off. Now that i have an full set ellie, shes will only my Physical DPS (except i use DPS HoRB when i feel lazy)
i think they need to remove all the different shops, or keep it very little. the things you can buy at shops could be directly dropped from the gamemodes. and also having less different matirials or currency would be very good. they could reduce the materials to coins, crystals, stigmata material, character upgrade material and weapon material. i hate the material mess in this game
Honestly i think I am done after part 1 simply because the story i wanted to see has ended. Honkai impact is a very time consuming gacha with so much to do and I already play 2 other gachas so feel like now is the time to say goodbye.
what i like that pgr did better than honkai is the crystal from competitive mode is tied to the weekly task so no matter if you are in red lotus or agony 1 you can still get enough crystals
i agree with all the points. i mostly play genshin and hsr. i really see the potential on hi3rd i wish more people knew about this game but theres alot of issues. i really hope hoyoverse starts improving hi3rd more . the grinding in hi3rd made me quit the game multiple times also i hope they add something like memory of chaos / spiral abbys ( i know the abbys exist but its very meh for me) i want like stages where u have to 3 star to get all the rewards .
Abyss is ok for me. Strangely enough, besides the leaderboards, I prefer the HI3 approach for it over Genshin and HSR. Part 2 has something similar to the Memory of Chaos called Sea of Mirage. It's something you can do in the Part 2 Zones and you have multiple stages with star ratings based on your performance + you get crystals for clearing it. Unfortunately, it's a one and done thing and it doesn't reset. But I saw in the 7.4 Beta that they will add more levels next patch.
@@HomuLabs i also dislike the leaderboard system i think if it would be gone i would have more fun playing abbys. as a person who doesnt play much hi3rd due time its hard to keep up with abbys. i am keep stuck with the 180 crystals rewards and i am tired of grinding stigmata ( didnt farm sience months) . besides that i really love the part 2 system with the spiral abbys like floors i hope they will keep updating it every patch!
I know they already struggle translating it to english, but many of my friends don't give the game a chance because it isn't translated to spanish like the other hoyo games are.
I agree on half of these specially the localization one, please pay the team better and hire people mihoyo, but there are some i dont mind such as the males thing like i want playable males like Kevin, Welt and Otto ofc lol, but dont mind if we dont get them, or starting people in part 2 which technically would be possible but yeah its fine both ways for new players imo cuz sure ch1 isnt the biggest hook but i doubt ch1 of part 2 would be the biggest hook either like most gacha to truely appreciate them u have to play for a bit like give it a week. There are 2 points that i extremelly disagree on and arguablly the biggest 2 cuz they change the core of the game story and gameplay wise. The story telling and writing style, ik its a unique style that alot of people find hard to get into, but thats their choice of writing, its what makes this story stand out and not be generic and created some of the best plot lines, i am not saying all arcs should be like the moon arc or otto arc filled with philosophical and scientific analogies and terminolgies, but still in part 1, we have stuff like Arc City arc, Nagazora arc and Elysian Realm arc which were easier to digest while still being great, but arcs like Otto and Moon arc are still a must from time to time to keep their unique style of writing and world building, so i would say we have a good balance of them already and no need to streamline the writing and removing that uniqueness for all the upcoming story parts. p.s keep some the visual novel aspec5s its a part of that style. tldr; please read the story with more than 2 brain cells on and it becomes easy to understand(dont get offended its a joke) The leaderboards as they keep the game competitive and fresh and it aint as much of a whale system as people think as a person who played the game for 6 years and spent money like 4 times (3 of them for outfits ik stupid choice lol), i can keep up with "meta" pretty easily and rank pretty highly and retain Redlotus abyss even without full newer valks or anything, a change that can be done is putting more materials rewards for stuff like Redlotus and Agony make all of it give 500 xtals just gives u more materials for higher tiers and keep Nirvana giving 520 and even more materials which literally almost a useless difference but still enough for the tryhard or whale to compete for something, leaderboards are an absolute must imo it pushes the playerbase to innovate on new combos and have fun with new bosses which helps keep the game fresh, even for new players wanting to be higher in their bracket they will have fun learning combos and boss paterns, without it people are less likely to optimize combos for literal seconds difference, cuz whats the point if there is no leaderboard or rewards for it. tldr; keep the leaderboard maybe divide the crystal rewards a bit better between tiers in abyss and just git gud and learn to play the game please cuz i have seen some whales who suck lol, trust me as f2p u can beat them by out skilling them. overall as homu said would like to see some of these changes but regardless still hyped to see what they do for part 2.
You're the only comment that had any sense to it. You're right on the money. HI3 isn't a P2W as they claim. Brand new players SHOULD NOT expect to come into the game thinking they are placing top of the ladder. I have only been playing for 2 years (because I used to hate subbed anime/ games. Now I only hate subbed anime) and only started doing good about a year in once I understood the game. The story is phenomenal, I do find myself wishing it was dubbed so I didn't have to read for 12 hours straight but the localization is pretty damn good and I am hooked into the lore. I'm not sure why people have a hard time understanding. I feel HOMU was a little unfair because a few typos or mistakes doesn't detract from the story or the immersion. Unless it's because English isn't his first language and is harder for him to understand? Anyways, I just wanted to thank you for your comment because it made me sense than Homu and 98% if these comments who are shooting off unrealistic ideas.
@@HansDester tbf to homu, he didnt say the localization makes the story horrible, its just not a good look to make typos in general and u can feel the over worked and under staffed localization team working hard to keep up with all this text, mihoyo should absolutely hire more people on that team to help the quality. and to everyone else that commented here or in the community in general, most of them are just wanting the game to be better for everyone and complaining and giving feedback is always good to help maintain the quality thats why people whould always do the surveys and voice their opinion in a good way there, granted there are some people who complain for the sake of complaining but those exist in all communities lol, just let them be, wouldnt change the opinion of the people who enjoy the game.
@@HansDesterI think the reason homu is a bit tough on the localisation is that he’s very invested in the lore. For example, one thing he and other lore enthusiasts has brought up is the usage of “universe” instead of “world”. For the absolute majority of players this is merely semantics and doesn’t affect the story in any meaningful way. Like Himeko’s sacrifice isn’t any more or less emotional and Kiana’s subsequent depression doesn’t feel more or less real after knowing that the story takes place in a world inside a universe inside a multiverse as opposed to just a universe inside of a multiverse. But for someone who tries to understand the cosmology and make theories about it, it would make a difference, especially when discussing those theories with other people. Agree with the competitive part though. I can see how some people would feel stressed out by a leaderboard and I would agree if there was a large difference in rewards between the tiers. But as it is now the difference between rl (which experienced F2Ps should be able to retain) and nirvana (which is a bit more competitive) is 20 crystals. And as a F2P who’s been playing for almost 3 years and is bouncing between rl and nirvana I’m not exactly panicking about my crystal income when I relegate to rl for a couple cycles. Powercreep also arguably makes it easier for newer players to catch up as they can focus on getting new characters. But I guess this is very individual and not everyone can possibly agree.
One qol that i really wanted in honkai 3rd. Pls make like stigma wish system for weapon cuz i too tired to gacha non rate up weapon and cant do much about it aside exchange it for torus and blue reso....also return aug core system along add several old character in ely realm...
