This case should be solved, that tiny amount of Blood that was found on her sweater should/could be analyzed NOW, in 2020 . They have what it takes now to test it.
i think ambers shoes were not found together because someone threw the clothes from a car window and then realized they still had a shoe so then he threw that out the window a couple yards away. but idk the details
@@marybethcapane5490 Yes, 100% my believe. Realized later that he hadn't discarded that one shoe.. I certainly trust Bonnie, and I think Joey also. I'm thinking Joey's timing when Dan had left (Bonnie was on the phone with Amber) may be accurate. Maybe Amber didn't really care for Dan, but still went along and let him put her bike in back of the truck so he could give her a ride. With Bonnie's believes, him hanging himself, and the type of criminal record Dan had, it's hard to lean in a different direction.. Not that he had anything to do with it, but like Bonnie, I also maybe think that Forrest (at the least) had suspisions, but already had serving hard time, the less he was involved, the better.. Oklahoma (just this past weekend) is very known for their storms. Brandi I'm sure has been through a few, and this one mentioned was only the outskirts of one.. Not only smacked her around, but her boyfriend at/around the time also once cut her neck! I just don't get how they can blame a storm, and pretty much leave it there?! I have pretty tough skin, but Parents like this. That poor Mom (Bonnie).. Goodnight (from Upstate)
her vids are educational but sad to watch because you get to learn about how someone whom lost they life by someone unknown got their case finally solved years later
This is gonna be a very long comment but 3 things you mentioned kind of stood out to me about this and obviously, no one can give me a for sure answer but my thoughts and questions are.. 1. What if whoever took Amber was trying to throw police off when they put her stuff in one location and the other shoe in another area trying to make police think "oh since her stuff is over here they must have been in this area or gone this direction" when in reality they were somewhere else? 2. What if Daniel wasn't the only one involved (if at all) and since the police wanted to talk to him the other person was that Forrest guy and he knew Daniel would tell what happened and so he was killed to look like a suicide? You said that Forrest was with him the day of the kidnapping and the day of the guy's death and that seems a bit suspicious to me. 3. Is it possible that Brandie got sick of her boyfriend's crap and finally decided to leave him and as she grabbed her stuff he realized he didn't like that idea so he hit her or pushed her and she hit her head and that's why her clothes were all around her? I love your videos by the way! ❤
Ryann Hart. So many fantastic questions! I have just one more: WHY the ring??? That probably would have taken time to work it off her hand. Just extra odd.
@@lauravalancy2521 I think they took off her ring cause they wanted to get rid of any distinctive thing that may help police identify quicker the body if it was ever found. I also believe Daniel Smith and Forrest could have been accomplices, maybe they belonged to a Child Traffic ring or something. About the older sisters, it seems they were always hanging out with the wrong people, too many suspicious individuals in that case...
@@julz3tt3 I couldn't either. The only thing holding me back would be the age old debate on Heaven/Hell and how allegedly if you kill yourself, you go to Hell. AKA I truly wouldn't see my child again but if you dont believe in anything.. in the moment, I dont know that I could even think clearly by any means. 😒
I’m in Oklahoma and we are LITERALLY in the middle of some super severe weather here right now. Tornado warnings etc. I’ve been through many a storm and you can track the damage these things make. If there wasn’t damage to her area, it wasn’t a tornado that killed her. I’d bet money...Poor girls. Thanks Gabby for another great vid, you look beautimus as always! ❤️❤️❤️
DC4L Really?!? See that proves my point even more! 40 miles away..holy sh*t...no way in hell was a tornado involved whatsoever!! And yep, law enforcement gets overwhelmed and I can see how this fell through the cracks...even though it’s appalling to think that could happen...small town+bad weather isn’t a great combo. So sad. Well, enjoy any crap weather that may blow your way! 😬😬 We’re recovering from flooding sooooo that’s been fun 🤦🏼♀️🙈
This whole case feels like a soap opera. It sounds so unreal, with all the twists and turns -- except it happened in my city. This is one I hope to see solved in my lifetime. Thanks for shining a light on it.
As someone that has experienced a few tornadoes in my life, one question was the trailer damaged at all? I lived in a solidly built farm house as a child with brick interior took down some walnut trees over the years and also experienced the Springfield Ill tornado as I lived there at the time. This was about fifteen years ago but took my balcony, left me without electricity for days and wiped out many businesses. Took my dogs into the bathroom away from the balcony that had a sliding glass window. During that time you could trace the path of a tornado with precision.
The day is especially cold here, and I needed a pause from studying. It's always a blessing to have your videos on perfect timing. Now, about the cases... It's really sad, having sisters myself I just can't think of how it must be to lose a sibling like that, not knowing really what happened to her and living the rest of your life hunted by evidence, a suspect and probably responsible for it, and most likely reliving that day, thinking about what you could have done differently to avoid all of this. And then another tragedy, meeting such a strange end... Things just don't add up, I don't believe the storm was responsible for her death. I just wish for the family to get at least some answers, some sort of justice... Thank you for another amazing video. As always, you were so respectful and genuinely caring with both cases, I will always appreciate your hard work and dedication. Lots of love from Chile! ❤️
Me too...gabby seems a little sad since she returned i hope whatevr she is dealing with resolves itself. Guess its NOMB but we are wishing for the best
To be clear, I'm not about to make assumptions about the entire state of Oklahoma, *BUT* damn! So many mysterious cases that have no resolution- just off the top of my head: The Jamison Family, Laura Bible & Ashley Freeman disappearance (and murder of Ashley's parents AND previous murder of her brother), and these two cases! All of these involve families, murder, disappearances & what can only be described (I'm just being honest) as complete inept OSBI/Law Enforcement. How are NONE of these cases solved? How? That's just off the top of my head. There are many others, and all of these really make me feel in my gut that something is very off in Oklahoma. I wouldn't live there if you paid me.
Jesus! You have got to be kidding me. You named a few murders that have not been solved & primarily in rural areas besides this case. The amount of cases world wide that have not been solved & to make a comment like this. Literally the most idiotic statement.
