The black Americans (descendants of USA chattel slavery) /FREEDMAN handle this conversation with facts & intelligence that had all those tethers shook !! I’m beyond proud of my black American millennial/gen-Z
@@VIRALDebatesSIS IF ANY BLACK PERSON ARE FROM SLAVERY ON THE FATHER SIDE NEGROES JAMAICANS HATIANS NATIVE AMERICAN INDIANS SEMINOLE INDIANS ALL HISPANICS OF INDIAN DECENT WE ARE NOT AFRICANS AND HAVE NO ROOT IN AFRICA. THAT NAME AFRICA IS A WHITE MAN NAME LEO SCIPPIO AFRICANUS. WE ARE THE BIBLICAL 12 TRIBES OF ISRAEL AND ISRAEL IS OUR MOTHERLAND. . JESUS WOULD BE A FBA BEVAUSE BLACK AMERICANS ARE JEWS FROM THE TRIBE OF JUDAH. YOU SIS YOUR FATHER IS JAMAICAN YOU WILL BE FROM THE TRIBE OF BENJAMIN. THE 12 TRIBES OF ISRAEL ARE NOT WHITE BUT BLACK PEOPLE. MUCH LOVE SIS
So glad to see young folks discussing this important topic. I do believe in Pan African and the African Diaspora. We have too much in common that cannot be ignored. We do not need everybody to subscribe to this notion. heart ❤️🧡💚💙🖤🩶
I’ve been saying the same thing Chase said, we’re already divided… Trying to unify has caused a lot of these arguments, in the end everyone is prideful in who they are nobody wants to take blame just pointing fingers…
Your country Somali is also a place of misery. You are so insignificant compared to some countries in Africa. So calm your idiocy, Africa doesn't need you, and stay in the United States. You also fled the misery of your country
The US is a Third world country!... They cant even provide all if their citizens free universal Healthcare , because they use all of their money to go and bomb so called " Third world countrys " . Killing democratic leaders or paying off CURRUPT ones , to administrate those countries on behalf of the US. The US isn't all that, even though they keep shoveling the idea if it being the "best place in world ever" down everybody's throats .
@@somaliagainstpanafricanism4865 The US is a Third world country!... They cant even provide all of their citizens free universal Healthcare , because they use all of their money to go and bomb the so called " Third world countrys " . Killing democratic leaders or paying off CURRUPT ones , who can administrate thoes counties on behalf of the US. The Us isn't all that, even though they keep shoveling down the throats of everyone that they are " the best nation that has ever existed " in the world .
This was a great conversation thank you for putting this together I'm from Greenville SC and I didn't grow up around black immigrants so I was under the impression that we were all one big black family I didn't really find out about how bad the diaspora wars had gotten until recently but this was a great panel I appreciate everyone's honesty this dialogue was very informative 💯
Her panel was a bias one. With little knowledge about the influence of the Caribbean Community in America black struggle. The ones representing the Caribbean were black Americans with Caribbean parents. Not a good representation
@@VIRALDebatesI THINK WHEN PEOPLE SAY YOU ARE NOT FBA OR BLACK AMERICANS ITS BECAUSE YOU ARE WHO YOUR FATHER IS SO I SEE IT AS THEY KNOW YOUR FATHER IS JAMAICAN AND YOU ARE 2ND GENERATION IMMIGRANTS THAT YOUR FATHER DID NOT COME FROM THE SOIL HERE LIKE US. OUR CULTURE IS YOU GO BY YOUR FATHER AND THE WOMAN GIVES BIRTH TO RHE MAN SEED . JUST SO.ETHING TO THINK ABOUT THAT IS HOW GOD OPERATES.
I think we always have we all have been mind screwed. When I went to Africa and the Carribean I gravitated for some reason to Black people that spoke and are working on unity.
Moving to Orlando, Florida, open my eyes with the black diaspora. And yes that xenophobia toward AAs is definitely a part of their culture that surpass childhood. I have 2 brothers that married an African and Jamaican not once was there any negative push back in our family. I'm a nurse and have done contracts where nurses in the black diaspora click up in isolate themselves from AA nurses it was observed and felt. Initially moving here I was excited to see more black people of different culture now I'm not so sure.
@Elijah Lyrics we aren't. What you gonna bring up african booty scratcher even AAs called each other that. We aren't in our homed teaching our children from birth to stay away from AAs that them.
@@elijahlyrics3790 I won't say AAs don't do that to an extent but our parents don't threaten us for dating other black people. It's crazy that so many black immigrants are actually forbidden from dating black Americans. You are also the ones moving to America which makes it sound crazier. You grow up being able to marry every group of people except a back American? You make not being around black Americans a huge part of your upbringing which is weird.
the key is this....all of this problem exists in the USA, so by default those that came here recently by choice have a responsibility to learn about and respect those that have been here struggling and dying for centuries.
Correct. Above all everyone has to learn about AFRICA. AFRICA should be the gravitation Centre of ALL Blacks on the Planet. The misunderstandings stem from the fact that some do not want anything to do with Africa, which is unforunate, because Africa is the ONLY solution to all of their problems.
@@chocolatequeen2019 So you came from Blackland? Go on focus on your "community" and everything will be fine. If you do not understand Africa can mean the solution to ALL of your major problems then go and study Master teachers like Dr John Henrik Clarke, who observed: “Africa should be home of our spirit, and it should be the meaning and definition of our commitment, The tragedy of the continent right now is that Africans have lost from their historical memory when they were in charge of the State, and the methods they used in maintaining the State”. You want to own nothing on a tiny island instead of claiming a continent. That is a sad state of mind. Meanwhile ALL of your oppressors are rushing to Africa to seek for solutions to their problems.
You absolutely are FBA, there’s nothing wrong with having pride in both of your ethnic groups… And by the way we’re proud of you to, keep doing your thing…
@@VIRALDebatesWHAT WAS MISSED WAS ALL THE GRAPE P&RN THESE BLACK IMMIGRANTS WOMEN ARE DOINGAND TELLING BLACK WOMEN TO LEAVE BLACK MEN IN AMERICA. SO MANY BLACK IMMIGRANTS MEN BE TALKING MAD STUFF TO. THEY ARE CAUSING MANY PROBLEMS..
IF YOU ARE ON YOUR FATHERS LINE NEGROES JAMAICANS HATIANS NATIVE AMERICAN INDIANS SEMINOLE INDIANS AND ALL AFRO LATINAS OF INDIAN DECENT WE ARE THE BIBLICAL 12 TRIBES OF ISRAEL. THE FIRST CHURCH BUILT BY THE SLAVES IN SAVANAH GEORGIA HAS ANCIENT HEBREW CARVED IN THE PUGHS. PRESIDENT PUTIN RELEASED THE ANCIENT PAINTINGS OF JEWS BEING BLACK AND PUTIN SAID THAT HE SERVES BLACK JESUS AND GOT BAPTIZED UNDER BLACK JESUS. THAT NAME AFRICA IS A WHITE MAN NAME LEO SCIPPIO AFRICANUS SO THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS AFRICA OR AFRICANS. 95 PERCENT OF PEOPLE IN AFRICA ARE NOT OUR PEOPLE AT ALL THEY ARE HAMITES WE ARE SHEMITES. US NEGROES ARE FROM THE TRIBE OF JUDAH THE SAME AS JESUS CHRIST FROM THE TRIBE OF JUDAH THE SAME AS KING JAMES AND KING CHARLES THE FIRST WERE NEGROES FROM THE TRIBE OF JUDAH.
This such an IMPORTANT topic...the truth is that as things stand, its very difficult to unite because we have different values and trauma Lets start with understanding each others history and values🙌
I'm African American a descendant of slavery and born and bred In the deep south Alabama that is lol just being from where all that shit went down it gives you chills the blood runs deep.. . Dirtysouth4L
Can't have Pan Africanism when In all African countries they still practice tribalism & they bring their tribalism here in US. Pan Africanis is not sensing. This is not to disparage people from the continant its just facts.
Love the discussion but it wasn’t balanced enough and as a mod she should remain neutral. I’m FBA but felt this was poorly one sided, we need to take accountability in any discussion to mend or better ANY relationship. Great discussion great show otherwise, shoutout Africa and the Caribs and ofcourse Black America, one day we willl get it together ❤️
@@wydiamakeba they kind of are. You can mean something without actually saying it right out. The so called " black Americans on the show. Were acting like like the didn't have anything of wider global interests in common with the other black people on the panel.
@wydiamakeba straight bs. It goes both ways. Tariq Nasheed himself has become obsessed with generalizing "tethers" every chance he gets on his lives. His followers then call in to offer their opinion as well. Black immigrants are not innocent, but he strategically stirs the pot on purpose. He profits from all this to in the end. His wife is nonFBA, and he lives around nothing but white people.
Correction based on what the host said in the video. Independence is different from emancipation. Emancipation is freedom from slavery, independence is the establishment of a new sovereign country. Jamaica for example had emancipation in 1838 but had independence in 1962.
Just for reference…”African booty scratcher” is not an insult reserved for Africans only…it is a colorist joke for all dark skinned people…it’s rooted in anti-Blackness. I think because Africans don’t understand the history of colorism in America, they would think they are being called that because they are African…single out for being African…but it’s really being singled out because of complexion. It’s all very wrong…and hurtful…but I just wanted to explain it.
