The first two videos in this series is what got me from 300ft to 400ft and to a tremendously better understanding of form, momentum shift and throwing mechanincs. Thank you so much. I've stayed with the first 2 vids for like 3 months time to move on
Loopghost, you are helping me so much In my rebuild. These are some of the best training videos out there. I feel like I have a professional instructor.
Once again , as a physical therapist who deals with athletes and how to make their activities more efficient and biomechanically sound , I could not agree more with your approach. The plant... opposite action/ reaction...weight transfer... beautifully executed... thank you
DUDE!!! In the field yesterday, I was concentrating on this in particular. Trying to put that forward momentum into my spin w/o any of that momentum pushing my body forward. After about 3hrs, I was feeling a new soreness in my inner legs (mainly my plant leg) with the tendon near the crotch area. Pulling straight through the hit box. I was getting 30 to 40 feet further. It's hard to keep all that momentum from continuing forward rather than the rotation on the plant foot. Thanks for all the help, Jason.
Again, I'm not Rodger, but this is me. My problems are this and collapsing my frame. I describe it as my body can't catch up to my arm. If I ever get my lower body to contribute to my drive, this game is going to become a whole lot more fun.
nice, thx for a good explanation ☺️ keep it up. btw. i practice with the right side hip turning back and the left leg will lift automatic, before i rotated the left side hip forward, and it feels more powerful using the right hip more balace and a bit more compact sving, thx for your insight ☺️
Awesome... As always, a gold mine of information! I practiced some standstill/one step throws into a tarp in the backyard the other day, trying to incorporate what I've learned from you--and testing out with an actual throw the feeling of engaging the hips, which I feel like your part 2 video unlocked for me, and getting that weight over the front foot, as well as trying to reach out instead of back (I may still have to emphasize elbow leading, but I think that part is already better--and i need to keep thinking about pressing out as you said as you come through). I didn't feel as much soreness in my shoulder, like I usually do after throwing, so I took this as a good sign, that I'm not actually pulling the shoulder ahead so much but getting more into the frame of the power pocket (I hope!)
How can Roger get consistency when he's not even looking at the target? At 1:18 when he's making the x-step it looks like he's looking at the ground instead of the target. There's a time in the reach back where your eyes will momentarily be pulled of it but he doesn't appear to be looking at it at all.
As with all swing changes, he's working on a few items per session. Sometimes, we don't need to worry about where our eyes are - when the bigger issue is developing the big ticket items. Down the line we can worry about keeping eyes on a target.
And as long as we stay on our line...we don't even need to look at our target except when lining up the shot before beginning the X-step. I've seen Patrick Brown look me in the eye while pulling through on a drive, proving to me it's not necessary.
@@jerdonclar8655 Pretty bad advice and wrong according to just about every top professional. You should be looking at the target for as long as possible until your shoulder turn moves your head off it. Even then, your eyes should shift to the right to get back on the intended line as quickly as possible as you pull through. I don't see players throwing sidearm who aren't looking at the target. If it isn't necessary, why do all players throwing sidearm look at the target?
@@danlewis1885 I don't think you're getting my point...I'm not saying to not focus on the target at all...it's about staying on line. And its not advice, it's about understanding to use your "mind's eye", of course we focus on a target best we can. The point is about form. When a batter hits the ball, they don't look to where they want the ball to go, they keep their eye on the ball and focus on the swing...it is similar in DG.
hey bro, can you please explain the crush the can. I've already watched seabas22 videos several times. I just dont understand the way and timing of slamming the heel down. Do you just slamming the heel down, then start moving, or are you kinda your back leg to slam heel down. it just makes no sense to just slam heel, then start moving. help please! thanks
i.makeagif.com/media/3-19-2017/QHHBT9.gif Watch how the plant foot's compression (toe down, then settling into the heel) is done before the disc initiates moving forward. If you were to imagine a coke can under your heel - you want to fully crush it / commit to the plant leg before the down swing starts.
