Come back! Please do more Breville content! We love these machines and use them everyday. Lelit, Slayer, and La Marzocco machines are certainly gorgeous but likely very few viewers will ever be able to afford them. Recipes, mods, and workflow tips that show everyone how to get the most and best out of a Breville would be awesome. I know you already have covered many of these topics but do ‘em again! lol As you yourself get more experience with well-regarded and prestigious machines, please don’t forget about the little guy who is pulling their first shots off a $300 Bambino using the single wall basket. Remember that guy please!
Honestly a must have for beginners is a dosing funnel, it keeps your workspace clean and avoids unnecessary frustration! I would have also included the scale and WDT Tool for better shots and to help with channeling issues.
Hi Kyle, I have been using Breville Barista Espress for a while and after I finish my first shot (I can get a great shot of espresso) I can't maintain the consistency as the first one (I havent changed anything from the first shot), did you have same consistency issue when you used to have Barista Espresso? Cheers and thanks
Hey. I would recommend getting a very accurate scale off Amazon to keep dosing consistent. And then also find how much pressure you’re applying while tamping - do it on top of a weigh scale. I found these things helped me with consistency. Cheers!
What about a single dose hopper with bellows? ... I find that there is always a little bit of stale coffee left in the grinder and need to flush it out
Hi Kyle. I got a bottomless portafilter for my barista express, though its not exactly of high quality. I noticed that when I started using it, when I extract my espresso, the grouphead sometimes spits water on the sides of the portafilter. Why does that happen?
I don't think you need the handle or a naked portafilter. I would say my list would be: 1. IMS/VST filter basket 2. Tamper/distributor, and 3. WDT tool.4. Dosing funnel 5. Puck screen. All can be had for less than $100 and get you making coffee more consistently which will make the process more enjoyable and then you can spend money on a handle, naked portafilter, zero retention hopper.
4th “must have “ accessory (also from Crema) is their recently released 54mm (53.4) SS (in brushed or black) dosing cup. This thing is the bomb (I unboxed/reviewed it on my channel).
@@KyleRowsell and if you look @ Hoon's channel, he puts the Crema dosing cup on his Niche and shows it fits perfectly. Can't believe this component size segment has been ignored for so long. Glad that's changing.
Hi Kyle! Im thinking about buying the Barista Pro, so a few questions on the bottomless. I heard you say that it comes with a basket, but on Crema's site they sell additional basket. Is it any different or better the the stock one? Also is there a precision basket that fits this bottomless without any hacks or modifications? Love the channel and the Bianca setup! ☕️🙌
I'd love it if someone could comment/educate me on this as it's been rolling around in my head about these tamper/distributors for some time but never got around to saying anything . I have a Barista Express myself and have been using it daily for the last 2 years. I also am a home roaster and love to roast/try different beans every couple weeks so the coffee I put through it varies quite a bit. As a result I tend to spend a fair amount of time getting the machine dialed in from a grind/time perspective to hit the ratios I prefer. You've got to do this to get the most out of each shot. I whole heartedly agree that replacing the plastic tamp that came with the machine is valuable. However, when I was considering these tamper/distributors I decided to go with a LuxHaus calibrated pressure tamper instead because regardless of the coffee I brewed I wanted to maintain a consistent tamp pressure. So, I definitely see the value in the distributor and may still get one someday, but using it as a tamp also seems like it may be more trouble than it is worth. If someone likes to try different coffees like I do then they'll quickly discover that different coffees will have different densities which affect the volume of coffee that goes into the portafilter. It isn't too difficult to choke the Barista express which you can do easily enough with tamping with too much pressure and/or too fine a grind. That's where I see these things being used as a tamper being problematic since they are calibrated by distance (bottoming out on the rim of the portafilter) vs actual tamp pressure. I'm just not convinced using these distributors for tamping is all that helpful unless you hardly ever vary in your coffee. Love to hear other thoughts or where I may be thinking incorrectly.
This is a great response, thank you for it! I totally see your point about a calibrated tamper working better than a limited press tamper. I think this sort of accessory will sell to the one who wants to elevate their espresso, so they will have a decent understanding to dialling in coffee. While this may not always be true, I think they will have an idea that the tamper will have to be adjusted from time to time. Regardless of if they use the tamper or not... The distribution tool is fantastic.
I got that Steam Lever on a whim + installed it too, but I'm just not convinced it was needed. Like, does it really solve a problem? Or am I missing the point? Haha! Great video as always!
