I think his core problem is still Lightning Lord, follow up attack characters are all based on how frequent their attacks are, JY being the only exception really stands out in a bad way despite having the strongest follow up attack in the game, LL at best only gets an attack in once per cycle and very, very rarely (like winning the lottery has higher odds) do you get scenarios where you manage to sneak in two LL per cycle. Simply put any future unit that speeds up summons or better yet advance them will make JY shoot up in performance as it might allow two LL per cycle. So as someone who’s owned him since day 1 of his banner, he can get you by, but LL’s core problem is what holds him back
jing has a big problem basically his damage cant be sped up at all as his lightning lord speed is always tied up and un speedable. he would benefit from 2.x kits that tend to overcap talents stacks, or something to fasten his lightning lord
The core problem for JY is that he's a 1.0 character. 1. No over cap mechanic for LL, so if you already have 10/10 stack it's useless to have more turn for JY. 2. LL having a cap spd (no action advance or speed manipulation outside of increasing their spd upto 130) means that JY dmg has a cap. Not a problen in the past but as hoyo keeps increasing enemies HP pool, JY needs much more investment compared to before. Keep in mind that JY is already a high investment character to perform well (LL needing only 1 action to clear a floor) 3. Low amount of self buff, low multipliers, and not great eidolons. 4. Male unit. Watch hoyo have a summon FUA female dps that doesn't have this weakness in their kit (topaz and jade doesn't count as they're sub dps not a hypercarry like JY) /s Honestly if hoyo just give LL a 100% action adv by reaching 10 stack, JY would be a great unit. It won't be OP but its hoyo so lmao. Fsn collab will bring buffs to old unit trust (strengthening quest) :cope:
His multipliers aren't that low IMO. He specializes in AoE waves, but when his FuA attacks just one enemy it's a 660% multiplier, which is quite high, but as you said his self-buffing is very poor. He has 45 cv on his entire kit, and that's it. It does mean that any buffs on him are less diluted, so any newer supports that somehow have even stronger multipliers than the current harmony trio of Sparkle, Ruan Mei, and Robin will further enhance his kit. I highly doubt that the LL spd cap will be for long, as in the Galactic Baseballer event we saw summons getting fixed spd bonuses, indicating when more summon units are released that there is a possibility of a summon buffing unit.
If Jing Yuan had 100% action advance on his LL it would actually fix so many problems. He would be a really good character then. Now days it is not unusual to kill off most of the enemy waves before LL ever gets to move so you overstack his LL by 20 or something. LL being so slow hurts him a lot on the super fast damage meta. He still does well in PF against lightning weak enemies because LL is much less important there and is a smaller fraction of his total damage output. What is even more sad is that when that fully buffed LL finally falls it does about as much damage or less than my Firefly just doing her skill attacks. Him being a 1.0 character means he has built in disadvantages to 'balance' him but modern characters threw balance out the window and they just have power with no downsides.
It is funny . I have his LC not Jingyuan himself . Its very good for Herta & Himeko . I will do same things for Clara and get Yunli LC . This is a few signature LC that work well with the user that is not intended .
I saw a drawing and ir was a funny comic where jing yuan goes "wake up lightning baby" with a scared face and lightning lord is in pajamas eating potato chips and it's in a cute chili style with a screenshot of the lord right under 0 cycle icon
The comments are so funny. ‘He’s bad cause you can’t speed up his fua’ this is literally only an issue if you’re trying to 0 cycle. His damage is so high now that even if he only got one attack per cycle, it IS still enough to clear.
My Jing Yuan hits 500-600k consistently so Im not really that bothered. Current Team Setup: Sparkle, JingYuan, Robin, Aventurine (All E0S1) JingYuan Stats: 70/230
@@melinxe3428 There's just too much crit damage lol. Im always sitting at 92/410 cr cd in every battle in the overworld (Moc, AS, PF). It's just absurd. Looking forward to getting his E1 and Sparkle's E2. I've got a friend with an E2 Sparkle and my damage skyrocketed to 800-900k.