I wasted 5 years of my life in OKC. Horrid people. All of them. All around. The entire machine shop I worked at, over 20 men got pissed and threated to walk off CNC and welding jobs because the black guy in our qc shop got a raise. No shit. Cheapest employee there. Not one man had an issue with his work ethic. I kept asking until eventually some of, what I had previously considered were leaders, took me literally to the side of the shop to explain the black man shouldn't have gotten a raise because he's black. This was 2001.
I lost a 3 month old son 2 SIDS 12 years ago and I still can't get over it, it breaks my heart every single day so I really can't imagine how their mother felt having lost 2 grown children 2 mysterious causes with no answers that would for sure be enough 2 make ur heart stop
There's another mother who had two daughters murdered. Pamela Butler was a younger girl who was abducted and killed in the 90s and then years later her older sister Casey Eaton was murdered also. Both are solved but still. 💔 I've lost a 15 year old, by his own decisions but to lose two kids from murders/suspicious surroundings is 😢😢😢😢😢
Hi Gabby this is so sad that too many lovely children goes missing and still a cold case. 😿I hope one day they will find her. Lots of good wishes and good luck on your podcast 👍🏻👩🏻🏫
You should do the case of the first milk carton boy who went missing John David Goschhe went missing in 1982 and hasn’t been found to this day🙁 there’s also Eugene Martin and Kevin jay ayotte who were also on milk cartons too
I agree that the suicides in both cases are suspicious--but suspicious doesn't indicate an answer. As for Amber's shoes, I think the perp was probably driving along, throwing her clothes out a car window at random, hoping they would not be found. I imagine it something like: shoe, drive a few blocks, shirt, drive a few blocks, darn it, I thought I threw both shoes out, well, here is as good a place as any... As for Brandi--I have a friend who lives in OK City and was right on the border of the damage. Literally on the border--most of the houses on the other side of her street suffered significant damage like losing roofs. On her side of the street, minor damage was all. She said that the wind seemed quite high. If Brandi was living in a trailer, then she may have known that those are really dangerous in tornadoes. You're literally safer going out and lying in a ditch in the open than you are to stay inside a trailer (or a small building on a slab, such as many convenience stores). If the wind is high, it can literally pick the clothes off a person's body but in that case, you'd expect to see the clothes strewn in a long line away from the body or not find any clothes at all. I'd love to see the official autopsy report in order to find out exactly what the basis for ruling her a storm victim was because the clothes thing seems really difficult to explain by any natural means.
I’m from Del City Oklahoma I always heard about this because of Ray Trent and it was always believed her body was actually at Ray Trent Park. That’s what everyone always told us anyways. Ray Trent park is really big with a lot of wooded area/creeks.
Regarding Brandi... I was thinking it could also be caused by a microburst, which is an intense but small downdraft produced by a thunderstorm or rain shower. They are usually super quick and therefore can't be predicted or usually picked up on radar. This could have caused her to hit her head and make the clothing surround her. Also, her disability could have caused some head trauma, but not sure what her ailments were.
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Good job Gabby. This is so tragic. I can pretty much tell you this. I believe there are people around now who know exactly what happened to both sisters.
I'm a child of the 90s and my parents wouldn't let any of us bike alone even down the road until we were 13. Even then it was with caution, their caution has kept us 3 alive all these years. I've lived in London and you have to be alert, don't walk alone too far anywhere. Poor Amber :( there are a couple of prime suspects I'd say. Daniel seems most likely. 😓😨 Or Joey Bishop, even Forrest Smith is creepy as hell... If Daniel really did commit suicide then that's a clear sign of guilt. Someone who knew something may have killed him and made it look like a hanging. Joeys death is suspicious but then both of them were most certainly scumbags.
Same, my mom would never let me bike anywhere she couldnt see me. I think it depends on the maturity and life skills of the child but I think 12 is an appropriate age and only bike with friends, not alone. My mom was a Block Parent in the '70's. I dont know if they have Block Parents anymore, parents who had an offical Block Parent sign so if a child was lost or in trouble, they could go to a Block Parents house and have a safe place to stay until their parents picked them up.
I told my mom she’s lucky we’re all alive bc we were riding bikes or walking around “the block” and down alley ways since we were like 8. Looking back I can’t believe something didn’t happen to any of me or my siblings. 😳
We would love to hear more from you gabbie... Looking forward for part 2, and more cases... We really appreciated what you've done and shared with us....
These Girls were all kind and pretty. I knew them all, 4 girls Although I lost track of them in later 80s I held Amber when she was a baby, last time I saw the family. Penny, Debbie I am sorry all these things happened to you girls. I'll always remember the big smile Brandie had and those big brown eyes Amber had when she was a baby, you all had those big beautiful brown eyes. I send you both blessings..
I think Brandie might have just been doing laundry during the storm, trailers don't usually have laundry hookups so she might have been walking to a nearby facility and hit her head somehow and the storm blew her laundry basket away (they aren't always cheap so someone probably grabbed it) but her clothes got wet in the storm and were heavy enough to stay by her
I was in Ambers 4th grade class. I remember playing at recess with her. We had the same friends it seemed. We didn't live very far from each other either. We were all devastated and shocked someone so young and vibrant just vanished and no one ever found her body 😢. I pray her and her sister get justice one day.
Realizing that they are from my hometown is so crazy. Im in complete shock knowing that this was only 3 years before I was born. Btw because I have been through these storms, there is honestly no way that she was a storm victim. Doesn't make sense that the police would call her a storm victim especially is the storm didn't go through that town.
Thank you for providing information about Amber's case. I really enjoyed watching your video so much I subscribed to your channel. I live in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma and I remember Amber's case. I am still mystified about her case even to this day. Such a sad case about both sisters. I especially feel sorry for their deceased mother, and remaining family members that have to live with knowing they were murdered. I have not seen any videos inregard to Amber and her sister. I had no idea that years later Amber's sister would also pass away under mysterious circumstances. I greatly appreciate you presenting both of these cases which it seems to me that they have been forgotten. I am from a very small country town in Southern Oklahoma. There is three unsolved cases in Garvin County. These cases have mystified me because they are in close proximity to where I use to live. Could you present a video about Sheila Deviney, Chandra Turner, and Tom Horton. The press calls their cases the Garvin County 3. All three cases were ruled suicides, but evidence at all three crimes points to homicide, especially Sheila Deviney and Chandra Turner. Both of these girl's crime scenes were horrific, but the Garvin County sheriff's office ruled that they committed suicide. Just the crime scene alone will tell you that they were murdered. Even the Oklahoma Medical Examiner 's office had reported that Sheila and Chandra were murdered, but the Garvin County sheriff says, Not! They committed suicide. Thank you.
