Milwaukee M18 FUEL SAWZALL Is NOT THE BEST Reciprocating Saw!
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- Milwaukee M18 FUEL SAWZALL Is NOT THE BEST Reciprocating Saw! In this video we show the #verycoolgang which Milwaukee M18 FUEL Sawzall reciprocating saw is the best for you and the worst for you depending on a couple factors. During this year's Milwaukee tools NPS 2020 or PIPELINE event they announced a gen 2 version of their M18 FUEL SAWZALL reciprocating saw with a bunch of different upgrades. Milwaukee let us know that it was the fastest cutting Sawzall in it's class which a lot of people took it as it was the fastest Sawzall out now. In this video we will show you how this new Milwaukee M18 FUEL SAWZALL is not the best Sawzall that you can buy. Let us know your thoughts in the comments section below and which Sawzall version is your personal favorite.
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I work for the manufacturer and I get a TON of people that come in looking for a specific tool and say "Vince from VCG said" yada yada. So now I watch all your videos so I can explain the things they take out of context. 😄😄
As an Electrician these things come in handy more than you'd think. If we dig trenches for laying underground mains cables, we use these to cut through endless amounts of roots that obstruct us from laying in the cables. 👍🏽
As an electrician, I use a m12 hackzall. Its small and light weight, it has just enough power for the light demo work we do. Works great for cutting pipe in tight spaces and its cheaper than a sawzall. I do keep a basic sawzall handy just in case, but I haven't used it in almost a year
when I was briefly an
electrical trainee, we used bandsaws, then again maybe we also used hackzalls but I wasn't there for the times they would've been used
I like using my hacksaw to cut the nails off electrical boxes. Put my blade between box and wood and cut both nails.(I make sure to grab tight and block the wall with my hand to not destroy the sheetrock) And then finish the project. This in residential I've been using lots.
Commercial I find myself cutting u brackets, PVC pipe, other types of pipe, wood and demo, cutting bars, and thick gauge wire. The list goes on. This is all coming from my years as an electrician. So depending what your company does. Or types of work. Find myself using different tools more depending residential/commercial, new or old construction.
The Sawzall has got to be my favorite power tool. I use it for so many applications, even wood carving. Jerome Schnettler was on to something when he invented it in 1951. We have M18 Sawzalls, the battery Super Sawzalls, and various corded Sawzalls. Milwaukee is hands down the best recip saw on the market (with the Skilsaw coming in at a close second). The battery saws are more convenient but they do not have the vibration under control or the durability like their corded counterparts. I wish Milwaukee would get the vibration problem under control with their lithium Sawzalls, because I am always reaching for the corded 15A Super Sawzall.
I find myself reaching for the m12 fuel hackzall more than my full sized sawzall. It's so nice to use with one hand.
I appreciate the heads up.. I just purchased the Sawzall cordless recip saw M18 as a gift for my Dad.. I’ll pass on the Tips from your video to him!
The fuel is an absurdly powerful tool for the size, use mine almost exclusively for metal. Cut a 3" solid pulley shaft with a torch blade yesterday in probably less than a minute.
My DeWalt 60v flexvolt sawzall cut a 8" cast iron pipe in under 20secs...with a DeWalt 14 Tpi metal blade. Then that same blade cut 6 more of the same pipes, then cut right thru a Briggs & Stratton motor on a seized up rototiller...thru the timing chain everything you name it. Sorry Milwaukee fans, DeWalt owns the sawzall world. Period.
Have you tried the Milwaukee super Sawzall?
@@jorrdanlease3106 sarcasm?
I used mine for the first time, the rubber got an hole, inspecting I see this new FUEL uses thinner rubber than the old generation FUEL, most disappointing, I didn't even give it much abuse.
I remember when the new Sawzall was shown during the VCG pipeline video. I remember YOUR reaction to it Vince.