@@HakazeJeybi ugh wish i could pull for sparkle eidolons this rerun but i want to pull for fei xiao. now i have to find someone with an e2 sparkle to test it out myself lol
I have a love-hate relationship with this guy. I love him because he looks amazing but hate him because of his kit and overall damage. Heck, i pulled his light cone. Got Sparkle. Build Tingyun with Planetary rendezvous. Farmed the hell out of ashbalazing to give him 70 crit and 170 crit damage. Which of course will still be buffed by Sparkle. Pulled Fu Xuan. Yet, after doing all that. I still can't use him to clear MOC. Good thing i have acheron and premium FU team. But still love you General.
I am in the same boat. I want him to be good so bad,but he can barely finish MOC and AS and often ,while my E0S1 Acheron is a safe choice for MOC and AS. I also dont know if any support can buff him ,only if the support advances Follow Up attacks ,that would be huge for him.
Jingyuan is not even that bad in both PF and MOC, But in this PF cycle he is one of my best unit. I used him PF Stage 4 First half with Herta and got 34k points. Im a complete F2P with E0S0 Jing, E6S0 Herta and E0S0 Robin
Have him E0S0.75cr/175cd S5 Peaceful day. Team are E0S0 sparkle acenturine and E6 Tingyun. Carried me throughout the game. Never regretted one bit for pulling this mf. He’s a jack of all trades. Used him in PF, MOC, SU, AS, and farming calx. The only reason I’m able to clear PF to free up the other half for herta himeko. He benefits from all blessings and MOC/PF buffs unless it’s dot. Used him this MOC first half and he took 5 cycles. Used Archeron E0S1 on second half and took 4 cycles. Pretty good by my standards since my Jing is pretty average.
The main reason I pulled on his banner was for Tingyun. Not him. I happened to get him so I used him. He was ok for a while because it was either him or 4 star characters. I never got Seele.
I have missed every single banner of jing yuan and it is so infuriating because i love him and honestly i like his character desgin and want him for that i already have a few great dmg dealers
I saved from day 1 to get him, my first limited character. I really like his character and want to keep using him. I’ve been getting the external buffs. Built Tingyun, Pulled HuoHuo, then Ruan Mei, Sparkle and Jin Yuan LC (lost the 75/25 on his first banner). Had to skip Robin. Farmed multiple sets when a new better one was released. Didn’t pull Acheron since I might have been too lazy to go for Jin 😅 He’s not perfect but completely viable. I hope you could stack more than 10 levels on Lightning Lord.
btw there are 1 forgotten planar set for PF that everybody has forgotten and in my opinion this set is best for jade herta and other erudition chars for pf, Sigonia. This set is very good bc it gives 40 crit damage for just killing 10 enemies. In pure fiction 10 enemies is nothing so it will be just 40 crit damage from nothing
yes but ppl prefer the one that pairing same path cause what is crit dmg if you can't crit. also duran is in same faming mine as firefly set the new damage dealer
I kinda shoot myself in the foot when starting this game because JY was rerunning and Acheron was coming up. By that point I reached the Xianzhou arc, I met him and saw the dude was a badass chill general with a stand so of course I pulled for him. Needless to say it wasn't the most optimal idea since I benched him when reaching the endgame due the lack of good supports and relics. I still love using him though, I think If you don't pull for character you like might as well uninstall the game. Hopefully Hoyo does something about LL because he'll always have a place in my heart (and teams).
his problem: apart from lightning lord follow up, there's nothing else anymore. no dots, no enhanced break effects, you can't speed up the process. i wished for his light cone, but i use acheron instead.
Jing is my first limited five star, and now he is stuck at level seventy, one on hand i want to build him one the other i have archeron and kafka and no topaz or jade
Topaz isn't even that great for him until around E1S1 and Jade is exclusively for Pure Fiction. His best teams still use Tingyun plus one out of Robin/Sparkle/Ruan Mei.
What do the ppl in this comment section have against the goat 😭 I always wanted Jing Yuan- he got me into the game, and he's one of the only husbandos I'm missing. Unfortunately I missed his first banner, and his rerun happened while I was saving for my favorite character, Aventurine I might get him one day, and even though he likely won't see much use on my account, I really like him and I'd be happy to have him
@@ScaryYokai What point? Not every decision needs to be logical. This is a game, and it's supposed to be fun. If fun for them is to pull for husbandos, even if they're gonna bench him in the future, then let them. I pulled argenti cause he is pretty and I know it's stupid but I absolutely loved his playstyle cause it's fun spamming ult over and over again to deal damage. There are multiple ways to enjoy the game and have fun. Treat it like work and it's gonna be unenjoyable and it'll feel like a duty/chore more than a game.
