I’m having a hard time deciding on the Dwarf 3 or Seestar S30. I also travel a lot so I need it to be small. The views are spectacular. you explain things very well. Thank you
Scott, were you have to confirm whether the wide angle lens could image decently at night? I have read by someone in testing a beta that it didn't allow the wide angle to do long exposures. I was thinking about whether it could do a Milkyway image which I've seen the D3 actually do with it's wide angle lens.
Good question. That would be my main reason to buy it, to be capable of tracking, use the light pollution filters and have long exposure times with the wide angle.
Dude. You really have to update this video. You didn't add the stars back in your post processing of the Andromeda galaxy and almost no stars on the Orion nebula either?!
@@ShayMagen s30 is a good start for brand new beginners, dwarf 3 offers more advanced settings so it’s good to dip your toes into learning more advanced astrophotography
what would be the point on investing $350 on this when just with some extra 150 you would have something much better than Dwarf3 or maybe even S50? considering many people even also invest in pixinsight + plugins which costs hundreds? if would be just looking at the price point, you could think "well this costs almost 50% less than S50" but, in practical terms we are talking about little money. Also need to consider time and effort to then staying at night doing astrophotography and post processing, imho it worth to invest a bit more, it wont break the bank.
The S30 doesn't have the same details as the S50. You can't zoom in on the crators of the Moon or zoom in on the Sun or other deep sky stuff. The S30 has less resolution compared to the S50. Thats why it's a downgrade
@@Mr_Glenn The resolution of the sensor is the same. The focal length of the scope is not. If you are saying "you cannot resolve as much detail of the moon," then yes, you are correct. At the same time, you can also resolve a wider area, which is better for many DSOs. If the moon is your priority, get the S50. That's simple.
@@MagicalWingLT if you are watching galaxies nebulas it's better than the s50 for this because of the wide field lens. But, the s50 has a new update with mosaic and it can capture much wider areas plus better on planets
30 mm that's 1,1 inch, no matter how smart the thing is it only has got a tiny 1,1 inch lens and you will only get images with resolution from that of a Telescope with a 1,1 inch opening. I would never spend even that kind of money for a 1,1 inch scope.
Resolution is the same as S50, despite being slightly lower magnification. And it has a better sensor. It has a triplet apo optic design, what’s wrong with that? And when I said that about the weight, I did mention it feels about the same weight. It’s really not a big difference in weight if you were to carry it up a mountain or pack it in a bag.
@ well, that’s funny. Especially the part about the mountains. Unless you are hiking in your park, in any serious trek every kilogram matters. I can’t imagine anyone bringing a 10 pound telescope into the Himalayas.
Good morning, I hope you can help me with the following question: Can the Seestar S50 tripod be used on the Seestar S30?
Thank you
I’m having a hard time deciding on the Dwarf 3 or Seestar S30. I also travel a lot so I need it to be small. The views are spectacular. you explain things very well. Thank you
Scott, were you have to confirm whether the wide angle lens could image decently at night? I have read by someone in testing a beta that it didn't allow the wide angle to do long exposures. I was thinking about whether it could do a Milkyway image which I've seen the D3 actually do with it's wide angle lens.
It doesn’t look like you can yet, maybe they’ll add it as a feature in the future
Good question. That would be my main reason to buy it, to be capable of tracking, use the light pollution filters and have long exposure times with the wide angle.
@@ScottCastrophotographybut can I still use mosaic with S30 to take clear pictures of the milky way?
Can you do milky way shots with the wider FOV?
Not yet, hopefully in a future update
compared to dwarf 3 ?
which is the better in image quality (without post)
thanks
Dwarf 3 has a 4K sensor and I believe a higher focal length. So I would have to say Dwarf 3.
@@Paolo14984 when you can get one, I've had an email off Dwarflab saying Jan 2025 for the UK now. They have been putting back the release for months
dwarf3 also has EQ mode, which helps a lot to avoid having quality issues at the corners of the images due to field rottation.
Noob here. 2 questions. Can the wide angle do long exposures for Milky Way images? And is the resolution good enough to make prints?