Loopghost, is there anyway we can have an opportunity to have you review our form? I'd love to have you help me with my backhand. I've been playing for almost 10 years and still haven't gotten it down! As always, love your videos!!
I'm trying to consolidate all the lessons I've taught and learned myself through this series. I know it's not quite as good as having somebody break down your specific form, but I've got about one hour per week I can squeeze into disc stuff and I've tried to brain dump it into this series and work with Roger while I do it. Please accept my apologies - I wish I had a few more of me to get more stuff done.
@@loopghost Any idea on the best formwork guru who will do video form reviews? Pros or not, free or paid. I'm sure there's a few that do it, but as we've all learned from watching pros' form tip vids, not all those who perform at a high level can teach at a high level as well.
One of ezra's latest video's he talks about stepping further or shorter on your plant depending on the shot. I think it was ezra... Yeah, pretty sure it was ezra. Anyways, Some of these pro's are great at throwing, but give really bad advice that really screws up beginners. It's SOOOO hard to teach people to step smaller and plant smaller. They see the pro's with these monster steps. So that must be what to do, right? When the reality is, the camera angle is fooling you, they are staggering further, which the camera angle makes it appear wider.
Totally agree with you except for the last sentence; lots of pros do actually take monster wide throwing stances. Have a look at this vid: ruclips.net/video/u0xnDY__iS8/видео.html . Will & Paul especially have ridiculously wide stances. Still doesn't mean it's the best form component to emulate for amateurs, but it's not just camera tricks.
The first two videos in this series is what got me from 300ft to 400ft and to a tremendously better understanding of form, momentum shift and throwing mechanincs.
Thank you so much. I've stayed with the first 2 vids for like 3 months time to move on
Loopghost, you are helping me so much In my rebuild. These are some of the best training videos out there. I feel like I have a professional instructor.
Once again , as a physical therapist who deals with athletes and how to make their activities more efficient and biomechanically sound , I could not agree more with your approach. The plant... opposite action/ reaction...weight transfer... beautifully executed... thank you
Tune in next week where we visit another random place in loopghost's house. =)
DUDE!!! In the field yesterday, I was concentrating on this in particular. Trying to put that forward momentum into my spin w/o any of that momentum pushing my body forward. After about 3hrs, I was feeling a new soreness in my inner legs (mainly my plant leg) with the tendon near the crotch area. Pulling straight through the hit box. I was getting 30 to 40 feet further. It's hard to keep all that momentum from continuing forward rather than the rotation on the plant foot. Thanks for all the help, Jason.
Great stuff man, I think I'm def guilty of the horse-stance. I appreciate you taking the time to focus on the lower body, that's the missing element!
The long stride is something I'm still fixing. It feels so weird trying to shorten it
Again, I'm not Rodger, but this is me. My problems are this and collapsing my frame. I describe it as my body can't catch up to my arm. If I ever get my lower body to contribute to my drive, this game is going to become a whole lot more fun.
been wondering if doing this was wrong(wide last step) thanks for clearing this up
You did a great job... And it works for me to
nice, thx for a good explanation ☺️ keep it up.
btw. i practice with the right side hip turning back and the left leg will lift automatic, before i rotated the left side hip forward, and it feels more powerful using the right hip more balace and a bit more compact sving, thx for your insight ☺️
Awesome... As always, a gold mine of information! I practiced some standstill/one step throws into a tarp in the backyard the other day, trying to incorporate what I've learned from you--and testing out with an actual throw the feeling of engaging the hips, which I feel like your part 2 video unlocked for me, and getting that weight over the front foot, as well as trying to reach out instead of back (I may still have to emphasize elbow leading, but I think that part is already better--and i need to keep thinking about pressing out as you said as you come through). I didn't feel as much soreness in my shoulder, like I usually do after throwing, so I took this as a good sign, that I'm not actually pulling the shoulder ahead so much but getting more into the frame of the power pocket (I hope!)
