What If Kakashi Trained Sasuke In The Timeskip

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  • Sasuke left the Leaf Village before the timeskip to train under Orochimaru so that he could achieve his revenge against Itachi. However, things could have been different. What if Kakashi trained Sasuke in the timeskip instead? We can assume that the Naruto vs Sasuke fight ended differently. Naruto wins and brings Sasuke back to the village.
    How powerful would Sasuke be if trained with Kakashi? Would he learn the same jutsus such as Kirin? Kakashi taught Sasuke the Chidori afterall. Let's analyze this scenario in this video.
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Комментарии • 496

  • @DygoKnight
    @DygoKnight  8 месяцев назад +71

    Could Hebi Sasuke beat Jiraiya?

    • @JayceOdinSon
      @JayceOdinSon 8 месяцев назад +34

      nah jiraiya the goat

    • @_Zaran_
      @_Zaran_ 8 месяцев назад +6

      He can't he doesn't have a mangekyo

    • @Heroiixz
      @Heroiixz 8 месяцев назад +12

      Probably not but taka sasuke i can imagine…

    • @ok-ru6pw
      @ok-ru6pw 8 месяцев назад +5

      No

    • @shay_3859
      @shay_3859 8 месяцев назад +3

      He might get one shotted with genjutsu

  • @brandona25
    @brandona25 8 месяцев назад +138

    Would’ve been really cool to see Sasuke go the way of an unofficial Anbu under Kakashi. Like a sanctioned rogue ninja, he’s part of the leaf but with a singular goal of spying on the Akatsuki and killing Itachi. Maybe Sasuke and Kakashi could’ve gone on missions together while Sakura and Naruto stayed with their Sanin senseis, though it would throw off the sanin/team 7 parallels.
    Edit: there could have been an entire side plot about Orochimaru disguising himself as Danzo or usurping him as head of the Anbu/root somehow, to keep the Orochimaru/Sasuke dynamic but less obvious.

    • @sdservin
      @sdservin 8 месяцев назад +17

      Sasuke in the Anbu would have been sick

    • @kekireki
      @kekireki 2 месяца назад +1

      thats sound so sick and kakashi could probably train him better than orochi bc he has the sharingan

    • @FriendlyGhost-rf7tq
      @FriendlyGhost-rf7tq Месяц назад

      than ad Anko there as well let here train Sasuke with Kakashi do to both of them both having a curse mark and both of them having a common enemy Orochimau let Sasuke learn to summon Snakes from her and learn as much as possible of a man who wants to steal his body so he can defend him self

  • @imshkth
    @imshkth 8 месяцев назад +162

    I feel like Orochimaru restrained his training to be sure that he doesn't become stronger than him.

    • @axel8912
      @axel8912 8 месяцев назад +4

      But Sasuke became stronger than Orochimaru?

    • @imshkth
      @imshkth 8 месяцев назад +54

      @@axel8912No he became stronger than a dreadfully diseased Orochimaru. Sasuke would have been overwhelmed by the Eight Branches.

    • @HellGod67
      @HellGod67 7 месяцев назад +6

      Orochimaru didn't account for writing. :D He needed just find another body to wait till Sasuke killed Itachi, but due to stupid hoacrux plothole of cursed marks Orochimaru could do it any time if Itachi didn't exorcise him from Sasuke. In Boruto Orochimarus sins and requirement to change bodies was successfully forgotten.

    • @sewerrat11000
      @sewerrat11000 7 месяцев назад +7

      ​@@HellGod67It wasn't forgotten, he is a literal prisoner in his home and the reason he does not need another body is that he can always modify his current Zetsu body and pump it full of Hashirama cells. He found his perfect body.

    • @b1bbscraz3y
      @b1bbscraz3y 7 месяцев назад

      @@HellGod67 Boruto is fucking trash

  • @SpammytheHedgehog
    @SpammytheHedgehog 8 месяцев назад +481

    If Sasuke hadn't left, then Sakura would've stayed weak and most likely die against Sasori.