They need to take their soft behind BACK to their beloved kingdoms! I'm caramel skinned, and I was called an African booty scratcher! I called all my brothers and friends that. It's a joke. That's what we do!
Your absolutely right because it is typically a term that was used by children and not adults. Your not going to hear an adult say it. Your not going to hear anyone say it much at all today but in the 80s/90s yes it was a joke that was told amongst kids. Not adults.
@@adams6798 Actually it was in a movie during a scene between KIDS lol. That's how it even became relevant for my generation. I have never in my entire life heard an adult say that. EVER lol In fact you say that in front of an adult, you may even get in trouble.
I am a Bahamian and this is disheartening to know that the Afro-Americans and Caribbean countries are warring..this is MADMESS!! I hope that this changes...I am really just learning about this war over the last year or two...
No one is waring mate, in fact there are lots of family ties between the two groups. The reality is that people move around and intermingle, cohabitate, form bonds and in the midst of all that often there are culture clashes, but this whole warring fallacy was actually created on RUclips by a few ignorant folks…….and God knows who’s behind that.
And yes Africans most definetely sold other tribes because they didn't see them as brothers and sisters because they were from different tribes. While some of what she is saying is true. We know the Dahomey sold slaves. We know Fulanis and Hausas sold non Muslims. The Europeans manipulated old tribal tensions and used it to their advantage.
Yea SOME sold jamaicans and carribeans to. They just arent stupid enough to think it was a majority or that they had a choice. Only black americans and i say this as a black american, has some dumb gripe with west africans out of thick headed american ignorance.
Danger I’m FBa but relax bc our ppl very well could have been doing the selling too so let’s not just make silly statements like they sold all the innocent ones. I love my FBa people but the silliness and irrational talk I can’t support or spread.
@@dangerwetikosclose2682 Yeah yeah! "Betraying" you was more severe than brutalizing and dehumanizing you. That Africa you despise is getting stronger everyday and definitely doesn't need your mindset. You couldneed healing from that same Africa but the self-hate is too strong.
True - the African-American has not been shown proper respect & appreciation (in general) by our extended African family in the Diaspora and from the Continent. White Supremacy living "rent free" in our minds is a root cause... and self-hate is the symptom. Having had high positions in "corporate America" I have witnessed 1st hand how many find it easier to side with WS than with us. Unfortunately, this is a reality that can no longer be ignored😎
I enjoyed the convo. Would have liked to see more moderation from the host, But i do appreciate the passion the you have for our people, and i think points that u made added a lot to the conversation. The other Americans on the panel got you tho, i think u were in capable hands. Just a little pushback every now and was needed. And as a Floridian, all imma say is nobody had bigger beef with Haitians than Jamaicans. It was almost like Caribbean hazing. But that's not to say there were no AA bullies participating. We have our ignorant and hateful folk too. But I thinks it's disingenuous to claim that our xenophobia is as widespread as the disdain coming from black immigrants.
@@VIRALDebates Nigerian-Americans have more post-graduate degrees than any other racial or ethnic groups. they represent a minutia portion of the U.S. population, 37 percent of them hold a bachelor’s degree and 17 percent a master’s. 29 percent of Nigerian-Americans aged 25 and plus, have a graduate degree, compared to 11 percent of the US population. Nigerian accounts for less than 1 percent of the black population in the United States, yet, they make up nearly 25 percent of all Black students at Harvard Business School. It comes to no surprise that Nigerian-Americans’ achievements in the world of education top any other U.S. immigrant groups, including Asian-Americans. Today, a growing number of Nigerian-Americans are entrepreneurs, CEOs and founders of tech companies across the U.S. and abroad. Harvard University elected the first black woman to be president of the Harvard Law Review. This black woman happens to be Nigerian, and her name is Imelme A. Umana.
@@VIRALDebates The fist black president of America is the son of an African man.....Asian Americans are the highest-income, best-educated and fastest-growing racial group in the U.S, with Asians now making up the largest share of recent immigrants. A Pew Research survey finds Asian Americans are more satisfied than the general public with their lives, finances and the direction of the country, and they place a greater value on marriage, parenthood, hard work and career success.
@@VIRALDebates One of America’s most popular restaurant chains has appointed African immigrant Damola Adamolekun as its Chief Executive Officer. The 33-year-old will manage over 200 physical locations and is responsible for maintaining or expanding the almost $1 billion the business brings in in a year.
In terms of the African American vs. African or Caribbean immigrant comparison, well, that is how our immigration system works. Aside from refugees, the US immigration system is designed to be highly selective and "brain drains" countries/cherry picking" often professions like educators, medical doctors and engineers to be fast tracked to becoming permanent residents. Leaving these countries in shambles (for example Nigeria, Liberia, Haiti and Jamaica). The Immigration Act of 1965 which was a direct result of the 1964 Civil Rights Act and the Immigration Act of 1990 are proof of it, as is processing for the Diversity Lottery, H1B and EB 1-5 visas. Our immigration system prioritizes and selects people with certain credentials, incomes, and professions over poor and uneducated people, thus giving us SKEWED statistics for comparisons. If we are going to compare demographic groups then we should consider groups in class and economic parity. Any immigrant group should only be compare to a middle class group. Once you compare Black immigrants to the Black American middle you see a more realistic comparison. HOWEVER the population sizes of the groups make comparisons illogical Meanwhile the African American middle and upper class is the largest in the African diaspora (excluding Black immigrants) with more than 22.6 million middle class, 5.2 million upper class, 1.79 million millionaires and 8 billionaires with the lowest poverty rate (19%). Nearly 30%, 7.8 MILLION have college degrees, over 2.6 African Americans with advanced degrees.
Love the break down of this black American statistic! All black middle /upper class is based in the USA south seeing how majority of us are in the USA south
@@javionriley8739 65% of African Americans currently living in the South is another issue because wages and the cost of living are lower in the South. For example a school teacher or accountant make less in Alabama than they would in NYC or San Francisco. So when comparing average incomes it becomes skewed unless you account for these differences and make adjustments for them.
6.9% of African Americans have a substance use disorder compared to a rate of 7.4% among the total population. 3.4% of African Americans have an illicit drug use disorder compared to a rate of 3% among the total population. Past month illicit drug use among African Americans (13.7%) is more than Caucasians (12%) and Hispanics (9.7%). Past month marijuana use among African Americans (12.2%) is higher than the general population (10.1%). African Americans report lower lifetime use of cocaine (8.5%) compared to Caucasians (17.6%) and Hispanics (11.1%). Alcohol use disorders are less common among African Americans (4.5%) than the total population (5.4%). Binge drinking among African Americans (23%) is slightly less common than in Hispanics (24.6%) and Caucasians (25.7%). The rate of heavy drinking among African Americans (4.3%) is much less than the general population (6.1%) and Caucasians (7.2%). Although the rate of cocaine use among the African American population is much lower than the rest of the country, it is important to note that this statistic includes the use of both powder and crack cocaine. Studies examining the use of specific forms of cocaine show that African Americans are more likely to use crack than any other ethnic group in the United States. A recent study indicates a much higher rate of lifetime crack cocaine use among African Americans (4.6%) compared to Caucasians (3.7%) and Hispanics (2.3%).3
@@javionriley8739 Despite only accounting for 6% of the general population, African American males represent nearly 50% of the prison population. To investigate the impact of mass incarceration on African American families, data from the Fragile Families and Child Well-Being study were analyzed. Specifically, the purpose of this study was to examine the impact of previous incarceration on African American fathers' instrumental and affective involvement with their children, and the extent to which their previous incarceration influences their children's behavior. Results revealed that 51% of the fathers in the sample had been incarcerated by their child's fifth birthday. The results also revealed that these fathers fared worse economically and were less involved with their children. Moreover, the children of previously incarcerated fathers had significantly worse behavioral problems than the children of fathers who had never been incarcerated.
As an African American Nations of Africans didn't participate in the Transatlantic trade to asmdd those Countries didnt Exist until the Berlin Conference
I don't think anything is wrong with descendants of U.S. chattel slavery embracing their lineage. When Black people in African nations embrace their lineages nobody bats an eye. In fact, many perceive it as "cultural diversity", but when we do it, it's considered divisive. Make that make sense.
A lot of those Black people that join the police force are literally Africans and Caribbean. Some of them are FBA but many of them are descendants of immigrants. Those policemen that she’s talking about.
I’ve said this on many of platforms. What I’ve noticed in from particularly Africans, is they do not like to be wrong! They don’t like admitting their wrongdoings or things they do but they will never forgive someone for what they do to them. Akata is a word we hear as black Americans but we don’t trip that much on it. But maaaaaaaan, somebody call you a African booty scratcher in 1981 they will never forget that. The lady wasn’t even speaking on her experiences she was speaking for her parents lol. But when it was brought up about Africans selling their own ppl she just could not admit it was true. That right their is the reason why the diaspora will never be one.
The African girl was literally the only one that accepted what they did wrong while the African Americans were stuck on proving that they should be grateful to them
You derived that from the video where the only one to admit wrong on their part is the african? As a black american i say this, there is a sickness in the black american community to where we are always the victim of everything. The mere fact that you processed this conversation as africans have a probablem admitting something shows that some of us are mentally crippled and shouldnt be allowed to hold this conversation because of lack of basic comprehension skills.
