The two crains are basically working the same as loading container ship, they are just putting them on the ground, 7 wide and 6 high. As such a computer keeps track of the location of each container just as it does on a container ship.
for your answer for 6:05 yes the crane able to pick the larger container the operator will adjust the line and the line will expand the large, I love. the port videos pls upload more of this thanks.
This is my first time catching one of your videos, but I instantly subscribed. I love drone videos. Also, the best part of your videos is that you are confident in admitting that there are certain things you don't know and that you are asking for clarification from anyone who does. Much respect to you for that. I'm going to rewatch the intermodal facility a few times and try to figure out the location's logic. It clearly has one, and it seems incredibly efficient. I worked in three intermodal yards in NJ; South Kearny, North Bergen, and Croxton (Jersey City), and none of these seemed any where near as organized as this spot.
Thank you very much. I'm glad to hear you enjoyed the video One of the things I like about these videos is getting answers to my questions. It's not easy to find railroad answers on Google when you don't know what or how to specifically ask what you're looking for. As for the facility itself, my guess is the RR companies have decades of information on efficiency and usage, so when they design a new one, it has all that experience behind it, making it as close to perfect as a facility can be.
Such an awesome video 🤩The intermodal yard was something special to see. Perfect size for my layout to model ! Love the drone videos, and thanks for sharing !!
There's always talk in the Cincinnati area that the CC sub (and presumably south) will see more traffic with the new ties and ballast. Hopefully, that's the case.
They are in the process of building an “ inland port” in the Gainesville, GA area off of 985/365. They are building a very large truck stop at the Flowery Branch/ Oakwood, GA exit on 985, I assume in preparation for the new “port”.
You found something fascinating here, the management of the pile and incoming-outgoing must be an interesting piece of software, along with whatever RFID and automatic scanning tech they are using.
We have a micro port in Powder Springs GA, It runs 24/7 and has already out grown itself. Gainesville is getting a bigger one. The sheer volume of containers coming out of Savannah requires additional sorting up stream.
I bet these micro ports will be popping up all over given the rise of container traffic. I'm curious what they will do to the roads in the rural areas where many of them are.
CSX must really be planning on ramping up its cargo service, especially if that proposed rail canal connector in Mexico moves forward and gives cheaper access to the Atlantic Coast for Asia compared to the Panama Canal.
@@nkyrailfan the savannah port is booming. They're trying to get some of those trucks off of the road from savannah to Atlanta. A huge manufacturing center down there in Lagrange. Kia auto plant, all of the suppliers, Winchester gun manufacturing, Walmart distribution center and a ton of storage. It's expected that a lot of the containers will be going directly to the businesses in the area. There's also one in Fairburn that belongs to csx right of of hwy 29. They're upgrading the roads around it and building a huge truck stop next to the site so I'm guessing they're expecting a good bit of traffic. They're also building an Amazon warehouse near the site so a lot of the freight will be theirs too.
@atlantadigitalmedia I bet they're doing everything they can to keep as many trucks off the highways or at least keep them from running through Atlanta.
@atlantadigitalmedia lol I bet. My girlfriend worked in Atlanta for a bit and that traffic (on and off the interstates) is ridiculous. It would take her 30-40 minutes to get to work 6 miles away on surface streets through Midtown. We tried to ride MARTA as often as we could, especially to the airport.
Georgia has a number of these small intermodal yards going. The Georgia Ports authority has been on their stuff for the last 20 years. Just a massive increase in movements on every mode and they've really knocked it out of the park. Savannah is now in the top ports in the US and has been for some time. Right up there with NY/NJ, which is impressive. I think NS is actually getting ready or maybe already has setup another one of these in cooperation with the GPA. The boxes are all tracked by serial. You can log into your tracking system and find wherever it is anywhere basically on the face of the earth, for the most part. Every time it changes a mode or touches a facility, you can tell. Same thing while in transit.
