my issue is that, the GK is year after year allowed to do less. they cant "confuse" the opponend by JUMPING. but this shit is allowed. i mean just get rid of the GK at this point end let them shoot on the empty goal
Honestly, this might be weird, but I find the concept of goalies to be so boring in soccer/hockey. Like ok, the 10 guys could completely dominate the game (and that's the exciting part) but sorry this one guy who you can't touch or interact with just shuts you off the scoreboard. Kinda lame. Whatever. Just a weird thought
It may be allowed by the rules but that doesn't make it not stupid to watch. The penalty taker already has advantages over the keeper. I like your idea of giving the keeper the chance to leave the line as soon as a stutter happens. The keeper can't do anything to distract the penalty taker, per the rules, but the taker can dance around like an idiot all he wants.
As per rules the goalkeeper can dance on the line all he wants too. Its just incredible stupid to do that as it makes your opportunity to save the ball way lower than before.
@@LiftandCoa the GK is generally allowed to do that. The rules state: The goalkeeper must not behave In a way that unfairly distracts the kicker, e.g. delay the taking of the kick or touch the goalposts, crossbar or goal net. "Distract the kicker" could be interpreted in any number of ways by the referee. Generally, anything goes as long as it doesn't break the letter of the law, but there seem to be more restrictions on keepers than on kickers.
If I had a nickel for every time Lewandowski misses a penalty on a major tournament against France but then gets a second chance and scores I'd have two nickels, which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice.
Hes a terrible penalty taker (for Poland that is), im confident in saying I've seen him miss at least 3 of 4 times which is... crazy. He'd been doing the same nonsense for a long time, and it works the same way everytime - absolutely terribly. In general, in Poland Lewandowski is revered as a club player but strongly disliked as a national team player, despite playing 100+ games and scoring countless goals - because everytime he's on the pitch, the team (probably because of terrible coaches we've had for like 15 years now, our new one despite being an extreme underdog doing the opposite for once) plays terribly, because EVERY SINGLE PLAY is done to get the ball to him, doesn't matter if he's in the box or in the midfield or his own half, and let him figure it out. No wonder he scored a lot since every single play is done to pass it to him in the end. Good for his stats but CANCEROUS for the national team. Love him as a player but I was so happy to see rhe Polish team to... lose to Netherlands 1-2 but actually PLAY WELL AND INTERESTING WITHOUT LEWA, and play actual football vs France without doing everything to pass to him every play. It's funny since we were literally knocked out 1st from the tournament and a majority of Poles is actually very positive about the way they played for the first time since I can remember and I'm 30, all because we finally have a coach who doesn't just play everything to Lewandowski and keep calling the same old ass players again and again, and takes risks and calls young talents even If they only play in the shit Polish league or like Serie B.
The most egregious thing to me is that after the first attempt he immediately points at Maignan for coming off his line, like he didn’t do like three stutter stops himself…
@@joseph-fernando-pianowell yeah, he points at him because it was a part of his plan to decieve the GK into stepping off his line. I'd do it too and I'm assuming you too
I think for simplicity's sake, the rule should just be: The penalty taker has to run up and kick in one fluid motion. You are not allowed to slow down, stutter or delay. The goalkeeper needs to stay on the line until the ball has been kicked. All the other variations just make it harder to judge.
We figured for decades. Once we put technology into the sport (goal line, VIDEO REFEREE) we suddenly complain about stuff being "too complaicated" lmao
That doesn't make it simpler. You have to then define clearly what constitutes slowing down, stuttering or delaying. It's already simple - people just love to find something to cry about.
That was the rule for a long time actually... But then they changed it and I suspect the same as Zealand, refs were just lenient, and finally the modified it to the current one.
I watched first 9 mins of France - Poland and then said to myself “fuck it” and switched to the other game, I do not regret the decision. Then again I watched England -Slovenia in its entirety… but I bet the other game wasn’t much better
@@Burpingtogheter No, im not. Its fcking annyoing the shooter can do everything, and if the gk somehow managed to still save it, 90% of the times they just reshot the penalty for some dumb reason. You know what? We should forbid the keeper to even try to save it if the obvious goal is that every penalty should score...
The player should only be allowed 3-5 seconds to take the penalty after the whistle is blown. If it takes the player as long as Zealand takes to fix his background, the penalty gets disallowed! 😅
Haven't thought it through fully, but what if the rule was something like: once the penalty taker stops/stutters/jumps during their run-up, the keeper should be allowed to leave his line? It would allow the goofy technique, but also force the penalty takers to only stutter/stop on their final couple steps so as to avoid being at a disadvantage Edit: Lol, should have just waited a minute
Problem would be "what counts as a stutter or a stop" I feel like if that were a ruole, it would become less clear for goalkeepers when they could leave their line.
@@Me-ui1zy Yes - Imagine the insanely dull coverage of people arguing over what constitutes a stutter or natural movement. It'd be 1000 times worse than the tedious 'natural position' handball arguments.
I'm old enough to remember a time when the GK wasn't even allowed to move before a penalty was shot. When I took a penalty back then, I would put the ball on the spot and make a great effort to show the GK that I was going to shoot left-footed. I'd run up as if I was taking it left-footed. Then I'd alter my run-up subtly to shoot right-footed and when I would put my left foot next to the ball, the GK would usually start diving and I could then shoot into the other direction. If somehow I flubbed it, I would get to retake the penalty because the GK moved.