With the attitude withe black Americans in this panel we never going to have unity. Everyone else was ready to correct what is not good. The lady is arrogant and not going to change her way. Too bad.
Diasporans in the Americas need to realise that their very nature is Pan-African by virtue of the mixture of African ancestries that produced them. Its up to diasporans to decide they want to do with that fact, I would say that it makes Diasporans unique.
Precisely! The usage of the term African in North America goes back to the 1700s and early 1800s. As seen in the first Black established church, The Bethel African Methodist Episcopal Church (AME) in 1793. The population was well aware of their specific African tribal/ethnicities such as the Mandinka, Fulani, Igbo snd various others but wanted to avoid tribalism and used African as an inclusive term thus representing an amalgamation of various African peoples. We are the very definition of a Pan African people.
I swear it's always Nigerian women that are the most combative and defensive in these discussions. Always lying about what akata means, always excusing the negative behaviors of Africans.
Change the from Diaspora War to Diaspora United Nations then we conversation 👍 by getting to know what we like about each other because spiritual we are all connected let's get with the better parts of ourselves no name calling no hate words no disrespect.Only what we Love about each other . black All negative talk .🥰🥰🥰
If it was not for slaves what and how would you come to the United States of America to earn more money because I personally do not see it being an option in your country in your Homeland
Good Show! Im not Gonna Lie though sis As Host be a little less biased I’m a African American to I just think the other Jamaican sister wasn’t disagreeing with You ! You did Amazing though ! Big Up To Brother Chase To!
Olongbo- domesticated cat Akata - cat from the wild First used on westernized Yoruba kids coming back home to Nigeria. Later, the term used for African American. As an African American, the term does not suit us. We didn’t ask to be here voluntarily.
Most Black Americans hardly come in contact with Black immigrants for the most part. Black immigrants in this country are a smaller minority compared to other immigrants.
@@paradisesunprincess Ma'am this was 8 months ago wtf!!! She represented her people who is Black Americans, FBA's and ADOS. Only 3 guys and2 woman was American the other ones was Jamaican, Jamaican and Guyanese, and Nigerian and Cameroon which is 2nd or 3rd generations immigrants. Now you stop fooling yourself.
@@uniqueamerican4963 Being of Caribbean heritage does not make you a Caribbean person. You guys are just a bunch of Americans arguing amongst yourselves. Caribbean ppl don't involve ourselves with that drama. It's point less. Hell, you Americans think all West Indian are of African descent. You know we are called "West Indian" for a reason right? Smh
I respect West Indies that know who they're,a lot of Black Americans are now doing Genealogy research and discovering we're indigenous to America, we're NOT of African descendant as well, and neither do I claim to be or do I claimed others to be, but if someone has two West Indies parents they're of West Indies descent, or they would be West Indies American,or Barbados or Jamaican American. And West Indies and Africans do participate in " diaspora" wars online daily, some parts of West Indies no but some parts yes, just like some parts of Africa yes and some parts no....
Black people in the diaspora need to respect African America, for without them we would not have the freedoms that we have today. All of the Black leaders that came out America, we must remember this. Really true about internalising the oppressor.
Great convo. We should unify by delineation. Everyone that claims their country should help their country by staying in their country and building so we can go to their country and enjoy their culture
@@zarario4444 we help our community by constantly creating opportunities for people like you to come in the USA and flee your homeland. You should probably be thinking about your ancestors over there instead of speaking about a gas station. 🤦🏾♂️
i kinda disagree with how you comment things about Africa, one thing i notice is you would generalize what going in Nigeria that it happen all over the continent of africa ,let me remind you that Nigeria is a state not a continent ,you will say that Africa have tribalism using example how in Nigeria Igbos are fighting Yoruba but wont acknowledge how other Africa places like the south Africa Xhosa getting along in Zulu plz next time dont generalize Africa and use example what going in Nigeria because theirs 54 countries and Africa, and African places like Botswana and Kenya or sierra Leon and Kenya are peaceful no one begging you to come to Nigeria if you thing it all bad but dont paint africa as tribal and violent because of one country, and stop painting 2 countries as the overall of africa because again theirs 54 countries
Sir stop it. Africa is tribal and we know some countries are more tamed when it comes to tribalism than others. South Africa has an immigration issue and whites owning everything problem.
@@somaliagainstpanafricanism4865 how about the other 53 countries nigeria is not the continet of africa,theirs peacful places in africa like rwanda or ghana which blk americans are going to ,kenya ,tazania
@@somaliagainstpanafricanism4865 but theirs lot of black americans even fba who want to go there saying they love it and making businesses even a fba went there and saying they moving their people have diffrent experrience even fba are in countries like seirraleon and gain citizenship dont generalize one country as the whole continet
Right Boyz In The Hood Came out in the 90's we called each other that. Most Black Americans did not grow up around africans if u did not live on the east coast. I never seen a real African until I was an adult in college. I did gho to school with 1 haitian girl in middle school who was my best friend. I grew up with Mexicans.
One more thing if people are not willing to listen I'm talking about truly listen without conversation things will never change. You have to be able to look within yourself and see what's wrong there and admit to yourself and others that you are wrong then apologize not make excuses. It's just like being in a relationship if you have one side that just wants to make sure they are heard and not listen to the other person and what they are saying things will never get better. To be a better person you have to talk to yourself think about what you going to say before you open your mouth stop trying to be the one that's right or pulling out the other person as being wrong you should be a collaboration. It's not hard at all being truthful but being in denial is where all your trouble will come from and you will never understand. I wonder do people ever go back and look at the video that they did with someone and listen to what everybody said and how they said it.
I’m FBA and proud and I totally agree with what you said. You can’t just blame the other u have to take personal accountability also, we needed a balanced number of Africans in this discussion also.
@@somaliagainstpanafricanism4865 no there isn't stop bloody lying. This was true in the early 2000s when being African was looked down on. Caribbean and Africans are literally marrying each other.
They’re a group of people who claim they’re Israelites ? 🥴… who am I to tell anyone what their heritage is ?? .. Maybe you should converse with them for an understanding of who they are.
Doing great comes natural to BA ,we don't brag as much as other groups!❤ so it looks as if we're lacking, like my husband always asking me everyday you going to work smh he's Jamaican, I'm like u know damn well I'm going to work, what's with this work question everyday it's so annoying, because I work because I have to ,it's not anything to brag about....
They don’t call caribbeans Akata and they cultures so close because they are actually Africans most Black Americans don’t come from Africa ! We are different
This conversation is stupid bruh. Everybody stick to your own ethnic groups. Worry about yourselves and keep it moving. Who gives af if Caribbean or Africans like us? They not paying a single bill of mine bruh. This “war” is a waste of energy
That was basically 6 people going against 2 , and not the brightest ones at that either. Not a fair debate. It was painful to listen to the bottom-right sister, she couldn't make a single intelligent point.
Africans and Caribbeans simply need to learn their place. They come to America expecting to receive the benefits of our labor and gain access to the resources of America. As an FBA person I am disappointed in their lack of progression. There is no majority or other ethnic groups piling up on top of you all. Despite being a majority and having resources at home, they failed to use these resources which results in failure. Don't be great here, go be great at HOME
America is not your home either! In a nation where y'all are at the bottom of barrel! AA grow up in a single parent household, most of the black homeless people are AA, the prostitution rate is higher among the AA community, stripper's, gangbangers, poor neighborhoods. America is an immigrant nation and more Africans are on the way, you can't do shit to stop or change anything, In corporate America AA ain't anywhere to be seen. The Asians immigrants are far more successful than ya'll! Africans are on the rise. Everybody goes to America for the opportunities ya'll don't see. Every 5 minutes an AA man murder an AA woman. T tf
@Malcolm Kamara I know a poverty stricken, 3rd world slum roach doesn't have the audacity to run their crusty lips. Sub-Saharan Africans and the Caribbean are the most illiterate, disease ridden, crime festering, largest bastard baby making regions in the WORLD. You filthy rats are literally being thrown out of Tunisia as we speak. African beta males are getting beat down in their OWN country by the Chinese. What grown ass man is getting spankings on live TV. Caribbean men are weak. They are dominated by the MINORITY in their own home. You are literally reduced to being a subservient mutt at the resorts for white men. Instead of begging for the white man's citizenship, go fix that country lazy monkey
Not to mention the drum was banned in the U.S. after the Stono Rebellion and more African Americans descend from Senegambia regions 30% or more were muslims and so we relied on string instruments not drums. Africans had instruments such as the akonting which in the Americas became the gourd banjo. Our music is closer to music in Mauritania, Senegal, Mali in terms of blues and the way we hold our notes so long.
I’m a black American but some of us have to educate ourselves in what ethnicity and nationality is. African didn’t sell Africans… Hamites sold Israelites. All skin folk ain’t kin folk.
You contradicted yourself. First most of the parts of Africa were not Jewish or Hebrew 25% of them were Muslims from tribes like Hausa, Fulani, Wolof, Mende, Mandinka etc.
No disrespect to all on the panel but intellectually, Historically and Culturally the members on the panel are not studied or intelligent on said subject to speak on the topic. The disunity is historical by Our Traditional/Historical open enemies (eurasians, arabs and europeans) who enslaved and colonized Us. Y'all concept of Pan Afrikanism is not accurately defined. I'm an Afracentric Pan Afrikanist. The term Pan Afrikanism has been co-oped by black marxist and continental Pan Afrikanist.