Lmao you don’t even have him but you ask why people think he’s bad. Why don’t you work on getting him lil bro before you pretend like you know what it’s like to have him. No one’s talking badly about his aesthetics - his kit is ass and needs to be reworked - but more than likely Hoyo will sell you the solution to your problem because money matters and they know you and others will sell out for it.
my most reliable team is jing yuan aventurine robin sparkle and gosh they work so well together no one can stop me from appreciating this team it's most easy to build yet stable with numbers and rotations team ever
Ok a person’s comment on “summon’s speed” kinda gave me an idea. Remember that event where you get shit tons of summons and buffs to make them work? That’s like a secret test to make them potential future characters’ kit! (Like for example very soon we’ll get Lingsha with a summon in her kit) Now imagine a character who can buff the speed of summons, or like advance the whole team’s summons (like Robin but it’s Numby) That’ll be so busted and like Summon meta, and it’ll overlap with Jingyuan and follow-up unit cause the Lord is both counted as a separate summon but also follow up attack Same case with Kafka where her niche is DoT; but on this update, i can actually pair her very well with Himeko Robin Aven in a follow up team to clear the 3 Puppets thingy like Kafka has a follow up attack that refreshes every turn; himeko have that small Dot in her kit; and Robin buffing attack will increase the DoT too. Like i can kind of see these underlying secret synergy Hoyo has in mind for future characters where they have more than one niche built into their kit. Also, did you know that Kafka’s skill gives Jade 4 stacks instead of the normal 3? Like idk if my game glitched or anything but even if not, Kafka’s synergy with Jade is also really good on stages that i pair them up. Frequent attack and great AoE and all. Like this is a Kafka’s supremacy yapping comment at this point but. We’ll see if my comment age well. I’m so excited for interesting and unique characters in the future.
jing yuan never looses he's the better investment in any situation and can cover any content and only needs a sparkle or ay other speed harmony unit to maximize his potential but still feels comfy even without them. never imagined to say this but my IL and jingliu could never without their signature lightcones
Most buffed but still sucks Edit : since the replies look like they don't agree with me, I'm gonna explain. Jing yuan main problem isn't his lack of dmg, it's the fact that his dmg is fully back loaded without any way to make it faster, since lightning lord isn't affected by speed buffs and has a set speed. That is what hold him back the most. No matter how great his support may be in the future, that won't be able to fix this issue, which is why I said he sucks. I know that "suck" may be excessive, but hsr is about doing dmg fast and he can't do that.
Garbage 5 star character. Im doing my best to make him work but he's dead weight in most every cycle scenario. FUA: LL is trash. And since most FuA blessings rely on frequent FuA instead of just one big number he ends up being shit. Ult blessings: His ult has shit damage. DoT: he's just not DoT. Slow. Low scalings. Dumbest mechanic in the game ever. As a version 1.0 character Seele is still miles ahead of him even tho she's getting pretty underestimated herself. JY is bad at PF. Bad at MoC. Bad at AS.
If only his lightning lord was instant like a regular follow up, it would be even okay if the damage was nerfef a bit. The 10 stacks would be for damage increase instead of speeding up the lightning lord. Sure it would make him less unique and kinda plain in the sea of follow up dps but it makes him more reliable and easy to use.
My General is legit. He's built pretty well and I have his Sig cone. He's 3480 atk, 78 crit rate 189 crit dmg 108 speed. I'd say above average build and he still can complete most things. He's a char to have fun in sim universe is how I see it now. Always have a place in my heart being my 1st limited.
Not that great tbh, LL sometimes atk after the enemies shields getting back up. His Ult and E Break Gen also not the best. Also from my experience playing break team with not break characters (Topaz,Ratiom,HImeko,Herta) is just to build crit and speed just like normal. HMC and RM already gives so much BE and changing the unit to fully BE sometimes resulting to the same dmg or in so many cases even lower.
Oh yeah 10 stacks LL does a good chunk of toughness damage. 10 stacks should do a total of 450 toughness if there are at least 3 enemies. That's about 4 Xueyi ults, or 15 basic attacks.