    • @MoonS4444
      @MoonS4444 8 месяцев назад +80

      Sasuke saving her indirectly... 💀

    • @mrlofi333
      @mrlofi333 8 месяцев назад +35

      great point but maybe that would have involved sasuke

    • @tsukiyami7101
      @tsukiyami7101 8 месяцев назад +52

      Or she would become a decent genjutsu user. Tbh sasori would still kill her.

    • @hobbyhorse5848
      @hobbyhorse5848 8 месяцев назад +54

      Meaning that Gaara dies, because Sakura inspired Chiyo to trust the next generation and bring Gaara back to life. Thats actually a pretty big butterfly effect.

    • @davidmandel8960
      @davidmandel8960 8 месяцев назад +25

      Or maybe the entirety of team 7 gets sent to save Gaara and nothing goes wrong

  • @swagcake
    @swagcake 8 месяцев назад +26

    Sasuke literally went from being no diffed by Lee (who trained for his speed for years) to surpassing Lee and wrecking non-jinchuuriki mode Gaara in less than a month with Kakashi’s training in the chuunin exams.
    I always wondered how much more he could progress with Kakashi but now that you mention it, he didn’t progress that much just because of Kakashi, he progressed because he is a genius, so going to Orochimaru for the most power gain makes sense.
    There’s just something very interesting about pre-war arc level shippuuden regarding training, skill and fights.

  • @antyrak7905
    @antyrak7905 8 месяцев назад +47

    So, you're doing what ifs right now? That's great.

  • @jonathanguaxinim-raccoon9321
    @jonathanguaxinim-raccoon9321 8 месяцев назад +73

    Best teachers for Sasuke to train if he stayed in the village: Kakashi (Sharingan and lightning jutsus), Guy (advanced taijutsu and opening 2 or 3 gates), Tsunade (increasing strength), Jiraiya (ninjutsu fire-style jutsus), Kurenai (genjutsu).

    • @mystarkiller1
      @mystarkiller1 8 месяцев назад +3

      💯

    • @EternalBrightness3
      @EternalBrightness3 8 месяцев назад +21

      Truth is, Sasuke wouldn’t just learn Sharingan and Lightning jutsu’s from Kakashi if he stayed in the village.
      He would have learnt & copied hundreds of jutsu. Sasuke’s problem lied in the fact that he was impatient for power. He mastered Chidori, used it against Itachi while blinded by the height of his rage, failed & gave up on Kakashi altogether. Not giving Kakashi the time to ease in & teach him a wealth of new powerful jutsu.
      He then sought out Orochimaru to perfect Curse marks level 1 & 2, master shape manipulation to l supplement the potency of his nature affinities and master Kenjutsu/Taijustu. But tell me, where did that get him when Itachi robbed him of the Curse mark?
      That’s right, he was reduced to Fire, Lightning and luckily a new Mangekyo. Completely devaluing the intent behind his time-skip training with Orochimaru. However, if he stayed in the village with Kakashi, he would have remained powerful & calculated throughout, in addition to mastering everything he did in the time-skip (minus the Curse mark which would have been compensated by plenty of powerful techniques & jutsu)

    • @blackogjesus
      @blackogjesus 8 месяцев назад +2

      Honestly I'd just like to see someone who can use the gates ( at least 4-7 gates) AND have jutsus/chakra.
      NGL seeing Sasuke use 3-5 gates on top of chidori and some fat fireballs ( like Madara majestic flame destroyer sized) would be sick.
      Then again other characters with the gates would be dope too.
      Choji in his butterfly mode (2-3 gates max)
      Ig Sakura/Tsunade with her 100 healings plus she's already strong (5-8 gates max 7 assuming 100 healings won't save her)
      Hinata ( 1-3 gates max mostly cause it'd be cool seeing the gentle fist combined)
      Naruto in boruto vortex (all 8 gates, NGL seeing an 8th gates sage mode rasen shuriken would probably go crazy sad but epic)
      Mitsuski, sry if spelled wrong( 2-5 gates just cause I'd like to see him stack snake sage with it lol)
      War Ark Kabuto ( 5 gates lol just like mitsuski cause seeing dragon sage with gates would be epic)
      HiDan (8 gates assuming he won't die but 7 max if he does)
      Kisame ( 7 gates max just to make him more broken for no reason plus imagine if he uses it in his shark transformation)
      4th and 3rd raikage ( 8 gates, seeing their chakra plus the lightning armor would be cool plus the speed amp would be crazy especially for the 4th)

    • @faytesaurelius350
      @faytesaurelius350 8 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@blackogjesus if anything, more than Baryon, Naruto using 8th Gate added with his decoys would be better and have bigger impact in Boruto.