@eliotbyrne7648 they already changed it. Back when they changed the run up rule, they changed, that the goalkeeper only has to have one foot on the line, before, the gk had to have both feet on the line before the pen was taken
Some players strive in gimmicks. Besides, Lewandowski has other cards up his sleeve. But it's like Anthony Gordon flopping for penalties. It can get you something.
What Lewandowski does is super hard. When you consider how well you still have to place a pen, those stutter steps (that need to be semi-random, otherwise everybody knows what he'll do) throw of your rhythm immensely. So him still being able to shoot it that well is quite impressive.
Also, nobody's perfect at penalties except for Matthew Le Tissier, who came damn close, scoring 47 out of 48 (shoutout Mark Crossley, the only person to have saved a Le Tissier penalty).
This is directly from IFAB's Laws of The Game: "the player taking the penalty kick or a team-mate offends: feinting to kick the ball once the kicker has completed the run-up (feinting in the run-up is permitted); the referee cautions the kicker". My interpretation of the law, as written, is that while I personally dont think either one should be allowed, Lewandowski's first stop halfway through the run up seems to be legal, while I would argue that the second time he stops was close enough to the ball to be considered "feinting to kick the ball" and therefore the penalty should not have been retaken, indirect free kick to France. Thats my take on it, but what do I know, I'm just an amateur referee who studies the laws of the game way more closely than someone at my level (youth club and high school soccer in the US) should care to
i've always been a "pick your spot, straight run-up, hit with power" typa guy. but part of the reason is because i know i can't do the stutter stuff 😂 either way, i do think there should either be a time limit to take penalties after the taker moves, or allow the keeper to come off the line after a stutter. 78% of pens are scored anyway, it's not like it's too hard to score them
Every single time Lewa takes a pen, he does it exactly like that. And the goallies keep coming off the line, and even though that's the only breach of official rules there's a bunch of people complaining and yapping.
Given what you say the laws of the game are, yes what lewandowski did is legal, but my question is now: when did rule change? It used to say you couldn’t completely stop your forward momentum. You could run faster or slower, but you couldn’t entirely stop or move backwards. When did that change?
I used to hate the 2 step rule (you cant stop in the last 2 steps before you kick a penalty) and was happy when it changed. But it`s fucking ridiculous, put it back. Nothing was gained and is just ridiculous...
rule as written according to the FA website "feinting to kick the ball once the kicker has completed the run-up (feinting in the run-up is permitted); the referee cautions the kicker"
Kicker: you get 3 steps. Keeper: can't leave the line until the kicker takes their third step. No retakes unless keeper leaves before third step or another player intreats on the penalty area.
The best strategy is still to pick a side and shoot. The advantage in a pk lies overwhelmingly with the taker. The ball travels toward the goal in 0.39 seconds, giving the keeper less than a second to react. Doing any type of stutter is more likely to make the taker mess up, as opposed to the keeper. Just vary between hitting a bottom corner or smashing it down the center.
As a hockey fan penalties in soccer are wild. The goal is 10 times bigger and yet the goalie isn't allowed to move. All the fancy footwork in the sport and a penalty is just the ball on a dot.
Happy to debate. I am a goalkeeper so I am biased dont get me wrong! The taker already has such a massive advantage to begin with so is the favourite to score, the goalkeepers are now not allowed to make a big 'performance' (think of Bruce Grobbelaar and Jerzy Dudek) because it 'puts off the taker' - Yet takers can do all of these run ups. If you have confidence in your ability, run up and hit it. Haaland doesnt mess about with a penalty! As a joke - i think goalkeepers should be able to run off the line as the whistle is taken to counter the cowardly run ups xD
There are some rules against players behaving obnoixiously - the newest don't talk to the ref rule is one of them - and that kind of run up should be banned because it makes the sport look bad.
As soon as the kicker starts moving, the goalkeeper should be allowed to advance to the edge of the 6yd box, if they don't want a big 6feet4 guy charging at them, then learn the one step kick.
If you can do this sort of run-up and still be able to place it right in the corner if the goalkeeper doesn't bite then it seems like the perfect way to take a penalty. It makes players look stupid when the keeper stands still and the taker just hits it softly down the middle anyway because they didn't have a backup plan.
When I was in high school your penalty won't count if you did this and because of that I spent a lot years thinking it was not allowed in the actual game
The rule itself says they can’t completely stop, but some part of them must remain in motion (hence the lean forward in the stutter). But it’s been so lenient that it does feel like the traveling rule more than not.
07:26 the biggest misunderstanding is that a penalty is actually a penalty to the team who commited a foul or has done anything against the rules. So it is fair to give the advantage do the attacking team.