As someone that makes (on average) 3-5 drinks a day on my BBE, the stock knob makes the entire experience so much less enjoyable. Its hard to turn and kind of awkwardly placed. At the end of the day the stock knob gets the job done, but I feel like the lever would enhance the experience.
@@KyleRowsell Thanks for the update! It seems like they are virtually OOS everywhere and the 3rd party Breville 58mm bottomless portafilters cost way too much. Any chance you will know the drop date? Can't wait to get my hands on them ◡̈
@@KyleRowsell Hi - great video. I have the Breville Infuser with the 54 mm ports filter. The tamper/distributor comes up as 51 mm. I want to make sure that I am not missing something before I order.
Come on if you really believe this tamper is cheap you should see what delonghi adds to their machines under 120USD (this plastic spoon with tamper on the other side)
The only really useful out of the three is the adjustable tamper - the other two - just bling... (IMHO) What about dosing cups like Crema 53.4 mm or similar 3D printed ones? They eliminate spillage while grinding coffee using the built-in grinder which is a super-frustrating thing when grinding coffee directly into portafilter the way Breville designed it, and thus improve the user experience enormously! You haven't even mentioned dosing funnels, which, although not as effective as dosing cups, already offer some improvement in this regard...
Hey friend. Many of these options weren’t as readily available when I filmed this video. It also isn’t meant to be an in depth breakdown of everything out there, just there great options worth considering.
@@KyleRowsell the 54mm dosing funnels have been available forever. The first batch of Crema dosing cups (which I missed) was available in October or November 2020 (Crema's own video promoting it predates yours by a month), and different variants of 3D printed dosing cups for 54mm portafilters had been available even earlier than that.... What about thermometer stickers (or any other analog or digital thermometers) for the frothing cup?
Oh, boy, this is interesting and complicates things... I have been wanting to get into espresso, but don't have a ton of money. I considered getting a Barista Express (or even a Pro on sale) as a way to save money. But I was concerned that one or two years down the road, I would want to upgrade and end up spending the money again. So I had been thinking that maybe I should just jump straight into a Niche (when it's available), and a better machine, like a Rancilio or something. But I probably wouldn't be able to get that whole system together for at least 6 months or a year of saving money... This gives me more to think about, with the ability to upgrade the Breville machine...
I jumped from a Breville Cafe Roma to the Gaggia Classic Pro. I am loving the Gaggia and my espresso game has improved ten fold. It's a solid machine with commercial grade parts. There are also many upgrades to enhance its performance! Pair that with a great grinder and you're set for many years to come!
Tried all of them at my friends house. All are useless and do NOT make your coffee any better. Buy those if you just want aftermarket stuff,but don't buy if you want "better" coffee. Kyle is very wrong here and I hope he actually did the taste test to see that I am right. All of us are into coffee so much we actually roast our own coffee - none saw any difference in nearly a dozen accessories, including all 3 mentioned here.
Come back! Please do more Breville content! We love these machines and use them everyday. Lelit, Slayer, and La Marzocco machines are certainly gorgeous but likely very few viewers will ever be able to afford them. Recipes, mods, and workflow tips that show everyone how to get the most and best out of a Breville would be awesome. I know you already have covered many of these topics but do ‘em again! lol As you yourself get more experience with well-regarded and prestigious machines, please don’t forget about the little guy who is pulling their first shots off a $300 Bambino using the single wall basket. Remember that guy please!
Oh don’t worry! I’ve got lots of budget equipment videos on the way
Thank you! Exactly the video I needed. Bought all the suggested products and sub’d
would it also work for breville bambino plus the portafilter?
Honestly a must have for beginners is a dosing funnel, it keeps your workspace clean and avoids unnecessary frustration! I would have also included the scale and WDT Tool for better shots and to help with channeling issues.
Hi Kyle, I have been using Breville Barista Espress for a while and after I finish my first shot (I can get a great shot of espresso) I can't maintain the consistency as the first one (I havent changed anything from the first shot), did you have same consistency issue when you used to have Barista Espresso?
Cheers and thanks
Hey. I would recommend getting a very accurate scale off Amazon to keep dosing consistent. And then also find how much pressure you’re applying while tamping - do it on top of a weigh scale. I found these things helped me with consistency. Cheers!
Does replacing the steam wand void warranty though?
I think so. I just bought my breville and want the wand but don’t want to void the warranty.
What about a single dose hopper with bellows? ... I find that there is always a little bit of stale coffee left in the grinder and need to flush it out
That's no steam wand... It's a steam lever :)
I have these products, they are great
Hi Kyle.
