Playing The Worst Nation In Hearts Of Iron 4 Until I Have Fun

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  • Опубликовано: 24 окт 2024

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  • @just__mate
    @just__mate 9 часов назад +1111

    With how big and convoluted it is, the Turkish focus tree should really hide the paths that have become inaccessible to you.

    • @maxtex60n40
      @maxtex60n40 8 часов назад +39

      New DLC idea 😂

    • @halolong5461
      @halolong5461 8 часов назад +81

      ​@@maxtex60n40it's going to be $30 with this as a core feature and like 4 minor nations geting focus tree

    • @luna_macaroni
      @luna_macaroni 8 часов назад

      But no relevant minors ​@@halolong5461

    • @northernmostrat
      @northernmostrat 7 часов назад +17

      Isn't there a setting that does that in the options menu?

    • @Coldwatercavs01
      @Coldwatercavs01 7 часов назад +43

      Only some nations seem to do it for whatever reason. Guess they didn’t care enough to update old focus trees

  • @tyrakodyrg2511
    @tyrakodyrg2511 8 часов назад +346

    Mr Timothy was my father, please just call me Gravy.

  • @huni1939
    @huni1939 9 часов назад +488

    The Turkish focus tree is about as understandable as the Navy in hoi4

    • @JudgeandJuri
      @JudgeandJuri 9 часов назад +50

      IDK man Navy seems less esoteric

    • @clementpruvost8670
      @clementpruvost8670 8 часов назад +6

      The only thing that I can put out with the focus tree is the Ottoman Empire.

    • @kaancesur-19
      @kaancesur-19 8 часов назад +1

      I understand it but i have played every single path

    • @olcia4bify
      @olcia4bify 8 часов назад

      Yes

    • @kaiser_wilhelm_II_of_germany
      @kaiser_wilhelm_II_of_germany 8 часов назад +6

      It doesn't help the fact that the mutual paths don't disappear like in other focus trees

  • @a_person_of_all_time
    @a_person_of_all_time 8 часов назад +198

    The entire tree is just 70d focus slop, and when you finally get to the bottom to the Turan part, it's decent but it's so late in the game it's literally useless

    • @ooo_Kim_Chi_ooo
      @ooo_Kim_Chi_ooo 7 часов назад

      By the time you get there Russia or Germany is already on the verge of capping and everyone is in the Allies so you can't do anything without it turning into a World Conquest.

    • @yengidemir
      @yengidemir 6 часов назад +1

      1943*

  • @keizervanenerc5180
    @keizervanenerc5180 8 часов назад +102

    Do you know where Turkey in Hoi4 is also infamous for? Randomly declaring war on tje Soviet Union while being in the allies while Historical AI is ON. That has repeatedly ruined games for me!
    (AI allies or Soviets already eating rocks against the Axis deciding it's a better idea to fight each other as well.....)

    • @veritusahriman9720
      @veritusahriman9720 6 часов назад +11

      It is honestly really annoying, I was doing everything I could to push into Italy as Allied Bulgaria, when all of a sudden some AI gremlin decides to open a second front right on my northern borders with the Soviets (I already capitulated Romania). I have to strat redeploy 75% of my army, losing northern Italy and got stuck in 'Mannerheim-mode' for 2 ingame years until my airforce clears up the opposition. I'm good with some 'operation unthinkable' action, but the Axis hadn't even capitulated yet.

    • @yengidemir
      @yengidemir 6 часов назад

      thats skill issue, no way you hae not capepd germans by 1943

    • @bigpoppa1234
      @bigpoppa1234 44 минуты назад

      I took my first long break from the game because of this and I've never gone back to Vanilla since either. I play on the hardest difficulty because of the brain dead AI at least in vanilla, so after a very long build up, finally holding back the germans at the gates of Moscow and preparing a counter-offensive, game instantly ruined by Turkey.