I wish they would translate the game to other laguages like they did with genshin and star rail. I can understand english, but it's not my mother language and a lot of people from my country that play genshin and star rail would like to try honkai but because there is no translation to our language, they don't even gave the game a chance
agreed on most part BUT the abyss leaderboards being removed why? because both F2P and whales has their needs i don't really want a stage above my current gear power to be locking my crystals and i'd bet some whales would get bored if the difficulty is reduced to accommodate F2Ps see... this is the genshin problem with abyss and i dread them being brought over to HI3... even i feel the pain in HSR since i don't play it much.... the abyss being separated into tiers and levels is perfectly fine cause the reward gap isn't really significant and both F2P and whales can get a challenge appropriate with their gear power and leaderboards can actually teach some new players for what team is good on what weather as well and it gives a sense of community because seeing other people tackle the abyss at the same room as you makes you feel that you are not alone doing the game mode and it helps keeping the mode feels busy edit : also no english dub please.... they butcher the japanese character archetype and make them a whole other person entirely kuudere especially and bratty personality is just not implementable in english and many more.... also the english dub never got cute and funny characters right and ends up having them sound like an old lady trying to speak baby so no... no eng dub in hi3 for god sake
Yea remove Abyss or MA leaderboard doesn't help anything In fact like you said it more benefit to new players if keep it. It help player copy team and build LMAO
I wouldn't say that I am excited but I do welcome Part 2, meaning that I am fine with the story taking another direction and focusing on other characters. Kiana is fine at the Moon, being busy eating junk food! Kiana is fine at the Moon, being busy eating junk food! That's so funny but I guess that it is something that maybe we all would do. I don't know how many activities she has at the Moon and how lonely she feels. Perhaps sometimes she play online games with Bronya. They mentioned some Honkai Battle Royale game. It would be funny if that game is for the whole prople on Earth (game wise) and Kiana, Mei, Bronya and others are sort of idol characters in that game. If that so, then it is funny that Kiana and Bronya play their own characters in that game. Many say that "Second Parts" are never good. It is silly to judge by that expression or just pre-judge without even experiencing the game's story. I think that it is good that they expand their story, even if it gets further complicated.
The self insert is what's gonna hold it back big time. It's such a massive downgrade to go from actual characters to a self insert and they make the stories suffer. Especially with how Hoyo sucks at them
You have some good suggestions. I do think that since they're removing the Co-op, they should replace it with something else. Maybe a version where we borrow other players' characters instead of having to wait for them to queue up, sort of like _HSR_ 's support system? And it'd be fun to have raids, even if teams were limited to 5 or 6 members due to... graphical limitations. An English dub would surely catapult _HI3_ 's popularity closer to where it deserves to be. I know for a fact that many people who would have tried it decided not to because they don't want to be reading subtitles. Well, now Mihoyo has a whole bunch of English voice actors for versions of many characters thanks to _HSR_ 's English dub -- and voice actors have an hourly salary, so asking them to sit down to record for new content, and then old content, should be pretty inexpensive, relatively-speaking. And would help to make _HI3_ as popular as it is on the SEA server. Maybe. At the same time, Mihoyo could review old content, especially the start, to bring up the quality to more modern levels. Small steps can have a big impact, too. They don't need to do everything at once. They could even do it for the Version 8 update if they wanted to. As long as players knew it was coming, they could anticipate it like the release of _ZZZ_ . New players coming to _HI3_ always ask where the tutorials are for older characters. Or most of them: Why is there no tutorial for Azure Empyrea, but there is one for Yamabuki Armour? Mihoyo could go back and create tutorials for each battlesuit, excluding the Starter Trio because that is included in the game's starting tutorial, and also because only the most daring of whales use the Starter Trio past that point -- with top gacha gear. Teaching players how to use each battlesuit would help to sell them based on a liked playstyle, especially outside the meta, which would mean more money for Mihoyo, and more fun for players.
While i do agree with most of the points. EN dub is not one of them, not because i don't want the game to become popular as HSR but because in the past, EN dubs in mihoyo games has been... lacking/weird imo. If they would find good VAs for the characters then i'm all in but with how they choose EN VAs in the past, i'm not quite sure Also i'm kind of excited for part 2, especially for the story! I wish that this game though would make some sort of mode where you can play older valks/battlesuits without the restriction of Elysian Realm "Weather" and i wish they would add more old battlesuis in ER again (i'm especially waiting KMB kiana and LE mei there)
I don't think leaderboards should be gone cause it does givr an insensitive for players to become better at the game but having the rewards be accounted only for participation is a good idea that a competitor of HI3rd, Punishing Gray Raven from Kuro is already doing and I think it's the perfect solution for players who don't care about rankings and then ones like me who want to show off a bit. Seeing them making stigmatas farmable like PGR has farmable Memories which are the equivalent of the stigs and basically going the same route with the weapons by adding ascension points to them if you feed them dups I can expect them doing more stuff similar to that game. Lastly I will agree with coop. I wish they did something more rather than jusy remove it but here's hoping they will surprise us in the future
I'm with you, brother! An excellently made Stylish Action ACG (anime comic game, an alternative label for visual novel) deserves that, much like with Fate/Grand Order. The dev team should follow what Kuro Games did with Punishing Gray Raven a few years after its release, which they gave the game an official EN dub. I would suggest that a good voice director, who is not woke by the way, be the one to helm the project, bonus if he or she knows the game's characters, story, and lore well and is playing it as well as following lore channels and watched all HI3-related content such as this. Since we can now download and delete voice resources, it will be easy to manage the game even in "potato" phones.
11:17 exactly!!! I thought it was just my phone so I upgraded but it still run like shit. it's playable now but it still needs work. I'm rocking a snapdragon 7+ gen 2, it's already an impressive chipset but somehow framerate still drops on those open areas.
part 1 really deserves some fixes because i left the game entirely for around 1 year but came back after hearing some stuff about the story (and i got interested in HI3 cosmology for my videos as well) edit: yes totally agreed with english dub part because i as someone that hates reading too much that was a big reason to why i just couldnt enjoy the game early on
yeah ngl when I played through the main story I sometimes felt like I need to be an expert in philosophy and science to understand what tf the characters are trying to explain sometimes
I always thought that maybe they'd Playable male Mostly because they did saving when to connect apho in the main story at some point but they didn't say when So I always thought it would be either part 2.5 or part 3 something But who knows at that point? but I have also always wanted playable males but anyway I'm just happy to play The Game. And if they have playable male characters at some point that will be a bonus But i'm not fussy over it I also wish about some of the other points in this video, but this comment is already to long Edit: I forgot to add this the point I wanted to make was that easier grind for outfit cards the blue ones are fine but it seems like it takes forever to grind the pink ones not everybody has the money to buy the big chips to get them an even with outfit supplies and stuff you still need crystals I just feel like there should be a way to grind for them through events or something similar IDK it's just a point I wanted to make
When it comes to the people that are worried that the original cast are going to be discarded, I doubt that's the case - we know from Part 2's prologue that Kiana becomes the teacher of Helia and Coralie (Plus, it'll likely show Mei and Bronya's movements as it gets nearer to APHO). That aside, there are some changes which they COULD make: 1. English dub - it'd be interesting to see how the characters are portrayed with their Impact 3rd personalities, since Bronya, Himeko, Cocolia, Welt, Bronie and Bronya all have English VA's due to being in Star Rail 2. More dorm functions - Maybe give the captain a model of his own, and give new ways to build bonding in that way - i.e. games? (Not too sure on that one, tbh) 3. Actually give the Dreamseeker a personality, so they feel more like a normal character (Somewhat on the scale of Adam if they don't want to go the full mile) than a self-insert 4. Keep the animated shorts like they did in Part 1 - this is what made the game feel better. I mean, I doubt Himeko VS Herrscher of Void (AKA Final Lesson)would've worked as well if they did it via gameplay Finally, I WOULD say that the game would benefit from a console release - but at the same time, would it?
want i want for future of the game: remove foundry and exchange house, merge them into one, make foundry mat and 2 Resonancincree into 1, make price to buy them cheaper make more PRI for older characters (miko sakura lol) add more old characters to ER, remove time challenge bonus on double floor make it easier and faster to farm stigmata make it easier to farm valk frag make sp valk off rate of future banner
I think an English dub for the second part only could be explained as we are on a new planet and the language is different. I would love to have HI3 on PlayStation. I play HSR and Genshin on PS5.
