amazing video. I loved it. I just noticed a few mistakes you made and decided to point them out to help you, still a great video, though ❤️: • You moved to agrarianism too quickly because of the bureaucracy deficit • I like to get rid of poor laws straight away for more money • I like to build more construction than 50 at the start so I can expand my economy quicker • lower the autonomy of Joseon straight away so you get more tax from them • You shouldn't have max gold reserves because all the money goes to waste (I like to stay around the 25% full gold reserves) • You also tried to get of monarchy way to quickly causing that massive civil war (which you were extremely lucky to win) • When a revolution is about to happen, there's a number in brackets next to it, and if that's lower than 100, then the revolution will never pop • You can use your authority to bolster or suppress different interest groups
Thanks for your pointers. I didn't really notice the poor laws until I removed them so I totally agree. The construction was mainly due to a lack of cash, I don't really remember having max good reserves at any point. With the civil war, yeah i agree that it was a little stupid, but I got what I wanted soooo. And even though it didn't make the video I did use authority at the start to bolster the industrialists
no,no,no. china should aim for single party state and then council or presidential republic. set workers rights to none, wage subsidides to none, and dissent laws to outlaw dissents. this is historiacl and why they are such a huge menance today.
Great video, really enjoyed it. i have a few suggestions for your future playthroughs 1) focus your industries, by not centralizing them, you failed to utilize the throughput bonus and that makes a huge cumulative impact. also try and localize production chains as MAPI basically punishes you for moving goods outside a province 2) dont use labour saving pms nor rail transportation as that employs less people (when playing as china, labour is almost infinite so you should focus on giving people jobs rather than making the existing jobs more efficient) 3)get rid of unemployment, Unemployed people are a drain on your economy, with them causing unrest and getting paid for their social benefits.(so allowing internal migration and focusing your building in states with unemployment. 4) get rid of peasants, they consume only 10% of what a regular POP does and give very little in terms of taxes. Best way to do this is to build lumber yards and rice farms. 5) remember to build lots of basic consumer goods(rice, lumber , clothing and groceries), you showed how labourers had a really bad SoL whilst peasants had a really high one. that happens because basic goods that peasants produce are expensive whilst the labourers cant afford to buy them. you want the reverse situation so that the peasants are encouraged to work in industry. 6) switch to better tax laws as soon as they are profitable, because of how tax burden and SoL demand orders work, the more progressive the tax, the more demand for goods in your economy> more GDP. so in summary , get rid of unemployed pops, then peasants and only when you run out of people do you use labour saving PM's. build out your economy with a MASSIVE amount of wood production and rice farms(until they dont employ because they cant make a profit). liberalize as fast as you can as it will help your economy which will make further reform easier. there are many more things(use more institutions and overbuilding universities), but those are the main ones. Hope this helps
yeah but mapi also means that having all of your furniture and textile mills in one state make them expensive as all hell everywhere else so its kinda a double edged sword
The reason I ended the video so abruptly was that the game was taking too long to film due to the slower game speeds. I'd already recorded the video over 3 days already and didn't want it to keep going onto a 4th day just to get the last 10 or so years. I hope you enjoyed it despite the ending.
One main problem I always feel whenever i try to play China is that a lot of the most logical early reforms (some form of education and dedicated police force) are insistutions, every level of institutions in China is insane cost cause of the comically large population compared to almost every other country in the game, at least at starting date.
As someone who's done a ton of China runs, a couple things I noticed: 1) Get rid of poor laws first. It saves you so much in terms of bureaucracy and money. 2) The correct play in the opium wars is to ask for war reparations and force recognition and then navally invade Singapore with your smallest army in a one boat fleet. Great Britain almost never garrisons it so you can take it and force ticking war score. Then its just a matter of just waiting until your position is bad enough that you need to declare white peace or waiting until Britain has to accept war reparations and recognition.
Smithy love the video and a few lucky breaks only half way through the video but love what you are doing the one thing I noticed tho is you didn't know about the expenses of your country it goes week by week for your economy and needs for industry and the time on top right with the gold bar is the tick or turn used in that time. Victoria 3 amazing game and would like to stream again as I do alright and have a good understanding on how to control the world
Why you had such a high budget deficit: I reckon it has to do with the poor laws the Qing start with, which causes you to pay tons in unemployment subsidies. It's better to repeal this law asap and that also frees up around 4k bureaucracy, which can be used to either colonise or enact a first level of police or education
Sadly, the professional army actually boosts the landowner clout when there are many aristocrats. Peasant levies attract them to the armed forces, because they can become officers, so under PA more aristocrats stay with the landlords.