The thing is that before retakes were enforced this hard penalties were still an 80% of scoring, at this point we might as well let them shoot in an empty net if we are stacking the deck this hard for the taker
I mean... it really shouldnt be legal. I saw a stat that like 85+% of pens get scored. It really shouldnt be that way, and rules like these make it even easier to score. Pen conversion should be around 66% (because left - right - middle)
@@brunch. Mega bullshit, you can get a penalty for a slight clip of someones foot nowhere near the goal in a non dangerous attack and it happens often. Thia is just more of the agenda to make penalties as easy as possible and as frequent as possible to push more goals and more drama
@@brunch. Sometimes, yes. Yet very often fouls are committed inside the box without an imminent opportunity for goal-scoring, or there's an unfortunate handball situation when the player clearly did not deliberately handle/block the ball. In all those cases, penalties are indeed too-harsh punishments. Free kicks inside the box make more sense in those cases. But yes, that adds another layer of subjectivity, I know. Glad I'm not the maker of those laws, because hardly any rule in football is bulletproof.
The rules should be amended to permit the goalkeeper to move anywhere within the 6-yard box from the goal line from the moment the penalty taker begins his run to strike the ball, and the taker should be allowed to faint. This would actually make penalties great again. And penalties as tie breakers should be combined with the silver goal rule to promote offensive football.
It's like golf. Once you go for swing. That's it. Counts as a stroke. So penalty taken if stop = Missed pen.. Goalie should be allowed to move off line into the six yard area once the penalty taker moves towards the ball after ref whistle.
I agree. Its stupid the goalie has to hold the line. The second the ref blows his whistle to goalie should be free to do whatever he wants. You want to charge the kick, go ahead. It would make penalties more exciting. Last i checked Toney was still perfect from the pk.
The minute I stopped picking a spot and started stuttering all my pens went in. It’s definitely a tactic to use but you need to train it. I would do it for hours till I know I’m gonna score.
My proposal: The keeper must start with at least one foot on the line. Once the taker starts their run up, the keeper can leave their line, but must stay within the 6-yard box until the ball is struck by the taker.
In the end, the rule makers want the penalty taker to score so the rules are weighted in their favour. The whole point of the penalty is to punish an infringement (with the exception of the penalty shootout).
It may be legal but it's not right when keepers get penalised for coming off their line. To have any real chance of saving a penalty you need to anticipate when the strike will happen otherwise If you wait it's nearly always past you before you can react. You however can't anticipate if you have to wait, infact with the two rules in play Keepers alsmot have to take a split second to ensure it's struck making a low percentage chance of saving even lower. You just can't allow both, the second a run up is stopped the line rule should go out of the window
The rules are pretty clear, Lewandowski and many others used to stop and fake out the gk. Now they have to be in motion all the time.....and he is. He's obviously really slow on his last stutter step, but his legs are always faster than 0.0 m/s and that's playing it by the rules.
There is no rule not allowing to stop. I don't like it but it is pretty smart to do. And very difficult to pull it off. You basically surrender a run up by doing this.
It being legal doesn't matter; it devalues the sport and shouldn't be in the game. If slapping the offending opponent after getting a free kick would be added to the rules that also wouldn't be a good and healthy thing for the sport.
so my understanding is that the goalkeeper has to stay on his line until the penalty is taken question is does the run up count as taking the penalty? because it should count otherwise we might as well just let them shoot without GK
Always thought you werent allowed to stop! I like that rule, you'd see players drag their foot behind to keep moving and thought that was fine. This stopping is quite frustrating for me
Lewandowski didn’t stop however. The rules state that some part of the body has to stay in motion, leaning the body forward counts as motion. The goalkeeper did a bad job in this instance
The point of a run up is to get the power and speed into the ball... both of the penalties rolled to the keeper. Dancing is not a sustainable way to take penalties, he just got lucky with the goalpost assist
My personal problem is that the rules are unfairly balanced. It isn't the stutter rule per-se, I agree, while it's there, Strikers should take advantage.. However, it's more the level of scrutiny on the goalkeeper. GKs are pulled up for being half an inch off the line after 9 different dance moves from the taker, and I think that is unfair. How can you possibly know when you can dive, if the striker has done so many movements. Needs to be a more level playing field, as a Penalty is already stacked towards the striker anyway. I personally would ban the stutter for "One continuous movement towards the ball." and there would likely be more penalty saves because of it. The goalie then knows when to move and it becomes a fairer contest. It still favours the striker, but not as much. FIFA will argue, more goals = more entertainment, but I would argue that Penalty saves are just as entertaining as a penalty scored, maybe more so.
ice hockey… not the same as football obviously and even harder to score a penalty there, but I belive it has the rule that at no point you can stop when taking a penalty, there should always be a forward movement, and NASL penalties I think were more like copied from hockey
The rule says the penalty kick has to be done in a single motion and that the player is only allowed to touch the ball once, it has never been a secret Penalties are not meant to be fair. As the name suggests, they are meant to penalize someone exactly because they, intentionally or not, took an anti-game and unfair action inside the box
Not to mention, stopping and starting pits the odds in the goalkeepers favour as the striker has less power on the ball due to less momentum. Notice the goalkeeper saving the penalty but sadly doing it illegally at first. If the goalie stayed on his line he would have had more reaction time to catch the ball , and due to less run up, also had even more time to predict where the ball was going. Unfortunately on the second time, goalkeeper was very narrowly outsmarted, and that’s on the goalie and not what the player was doing.