Great video!!! I agree with a lot of your points especially the playable males one bcz it just feels a bit like a waste to have so many awesome male charas and not make them playable but whatever. One thing i reeeeeally would like them to do is update the old chapters from the story to the quality that we have right now like the dialogue box, 3d models without the vn type of storytelling, (well more like mixed not removed), etc and it would be great if they also give a bit of a rework to the older battlesuits so there's not a gigantic difference in quality between the new and old (like with the ui), and i would also like to see in part 2 more enemy variety bcz there's always like ONLY 3-5 enemies of the same type (the paradise wardens for example), and i hope they add A LOT of new osts (like in genshin or hsr) bcz i LOVE honkai's music. But aside from all that i'm really excited for part 2 and all the things in it, i know the characters, osts, areas, bosses, etc are all going to be great so i can't wait to play!!!!😊😊😊
These are wishful hope for the game indeed. While I can see your point of wanting English Dub, I personally WANT it to stay how it is. Call me gatekeeper or satan, but I really don't find hsr and gi fandom as something I'm envious of from them. As for the playable male characters, as much as I want it more than any single soul in hi3 fandom it becoming a reality might shatter the game's fanbase. The male collaborators might be a way, and they maybe could put another male character (s) that is entirely playable just like Adam for APHO3 not a support like Lyle. But having them being featured as limited characters who needs to be pulled via gacha will turn the community inside out because the game was distributed around with the trait of it being all girls game. That is unfortunate of course, but I'm happy that they saw the potential of male characters in the game.. like that CN survey, whole false-advertising youtube ad that features Otto, Kevin, and Welt, Kevin being playable in some stages... I wish they make them playable one day when they gathered enough mass in their balls, but until then.. as long as the game stays up, I'll take what I can get.
I apologize for the quality of the footage during the more intense fighting scene. For some reason, my recording software just breaks when a lot of particles and effects are thrown on the screen at the same time.
What do you wish to see added in Part 2?
Edit: I want to add this because I don't want people to misinterpret it. When I talked about the story, I didn't mean that I wanted to change the way they write stories. I love Honkai because of the unique way it tells the story and focuses on the characters. But, I would like for them to be a little more mindful when it comes to the pacing, and not overuse the scientific jargon too much in a single chapter. I would like to see Honkai return to the Chapters 16 - 25 Era. I think that's when they nailed the best of both worlds.
I wish to not lose the ability to play with keyboard only. From Genshin/HSR we know they can just disable remapping attacks from left/right mouse buttons and FORCE us to play with mouse. I am not doing this! If they will - I'll use remapping software instead. But that will be another thing to hate about part 2 aside from terrible new UI experience which just adds a lot of additional clicks on valk/team screens.
I really wish that they would keep the old health bars and stuff. The combat buttons look confusing to use. I hope the combat buttons are something like apho 2 with only 5 usable buttons that are easy to understand and not just randomly cluttered at the bottom right.
Yeeees bro, we need english dub to attract new players and male characters like in Star Rail and Genshin it should be pretty obvious to understand. Also I agree about lost coop opportunities, we need more game modes to engage with the community a little bit. And armada/dorm need improvement too. They could add Fall guys type minigames but it would require keeping servers intact which could be unprofitable yeah.
I know that they added the option to play with the mouse. I'm not sure if they completely removed the option to play keyboard only. I hope not! I'm using a controller anyway, but I know many people who prefer to play keyboard only.
@@HomuLabs yes, you get it! That's exactly what I'm saying: more options is good, less options or replacing one with another not letting you to choose is bad.
It needs to return to ER part 3 kind of story telling. The conversations are fun, concise, and are of the right amount of exposition. And in between is fun gameplay.
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This is absolutely wishful thinking but I rlly hope augment cores make a return. Even if it’s just for old S Ranks, Fervent Tempo and Twilight Paladin’s releases were so hype for me when they dropped and I rlly miss not having to pull every patch
yea agree here used to be able not stress about keeping up
I think they already replaced that Augment feature with Divine Keys, and the asterite now goes to SP valks
yeah, some old valk like Durandal Valkyrie Gloria & Raven Midnight Absinthe deserve augment upgrade since their stigmata is more useful than the Valkyrie itself.😅
Well, Delta was an event character with no connection to main story, so it's possible that we see old-new characters in the events with this method.
Aside from everything that you mentioned, I'll add the sensei-cadet system. Since co op will be removed, hopefully they'll update it
Personally, I wish they'd revamp the dorm system. The chibis are really cute but the things you can do in dorm are very limited. The crafting system for dorm furniture is archaic to say the least, and aside from a few interactions between certain characters there really isn't any reason to decorate or even visit the dorm. Armada system needs a revamp as well, but it's such a marginal feature i doubt they'll consider it.
Honestly, i'm thinking merging dorm with Armada. Imagine if we can visit our Armada headquarter with our chibi valk and chatting or playing some minigames
I just started playing the prologue with Helia and Coralie visiting Kiana and I already really like them. The mentor moments with them and the OG's are actually really nice.
Helia is currently my fav so far and I'm really looking forward to seeing how the others on Mars turn out and their dynamics and interactions with the 2 girls.
One of the things I'm most excited for in Part 2 is getting some new vocal themes! With a new cast they can't keep relying on the same tracks, e.g Sennen no Hane playing all the time to represent Fu Hua. Very interested to hear some new singers for the new characters :)
Im just happy that HI is getting this much investment from hoyo. Its my favourite gacha game and unfortunately it doesnt make much money compared to Genshin and HSR. I was so happy to hear that HI was a complete passion project from hoyo, their love child basically. Getting a new engine, updating so much requires a lot of dedication and especially costs. For them to improve upon this game just because they like it makes me so happy. I understand that many people dont like seeing new characters and 'throwing away all the part 1 characters', we should all know that they wont just completely throw away all the part 1 cast we love. Atleast give these new characters a chance. ER was the same when it released and some of the characters are fan favourites now. Personally, I'll happily continue my journey through part 2.
the prologue for part 2 was some of the most fun story we had for a long time, Helia and Corolie were very likable. Hopefully part 2 keeps the pace.
huh why do ppl dislike part 2. imo i think part 2 will end up being good
Gameplay will be good for sure, but that's the only part I'm actually excited about. Story - no info, but might be good as well, because I did not enjoy HI3 story starting from HoT arc unlike Genshin whish was only getting better with Sumeru (groundhog day, Jeht series) and Fontaine (pretty much all of it) and HSR was not bad with more humor and overall less seriouseness (like WTH was that Argenti quest? :D).
people just hate change, they cant accept new characters or story or some even gameplay, imo just dont pay attention form ur own thoughts, for me i loved everything about part 1 as whole and the first 6 years of hi3, cant wait for the next 6 years and next part of the story hopefully it keep up the quality of the part 1 story
@@user-kf7oq6uw8fi think you type of people who don't really like heavy story my friend
Mostly because the game is evolving away from the 'old honkai' which makes part 2 feel too disconnected
It feels like it should be a whole new game but its overhauling part 1 instead
@@MbahtedjoOfficialI dont undestand people that need certain chapter or other event happening in the story to get into the story or the game itself, I always loved Honkai even from the start, yeah you can say it was a bit rushed and unpolished in some parts but that is the problem these types of game has, having to provide something in a short amount of time, Honkai always try to experiment and sometimes work and sometimes not, but well I undestand that much people isnt acustomed to VN type of presentation
Nice suggestion on the grinding on stigmata part because some stigmata sets can only be obtained by gacha or 1 to 2 months of grinding in pain
as a side note, they are DEFINITELY adding males as collaborators rather than as playable/controllable units, seeing from the dreamseeker being able to change genders and they're collaborators. (collaborators is basically part 2 elfs and based off the lyle moon ring system)
yeah, people complaining about having male playable characters suck, and 99% of the chance they are people with their own solar systems who call every fictional women character a waify regardless of age and physical attributes :(
I just want playable male characters (Kalpass is such a smash)
@@Gaeshiete i dont get how anybody can think male characters are a bad thing. Only females in a stroy makes it kinda boring, the diversity males bring would be a nice addition to the game
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diversity is key, add male characters. Su and Kevin were cool
also add different skintones and colourtones so less people complain and also cuz skn diversity also helsp the cast look bigger and more fleshed out (idrc tbh, im just bored of the all white and pale battlesuits, add the darker colours back)
Nice vid! Also very hidden chibi prom at 12:21
Sneaky detail right there
FOR THE HORDEE!!