Thanks for the great info. I had no idea Georgia was so active in these ports. Good for them being proactive and trying to take advantage of a strong market.
Hey! this is an absolutely wonderful video and I really enjoyed watching it! Also I noticed that you made several comments about a lack of rail traffic, that is probably due to the fact that it is a Monday, usually later in the week is when rail traffic picks up the most (Wednesday through Friday). This is likely due to the fact that certain industries may not ship over the weekend.
Thank you. I'm glad you enjoyed the video. That's something I hadn't really given much thought to. I just assume rail traffic is somewhat of a constant and not affected by individual shippers sending items later in the week after they've been produced for instance.
Suomi mainittu. Torille! Mandarory exclamation when anything remotely Finland related is mentioned or present. Those Kone cranes are made by a Finnish company. Cool piece of equipment. Oh, and a nice location to model. Very interesting. Could make a nice narrow shelf layout.
Is that a Maersk electric tractor I see at 1:01? Also 50k containers a year? When I worked at BNSF LPC we did 3300 a day! I wouldn't wish that truck traffic on anyone. If they expand that yard as planned I bet you'll see some pushback from the locals.
Not sure about the tractor but it did look rather different than the typical ones I've seen. 3300 containers a day is crazy! How many cranes did you all have to make that many lifts? The area around this facility really is in the middle of nowhere. But I can't imagine the roads could handle double the truck traffic. I'm sure the few nearby residents wouldn't be happy either.
@@nkyrailfan Maersk has been running BYD tractors around Chicago. I would love to see what driving one of those is like. I don't remember how many cranes we had at LPC, but we had something like 125 Spotter trucks. Absolute madhouse. Even though it's called Logistics Park Chicago, it's also out in the middle of nowhere. Those roads weren't meant for truck traffic like that.
@davidf2477 you weren't kidding, the LPC really is out in the middle of nowhere. That is a massive facility though! I can only imagine how busy that is.
Etowah see M541 M542 some coal trains still ethanol trains oddball work trains the port has 2 trains goes to Sav runs daily l198 l197 and some grains now where getting reroute trains cause of the clinchfield floods and nice video
I never thought about it like that, but I'd say you're exactly right. The RR companies are able to transfer that last mile delivery to a truck instead of a boxcar with these types of facilities. So, they're still getting a piece of the money, but don't have any sidings to maintain.
yeah shippers are trying to avoid the west coast ports as much as possible due the crime that's allowed to occur anymore! they find it cheaper to hit the canal and unload on the east coast because the trains don't get ransacked! those guys in the vests are there to mount the anchor pins on the double stacks and to inspect the cars the white arms on the lift cradle/bridle are there to guide and stabilize on the hook up and move as to telling the containers they're supposedly equipped with RFID tags that the lift bridle can read on the hookup! the semi trailers are probably just being stored there there's no way they'd survive being picked up the sides are no way strong enough to be used as a structural lift component they're basically a backyard shed built over a flatbed! the coal cars are probably in long term storage or waiting scrapping thanks to the lunatics running things these days although i did hear something about some being converted to smaller covered hoppers a while back!
I can only think that some kind of wireless measurement system shoves each container ID into a database for site location. The allocations are kept and the playout for cranes and trucks and trains is calculated based on location. For instance, if a container is on the bottom of a storage stack, the top containers need to be run around or moved for access. Given the nature of this complexity, facilities like this can make a lot of sense. I've always thought of how this could be optimized. I'm sure they're throwing AI on these models now that AI is everywhere. Those things that extend over the top of a container, is for alignment before pinning the top corners for lifting.
Thanks for the great info. Others have commented the containers have RFID tags that are scanned at each point throughout their journey, allowing the shipper to know where its containers are anywhere in the system. It really is incredible what they're able to do.
Wow... Corbin looks like a ghost town. I guess the coal traffic in this part of KY is down to nothing (steam coal whose cost to extract is $$). Makes one wonder if the line will be abandoned at some point in time. And when you see small trees growing between the stored coal hoppers - that is not a good sign. Probably heading for scrap at some point.