    • @qhu3878
      @qhu3878 23 минуты назад

      what thw actual fuck, I've played enough crusades in ck3 to know paradox ai has a mental disability but how is that even possible in a historical game

  • @playerspieler1122
    @playerspieler1122 8 часов назад +238

    There is also a "hidden" path where you go down the focus tree to reform the Ottoman Empire and get the civil war but instead of actually restoring the Sultan you can go down the reconfigure Turkish Foreign Policy path making everything you did for nothing and leaving the country in a limbo as the Provisional State of Anatolia.

    • @kaancesur-19
      @kaancesur-19 8 часов назад +43

      There's also a hidden event option if you don't do political focuses and your leader retires, you can get a hidden leader

    • @U87-z2w
      @U87-z2w 3 часа назад

      ​@@kaancesur-19who

    • @dripmaestrolxix4228
      @dripmaestrolxix4228 Час назад +1

      @@U87-z2wHidden

  • @Potatotenkopf
    @Potatotenkopf 7 часов назад +18

    I hope they make the Ottoman path easier to get now that they clearly dropped the "realism" bit with the Germany wins update.

  • @RikusentaiOfficial
    @RikusentaiOfficial 7 часов назад +15

    16:44 I know that TRIGGERED Canadians lmao

  • @ooo_Kim_Chi_ooo
    @ooo_Kim_Chi_ooo 7 часов назад +27

    The Turkish tree is stupid. It has some good focuses but by the time you there, everyone is guaranteed or WW2 has been going on for 3 years, there is next to no industrial focuses, everything is convoluted, and the most important parts of Turkiye during that time like the Kurdish resistance gets a bunch of button clicks. Turkiye, USA, and Japan are awful trees. Meanwhile, Paradox is giving us an entire South American trees for countries that had little to no influence in the war.

    • @valance10
      @valance10 7 часов назад +2

      Tbf turkey didnt do anything in ww2 either

    • @aviosche8951
      @aviosche8951 6 часов назад +4

      I like having focuses for minor nations even those that did nothing cuz I rather make my own history than copy paste what already happened. But seriously after the next dlcs they should rework some other nations including battle for bosphorus group

    • @doctorwhat779
      @doctorwhat779 6 часов назад +9

      ​@@valance10 I hate this argument. This is not just a ww2 game it is also an alt history game.

    • @valance10
      @valance10 6 часов назад +1

      @@doctorwhat779 true. I understand what the devs were trying to do with turkey but ultimately fun NEEDS to come first

    • @doctorwhat779
      @doctorwhat779 6 часов назад +4

      @@valance10 also true. I don't think focus tree is great but "x county tree not needed because not in ww2" is an annoying argument.

  • @NavyVet9702
    @NavyVet9702 8 часов назад +45

    ISP invading Iraq for oil.
    The Americans: ONE OF US! ONE OF US! ONE OF US!

  • @xeanderman6688
    @xeanderman6688 7 часов назад +9

    0:20 I thought T stands for "Let's sell some opium to China"

  • @timsdoingstuff
    @timsdoingstuff 5 часов назад +3

    The best part of any Isorrow video is that he always address me by name, and I really appreciate that.

  • @florianbielawa2919
    @florianbielawa2919 7 часов назад +4

    i was going for the ottoman achievement as turkey, didnt really read the event pop ups correctly so i was just casually locked out of the focus tree and had to start over lmao

  • @Donerci_Pikacu_Usta
    @Donerci_Pikacu_Usta 6 часов назад +5

    5:18 I have no idea why the game doesnt calls it the 12 islands. Who the hell is gonna know On iki means twelve.