Once a killer threw away all the belongings at one place, and when he drove away he noticed a shoe left in the car. He then disposed of the shoe where at the spot where he noticed it still being in the car. It was a mistery as well why the shoes were so far apart, but there you are, a simple and unimportant explenation.
I think there is a very good chance that Daniel kidnapped Amber. Without getting into to much detail I think he forced something down her throat, and she asphyxiated on the object, and her own vomit. So not wanting to drive with that smell, he removed said items, and tossed them (maybe the ring came off with the sweater). I think Forrest knew, or suspected that Daniel harmed the young girl, so he hung him in a public place to show that he was dealt with. I wonder if the location he was found hanging is close to where he disposed of Amber?
Presumably if they have an 'unknown' DNA profile, then it wasn't a match to any of the men mentioned, Daniel, Joey, Forrest etc...so if Daniel was involved, he must also have had an accomplice.
The way the the shoes and sweater was found it sounds like the perpetrator either disposed of the sweater and shoe and realized he or she had the other shoe in the car or in their house later on and got rid it of at a random location. Or they planted it that way to throw police off.
What if the clothes were a domestic dispute? They threw the clothes into the ditch, she goes to collect them, and the assailant provided the blunt force trauma. That could be a reason her clothes were around her.
This is a newer case . I know you like to lean towards “vintage” older cold cases or unsolved cases, but I saw this on my Apple newsfeed can you please cover Hayley Lamez and her disappearance?
Gabby, this has nothing to do with this video! Lol! I have only recently discovered your channel and have been watching several older videos on early Hollywood starlets. Do you not find it ironic how many YOUNG starlets passed away SO YOUNG? I HAD NO IDEA, until I watched your stories. You are obviously MUCH YOUNGER than I, and I am so impressed with your devotion. Possibly a reincarnated star? Yes, I believe in that. Thanks for your hard work!
On the older sister, did anyone happen to find a laundry basket or a clothes line nearby? Maybe she didn't have a dryer and when the storm came by she ran out to get the clothes becuase she had forgotten them outside or something. Just a thought.
Listened three times to try a figure out what was up. Did Brandi have a car that she was carrying out an arm load of clothes, then got hit in the head with wind blown debris? Possible, but with the history of abuse, the statistics would be that domestic violence is the cause.
I want to say Gabby thank you for doing these videos anyone you does these types of videos maybe someday they will be solved and I hope that they will get caught on the ones that have done bad things that hurt people
So happy to get this notification!!!!! Perfect timing universe lol 🙏💜🙏 Okay getting comfy under the blanket☺😉. Thank you Gabby you always do an incredible job!!! Really pulls on the heart strings 😢😢😢😢
do you know if they searched the forest where he killed himself? was it a significant place, maybe where she was buried and he was leaving behind a clue? my guess is that both men were involved (hence one committing suicide before talking, and the other having nightmares)...and is it possible that her sister found out about her boyfriend being amber's killer before she was murdered?
This happened near where I grew up and in my grandmothers neighborhood and was my age. Still drive by the house she lived in at the time. I hope this is solved.
I knew both of these girls Amber and Britney, Britney was married to my brother when they were very young, right before Joey and if I remember correctly that may have been why they split. Do you not find it odd that Joey was there when Amber was taken and called the day after Britney died to ask where she was? Bonnie replied it's too late... Do you think maybe he went to get her and was again throwing her clothes around and fought in the yard and she fell and he ran, hince the phone call after her death.
Also she has a sister Penny Barker you didn't mention, she has a lot of information if you want to dig into that you would be much better off than contacting Debbi. Debbi has always been an addict and is never in the right frame of mind, she has hooked all of those kids in that family at one time or another on the crank or crack or what ever they can get. Penny is the only one in that family that could - do either of these stories justice. I was excited to see your video I often go looking on line for Amber and that's how I ran into this story - I would do anything for the cops to open an active investigation on both of the girls. It's a cop-out that the police know for a fact it wasn't weather and still won't open an investigation - but that also gives their lazy asses one less cold case in their county... Life is not a matter of business to them and that looks to be factual.
Some women don't date guys that live right, it just don't turn them on. And drug users don't attract good guys. It's a shame the little girl did not have a chance to live life. you do not hear a mention of a father at all. I know with my daughter now I'm so watchful, the world is a scary place.
It seems more likely the shoe was with the other belongings and other shoe but it was picked up by a dog or a child and carried to the other location before it was dropped.
Seriously your videos are amazing and full of heart💗 my suspicion falls on the boyfriend as well in both cases (or Brandy's ex boyfriend) why take your life if you are innocent of blame and it sounds like a very lazy investigation in the older sister case. I live in that area where tornados but and have seen it leave one house after taking out a entire block of houses yet the scene you describe doesn't sound plausible as a victim of a storm to convenient if you ask me. My heart breaks for the family they deserve closure. Keep up the amazing work💖
I've reached out to someone in the area, someone with ties to police. Also, we should get the ME's report, you can get it for 20 bucks at the OK ME's office website. Got twitter? I'll reach out if i learn anything.
I wish you luck in getting a hold of a family member who could give more new details and insight on this sad double sister case. For my two cents Amber I feel like all "blue" arrows point to Mfr.Smith . The blue seats, blue rugs, and blue dash. Not to bring up the fact he hung himself. The older sister is a bit more harder like I need more info Grabby I hope you are feeling okay you look very tried
My theory on how her shoes and sweater were scattered shows that she put up a huge fight against her abductor. When we played as kids and grabbed someone and was trying not to let go of them, if they had removable clothes like a coat or sweater, they would keep pulling their arm until it solid out of the sleeve and the tug of war continued until the remainder of the item came off and they escaped. I know, we played rough. Vomiting is also a sign of a concussion after being hit in the head. But if this big a struggled happened in a public area, it looks premeditated since it happened when traffic was light and the neighbors wouldn't notice. Shoes will also come off during a struggle or during a fast as heck run. Often times parents can't find good fitting shoes for growing kids or they simply are laced up tight enough to keep them on during a fast sprint
I agree. I thought right away...did he kill himself? If he was guilty he gave himelf the ULTIMATE penalty. And if he were going to do that wouldn't he want to leave a note? What did he have to lose at that point.