It is really depressing to see what the yard looks like. It would be great if all this track work is a sign CSX is planning on increasing traffic on the line, but I guess only time will tell.
Thanks for this video. Comment on Corbin. With all the ties snd new ballast I’m guessing FRA inspected the yard there and told CSX to maintain it or shut it down and the railroad decided to fix it.
That's interesting. I'm surprised the FRA would care so much about a yard, but it does make sense that it would want a RR to make sure everything is in safe, working order. It'd be nice if CSX could find a reason to make the yard more useful.
The two crains are basically working the same as loading container ship, they are just putting them on the ground, 7 wide and 6 high. As such a computer keeps track of the location of each container just as it does on a container ship.
Cranes.
for your answer for 6:05 yes the crane able to pick the larger container the operator will adjust the line and the line will expand the large, I love. the port videos pls upload more of this thanks.
This is my first time catching one of your videos, but I instantly subscribed. I love drone videos. Also, the best part of your videos is that you are confident in admitting that there are certain things you don't know and that you are asking for clarification from anyone who does. Much respect to you for that.
I'm going to rewatch the intermodal facility a few times and try to figure out the location's logic. It clearly has one, and it seems incredibly efficient. I worked in three intermodal yards in NJ; South Kearny, North Bergen, and Croxton (Jersey City), and none of these seemed any where near as organized as this spot.
Thank you very much.
I'm glad to hear you enjoyed the video
One of the things I like about these videos is getting answers to my questions.
It's not easy to find railroad answers on Google when you don't know what or how to specifically ask what you're looking for.
As for the facility itself, my guess is the RR companies have decades of information on efficiency and usage, so when they design a new one, it has all that experience behind it, making it as close to perfect as a facility can be.
Such an awesome video 🤩The intermodal yard was something special to see. Perfect size for my layout to model ! Love the drone videos, and thanks for sharing !!
Thank you very much.
I really do appreciate it.
I'm very glad to hear you enjoyed the video.
I live and catch in Marietta, Ga. Great video. Not many trains on the K&A but a few. I love the ambient audio.
Enjoyed watching once again and have a wonderful upcoming weekend. Steve
Thanks and enjoy the weekend as well.
@@nkyrailfan you're very welcome and thank you also.
Very enjoyable watching this video. It's a shame they aren't busier. Thank you and see you next time.
There's always talk in the Cincinnati area that the CC sub (and presumably south) will see more traffic with the new ties and ballast.
Hopefully, that's the case.
That would be a fun place to work. Its railroad related but not the histle and bustle of a main yard.
They are in the process of building an “ inland port” in the Gainesville, GA area off of 985/365. They are building a very large truck stop at the Flowery Branch/ Oakwood, GA exit on 985, I assume in preparation for the new “port”.
You found something fascinating here, the management of the pile and incoming-outgoing must be an interesting piece of software, along with whatever RFID and automatic scanning tech they are using.
We have a micro port in Powder Springs GA, It runs 24/7 and has already out grown itself. Gainesville is getting a bigger one.
The sheer volume of containers coming out of Savannah requires additional sorting up stream.
I bet these micro ports will be popping up all over given the rise of container traffic.
I'm curious what they will do to the roads in the rural areas where many of them are.
Thats probably TTX inspecting each container well. They have them in Louisville at the CSX intermodal terminal. They change brakes and wheels
Thanks for the info.
I figured something like that but wasn't sure what they may be looking for.
They're building one of these off of the CSX mainline in LaGrange, GA right now. Will be on the direct line coming from Savannah.
CSX must really be planning on ramping up its cargo service, especially if that proposed rail canal connector in Mexico moves forward and gives cheaper access to the Atlantic Coast for Asia compared to the Panama Canal.