A somewhat gamey tip is to trade Tomsk for Alaska early game. While Alaska itself isn't great (except for its gold), it gives you a foothold in the Americas and you can actually beat up Canada to take a land bridge with the US (if they become a pain or if you want to force recognition on them after you fix up your military... tho unless you manage to take British Columbia off Canada without fighting the UK, you really should have already forced recognition from the UK anyways...). Oh, and never get a revolution in Qing. The rebels will *always* outnumber you and ruin all your armies and economy.
A lot of people are leaving amazing tips but if you wnat to learn some deeper mechanics of the game and just overall how to be better at it i strongly strongly recommend generalist gaming he has multiple tutorials and some very in depth ones about construction efficiency labor per construction MAPI etc.
Great video, but one thing I would say is, moving from Peasant Levies -> Professional Army actually cements more power to the Landowners than staying - Professional Army means that the Armed Forces get less support from non-army pops. The increased support from Army pops is counteracted by the millions of political strength from the ~30% aristocratic support for the Forces on peasant levies who the mostly defect to the Landowners. There's a great video on this here: ruclips.net/video/dLJAG8F6GIo/видео.html , using Russia (a similar example because of the massive population base).
I don't think so, I'd definitely give Vic a go as hopefully the next update and DLC improve many of the features and bring lacking features in like foreign investment.
Pro tip: Move captial away from Beijin so brits can't land there, prioritize line infantry in research, and you will be able to win the opium war very easily. OR ally russia like you did haha.
Great video man! Keep it up. Can u make the next victoria 3 episode, playing as fascist Germany for exemple? Because everyone are making democratic runs
I will watch full video later but from first 10 minutes pls town down a music in background its too loud for your voice I can baerly hear what you are saying 😂 good video othervise
Professional army is trap, data timelapses did a comprehensive video on breaking down how that law change affects the clout and infact it might as well be a waste of time for its supposed impact.
Dude killin me with building one of everything in every state. Build to market scale in your provinces. U only gained about 300million gdp you should easily be above 1 billion by 1870 and multiple billions by 1920.
Very nice video but seeing you have such a massive (albeit primitive) military and not using it to force your neighbours to become tributaries or lower autonomy was difficult to watch. You have a massive population, use it to crush your neighbours and get some tributary money out of it that you can use to invest in your economy. The lower the autonomy, the higher your tax revenue from them, and your military was mostly sitting around anyways.
amazing video. I loved it. I just noticed a few mistakes you made and decided to point them out to help you, still a great video, though ❤️:
• You moved to agrarianism too quickly because of the bureaucracy deficit
• I like to get rid of poor laws straight away for more money
• I like to build more construction than 50 at the start so I can expand my economy quicker
• lower the autonomy of Joseon straight away so you get more tax from them
• You shouldn't have max gold reserves because all the money goes to waste (I like to stay around the 25% full gold reserves)
• You also tried to get of monarchy way to quickly causing that massive civil war (which you were extremely lucky to win)
• When a revolution is about to happen, there's a number in brackets next to it, and if that's lower than 100, then the revolution will never pop
• You can use your authority to bolster or suppress different interest groups
Thanks for your pointers. I didn't really notice the poor laws until I removed them so I totally agree. The construction was mainly due to a lack of cash, I don't really remember having max good reserves at any point. With the civil war, yeah i agree that it was a little stupid, but I got what I wanted soooo. And even though it didn't make the video I did use authority at the start to bolster the industrialists
@SmithySmith, oh yeah, I didn't think about what might not make the video. just wanted to help, much love, and I'm looking forward to more videos ❤
I love getting the help, so keep it coming. Thanks for watching the videos!
no,no,no. china should aim for single party state and then council or presidential republic. set workers rights to none, wage subsidides to none, and dissent laws to outlaw dissents. this is historiacl and why they are such a huge menance today.
Great video, really enjoyed it. i have a few suggestions for your future playthroughs
1) focus your industries, by not centralizing them, you failed to utilize the throughput bonus and that makes a huge cumulative impact. also try and localize production chains as MAPI basically punishes you for moving goods outside a province
2) dont use labour saving pms nor rail transportation as that employs less people (when playing as china, labour is almost infinite so you should focus on giving people jobs rather than making the existing jobs more efficient)
3)get rid of unemployment, Unemployed people are a drain on your economy, with them causing unrest and getting paid for their social benefits.(so allowing internal migration and focusing your building in states with unemployment.
4) get rid of peasants, they consume only 10% of what a regular POP does and give very little in terms of taxes. Best way to do this is to build lumber yards and rice farms.