Daniel Smith probably responsible for Amber, but too much coincidence for the other sisters death. It's a strange case gabby. Older sister was well liked and funny.
Yeah. Smith probably confided in someone and whoever killed Brandy they weren’t connected to Amber’s disappearance and likely murder. If there was a connection, like Debbie uncovered something about her sister’s disappearance, then I don’t know. I think her sister’s disappearance affected her hard. Terrible for the mom to lose two daughters.
Was Brandi’s boyfriend at the time of Ambers death in jail when Brandi was murdered? He’s really the only connection between the two sisters. Maybe Brandi found out he did it and killed Brandi as well.
Could you investigate Brighid Luckett? i’ve recently seen her on the Missing and Exploited Children page, she’s been gone since december 7th, 2020 and there’s just two pictures of her, i investigated a bit and i just found out that when she went missing, she was weaing a brown sweater, a Harley Davidson, black pants, pink converse, a necklace and a small white backpack, she went missing on Woodland Hills, California when she was 15 years old, she would now be close to her 17, all of her details are on the Missing and Exploited Children page, by the way, she may had ran away or already been found, but if you have info i’d appreciate it, i just wonder what could had happened to her since she looked so young and i couldn’t find more about her, and also you should investigate another children who disappeared around the same dates (from December 5th to December 20)
This is one very tragic story. In my opinion, a very dysfunctional family. Yes bad things happen to good people all the time. However people do gravitate to what they are familiar with. If that is domestic violence .. psych 101 theory? Yes. Look at any language any culture thousands of miles and as many years apart. Yet identical pearls of wisdom can be found across years and miles as human nature is human nature. The simplest answers are generally the correct answers!
I honestly love your channel because since I was small.... Well I was weird And when I was 11 I started hearing about cases and it honestly made me really intrested My first case I actually started getting into it and started researching was when I was 11 and it was the black Dahlia or Elizabeth short Then I just started watching more and more case videos about like Ted Bundy and the Texas massacre I just find your videos or case videos in general intresting ^ I'm not a serial killer, I swear😂💀
You cover this case so professionally thank you. I questioned why Smith took his life and came up with two different reasons: 1] he did it out of guilt as he had killed Amber or 2] he was protecting someone else who had killed Amber, possibly Rice or even one of her sisters
As for poor Brandy, she obviously was traumatized as a direct result of what happened to her sister. Because of her lifestyle she was marginalized and thats as unreasonable as it is cruel. People that are substance abusers, especially those who cant maintain stable housing,are quite often tortured souls whose horrific life stories are with them all the time, yet society treats them as disposable. Thats never ok, it could be you or your loved one.
Both of these deaths have overtones of kidnapping and sex trafficking in them, especially scatter of clothing randomly around the victim or in geographically separated area. Daniel's death sounds like he was a confidant of these kidnappers and they staged his death to look like a suicide because he was a 'loose end'. But I am speculating at this point.
Dana Moore, I fully agree. Their disrobing Amber at the beginning sounds extremely practiced. I was also wondering about Bonnie... she made that call in front of those creeps? Maybe she sold Amber and told them where she’d be?
@@lauravalancy2521 that's uncalled for. I'm the oldest sister of Amber and my mom would never sale my sister and if you payed attention to the story you'd realize they weren't there when call was made. That's what this girl was trying to say is that the two guys were lying. My mom knew who was at the house when the call was made. If you knew my mom and Amber's closeness you'd never make that statement.
I keep thinking... what if.. just what if.. brandy got into an argument with her boyfriend.. decided to move out.. he got angry and then took it out on her.
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My heart goes out to Debbie. She lost 2 sisters and her mother. So sad.
This case should be solved, that tiny amount of Blood that was found on her sweater should/could be analyzed NOW, in 2020 . They have what it takes now to test it.
So many missing people out there - but they are somewhere .. it is a victory ever time one is found ! Dead or alive
i think ambers shoes were not found together because someone threw the clothes from a car window and then realized they still had a shoe so then he threw that out the window a couple yards away. but idk the details
that does make a lot of sense!
I think you're right.
I agree!
@@marybethcapane5490 Yes, 100% my believe. Realized later that he hadn't
discarded that one shoe..
I certainly trust Bonnie, and I think Joey also. I'm thinking Joey's
timing when Dan had left (Bonnie was on the phone with Amber)
may be accurate. Maybe Amber didn't really care for Dan, but still
went along and let him put her bike in back of the truck so he could
give her a ride. With Bonnie's believes, him hanging himself, and the
type of criminal record Dan had, it's hard to lean in a different direction..
Not that he had anything to do with it, but like Bonnie, I also maybe
think that Forrest (at the least) had suspisions, but already had serving
hard time, the less he was involved, the better..
Oklahoma (just this past weekend) is very known for their storms. Brandi
I'm sure has been through a few, and this one mentioned was only the
outskirts of one..
Not only smacked her around, but her boyfriend at/around the time also
once cut her neck! I just don't get how they can blame a storm, and pretty
much leave it there?!
I have pretty tough skin, but Parents like this. That poor Mom (Bonnie)..
Goodnight (from Upstate)
That's what I was thinking too
I think it is so strange that both of the men who were suspects or linked to their deaths, both committed suicide.. My heart goes out to this family.
I don't think the second man committed suicide 🤔
Actions speak louder than words don't they???
@@d.on.in.a he did
@@jackystar5099 no he didn't?
@@julz3tt3 Exactly ;)
Thank you for being a RUclipsr that always covers cases I’ve never heard of and lesser known ones, it’s appreciated ❤️❤️
her vids are educational but sad to watch because you get to learn about how someone whom lost they life by someone unknown got their case finally solved years later
This is gonna be a very long comment but 3 things you mentioned kind of stood out to me about this and obviously, no one can give me a for sure answer but my thoughts and questions are..