Actually make a another version of him like Dhil That directly interacts with his kit (it's literally Honkai) But since he's male unit so I don't they would
I missed robin and sparkle, just to get ruan mei or at least firefly saved all my pulls for that only to not get either one 😞😞😞 im not gonna lie i play a lot less since that happend
Yeah I regret pulling for him. That’s why I stopped pulling for male characters after Luocha since females tend to be better in HSR compared to Genshin
@@vincikeeper1581 until now most female characters are kinda broken Especially the harmony ones. This may be because the female and male ratio lean waaay too much towards females characters
I got him and I like him,but he is still not that good. Why would you use him over Acheron, who is much easier to build and more consitent. Ofcourse if he is your favorite thats another thing. But I would not recommend to pull for him ,especialy now that we have Acheron who is also a Lighting DPS and better than him in every way.
Sadly this is just the fate of 1.x characters, especially as early as he is. Im more impressed hes able to keep up better than Blade or (sometimes) Seele tbh
Even in this Ascended Shadow with 2 matching weakness, even with E1S1 Topaz, tingyun+robin+huohuo is much, much more reliable for me than tingyun+topaz+huohuo
![[2.3 HSR] Aeons Come in Pairs - A Honkai Star Rail Theory](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/iMRtiNQHmQo/mqdefault.jpg)
Every update literally Jing Yuan buff
Lightning Lord : 🧑🦽
Jing eats the main course while Blade only eats the crumbs
hoyo should make lighting lord act immediately if jigyuan get 10 stacks
I think his core problem is still Lightning Lord, follow up attack characters are all based on how frequent their attacks are, JY being the only exception really stands out in a bad way despite having the strongest follow up attack in the game, LL at best only gets an attack in once per cycle and very, very rarely (like winning the lottery has higher odds) do you get scenarios where you manage to sneak in two LL per cycle. Simply put any future unit that speeds up summons or better yet advance them will make JY shoot up in performance as it might allow two LL per cycle.
So as someone who’s owned him since day 1 of his banner, he can get you by, but LL’s core problem is what holds him back
jing has a big problem basically his damage cant be sped up at all as his lightning lord speed is always tied up and un speedable. he would benefit from 2.x kits that tend to overcap talents stacks, or something to fasten his lightning lord
The core problem for JY is that he's a 1.0 character.
1. No over cap mechanic for LL, so if you already have 10/10 stack it's useless to have more turn for JY.
2. LL having a cap spd (no action advance or speed manipulation outside of increasing their spd upto 130) means that JY dmg has a cap. Not a problen in the past but as hoyo keeps increasing enemies HP pool, JY needs much more investment compared to before. Keep in mind that JY is already a high investment character to perform well (LL needing only 1 action to clear a floor)
3. Low amount of self buff, low multipliers, and not great eidolons.
4. Male unit. Watch hoyo have a summon FUA female dps that doesn't have this weakness in their kit (topaz and jade doesn't count as they're sub dps not a hypercarry like JY) /s
Honestly if hoyo just give LL a 100% action adv by reaching 10 stack, JY would be a great unit. It won't be OP but its hoyo so lmao.
Fsn collab will bring buffs to old unit trust (strengthening quest) :cope:
His multipliers aren't that low IMO. He specializes in AoE waves, but when his FuA attacks just one enemy it's a 660% multiplier, which is quite high, but as you said his self-buffing is very poor. He has 45 cv on his entire kit, and that's it. It does mean that any buffs on him are less diluted, so any newer supports that somehow have even stronger multipliers than the current harmony trio of Sparkle, Ruan Mei, and Robin will further enhance his kit. I highly doubt that the LL spd cap will be for long, as in the Galactic Baseballer event we saw summons getting fixed spd bonuses, indicating when more summon units are released that there is a possibility of a summon buffing unit.
If Jing Yuan had 100% action advance on his LL it would actually fix so many problems. He would be a really good character then. Now days it is not unusual to kill off most of the enemy waves before LL ever gets to move so you overstack his LL by 20 or something. LL being so slow hurts him a lot on the super fast damage meta.
He still does well in PF against lightning weak enemies because LL is much less important there and is a smaller fraction of his total damage output. What is even more sad is that when that fully buffed LL finally falls it does about as much damage or less than my Firefly just doing her skill attacks.