Historically, different ethnicities or tribes or clans just don’t readily accept or like each other. Europeans have never liked each other, ever… and when they colonized over 80 % of the planet they exacerbated and created even more of a divide amongst people who already had their ethnic conflicts. Turning minor conflicts into civil wars.
I side-eyed the person who chose to self identify as Afro-American immediately. Well I was right, lol. chile America or American is global understood to mean the United States of America. African American are globally understood to mean a specific people whose ancestors were enslaved in the US, as they self-identified as African Americans dating back to the 1700s.
@@julewry3932 "An ad in The Pennsylvania Journal on May 15, 1782, used the term "African American" (near the bottom). “Afro-American” has been documented as early as 1831, with “black American” (1818) and “Africo-American” (1788) going back even further." We've always used African American but we have always preferred Black American.
@@down-b8197 thats false we already debunked that... Those few secret societies and freemasonic organizations do not represent the whole population of America.. Yall like 20 years off with your information.. We NEVER called ourselves Africans and we never will and phuck whoever dont like it... Simple
@@down-b8197 there is no we those people who identified as African American then were told gtfo back then we never collectively identified with that bs and people like you are the reason why we will remove it in our lifetime... Why tf would my ancient American ancestors identify with a color when we had tribes back then
@@down-b8197 all those pan Africans were proven to work hand and hand with the kaykaykay and it's new information coming out everyday exposing these mfs.. it's not gonna be pretty wen our collective finds out Garvey was a kaykaykay sympathizer
The host need to do some research and stop being biased. The Americans need to come to Jamaica for a couple weeks and understand why people think and behave the way they do.
The guy on the left with beard was wrong when he said anyone in the western hemisphere can be Afro American on the basics of it being North, Central & South America… That’s inaccurate
I like what your doing. Host you have to let others talk even if you disagree. The panelist need to also respect that you are the host and keep it short sometimes.
That shit is so corny when the host interrupts a guest then has the audacity to tell them not to interrupt when said guest is simply maintaining the floor through their full thought. You’re not having a conversation when you censor the opinions you disagree with. Like don’t run Craig. And speaking as a Jamaican who grew up in NY, y’all truly aren’t taking accountability for the so called jokes Continental Africans endured as kids in the states bc they weren’t just jokes and in fact more loaded. AA kids deadass made fun of their names and languages/accents just as that similar to what y’all acknowledged Haitians went through. The conversation lost its integrity at that point for me, y’all not being honest. And what in the hell is leaneage??
I’m from Tampa, Florida and I grew up around Haitians, Jamaicans and Trinidadian’s. At 14:28 she is right, I remember hearing things about Jamaicans doing voodoo Haitians eating dogs but as an 11 year old I’m like 🤷🏾♂️. Tbh I thought they were from the states.
She said that people were saying Haitians was dirty, I heard it was other Carribeans saying all those things and bullying them, we wouldn't know about their culture, so how would we know what they do in their culture, it had to be other Carribeans that knew about other Carribeans culture. And I heard that Haitians did voodoo and eat cats and dogs and I heard that Jamaicans was drug dealers and brought drugs in the the Black community, and they participated in the terrorizing the Black community as far as Jamaican possey and they were involved in CIA activities as well, it's gets deeper..
@@uniqueamerican4963that’s kinda pushing it. Jamaicans did have a reputation of drug dealing but if you thing there was one Jamaica organization that wasn’t half filled with African American your mistaken. Jamaican drug dealing crews didn’t have enough Jamaicans in the UsA to run the org by themselves so a lot of times it was actually more African americans in Jamaican gangs than Jamaicans.
@@uniqueamerican4963It’s True, I live in Canada 🇨🇦, the Jamaican possey were in Toronto, I also have family in the drug business who have been just arrested, two months ago for drug trafficking and human trafficking. As for Haitian people, it depends on their upbringing in their household, not all Haitian people are dirty and smell or eat cats and dog but the Voodoo part is real.
@@lavonnealexander6936 Thank you for being honest luv, and I don't generalize people at all, because it's good and bad people in all cultures, tribes, colors and ethnic groups, and did you say Haitians do voodoo? They better stop messing with Haitians they're messing with the wrong people, 1804 they better remember.
Many migrants of color are told that they could lose their citizenship if they align with black Americans someone who is half Caribbean and AA said their own parent who was an immigrant was told to stay clear of black Americans but they chose their own path. I know this is offensive because I know there used to be many caribbean and African freedom fighters but a lot of you all lost your courage and spunk. And she is right about Chinese in Jamaica being a better class in Jamaica.
Let’s be honest, Africans and Caribbeans get along quite well and treat each other as brothers. The problem lies with AA, they know that I’m not gonna mention it.
Africans and caribbean people don't get along in the UK... They have the same problems we have with Africans the only difference is they'll come together against Black Americans.
Caribbean & Africans only get along when it comes to going against black Americans in USA !! Because in Canada ,UK African & Caribbean do NOT get along !!! Any kind of small bondage y’all have is because y’all can relate on a third world level via New York City
It’s a picture of three women shown as if all of those pictures aren’t the Black American aesthetic and more than likely Black American girls. African and Carribean people imitate Black American culture heavily, they create nothing for themselves on their own.
In all, this was great and informative but I'd rather the anchor or host does not double as a speaker in this kind of debate. A less invested individual would have balanced opinions and moderated the talk better.
I agree 1000 percent, FBAs need to stick together and lets take care of our house before we try to unify with others.
The black Americans (descendants of USA chattel slavery) /FREEDMAN handle this conversation with facts & intelligence that had all those tethers shook !! I’m beyond proud of my black American millennial/gen-Z
Thanks
I agree a 💯 percent l'm proud to be black american...they taking about culture black americans are the culture they all mincing us an copy us...
Stay focus beloved melanin negroes (Israelites) 🤎
@@VIRALDebates can i debate you?
@@VIRALDebatesSIS IF ANY BLACK PERSON ARE FROM SLAVERY ON THE FATHER SIDE
NEGROES
JAMAICANS
HATIANS
NATIVE AMERICAN INDIANS
SEMINOLE INDIANS
ALL HISPANICS OF INDIAN DECENT
WE ARE NOT AFRICANS AND HAVE NO ROOT IN AFRICA. THAT NAME AFRICA IS A WHITE MAN NAME LEO SCIPPIO AFRICANUS.
WE ARE THE BIBLICAL 12 TRIBES OF ISRAEL AND ISRAEL IS OUR MOTHERLAND. . JESUS WOULD BE A FBA BEVAUSE BLACK AMERICANS ARE JEWS FROM THE TRIBE OF JUDAH. YOU SIS YOUR FATHER IS JAMAICAN YOU WILL BE FROM THE TRIBE OF BENJAMIN. THE 12 TRIBES OF ISRAEL ARE NOT WHITE BUT BLACK PEOPLE. MUCH LOVE SIS
So glad to see young folks discussing this important topic. I do believe in Pan African and the African Diaspora. We have too much in common that cannot be ignored. We do not need everybody to subscribe to this notion. heart ❤️🧡💚💙🖤🩶
I’ve been saying the same thing Chase said, we’re already divided… Trying to unify has caused a lot of these arguments, in the end everyone is prideful in who they are nobody wants to take blame just pointing fingers…
In 🇺🇸 Africans and Caribbeans have a marriage of misery because both places are third world so there’s a natural bond.
Facts I noticed that as well, aren't you African?
Your country Somali is also a place of misery. You are so insignificant compared to some countries in Africa. So calm your idiocy, Africa doesn't need you, and stay in the United States. You also fled the misery of your country
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The US is a Third world country!... They cant even provide all if their citizens free universal Healthcare , because they use all of their money to go and bomb so called " Third world countrys " . Killing democratic leaders or paying off CURRUPT ones , to administrate those countries on behalf of the US. The US isn't all that, even though they keep shoveling the idea if it being the "best place in world ever" down everybody's throats
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@@somaliagainstpanafricanism4865 The US is a Third world country!... They cant even provide all of their citizens free universal Healthcare , because they use all of their money to go and bomb the so called " Third world countrys " . Killing democratic leaders or paying off CURRUPT ones , who can administrate thoes counties on behalf of the US. The Us isn't all that, even though they keep shoveling down the throats of everyone that they are " the best nation that has ever existed " in the world
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This was a great conversation thank you for putting this together I'm from Greenville SC and I didn't grow up around black immigrants so I was under the impression that we were all one big black family I didn't really find out about how bad the diaspora wars had gotten until recently but this was a great panel I appreciate everyone's honesty this dialogue was very informative 💯
I’m from the black wealth Mecca of Columbia/Richland county South Carolina
Her panel was a bias one. With little knowledge about the influence of the Caribbean Community in America black struggle. The ones representing the Caribbean were black Americans with Caribbean parents. Not a good representation
The moderator is outstanding! Well-versed with accurate history. Emotionally intelligent and with good critical thinking skills.
thank you!
agreed!