    • @Matt-zb5hm
      @Matt-zb5hm 8 месяцев назад +1

      💀💀orochimaru training in the best for him stop the cap

  • @ObsidianMiner32
    @ObsidianMiner32 8 месяцев назад +18

    So I think even if Sasuke stayed in the leaf he would still eventually kill Itachi (just as part of the Leaf’s efforts to eliminate the Akatsuki threat), and the fight would go the same just without the orochimaru stuff. So he would definitely still get the MS/EMS.

  • @sergioramos1287
    @sergioramos1287 8 месяцев назад +14

    @DygoKnight some clarification regarding Naruto leaving the village to train with Jiraiya, the main reason is the Akatsuki.

  • @Grayson-Winchester
    @Grayson-Winchester 8 месяцев назад +39

    This is the sort of dynamic I was missing which would have made Sasuke vs Kakashi a brilliant fight.
    There are a lot of sensei vs students fights.

    • @jimynutron87
      @jimynutron87 8 месяцев назад +1

      Glad this didn’t happen…too much of the same character fighting each other.

    • @Grayson-Winchester
      @Grayson-Winchester 8 месяцев назад +6

      @@jimynutron87 why? I mean weren't
      Orochimaru vs Sarutobi
      Obito vs Minato
      Hashirama and Tobirama vs Hiruzen
      great fights?

    • @jimynutron87
      @jimynutron87 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@Grayson-Winchester ahhh some were better than others. 🥴 In each of the Sensei vs students fights, someone either died or extremely injured. I would rather not see kakashi put Sasuke on his azz or see Sasuke kill Kakashi…

    • @meraj5393
      @meraj5393 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@Grayson-Winchesterbud you somehow forgot jiraiya vs pain

    • @meraj5393
      @meraj5393 8 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@jimynutron87my biggest problem with shipudden was, we never feel sasuke is crazy. He should've killed or atleast injured some characters from konaha 11.

  • @HiAgainTheNameIsStillAyle
    @HiAgainTheNameIsStillAyle 8 месяцев назад +76

    Kakashi being a teacher? Impossible

    • @inplane9970
      @inplane9970 8 месяцев назад +12

      This. Kakashi only had interests in training Sasuke properly, but still couldn't instill a positive mindset into Sasuke because of his detached demeanor. Anyone with a conscience would've kept close surveillance on Sasuke after how badly his mental health declined after his fight against Itachi, teacher or not. AND Sasuke had a Curse Mark, which already puts Orochimaru within reach of Sasuke.
      With how everything went down, it's weird how they let Sasuke end up the way he did. Though seeing how Naruto was treated, it's not that surprising.

    • @EternalBrightness3
      @EternalBrightness3 8 месяцев назад +11

      @@inplane9970​​⁠
      Lying? He did instill a positive mindset in Sasuke. Before Sasuke met Kakashi, he was a lone wolf who had a tendency to handle obstacles alone. That changed after some time, to a point where even after Sasuke defected Konoha, he made sure to put Kakashi’s teachings of teamwork into practice to realize his goals, hence the formation of Hebi, then Taka.
      Kakashi couldn’t keep a proper eye on Sasuke after his encounter with Itachi in part 1, because Tsunade immediately assigned him on missions after he awoke from Tsukuyomi coma. But before attending said mission, he prioritized Sasuke’s mental welfare above it. Making sure to positively lecture Sasuke in the forest, which resulted in Sasuk being torn between staying in Konoha or defecting it from night till day.
      The sound four captailized on Kakashi’s absence and launched their attack on Sasuke, but that wasn’t a result of Kakashi being negligent, it was a result of him tending to his duties as a ninja.

