That’s a great explanation. You obviously put a lot of time and effort into it and it is appreciated. I just want to contribute my own gnosis. Dee also spent a lot of effortin making up the entire system. Which he did in fact. He set out to design a system that would challenge him and challenge his subconscious to allow him the ability through concentration, visualization, and meditation to call force ideas in his own subconscious mind. And I think that is the real interesting value of studying these works is to show us the amount of effort that could be put into these sort of deep dive meditations. For me, it’s always important to realize that, the system like all systems were simply made up by another person like me, and it was not specifically given through any other means. This energy, the source is available for all of us to tap into and while someone like Dee who was highly intellectual, may need to create such an elaborate system to Develop his faith another person may simply need a breathing exercise or yet another person may need bineural beats. after studying the system intensely for many years this was the conclusion I came to and what it did was give me the confidence to develop a completely unique system of my own. No amount of study will ever compensate for even the slightest amount of practice.
So, in your opinion, the conversations recorded in the diaries were all made up? Do you think the spirits in the Enochian hierarchies aren´t independent non physical beings, but instead figments of Dee´s imagination?
My short answer is yes. But remember what Lon said, it’s on your head. You just don’t realize how big your head is. it doesn’t discount or belittle anything that in anyway. My experience is however, that everything is within, and that is a personalized experience. So everybody has a different experience with different types of angels, different types of meaning. This does not make anything less “real “. Because nothing is real. This is a really deep conversation and hard to put into words here. I just wanna make sure that you do not discount my opinions as a skeptic because I’m not. I have studied and practiced this work for more than 20 years. The reason for my reply was not to debunk the by any means, but to just try and open up some neophytes into understanding that they can create their own systems. You could literally design your own system of communication with these entities set it up in your way, and as long as you practiced it with high intent and faith, it would happen. I love the quote, God is always there. We are just hiding from him. So we just want to make sure we become visible to him. He did it through a very complicated system because he was a complicated man. Others that are less complicated maybe less educated can do it more simply by even lighting a candle, for example, and meditating on it or something like that or doing some sort of Pagan ritual. My background has to do with medicine. So my entire approach is based on that and anatomy and for me the angels and Demons live in the body and occupy various organs and systems of my anatomy and so when I want to communicate to them, I go within and contact them, I bet it on the quote that Jesus said the kingdom of Heaven is within, Malkootha D’Shmeya. Nonlocal consciousness communicating with my body through the medulla oblongata. I’m sorry about the rant, I just don’t want you to think I am somebody who is just hating on Dee, he is definitely one of my mentors
@@Drstephenstokes hey, thanks for the detailed reply, man! This is an interesting discussion: whether spirits are independent beings or figments of one´s imagination. On one hand you have guys like Dr Stephen Skinner who´s a traditional grimoire magician, affirming that spiritual creatures are independent beings; on the other hand, golden dawn/thelema practitioners like Duquette who says spirits are at least partly psychological projections. I lean toward the former explanation, as there are several accounts of possession by evil spirits documented by clinical psychiatrists consulting for Catholic priests. I´m reffering to well documented cases, with thorough physical and mental exams.
@@Drstephenstokes so you are saying that all of our esoteric experiences are mere metaphors and Dee's experience with angels was highly subjective? the problem with that is-- how does the individual mind interact with the collective mind? it would seem that at the very least, angels are intermediaries between the two.
Your findings on this are pure gold thank you for sharing , May the eternal one give you the time to finish the work commended onto you . Magick must be rebuilt and resurrected is not lost. May order give you time to do so succesfully.
this is absolutely completely and utterly new and unknown to me prior to this video and your channel! I have happily subscribed as learning about these ancient modalities and possibly being able to interact with angelic beings, are both very important to my journey in this life… things are so sketchy in this world, so connecting with an ancient Divine, is definitely drawing my interest.. maybe by learning this, i will be able to vibrate lighter and brighter and help make a difference..🙏🏻💖✨🙏🏻💖.. i will listen now.. 👍🏼💫
So the things of what I've been figuring out for years was actually what Enochian magic had figured out. However, I'd need to compare them. This is great, thank you!
grateful and inspired - you are an excellent teacher. Great balance of both theoretical & practical knowledge. 🙏 I am decorating a temple and looking forward to practicing in a way guided by your work.
There is a key I have deciphered from by reading Don Milo’Dukette’s(?) 2 works that I haven’t seen anyone to date to have deciphered from it as of yet. Just throwing that out there as biblically speaking; there is a phone line between philosophy, prophecy, & divine providence.
I remember what said If you continue this than every1 will think its a trick. All i was doing was trying to alighn the people around me to the musical notes and fixing or healing them. I wasn't permitted due to the instructions i am given.