@@VIRALDebatesI THINK WHEN PEOPLE SAY YOU ARE NOT FBA OR BLACK AMERICANS ITS BECAUSE YOU ARE WHO YOUR FATHER IS SO I SEE IT AS THEY KNOW YOUR FATHER IS JAMAICAN AND YOU ARE 2ND GENERATION IMMIGRANTS THAT YOUR FATHER DID NOT COME FROM THE SOIL HERE LIKE US. OUR CULTURE IS YOU GO BY YOUR FATHER AND THE WOMAN GIVES BIRTH TO RHE MAN SEED . JUST SO.ETHING TO THINK ABOUT THAT IS HOW GOD OPERATES.
And very candyish to the ocular nerves 🫠 ... reference to the OP observations about moderator
Chase was on point! we've been divided,we need to focus on us as Black Americans.
I think we always have we all have been mind screwed. When I went to Africa and the Carribean I gravitated for some reason to Black people that spoke and are working on unity.
Moving to Orlando, Florida, open my eyes with the black diaspora. And yes that xenophobia toward AAs is definitely a part of their culture that surpass childhood. I have 2 brothers that married an African and Jamaican not once was there any negative push back in our family. I'm a nurse and have done contracts where nurses in the black diaspora click up in isolate themselves from AA nurses it was observed and felt. Initially moving here I was excited to see more black people of different culture now I'm not so sure.
It's interesting that you act as if AA's are not xenophobic people. Everything you mentioned is one sided.
@Elijah Lyrics we aren't. What you gonna bring up african booty scratcher even AAs called each other that. We aren't in our homed teaching our children from birth to stay away from AAs that them.
Thank you for your response
@@elijahlyrics3790 xenopobia means to dislike ppl from other countries and pass that down to generations. BA's don't do that
@@elijahlyrics3790 I won't say AAs don't do that to an extent but our parents don't threaten us for dating other black people. It's crazy that so many black immigrants are actually forbidden from dating black Americans. You are also the ones moving to America which makes it sound crazier. You grow up being able to marry every group of people except a back American? You make not being around black Americans a huge part of your upbringing which is weird.
the key is this....all of this problem exists in the USA, so by default those that came here recently by choice have a responsibility to learn about and respect those that have been here struggling and dying for centuries.
Correct. Above all everyone has to learn about AFRICA. AFRICA should be the gravitation Centre of ALL Blacks on the Planet. The misunderstandings stem from the fact that some do not want anything to do with Africa, which is unforunate, because Africa is the ONLY solution to all of their problems.
@@bikwah all of them that are om the panel seem to be born/ or and raised I in the us .
@@OtheDaddywhy should Africa be the center of concern? We are blk Americans. We need to focus on building our communities.
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So you came from Blackland? Go on focus on your "community" and everything will be fine.
If you do not understand Africa can mean the solution to ALL of your major problems then go and study Master teachers like Dr John Henrik Clarke, who observed:
“Africa should be home of our spirit, and it should be the meaning and definition of our commitment, The tragedy of the continent right now is that Africans have lost from their historical memory when they were in charge of the State, and the methods they used in maintaining the State”.
You want to own nothing on a tiny island instead of claiming a continent. That is a sad state of mind. Meanwhile ALL of your oppressors are rushing to Africa to seek for solutions to their problems.
You absolutely are FBA, there’s nothing wrong with having pride in both of your ethnic groups… And by the way we’re proud of you to, keep doing your thing…
Thank you
@@VIRALDebatesWHAT WAS MISSED WAS ALL THE GRAPE P&RN THESE BLACK IMMIGRANTS WOMEN ARE DOINGAND TELLING BLACK WOMEN TO LEAVE BLACK MEN IN AMERICA. SO MANY BLACK IMMIGRANTS MEN BE TALKING MAD STUFF TO. THEY ARE CAUSING MANY PROBLEMS..
IF YOU ARE ON YOUR FATHERS LINE NEGROES JAMAICANS HATIANS NATIVE AMERICAN INDIANS SEMINOLE INDIANS AND ALL AFRO LATINAS OF INDIAN DECENT WE ARE THE BIBLICAL 12 TRIBES OF ISRAEL. THE FIRST CHURCH BUILT BY THE SLAVES IN SAVANAH GEORGIA HAS ANCIENT HEBREW CARVED IN THE PUGHS. PRESIDENT PUTIN RELEASED THE ANCIENT PAINTINGS OF JEWS BEING BLACK AND PUTIN SAID THAT HE SERVES BLACK JESUS AND GOT BAPTIZED UNDER BLACK JESUS. THAT NAME AFRICA IS A WHITE MAN NAME LEO SCIPPIO AFRICANUS SO THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS AFRICA OR AFRICANS. 95 PERCENT OF PEOPLE IN AFRICA ARE NOT OUR PEOPLE AT ALL THEY ARE HAMITES WE ARE SHEMITES. US NEGROES ARE FROM THE TRIBE OF JUDAH THE SAME AS JESUS CHRIST FROM THE TRIBE OF JUDAH THE SAME AS KING JAMES AND KING CHARLES THE FIRST WERE NEGROES FROM THE TRIBE OF JUDAH.
Glad to see my generation weighing in on this. We are our only hope.
Black Americans don't sit around talking about other groups
And neither do black immigrants
Lol you have podcast trashing black Americans immigrants.
Stop
@@joshuawisdom9694CLUBHOUSE YES THEY DO AND THEY GO IN ROOMS WITH WHITE SUPREMACY AND TALK ABOUT BLACK AMERICANS. STOP LYING
@@joshuawisdom9694no they obsess over black Americans
@@RiseAwakenedOne why would they?
I love all the points that were brought up!! We really do need more conversation son this and we need to do better with connecting with each other.
This such an IMPORTANT topic...the truth is that as things stand, its very difficult to unite because we have different values and trauma
Lets start with understanding each others history and values🙌
Spot on 💯
“I feel Bamboozle by Black Immigrants/African Diaspora." Miss Cleopatra Bell #ADOS
#ados is an LGBT organization created by agents of the White Establishment!
I'm African American a descendant of slavery and born and bred In the deep south Alabama that is lol just being from where all that shit went down it gives you chills the blood runs deep.. . Dirtysouth4L
Slavery is a LIE. It NEVER HAPPENED.
@@thebabbler8867 we was already here
Good conservation and yes Pan Africanism is dead.
How do you kill an idea or a movement? Why did Africans come up with the concept of Pan-Africanism?
Good or bad, I’m just glad we are sitting down to talk. Hopefully it leads better relationship in the future
Right!
Can't have Pan Africanism when In all African countries they still practice tribalism & they bring their tribalism here in US. Pan Africanis is not sensing. This is not to disparage people from the continant its just facts.
right
So let's just give up.
And DONT LET THESE C♾️NS QUESTIONS IF YOU YOU BLACK AMERICAN! Skip them sis We wit You
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@@VIRALDebates you're hypocrites
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Love the discussion but it wasn’t balanced enough and as a mod she should remain neutral. I’m FBA but felt this was poorly one sided, we need to take accountability in any discussion to mend or better ANY relationship. Great discussion great show otherwise, shoutout Africa and the Caribs and ofcourse Black America, one day we willl get it together ❤️
Spice is a grown women saying those things. No grown FBA is saying bad things to the Africans or Caribbean
@@wydiamakeba they kind of are. You can mean something without actually saying it right out. The so called " black Americans on the show. Were acting like like the didn't have anything of wider global interests in common with the other black people on the panel.
@wydiamakeba straight bs. It goes both ways. Tariq Nasheed himself has become obsessed with generalizing "tethers" every chance he gets on his lives. His followers then call in to offer their opinion as well. Black immigrants are not innocent, but he strategically stirs the pot on purpose. He profits from all this to in the end. His wife is nonFBA, and he lives around nothing but white people.
Correction based on what the host said in the video. Independence is different from emancipation. Emancipation is freedom from slavery, independence is the establishment of a new sovereign country. Jamaica for example had emancipation in 1838 but had independence in 1962.
Meaning slavery became illegal, but Jamaica was still basically britain
Powerful dialogue... keep going🙏🏾 subscribed!
You did an amazing job 😇🙏💯❤️😅
thank you!
Just for reference…”African booty scratcher” is not an insult reserved for Africans only…it is a colorist joke for all dark skinned people…it’s rooted in anti-Blackness. I think because Africans don’t understand the history of colorism in America, they would think they are being called that because they are African…single out for being African…but it’s really being singled out because of complexion. It’s all very wrong…and hurtful…but I just wanted to explain it.
They need to take their soft behind BACK to their beloved kingdoms! I'm caramel skinned, and I was called an African booty scratcher! I called all my brothers and friends that. It's a joke. That's what we do!
So why do you say it if it brings negative energy? Pure lack of abstract intellect.
Your absolutely right because it is typically a term that was used by children and not adults. Your not going to hear an adult say it. Your not going to hear anyone say it much at all today but in the 80s/90s yes it was a joke that was told amongst kids. Not adults.
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Kids learn stuff from adults, they don’t just woke up and shout, “African booty scratcher”, they hear that from adults first.
@@adams6798 Actually it was in a movie during a scene between KIDS lol. That's how it even became relevant for my generation. I have never in my entire life heard an adult say that. EVER lol In fact you say that in front of an adult, you may even get in trouble.
I am a Bahamian and this is disheartening to know that the Afro-Americans and Caribbean countries are warring..this is MADMESS!! I hope that this changes...I am really just learning about this war over the last year or two...