Resolution, yes it can do prints very nicely. And for the wide angle, no, not yet, hopefully they add that in an update soon
I wonder if this has a panorama mode like the Dwarf telescopes. Useful for terrestrial imaging.
Dude. You really have to update this video. You didn't add the stars back in your post processing of the Andromeda galaxy and almost no stars on the Orion nebula either?!
I'm on an iMac and wondering what kind of software do I need to Post the photos. Thanks
@@MrMlyarber use siril- a bit difficult to learn but worth it.
So glad it was in landscape mode. _iPad in portrait mode_
We don’t talk about that😂😂
I am going for it seestar 30
@@torianmccoy6332 go for it my dude!
Does it have terrestrial tracking?
@@NicholasLuchetti 👍 yes
I am a first time buyer of a smart telescope and this is my first introduction to astrophotography. Which one should I get? S30 S50 or D3?
What you want to Photograph?
@@ShayMagen s30 is a good start for brand new beginners, dwarf 3 offers more advanced settings so it’s good to dip your toes into learning more advanced astrophotography
@@ScottCastrophotographyIs the s50 good as well?I watched sone Videos but i am not so Sure..
S50 is good, but if you’re gonna get a SEESTAR you may as well get the s30 so you can fit larger objects into the FOV
@@sardonyxuniverse2811 Deep space objects.
what would be the point on investing $350 on this when just with some extra 150 you would have something much better than Dwarf3 or maybe even S50? considering many people even also invest in pixinsight + plugins which costs hundreds? if would be just looking at the price point, you could think "well this costs almost 50% less than S50" but, in practical terms we are talking about little money. Also need to consider time and effort to then staying at night doing astrophotography and post processing, imho it worth to invest a bit more, it wont break the bank.
Can you please provide an example of something around 500$ that can perform as a dwarf3 seestar50 etc?
The waiting face hilarious 😂
@@torianmccoy6332 😂😂
The S30 doesn't have the same details as the S50. You can't zoom in on the crators of the Moon or zoom in on the Sun or other deep sky stuff. The S30 has less resolution compared to the S50. Thats why it's a downgrade
@@MagicalWingLT It's the same resolution... It's a wider angle lens. Not as good for the moon, but better for a lot of DSOs
@@musa7606 pixel count and resolution aren't the same thing in photography.
@@Mr_Glenn The resolution of the sensor is the same. The focal length of the scope is not. If you are saying "you cannot resolve as much detail of the moon," then yes, you are correct. At the same time, you can also resolve a wider area, which is better for many DSOs.
If the moon is your priority, get the S50. That's simple.
@@MagicalWingLT if you are watching galaxies nebulas it's better than the s50 for this because of the wide field lens. But, the s50 has a new update with mosaic and it can capture much wider areas plus better on planets
Very nice review, looks like it's pretty decent.
It’s fun to use!
30 mm that's 1,1 inch, no matter how smart the thing is it only has got a tiny 1,1 inch lens and you will only get images with resolution from that of a Telescope with a 1,1 inch opening. I would never spend even that kind of money for a 1,1 inch scope.
thank you
Welcome!
Why don't ask SeeStar company to make a 60 mm apochromatic lens instead of this stupid toy?
@@cdlp8131 What makes you think it’s a stupid toy? You can see the amazing results it’s capable of in the video!!!
It's only a matter of time before you see it. Still for what it is the S30 is impressive.
I’ve decided to ignore your gatekeeping and ordered it!
You really don’t have a clue mate!!!
It weighs about 2 kgs less. Maybe reviewing is not your thing.
Good resolution? Good optics? LOL
For the price point and being an entry level for aspiring newcomers to the hobby it does
Resolution is the same as S50, despite being slightly lower magnification. And it has a better sensor. It has a triplet apo optic design, what’s wrong with that? And when I said that about the weight, I did mention it feels about the same weight. It’s really not a big difference in weight if you were to carry it up a mountain or pack it in a bag.
@ well, that’s funny. Especially the part about the mountains. Unless you are hiking in your park, in any serious trek every kilogram matters. I can’t imagine anyone bringing a 10 pound telescope into the Himalayas.
…I don’t think anyone would bring ANY telescope into the Himalayas. But alright
@ I did. Dwarf 3. Very lightweight, amazing dark skies