12:10 honkai’s story always had males, they should be playable. It was never supposed to be something taboo to think, it’s ridiculous how many get mad at that take.
Nah... no playable male characters please. Leave that for hsr and gi
@@Zora72954 You want the game to be full of women and you be the only male or what? What’s wrong with having male characters?
@@Zora72954 Whats wrong with male characters?
Atleast have some valid justification!
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Im betting these players just want to feel special in HI3rd, and make it their own harem with only female playable character..little do they know that pretty much all HI3rd characters are lesbian (im fine with ships and simping, but to the point where you dont want male playable characters? atp just go play an actual low quality waifu Gacha game)
@@Gaeshiete i agree. It’s a game almost full of lesbians so they wouldn’t even give a fuck about the male players anyway, besides “feeling special” or hating men, i don’t see another possibility. Someone once said that “it would feel weird” and that was the best justification that user could give.
I just want the main character to not be a simple mute self insert.
Just watch new Seradine PV MC really can talk not like another self insert character
She does talk.
like i said since the beginning, she is not a self-insert muted mc. It’s just a character like anyone else.
Same... It's literally my only concern of part 2. There's just no way for me to get invested in a generic, self insert, cardboard cutout of a character.
Only way for them to save it is if the MC is actually not part of the story, but thats probably not going to happen...
@@Valbert94 “only way to save it”? lol. Here’s an alternative way: the character not being a a brainless self-insert. It literally isn’t, everyone assumes that simply because there’s a male version. She can talk and has a personality like normal characters. Even HSR MC that doesn’t talk much is not a true self-insert since the dialogue options showcase her sassy and little dumb personality, same with ZZZ MCs, the only self-insert in hoyo is Traveler.
With how part 1.5 went - I'm actually still very excited for part 2.
I was worried 1.5 would be filler - it was anything but that imo (especially the characters).
I would like part 2 to have more coop minigame events - I loved the chibi team fighter mode and fall guys-like (they've shown they're clever with using existing resources)
I would like if they used the affection system to show us some cut scene what happend in the time skip. Like if we have a Sushang and Susannah or a Misteln and a Prometheus with maxed out affection we get a short scene what they did in the mean time.
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The issue is Mihoyo is still undervaluing an EN version of this game despite the success of Genshin and StarRail. This game would also go over well (at least the parts of the story that don't require a PhD in theoretical physics) with English speaking players if it had a full dub and consistent text
I personally think that they should at least remaster the part one, especially the older chapters. Im talking about map remakes with better graphics and maybe even add some new level mechanics to some of them.
Agree with everything, i just want for them to expand dorms... We've had the same stuff for ages now... Only adding chibi valks... Also a claim all and dispatch again for expedition and errands, just like genshin.
Love this type of video, and would definitely like to see more like this in the future! I agree with all of your suggestions, particularly allowing new players to start in Part 2 and the English dub (at least starting from Part 2, I think that'll be the easiest way for them to justify that from a business point of view)
I also wouldn't mind future videos where you share what you thoughts on a particular story arc, a little like what you talk about in your streams. Not in terms of explaining the lore, but what aspects and parts of a particular story arc you liked and thought they wrote well, what could be better etc.
Love all your videos and hard work!
I agree with most of the points you mentioned. When I played Star rail, I noticed just how easy it was to do everything. It was all well optimised and nothing was wasteful.
I would add that the HI3 Gacha system could see improvements. I like the gacha system but the fact that different banners don't share a pity means that I shouldn't use foca supply unless I can guarantee the equipment. And there are too many banner types.
Homu labs, I love your videos. I always get excited when you post one because I know that you love honkai impact just as much as I do! This video tackled some issues in the game that some people refuse to admit. I think it was a great idea to outline some weaknesses of honkai impact even though some people may disagree. I wish you the best in your future and I will continue watching your videos!
9:42 a RUclipsr named Nemu Benzene actually did this in SSS FGO, and not just Kallen, but with almost all Valks that's outdated to be honest. Sadly Nemu doesn't have 4/4 HoRb or 4/4 Kira so the scores are not impressive. Although it's still good considering the valks are VERY OLD.
Nemu is the best HI3rd content creator, you cant change my mind lol (non-related HI3rd content creator specifically, she's funny af)
12:00 a kevin battlesuit would be sick as hell fight me
I love the content of you just talking about the state of the game! HI3 feels in a lot of ways very underrepresented in the content creator space, so it's nice to just hear other people's thoughts!
* upgrade and expand dorm (make one for all like 2-3 years ago with global weakly/monthly rewards)
* Make armada smaller (30 or so) and make leaderboard for them - replace with current player only leaderboard (Make a boss for armada to enjoy but let rewards be atleast 80-90% with 10-20 active f2p people to get)
* Make world boss so everyone can enjoy the rewards (maybe keep ladder cuz who cares.. free rewards and for competitive for something to do)
Basically make it fun for compatitive and let f2p also get most of rewards - compatitive people will have fun and f2p will cheer for them :).
IMO. Idk the consequence of this but i think its win-win.
(also maybe colaborators with both female and male forms - we have bubble worlds :D)
2 is an owful idea. As if being gear/valk dependent wasn't enough now you need a well geared entire armada as well? Yay, let's spread even more toxicity!
I tried to soften the blow with addition that only 10ish active players would be needed to get all (or 90%) rewards (like about first reward for sim battle)... guess just update simbattle. i was thinking along the lines like minigames not necesserally with own valks (yeah i cant spell) - like the mode that will replace coop or event. Boss was unthoughtful and i can see it being bad.
However if you think its gonna breed toxicity then i agree that it is bad idea. @@user-kf7oq6uw8f
@@user-kf7oq6uw8f HI3rd is only gonna get more competietive, my F2P Ass will not keep up 😭😭
glad I was not the only one who raised eyebrows to the level 30 requirement for new players to play part 2
My Wishlist:
1. Part 1 Chapter Area, Character, & Enemy Visual Overhaul (like how Part 2 looks)
2. Playable Males (Kevin, Su, Otto, Welt, Kalpas, Kosma, Siegfried, etc.) some of the best characters in the game are males, please!!!!
3. More (Challenging) Endgame Content // That's doable with older characters for more team comp variety
4. Replayable Open-World Chapters (and Elysian Realm) e.g. Kolosten, Elysium Everlasting, New Atra, etc.
5. Incorporate Manga & VN into Part 1 Story
6. Full PlayStation Controller Support // I hate using Mouse Cursor for UI
Love the video concept, keep these up!
Im fully agree especially with the first point. Since ch1 is still relevant for the story we need it and all the stuff associated with updated atleast visually. I even see some chapters being merged into one open world location.
"Hater is gonna hate"
I personally hype for part 2
Edit: I hope the story improve in part 2. After Elysium Everlasting, it just not for me man
With a self insert it won't be able to improve... it will be as bad as GI and HSR
@@Zora72954 Genshin and HSR arent even bad, your just blind (Traveller does suck tbh, but Trailblazer has a very defined personality, they're basically trolls)
(and from waht we've seen in the trailer, HI3rd "self-insert" actually have personalities and voicelines, the only thing about them is the fact you can choose a gender)
I too am excited for part 2!
I want rework of universal mirage too
but mostly, an alternative way to get weapons besides praying for it to appear in the gacha
i agree on some your points while others are not my concern
1- farming for stigmata set especially g2 and g3 takes almost a year, especially that we have 6 invitation tickets and that thing that double the rewards, adding to it g1 cost 700 fuel to craft which is not easy to get as well
2- optimization for open world is a most its not like my phone is new or something but it struggle when i go to open world content while it can handle other content fairly good
3- changing achievement system is welcomed
4- now i understand why am not being promoted in the abyss even though am doing good enough like i get around 600 points in last stage so yeah i hope they don't make promotion according to leaderboard
I hadn't even considered an achievements system. It could be quite fun. Also, do people know about the badges for beating every Flamechaser ~40 times?