That's awesome to hear! letting the motion do the work sure is easier on the body!
@@loopghost for sure! Thanks!
How can Roger get consistency when he's not even looking at the target? At 1:18 when he's making the x-step it looks like he's looking at the ground instead of the target. There's a time in the reach back where your eyes will momentarily be pulled of it but he doesn't appear to be looking at it at all.
As with all swing changes, he's working on a few items per session. Sometimes, we don't need to worry about where our eyes are - when the bigger issue is developing the big ticket items. Down the line we can worry about keeping eyes on a target.
And as long as we stay on our line...we don't even need to look at our target except when lining up the shot before beginning the X-step. I've seen Patrick Brown look me in the eye while pulling through on a drive, proving to me it's not necessary.
@@jerdonclar8655 Pretty bad advice and wrong according to just about every top professional. You should be looking at the target for as long as possible until your shoulder turn moves your head off it. Even then, your eyes should shift to the right to get back on the intended line as quickly as possible as you pull through. I don't see players throwing sidearm who aren't looking at the target. If it isn't necessary, why do all players throwing sidearm look at the target?
@@danlewis1885 I don't think you're getting my point...I'm not saying to not focus on the target at all...it's about staying on line. And its not advice, it's about understanding to use your "mind's eye", of course we focus on a target best we can. The point is about form. When a batter hits the ball, they don't look to where they want the ball to go, they keep their eye on the ball and focus on the swing...it is similar in DG.
hey bro, can you please explain the crush the can. I've already watched seabas22 videos several times. I just dont understand the way and timing of slamming the heel down. Do you just slamming the heel down, then start moving, or are you kinda your back leg to slam heel down. it just makes no sense to just slam heel, then start moving. help please! thanks
i.makeagif.com/media/3-19-2017/QHHBT9.gif
Watch how the plant foot's compression (toe down, then settling into the heel) is done before the disc initiates moving forward. If you were to imagine a coke can under your heel - you want to fully crush it / commit to the plant leg before the down swing starts.
Loopghost, is there anyway we can have an opportunity to have you review our form? I'd love to have you help me with my backhand. I've been playing for almost 10 years and still haven't gotten it down! As always, love your videos!!
I'm trying to consolidate all the lessons I've taught and learned myself through this series. I know it's not quite as good as having somebody break down your specific form, but I've got about one hour per week I can squeeze into disc stuff and I've tried to brain dump it into this series and work with Roger while I do it. Please accept my apologies - I wish I had a few more of me to get more stuff done.
@@loopghost Any idea on the best formwork guru who will do video form reviews? Pros or not, free or paid. I'm sure there's a few that do it, but as we've all learned from watching pros' form tip vids, not all those who perform at a high level can teach at a high level as well.
Are you in KS? Would love to meet up for a lesson. Saw an interview you did w Danny and he is Emporia so I didn't know if you were out here or not?
No, I’m based in Denver. Have to hold off on in person lessons until I’m vaccinated.
One of ezra's latest video's he talks about stepping further or shorter on your plant depending on the shot.
I think it was ezra...
Yeah, pretty sure it was ezra.
Anyways,
Some of these pro's are great at throwing, but give really bad advice that really screws up beginners.
It's SOOOO hard to teach people to step smaller and plant smaller. They see the pro's with these monster steps. So that must be what to do, right?
When the reality is, the camera angle is fooling you, they are staggering further, which the camera angle makes it appear wider.
Totally agree with you except for the last sentence; lots of pros do actually take monster wide throwing stances. Have a look at this vid: ruclips.net/video/u0xnDY__iS8/видео.html . Will & Paul especially have ridiculously wide stances. Still doesn't mean it's the best form component to emulate for amateurs, but it's not just camera tricks.
What is that video of Paige so I can watch and listen to her?
ruclips.net/video/2lvXcIcNGgs/видео.html
@@loopghost thank you! And thank you for these videos! They are very helpful