"The rules are the rules" Point is rules must be changed Scoring a pen is far too easy so allowing the kicker to do all of this nonsense just makes it even harder for the keeper
i thought the rule was that u couldnt stop once ur foot went to shoot. like u cant do the old neymar stuff where he lift ur leg for the shot and hold it in the air waiting for the keeper the dive. edit: 4:33 i was right i didnt even see that part yet. im so smart
I've been following football pundits on RUclips covering Copa America in both English and Spanish, and there's a consensus that the United States of America should not be hosting the tournament. Our friends south of the border are feeling anger and resentment because the USA, with lots of American dollars, is hosting the CA tournament. The display of animosity was apparent when, at the end of the game, Christian Pulisic, the captain of the American team, attempted to shake hands with the South American officials. However, they refused to shake his hand. This act was seen as despicable and disrespectful to the USA, which had graciously agreed to host the tournament after Ecuadro could not. As a result of this incident, throughout the tournament the USMNT players were targeted by unfair one side during the tournament and punished by unfair officiting punished by our friends from south of the border.
it's funny that you said "you shouldn't do it without practicing it" because lewandowski actually practiced it for like a year before actually doing it in a game
I did not know that the rules were that liberal, I thought it was "you are allowed to slow down your motion but not come to a full stop". To be fair, he did not come to a full stop right before shooting, it's just veeeery slowed down. But he did come to a full stop at the start of the run, which is strange.
FIFA already changed the rules to wear keepers. Can’t try to distract the penalty taker before they take the penalty what’s next are they just gonna make them try to save it backwards it’s bullshit honestly
In my opinion a penalty should be always like 80/20 and not 50/50. With adding that the gk can get closer it would make way more sense to just foul if you think it stops a shot that will most likely go in and thats probably why this rule exists. So the penalty taker has a really good chance of scoring. Also cant blame Lewandowski here for knowing the rules, if he misses the gk probably left his line if he scores, yeah I mean then he scores
if you watched france vs portugal just now do you think ronaldo penalty should have been retaken? he 100% stopped 2 times it was weird it was not called
They just keep taking away any tools the goalie has to save the penalty. First it was your foot has to be on the line, then it was you can't touch the crossbar bar, then it was you can't yell at the taker, then it was you can't show the taker gestures, then it was you can't dance after saves. Just get rid of the goalie entirely, move the pen spot closer or award goals for fouls in the area at this point.
my issue is that, the GK is year after year allowed to do less. they cant "confuse" the opponend by JUMPING. but this shit is allowed. i mean just get rid of the GK at this point end let them shoot on the empty goal
They aren't allowed to jump? I thought they were allowed to move around and do funny arm movements as long as they stay on the line.
Lewandowski might still miss that way
@@MrReese they were but as I said the rules got more stringent for the GK.
Honestly, this might be weird, but I find the concept of goalies to be so boring in soccer/hockey. Like ok, the 10 guys could completely dominate the game (and that's the exciting part) but sorry this one guy who you can't touch or interact with just shuts you off the scoreboard. Kinda lame. Whatever. Just a weird thought
still cant understand why this neccessary... the striker already has the upperhand so much
It may be allowed by the rules but that doesn't make it not stupid to watch. The penalty taker already has advantages over the keeper. I like your idea of giving the keeper the chance to leave the line as soon as a stutter happens. The keeper can't do anything to distract the penalty taker, per the rules, but the taker can dance around like an idiot all he wants.
As per rules the goalkeeper can dance on the line all he wants too.
Its just incredible stupid to do that as it makes your opportunity to save the ball way lower than before.
@@LiftandCoa the GK is generally allowed to do that. The rules state: The goalkeeper must not behave In a way that unfairly distracts the kicker, e.g. delay the taking of the kick or touch the goalposts, crossbar or goal net.
"Distract the kicker" could be interpreted in any number of ways by the referee. Generally, anything goes as long as it doesn't break the letter of the law, but there seem to be more restrictions on keepers than on kickers.
@@LiftandCoa Tell that to Andrew Redmayne 😅
Football has laws not rules
@@n0body550whys it called a rule book then?
If I had a nickel for every time Lewandowski misses a penalty on a major tournament against France but then gets a second chance and scores I'd have two nickels, which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice.
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Hes a terrible penalty taker (for Poland that is), im confident in saying I've seen him miss at least 3 of 4 times which is... crazy. He'd been doing the same nonsense for a long time, and it works the same way everytime - absolutely terribly.
In general, in Poland Lewandowski is revered as a club player but strongly disliked as a national team player, despite playing 100+ games and scoring countless goals - because everytime he's on the pitch, the team (probably because of terrible coaches we've had for like 15 years now, our new one despite being an extreme underdog doing the opposite for once) plays terribly, because EVERY SINGLE PLAY is done to get the ball to him, doesn't matter if he's in the box or in the midfield or his own half, and let him figure it out. No wonder he scored a lot since every single play is done to pass it to him in the end. Good for his stats but CANCEROUS for the national team.
Love him as a player but I was so happy to see rhe Polish team to... lose to Netherlands 1-2 but actually PLAY WELL AND INTERESTING WITHOUT LEWA, and play actual football vs France without doing everything to pass to him every play.
It's funny since we were literally knocked out 1st from the tournament and a majority of Poles is actually very positive about the way they played for the first time since I can remember and I'm 30, all because we finally have a coach who doesn't just play everything to Lewandowski and keep calling the same old ass players again and again, and takes risks and calls young talents even If they only play in the shit Polish league or like Serie B.