@@nkyrailfan the savannah port is booming. They're trying to get some of those trucks off of the road from savannah to Atlanta. A huge manufacturing center down there in Lagrange. Kia auto plant, all of the suppliers, Winchester gun manufacturing, Walmart distribution center and a ton of storage. It's expected that a lot of the containers will be going directly to the businesses in the area. There's also one in Fairburn that belongs to csx right of of hwy 29. They're upgrading the roads around it and building a huge truck stop next to the site so I'm guessing they're expecting a good bit of traffic. They're also building an Amazon warehouse near the site so a lot of the freight will be theirs too.
@atlantadigitalmedia I bet they're doing everything they can to keep as many trucks off the highways or at least keep them from running through Atlanta.
@@nkyrailfan we're not mad about that at all either lol. I285 is basically a truck stop 24 hours a day
@atlantadigitalmedia lol I bet.
My girlfriend worked in Atlanta for a bit and that traffic (on and off the interstates) is ridiculous.
It would take her 30-40 minutes to get to work 6 miles away on surface streets through Midtown.
We tried to ride MARTA as often as we could, especially to the airport.
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Georgia has a number of these small intermodal yards going. The Georgia Ports authority has been on their stuff for the last 20 years. Just a massive increase in movements on every mode and they've really knocked it out of the park. Savannah is now in the top ports in the US and has been for some time. Right up there with NY/NJ, which is impressive. I think NS is actually getting ready or maybe already has setup another one of these in cooperation with the GPA.
The boxes are all tracked by serial. You can log into your tracking system and find wherever it is anywhere basically on the face of the earth, for the most part. Every time it changes a mode or touches a facility, you can tell. Same thing while in transit.
Thanks for the great info.
I had no idea Georgia was so active in these ports.
Good for them being proactive and trying to take advantage of a strong market.
A lot of ship origin containers here. Always interesting to see the variety that comes inland from seaports. 53’ traffic can get boring
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The moment I saw the thumbnail, I knew this was in Chatsworth Georgia
The container grab can expand to take larger containers.
Thank you.
caught 1827 at corbin yard the other day!
Excellent video
The crane operator can extend the carriage for the longer containers
I saw that later in the video.
That's pretty cool technology.
Spreader rack
Basically all railroads are on (PSR) Precision Scale Railroad which means longer trains and smaller yards. The classification yards are going away.
Hey! this is an absolutely wonderful video and I really enjoyed watching it!
Also I noticed that you made several comments about a lack of rail traffic, that is probably due to the fact that it is a Monday, usually later in the week is when rail traffic picks up the most (Wednesday through Friday). This is likely due to the fact that certain industries may not ship over the weekend.
Thank you.
I'm glad you enjoyed the video.
That's something I hadn't really given much thought to. I just assume rail traffic is somewhat of a constant and not affected by individual shippers sending items later in the week after they've been produced for instance.
Suomi mainittu. Torille! Mandarory exclamation when anything remotely Finland related is mentioned or present. Those Kone cranes are made by a Finnish company. Cool piece of equipment. Oh, and a nice location to model. Very interesting. Could make a nice narrow shelf layout.
Terveisiä Yhdysvalloista.
I'm glad you enjoyed the video.
I have done several videos featuring the Kone cranes.
They're very cool to see in person.
Is that a Maersk electric tractor I see at 1:01? Also 50k containers a year? When I worked at BNSF LPC we did 3300 a day! I wouldn't wish that truck traffic on anyone. If they expand that yard as planned I bet you'll see some pushback from the locals.
Not sure about the tractor but it did look rather different than the typical ones I've seen.
3300 containers a day is crazy!
How many cranes did you all have to make that many lifts?
The area around this facility really is in the middle of nowhere.
But I can't imagine the roads could handle double the truck traffic.
I'm sure the few nearby residents wouldn't be happy either.
@@nkyrailfan Maersk has been running BYD tractors around Chicago. I would love to see what driving one of those is like.