No one is waring mate, in fact there are lots of family ties between the two groups. The reality is that people move around and intermingle, cohabitate, form bonds and in the midst of all that often there are culture clashes, but this whole warring fallacy was actually created on RUclips by a few ignorant folks…….and God knows who’s behind that.
Caribbean people and African Americans are cool 😂
The warring is mainly online tho
And yes Africans most definetely sold other tribes because they didn't see them as brothers and sisters because they were from different tribes. While some of what she is saying is true. We know the Dahomey sold slaves. We know Fulanis and Hausas sold non Muslims. The Europeans manipulated old tribal tensions and used it to their advantage.
And I will NEVER unify with somebody who betrayed me and mine! They can only get deleted at this point.
Yea SOME sold jamaicans and carribeans to. They just arent stupid enough to think it was a majority or that they had a choice. Only black americans and i say this as a black american, has some dumb gripe with west africans out of thick headed american ignorance.
Danger I’m FBa but relax bc our ppl very well could have been doing the selling too so let’s not just make silly statements like they sold all the innocent ones. I love my FBa people but the silliness and irrational talk I can’t support or spread.
@@dangerwetikosclose2682 Yeah yeah! "Betraying" you was more severe than brutalizing and dehumanizing you. That Africa you despise is getting stronger everyday and definitely doesn't need your mindset. You couldneed healing from that same Africa but the self-hate is too strong.
True - the African-American has not been shown proper respect & appreciation (in general) by our extended African family in the Diaspora and from the Continent. White Supremacy living "rent free" in our minds is a root cause... and self-hate is the symptom. Having had high positions in "corporate America" I have witnessed 1st hand how many find it easier to side with WS than with us. Unfortunately, this is a reality that can no longer be ignored😎
I enjoyed the convo. Would have liked to see more moderation from the host, But i do appreciate the passion the you have for our people, and i think points that u made added a lot to the conversation. The other Americans on the panel got you tho, i think u were in capable hands. Just a little pushback every now and was needed.
And as a Floridian, all imma say is nobody had bigger beef with Haitians than Jamaicans. It was almost like Caribbean hazing. But that's not to say there were no AA bullies participating. We have our ignorant and hateful folk too. But I thinks it's disingenuous to claim that our xenophobia is as widespread as the disdain coming from black immigrants.
thank you!
thank you
@@VIRALDebates Nigerian-Americans have more post-graduate degrees than any other racial or ethnic groups. they represent a minutia portion of the U.S. population, 37 percent of them hold a bachelor’s degree and 17 percent a master’s. 29 percent of Nigerian-Americans aged 25 and plus, have a graduate degree, compared to 11 percent of the US population. Nigerian accounts for less than 1 percent of the black population in the United States, yet, they make up nearly 25 percent of all Black students at Harvard Business School. It comes to no surprise that Nigerian-Americans’ achievements in the world of education top any other U.S. immigrant groups, including Asian-Americans. Today, a growing number of Nigerian-Americans are entrepreneurs, CEOs and founders of tech companies across the U.S. and abroad. Harvard University elected the first black woman to be president of the Harvard Law Review. This black woman happens to be Nigerian, and her name is Imelme A. Umana.
@@VIRALDebates The fist black president of America is the son of an African man.....Asian Americans are the highest-income, best-educated and fastest-growing racial group in the U.S, with Asians now making up the largest share of recent immigrants. A Pew Research survey finds Asian Americans are more satisfied than the general public with their lives, finances and the direction of the country, and they place a greater value on marriage, parenthood, hard work and career success.
@@VIRALDebates One of America’s most popular restaurant chains has appointed African immigrant Damola Adamolekun as its Chief Executive Officer. The 33-year-old will manage over 200 physical locations and is responsible for maintaining or expanding the almost $1 billion the business brings in in a year.
I'm suppose to luv n respect the same ppl who sold n traded our ppl? 🤔
if u feel lyk u wanna hate, yo free
Well....AA where also slave traders! Read history girl. Slave traders or raiders where tricked and ended up in the new world
Sis we know who we are now and OUR GOD( POWER) we don’t need them never have never will.
Freedom of the mind, love and respect each other's culture in order to build stronger black communities.
Aptly on 💯
I’ll love to be in a discussion next time if possible.
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Fba counter punched y’all didn’t start this.
In terms of the African American vs. African or Caribbean immigrant comparison, well, that is how our immigration system works. Aside from refugees, the US immigration system is designed to be highly selective and "brain drains" countries/cherry picking" often professions like educators, medical doctors and engineers to be fast tracked to becoming permanent residents. Leaving these countries in shambles (for example Nigeria, Liberia, Haiti and Jamaica). The Immigration Act of 1965 which was a direct result of the 1964 Civil Rights Act and the Immigration Act of 1990 are proof of it, as is processing for the Diversity Lottery, H1B and EB 1-5 visas. Our immigration system prioritizes and selects people with certain credentials, incomes, and professions over poor and uneducated people, thus giving us SKEWED statistics for comparisons. If we are going to compare demographic groups then we should consider groups in class and economic parity. Any immigrant group should only be compare to a middle class group. Once you compare Black immigrants to the Black American middle you see a more realistic comparison. HOWEVER the population sizes of the groups make comparisons illogical
Meanwhile the African American middle and upper class is the largest in the African diaspora (excluding Black immigrants) with more than 22.6 million middle class, 5.2 million upper class, 1.79 million millionaires and 8 billionaires with the lowest poverty rate (19%). Nearly 30%, 7.8 MILLION have college degrees, over 2.6 African Americans with advanced degrees.
thank you, forgot to mention this for sure!
Love the break down of this black American statistic! All black middle /upper class is based in the USA south seeing how majority of us are in the USA south
@@javionriley8739 65% of African Americans currently living in the South is another issue because wages and the cost of living are lower in the South. For example a school teacher or accountant make less in Alabama than they would in NYC or San Francisco. So when comparing average incomes it becomes skewed unless you account for these differences and make adjustments for them.
6.9% of African Americans have a substance use disorder compared to a rate of 7.4% among the total population.
3.4% of African Americans have an illicit drug use disorder compared to a rate of 3% among the total population.
Past month illicit drug use among African Americans (13.7%) is more than Caucasians (12%) and Hispanics (9.7%).
Past month marijuana use among African Americans (12.2%) is higher than the general population (10.1%).
African Americans report lower lifetime use of cocaine (8.5%) compared to Caucasians (17.6%) and Hispanics (11.1%).
Alcohol use disorders are less common among African Americans (4.5%) than the total population (5.4%).
Binge drinking among African Americans (23%) is slightly less common than in Hispanics (24.6%) and Caucasians (25.7%).
The rate of heavy drinking among African Americans (4.3%) is much less than the general population (6.1%) and Caucasians (7.2%).
Although the rate of cocaine use among the African American population is much lower than the rest of the country, it is important to note that this statistic includes the use of both powder and crack cocaine.
Studies examining the use of specific forms of cocaine show that African Americans are more likely to use crack than any other ethnic group in the United States. A recent study indicates a much higher rate of lifetime crack cocaine use among African Americans (4.6%) compared to Caucasians (3.7%) and Hispanics (2.3%).3
@@javionriley8739 Despite only accounting for 6% of the general population, African American males represent nearly 50% of the prison population. To investigate the impact of mass incarceration on African American families, data from the Fragile Families and Child Well-Being study were analyzed. Specifically, the purpose of this study was to examine the impact of previous incarceration on African American fathers' instrumental and affective involvement with their children, and the extent to which their previous incarceration influences their children's behavior. Results revealed that 51% of the fathers in the sample had been incarcerated by their child's fifth birthday. The results also revealed that these fathers fared worse economically and were less involved with their children. Moreover, the children of previously incarcerated fathers had significantly worse behavioral problems than the children of fathers who had never been incarcerated.
As an African American Nations of Africans didn't participate in the Transatlantic trade to asmdd those Countries didnt Exist until the Berlin Conference
I don't think anything is wrong with descendants of U.S. chattel slavery embracing their lineage. When Black people in African nations embrace their lineages nobody bats an eye. In fact, many perceive it as "cultural diversity", but when we do it, it's considered divisive. Make that make sense.
It took me time to understand that no one like us. And I remained humble but it never changed. So I’m done
Malcolm's biological mother was institutionalized when he was a toddler. He was raised by his FBA half-sister.
A lot of those Black people that join the police force are literally Africans and Caribbean. Some of them are FBA but many of them are descendants of immigrants. Those policemen that she’s talking about.
I’ve said this on many of platforms. What I’ve noticed in from particularly Africans, is they do not like to be wrong! They don’t like admitting their wrongdoings or things they do but they will never forgive someone for what they do to them. Akata is a word we hear as black Americans but we don’t trip that much on it. But maaaaaaaan, somebody call you a African booty scratcher in 1981 they will never forget that. The lady wasn’t even speaking on her experiences she was speaking for her parents lol. But when it was brought up about Africans selling their own ppl she just could not admit it was true. That right their is the reason why the diaspora will never be one.
And black American want to be wrong? You can't be serious.
The African girl was literally the only one that accepted what they did wrong while the African Americans were stuck on proving that they should be grateful to them
Don't know about that, narcissism is rampant within African Americans.
You derived that from the video where the only one to admit wrong on their part is the african? As a black american i say this, there is a sickness in the black american community to where we are always the victim of everything. The mere fact that you processed this conversation as africans have a probablem admitting something shows that some of us are mentally crippled and shouldnt be allowed to hold this conversation because of lack of basic comprehension skills.