The Hackzall has virtually replaced the Sawzall for electricians especially the M12 FUEL, especially paired with an OMT*. However the Sawzall still has its place with electricians. 20 years ago the Sawzall was 👑. Now for electricians it fell into a specialized category. Milwaukee just made better tools for general tasks that the Sawzall used to do by default because at the time it was the saw to cut it all. It still is but cabinet outlets once a jigsaw or Sawzall fell to the OMT* conduit and heavy duty cuts (where the OMT* can’t reach) the Hackzall replaced the Sawzall.
VCG man you got all my respect brother it’s just that not everybody understand everything you explain simple makes sense I go whit the super keep it real like all your hart work thanks for sharing
I used to have the fuel but my helper bought me the super sawzall since he lost mine on a job and i decided to upgrade lol since ive owned both and ysed the super sawzall through cutting BIG metal and wood. i have tested it against corded and battery sawzalls across the market through work. I can confidently say. Money well spent. It is truly a nutty saw that completely slices through anything you put it on
I went with the cheaper non fuel version and am amazed how it took out the brush in my yard so quick. I had been working 16 hour days for almost a year so I let my yard go to shit and mowed like once every 3 weeks.
Good video, easy to understand and I enjoy learning about these tools. Thanks Vince
Thank you , Brandon!
First a word from our sponsor "my company" lol
First time I realized VCG Construction was Vince’s company I was crackin’ up, love it. “I sponsor MYSELF.” 💪🏽
🤣 🤣. 🤣
Lol finally people are catching on to the joke
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@@careycondor VCG must be his initials.
its like the meme of Obama giving an award to himself
Love the video vince thank you for the update and info makes it easier to understand things
Happy to help!
@@VCGConstruction thank you for taking the time out of your day to do these videos and talking us about the new tools and equipment of the trade
From running the super sawzall and I really can't wait to use the new gen 2 to feel the difference. I like its strength but it is heavy
Omg you answered all my questions!! I saved money and hassle because of this video
You are the man! Thank you for helping me decide! HVAC and Fuel is def perfect for me! Thank you so much!
Totally agree on the toolless change option... I recently acquired both of these. One is a gift to my mother believe it or not who uses it as a pruning tool. She has my 20 plus year old corded super sawzall so this year I upgraded her to cordless... I'm keeping the super sawzall and she's getting the fuel non super sawzall for two main reasons The lighter weight, and more importantly the easier blade change option... She's over 70 and I have a heck of a time with the super sawzall blade change knob I think it would be utterly frustrating for her...
V, thank you so much for this information. I have made up my choice in my mind. Now, come on Labor day sales 🤞
im an electrician and use only fuel tools for the most part. i use the one handed 18v sawzall a lot. i have the full size but dont usually need it
This video helped me out alot on deciding which one to buy, I appreciate it 🙏
The Super Sawzall is a beast ! It's heavy. But when you need a tiger you can benefit from the Super. I use and Milwaukee Hackzall the most in the M12 configuration as it can still mow through 2x4 fast and it is very light and one handed (when that matters).
For my remodeling and farm work purposes, I’d probably go with the lighter and smaller one
How many times did vince say "best" . Had me laughing 😆 love the stroke length 😄
“Love the stroke length”. That’s what she said. 🤣
Well said Vince. Some people just scramble words and statements around in their heads until they get what they want to hear. 👍
The Makita recip saw is the best for me because it’s the one in my tool box 🤷🏼♂️
As the Milwaukee fan I can respect that.
I respect It
Amen
As a Milwaukee fan I’m gonna also throw in that I like the Makita XPS drill bits better than the Milwaukee ones. There I said it
As long as it's not a Ryobi it's cool. Lol, I just like the black and red better, really it more came down to deciding a brand of battery powered tools cause the batteries cost more than some tools. Pretty much the 1/2" impact had me sold on Milwaukee plus at work I'd always grab Milwaukee over DeWalt cause I don't like yellow. Lol, if you're going to spend thousands on battery powered tools makes sense to stick with one brand. Corded tools I have all different brands and not one Milwaukee.