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The problem is not that he did it. The problem is that he's allowed to.
The most egregious thing to me is that after the first attempt he immediately points at Maignan for coming off his line, like he didn’t do like three stutter stops himself…
No thats actually not a problem.
Why is it a problem? Penalties by design are supposed to lend a huge advantage to the attacking team.
@@joseph-fernando-piano Stutters are allowed. Coming off the line is not. Simple as that
@@joseph-fernando-pianowell yeah, he points at him because it was a part of his plan to decieve the GK into stepping off his line. I'd do it too and I'm assuming you too
I think for simplicity's sake, the rule should just be: The penalty taker has to run up and kick in one fluid motion. You are not allowed to slow down, stutter or delay. The goalkeeper needs to stay on the line until the ball has been kicked. All the other variations just make it harder to judge.
We figured for decades.
Once we put technology into the sport (goal line, VIDEO REFEREE) we suddenly complain about stuff being "too complaicated" lmao
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That doesn't make it simpler. You have to then define clearly what constitutes slowing down, stuttering or delaying. It's already simple - people just love to find something to cry about.
That was the rule for a long time actually... But then they changed it and I suspect the same as Zealand, refs were just lenient, and finally the modified it to the current one.
@@LiftandCoa Technology has nothing to do with this specific thing (pen run-up).
If my players cant do this in FM it dosent exist
A moment of silence for those who choose to watch France vs Poland over Netherlands vs Austria
(I watched neither)
Unless you're a Nederland supporter, then a moment of silence for us having to watch that terrible defending and Gakpo refuse to use his left foot.
I didnt watch any either but i watched england vs slovenia and the halftime ads were more entertaining than the game
@@AholeAtheist i am austrian and thanks Duracell Sabitzer for using his left
I watched first 9 mins of France - Poland and then said to myself “fuck it” and switched to the other game, I do not regret the decision.
Then again I watched England -Slovenia in its entirety… but I bet the other game wasn’t much better
I was (kinda) forced to. Netherlands vs Austria wasn't freely broadcasted in my country
Bring back the Dudek penalty antics 😭😭😭
Don't, cheating isn't cool
Cant understand why its not allowed anymore...
@@gregorgerzson1767 you're kidding right
@@Burpingtogheteras of last year's LotG revision, the keeper can't distract the taker
@@Burpingtogheter No, im not. Its fcking annyoing the shooter can do everything, and if the gk somehow managed to still save it, 90% of the times they just reshot the penalty for some dumb reason. You know what? We should forbid the keeper to even try to save it if the obvious goal is that every penalty should score...
The rule is once you ARRIVE at the ball, if you stop completely it's an indirect free kick. Law 14.2.4
Basically the Neymar rule ( watch Santos games )
The player should only be allowed 3-5 seconds to take the penalty after the whistle is blown. If it takes the player as long as Zealand takes to fix his background, the penalty gets disallowed! 😅
Since c ronaldo, they can do anything... fifa/uefa is a joke...
Haven't thought it through fully, but what if the rule was something like: once the penalty taker stops/stutters/jumps during their run-up, the keeper should be allowed to leave his line?
It would allow the goofy technique, but also force the penalty takers to only stutter/stop on their final couple steps so as to avoid being at a disadvantage
Edit: Lol, should have just waited a minute
Problem would be "what counts as a stutter or a stop"
I feel like if that were a ruole, it would become less clear for goalkeepers when they could leave their line.
@@Me-ui1zy Yes - Imagine the insanely dull coverage of people arguing over what constitutes a stutter or natural movement. It'd be 1000 times worse than the tedious 'natural position' handball arguments.
@@Me-ui1zy any speed change beside a plain acceleration towards the ball.
@@Me-ui1zy any move thats not a straight runnup/walkup. keep it simple.
Just because something is within the rules doesn’t mean we can’t complain about it and by extension the rule
But you should know the rules before you complain about them.
I'm old enough to remember a time when the GK wasn't even allowed to move before a penalty was shot. When I took a penalty back then, I would put the ball on the spot and make a great effort to show the GK that I was going to shoot left-footed. I'd run up as if I was taking it left-footed. Then I'd alter my run-up subtly to shoot right-footed and when I would put my left foot next to the ball, the GK would usually start diving and I could then shoot into the other direction. If somehow I flubbed it, I would get to retake the penalty because the GK moved.
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If an attacker is allowed to stutter their run up the keeper is allowed to come off his line
Why? Penalties are there to give advantage and clear goal scoring opportunity to the attacking team. They aren't supposed to be fair.
Not what the rules say. btw🤷♂
@@martsien9627 that's the point! It's a stupid modern rule, may as well just leave him score into an open goal
@eliotbyrne7648 they already changed it. Back when they changed the run up rule, they changed, that the goalkeeper only has to have one foot on the line, before, the gk had to have both feet on the line before the pen was taken
Neymar used to do it until the rule got changed. If you want to see a keeper feeling bad, see his old way of scoring a pen
Rules should allow GKs to move as soon as runup starts
If they change the rules for GKs, they need to adjust the rules accordingly for run ups as well.
It probably isn't a very useful tactic statistically, hence why more people don't do it. It's just kind of a gimmick.