    • @EternalBrightness3
      @EternalBrightness3 8 месяцев назад

      @HiAgainTheNameIsStillAyle
      I forgot to mention how weird your comment is considering the fact that he’s acted as a teacher multiple times.
      During the bell test.
      During the tree climbing exercise.
      During Sasuke’s Chidori training, where he also had him master Lee’s high-speed Taijutsu in just two weeks.
      And During Naruto’s Rasenshuriken training, where Kakashi taught him way more than Jiraiya did in 3 years in under a month.

    • @HiAgainTheNameIsStillAyle
      @HiAgainTheNameIsStillAyle 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@EternalBrightness3 Ngl, in a world like Naruto only being a teacher once in a while is really not good 💀
      Especially since your teachings are what can save your students from life and death situations

    • @inplane9970
      @inplane9970 8 месяцев назад +5

      @@EternalBrightness3 Working as a team is less on Kakashi and more on Sasuke's instincts on using people to his advantage. He used Orochimaru as a power up, then killed him. He used Karin as a diversion, and then didn't hesitate to kill her. He even abandoned Jugo and Suigetsu up until the Hokage Revival arc because they were the closest connections to Orochimaru.
      Heck, his motive to work with Naruto and Sakura during the final arc is to get rid of all obstacles so he can kill Naruto. If that's Kakashi's teachings, then he did an awful job.
      And it's not like Kakashi is some random guy seeking help. He has connections to the entirety of ANBU and is trusted amongst the Jonin. He can easily set up multiple squads to keep eyes over Sasuke. Not expecting Orochimaru to make a move on Sasuke after he explicitly stated he wanted Sasuke's body is just odd.

  • @jason15212
    @jason15212 8 месяцев назад +10

    I think he would’ve improved about the same regardless. It would’ve probably helped Kakashi as well. The main things Sasuke got from orochimaru was summonings and the curse mark(which he already had prior to leaving konoha) other than that it’s not really clear what he learned specifically from Orochimaru. The summonings and absorbing Orochimaru is a big deal tho. I think he would’ve gotten to the level he was prior to absorbing Orochimaru under kakashi but the boost he got from absorbing Orochimaru is 100% necessary
    Kakashi stylistically makes more sense for Sasuke to train under and would’ve made him more versatile if he wanted to be but more than likely Kakashi would’ve trained him to be even better what he’s naturally good with and that’s fire and lightning. Training with Kakashi could’ve made Sasuke sharingan even sharper(help kakashi as well and bounce Chidori ideas off of each as we see both of them developed a lot Chidori varients.
    Kakashi had the beast, the lightning cable, used it to neutralize other lightning attacks against him. Idk if Kakashi would waste time teaching him other elements because that’s not his style. He more so focuses on strengths and makes them stronger.

  • @JoGoat20
    @JoGoat20 8 месяцев назад +15

    My question is how strong both Naruto and Sasuke would be if they trained with each other throughout the time skip like goku and vegeta does.

    • @newlife6265
      @newlife6265 8 месяцев назад +5

      Weaker? Naruto trained with Jiraya and was still very weak after the time skip. He lucky he had kurama to save him

    • @justinarzola4584
      @justinarzola4584 8 месяцев назад +5

      They definitely would of been weaker no doubt, Sasuke benefited greatly from Orochimaru and Naruto barely progressed by Jiraiya 's training.

    • @MrCadeRay
      @MrCadeRay 8 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@newlife6265 honestly I feel like the time skip was more for Sakura than Sasuke and Naruto

    • @Nev1812
      @Nev1812 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@MrCadeRay😶

    • @JoGoat20
      @JoGoat20 7 месяцев назад

      @@newlife6265 Naruto was weak becoz their entire training trip was focused on mastering kuramas chakra which was failed royally and only led to Naruto being even more of a liability than before (Tsunade deployed yamato becoz Naruto was losing control everytime he was in battle).
      Obviously him training with sasuke would be his training on becoming stronger with his own strength than relying on nine tails which Naruto won't even master until war arc.
      Sasuke tho would definitely be bit weaker than cannon since he won't master his curse mark and won't get snake summoning (may get toads instead). He would still likely create Kirin tho. Hell Sasuke might just put kurama into genjutsu everytime they needed Naruto to use kuramas chakra.