I remain optimistic about the story and Hua's chapter strengthened my faith. I am hoping we get a core cast with multiple battlesuits, and real character development. Meeting future playable characters well before they release would be great too.
I do disagree with the reduction of the competitive aspect. It's a great feeling when you beat someone with better gear or the latest valk, even though the reward difference can be zero to small. But they've already shown that they are moving away from it with fixed score rewards in ER and SSS MA. They could actually use the virtual trophy system too and maybe promote more people in RL than demote.
This whole thing is going to change a lot though. The gacha changes will compress the difference between spenders and F2P and make it slightly more skill based.
Abyss has also become a lot more varied due to our large roster of characters. I think we're almost at the point where you could pull for who you want and keep a good placement.
Ngl the only reason why I'm still playing HI3 is because of the leader boards, especially when I see that I did better than someone who has better gear than me
Otherwise there's legitimately no challenge in the game at all, and being better means nothing
Chibi Prometheus at 1:21, next to Bronya, infront of project bunny's arm
But i know one thing will happen there gonna be tears that could make a grown man cry
i want more deppression arc 💀
HI3 basically goes 📈📉📈📉📈📉📈📉📈 nowadays
Playable men would be so cool! However, the thing I wanted the most is new users for old weapon types, especially for those old non-signature weapons to see some use. Like, only Durandal (and Asuka, but she isn't obtainable anymore) have lances, and than they created javelin users? Oh, come on!
Hey, regarding the crystal income from playing abyss. I have seen multiple people that play outdated valks/poorly equipped valks playing abyss and easily maintaining in agony 3. From that point of view i calculated the differences in crystal income between agony 3 and nirvana and per patch it was only about 4 pulls (1200 crystals) differnce. I surely understand the point from your perspective about not caring about competition and wanting the leaderboard to be removed just because of the 4 pulls difference between the ranks wouldnt really be good in my opinion.
I agree with so many things here. I really want some coop , I really want a more digestible story , I really want some playable men and O MY GOD PLEASE MAKE STIGMAS faster grind able.
It takes 1-2 months to make 1 stigma ;-; I also really hope it won’t be a Genshin number two (similar type ) game.
Otherwise I’m really excited for the new part. I so far find the characters really interesting and I can’t wait to meet them.
Ps: I LOVE your vids. I might not always comment but always watch. Your lore videos are literally a god send. Bonus: your voice is relaxing XD Keep up the good work
Playable Males + Eng Dub will be amazing COPIUM.
You have ask CN first for playable males
Man I love the valk design in 1:20. She looks insane. When will she release? But like putting leaks in for the most insane and op looking valk in a lore video. Idk if you can do it XD :3
I also kinda wish they update old stages and valkyries with the new tech, even if slowly. They don't even need fully change old valks or bring them to meta, just some buffs and adjusts would be amazing, like Umbral Rose applying bleed (or cause Bleed DMG), old elemental valkyries causing elementhal dmg instead psy and maybe SP regen/freeze time in ult, even with the same %, animations and being weak, that would make them more usable and fun, it would be good for new players tho
I actually want the old style of text box bac ..with every characters being given a color on the text they are speaking ..it adds so much distinction not only to the game but the characters as well ..also its much more easier to read than small tiny white text on a transparent gray bar
Old text box has problem that it limitting how much word can be display. You must have been playing on mobile instead of PC.
@@RaykinaBreaker yes ..if they are doing this just to please the pc players ...maybe its time to quit
@@linhmy7673 your reason to quit is soo childish😅
@@RaykinaBreaker why would you not want to quit when you cant enjoy playing a game anymore?
I love how most of your suggestions are realistic! Keep it up man
Man, i want this game to be in spanish so i dont have a massive headache trying to understand that shakesperean english 😭
At least your first language is also from romance group of languages, but I can feel you
i mostly agree with this video, even as a mostly f2p player imo leaderboards system is already fine as it is and its one of my reason to still play this game. Without the leaderboards it would just be like a normal weekly gamemode that you just complete it then never touch it again until the next reset. The only thing that i would change is the reward and make it the same at all tiers.
Homulab just suggesting that the whole reward isn't been decided based on player score rank but through finishing all 4 stage. He never said all tier in abyss must get the same quantity of reward. If all tier in abyss get the same quantity reward, there's no reason to competing rank in the first place. Since a most captain rather stay at the lowest tier like Sinful or Agony 1.
I agree with you on a lot of points *especially on how lengthy some of the dialogue has been in recent chapters,* they really need to shorten it a bit at some times in the story. And YES, MY FRIENDS WOULD LOVE A CONSOLE RELEASE!
hopefully Part 2 manages to deliver really well on launch, *but what I'm REALLY hoping for at some point is a permanent playable Kevin Kaslana.* (I'm high on hopium IK but I f-ing need Kevin 😂)
I am excited for part 2, but unfortunately 1 thing that i expected seems like didn't happen in part 2, and that is the MC, appearing the male version of MC, i thought we finally got another male characters that will be playable just like Adam, we can use in combat, but turns out MC is just a support (collaborator) character in combat like Lyle in APHO 2 🗿🗿
when i first heard about part 2 in august/october i hated the idea a LOT because it seemed like theyre were just milking the game and i also HATE self-insert MCs (especially since honkai was the only hyv game to not have one) BUT now that part 2 is out, i actually don't mind it? i like it. i like the animations and scenes and how that its not a visual novel game anymore, and i also like how the MC actually has consistent voicelines which makes them feel more like a character in the game.
I hope the part 2 mc isnt a mute mc, even partially. I want them to voice all of their dialogues and please remove choices unless they are done for comedy like in star rail sometimes and make them VOICED, thats one of the things i find lacking in star rail story tbh, and i hope the story continues to remain character driven like honkai impact always has been and not go the mostly world driven route like GI or HSR
Bet if they add Aloy on HI3 too she will be a meta character for a while instead of a sad meme?
Doubt... Asuka was never meta. It depends if they could rerun her or not in the future. It's not a good idea to put a meta unit in a limited event that will never rerun.
@@HomuLabs Asuka wasn't, but Fischl was.
@@HomuLabs To be honest, I forgot about Asuka. I wasn't able to play during the collab due to various reasons and I kind off erased the entire event from my memory.
Because Fischl is mihoyo character @@user-kf7oq6uw8f
12:20 I see you there.
Meh just for first info update but when more time come. More info from Beta yeah everyone excited also for everyone who afraid about silence self don't worry in new PV about Seradine our MC really have so much dialog like another character
I would like the possibility to speed run events. Unfortunately the events have some type of stamina that doesn't allow you to complete the events unless you play all the days. In Genshin and Star Rails you can speed run the events in the last day, you cannot do that in Honkai Impact.
I believe its depending on the type event. I mean HI3rd event always has a type of event that we need to enhance something or ability to help player to pass some high challenge. And so they limited the grind for enhancement material stage at least 2 times a day.
HSR event is 100% rely on your current original character stat, that's why you can just brush through event on last day without even care to learn about the rule of event.
I am a big story enjoyer and read all the mangas and played all the VNs so I am not afraid of reading but I still found my engagement with the story declined as the chapter length ballooned. Sometimes constraints foster creativity and I feel like being limited to such short chapter runtimes really pushed the writers to create a concise and punchy narrative. When I watch people play through the early chapters I notice the majority of the dialogue is memorable and the story beats are almost all important. The post open-world style chapters tend to just waffle a lot with bloated dialogue that doesn't have the same impact and the plot sort of meanders.
I'm going to let them cook in part 2 and give it a fair shot because I've enjoyed all of Hoyo's games but I am definitely slightly concerned that the growing focus on open world is going to result in a watered down experience that fails to be open world enough to capture what makes Genshin special while sacrificing what made HI3 special in the process.
I'm super glad co-op is going away and I don't want it back in any form. I don't play these games for a multiplayer experience and they aren't well suited to co-op anyway since playing only one valk basically disables the core mechanic of the game.