I don't remember how many cranes we had at LPC, but we had something like 125 Spotter trucks. Absolute madhouse. Even though it's called Logistics Park Chicago, it's also out in the middle of nowhere. Those roads weren't meant for truck traffic like that.
@davidf2477 you weren't kidding, the LPC really is out in the middle of nowhere.
That is a massive facility though!
I can only imagine how busy that is.
They have 40 ft containers there. The facility has staging areas a bit south of there on 411.
@mattg1774 thanks for the info. I do appreciate it.
I love the American flags painted on the legs. Particularly considering those containers are almost always full of Chinese junk.
The flags are very cool!!!
And yeah, it is very ironic they're used to unload what I can only assume is 90+% cargo from China or Asia.
Etowah see M541 M542 some coal trains still ethanol trains oddball work trains the port has 2 trains goes to Sav runs daily l198 l197 and some grains now where getting reroute trains cause of the clinchfield floods and nice video
I guess this is why you don't see industrial sidings anymore. very efficient but i miss the tracks
I never thought about it like that, but I'd say you're exactly right.
The RR companies are able to transfer that last mile delivery to a truck instead of a boxcar with these types of facilities.
So, they're still getting a piece of the money, but don't have any sidings to maintain.
I wondered about the beautiful videos you make. Is this from a drone? It looks so absolutely still I don't know how you do it.
yeah shippers are trying to avoid the west coast ports as much as possible due the crime that's allowed to occur anymore! they find it cheaper to hit the canal and unload on the east coast because the trains don't get ransacked! those guys in the vests are there to mount the anchor pins on the double stacks and to inspect the cars the white arms on the lift cradle/bridle are there to guide and stabilize on the hook up and move as to telling the containers they're supposedly equipped with RFID tags that the lift bridle can read on the hookup! the semi trailers are probably just being stored there there's no way they'd survive being picked up the sides are no way strong enough to be used as a structural lift component they're basically a backyard shed built over a flatbed! the coal cars are probably in long term storage or waiting scrapping thanks to the lunatics running things these days although i did hear something about some being converted to smaller covered hoppers a while back!
Thanks for all the great information.
I really do appreciate it.
The east coast ports really do seem to be seeing a surge.
Hopefully, it continues.
One thing I don’t think you showed in the Corbin footage: The High Line over the CV wye has been bulldozed.
I can only think that some kind of wireless measurement system shoves each container ID into a database for site location. The allocations are kept and the playout for cranes and trucks and trains is calculated based on location. For instance, if a container is on the bottom of a storage stack, the top containers need to be run around or moved for access. Given the nature of this complexity, facilities like this can make a lot of sense. I've always thought of how this could be optimized. I'm sure they're throwing AI on these models now that AI is everywhere. Those things that extend over the top of a container, is for alignment before pinning the top corners for lifting.
Thanks for the great info.
Others have commented the containers have RFID tags that are scanned at each point throughout their journey, allowing the shipper to know where its containers are anywhere in the system.
It really is incredible what they're able to do.
Wow... Corbin looks like a ghost town. I guess the coal traffic in this part of KY is down to nothing (steam coal whose cost to extract is $$). Makes one wonder if the line will be abandoned at some point in time. And when you see small trees growing between the stored coal hoppers - that is not a good sign. Probably heading for scrap at some point.
It is really depressing to see what the yard looks like.
It would be great if all this track work is a sign CSX is planning on increasing traffic on the line, but I guess only time will tell.
Thanks for this video. Comment on Corbin. With all the ties snd new ballast I’m guessing FRA inspected the yard there and told CSX to maintain it or shut it down and the railroad decided to fix it.
That's interesting.
I'm surprised the FRA would care so much about a yard, but it does make sense that it would want a RR to make sure everything is in safe, working order.
It'd be nice if CSX could find a reason to make the yard more useful.
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"Containers are the future"? Containers are the present. It won't be long before box cars exist only in rail museums.
Not really-new box cars are being built