I do HVAC, mostly roughing in residential, and my non orbital fuel seems to do just fine compared to other brands when cutting through wood. It gets the job done quicker than makita’s, dewalt, etc… honestly I’ve never noticed a difference with an orbital capable saw🤷
First here lmao finally never thought it would happen that “don’t they use their linemen’s pliers for everything” killed me
Yeah funny. A good set of Kleins makes a good hammer, reamer, knockout basher, wire bender, as well as pliers. When I worked electrical, they were probably 50% of my tool usage. The ones with the hardened cutters are worth the extra.
They do!
haha, that's what I told my lead when I first started learning electrical, this are your cutters, pliers, reamer, hammer and door stop... 😆
Yo Vince! Great clarification. 👍 I love my SS (a.k.a. Red Sonja.) In the owner's manual, it states, when cutting metal pipe to lower the speed dial to 3. Just a heads-up. Thank you, take care and God bless! 😁👍✌
Right on!
who reads an owners manual ? 🤔 😂
@@kingofthecrease30 this guy. 😁
@@VCGConstruction does milwuakee have plans to put out an updated super sawzall? Or 1/2 high torque impact?almost exclusively work with metals
I didn't read the manual but it's definitely better to start the cuts on a lower speed, if you're trying to get a clean cut, if you're just doing demo then give her hell, full power.
@VCG I have had the Super Sawzall going on 2 years its a demo beast!
But my trigger is glitchy, it pulses power while cutting. I always leave on orbital and I hardly ever go past half speed. It bucks like a bronco!
#BeastMode
I have one of these but use my hackzall way more often. I have worn 3 of the hackzalls out and the sawzall still looks like new. In context, I do a lot of metal work.
Wasn’t sure if id like this vid. The title seemed click baity to me. But I gotta admit. Good work Vince per usual. Definitly rock the m18 fuel +one key for the customizable starts and strokes per minute. Hope all is well and I shall doubt no more.
As an electrician I have a super sawzall that stays in the bag and a m12 hackzall that stays in my rolling work box. Only get the super sawzall when needed
Whats the difference between the new gen 2 fuel and the hackzall fuel if they have both the same stroke lenght and 3000 SPM? Should I get this sawzall if I already own the hackzall fuel?
Best sawzall is what ever you can afford. As a plumber I have used dewalt Kobalt milwaukee and ryobi. I use them from cutting everything from wood to pvc or cast iron and steel pipe. What I discovered is all are very good saws but what matters more than anything is the blades you use. Deoblo and milwaukee blades cut really good. And all cut different depending on what your cutting.
That's why I do like ya Vince. Always keeping it real
For small farm use the Super is the best for us, by far.
Love your videos, keep up the great work!👍
Could u do a tool review and maybe a TTR on the metabo hpt 36v sawzall and the TTR would be metabo HPT vs the super sawzall
As an electrician I do use my lineman pliers for almost 😅 everything. And the Milwaukee m18 fuel saw kicks dewalts saw. I have both and I prefer the Milwaukee.
I have the 20 volt Dewalt it kicks Milwaukee in the ass, overhead work the Milwaukee will kill you. Battery life the Dewalt uses 1 for every 2 batteries the Milwaukee uses. Tool life, the Dewalt outlasts Milwaukee 2 to 1. 15 to 18 years after buying Dewalt tools they are still going, about 3 years on the Milwaukee. Milwaukee makes some specialized tools that Dewalt does not. I have owned corded Milwaukee, but the battery tools are junk.
@@ddorn04 wow that’s a very insightful fact based OPINION
@@ddorn04 literally the only person i have ever heard say that. I respect your opinion. But definitely do not agree with it.