I actually like the leaderboards even though I am not a whale. Though I do not disagree with you that most f2p/budget players probably don't like it. For me the competitive scoring and having to fight to try and retain Nirvana as much as possible without spending a ton of money makes me care about malding strats and improving my gameplay. It can get frustrating at times but it keeps me engaged and playing a lot more than Genshin and HSR quick one-and-done clears.
The main changes I want for part 2 is just a substantial reduction in daily and weekly chores. This game already has more than enough gameplay time in the competitive end game modes plus story and event content. We don't need boring weekly ER runs, mirage farm, co-op (or the solo style stuff that is replacing it fully in p2), open world tasks, event dailies, and on and on. Just bake the mats rewards into clearing abyss, memorial, and events. Let us send dorm expeditions to collect PRI mats instead of useless A-rank fragments, etc.
i pretty much agree completley, it's only that my F2P ass cant afford to make a lot of teams, especially ones that are fully geared, or have good gear (why is crafting so damn expensive for no reason at all!)
I wish the powercreep just diedm down, maybe just buff older units directly and maybe nerf newer units somehwat to create a smaller gap in power, and nerf bosses by a lot, making crafting cheaper
I had no idea part 2 was not available until you pass level 30, I can't imagine new players coming over to check it out being engaged in the old content for hours on end before they actually see the update, that seems like a bad idea for anyone who was sold on the new content
achieve captain level 30 actually isn't that long.
@@RaykinaBreaker might be true, I don't remember how quick leveling was at the start just how slow it gets towards the end
List of what I hope happen in Part 2:
- New Coop feature return in future version.
- Updating Armada & Chibi feature.
- Old valk Augment upgrade with Astral Ring support feature will be release.
- Abyss update: full Crystal reward wasn't set based on score rank except Floor tier & stage. (It will motivate lot of beginner captain to play Abyss even if they were not try to get high score)
What I hope to experience in Part 2 story.
- Story telling has both long writing VN vibe & has lot of adventuring at the same time.
- Doesn't have spin-off character story that was consider as non-canon to mainstory. (I don't like how Honkai Star Rail Character quest feels like never a part of their mainstory)
- I want every event, quest & side quest has significant impact to character development in the mainstory onward.
- I don't mind having a male playable or just a support. (They do pretty good job for Adam in APHO, that mean its possible)
My impression on Dreamseeker & Songque
- I like male Dreamseeker design more but I never consider him/her as main protagonist. I rather consider him/her as one of many important character that will help move the story.
- Songque design was like a proper Valkyrie but I like the idea where there's lot side character in HI3rd where they exist in story despite unplayable (exp: Tesla/Einstein/Sora/Schrodinger)
- I believe not all important character must have capability to battle on their own to be important to story.
ps: I really don't want HI3rd force a supposed to be a normal character to be playable like how every character in Honkai Star Rail even created a nonsense skill just to make them playable.
there are a lot of things that i agree and disagree with you
first thing first, as much as i don't like English Dub. IT IS A MUST HAVE, honestly ever since playing the other hoyoverse game, i noticed i know a lot more people that uses English dub than japanese when the game is anime like game. plus it also gives you a new perspective (i wanna hear how senti sounds like)
and then about the format of the game being a VN with a gameplay, it would be very difficult to revamp the whole format without making a hole in their wallet. though they should at least gives the early chapters more retouch (i know they did update some of the stages and removes unnecessary stages)
Coop being removed are truly sad but i don't really feel like i'll miss it, but i really do hope they actually revamp it while it's being removed, preferably not something similar to raids.
agreed with the localization and no further comment
as for the leaderboard, i think its best if they just removes the crystal reward that ties with the leaderboard but instead keep the rank of exalted to superlotus and make it still ties with the leaderboard.
as for playable male, honestly, if it brings more players. do it. more players more tears after all
as for console version i think it would be very difficult since PC and android version you have to download different client for which server you're gonna play, unless later they somehow make it 1 client for all region available
also MOUSE SUPPORT IS REAL ?!
one last thing that i actually want from Part 2
while it's not really tied to Part 2 story i would like a proper captainverse story all of em available outside the event
preferably retouched to remove the event-like gameplay of it (i don't even care if i don't get the crystal I WANNA SEE "THE DAY YOU VANISHED WITH THE STARS")
I think the success of FGO showed the industry how the meta can change for gacha writing and since there's likely a lot of VN fans on the staff they really wanted the next step. Can they reach enough of that kind of audience and maintain a similar balance is another question though. If they really want to emphasis that kind of VN writing, they should really work on making all the story and plot segments more accessible for people who would want a re-read(or need to re-read because they didn't have the time to the first time through). HI3 is patchworked enough as it is at this point so an actual renewal would be really nice.
Speaking of VNs and the like, I hope they can make good use of the Dreamseeker for all the metafiction elements that they seem to like doing.
A remake of the APHO2 co-op event for part 2 might be nice. Also if they're gonna be dropping three new weapon types on us, at least bring the greatsword back to life in the future.
Very hyped for part 2 and hope that the hoyo devs see this video
About the farming stigmata, they announced that the part 2 stigmatas will be more less than part 1's stigmatas, and I saw from a image one stigmata costs about 600 Ether fuels and 1 cube thingy that has a lot of options or choices to exchange it from shop but I do really hope they lessen the absurd amount of ether fuels to craft a single part 1 stigmatas.
1 G4 took me 3 months, which is 3 patches. Luckily i only to farm 2 since i have 1 from an off rate gacha and dear god the work pays off. Now that i have an full set ellie, shes will only my Physical DPS (except i use DPS HoRB when i feel lazy)
Wait isn't DPS HoRb is just superior to MPE in well... everything? All you needed for that is HoS, but we've just got her for free.
@@user-kf7oq6uw8f Eh, who cares, i like ellie. Even if shes underperform, why not lol
i think they need to remove all the different shops, or keep it very little. the things you can buy at shops could be directly dropped from the gamemodes. and also having less different matirials or currency would be very good. they could reduce the materials to coins, crystals, stigmata material, character upgrade material and weapon material. i hate the material mess in this game
Honestly i think I am done after part 1 simply because the story i wanted to see has ended. Honkai impact is a very time consuming gacha with so much to do and I already play 2 other gachas so feel like now is the time to say goodbye.
YESSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PLAYABLE MEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
what i like that pgr did better than honkai is the crystal from competitive mode is tied to the weekly task so no matter if you are in red lotus or agony 1 you can still get enough crystals
i agree with all the points. i mostly play genshin and hsr. i really see the potential on hi3rd i wish more people knew about this game but theres alot of issues. i really hope hoyoverse starts improving hi3rd more . the grinding in hi3rd made me quit the game multiple times also i hope they add something like memory of chaos / spiral abbys ( i know the abbys exist but its very meh for me) i want like stages where u have to 3 star to get all the rewards .
Abyss is ok for me. Strangely enough, besides the leaderboards, I prefer the HI3 approach for it over Genshin and HSR. Part 2 has something similar to the Memory of Chaos called Sea of Mirage. It's something you can do in the Part 2 Zones and you have multiple stages with star ratings based on your performance + you get crystals for clearing it. Unfortunately, it's a one and done thing and it doesn't reset. But I saw in the 7.4 Beta that they will add more levels next patch.
@@HomuLabs i also dislike the leaderboard system i think if it would be gone i would have more fun playing abbys. as a person who doesnt play much hi3rd due time its hard to keep up with abbys. i am keep stuck with the 180 crystals rewards and i am tired of grinding stigmata ( didnt farm sience months) . besides that i really love the part 2 system with the spiral abbys like floors i hope they will keep updating it every patch!
I know they already struggle translating it to english, but many of my friends don't give the game a chance because it isn't translated to spanish like the other hoyo games are.
I agree on half of these specially the localization one, please pay the team better and hire people mihoyo,
but there are some i dont mind such as the males thing like i want playable males like Kevin, Welt and Otto ofc lol, but dont mind if we dont get them,
or starting people in part 2 which technically would be possible but yeah its fine both ways for new players imo cuz sure ch1 isnt the biggest hook but i doubt ch1 of part 2 would be the biggest hook either like most gacha to truely appreciate them u have to play for a bit like give it a week.