I got a bottomless portafilter for my barista express, though its not exactly of high quality. I noticed that when I started using it, when I extract my espresso, the grouphead sometimes spits water on the sides of the portafilter. Why does that happen?
You’re awesome, 100%!!!!! My wife and I love your content:)
Wow, thank you!
What is your opinion on superautomatic espresso machines like the philip's ones?
I don't think you need the handle or a naked portafilter. I would say my list would be: 1. IMS/VST filter basket 2. Tamper/distributor, and 3. WDT tool.4. Dosing funnel 5. Puck screen. All can be had for less than $100 and get you making coffee more consistently which will make the process more enjoyable and then you can spend money on a handle, naked portafilter, zero retention hopper.
How is this a recommendation if they sent them to you?
Why wouldn't it be? Just because I've been sent something doesn't mean I enjoy it.
Can you please add links to the products?
I did check out the description.
What is a distributer?
Two fire videos in one week? Come on, lets go!
A third tomorrow 👀
4th “must have “ accessory (also from Crema) is their recently released 54mm (53.4) SS (in brushed or black) dosing cup. This thing is the bomb (I unboxed/reviewed it on my channel).
It would be perfect for a niche zero owner
@@KyleRowsell and if you look @ Hoon's channel, he puts the Crema dosing cup on his Niche and shows it fits perfectly. Can't believe this component size segment has been ignored for so long. Glad that's changing.
Great videos man, keep em comin
I will!
Hey, thanks for this! Do these crema products work with the barista pro???
Yes they do
Hi Kyle!
Im thinking about buying the Barista Pro, so a few questions on the bottomless. I heard you say that it comes with a basket, but on Crema's site they sell additional basket. Is it any different or better the the stock one? Also is there a precision basket that fits this bottomless without any hacks or modifications?
Love the channel and the Bianca setup! ☕️🙌
They just released the dosing cup for the Barista Express, is it worth the $35?
That’s up to you!
I'd love it if someone could comment/educate me on this as it's been rolling around in my head about these tamper/distributors for some time but never got around to saying anything . I have a Barista Express myself and have been using it daily for the last 2 years. I also am a home roaster and love to roast/try different beans every couple weeks so the coffee I put through it varies quite a bit. As a result I tend to spend a fair amount of time getting the machine dialed in from a grind/time perspective to hit the ratios I prefer. You've got to do this to get the most out of each shot. I whole heartedly agree that replacing the plastic tamp that came with the machine is valuable. However, when I was considering these tamper/distributors I decided to go with a LuxHaus calibrated pressure tamper instead because regardless of the coffee I brewed I wanted to maintain a consistent tamp pressure. So, I definitely see the value in the distributor and may still get one someday, but using it as a tamp also seems like it may be more trouble than it is worth. If someone likes to try different coffees like I do then they'll quickly discover that different coffees will have different densities which affect the volume of coffee that goes into the portafilter. It isn't too difficult to choke the Barista express which you can do easily enough with tamping with too much pressure and/or too fine a grind. That's where I see these things being used as a tamper being problematic since they are calibrated by distance (bottoming out on the rim of the portafilter) vs actual tamp pressure. I'm just not convinced using these distributors for tamping is all that helpful unless you hardly ever vary in your coffee. Love to hear other thoughts or where I may be thinking incorrectly.
This is a great response, thank you for it! I totally see your point about a calibrated tamper working better than a limited press tamper. I think this sort of accessory will sell to the one who wants to elevate their espresso, so they will have a decent understanding to dialling in coffee. While this may not always be true, I think they will have an idea that the tamper will have to be adjusted from time to time. Regardless of if they use the tamper or not... The distribution tool is fantastic.
I got that Steam Lever on a whim + installed it too, but I'm just not convinced it was needed. Like, does it really solve a problem? Or am I missing the point? Haha! Great video as always!
Probably not. Mostly aesthetics and small increase in workflow. Nothing to write home about
As someone that makes (on average) 3-5 drinks a day on my BBE, the stock knob makes the entire experience so much less enjoyable. Its hard to turn and kind of awkwardly placed. At the end of the day the stock knob gets the job done, but I feel like the lever would enhance the experience.
@@robertvelluso1562 great thought
@@robertvelluso1562 plus it's hard to turn because of the lack of leverage/grip
@@slow_clumsy totally agree
Not sure how you landed on my recommendation, but I’m glad it did. Love the vids.