Some players strive in gimmicks. Besides, Lewandowski has other cards up his sleeve. But it's like Anthony Gordon flopping for penalties. It can get you something.
What Lewandowski does is super hard. When you consider how well you still have to place a pen, those stutter steps (that need to be semi-random, otherwise everybody knows what he'll do) throw of your rhythm immensely. So him still being able to shoot it that well is quite impressive.
Also, nobody's perfect at penalties except for Matthew Le Tissier, who came damn close, scoring 47 out of 48 (shoutout Mark Crossley, the only person to have saved a Le Tissier penalty).
This title and thumbnail gonna bring the views back up
i'd watch more videos if they were shorter.
@@cd.knucklesattention span📉
In the WC quarterfinals against France two years ago he did the same thing, and the penalty was also repeated. That run up is cursed by design.
20 years ago when i used to referee that was not allowed in fact it was a bookable offernce as it was considered unsportsman like conduct
Oh no, he’s lost another bet and is growing a fur over his lip again
On the topic of keepers getting away with coming off their line, Raya did that to save the last penalty against Porto
This is directly from IFAB's Laws of The Game:
"the player taking the penalty kick or a team-mate offends:
feinting to kick the ball once the kicker has completed the run-up (feinting in the run-up is permitted); the referee cautions the kicker".
My interpretation of the law, as written, is that while I personally dont think either one should be allowed, Lewandowski's first stop halfway through the run up seems to be legal, while I would argue that the second time he stops was close enough to the ball to be considered "feinting to kick the ball" and therefore the penalty should not have been retaken, indirect free kick to France.
Thats my take on it, but what do I know, I'm just an amateur referee who studies the laws of the game way more closely than someone at my level (youth club and high school soccer in the US) should care to
i've always been a "pick your spot, straight run-up, hit with power" typa guy. but part of the reason is because i know i can't do the stutter stuff 😂
either way, i do think there should either be a time limit to take penalties after the taker moves, or allow the keeper to come off the line after a stutter. 78% of pens are scored anyway, it's not like it's too hard to score them
Every single time Lewa takes a pen, he does it exactly like that. And the goallies keep coming off the line, and even though that's the only breach of official rules there's a bunch of people complaining and yapping.
Given what you say the laws of the game are, yes what lewandowski did is legal, but my question is now: when did rule change? It used to say you couldn’t completely stop your forward momentum. You could run faster or slower, but you couldn’t entirely stop or move backwards. When did that change?
Good question. Must have been quite recently.
Penalty taker doing the river dance in front of the goalkeeper? Yes, i'd pay to see that.
I used to hate the 2 step rule (you cant stop in the last 2 steps before you kick a penalty) and was happy when it changed.
But it`s fucking ridiculous, put it back. Nothing was gained and is just ridiculous...
rule as written according to the FA website "feinting to kick the ball once the kicker has completed the run-up (feinting in the run-up is permitted); the referee cautions the kicker"
Kicker: you get 3 steps.
Keeper: can't leave the line until the kicker takes their third step.
No retakes unless keeper leaves before third step or another player intreats on the penalty area.
"goalkeepers should not provoke the penalty taker" and "penalty takers should not fool the keeper" are two sentences that just does not make any sense
The best strategy is still to pick a side and shoot. The advantage in a pk lies overwhelmingly with the taker. The ball travels toward the goal in 0.39 seconds, giving the keeper less than a second to react. Doing any type of stutter is more likely to make the taker mess up, as opposed to the keeper. Just vary between hitting a bottom corner or smashing it down the center.
As a hockey fan penalties in soccer are wild. The goal is 10 times bigger and yet the goalie isn't allowed to move. All the fancy footwork in the sport and a penalty is just the ball on a dot.
Happy to debate. I am a goalkeeper so I am biased dont get me wrong! The taker already has such a massive advantage to begin with so is the favourite to score, the goalkeepers are now not allowed to make a big 'performance' (think of Bruce Grobbelaar and Jerzy Dudek) because it 'puts off the taker' - Yet takers can do all of these run ups. If you have confidence in your ability, run up and hit it. Haaland doesnt mess about with a penalty!
As a joke - i think goalkeepers should be able to run off the line as the whistle is taken to counter the cowardly run ups xD
There are some rules against players behaving obnoixiously - the newest don't talk to the ref rule is one of them - and that kind of run up should be banned because it makes the sport look bad.
The moment he said itll lower your "points of scoring". I screamed American! Anyways. Great content as always man keep up the good word ❤
As soon as the kicker starts moving, the goalkeeper should be allowed to advance to the edge of the 6yd box, if they don't want a big 6feet4 guy charging at them, then learn the one step kick.
If you can do this sort of run-up and still be able to place it right in the corner if the goalkeeper doesn't bite then it seems like the perfect way to take a penalty. It makes players look stupid when the keeper stands still and the taker just hits it softly down the middle anyway because they didn't have a backup plan.
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When I was in high school your penalty won't count if you did this and because of that I spent a lot years thinking it was not allowed in the actual game
The rule itself says they can’t completely stop, but some part of them must remain in motion (hence the lean forward in the stutter). But it’s been so lenient that it does feel like the traveling rule more than not.