There are 2 points that i extremelly disagree on and arguablly the biggest 2 cuz they change the core of the game story and gameplay wise.
The story telling and writing style, ik its a unique style that alot of people find hard to get into, but thats their choice of writing, its what makes this story stand out and not be generic and created some of the best plot lines, i am not saying all arcs should be like the moon arc or otto arc filled with philosophical and scientific analogies and terminolgies, but still in part 1, we have stuff like Arc City arc, Nagazora arc and Elysian Realm arc which were easier to digest while still being great, but arcs like Otto and Moon arc are still a must from time to time to keep their unique style of writing and world building, so i would say we have a good balance of them already and no need to streamline the writing and removing that uniqueness for all the upcoming story
parts.
p.s keep some the visual novel aspec5s its a part of that style.
tldr; please read the story with more than 2 brain cells on and it becomes easy to understand(dont get offended its a joke)
The leaderboards as they keep the game competitive and fresh and it aint as much of a whale system as people think as a person who played the game for 6 years and spent money like 4 times (3 of them for outfits ik stupid choice lol), i can keep up with "meta" pretty easily and rank pretty highly and retain Redlotus abyss even without full newer valks or anything, a change that can be done is putting more materials rewards for stuff like Redlotus and Agony make all of it give 500 xtals just gives u more materials for higher tiers and keep Nirvana giving 520 and even more materials which literally almost a useless difference but still enough for the tryhard or whale to compete for something, leaderboards are an absolute must imo it pushes the playerbase to innovate on new combos and have fun with new bosses which helps keep the game fresh, even for new players wanting to be higher in their bracket they will have fun learning combos and boss paterns, without it people are less likely to optimize combos for literal seconds difference, cuz whats the point if there is no leaderboard or rewards for it.
tldr; keep the leaderboard maybe divide the crystal rewards a bit better between tiers in abyss and just git gud and learn to play the game please cuz i have seen some whales who suck lol, trust me as f2p u can beat them by out skilling them.
overall as homu said would like to see some of these changes but regardless still hyped to see what they do for part 2.
You're the only comment that had any sense to it. You're right on the money. HI3 isn't a P2W as they claim. Brand new players SHOULD NOT expect to come into the game thinking they are placing top of the ladder. I have only been playing for 2 years (because I used to hate subbed anime/ games. Now I only hate subbed anime) and only started doing good about a year in once I understood the game.
The story is phenomenal, I do find myself wishing it was dubbed so I didn't have to read for 12 hours straight but the localization is pretty damn good and I am hooked into the lore. I'm not sure why people have a hard time understanding. I feel HOMU was a little unfair because a few typos or mistakes doesn't detract from the story or the immersion. Unless it's because English isn't his first language and is harder for him to understand?
Anyways, I just wanted to thank you for your comment because it made me sense than Homu and 98% if these comments who are shooting off unrealistic ideas.
@@HansDester tbf to homu, he didnt say the localization makes the story horrible, its just not a good look to make typos in general and u can feel the over worked and under staffed localization team working hard to keep up with all this text, mihoyo should absolutely hire more people on that team to help the quality.
and to everyone else that commented here or in the community in general, most of them are just wanting the game to be better for everyone and complaining and giving feedback is always good to help maintain the quality thats why people whould always do the surveys and voice their opinion in a good way there, granted there are some people who complain for the sake of complaining but those exist in all communities lol, just let them be, wouldnt change the opinion of the people who enjoy the game.
@@HansDesterI think the reason homu is a bit tough on the localisation is that he’s very invested in the lore. For example, one thing he and other lore enthusiasts has brought up is the usage of “universe” instead of “world”. For the absolute majority of players this is merely semantics and doesn’t affect the story in any meaningful way. Like Himeko’s sacrifice isn’t any more or less emotional and Kiana’s subsequent depression doesn’t feel more or less real after knowing that the story takes place in a world inside a universe inside a multiverse as opposed to just a universe inside of a multiverse. But for someone who tries to understand the cosmology and make theories about it, it would make a difference, especially when discussing those theories with other people.
Agree with the competitive part though. I can see how some people would feel stressed out by a leaderboard and I would agree if there was a large difference in rewards between the tiers. But as it is now the difference between rl (which experienced F2Ps should be able to retain) and nirvana (which is a bit more competitive) is 20 crystals. And as a F2P who’s been playing for almost 3 years and is bouncing between rl and nirvana I’m not exactly panicking about my crystal income when I relegate to rl for a couple cycles. Powercreep also arguably makes it easier for newer players to catch up as they can focus on getting new characters. But I guess this is very individual and not everyone can possibly agree.
One qol that i really wanted in honkai 3rd. Pls make like stigma wish system for weapon cuz i too tired to gacha non rate up weapon and cant do much about it aside exchange it for torus and blue reso....also return aug core system along add several old character in ely realm...
I wish they would translate the game to other laguages like they did with genshin and star rail. I can understand english, but it's not my mother language and a lot of people from my country that play genshin and star rail would like to try honkai but because there is no translation to our language, they don't even gave the game a chance
They need to expand the number of languages by adding, for example, Ru.
because in the rest of their games he is present, as well as many others
agreed on most part BUT the abyss leaderboards being removed
why? because both F2P and whales has their needs
i don't really want a stage above my current gear power to be locking my crystals
and i'd bet some whales would get bored if the difficulty is reduced to accommodate F2Ps
see... this is the genshin problem with abyss and i dread them being brought over to HI3... even i feel the pain in HSR since i don't play it much....
the abyss being separated into tiers and levels is perfectly fine cause the reward gap isn't really significant and both F2P and whales can get a challenge appropriate with their gear power
and leaderboards can actually teach some new players for what team is good on what weather as well and it gives a sense of community because seeing other people tackle the abyss at the same room as you makes you feel that you are not alone doing the game mode and it helps keeping the mode feels busy
edit : also no english dub please.... they butcher the japanese character archetype and make them a whole other person entirely
kuudere especially and bratty personality is just not implementable in english and many more....
also the english dub never got cute and funny characters right and ends up having them sound like an old lady trying to speak baby
so no... no eng dub in hi3 for god sake
Yea remove Abyss or MA leaderboard doesn't help anything
In fact like you said it more benefit to new players if keep it. It help player copy team and build LMAO
Kinda agreed if the latest story part is kinda"complicated" , it has too much text to read😅
I wouldn't say that I am excited but I do welcome Part 2, meaning that I am fine with the story taking another direction and focusing on other characters.
Kiana is fine at the Moon, being busy eating junk food! Kiana is fine at the Moon, being busy eating junk food! That's so funny but I guess that it is something that maybe we all would do. I don't know how many activities she has at the Moon and how lonely she feels. Perhaps sometimes she play online games with Bronya. They mentioned some Honkai Battle Royale game. It would be funny if that game is for the whole prople on Earth (game wise) and Kiana, Mei, Bronya and others are sort of idol characters in that game. If that so, then it is funny that Kiana and Bronya play their own characters in that game.
Many say that "Second Parts" are never good. It is silly to judge by that expression or just pre-judge without even experiencing the game's story. I think that it is good that they expand their story, even if it gets further complicated.
The self insert is what's gonna hold it back big time. It's such a massive downgrade to go from actual characters to a self insert and they make the stories suffer. Especially with how Hoyo sucks at them
You have some good suggestions. I do think that since they're removing the Co-op, they should replace it with something else. Maybe a version where we borrow other players' characters instead of having to wait for them to queue up, sort of like _HSR_ 's support system? And it'd be fun to have raids, even if teams were limited to 5 or 6 members due to... graphical limitations.
An English dub would surely catapult _HI3_ 's popularity closer to where it deserves to be. I know for a fact that many people who would have tried it decided not to because they don't want to be reading subtitles. Well, now Mihoyo has a whole bunch of English voice actors for versions of many characters thanks to _HSR_ 's English dub -- and voice actors have an hourly salary, so asking them to sit down to record for new content, and then old content, should be pretty inexpensive, relatively-speaking. And would help to make _HI3_ as popular as it is on the SEA server. Maybe. At the same time, Mihoyo could review old content, especially the start, to bring up the quality to more modern levels. Small steps can have a big impact, too. They don't need to do everything at once. They could even do it for the Version 8 update if they wanted to. As long as players knew it was coming, they could anticipate it like the release of _ZZZ_ .