  • @Thor_the_chad
    @Thor_the_chad 8 часов назад +7

    Damn, dude just released a turkey vid at the same time im having a vacation there. Baller

  • @Daniel-kq4bx
    @Daniel-kq4bx 7 часов назад +5

    Turkish invasion of Cyprus? I think I have seen that anime before

  • @RaeneeCarver-i3x
    @RaeneeCarver-i3x 7 часов назад +136

    Day 424 demanding ISP to form Mongolian empire with generic focus tree and minimal mods.💯💯

    • @Unepic_Smurfman
      @Unepic_Smurfman 7 часов назад +1

      i dont think its even a formable

    • @TheBiggersofLand
      @TheBiggersofLand 6 часов назад +1

      Keep going man. He’s never going to do it, but keep going.

    • @feisarpilot1257
      @feisarpilot1257 5 часов назад

      And cavalry only

    • @bobsemple07
      @bobsemple07 5 часов назад +1

      Bot

    • @tenanaciouz
      @tenanaciouz 3 часа назад

      Don't stop some dude programmed in a mod that makes a Mongolia formable without giving them a focus tree link him that from now on

  • @josephcola9662
    @josephcola9662 7 часов назад +3

    I'm not Turkish, but the Turkish focus tree is such a mess that I think I'd pay another $10 for a DLC that just disables it entirely.

  • @TangyGuest1
    @TangyGuest1 8 часов назад +46

    Least complicated HoI4 focus tree:

  • @JudgeandJuri
    @JudgeandJuri 9 часов назад +14

    Playing turkey is like being with your family during thanksgiving (For you non Americans/Canadians imagine christmas diner) It's filled with pointless pleasentries, there's lots of arguing, and at the end of it all you just want to nuke everything

    • @BoredDomino
      @BoredDomino 7 часов назад

      Sounds more like a you problem lmao

    • @warthunder7730
      @warthunder7730 6 часов назад

      Why are you separated Canadians like that lol

  • @rogueemerald
    @rogueemerald 5 часов назад +2

    For nostalgia November you should check out the warlord era mod successor autumn begonia

  • @greggorythefox722
    @greggorythefox722 7 часов назад +1

    Imagine a turkish spy, convincing some british bureaucrats, that collaborating with the Turkish Empire is a coll idea

  • @muleorastromule3491
    @muleorastromule3491 7 часов назад +1

    18th restart after messing up the Turkish tree: "Maybe I'll just not play Turkey ever again."

  • @BaguetteSolider
    @BaguetteSolider 4 часа назад +2

    I have ONLY done the Ottoman path in hoi4

  • @Daniel-wy3tc
    @Daniel-wy3tc Час назад

    Isorrow playing turkey talking about dealing with the Kurds.
    Swimmy moment

  • @Lysvsyl
    @Lysvsyl 2 часа назад

    Gaming RUclipsrs when they don't feel fulfilled in their career:
    "What if I tilt the screen? I am an artist!"
    To the annoyance of everyone.

  • @e102g2
    @e102g2 Час назад

    comedic timing of my headset.. "They are in africa just not the part they used to "BeeP" and then out of power xD

  • @N1ght_Breaker
    @N1ght_Breaker 8 часов назад

    1:50
    ISP, if you are on historical the Soviets are hard coded to back down every time even though the Brits abandon you, as long as you keep standing up to the pressure without caving. But obviously that's only on historical, if you're on nonhistorical you better be praying to the RNG gods lol

  • @bobreto
    @bobreto 6 часов назад

    Funny thing about turkey is when I played soviets i puppetd this Nation but after a year they Turner democratic and had ottoman civil war (still as my puppet and the Republic took constantinopol from me (i annexed it when the bosphorus crisis happend)

  • @commandantcarpenter
    @commandantcarpenter 2 часа назад

    2:05 "kamalism"

  • @ondrajankuj156
    @ondrajankuj156 7 часов назад +2

    Well... when i read the title I thought the video will be infinite.

  • @Diamond_Brony
    @Diamond_Brony 5 часов назад

    The point is, Turkey is the country no one ever plays, since realistically Luxembourg is higher in the list of the choices for playable countries than Turkey for 99.99 players anyway...
    The point is, since no one plays Turkey, no one really does any of the paths, so.... You could do anything, really.