07:26 the biggest misunderstanding is that a penalty is actually a penalty to the team who commited a foul or has done anything against the rules. So it is fair to give the advantage do the attacking team.
The thing is that before retakes were enforced this hard penalties were still an 80% of scoring, at this point we might as well let them shoot in an empty net if we are stacking the deck this hard for the taker
I mean... it really shouldnt be legal. I saw a stat that like 85+% of pens get scored. It really shouldnt be that way, and rules like these make it even easier to score.
Pen conversion should be around 66% (because left - right - middle)
How about when the keeper guesses right, but it still goes in?
@@brunch. Mega bullshit, you can get a penalty for a slight clip of someones foot nowhere near the goal in a non dangerous attack and it happens often. Thia is just more of the agenda to make penalties as easy as possible and as frequent as possible to push more goals and more drama
@@brotherkorptchov4467 that gets 0’d out by the same as the keeper going the wrong way but the player misses/hits the crossbar
@@brunch. Sometimes, yes. Yet very often fouls are committed inside the box without an imminent opportunity for goal-scoring, or there's an unfortunate handball situation when the player clearly did not deliberately handle/block the ball. In all those cases, penalties are indeed too-harsh punishments. Free kicks inside the box make more sense in those cases. But yes, that adds another layer of subjectivity, I know. Glad I'm not the maker of those laws, because hardly any rule in football is bulletproof.
@@brunch. You don't have to make shit up penalties have never been a 50 50 chance, were fine as they were, could have just left them alone.
The rules should be amended to permit the goalkeeper to move anywhere within the 6-yard box from the goal line from the moment the penalty taker begins his run to strike the ball, and the taker should be allowed to faint. This would actually make penalties great again. And penalties as tie breakers should be combined with the silver goal rule to promote offensive football.
It's like golf. Once you go for swing. That's it. Counts as a stroke. So penalty taken if stop = Missed pen.. Goalie should be allowed to move off line into the six yard area once the penalty taker moves towards the ball after ref whistle.
Stop = no motion, lewandowski has mastered pushing his boy forward while he “stops” so that he is still in motion, thus the reason it counts
I agree. Its stupid the goalie has to hold the line. The second the ref blows his whistle to goalie should be free to do whatever he wants. You want to charge the kick, go ahead. It would make penalties more exciting. Last i checked Toney was still perfect from the pk.
The minute I stopped picking a spot and started stuttering all my pens went in. It’s definitely a tactic to use but you need to train it. I would do it for hours till I know I’m gonna score.
My proposal: The keeper must start with at least one foot on the line. Once the taker starts their run up, the keeper can leave their line, but must stay within the 6-yard box until the ball is struck by the taker.
In the end, the rule makers want the penalty taker to score so the rules are weighted in their favour. The whole point of the penalty is to punish an infringement (with the exception of the penalty shootout).
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It may be legal but it's not right when keepers get penalised for coming off their line. To have any real chance of saving a penalty you need to anticipate when the strike will happen otherwise If you wait it's nearly always past you before you can react. You however can't anticipate if you have to wait, infact with the two rules in play Keepers alsmot have to take a split second to ensure it's struck making a low percentage chance of saving even lower. You just can't allow both, the second a run up is stopped the line rule should go out of the window
Ive had a problem with his pens for years, finally people are starting to point it out
The rules are pretty clear, Lewandowski and many others used to stop and fake out the gk.
Now they have to be in motion all the time.....and he is. He's obviously really slow on his last stutter step, but his legs are always faster than 0.0 m/s and that's playing it by the rules.
There is no rule not allowing to stop. I don't like it but it is pretty smart to do. And very difficult to pull it off. You basically surrender a run up by doing this.
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It being legal doesn't matter; it devalues the sport and shouldn't be in the game. If slapping the offending opponent after getting a free kick would be added to the rules that also wouldn't be a good and healthy thing for the sport.
so my understanding is that the goalkeeper has to stay on his line until the penalty is taken
question is does the run up count as taking the penalty?
because it should count
otherwise we might as well just let them shoot without GK
Always thought you werent allowed to stop! I like that rule, you'd see players drag their foot behind to keep moving and thought that was fine. This stopping is quite frustrating for me
Lewandowski didn’t stop however. The rules state that some part of the body has to stay in motion, leaning the body forward counts as motion. The goalkeeper did a bad job in this instance
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Bring back the old MLS style 1 v 1 penalties from the 90's!
The point of a run up is to get the power and speed into the ball... both of the penalties rolled to the keeper. Dancing is not a sustainable way to take penalties, he just got lucky with the goalpost assist
Any professional footballer can hit a ball with sufficient power and speed without a run-up. Leg muscles and technique do that.
Did you really just say that one of the best strikers of this generation got lucky with his shot lol?
He does this with his pens literally always lmao. He just got *un*lucky the first try
Would pointing to a corner of the goal count as a feint? If not, I can't believe I've never seen someone do it.
My understanding is that you can't stop a run up and move away from the ball once you've started.
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My personal problem is that the rules are unfairly balanced. It isn't the stutter rule per-se, I agree, while it's there, Strikers should take advantage.. However, it's more the level of scrutiny on the goalkeeper. GKs are pulled up for being half an inch off the line after 9 different dance moves from the taker, and I think that is unfair. How can you possibly know when you can dive, if the striker has done so many movements. Needs to be a more level playing field, as a Penalty is already stacked towards the striker anyway.