1. What if whoever took Amber was trying to throw police off when they put her stuff in one location and the other shoe in another area trying to make police think "oh since her stuff is over here they must have been in this area or gone this direction" when in reality they were somewhere else?
2. What if Daniel wasn't the only one involved (if at all) and since the police wanted to talk to him the other person was that Forrest guy and he knew Daniel would tell what happened and so he was killed to look like a suicide? You said that Forrest was with him the day of the kidnapping and the day of the guy's death and that seems a bit suspicious to me.
3. Is it possible that Brandie got sick of her boyfriend's crap and finally decided to leave him and as she grabbed her stuff he realized he didn't like that idea so he hit her or pushed her and she hit her head and that's why her clothes were all around her?
I love your videos by the way! ❤
Ryann Hart. So many fantastic questions! I have just one more: WHY the ring??? That probably would have taken time to work it off her hand. Just extra odd.
Definitely plausible theories!
That makes lots of sense, about her clothes scarder. I have a bad feeling who ever killed her is connected to her sisters disappearance. 😔
@@lauravalancy2521 I think they took off her ring cause they wanted to get rid of any distinctive thing that may help police identify quicker the body if it was ever found. I also believe Daniel Smith and Forrest could have been accomplices, maybe they belonged to a Child Traffic ring or something. About the older sisters, it seems they were always hanging out with the wrong people, too many suspicious individuals in that case...
Wow, I couldn't imagine losing TWO of your children 😒 My heart goes out to Bonnie 🙏❤
It's horrific. I couldn't go on living tbh
@@julz3tt3 I couldn't either. The only thing holding me back would be the age old debate on Heaven/Hell and how allegedly if you kill yourself, you go to Hell. AKA I truly wouldn't see my child again but if you dont believe in anything.. in the moment, I dont know that I could even think clearly by any means. 😒
I’m in Oklahoma and we are LITERALLY in the middle of some super severe weather here right now. Tornado warnings etc. I’ve been through many a storm and you can track the damage these things make. If there wasn’t damage to her area, it wasn’t a tornado that killed her. I’d bet money...Poor girls. Thanks Gabby for another great vid, you look beautimus as always! ❤️❤️❤️
DC4L Really?!? See that proves my point even more! 40 miles away..holy sh*t...no way in hell was a tornado involved whatsoever!! And yep, law enforcement gets overwhelmed and I can see how this fell through the cracks...even though it’s appalling to think that could happen...small town+bad weather isn’t a great combo. So sad. Well, enjoy any crap weather that may blow your way! 😬😬 We’re recovering from flooding sooooo that’s been fun 🤦🏼♀️🙈
Your videos are always so well put together and researched. You deliver every topic with respect and dignity, you are brilliant!
He dumped her things kept driving, saw he missed her other shoe after a few blocks n tossed that too is prob y the shoe was found blocks away
This whole case feels like a soap opera. It sounds so unreal, with all the twists and turns -- except it happened in my city.
This is one I hope to see solved in my lifetime. Thanks for shining a light on it.
As someone that has experienced a few tornadoes in my life, one question was the trailer damaged at all? I lived in a solidly built farm house as a child with brick interior took down some walnut trees over the years and also experienced the Springfield Ill tornado as I lived there at the time. This was about fifteen years ago but took my balcony, left me without electricity for days and wiped out many businesses. Took my dogs into the bathroom away from the balcony that had a sliding glass window. During that time you could trace the path of a tornado with precision.
The day is especially cold here, and I needed a pause from studying. It's always a blessing to have your videos on perfect timing.
Now, about the cases... It's really sad, having sisters myself I just can't think of how it must be to lose a sibling like that, not knowing really what happened to her and living the rest of your life hunted by evidence, a suspect and probably responsible for it, and most likely reliving that day, thinking about what you could have done differently to avoid all of this. And then another tragedy, meeting such a strange end... Things just don't add up, I don't believe the storm was responsible for her death. I just wish for the family to get at least some answers, some sort of justice...
Thank you for another amazing video. As always, you were so respectful and genuinely caring with both cases, I will always appreciate your hard work and dedication.
Lots of love from Chile! ❤️
Maybe both guys are involved...they might have sold her...or killed her...i hate ppl
So sad for their family. Prayers sent.
I miss your old intro ‘welcome to my strange little youtube’ 😭
Oh me too
Me too...gabby seems a little sad since she returned i hope whatevr she is dealing with resolves itself. Guess its NOMB but we are wishing for the best
Yeah.
To be clear, I'm not about to make assumptions about the entire state of Oklahoma, *BUT* damn! So many mysterious cases that have no resolution- just off the top of my head: The Jamison Family, Laura Bible & Ashley Freeman disappearance (and murder of Ashley's parents AND previous murder of her brother), and these two cases! All of these involve families, murder, disappearances & what can only be described (I'm just being honest) as complete inept OSBI/Law Enforcement. How are NONE of these cases solved? How? That's just off the top of my head. There are many others, and all of these really make me feel in my gut that something is very off in Oklahoma. I wouldn't live there if you paid me.
Jesus! You have got to be kidding me. You named a few murders that have not been solved & primarily in rural areas besides this case. The amount of cases world wide that have not been solved & to make a comment like this. Literally the most idiotic statement.
I wasted 5 years of my life in OKC. Horrid people. All of them. All around. The entire machine shop I worked at, over 20 men got pissed and threated to walk off CNC and welding jobs because the black guy in our qc shop got a raise. No shit. Cheapest employee there. Not one man had an issue with his work ethic. I kept asking until eventually some of, what I had previously considered were leaders, took me literally to the side of the shop to explain the black man shouldn't have gotten a raise because he's black. This was 2001.
I lost a 3 month old son 2 SIDS 12 years ago and I still can't get over it, it breaks my heart every single day so I really can't imagine how their mother felt having lost 2 grown children 2 mysterious causes with no answers that would for sure be enough 2 make ur heart stop
There's another mother who had two daughters murdered. Pamela Butler was a younger girl who was abducted and killed in the 90s and then years later her older sister Casey Eaton was murdered also. Both are solved but still. 💔 I've lost a 15 year old, by his own decisions but to lose two kids from murders/suspicious surroundings is 😢😢😢😢😢
Hi Gabby this is so sad that too many lovely children goes missing and still a cold case. 😿I hope one day they will find her. Lots of good wishes and good luck on your podcast 👍🏻👩🏻🏫
You should do the case of the first milk carton boy who went missing John David Goschhe went missing in 1982 and hasn’t been found to this day🙁 there’s also Eugene Martin and Kevin jay ayotte who were also on milk cartons too
I agree that the suicides in both cases are suspicious--but suspicious doesn't indicate an answer.