5) remember to build lots of basic consumer goods(rice, lumber , clothing and groceries), you showed how labourers had a really bad SoL whilst peasants had a really high one. that happens because basic goods that peasants produce are expensive whilst the labourers cant afford to buy them. you want the reverse situation so that the peasants are encouraged to work in industry.
6) switch to better tax laws as soon as they are profitable, because of how tax burden and SoL demand orders work, the more progressive the tax, the more demand for goods in your economy> more GDP.
so in summary , get rid of unemployed pops, then peasants and only when you run out of people do you use labour saving PM's. build out your economy with a MASSIVE amount of wood production and rice farms(until they dont employ because they cant make a profit). liberalize as fast as you can as it will help your economy which will make further reform easier.
there are many more things(use more institutions and overbuilding universities), but those are the main ones. Hope this helps
Thanks for the help I'll be sure to include these in my next playthroughs and videos
I got to the point of grain production I essentially could crash Europe's economy by leveling export tariffs because they were eating so much
yeah but mapi also means that having all of your furniture and textile mills in one state make them expensive as all hell everywhere else so its kinda a double edged sword
The shortages towards the end of the video were causing laods of your issues i believe
The reason I ended the video so abruptly was that the game was taking too long to film due to the slower game speeds. I'd already recorded the video over 3 days already and didn't want it to keep going onto a 4th day just to get the last 10 or so years. I hope you enjoyed it despite the ending.
Bro the background music is so relaxing, I'm not used to this
Im still not set on the music, it's very divided. Glad you like it
It's great! I'm at around 5 minutes and the Klezmer is fire
@@SmithySmith I LOVE THE MUSIC! its so different from other vids, so relaxing
Glad you all like it!
One main problem I always feel whenever i try to play China is that a lot of the most logical early reforms (some form of education and dedicated police force) are insistutions, every level of institutions in China is insane cost cause of the comically large population compared to almost every other country in the game, at least at starting date.
Yeah, thats why I never got policing in the run. When I had the interest groups that want policing. I simply couldn't afford it so I didn't get it.
Fun fact, you can also avoid the british getting a treaty port by releasing the state their wargoal is in as a puppet...
As someone who's done a ton of China runs, a couple things I noticed: 1) Get rid of poor laws first. It saves you so much in terms of bureaucracy and money. 2) The correct play in the opium wars is to ask for war reparations and force recognition and then navally invade Singapore with your smallest army in a one boat fleet. Great Britain almost never garrisons it so you can take it and force ticking war score. Then its just a matter of just waiting until your position is bad enough that you need to declare white peace or waiting until Britain has to accept war reparations and recognition.
Smithy love the video and a few lucky breaks only half way through the video but love what you are doing the one thing I noticed tho is you didn't know about the expenses of your country it goes week by week for your economy and needs for industry and the time on top right with the gold bar is the tick or turn used in that time. Victoria 3 amazing game and would like to stream again as I do alright and have a good understanding on how to control the world
Thanks for the help!
HEY WHATS THAT ONE CHUNK OF SIBERIA THATS MAJORITY POLISH???
pretty sure the money is weekly due to the green bar at the top
They should modify the costumes in East Asia, especially the characters after the feudal dynasties were overthrown.
Yeah
Why you had such a high budget deficit: I reckon it has to do with the poor laws the Qing start with, which causes you to pay tons in unemployment subsidies. It's better to repeal this law asap and that also frees up around 4k bureaucracy, which can be used to either colonise or enact a first level of police or education
You'll see that I got rid of it eventually
Entertaining,loved the video
Sadly, the professional army actually boosts the landowner clout when there are many aristocrats.
Peasant levies attract them to the armed forces, because they can become officers, so under PA more aristocrats stay with the landlords.
nice soundtrack you put on your vid
Thanks
Oh you've never heard of the legendary china economy crash in vic2 have you?
Nope, never played vic2.
@@SmithySmith china modernising just causes shit to happen, it's disgusting, infinite craftsmen causing world shortages.
Well, I know china got such massive economies in Vic3 that the game would crash, but that bug was fixed (integer overflow) so..
Just discovered your channel, that Opening voice sound like feedback gaming voice, I guess you're both are British.
I don't hear it, but I've had a few comments.
Interest is per week, like every other expense
A somewhat gamey tip is to trade Tomsk for Alaska early game. While Alaska itself isn't great (except for its gold), it gives you a foothold in the Americas and you can actually beat up Canada to take a land bridge with the US (if they become a pain or if you want to force recognition on them after you fix up your military... tho unless you manage to take British Columbia off Canada without fighting the UK, you really should have already forced recognition from the UK anyways...).
Oh, and never get a revolution in Qing. The rebels will *always* outnumber you and ruin all your armies and economy.