I personally would ban the stutter for "One continuous movement towards the ball." and there would likely be more penalty saves because of it. The goalie then knows when to move and it becomes a fairer contest. It still favours the striker, but not as much.
FIFA will argue, more goals = more entertainment, but I would argue that Penalty saves are just as entertaining as a penalty scored, maybe more so.
You're arguing for the NASL shootout method. Johan Cruyff said he kind of liked it.
ice hockey… not the same as football obviously and even harder to score a penalty there, but I belive it has the rule that at no point you can stop when taking a penalty, there should always be a forward movement, and NASL penalties I think were more like copied from hockey
@@lkrnpk NASL was a soccer league in america that used those rules (inspired by Ice Hockey obvs, but its been done in soccer before)
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I actually dont mind we revert back to America invented soccer penalty hybrid or something.
The penalty stutter should be illegal, either that, or keeper can do wtf he wants.
The rule says the penalty kick has to be done in a single motion and that the player is only allowed to touch the ball once, it has never been a secret
Penalties are not meant to be fair. As the name suggests, they are meant to penalize someone exactly because they, intentionally or not, took an anti-game and unfair action inside the box
Not to mention, stopping and starting pits the odds in the goalkeepers favour as the striker has less power on the ball due to less momentum. Notice the goalkeeper saving the penalty but sadly doing it illegally at first. If the goalie stayed on his line he would have had more reaction time to catch the ball , and due to less run up, also had even more time to predict where the ball was going.
Unfortunately on the second time, goalkeeper was very narrowly outsmarted, and that’s on the goalie and not what the player was doing.
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"The rules are the rules" Point is rules must be changed
Scoring a pen is far too easy so allowing the kicker to do all of this nonsense just makes it even harder for the keeper
I feel like saving a penalty is hard enough as it is without the penalty taker doing a river dance before kicking the ball
It puts the shooter at a disadvantage due to lack of power.
They should let the keeper move in front of the goal, dance and do balet or whatever as well, at least 1-2 meter in front of the goal
i thought the rule was that u couldnt stop once ur foot went to shoot. like u cant do the old neymar stuff where he lift ur leg for the shot and hold it in the air waiting for the keeper the dive.
edit: 4:33 i was right i didnt even see that part yet. im so smart
I've been following football pundits on RUclips covering Copa America in both English and Spanish, and there's a consensus that the United States of America should not be hosting the tournament.
Our friends south of the border are feeling anger and resentment because the USA, with lots of American dollars, is hosting the CA tournament.
The display of animosity was apparent when, at the end of the game, Christian Pulisic, the captain of the American team, attempted to shake hands with the South American officials. However, they refused to shake his hand. This act was seen as despicable and disrespectful to the USA, which had graciously agreed to host the tournament after Ecuadro could not.
As a result of this incident, throughout the tournament the USMNT players were targeted by unfair one side during the tournament and punished by unfair officiting punished by our friends from south of the border.
it's funny that you said "you shouldn't do it without practicing it" because lewandowski actually practiced it for like a year before actually doing it in a game
after which for a while his pens were basically unsaveable for GKs but they're kinda catching up now
I did not know that the rules were that liberal, I thought it was "you are allowed to slow down your motion but not come to a full stop". To be fair, he did not come to a full stop right before shooting, it's just veeeery slowed down. But he did come to a full stop at the start of the run, which is strange.
if you get to stutter step a pen the keeper gets to put one foot off the line before the shot. only fair
FIFA already changed the rules to wear keepers. Can’t try to distract the penalty taker before they take the penalty what’s next are they just gonna make them try to save it backwards it’s bullshit honestly
In my opinion a penalty should be always like 80/20 and not 50/50. With adding that the gk can get closer it would make way more sense to just foul if you think it stops a shot that will most likely go in and thats probably why this rule exists. So the penalty taker has a really good chance of scoring. Also cant blame Lewandowski here for knowing the rules, if he misses the gk probably left his line if he scores, yeah I mean then he scores
I thought the rules as they were written disallowed this, until watching this video.
Jorginho has missed like 5 pens in a row for the NT. Spalletti needs to give pens to someone else
2 stutters is too much, I didn't think it should be retaken either but maybe Uefa just wanted a Lewa goal on his last tournament game
if you watched france vs portugal just now do you think ronaldo penalty should have been retaken? he 100% stopped 2 times it was weird it was not called
watching a video with this title is really gonna mess up my algorithm
Did the same thing v France in Qatar
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They just keep taking away any tools the goalie has to save the penalty. First it was your foot has to be on the line, then it was you can't touch the crossbar bar, then it was you can't yell at the taker, then it was you can't show the taker gestures, then it was you can't dance after saves. Just get rid of the goalie entirely, move the pen spot closer or award goals for fouls in the area at this point.
The FA has punished Son for this once in the FA cup against Rochdale
3:40 not really becouse then the keeper could just run towards the player and close in. Yes im polish and biased xd but the rule does make sense
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Could not the ref decides that the ‚run-up‘ is completed the moment he stops? I mean he wasn‘t running anymore… end of run-up
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Can you please do some breakdowns on how the Copa America is going?
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