.....lol literally gave away All my Dewalt tools and the pile of shit bag half assed batteries that Dewalt manufactures to be like toilet paper or bic lighters; disposable. Bought 8k in milwaukee and haven't looked back; specific tools designed by workers in that specific trade; couple that with the best "over the counter" batteries and best warranty and it becomes a no brainer. Dewalt fell off along time ago when they stayed stagnant on their R&D and thought they could rest on their past laurels and not have to adapt....their plastic is cheap as shit, their customer service is about as good or helpful as "Xbox support" and they got outgrown by EVERY other tool manufacturer....truth be told, I will buy rigid ANYDAY before Dewalt now. They are hasbeens and the only people that don't know is Dewalt and a few holdovers that can't admit defeat because of a looming 20k investment in yellow tools that won't allow them to admit they are sub par because of fiscally biased opinion!
If you want to make m18 even better order a 100 pack of Samsung 35q 3500 mah 18650's or even 4000 mah's and the plastics kit off Amazon and build your own m18 batteries that are even superior to the m18 factory batteries!! Half price....twice as good of batteries almost!!
Good video! Thx for the info vcg is the best!
is it normal for my sawzall to stop or to slow down by itself when im using it to cut the slats on a wood pallet. it never happened when using the fuel sawzall and i thought buying the super sawzall would work better and faster but its getting annoying.
Damn … I commented in every RUclips video asking which is the “best” lol thanks for the clarity I ended up getting the not super fuel one …I get home & watch this video . I wanted to wait on the super just $20 more from my vendors
I purchased the super saw zaw m18 for demo. I actually prefer it over my small chain saw. It’s a slower cut, but those times when the blade gets pinched, nice to leave the blade in the tree and get another blade to finish my cut. It’s about 20%- 30% a faster cut than when not in the orbital mode when cutting trees with a 12” blade.
People’s reactions is a sign of the times. I like both and like you said depends on what I am working with
Great video. Love it. Keep it up bro
Appreciate it!
Question for Milwaukee specialists:
My Milwaukee Sawzall M18CSX has the following error: The LED lights up 4 times and the motor just jerks and returns to the starting position. If I then move the turbine a little, it only works for one second and stops. After that, the LEDs light up 6 times. While the LED lights up 6 times, I can saw in an emergency, but I have to press the trigger every second. I checked the MOSFETs and all 6 are correct. It seems that the signal is missing or the hall sensor is faulty? What is your fault diagnosis?
Greetings from Switzerlan
They should add an oiler to make blades last longer on steel.
Use a metal cutting blade, not one of those demo blades
Very Well put there Vince , LOVE your video's , watch ya all the time to learn more about Milwaukee.
I live in California , and the West Coast is the BEST ........................... He He He !
Vince - I actual think you are "THE BEST!!"
Pretty funny video with a twist of truth about context...in so many areas. :)
It blows my mind how powerful the fuel Sawzall is. I got it to tear down some old furniture, and it was mind blowing! It was like cutting through butter with a hot knife. Tools like this are wild
Hey I have tons of tools for an electrician... But I still use my lineman's for a saw
You should do a video on using lineman's pliers as a saw.... I've used mine as a hammer, cutter, reamer, crimper... But not sure how to saw with 'em
@@JoeZasada You'll get there one day LOL
LOL perhaps. I'll have to ask my dad; he's a retired sparky who was quick to bash stuff with his
Totally agree. Regular fuel is the one to get for most people. 2 lbs lighter. Even the non-fuel is really good.
I'd go with the Fuel because of the corrosion resistant blade clamp. Had those rust out too many times from residual water. Really wish they'd combine the features of both and make it one-key but that means they couldn't release a new gen 6 months later and milk us for more money to have the latest and greatest
Love my m18 fuel hacksaw with a 6.0 high output battery . I’m a plumber and it’s light , gets in tight spots and plenty of speed and power..
Hackzall is the best for an electrician in my opinion.
Osha approved one handed saw
i can agree with that, but as a demo guy id say the most power in the smallest/ lightest packages possible. ill be looking into the gen 2 or gen 2 super if it happens soon lmao.