If you get a defensive pact with Russia they will help you beat a revolution. But it depends if they start the game as ‘Protective’.
A lot of people are leaving amazing tips but if you wnat to learn some deeper mechanics of the game and just overall how to be better at it i strongly strongly recommend generalist gaming he has multiple tutorials and some very in depth ones about construction efficiency labor per construction MAPI etc.
Thanks. I appreciate all the help and I'll have a look at the channel.
Great video, but one thing I would say is, moving from Peasant Levies -> Professional Army actually cements more power to the Landowners than staying - Professional Army means that the Armed Forces get less support from non-army pops. The increased support from Army pops is counteracted by the millions of political strength from the ~30% aristocratic support for the Forces on peasant levies who the mostly defect to the Landowners.
There's a great video on this here: ruclips.net/video/dLJAG8F6GIo/видео.html , using Russia (a similar example because of the massive population base).
Proceeds to declare republic: out
52:20 I'm not playing vic, is it a common thing to have Polish in the middle of Siberia?
I don't think so, I'd definitely give Vic a go as hopefully the next update and DLC improve many of the features and bring lacking features in like foreign investment.
great video but might be even better without the music in the background(usually videos like this don't have that)
Love the democratic flag
Pro tip: Move captial away from Beijin so brits can't land there, prioritize line infantry in research, and you will be able to win the opium war very easily.
OR ally russia like you did haha.
Mate that background music is WAY too loud
Check the more modern videos... all fixed now. Sorry about that
If Taiwan conquered China 😅😂:
Great video man! Keep it up. Can u make the next victoria 3 episode, playing as fascist Germany for exemple? Because everyone are making democratic runs
Im currently in the process of making a fascist run, so keep an eye out for it.
I did a fascist Germany run the other week, and an agitator named Adolf Schmidtler showed up. (he wanted free trade)
I will watch full video later but from first 10 minutes pls town down a music in background its too loud for your voice I can baerly hear what you are saying 😂 good video othervise
Sure I will in my next video
did you stay with land based taxation for the entire game? Wow.
Yeahhhh
It’s not profitable to charge until much later because of the massive number of peasants.
Bro is playing Klezmer in the background. 😂
Are you making a video of vic 3 or an advertisement of a charity foundation, like what is this music choice😂
Sorry, its gone as of my latest video
Great video
Thanks!
this is banned in West Taiwan
Not well played to be honest, either huge debt or maxed savings, unused authority, constant shortages of goods, low research etc.
he did say he hadn't played in a few months
Lets be honest a democratic china in Real world would be op.
Professional army is trap, data timelapses did a comprehensive video on breaking down how that law change affects the clout and infact it might as well be a waste of time for its supposed impact.
Do you use any mods or is this just a vanilla vic3 game?
Vanilla Victoria 3
bro moroccco is the hardest chaleng ever
Yes and it’s called Taiwan
you will play Krakow on the last patch
老兄，你真的需要練習多一點政治操作，不然這麼多內戰 很難受耶，搞定你的黨派引響力 增加合法性，不需要讓不適任的人操作國會
還有經濟跟稅收，不能這麼搞啊
先利用君主的集權 操作國策去削減舊時代貴族的引響力，進一步強化底層人民的生存空間 研究人權 廢除奴隸與佃農制 使耕者有其田、釋放人力的同時就可以大量的獲得人去工廠 、因此要先蓋出大量的農田與工廠保證無失業人口
因地制宜， 中國的土地與人口是世界上數一數二的多，就用這優勢去強化輸出能力
Dude killin me with building one of everything in every state. Build to market scale in your provinces. U only gained about 300million gdp you should easily be above 1 billion by 1870 and multiple billions by 1920.
Why the hell are the Polish in Siberia
At 52:20
@@ibrahimhema8273 lol
Oh yeah, I didn't notice that.
Gulag moment. F for poles (i'm pole too)
Winnie the Pooh gonna eat this video 😭
Play aceh and take over dutc eats indies
Democazy
*democracy is non-negotiable
play japan
I just gotta stop watching cause you you cant pronounce LITERATI
When do I say it? I can't find it within a 57min video
People's republic is better 😊
Communist?
Very nice video but seeing you have such a massive (albeit primitive) military and not using it to force your neighbours to become tributaries or lower autonomy was difficult to watch. You have a massive population, use it to crush your neighbours and get some tributary money out of it that you can use to invest in your economy. The lower the autonomy, the higher your tax revenue from them, and your military was mostly sitting around anyways.
In victoria 3, democracy, capitalism and liberalism are the most overpowered ways always, due to the realistic economic build system 🧉🗿🤌🏻
fool
end game is communism
Vicky3 is a marxist game