As for Amber's shoes, I think the perp was probably driving along, throwing her clothes out a car window at random, hoping they would not be found. I imagine it something like: shoe, drive a few blocks, shirt, drive a few blocks, darn it, I thought I threw both shoes out, well, here is as good a place as any...
As for Brandi--I have a friend who lives in OK City and was right on the border of the damage. Literally on the border--most of the houses on the other side of her street suffered significant damage like losing roofs. On her side of the street, minor damage was all. She said that the wind seemed quite high.
If Brandi was living in a trailer, then she may have known that those are really dangerous in tornadoes. You're literally safer going out and lying in a ditch in the open than you are to stay inside a trailer (or a small building on a slab, such as many convenience stores). If the wind is high, it can literally pick the clothes off a person's body but in that case, you'd expect to see the clothes strewn in a long line away from the body or not find any clothes at all. I'd love to see the official autopsy report in order to find out exactly what the basis for ruling her a storm victim was because the clothes thing seems really difficult to explain by any natural means.
GrainneDhu, so true. Smith might have been murdered and framed.
I’m from Del City Oklahoma I always heard about this because of Ray Trent and it was always believed her body was actually at Ray Trent Park. That’s what everyone always told us anyways. Ray Trent park is really big with a lot of wooded area/creeks.
Regarding Brandi... I was thinking it could also be caused by a microburst, which is an intense but small downdraft produced by a thunderstorm or rain shower. They are usually super quick and therefore can't be predicted or usually picked up on radar. This could have caused her to hit her head and make the clothing surround her. Also, her disability could have caused some head trauma, but not sure what her ailments were.
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Good job Gabby. This is so tragic. I can pretty much tell you this. I believe there are people around now who know exactly what happened to both sisters.
I'm a child of the 90s and my parents wouldn't let any of us bike alone even down the road until we were 13. Even then it was with caution, their caution has kept us 3 alive all these years. I've lived in London and you have to be alert, don't walk alone too far anywhere.
Poor Amber :( there are a couple of prime suspects I'd say. Daniel seems most likely. 😓😨 Or Joey Bishop, even Forrest Smith is creepy as hell...
If Daniel really did commit suicide then that's a clear sign of guilt. Someone who knew something may have killed him and made it look like a hanging. Joeys death is suspicious but then both of them were most certainly scumbags.
Same, my mom would never let me bike anywhere she couldnt see me. I think it depends on the maturity and life skills of the child but I think 12 is an appropriate age and only bike with friends, not alone. My mom was a Block Parent in the '70's. I dont know if they have Block Parents anymore, parents who had an offical Block Parent sign so if a child was lost or in trouble, they could go to a Block Parents house and have a safe place to stay until their parents picked them up.
I told my mom she’s lucky we’re all alive bc we were riding bikes or walking around “the block” and down alley ways since we were like 8. Looking back I can’t believe something didn’t happen to any of me or my siblings. 😳
from okc and i never heard of the case. whats crazier is that the area she lived in is always sold as “safe”
We would love to hear more from you gabbie... Looking forward for part 2, and more cases... We really appreciated what you've done and shared with us....
What if she threw her items out the window so people could try to find her?
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I thought about that too. 🤔
These Girls were all kind and pretty. I knew them all, 4 girls Although I lost track of them in later 80s I held Amber when she was a baby, last time I saw the family. Penny, Debbie I am sorry all these things happened to you girls. I'll always remember the big smile Brandie had and those big brown eyes Amber had when she was a baby, you all had those big beautiful brown eyes. I send you both blessings..
You’re doing a good thing here, Gabby, through your hard work. I’ve been binge-watching all morning.
I think Brandie might have just been doing laundry during the storm, trailers don't usually have laundry hookups so she might have been walking to a nearby facility and hit her head somehow and the storm blew her laundry basket away (they aren't always cheap so someone probably grabbed it) but her clothes got wet in the storm and were heavy enough to stay by her
Another great story, thank you for all the work you do to bring us the not so well known cases. Best regards from Portugal.
I was in Ambers 4th grade class. I remember playing at recess with her. We had the same friends it seemed. We didn't live very far from each other either. We were all devastated and shocked someone so young and vibrant just vanished and no one ever found her body 😢. I pray her and her sister get justice one day.
Love your channel! The stories/cases are so very heartbreaking. You do a wonderful job discussing these tragic stories! Thanks from Pittsburgh Pa.! ❤️
This is weird two people in the same family dying and Bonnie never knowing who did it. God Bless . Very heart breaking to hear this. . Kathy
Kidnapping: Probation
Assault for refusing sex: ticket
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What a justice system we have. Boy do I feel safe as a woman.
So awesome to have you back again! I missed your couple of live feeds hopefully I’ll have another opportunity. Thank you enjoy
Daniel Smith was most definitely involved with the disappearance of Amber. It sure doesn't take a genius to figure that out.
Realizing that they are from my hometown is so crazy. Im in complete shock knowing that this was only 3 years before I was born.
Btw because I have been through these storms, there is honestly no way that she was a storm victim. Doesn't make sense that the police would call her a storm victim especially is the storm didn't go through that town.
Thank you for providing information about Amber's case. I really enjoyed watching your video so much I subscribed to your channel. I live in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma and I remember Amber's case. I am still mystified about her case even to this day. Such a sad case about both sisters. I especially feel sorry for their deceased mother, and remaining family members that have to live with knowing they were murdered. I have not seen any videos inregard to Amber and her sister. I had no idea that years later Amber's sister would also pass away under mysterious circumstances. I greatly appreciate you presenting both of these cases which it seems to me that they have been forgotten. I am from a very small country town in Southern Oklahoma. There is three unsolved cases in Garvin County. These cases have mystified me because they are in close proximity to where I use to live. Could you present a video about Sheila Deviney, Chandra Turner, and Tom Horton. The press calls their cases the Garvin County 3. All three cases were ruled suicides, but evidence at all three crimes points to homicide, especially Sheila Deviney and Chandra Turner. Both of these girl's crime scenes were horrific, but the Garvin County sheriff's office ruled that they committed suicide. Just the crime scene alone will tell you that they were murdered. Even the Oklahoma Medical Examiner 's office had reported that Sheila and Chandra were murdered, but the Garvin County sheriff says, Not! They committed suicide. Thank you.