Him being a 1.0 character means he has built in disadvantages to 'balance' him but modern characters threw balance out the window and they just have power with no downsides.
If he was a 2.x unit he would have his max stack halved to 5 and his multipliers doubled. Plus the immediate action on full stack, AND overcap lol
Jade gets to overcap stacks, meanwhile JY needs to restart.
You don't need to put /s on number 4 😔
FuA characters are all about high dps not high damage per screenshot so JY LL being extremely slow is his biggest downfall as a FuA character
It is funny . I have his LC not Jingyuan himself . Its very good for Herta & Himeko . I will do same things for Clara and get Yunli LC . This is a few signature LC that work well with the user that is not intended .
The Jade's LC is perfect with QQ, right?
@@Guilherme_Oliveira_ Idk my Qinque doesn't always proc follow up Atk . I rarely use her nowdays
I use gepards LC on aventurine I just think the taunt allows me to get more follow up attacks compared to his signature lc
@@joshhayy6861 yup wish I had one of this . Aventurine LC is more to damage support
@@Guilherme_Oliveira_best in slot, but the FUA part banks on the 24% from autarky
*insert image of lightning lord below 0 cycle icon*
I saw a drawing and ir was a funny comic where jing yuan goes "wake up lightning baby" with a scared face and lightning lord is in pajamas eating potato chips and it's in a cute chili style with a screenshot of the lord right under 0 cycle icon
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@@dazzle810 commenting so i can get notified if this gets linked 🥺
@@dbappio I hope my reply doesn't get deleted tho
@@dbappio ok it did let me resend
The comments are so funny. ‘He’s bad cause you can’t speed up his fua’ this is literally only an issue if you’re trying to 0 cycle. His damage is so high now that even if he only got one attack per cycle, it IS still enough to clear.
My Jing Yuan hits 500-600k consistently so Im not really that bothered.
Current Team Setup: Sparkle, JingYuan, Robin, Aventurine (All E0S1)
JingYuan Stats: 70/230
same team but i have e1 robin instead of her LC and i agree he hits hard with this set up. plus, his ulti and skill also do a lot of damage.
@@melinxe3428 There's just too much crit damage lol. Im always sitting at 92/410 cr cd in every battle in the overworld (Moc, AS, PF). It's just absurd. Looking forward to getting his E1 and Sparkle's E2.
I've got a friend with an E2 Sparkle and my damage skyrocketed to 800-900k.
@@HakazeJeybi ugh wish i could pull for sparkle eidolons this rerun but i want to pull for fei xiao. now i have to find someone with an e2 sparkle to test it out myself lol
I’m using JY, TY, Asta and Aventurine rn, I’m gonna pull for sparkle but idk whether I replace TY or Asta
@@conradCOYS replace asta
I have a love-hate relationship with this guy. I love him because he looks amazing but hate him because of his kit and overall damage. Heck, i pulled his light cone. Got Sparkle. Build Tingyun with Planetary rendezvous. Farmed the hell out of ashbalazing to give him 70 crit and 170 crit damage. Which of course will still be buffed by Sparkle. Pulled Fu Xuan. Yet, after doing all that. I still can't use him to clear MOC. Good thing i have acheron and premium FU team. But still love you General.
I am in the same boat.
I want him to be good so bad,but he can barely finish MOC and AS and often ,while my E0S1 Acheron is a safe choice for MOC and AS.
I also dont know if any support can buff him ,only if the support advances Follow Up attacks ,that would be huge for him.
King Yuan is my main character and I still use him to easy clear end game content along my Sparkle and Robin. It's freelo and he does GAGA damage.
Jingyuan is not even that bad in both PF and MOC, But in this PF cycle he is one of my best unit. I used him PF Stage 4 First half with Herta and got 34k points. Im a complete F2P with E0S0 Jing, E6S0 Herta and E0S0 Robin
Have him E0S0.75cr/175cd S5 Peaceful day. Team are E0S0 sparkle acenturine and E6 Tingyun. Carried me throughout the game. Never regretted one bit for pulling this mf. He’s a jack of all trades. Used him in PF, MOC, SU, AS, and farming calx. The only reason I’m able to clear PF to free up the other half for herta himeko. He benefits from all blessings and MOC/PF buffs unless it’s dot. Used him this MOC first half and he took 5 cycles. Used Archeron E0S1 on second half and took 4 cycles. Pretty good by my standards since my Jing is pretty average.