  • @Shellslime
    @Shellslime 5 часов назад

    "Band-aid"? What will his majesty think of such Americanisms?!

  • @oniki_
    @oniki_ 8 часов назад +6

    oniki reference!?1/1 3:11

    • @Oniki1y
      @Oniki1y 8 часов назад +1

      ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

    • @monariza.
      @monariza. 7 часов назад

      Oniki means "12" in Turkish

  • @that1guy975
    @that1guy975 4 часа назад +4

    I'm gonna say it: I enjoy the Turkish and Greek focus trees. Crucify me all you want, I shall die on this hill.

  • @Turkish_natonilist
    @Turkish_natonilist 8 часов назад +11

    As a turkish person i do not support the paradox devs THEY butcherd our country

  • @ScotchWhiskey864
    @ScotchWhiskey864 7 часов назад

    I'm feeling nostalgic for Regnum Bosphori
    If only there was a month to bring back the Roman client state
    This message was brought to you by Timmy 136,925 of the I Sloppidy Poppity Rat association

  • @NormalChannel95
    @NormalChannel95 7 часов назад +3

    Bring the Rodent 🐭🐭

  • @beeschurgergaming
    @beeschurgergaming 5 часов назад

    YOU PROMISED US THE SULTANATE
    #GIVEUSAUSSA

  • @TheStonewall117
    @TheStonewall117 6 часов назад

    Lowkey surprised the USSR didn't crush Germany when it was struggling so badly through most of the video.

  • @WappleFan
    @WappleFan 5 часов назад

    this won’t make us forget what you tweeted, iSlicePreemies

  • @SayoriReal
    @SayoriReal 4 часа назад +1

    Navy only soviet union when

  • @Alex-xh9wo
    @Alex-xh9wo 6 часов назад

    The HOI4 will continue until morale improves

  • @zedgy3559
    @zedgy3559 8 часов назад +19

    Day 424 demanding ISP to form Mongolian empire with generic focus tree and minimal mods.

  • @DroidDeca_
    @DroidDeca_ 8 часов назад +2

    Why must your torture us with this turkey content even though you know we can turn it off anytime you know we wont

  • @tvqh
    @tvqh 8 часов назад +12

    Thanks god the "rat" spamming finally stopped.

  • @P1kaSans
    @P1kaSans 8 часов назад

    suffering cheese man gobbles up an entire türkiye!

  • @Crusader1089
    @Crusader1089 3 часа назад

    I think the Kurds and Armenians would say it's a Turkish empire, controlling lots of land which rightfully belongs to people who are not Turks.

  • @70blaziken
    @70blaziken 8 часов назад +1

    Thats how you play it!

  • @kogz295
    @kogz295 7 часов назад

    Isp never fails to torture himself

  • @LikeGG
    @LikeGG 4 часа назад +1

    Next series: World conquest to Z

  • @whiteelephant3673
    @whiteelephant3673 5 часов назад

    This one was pretty good, quite interesting)

  • @lordvader9712
    @lordvader9712 7 часов назад

    Try Age of History 3 now, it's just released, it's like EU4, Vic2 and AoH2 combined.

  • @IIZCHAOS
    @IIZCHAOS 3 часа назад

    Damn imagine how many genocides this turkey would try.

  • @aquablue666
    @aquablue666 8 часов назад

    Remember to pray to papi sorrows 🙏 and fill your chalice with Timmy’s favorite juice. OJ. And enjoy it 🎉

  • @La_Royalicia
    @La_Royalicia 2 часа назад +1

    Play age of history 3 it’s like hoi but better maybe

  • @Ismael_Malikshahi
    @Ismael_Malikshahi 7 часов назад

    If they make the entire focus tree 35 day it will actually be enjoyable

  • @manutron2010
    @manutron2010 8 часов назад +1

    TNO is inevitable.

    • @whitehawk4099
      @whitehawk4099 8 часов назад +1

      Wouldn't be surprised if he does TFR in the next bit.