Once a killer threw away all the belongings at one place, and when he drove away he noticed a shoe left in the car. He then disposed of the shoe where at the spot where he noticed it still being in the car. It was a mistery as well why the shoes were so far apart, but there you are, a simple and unimportant explenation.
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I think there is a very good chance that Daniel kidnapped Amber. Without getting into to much detail I think he forced something down her throat, and she asphyxiated on the object, and her own vomit. So not wanting to drive with that smell, he removed said items, and tossed them (maybe the ring came off with the sweater). I think Forrest knew, or suspected that Daniel harmed the young girl, so he hung him in a public place to show that he was dealt with.
I wonder if the location he was found hanging is close to where he disposed of Amber?
just starting the video and your eye makeup is so stunning✨💛
Gabby!!! You are amazing. You should have WAY more subs than 108k!!!! Smart, insightful and pretty!!! Love your content!!
Presumably if they have an 'unknown' DNA profile, then it wasn't a match to any of the men mentioned, Daniel, Joey, Forrest etc...so if Daniel was involved, he must also have had an accomplice.
I hope they’re able to find the person responsible for these terrible things through the DNA profile they made
The way the the shoes and sweater was found it sounds like the perpetrator either disposed of the sweater and shoe and realized he or she had the other shoe in the car or in their house later on and got rid it of at a random location. Or they planted it that way to throw police off.
Lost, so true! But why the ring???
What if the clothes were a domestic dispute? They threw the clothes into the ditch, she goes to collect them, and the assailant provided the blunt force trauma. That could be a reason her clothes were around her.
She shares my birthday, and were from the same city. That's so crazy!
I was born in 1987 too... soo sad for this little girl 🥺
My heart goes out to this poor family. I hope they get answers.
This is a newer case . I know you like to lean towards “vintage” older cold cases or unsolved cases, but I saw this on my Apple newsfeed can you please cover Hayley Lamez and her disappearance?
Gabby, this has nothing to do with this video! Lol! I have only recently discovered your channel and have been watching several older videos on early Hollywood starlets. Do you not find it ironic how many YOUNG starlets passed away SO YOUNG? I HAD NO IDEA, until I watched your stories. You are obviously MUCH YOUNGER than I, and I am so impressed with your devotion. Possibly a reincarnated star? Yes, I believe in that. Thanks for your hard work!
Maybe it is linked to the Forever 27 conspiracy.
Love you and your videos! You always cover things so respectfully
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On the older sister, did anyone happen to find a laundry basket or a clothes line nearby? Maybe she didn't have a dryer and when the storm came by she ran out to get the clothes becuase she had forgotten them outside or something. Just a thought.
Listened three times to try a figure out what was up. Did Brandi have a car that she was carrying out an arm load of clothes, then got hit in the head with wind blown debris? Possible, but with the history of abuse, the statistics would be that domestic violence is the cause.
Great video thanks although so tragic . Love your respectful style a refreshing change . And thorough research thank you 💐🇬🇧
I want to say Gabby thank you for doing these videos anyone you does these types of videos maybe someday they will be solved and I hope that they will get caught on the ones that have done bad things that hurt people
Amazing case thank you so everything you do!!
So happy to get this notification!!!!!
Perfect timing universe lol 🙏💜🙏
Okay getting comfy under the blanket☺😉.
Thank you Gabby you always do an incredible job!!!
Really pulls on the heart strings 😢😢😢😢
Regarding Amber, I think that Daniel was lynched. I don't think it was suicide.
do you know if they searched the forest where he killed himself? was it a significant place, maybe where she was buried and he was leaving behind a clue? my guess is that both men were involved (hence one committing suicide before talking, and the other having nightmares)...and is it possible that her sister found out about her boyfriend being amber's killer before she was murdered?
This happened near where I grew up and in my grandmothers neighborhood and was my age. Still drive by the house she lived in at the time. I hope this is solved.
This two beautiful Angel's need justice!!!!!
I knew both of these girls Amber and Britney, Britney was married to my brother when they were very young, right before Joey and if I remember correctly that may have been why they split. Do you not find it odd that Joey was there when Amber was taken and called the day after Britney died to ask where she was? Bonnie replied it's too late... Do you think maybe he went to get her and was again throwing her clothes around and fought in the yard and she fell and he ran, hince the phone call after her death.
Also she has a sister Penny Barker you didn't mention, she has a lot of information if you want to dig into that you would be much better off than contacting Debbi. Debbi has always been an addict and is never in the right frame of mind, she has hooked all of those kids in that family at one time or another on the crank or crack or what ever they can get. Penny is the only one in that family that could - do either of these stories justice. I was excited to see your video I often go looking on line for Amber and that's how I ran into this story - I would do anything for the cops to open an active investigation on both of the girls. It's a cop-out that the police know for a fact it wasn't weather and still won't open an investigation - but that also gives their lazy asses one less cold case in their county... Life is not a matter of business to them and that looks to be factual.
Some women don't date guys that live right, it just don't turn them on. And drug users don't attract good guys. It's a shame the little girl did not have a chance to live life. you do not hear a mention of a father at all. I know with my daughter now I'm so watchful, the world is a scary place.
It seems more likely the shoe was with the other belongings and other shoe but it was picked up by a dog or a child and carried to the other location before it was dropped.
That was my thought.
But to be dropped off at yet another park would be very strange, right?
Seriously your videos are amazing and full of heart💗 my suspicion falls on the boyfriend as well in both cases (or Brandy's ex boyfriend) why take your life if you are innocent of blame and it sounds like a very lazy investigation in the older sister case. I live in that area where tornados but and have seen it leave one house after taking out a entire block of houses yet the scene you describe doesn't sound plausible as a victim of a storm to convenient if you ask me. My heart breaks for the family they deserve closure. Keep up the amazing work💖
I've reached out to someone in the area, someone with ties to police. Also, we should get the ME's report, you can get it for 20 bucks at the OK ME's office website. Got twitter? I'll reach out if i learn anything.