And Kafka is just better, while being better also ads dots...
The main reason I pulled on his banner was for Tingyun. Not him. I happened to get him so I used him. He was ok for a while because it was either him or 4 star characters. I never got Seele.
you have the extremely similar stats + exact same team w me lmao
I have missed every single banner of jing yuan and it is so infuriating because i love him and honestly i like his character desgin and want him for that i already have a few great dmg dealers
People Said: "Jingyuan always getting buff just See"
Lightning Lord: MIMIR
I saved from day 1 to get him, my first limited character.
I really like his character and want to keep using him.
I’ve been getting the external buffs. Built Tingyun, Pulled HuoHuo, then Ruan Mei, Sparkle and Jin Yuan LC (lost the 75/25 on his first banner). Had to skip Robin. Farmed multiple sets when a new better one was released.
Didn’t pull Acheron since I might have been too lazy to go for Jin 😅
He’s not perfect but completely viable. I hope you could stack more than 10 levels on Lightning Lord.
I am a Jing yuan main and I can say he still sucks..... But I love you general
btw there are 1 forgotten planar set for PF that everybody has forgotten and in my opinion this set is best for jade herta and other erudition chars for pf, Sigonia. This set is very good bc it gives 40 crit damage for just killing 10 enemies. In pure fiction 10 enemies is nothing so it will be just 40 crit damage from nothing
yes but ppl prefer the one that pairing same path cause what is crit dmg if you can't crit.
also duran is in same faming mine as firefly set the new damage dealer
I just realize There sigona set😭😭
I kinda shoot myself in the foot when starting this game because JY was rerunning and Acheron was coming up. By that point I reached the Xianzhou arc, I met him and saw the dude was a badass chill general with a stand so of course I pulled for him. Needless to say it wasn't the most optimal idea since I benched him when reaching the endgame due the lack of good supports and relics. I still love using him though, I think If you don't pull for character you like might as well uninstall the game. Hopefully Hoyo does something about LL because he'll always have a place in my heart (and teams).
If we ever get a supprt that advances forward the character AND summons then i see him climbing agaim
Should have had 100% Advance when full stack then he would be good
Could have been Robin but Hoyo specifically avoided that. There is no hope for JY.
@@randyjr.arsenio5624 you'll live
his problem: apart from lightning lord follow up, there's nothing else anymore. no dots, no enhanced break effects, you can't speed up the process. i wished for his light cone, but i use acheron instead.
Jing is my first limited five star, and now he is stuck at level seventy, one on hand i want to build him one the other i have archeron and kafka and no topaz or jade
Is it weird that I have lvl 80 S1 Kafka, E1S1 Acheron, and E1 Jing Yuan?
Nah
@@theenderboy7856Nah(E0 Kafka, E0S1 Acheron, E2S1 Jing Yuan)
Topaz isn't even that great for him until around E1S1 and Jade is exclusively for Pure Fiction. His best teams still use Tingyun plus one out of Robin/Sparkle/Ruan Mei.
Blud thinks he’s Dr Ratio with that team
What do the ppl in this comment section have against the goat 😭
I always wanted Jing Yuan- he got me into the game, and he's one of the only husbandos I'm missing. Unfortunately I missed his first banner, and his rerun happened while I was saving for my favorite character, Aventurine
I might get him one day, and even though he likely won't see much use on my account, I really like him and I'd be happy to have him
There will be more husbandos in the future, if you're going to bench him anyways after getting I don't see the point.
@@ScaryYokaithey like him and so they’ll get him.
That’s the main allure of gacha games, I don’t see what’s so confusing.
@@ScaryYokaiNot everyone is going to bench him even if they have stronger options. I have E0S1 Acheron and I still use my JY more even in MoC.
@@ScaryYokai What point? Not every decision needs to be logical. This is a game, and it's supposed to be fun. If fun for them is to pull for husbandos, even if they're gonna bench him in the future, then let them.
I pulled argenti cause he is pretty and I know it's stupid but I absolutely loved his playstyle cause it's fun spamming ult over and over again to deal damage. There are multiple ways to enjoy the game and have fun. Treat it like work and it's gonna be unenjoyable and it'll feel like a duty/chore more than a game.