  • @chungus_yoshi
    @chungus_yoshi 8 часов назад

    I am finally hiped for a new dlc in a long time

  • @Puckpatato
    @Puckpatato 8 часов назад

    I preffer to be called Mr.timothy-timothethem-III mr sorrow

  • @charlescarson4337
    @charlescarson4337 4 часа назад

    When you did the Soviets, you should have just done the Red Navy focuses instead of army or industry

  • @GGwasheree
    @GGwasheree 7 часов назад

    if it had shorter focus times it wouldve been good also Turkey mentioned!!!!!! wtf is a good economy!!!!!

  • @larsreckert5423
    @larsreckert5423 6 часов назад

    Turkey feels like Kaiserreich.

  • @doctorwhat779
    @doctorwhat779 6 часов назад

    Turkish tree is not the best sure but I think it is overhated, you can work with it if you try to do

  • @vikki2702
    @vikki2702 8 часов назад

    FINALLY THE TURKEY VIDEO

  • @Paya-hx6eu
    @Paya-hx6eu 4 часа назад

    it’s so hard to get industrialized as turkey

  • @NiffelTower
    @NiffelTower 6 часов назад

    how are you so good at making the worst paths look fun

  • @Alexvondark
    @Alexvondark 7 часов назад

    Well, Turkey is an interesting development ✋🏻👑🙂‍↕️

  • @agoutisauvage8698
    @agoutisauvage8698 8 часов назад +1

    turan 💀💀💀💀💀

  • @DumbCup
    @DumbCup 5 часов назад +1

    Playing anarchist Spain rn winning

  • @Wahsteinious
    @Wahsteinious 4 часа назад

    March of the Eagles A-Z when

  • @roxen4
    @roxen4 5 часов назад

    meanwhile i have 3 thousand hours playing with turkey

  • @sciencer9830
    @sciencer9830 8 часов назад +2

    you didnt have fun, you just fell for the stockholm syndrome

  • @jimtalbott9535
    @jimtalbott9535 6 часов назад +2

    Turkey combined with UK, Mexico, and the USA and Canada.
    Imagine the FOOD. They’ll have mini burgers on sticks, covered with spices ole gravy and cheese curds. They’ll call it Kaburtene.

  • @willywonka6487
    @willywonka6487 Час назад

    Your so wrong, its one of the best with double focus speed mod (player only gets double speed) lots of flexibility and options and some brokenly OP stuff like the compliance gain

  • @robertmowrey2009
    @robertmowrey2009 5 часов назад

    Nah fam, it’s all about that hype for Barfs of Iron 5.
    No combat and no focus trees mmmmmm

  • @ahmethakantozlu1389
    @ahmethakantozlu1389 3 часа назад

    Will we have a New focus tree to Turkey with that middle east pack dlc? Pls say yes

  • @koir9596
    @koir9596 8 часов назад

    The rats under the skin are still there isp...

  • @emilsoderman3691
    @emilsoderman3691 5 часов назад

    While I don't *like* the Turkish focus tree, Turkey is sitll more fun than New Zeeland.

  • @borisf6294
    @borisf6294 7 часов назад

    Did you know that Turkey was the main character in WW2?

  • @cadzilla
    @cadzilla 8 часов назад +5

    worst nation, oh we're playing Denmark

  • @TheRavenLord1
    @TheRavenLord1 8 часов назад

    Petition for ISP to play Syndicalist Italy/Roman Empire in Kaiserredux Day 100

  • @Yasakkola
    @Yasakkola 8 часов назад

    Türkiye mentioned !!!!!!

  • @germanyballwork5301
    @germanyballwork5301 8 часов назад

    Ck3 when mr isp

  • @fredrikkirderf2907
    @fredrikkirderf2907 6 часов назад

    After focus to Z is done you should do historical to z

  • @Rufusdadoofus
    @Rufusdadoofus 7 часов назад

    Use the 35 day focus mod for them or it’s unplayable

  • @herbbigherbson9109
    @herbbigherbson9109 7 часов назад

    You’re going to fill in WHO???