  • @kokroughtoss1257
    @kokroughtoss1257 8 месяцев назад +16

    I'm curious as to how the story would've changed if Sasuke had stayed. Would that have been better or worse for the characters involved?

    • @HC-gm4fo
      @HC-gm4fo 8 месяцев назад +2

      Worse by a lot.

    • @justinarzola4584
      @justinarzola4584 8 месяцев назад +4

      If Sasuke was still there a lot of characters would stagnate,Sakura specifically.

    • @MarioDaGoatte
      @MarioDaGoatte 8 месяцев назад +4

      Naruto being so passionate about getting stronger and being so competitive might light a fire under the rest of the konoha 11. Nobody wanted to be surpassed by the fox boy

    • @EternalBrightness3
      @EternalBrightness3 8 месяцев назад

      Much worse.

    • @SlyScyther
      @SlyScyther 8 месяцев назад +3

      Sasuke was a black hole for the story. Absolutely everything revolved around him. Had he stayed, we could have been spared hundreds of chapters saving Sasuke and focus on other things in the world. Better world building, more interesting conflicts.

  • @ronnie3613
    @ronnie3613 8 месяцев назад +4

    I always envisioned a Konoha Sasuke really honing in on being a well-rounded ninja like Kakashi, excelling in the basic jutsu (Nin, Tai, Gen). I see him developing a secondary rivalry and respect for Rock Lee (mirroring Gai and Kakashi). No weapons, just hands. Also I figure he would be one of the few of the Konoha 12 to be a jonin. Even a jonin sensei (if I'm being fanfic-y). Essentially just a Sasuke who mirrored his path during the Chunin Exam era. Heavy taijutsu user, vast/varied ninjutsu, solid genjutsu.

  • @logicalityztm6759
    @logicalityztm6759 8 месяцев назад +10

    Honestly, he’d be about the same stat wise minus the curse mark training. He’d be a bit more versatile overall. Kakashi would teach him different chakra natures, and teach him how to use the gates to increase his base. Sasuke would receive training on his sharingan, learning to copy more abilities, and overall just increasing the effectiveness of his three tomoe sharingan. Remember, he’d probably be going on missions often which also would be a form of training as well. He’d still learn his chidori variants, if not more since Kakashi would be guiding him and feeding him ideas, given he developed variants as well. It’s iffy on whether he’d have Kirin or not, but considering he only uses it during one fight in the manga, Kirin isn’t really that important overall-despite it being his strongest jutsu. More than likely though, Kakashi would help him develop a rasenshuriken-level jutsu. possibly a real rasengan lightning variant, and not a failed version. Last, Kakashi would as you said teach Sasuke about the mangekyo. This would more-so be more useful during his fight with Itachi. Kakashi may not have as much knowledge on forbidden jutsu, or some other things like Oro but Kakashi still has a LOT of knowledge and experience.

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 8 месяцев назад +21

    Dygo! You're the best naruto content creator! Thanks For all your hardwork and dedication 🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤

  • @nolinordwora5574
    @nolinordwora5574 8 месяцев назад +3

    Before dying in his conversation with kabuto, orochimaru said it himself "there is no one in this world who can train him as well as in do" so orochimaru knew what power sasuke gained on his side ( kage level)

  • @revalier3670
    @revalier3670 8 месяцев назад +5

    I could honestly see Sasuke being smart enough to get training from both sides LOL think about it. First, training with Kakashi for a year and a half possibly learning water or earth style, all the Chidori variations, and to surprise Naruto, Rasengan since Kakashi knows it too. After some convincing and getting the okay from Tsunade, Sasuke could seek Orochimaru out which won't be hard with Kabuto around. He'll basically tell Orochimaru that he wanted to gain every ounce of power from Konoha and shows him the Rasengan. Orochi being hungry for an Uchiha body would gladly train him but be way more cautious.

  • @LILT910
    @LILT910 8 месяцев назад +2

    Curse mark is senjutsu, great guiding tool. If he gets Proficient enough in senjutsu he could learn SageMode without the stick the frogs use.
    Then if he has sagemode, he can draw in even more natural energy than the cursemark.
    The only problem is, the curse mark gives you Orochimaru's senjutsu chakra. Even if fueled by Sasuke's Sagemode the cursemark would still be influencable because of its link to Orochimaru.