I'm glad I did too :)
@@KyleRowsell is it easy to replace the wand?
@@voltaire7412 you do have to remove the outer shell to install but it’s not difficult by any means.
Any idea if Crema will be making a bottomless portafilter for the Breville range in 58mm?
I don't know if that will be happening. I hope so, but they seem to be geared towards a niche of smaller portafilters.
There's plenty 58mm pf out there for brevilles
I got a response from crema. They are working on one currently.
@@KyleRowsell Thanks for the update! It seems like they are virtually OOS everywhere and the 3rd party Breville 58mm bottomless portafilters cost way too much. Any chance you will know the drop date? Can't wait to get my hands on them ◡̈
@@chrisl8594 I dont! Sorry
Wow that lever looks great! It's the one thing I don't like about my new Barista Express. The dial is just awkward.
Does adding the lever void the warranty?? Sometimes a company does not like people modding their machines.
YES! Thank you! I've been looking for exactly that kind of distributor/tamper that fit my Barista Express.
Glad I could help!
@@KyleRowsell Hi - great video. I have the Breville Infuser with the 54 mm ports filter. The tamper/distributor comes up as 51 mm. I want to make sure that I am not missing something before I order.
If Crema comes out with something, you should buy it
Wait, steam wand?? Or just the "knob"? Now I'm confused 😅
Come on if you really believe this tamper is cheap you should see what delonghi adds to their machines under 120USD (this plastic spoon with tamper on the other side)
Yep, that spoon/tamper thing was hilarious. Trying to decide on pulling the trigger on the Barista Pro.
I developed back pain just by watching this video..
Nice
😍
My man!
Here to help!
No deliveries from China at the moment 😁
The only really useful out of the three is the adjustable tamper - the other two - just bling... (IMHO)
What about dosing cups like Crema 53.4 mm or similar 3D printed ones? They eliminate spillage while grinding coffee using the built-in grinder which is a super-frustrating thing when grinding coffee directly into portafilter the way Breville designed it, and thus improve the user experience enormously! You haven't even mentioned dosing funnels, which, although not as effective as dosing cups, already offer some improvement in this regard...
Hey friend. Many of these options weren’t as readily available when I filmed this video. It also isn’t meant to be an in depth breakdown of everything out there, just there great options worth considering.
@@KyleRowsell the 54mm dosing funnels have been available forever. The first batch of Crema dosing cups (which I missed) was available in October or November 2020 (Crema's own video promoting it predates yours by a month), and different variants of 3D printed dosing cups for 54mm portafilters had been available even earlier than that....
What about thermometer stickers (or any other analog or digital thermometers) for the frothing cup?
The Breville tamper is by no means cheap, plastic or light
Oh, boy, this is interesting and complicates things... I have been wanting to get into espresso, but don't have a ton of money. I considered getting a Barista Express (or even a Pro on sale) as a way to save money. But I was concerned that one or two years down the road, I would want to upgrade and end up spending the money again. So I had been thinking that maybe I should just jump straight into a Niche (when it's available), and a better machine, like a Rancilio or something. But I probably wouldn't be able to get that whole system together for at least 6 months or a year of saving money... This gives me more to think about, with the ability to upgrade the Breville machine...
Glad this video has helped!
I jumped from a Breville Cafe Roma to the Gaggia Classic Pro. I am loving the Gaggia and my espresso game has improved ten fold. It's a solid machine with commercial grade parts. There are also many upgrades to enhance its performance! Pair that with a great grinder and you're set for many years to come!
ugly, hard to use, disgusting knob? thanks for telling me ! i never had any trouble turning it. how could it be disgusting???
Don’t take it personally. It’s just not a well engineered part.
@@KyleRowsell wrong,.... on both counts.....
It is cheap looking and feels cheap. The lever is a nice to have accessory. Is it worth it? Not sure.
The tamper /diffuser is awesome though.
Stop feeling satisfied when you could be spending money! Pay pay pay!
Been using it for seven years, never had a problem with it...
Steam lever my man, not steam wand.
I feel like a 5 year old with you talking down on us 😂
geez what a shill video...
Tried all of them at my friends house. All are useless and do NOT make your coffee any better. Buy those if you just want aftermarket stuff,but don't buy if you want "better" coffee. Kyle is very wrong here and I hope he actually did the taste test to see that I am right. All of us are into coffee so much we actually roast our own coffee - none saw any difference in nearly a dozen accessories, including all 3 mentioned here.