Lmao you don’t even have him but you ask why people think he’s bad. Why don’t you work on getting him lil bro before you pretend like you know what it’s like to have him. No one’s talking badly about his aesthetics - his kit is ass and needs to be reworked - but more than likely Hoyo will sell you the solution to your problem because money matters and they know you and others will sell out for it.
King Yuan
my most reliable team is jing yuan aventurine robin sparkle and gosh they work so well together no one can stop me from appreciating this team it's most easy to build yet stable with numbers and rotations team ever
ZEE - LA not ZEE- LAY
Ok a person’s comment on “summon’s speed” kinda gave me an idea.
Remember that event where you get shit tons of summons and buffs to make them work?
That’s like a secret test to make them potential future characters’ kit!
(Like for example very soon we’ll get Lingsha with a summon in her kit)
Now imagine a character who can buff the speed of summons, or like advance the whole team’s summons (like Robin but it’s Numby)
That’ll be so busted and like Summon meta, and it’ll overlap with Jingyuan and follow-up unit cause the Lord is both counted as a separate summon but also follow up attack
Same case with Kafka where her niche is DoT; but on this update, i can actually pair her very well with Himeko Robin Aven in a follow up team to clear the 3 Puppets thingy
like Kafka has a follow up attack that refreshes every turn; himeko have that small Dot in her kit; and Robin buffing attack will increase the DoT too.
Like i can kind of see these underlying secret synergy Hoyo has in mind for future characters where they have more than one niche built into their kit.
Also, did you know that Kafka’s skill gives Jade 4 stacks instead of the normal 3? Like idk if my game glitched or anything but even if not, Kafka’s synergy with Jade is also really good on stages that i pair them up. Frequent attack and great AoE and all.
Like this is a Kafka’s supremacy yapping comment at this point but.
We’ll see if my comment age well. I’m so excited for interesting and unique characters in the future.
ngl he's bad for a emanator character but he's improving through each version
7:16 Technically you don't need another FUA unit to proc Duran. You get stacks from your own FUA. More units is better, ofc, but it's not required.
they just need to release a harmony character that only buffs summoned units
2:30 not sure about that tho, people are shitting on him bc of how bad hoyo nerfed him, he is the Trend LC but less RNG reliant
10:25 the gameplay on background emotionally hurt me.
jing yuan never looses he's the better investment in any situation and can cover any content and only needs a sparkle or ay other speed harmony unit to maximize his potential but still feels comfy even without them. never imagined to say this but my IL and jingliu could never without their signature lightcones
He certainly loses to Archeron, who does everything he does but better
Idk if this bait or straight up delulu
w/ feixiao releasing, i'm gonna laugh if they somehow introduce a support for characters w/ summons
Most buffed but still sucks
Edit : since the replies look like they don't agree with me, I'm gonna explain.
Jing yuan main problem isn't his lack of dmg, it's the fact that his dmg is fully back loaded without any way to make it faster, since lightning lord isn't affected by speed buffs and has a set speed. That is what hold him back the most. No matter how great his support may be in the future, that won't be able to fix this issue, which is why I said he sucks. I know that "suck" may be excessive, but hsr is about doing dmg fast and he can't do that.
He’s great I’m 0 cycling with him and ur not with ur Acheron
We talking about the same character buddy?
@@Lumiere192 it this a free to play jing (e0 S0) ?
@@Lumiere192Copium projection moment
@@Lumiere192stop capping also cope lil pup , jingyuan is worse than kafka & acheron lol
Unless we're getting a character that can buff summon than its hard to save him a spot for anything
If only each LL hit counted as a fua . Imagine how good that would be for Jade example
Garbage 5 star character. Im doing my best to make him work but he's dead weight in most every cycle scenario.
FUA: LL is trash. And since most FuA blessings rely on frequent FuA instead of just one big number he ends up being shit.
Ult blessings: His ult has shit damage.
DoT: he's just not DoT.
Slow. Low scalings. Dumbest mechanic in the game ever. As a version 1.0 character Seele is still miles ahead of him even tho she's getting pretty underestimated herself.
JY is bad at PF. Bad at MoC. Bad at AS.