New players coming to _HI3_ always ask where the tutorials are for older characters. Or most of them: Why is there no tutorial for Azure Empyrea, but there is one for Yamabuki Armour? Mihoyo could go back and create tutorials for each battlesuit, excluding the Starter Trio because that is included in the game's starting tutorial, and also because only the most daring of whales use the Starter Trio past that point -- with top gacha gear. Teaching players how to use each battlesuit would help to sell them based on a liked playstyle, especially outside the meta, which would mean more money for Mihoyo, and more fun for players.
so you're saying you want to coop with friendly NPC😅
Great points! I do wonder if male characters will ever be playable. Wonder what your thoughts are?
While i do agree with most of the points. EN dub is not one of them, not because i don't want the game to become popular as HSR but because in the past, EN dubs in mihoyo games has been... lacking/weird imo. If they would find good VAs for the characters then i'm all in but with how they choose EN VAs in the past, i'm not quite sure
Also i'm kind of excited for part 2, especially for the story! I wish that this game though would make some sort of mode where you can play older valks/battlesuits without the restriction of Elysian Realm "Weather" and i wish they would add more old battlesuis in ER again (i'm especially waiting KMB kiana and LE mei there)
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I don't think leaderboards should be gone cause it does givr an insensitive for players to become better at the game but having the rewards be accounted only for participation is a good idea that a competitor of HI3rd, Punishing Gray Raven from Kuro is already doing and I think it's the perfect solution for players who don't care about rankings and then ones like me who want to show off a bit. Seeing them making stigmatas farmable like PGR has farmable Memories which are the equivalent of the stigs and basically going the same route with the weapons by adding ascension points to them if you feed them dups I can expect them doing more stuff similar to that game. Lastly I will agree with coop. I wish they did something more rather than jusy remove it but here's hoping they will surprise us in the future
hi my dear . honkai impact 3rd part 2 we will take all characters from part 1?
I certainly want HI3 to get an English dub. If Honkai Star Rail has a dub, then let this have an English dub as well.
I'm with you, brother! An excellently made Stylish Action ACG (anime comic game, an alternative label for visual novel) deserves that, much like with Fate/Grand Order. The dev team should follow what Kuro Games did with Punishing Gray Raven a few years after its release, which they gave the game an official EN dub. I would suggest that a good voice director, who is not woke by the way, be the one to helm the project, bonus if he or she knows the game's characters, story, and lore well and is playing it as well as following lore channels and watched all HI3-related content such as this.
Since we can now download and delete voice resources, it will be easy to manage the game even in "potato" phones.
11:17 exactly!!! I thought it was just my phone so I upgraded but it still run like shit. it's playable now but it still needs work. I'm rocking a snapdragon 7+ gen 2, it's already an impressive chipset but somehow framerate still drops on those open areas.
playable men and no flying monstrosity that destroy my eardrum every seconds it it talks and moves
Great video as always, also thanks for mention me 😃
yup I want the 12 man raid eye of the deep back. that was hell but it was a fun experience.
part 1 really deserves some fixes because i left the game entirely for around 1 year but came back after hearing some stuff about the story (and i got interested in HI3 cosmology for my videos as well)
edit: yes totally agreed with english dub part because i as someone that hates reading too much that was a big reason to why i just couldnt enjoy the game early on
Playable men and english dub will make the game 100× better
i thinkazure is just a name vita gave to little vita in one of the cycles
yeah ngl when I played through the main story I sometimes felt like I need to be an expert in philosophy and science to understand what tf the characters are trying to explain sometimes
I always thought that maybe they'd Playable male Mostly because they did saving when to connect apho in the main story at some point but they didn't say when So I always thought it would be either part 2.5 or part 3 something But who knows at that point? but I have also always wanted playable males but anyway I'm just happy to play The Game. And if they have playable male characters at some point that will be a bonus But i'm not fussy over it I also wish about some of the other points in this video, but this comment is already to long
Edit: I forgot to add this the point I wanted to make was that easier grind for outfit cards the blue ones are fine but it seems like it takes forever to grind the pink ones not everybody has the money to buy the big chips to get them an even with outfit supplies and stuff you still need crystals I just feel like there should be a way to grind for them through events or something similar IDK it's just a point I wanted to make
When it comes to the people that are worried that the original cast are going to be discarded, I doubt that's the case - we know from Part 2's prologue that Kiana becomes the teacher of Helia and Coralie (Plus, it'll likely show Mei and Bronya's movements as it gets nearer to APHO). That aside, there are some changes which they COULD make:
1. English dub - it'd be interesting to see how the characters are portrayed with their Impact 3rd personalities, since Bronya, Himeko, Cocolia, Welt, Bronie and Bronya all have English VA's due to being in Star Rail
2. More dorm functions - Maybe give the captain a model of his own, and give new ways to build bonding in that way - i.e. games? (Not too sure on that one, tbh)
3. Actually give the Dreamseeker a personality, so they feel more like a normal character (Somewhat on the scale of Adam if they don't want to go the full mile) than a self-insert
4. Keep the animated shorts like they did in Part 1 - this is what made the game feel better. I mean, I doubt Himeko VS Herrscher of Void (AKA Final Lesson)would've worked as well if they did it via gameplay
Finally, I WOULD say that the game would benefit from a console release - but at the same time, would it?
want i want for future of the game:
remove foundry and exchange house, merge them into one, make foundry mat and 2 Resonancincree into 1, make price to buy them cheaper
make more PRI for older characters (miko sakura lol)
add more old characters to ER, remove time challenge bonus on double floor
make it easier and faster to farm stigmata
make it easier to farm valk frag
make sp valk off rate of future banner
I think an English dub for the second part only could be explained as we are on a new planet and the language is different. I would love to have HI3 on PlayStation. I play HSR
and Genshin on PS5.
I really wanted the mouse to move the cursor like in genshin, I play other games that the mouse moves it and in Honkai it's really unpleasant
5:37 that so mean dude 😅😅
Great video!!! I agree with a lot of your points especially the playable males one bcz it just feels a bit like a waste to have so many awesome male charas and not make them playable but whatever. One thing i reeeeeally would like them to do is update the old chapters from the story to the quality that we have right now like the dialogue box, 3d models without the vn type of storytelling, (well more like mixed not removed), etc and it would be great if they also give a bit of a rework to the older battlesuits so there's not a gigantic difference in quality between the new and old (like with the ui), and i would also like to see in part 2 more enemy variety bcz there's always like ONLY 3-5 enemies of the same type (the paradise wardens for example), and i hope they add A LOT of new osts (like in genshin or hsr) bcz i LOVE honkai's music.
But aside from all that i'm really excited for part 2 and all the things in it, i know the characters, osts, areas, bosses, etc are all going to be great so i can't wait to play!!!!😊😊😊
These are wishful hope for the game indeed. While I can see your point of wanting English Dub, I personally WANT it to stay how it is. Call me gatekeeper or satan, but I really don't find hsr and gi fandom as something I'm envious of from them. As for the playable male characters, as much as I want it more than any single soul in hi3 fandom it becoming a reality might shatter the game's fanbase. The male collaborators might be a way, and they maybe could put another male character (s) that is entirely playable just like Adam for APHO3 not a support like Lyle. But having them being featured as limited characters who needs to be pulled via gacha will turn the community inside out because the game was distributed around with the trait of it being all girls game. That is unfortunate of course, but I'm happy that they saw the potential of male characters in the game.. like that CN survey, whole false-advertising youtube ad that features Otto, Kevin, and Welt, Kevin being playable in some stages... I wish they make them playable one day when they gathered enough mass in their balls, but until then.. as long as the game stays up, I'll take what I can get.
We only got stigmata improvement in 7.3 sadly
they def need to make grinding less painful in this