@@BenjaminG27 who is us?????
With the attitude withe black Americans in this panel we never going to have unity. Everyone else was ready to correct what is not good. The lady is arrogant and not going to change her way. Too bad.
Diasporans in the Americas need to realise that their very nature is Pan-African by virtue of the mixture of African ancestries that produced them. Its up to diasporans to decide they want to do with that fact, I would say that it makes Diasporans unique.
Precisely! The usage of the term African in North America goes back to the 1700s and early 1800s. As seen in the first Black established church, The Bethel African Methodist Episcopal Church (AME) in 1793. The population was well aware of their specific African tribal/ethnicities such as the Mandinka, Fulani, Igbo snd various others but wanted to avoid tribalism and used African as an inclusive term thus representing an amalgamation of various African peoples. We are the very definition of a Pan African people.
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@@PerseusManchild it was used by a few agents but never by us as a people untill 1988... We never asked for that
@@julewry3932 yes of course, Colored followed by Negro then eventually Block in the 1960s. Briefly followed by Afro American and now African American
I swear it's always Nigerian women that are the most combative and defensive in these discussions. Always lying about what akata means, always excusing the negative behaviors of Africans.
Change the from Diaspora War to Diaspora United Nations then we conversation 👍 by getting to know what we like about each other because spiritual we are all connected let's get with the better parts of ourselves no name calling no hate words no disrespect.Only what we Love about each other . black All negative talk .🥰🥰🥰
If it was not for slaves what and how would you come to the United States of America to earn more money because I personally do not see it being an option in your country in your Homeland
America is an immigrant nation lol. Obama is the son of an African man!! Not an AA
Good Show! Im not Gonna Lie though sis As Host be a little less biased I’m a African American to I just think the other Jamaican sister wasn’t disagreeing with You ! You did Amazing though ! Big Up To Brother Chase To!
Fair enough!
@@VIRALDebates yeah this is bullshit!
Host needs to remain neutral for these ENCOURAGING conversations to continue. Would love to get involved
Olongbo- domesticated cat
Akata - cat from the wild
First used on westernized Yoruba kids coming back home to Nigeria. Later, the term used for African American.
As an African American, the term does not suit us. We didn’t ask to be here voluntarily.
Most Black Americans hardly come in contact with Black immigrants for the most part. Black immigrants in this country are a smaller minority compared to other immigrants.
Nice!!! sis you represented keep up the good work!!!!!
Thank you! Will do!
Represented who? Americans? Stop fooling yourself, that was an American panel
@@paradisesunprincess Ma'am this was 8 months ago wtf!!! She represented her people who is Black Americans, FBA's and ADOS. Only 3 guys and2 woman was American the other ones was Jamaican, Jamaican and Guyanese, and Nigerian and Cameroon which is 2nd or 3rd generations immigrants. Now you stop fooling yourself.
@@uniqueamerican4963 Being of Caribbean heritage does not make you a Caribbean person. You guys are just a bunch of Americans arguing amongst yourselves. Caribbean ppl don't involve ourselves with that drama. It's point less. Hell, you Americans think all West Indian are of African descent. You know we are called "West Indian" for a reason right? Smh
I respect West Indies that know who they're,a lot of Black Americans are now doing Genealogy research and discovering we're indigenous to America, we're NOT of African descendant as well, and neither do I claim to be or do I claimed others to be, but if someone has two West Indies parents they're of West Indies descent, or they would be West Indies American,or Barbados or Jamaican American. And West Indies and Africans do participate in " diaspora" wars online daily, some parts of West Indies no but some parts yes, just like some parts of Africa yes and some parts no....
Well said at 1:34:07 Never going to build if you keep leaving.
Black people in the diaspora need to respect African America, for without them we would not have the freedoms that we have today. All of the Black leaders that came out America, we must remember this. Really true about internalising the oppressor.
Excellent Work young folks... There's hope for y'all yet 👍
Great convo. We should unify by delineation. Everyone that claims their country should help their country by staying in their country and building so we can go to their country and enjoy their culture
In Detroit Black Americans don't own the gas stations or grocery stores. How are you helping your community.
@@zarario4444 we help our community by constantly creating opportunities for people like you to come in the USA and flee your homeland. You should probably be thinking about your ancestors over there instead of speaking about a gas station. 🤦🏾♂️
Bro please stop thinking 2billion continental Africans have the same opinion… that’s crazy
i kinda disagree with how you comment things about Africa, one thing i notice is you would generalize what going in Nigeria that it happen all over the continent of africa ,let me remind you that Nigeria is a state not a continent ,you will say that Africa have tribalism using example how in Nigeria Igbos are fighting Yoruba but wont acknowledge how other Africa places like the south Africa Xhosa getting along in Zulu plz next time dont generalize Africa and use example what going in Nigeria because theirs 54 countries and Africa, and African places like Botswana and Kenya or sierra Leon and Kenya are peaceful no one begging you to come to Nigeria if you thing it all bad but dont paint africa as tribal and violent because of one country, and stop painting 2 countries as the overall of africa because again theirs 54 countries
Sir stop it. Africa is tribal and we know some countries are more tamed when it comes to tribalism than others. South Africa has an immigration issue and whites owning everything problem.
Nigeria is in shambles with all of its armed conflicts sir.
@@somaliagainstpanafricanism4865 how about the other 53 countries nigeria is not the continet of africa,theirs peacful places in africa like rwanda or ghana which blk americans are going to ,kenya ,tazania
@@somaliagainstpanafricanism4865 but theirs lot of black americans even fba who want to go there saying they love it and making businesses even a fba went there and saying they moving their people have diffrent experrience even fba are in countries like seirraleon and gain citizenship dont generalize one country as the whole continet
Those are a minority going to africa.
Right Boyz In The Hood Came out in the 90's we called each other that. Most Black Americans did not grow up around africans if u did not live on the east coast. I never seen a real African until I was an adult in college. I did gho to school with 1 haitian girl in middle school who was my best friend. I grew up with Mexicans.
That 🇨🇲 lady is a Karen at the end.
Stfu, coming from a Somalia pirate
@@malcolmkamara7127 she’s a karen
@@somaliagainstpanafricanism4865 you somali mama
@@malcolmkamara7127 stop whining
I love this conversation ❤ we need more podcasts like this
One more thing if people are not willing to listen I'm talking about truly listen without conversation things will never change. You have to be able to look within yourself and see what's wrong there and admit to yourself and others that you are wrong then apologize not make excuses. It's just like being in a relationship if you have one side that just wants to make sure they are heard and not listen to the other person and what they are saying things will never get better. To be a better person you have to talk to yourself think about what you going to say before you open your mouth stop trying to be the one that's right or pulling out the other person as being wrong you should be a collaboration. It's not hard at all being truthful but being in denial is where all your trouble will come from and you will never understand. I wonder do people ever go back and look at the video that they did with someone and listen to what everybody said and how they said it.
I’m FBA and proud and I totally agree with what you said. You can’t just blame the other u have to take personal accountability also, we needed a balanced number of Africans in this discussion also.
In the UK we are not having war fare that's NOT true at all.
This 👆🏿
There is ethnic gang warfare between Caribbeans and Africans. Stop it. Congolese vs caribbean vs Somali.
@@somaliagainstpanafricanism4865 no there isn't stop bloody lying. This was true in the early 2000s when being African was looked down on. Caribbean and Africans are literally marrying each other.
@@somaliagainstpanafricanism4865 Where though? I ain't seen this.
@@DirtyEdon stop it sir. The ethnic gang warfare is still going on. Uk africans and caribbeans are not building cartels together.
Glad you bigup Haiti
How do y’all feel about the Israelites? Specifically IUIC. They are uniting everyone in the diaspora.
They’re a group of people who claim they’re Israelites ? 🥴… who am I to tell anyone what their heritage is ?? .. Maybe you should converse with them for an understanding of who they are.
Those are the worst people of them all stop it they are a cult and full of hate and lies
How can i get on to these debates
I’m with the African woman on this one
Doing great comes natural to BA ,we don't brag as much as other groups!❤ so it looks as if we're lacking, like my husband always asking me everyday you going to work smh he's Jamaican, I'm like u know damn well I'm going to work, what's with this work question everyday it's so annoying, because I work because I have to ,it's not anything to brag about....
36:56 he makes an excellent point
thank you
Great insights
They don’t call caribbeans Akata and they cultures so close because they are actually Africans most Black Americans don’t come from Africa ! We are different
This conversation is stupid bruh. Everybody stick to your own ethnic groups. Worry about yourselves and keep it moving. Who gives af if Caribbean or Africans like us? They not paying a single bill of mine bruh. This “war” is a waste of energy
That was basically 6 people going against 2 , and not the brightest ones at that either. Not a fair debate. It was painful to listen to the bottom-right sister, she couldn't make a single intelligent point.
Yes so very true.