I saw this symbol back in a concert in 2022, the rock band "Tool" was displaying it on stage. I didnt know what it was, (I thought it was some kind of Satanic Pentagram or something malevolant. Then I did research and it lead me to this, the Sigillum Dei Aemeth and a Pagan symbol used by Allester Crowley A∴A∴ order. Im assuming the band members are magik practitioners and believe in Enochian Angels or the occult.
Problem with john dee was he was focused on buried treasure when he was evoking these angels. Based on the person he was i would be highly cautious of any of his work.
@@jordanbey870 Revelation 21:8 - But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and SORCERERS, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. 😘
That’s a great explanation. You obviously put a lot of time and effort into it and it is appreciated. I just want to contribute my own gnosis. Dee also spent a lot of effortin making up the entire system. Which he did in fact. He set out to design a system that would challenge him and challenge his subconscious to allow him the ability through concentration, visualization, and meditation to call force ideas in his own subconscious mind. And I think that is the real interesting value of studying these works is to show us the amount of effort that could be put into these sort of deep dive meditations. For me, it’s always important to realize that, the system like all systems were simply made up by another person like me, and it was not specifically given through any other means. This energy, the source is available for all of us to tap into and while someone like Dee who was highly intellectual, may need to create such an elaborate system to Develop his faith another person may simply need a breathing exercise or yet another person may need bineural beats. after studying the system intensely for many years this was the conclusion I came to and what it did was give me the confidence to develop a completely unique system of my own. No amount of study will ever compensate for even the slightest amount of practice.
So, in your opinion, the conversations recorded in the diaries were all made up?
Do you think the spirits in the Enochian hierarchies aren´t independent non physical beings, but instead figments of Dee´s imagination?
My short answer is yes. But remember what Lon said, it’s on your head. You just don’t realize how big your head is. it doesn’t discount or belittle anything that in anyway. My experience is however, that everything is within, and that is a personalized experience. So everybody has a different experience with different types of angels, different types of meaning. This does not make anything less “real “. Because nothing is real. This is a really deep conversation and hard to put into words here. I just wanna make sure that you do not discount my opinions as a skeptic because I’m not. I have studied and practiced this work for more than 20 years. The reason for my reply was not to debunk the by any means, but to just try and open up some neophytes into understanding that they can create their own systems. You could literally design your own system of communication with these entities set it up in your way, and as long as you practiced it with high intent and faith, it would happen. I love the quote, God is always there. We are just hiding from him. So we just want to make sure we become visible to him. He did it through a very complicated system because he was a complicated man. Others that are less complicated maybe less educated can do it more simply by even lighting a candle, for example, and meditating on it or something like that or doing some sort of Pagan ritual. My background has to do with medicine. So my entire approach is based on that and anatomy and for me the angels and Demons live in the body and occupy various organs and systems of my anatomy and so when I want to communicate to them, I go within and contact them, I bet it on the quote that Jesus said the kingdom of Heaven is within, Malkootha D’Shmeya. Nonlocal consciousness communicating with my body through the medulla oblongata. I’m sorry about the rant, I just don’t want you to think I am somebody who is just hating on Dee, he is definitely one of my mentors
@@Drstephenstokes hey, thanks for the detailed reply, man!
This is an interesting discussion: whether spirits are independent beings or figments of one´s imagination.
On one hand you have guys like Dr Stephen Skinner who´s a traditional grimoire magician, affirming that spiritual creatures are independent beings; on the other hand, golden dawn/thelema practitioners like Duquette who says spirits are at least partly psychological projections.
I lean toward the former explanation, as there are several accounts of possession by evil spirits documented by clinical psychiatrists consulting for Catholic priests. I´m reffering to well documented cases, with thorough physical and mental exams.
I agree with you, and of course I don't know the answer but I am the journey.@@henriquemonteiro3403
@@Drstephenstokes so you are saying that all of our esoteric experiences are mere metaphors and Dee's experience with angels was highly subjective? the problem with that is-- how does the individual mind interact with the collective mind? it would seem that at the very least, angels are intermediaries between the two.
Your findings on this are pure gold thank you for sharing , May the eternal one give you the time to finish the work commended onto you . Magick must be rebuilt and resurrected is not lost. May order give you time to do so succesfully.
This content is...gold!
Thanks a lot for your teachings.
I've learned and clarified my own concepts.
I'll be waiting for your next lessons.
Thanks my good brethren
I'm so glad I found this, thank you for creating this content ❤
Amazing!!! Thanks. So good explanation about a this Magickal System. More videos please!