Seelay 💀
I hate it too. But I’m biding through the video. The e is silent
@@kkadzh3625 She is pronounced like Zeela, even in game. Idk how hard it is for people to hear or they straight up skip the whole story
If only his lightning lord was instant like a regular follow up, it would be even okay if the damage was nerfef a bit. The 10 stacks would be for damage increase instead of speeding up the lightning lord.
Sure it would make him less unique and kinda plain in the sea of follow up dps but it makes him more reliable and easy to use.
My General is legit. He's built pretty well and I have his Sig cone. He's 3480 atk, 78 crit rate 189 crit dmg 108 speed. I'd say above average build and he still can complete most things. He's a char to have fun in sim universe is how I see it now. Always have a place in my heart being my 1st limited.
Go for the Break Jingyuan! Well, if the enemy is lightning weak. JY, Gallagher, Harmony MC and RM. Focus on speed and Break effect.
Not that great tbh, LL sometimes atk after the enemies shields getting back up. His Ult and E Break Gen also not the best.
Also from my experience playing break team with not break characters (Topaz,Ratiom,HImeko,Herta) is just to build crit and speed just like normal. HMC and RM already gives so much BE and changing the unit to fully BE sometimes resulting to the same dmg or in so many cases even lower.
Oh yeah 10 stacks LL does a good chunk of toughness damage.
10 stacks should do a total of 450 toughness if there are at least 3 enemies. That's about 4 Xueyi ults, or 15 basic attacks.
9:44 No, it's a light cone
See-lay made a cameo! Yaaay!
I'm a simple man. Me hear See-lay. Me happy.
Daddyuan 😍😮💨
Actually make a another version of him like Dhil
That directly interacts with his kit (it's literally Honkai)
But since he's male unit so I don't they would
I missed robin and sparkle, just to get ruan mei or at least firefly saved all my pulls for that only to not get either one 😞😞😞 im not gonna lie i play a lot less since that happend
Oh Toshi, the guy who switches his profile picture 24/7
Topaz to Sparkle to Tingyun to Robin 🤡
Is he already have rerun? I forgot. I wanted his lc for herta
all those buffs to still be dogshit
Lighting Lord fua sucks and the Jing Yuan main just won't admit it🤷. He's good as a character tho
Yeah I regret pulling for him. That’s why I stopped pulling for male characters after Luocha since females tend to be better in HSR compared to Genshin
Until Aventurine that is
What it has to do with gender, yikes
@@vincikeeper1581 until now most female characters are kinda broken
Especially the harmony ones.
This may be because the female and male ratio lean waaay too much towards females characters
@@justblue576 because there's no harmony male characters lmao. But yeah, agree, there's not enough male characters smh.
So this is Robin shills? and not about JY?
Pretty sure with this team if you change JY to Arlan you can make him strong too.
Most buff char is Himeko
I got him and I like him,but he is still not that good.
Why would you use him over Acheron, who is much easier to build and more consitent.
Ofcourse if he is your favorite thats another thing.
But I would not recommend to pull for him ,especialy now that we have Acheron who is also a Lighting DPS and better than him in every way.
I swear I could probably run a marathon as a cripple and still be faster than lightning lord without sparkle
Every patch is a jing yuan buff patch yet he is still one of the worst limited 5*s lol
Lightning Lord sucks,
And that's the main problem with JY.
After get so many buff he is still worse 5 star lightning DPS his ll still suck. he is not worth to pull or invest him 😂😂 once mid always mid
All those buffs just to be an "okay" unit.
Smh.
Sadly this is just the fate of 1.x characters, especially as early as he is. Im more impressed hes able to keep up better than Blade or (sometimes) Seele tbh
Ngl i'd rather pull him instead of boring brute ahh lame Acheron
Who the fk is Seelay
Jiaqiou after the nerfs is not a support, he is a dogshit character outside of pure fiction 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Silverwolf and pela shit on him so hard
Imagine being a 2.x character and still worse than a 4 star
Robin is not better than tingyun, robin is better than sparkle, tingyun is too valuable with DDD, Topaz + Jing is overrated because you lose tingyun
Even in this Ascended Shadow with 2 matching weakness, even with E1S1 Topaz, tingyun+robin+huohuo is much, much more reliable for me than tingyun+topaz+huohuo
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@@irena4929 real🙏
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