Africans and Caribbeans simply need to learn their place. They come to America expecting to receive the benefits of our labor and gain access to the resources of America. As an FBA person I am disappointed in their lack of progression. There is no majority or other ethnic groups piling up on top of you all. Despite being a majority and having resources at home, they failed to use these resources which results in failure. Don't be great here, go be great at HOME
America is not your home either! In a nation where y'all are at the bottom of barrel! AA grow up in a single parent household, most of the black homeless people are AA, the prostitution rate is higher among the AA community, stripper's, gangbangers, poor neighborhoods. America is an immigrant nation and more Africans are on the way, you can't do shit to stop or change anything, In corporate America AA ain't anywhere to be seen. The Asians immigrants are far more successful than ya'll! Africans are on the rise. Everybody goes to America for the opportunities ya'll don't see. Every 5 minutes an AA man murder an AA woman. T
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@Malcolm Kamara I know a poverty stricken, 3rd world slum roach doesn't have the audacity to run their crusty lips. Sub-Saharan Africans and the Caribbean are the most illiterate, disease ridden, crime festering, largest bastard baby making regions in the WORLD. You filthy rats are literally being thrown out of Tunisia as we speak. African beta males are getting beat down in their OWN country by the Chinese. What grown ass man is getting spankings on live TV. Caribbean men are weak. They are dominated by the MINORITY in their own home. You are literally reduced to being a subservient mutt at the resorts for white men. Instead of begging for the white man's citizenship, go fix that country lazy monkey
@@malcolmkamara7127 America is ONLY OUR HOME. DONT EVER GET THAT TWISTED. Don't get gutted like a fish nigga
@@Jtve737 lol. Barack Obama is African and white! The most successful black group in America are Nigerians. Ya'll ain't shit! Go sell porn!
@@Jtve737 you're the nigga! Slaves
Not to mention the drum was banned in the U.S. after the Stono Rebellion and more African Americans descend from Senegambia regions 30% or more were muslims and so we relied on string instruments not drums. Africans had instruments such as the akonting which in the Americas became the gourd banjo. Our music is closer to music in Mauritania, Senegal, Mali in terms of blues and the way we hold our notes so long.
Resources please and thankyou
This the best one ao far
I’m a black American but some of us have to educate ourselves in what ethnicity and nationality is. African didn’t sell Africans… Hamites sold Israelites. All skin folk ain’t kin folk.
I been watching this shit show thinking the same!
You contradicted yourself. First most of the parts of Africa were not Jewish or Hebrew 25% of them were Muslims from tribes like Hausa, Fulani, Wolof, Mende, Mandinka etc.
@@TaliaJUDAHBOTH OF YOU CAN TAKE THAT BIBLE AND STICK IT UP YOUR A$$ES!!
TO THE AFRICAN NIGERIAN GIRL, I ADMIRE YOUR YOUR STRENGTH, GO GIRL!
Constantly interrupting in conversation is not a strength
@@universaljustice7376lmao 😂
No disrespect to all on the panel but intellectually, Historically and Culturally the members on the panel are not studied or intelligent on said subject to speak on the topic. The disunity is historical by Our Traditional/Historical open enemies (eurasians, arabs and europeans) who enslaved and colonized Us. Y'all concept of Pan Afrikanism is not accurately defined. I'm an Afracentric Pan Afrikanist. The term Pan Afrikanism has been co-oped by black marxist and continental Pan Afrikanist.
Agents??
Historically, different ethnicities or tribes or clans just don’t readily accept or like each other. Europeans have never liked each other, ever… and when they colonized over 80 % of the planet they exacerbated and created even more of a divide amongst people who already had their ethnic conflicts. Turning minor conflicts into civil wars.
I side-eyed the person who chose to self identify as Afro-American immediately.
Well I was right, lol. chile America or American is global understood to mean the United States of America. African American are globally understood to mean a specific people whose ancestors were enslaved in the US, as they self-identified as African Americans dating back to the 1700s.
No they didn't
@@julewry3932
"An ad in The Pennsylvania Journal on May 15, 1782, used the term "African American" (near the bottom). “Afro-American” has been documented as early as 1831, with “black American” (1818) and “Africo-American” (1788) going back even further."
We've always used African American but we have always preferred Black American.
@@down-b8197 thats false we already debunked that... Those few secret societies and freemasonic organizations do not represent the whole population of America.. Yall like 20 years off with your information..
We NEVER called ourselves Africans and we never will and phuck whoever dont like it...
Simple
@@down-b8197 there is no we those people who identified as African American then were told gtfo back then we never collectively identified with that bs and people like you are the reason why we will remove it in our lifetime... Why tf would my ancient American ancestors identify with a color when we had tribes back then
@@down-b8197 all those pan Africans were proven to work hand and hand with the kaykaykay and it's new information coming out everyday exposing these mfs.. it's not gonna be pretty wen our collective finds out Garvey was a kaykaykay sympathizer
How Africans became gangsters in the UK
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Mainly Somalis. Hypocrites muslims
@@malcolmkamara7127 stop 😭
I am Canadian, black people, has to education education, education, go to school go to school, then you will continue to be the leader,
The host need to do some research and stop being biased. The Americans need to come to Jamaica for a couple weeks and understand why people think and behave the way they do.
One word! DELINEATION! FBA is all we got!!
The guy on the left with beard was wrong when he said anyone in the western hemisphere can be Afro American on the basics of it being North, Central & South America… That’s inaccurate
I like what your doing. Host you have to let others talk even if you disagree. The panelist need to also respect that you are the host and keep it short sometimes.
That shit is so corny when the host interrupts a guest then has the audacity to tell them not to interrupt when said guest is simply maintaining the floor through their full thought. You’re not having a conversation when you censor the opinions you disagree with. Like don’t run Craig. And speaking as a Jamaican who grew up in NY, y’all truly aren’t taking accountability for the so called jokes Continental Africans endured as kids in the states bc they weren’t just jokes and in fact more loaded. AA kids deadass made fun of their names and languages/accents just as that similar to what y’all acknowledged Haitians went through. The conversation lost its integrity at that point for me, y’all not being honest. And what in the hell is leaneage??
STFU cry more
I’m from Tampa, Florida and I grew up around Haitians, Jamaicans and Trinidadian’s. At 14:28 she is right, I remember hearing things about Jamaicans doing voodoo Haitians eating dogs but as an 11 year old I’m like 🤷🏾♂️. Tbh I thought they were from the states.
She said that people were saying Haitians was dirty, I heard it was other Carribeans saying all those things and bullying them, we wouldn't know about their culture, so how would we know what they do in their culture, it had to be other Carribeans that knew about other Carribeans culture. And I heard that Haitians did voodoo and eat cats and dogs and I heard that Jamaicans was drug dealers and brought drugs in the the Black community, and they participated in the terrorizing the Black community as far as Jamaican possey and they were involved in CIA activities as well, it's gets deeper..
@@uniqueamerican4963good for you
@@uniqueamerican4963that’s kinda pushing it. Jamaicans did have a reputation of drug dealing but if you thing there was one Jamaica organization that wasn’t half filled with African American your mistaken. Jamaican drug dealing crews didn’t have enough Jamaicans in the UsA to run the org by themselves so a lot of times it was actually more African americans in Jamaican gangs than Jamaicans.
@@uniqueamerican4963It’s True, I live in Canada 🇨🇦, the Jamaican possey were in Toronto, I also have family in the drug business who have been just arrested, two months ago for drug trafficking and human trafficking. As for Haitian people, it depends on their upbringing in their household, not all Haitian people are dirty and smell or eat cats and dog but the Voodoo part is real.
@@lavonnealexander6936 Thank you for being honest luv, and I don't generalize people at all, because it's good and bad people in all cultures, tribes, colors and ethnic groups, and did you say Haitians do voodoo? They better stop messing with Haitians they're messing with the wrong people, 1804 they better remember.
Shout out to Black Americans, We aint coming together with people who fled their home country.
We fled our home country because of how America and other western powers destroyed and corrupted it
We are one🎉
58:18 preach
thank you
Many migrants of color are told that they could lose their citizenship if they align with black Americans someone who is half Caribbean and AA said their own parent who was an immigrant was told to stay clear of black Americans but they chose their own path. I know this is offensive because I know there used to be many caribbean and African freedom fighters but a lot of you all lost your courage and spunk. And she is right about Chinese in Jamaica being a better class in Jamaica.
Canadian Jamaican, your right about our parents telling us to stay away from other black Canadians or Canadian indigenous people.
Let’s be honest, Africans and Caribbeans get along quite well and treat each other as brothers.
The problem lies with AA, they know that I’m not gonna mention it.
Might as well I’m aa please do
Africans and caribbean people don't get along in the UK... They have the same problems we have with Africans the only difference is they'll come together against Black Americans.
Caribbean & Africans only get along when it comes to going against black Americans in USA !! Because in Canada ,UK African & Caribbean do NOT get along !!! Any kind of small bondage y’all have is because y’all can relate on a third world level via New York City
The host has to stay more neutral to balance
21:27 bro is putting out some good points
You was right on target sis they dont get it
It’s a picture of three women shown as if all of those pictures aren’t the Black American aesthetic and more than likely Black American girls. African and Carribean people imitate Black American culture heavily, they create nothing for themselves on their own.
4:10 Okay good everybody gives their origins time to represent.👏🏾👍🏾
In all, this was great and informative but I'd rather the anchor or host does not double as a speaker in this kind of debate. A less invested individual would have balanced opinions and moderated the talk better.
Too bad it’s the hosts show right… 🙂😭
No disrespect. It's your show.
@@VIRALDebates ya'll ain't shit