I agree especially paired with an OMT (Oscillating multi Tool) use my M12 fuel and only bust out my M18 Sawzall on roughs. But after getting the M12 FUEL OMT paired with a Diablo blade it just chews through dimensional lumber
Big big fan of the M12 Fuel OMT as well! I didn’t have a good one for a long time.
Mine tapped out after 1 year and 2 months the FUEL model
looking at getting a recip saw, and was looking at these two! Knew I could count on. VCG!
Your right, the m18 super sawsall is the best.
Hands down / straight up..!!! 💪🏼👍
only problem with the supersawzall is that the shaft isnt 360° rotating like its 13A corded counterpart.
@@shauncatlett6066 i have a corded ridgid its a monster and the handle spins almost 360 its awesome
@@stevescott1962 I didnt know Rigid made a sawzall with that feature too.
@@shauncatlett6066 I have used a co-workers and it is awkward going horizontal with it, having a handle not spend 90° to stay vertical and going sideways gives me more leverage to push in that direction. And if I'm going download of the ground or other scenarios I just flip the blade so they handle is opposite. I don't need many features on a reciprocating saw, I just needed to cut fast and powerfully through whatever I'm cutting in the super soul does that better than any other. Orbital and straight cutting is definitely nice to switch between the two depending on what and how you're cutting it. On more precise tools that you're using in tighter spaces like an angle grinder, metabos rotating shaft is really convenient.
yeah i do use my pliers for everything yah should try it some time
I use the CSX and the hackzall as a mechanic, good for cutting control arms off land rovers.
Im not a electrician but a fire alarm system Tech but very similar just low voltage. I own a milwaukee sawzall but its just used if i ever need to cut conduit on the job site. But basically just sits in my packout boxes for weeks on end.
Which ones cuts caddalic converters good
The best would be be the dewalt flexvolt lol. Love your videos Vince. Keeps them up
Nope. Heck, my ryobi cut through a treated 6x6 and my friends dewalt flex was only halfway. We made it a race, same new blade, same start time. His little battery was the problem I think. I finished his cut too, Then my ryobi began to smoke on the third pole. My milwaukee super sawzall is much faster and can make many more cuts. You really need The biggest and most tech High capacity batteries, to get these new tools humming properly.
For real electrician that pipe there work and install conduit and big electrical gear, yes we use sawzall. Most of the time it will be a bandsaw because it’s smoother and faster but for tight spaces and bottom of gear to allow access to big pipe and obviously a lot more, we do use it often. Side cutters are really handy though lol.
“Rode hard put away wet” i can get on board with that
I'm an electrician and I personally use my M18 Fuel Hackzall for cutting 2" conduit and 2x4's.
I would say classes could refer to weight. So the super Sawzall would be competing with the DeWalt flex volt, and then the standard fuel Sawzall would compete with maybe the flexible advantage 20 volt Dewalt. I have to think they are similar weights, and size
Hi vcg construction I recently bought my first Milwaukee tool but not my first tool I have bounced around from Dewalt Ryobi and rigid I have one of each and I have decided that my Milwaukee impact is my favorite I am trying to get into small construction and remodeling at 16 but I am struggling to find an economic way to buy batteries for tools do you have any advice
I like the hackzall for most tasks but heavy demo just use the super
So,, smashing the "like" button extends the stroke length of my sawszall? What tha fork!!! Who knew? I learn something new every time I watch your videos! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Thank you for what you do. Btw,,, STOP YELLING AT ME!!!!!! 🤣🤣
Take a shot every time Vince says “Best” 😭
I love my M18 FUEL Super Sawzall. I could cut down trees with it if I wanted to and have done exactly that on a non-rotted tree.
This is the best or this one's the best then it's the best hahaha love the vid
I do hit everything with my linesmans
Great video mate. What is the difference between Milwaukee M18 ONEFSZ-0X and ONEFSZ-552X ONE-KEY Sawzall 18v Reciprocating
This dude is very special!