  • @jermymckee6023
    @jermymckee6023 8 часов назад +1

    Day 30 of asking ISP to collab with Drew and Alex one more time

  • @mavzio8112
    @mavzio8112 8 часов назад

    You should play Age of History 3

  • @sus_sand5811
    @sus_sand5811 7 часов назад +1

    Play eu4 in isp channel

  • @mramogus1032
    @mramogus1032 6 часов назад +1

    HOI4'TE TÜRKİYE EN KÖTÜ ÜLKE DEĞİL, EN İYİSİ 🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷

    • @sndsunderstagel3114
      @sndsunderstagel3114 6 часов назад +1

      Turkey is the worst nation in HOI4 and in real life tbh.

  • @HGShurtugal
    @HGShurtugal 5 часов назад +1

    👁 ❤ 🦃

  • @MrTeddy12397
    @MrTeddy12397 8 часов назад

    sloppa

  • @E_Poltz
    @E_Poltz 5 часов назад

    1949 💀

  • @j-Gappy-h
    @j-Gappy-h 8 часов назад

    IBloatedFocustree

  • @pierre-andrelecomte9384
    @pierre-andrelecomte9384 6 часов назад

    did you skip tannu tuva?
    also, i would give it a "re-run" but your playlists are "incomplete"

  • @Jesus-vd9fu
    @Jesus-vd9fu 9 часов назад +4

    @iSorrowproductions If you don't pay your child support i'll have your visitation rights revoked!!!

  • @andreaskatsikakis5223
    @andreaskatsikakis5223 8 часов назад

    Please play Victoria 2 again!

  • @IquonYT
    @IquonYT 8 часов назад +1

    Man, i would have loved to see the reform the ottoman empire but at the last step decide to not stick with it, like the top liked comment said.

    • @doctorwhat779
      @doctorwhat779 6 часов назад

      There is already gazillion of Ottoman Empire video about Turkey

  • @mlgsty8880
    @mlgsty8880 7 часов назад +2

    I dont understand the hate for Turkish tree really, I think its fun and has lot of variance. Its not simplest one sure but it is not Switzerland either. Lot of funny things you can do with that focus tree and honestly, Ottoman Empire is one of the more boring ones in there.

    • @personwithoutabody3236
      @personwithoutabody3236 6 часов назад +2

      The problem is: it's too slow; and in a game where it is essentially a race against the clock that's really, really bad. And the reason is that it becomes boring due to how much or how strong the ai builds up, having to wait for a breakthrough or for the supply to run out or even just a laggy slogfest. Also like in the video the player can end up burning out.

    • @doctorwhat779
      @doctorwhat779 6 часов назад

      Yeah that's the problem. People only cares Ottoman tree but it sucks as it should be

    • @personwithoutabody3236
      @personwithoutabody3236 6 часов назад

      At that point you are better off just playing using only justifications, cause they take about the same time as the focus =))

    • @doctorwhat779
      @doctorwhat779 3 часа назад

      @@personwithoutabody3236 this is also wrong. Turkey gets a -60 justification boost with focus "interviene spanis civil war" but many of you you never read focuses and you never played any other path of Turkey except damn Ottomans

    • @personwithoutabody3236
      @personwithoutabody3236 Час назад

      @@doctorwhat779 Firstly, my justification comment was a joke, especially as I don't play the game and don't know the details(like you seem to do). Also it's kinda sad and very cringe that at the same time you both do know what those focuses do and are getting upset at others for both not giving a fuck about the correct stats info or for having an objectively reasonable opinion given both personal and/or seen game experience. It comes off less like a hobby/passion/interest(or just being nerdy about something) and more like a replacement for personality.
      TL;DR: "It's only game, why you heff to be mad." HOI4 ain't real life, bud 👍