Asked for help found you immediately thereafter. Thanks man 😁👍
I’ve started to get a headache of occult wisdom but I’ll subscribe because you’re Australian.
As soon as I saw more Enochian content I clicked
same
@@1776Based do you practice?
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it has enochian
this is absolutely completely and utterly new and unknown to me prior to this video and your channel! I have happily subscribed as learning about these ancient modalities and possibly being able to interact with angelic beings, are both very important to my journey in this life… things are so sketchy in this world, so connecting with an ancient Divine, is definitely drawing my interest.. maybe by learning this, i will be able to vibrate lighter and brighter and help make a difference..🙏🏻💖✨🙏🏻💖.. i will listen now.. 👍🏼💫
Welcome to the channel
Thank you so much for sharing this with us all!
So the things of what I've been figuring out for years was actually what Enochian magic had figured out. However, I'd need to compare them. This is great, thank you!
Quality information. Thank you
You're welcome
I love this kind of content, thank you
If he made that. Heavy props.
I wish I could take credit for that. I bought it off Etsy about 9 or 10 years ago
You're welcome
Thank you!
Thank you for this knowledge is power
All i can say is WOW. Thank you friend
You are welcome
grateful and inspired - you are an excellent teacher. Great balance of both theoretical & practical knowledge. 🙏 I am decorating a temple and looking forward to practicing in a way guided by your work.
Thanks very much!
Excellent video, Frater.
Thanks
Thanks for the video! Newly subscribed
Thanks!
There is a key I have deciphered from by reading Don Milo’Dukette’s(?) 2 works that I haven’t seen anyone to date to have deciphered from it as of yet. Just throwing that out there as biblically speaking; there is a phone line between philosophy, prophecy, & divine providence.
So, what's the key?
Thank you
You're welcome
I remember what said
If you continue this than every1 will think its a trick. All i was doing was trying to alighn the people around me to the musical notes and fixing or healing them. I wasn't permitted due to the instructions i am given.
Excellent. Where did you get the wax disc from? Or did you make it?
I bought it off Etsy 9 or 10 years ago. There was someone who was making them
i just got back from hill have eye zone, this require parsing. thank you for mentioning hermes because i would have been lost--wow! . . .
Wow!
Yes nice but how will it help me to win the lotto and find my true love?
Everything related to Enochian is fascinating, but difficult to understand.
I saw this symbol back in a concert in 2022, the rock band "Tool" was displaying it on stage. I didnt know what it was, (I thought it was some kind of Satanic Pentagram or something malevolant. Then I did research and it lead me to this, the Sigillum Dei Aemeth and a Pagan symbol used by Allester Crowley A∴A∴ order.
Im assuming the band members are magik practitioners and believe in Enochian Angels or the occult.
That is really interesting, I wasn't aware they used it in their art.
The book the magus has a lot of information about the names, ifyour into this. Thanks
Yes, thanks. I have a copy of it floating around somewhere
The source is I Ching
Problem with john dee was he was focused on buried treasure when he was evoking these angels.
Based on the person he was i would be highly cautious of any of his work.
Also understand he needed edward kelly for just about everything he did regarding any of this.
Feel like I'm in Hogwarts. LOVE it! 😁😁
Does earth have a divine representative ?
Sandalphon
I’m here because I study TOOL and Danny Carey
I'm i the only one that finds him more handsome than ever?
Me too😅
The shape is an arrow folded in on itself
👍
great teaching but i study 12 planets probly 13
can you do magic then? summon or release fire ball out of nowhere?
😂
That’s not what magic is. Harry Potter and Gandalf are fictional beings.
Ive had to make two..i was so excited when the forst one was level and i engraved it ..i showed my wife and dropped it lol
😎🤘
you dont need any tools to talk to angels tho
Similar to IFA...
I don't understand why people use Enochian magic. >.>
Because they are too stupid to create their own formula to practice.
Communion with angels
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First comment?
Spoiler Alert; Jesus Wins.
Yes and the Bible is the greatest magic book of all..Magic is saturated with Hebrew letters and symbols..Why is that?? You ever wonder??
Who’s saying he doesn’t? Did you watch the video?
@@jordanbey870 Revelation 21:8 - But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and SORCERERS, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
😘
Go away
Okay
If it's magic I want no part of it thank you that's what appear in my room I'll burn it
Jesus is King
The Enochian angels agree
@@LiftingtheLamp no they dont, they told Dee and Kelly that worshipping Jesus is dishonoring God. It is in Dee's diary.
Xamaco deja ahí o te va absorber Baal 🎃👹
Seems like a system created as a hobby from a cryptographer, and sold like angelic. Very human system rather than angelic.
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