Another good case ....I love the respect you give to all your cases .....keep up the good work ....👍
Maybe the kid dropped some items hoping to have them lead her back or someone to her, they caught her doing that....
that picture of daniel😳
I wish you luck in getting a hold of a family member who could give more new details and insight on this sad double sister case. For my two cents Amber I feel like all "blue" arrows point to Mfr.Smith . The blue seats, blue rugs, and blue dash. Not to bring up the fact he hung himself. The older sister is a bit more harder like I need more info
Grabby I hope you are feeling okay you look very tried
My theory on how her shoes and sweater were scattered shows that she put up a huge fight against her abductor. When we played as kids and grabbed someone and was trying not to let go of them, if they had removable clothes like a coat or sweater, they would keep pulling their arm until it solid out of the sleeve and the tug of war continued until the remainder of the item came off and they escaped. I know, we played rough. Vomiting is also a sign of a concussion after being hit in the head. But if this big a struggled happened in a public area, it looks premeditated since it happened when traffic was light and the neighbors wouldn't notice. Shoes will also come off during a struggle or during a fast as heck run. Often times parents can't find good fitting shoes for growing kids or they simply are laced up tight enough to keep them on during a fast sprint
I was confused during the whole video with the stories. 😕
I agree. I thought right away...did he kill himself? If he was guilty he gave himelf the ULTIMATE penalty. And if he were going to do that wouldn't he want to leave a note? What did he have to lose at that point.
I'd love if you could cover the John List murders. They happened in my home town and I would love to see them covered
Can you talk about these two people missing from Oklahoma. Molly Miller-17 and Colt Haynes-21
Daniel Smith probably responsible for Amber, but too much coincidence for the other sisters death. It's a strange case gabby. Older sister was well liked and funny.
Yeah. Smith probably confided in someone and whoever killed Brandy they weren’t connected to Amber’s disappearance and likely murder. If there was a connection, like Debbie uncovered something about her sister’s disappearance, then I don’t know. I think her sister’s disappearance affected her hard. Terrible for the mom to lose two daughters.
Was Brandi’s boyfriend at the time of Ambers death in jail when Brandi was murdered? He’s really the only connection between the two sisters. Maybe Brandi found out he did it and killed Brandi as well.
Wow Amber would be my age ☹ so sad.... she was a pretty girl!
Could you investigate Brighid Luckett? i’ve recently seen her on the Missing and Exploited Children page, she’s been gone since december 7th, 2020 and there’s just two pictures of her, i investigated a bit and i just found out that when she went missing, she was weaing a brown sweater, a Harley Davidson, black pants, pink converse, a necklace and a small white backpack, she went missing on Woodland Hills, California when she was 15 years old, she would now be close to her 17, all of her details are on the Missing and Exploited Children page, by the way, she may had ran away or already been found, but if you have info i’d appreciate it, i just wonder what could had happened to her since she looked so young and i couldn’t find more about her, and also you should investigate another children who disappeared around the same dates (from December 5th to December 20)
This one is very interesting...
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Great cases. So wonderful you found this connection. Makes for an interesting take on both cases.
This is one very tragic story. In my opinion, a very dysfunctional family. Yes bad things happen to good people all the time. However people do gravitate to what they are familiar with. If that is domestic violence .. psych 101 theory? Yes. Look at any language any culture thousands of miles and as many years apart. Yet identical pearls of wisdom can be found across years and miles as human nature is human nature. The simplest answers are generally the correct answers!
Amazing great channel , new cases , thanxs pretty lady for take care of those missing cases
I honestly love your channel because since I was small.... Well
I was weird
And when I was 11 I started hearing about cases and it honestly made me really intrested
My first case I actually started getting into it and started researching was when I was 11 and it was the black Dahlia or Elizabeth short
Then I just started watching more and more case videos about like Ted Bundy and the Texas massacre
I just find your videos or case videos in general intresting
^ I'm not a serial killer, I swear😂💀
You cover this case so professionally thank you. I questioned why Smith took his life and came up with two different reasons: 1] he did it out of guilt as he had killed Amber or 2] he was protecting someone else who had killed Amber, possibly Rice or even one of her sisters
Or he was murdered
@@lauravalancy2521 I would agree with you on that point
As for poor Brandy, she obviously was traumatized as a direct result of what happened to her sister. Because of her lifestyle she was marginalized and thats as unreasonable as it is cruel. People that are substance abusers, especially those who cant maintain stable housing,are quite often tortured souls whose horrific life stories are with them all the time, yet society treats them as disposable. Thats never ok, it could be you or your loved one.
I might need to become a Patreon since I find the sad and horrific case of Sylvia Likens interesting 🤗😢😢💗💗 love your work.
Brandy could have been in the path of a micro wind tunnel. It’s like a small tornado that touches down and dissipates into the air.
Both of these deaths have overtones of kidnapping and sex trafficking in them, especially scatter of clothing randomly around the victim or in geographically separated area. Daniel's death sounds like he was a confidant of these kidnappers and they staged his death to look like a suicide because he was a 'loose end'. But I am speculating at this point.
Dana Moore, I fully agree. Their disrobing Amber at the beginning sounds extremely practiced. I was also wondering about Bonnie... she made that call in front of those creeps? Maybe she sold Amber and told them where she’d be?
@@lauravalancy2521 that's uncalled for. I'm the oldest sister of Amber and my mom would never sale my sister and if you payed attention to the story you'd realize they weren't there when call was made. That's what this girl was trying to say is that the two guys were lying. My mom knew who was at the house when the call was made. If you knew my mom and Amber's closeness you'd never make that statement.
This is also Amber's sister ... get your facts straight b4 u make a comment like that !!!
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Could you plz cover the case on the woman who's remains were found on I65 in Tennessee
You can see on DJ,s face he was evil.
I keep thinking... what if.. just what if.. brandy got into an argument with her boyfriend.. decided to move out.. he got angry and then took it out on her.