The best for me would be the one with LEAST VIBRATION when cutting wood as I have to cut into 100+ year old wood beams and vibration of my current sawzall is bad on arms. Which should I go for?
Vibration is best reduce by making sure to press the guard against the wood firmly. Otherwise I would consider using a circular saw instead or even a small chain saw.
I scrap cars. I need something that will fit i tight places but cut exhaust piping like butter I don’t mind to get a corded as it stays in my shop. Recommendations?
thanks, man
I watch this guy all the time. Or at least...i try to. I generally make it a few minutes in. This dude LOVES to talk, holy shit
Lol, I feel the same. Also I think not only he talk long but it seem like he talk soo slow
@VCG CONSTRUCTION VINCE. YES you make Perfect sense Bro. Thank you for stright up no B/S. 👊🏾🔔🤙🏾🖤's⚡🔥⚡
Im a plumber i used super Sawzall for cutting galvanized metal old piping are a beasts
Maybe i can try used fuel Sawzall on future and see what's happen
I have the fuel and I like it the only thing i can complain about is that it eats batteries. I used 5ah batteries and they got empty in like 5-10 minutes
When it comes to reciprocating saws vince is correct it boils down it's what your uses also other key factors is what battery platform you're on if you're already invested in a platform highly and there reciprocated saw will get the job done not every brand is exact is power if you're in ridgid they have orbital action on their reciprocating saw if we weren't invested in too many different tools I would get that new milwaukee sawzall but for what I need it for I can get away with a Milwaukee hacks bosch version or or a one-handed ridgid octane reciprocating saw /hacksaw I would just never buy a heart brand if I needed it in a pinch I would buy a Ryobi
so the "class" is milwaukee fuel non orbital or is the class brushless non orbital like is this better than flexvolt advantage recip saw lets get a ttr
Excellent video brother.
If you are in need of a new zalsall and have the Milwaukee line then yes I would look at the gen 2 but I would not just get it to up grade just to up grade unless you have the money
Hi vince little question for you is the orbital action is more effective when demolishing throw wood and nail like old floor thank you
If I know if gonna be cutting through nails I leave orbital off personally
@@VCGConstruction allright thank you sir !!
Does anyone know why the blades won't lock in?
You're the best Vince 👍
You da best George!!
#verycoolgang what's the best milwaukee drill set for price conscious wood workers right now? Also do you know the best metal storage rack on the market, again for a price conscious buyer. Thank you for any suggestions!! Love the vids, keep it up!
Not going to lie the hacksaw is pretty durable. Have one on site that someone decided to cut with a circle saw due to them not looking under there board and it was on the motor yet it runs like a top still
#vcg can you do a budget tool bag like what you need as an apprentice
I have a stupid question: What do you really use a sawzall for? For stuts I get that but other purposes. I always believed that metal pipes are faster cut with an angle grinder. I might be wrong. Can someone tell me in what circumstance you can't do without a sawzall except cutting suts (nails/screws in the wood) away.
PVC DWV pipes
My M18 fuel just does start. The light is on but pulling the trigger just doesn’t make it cut
Us electricians usually go for the hacksaw sawzall especially if it’s underground in a trench
I personally use both depending on what I’m working on DEMO Definitely SUPERSAWZALL small quick jobs the GEN 2 either way I use both about the same amount or my crew run both.
What do you think about Metabo 36v and Flex 24v??
Every electrician I know uses a multi-tool or Milwaukee hacksaw or Bosch version hacksaw there's some that might use hand tools depends on the material I'm not an electrician
Oh yea. As an electrican i got the gen 2 sawsaul. Cuts like a dreams
We cut a lot of wood and nails while unloading natural stone containers. I’ve normally used the corded 15a sawzall but I was to move to a battery system. I wonder how kind of life expectancy should I expect