  • @MrTbomb52
    @MrTbomb52 8 месяцев назад +8

    no matter what losing out on the snake jutsu and summoning contracts is a major nerf

    • @recentteen14
      @recentteen14 8 месяцев назад +1

      Kakashi has dog summons though, so Sasuke would still manage to get a summoning contract - just a different kind. Does mean he won't get out of Deidra's bomb the same way if the fight still happened, but he would also likely have a better mastery of the Sharingan and Lightning Style, so he may not need to Reverse Summon his way out either.

    • @FriendlyGhost-rf7tq
      @FriendlyGhost-rf7tq Месяц назад

      he could learn Snake summoning from Anko he actually has more options and recourses in Konoha if he would just applie himself

  • @PrinceSamTV
    @PrinceSamTV 8 месяцев назад +2

    I rewatch that scene in the hotel and that is 1000% what made him leave. He was crushed and had no other choice at that point

  • @lemguins7031
    @lemguins7031 8 месяцев назад +2

    Not only all that, but if he was able to teach Sasuke the theory-crafting behind jutsu's to envision their complete versions from partial data, like Lee's Taijutsu and successfully teaching him the Chidori in a week, you also gotta remember that he has an arsenal of thousands of jutsu to let him copy outright, even if it's the hand-seal version because it's outside of Sasuke's affinities.

  • @banshotenin1178
    @banshotenin1178 8 месяцев назад +37

    It's hard to consider Kakashi to be the better teacher to help you achieve ur goal of killing your brother when Kakashi had just been cucked by said brother Itachi. At least the power Orochimaru gave Sasuke was highly noticeable and Orochimaru had Kage Killer on his resume.
    Sasuke is literally what pushed Naruto and Sakura to get much stronger than they would have had he stayed. Sasuke starts out Shipuuden strong enough to be a Kage much like Gaara. That's likely not happening with Kakashi as his primary teach as Kakashi at that point in time wasn't even that level himself.
    And I think in order for Sasuke to become much more powerful, he'd need someone much more powerful to train him to reach his full potential. That obviously wasn't Kakashi.
    Despite their similarities Kakashi saw Neji and felt like Sasuke wouldn't be able to reach his level.
    Orochimaru shows up and after fighting Sasuke, not too long after he reaches then surpasses Neji's level. Kakashi would limit Sasuke and all of team 7 would be weaker as a result.
    Meaning they'd be screwed later on in Shipuuden especially when it came to taking on the god like characters that appeared from and after Pain.

    • @roxasbaker
      @roxasbaker 8 месяцев назад +11

      Orochimaru killed two Kages in less than 2 weeks

    • @isactalisson
      @isactalisson 8 месяцев назад +12

      Well, consider that orochimaru was also clapped by itachi, and kakashi did not use his full potential (most likely a retcon) against itachi either just like guy. It's tough to beat orochimaru in the theoretical field tho, that's probably what gave sasuke the edge after the timeskip.

    • @EternalBrightness3
      @EternalBrightness3 8 месяцев назад +5

      Ironic you say that when Orochimaru was cucked by a base Itachi Genjutsu in seconds. At least Kakashi put up a fight & was considered threatening enough for Itachi to bring out the MS.
      Also, Sasuke had more potential than Kakashi due to his Uchiha heritage. Meaning Kakashi would have been hammering the immense knowledge & jutsu he aquired along the years into a ninja better equipped to use them due to his enormous chakra reserves (Sasuke) as well providing him the necessary Sharingan training to overcome Itachi, or better yet teaming-up with him for an ensured victory.

    • @banshotenin1178
      @banshotenin1178 8 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@EternalBrightness3
      If Orochimaru was completely taken out of commission like Kakashi was and had to be carried away like Kakashi was, then I'd agree with you that Orochimaru got cucked by Itachi... but he didn't. Even Kakashi was aware Orochimaru was vastly more powerful than him. Both were vastly weaker than Itachi.
      If Kakashi teamed up with Sasuke to defeat him and Itachi actually wanted them dead, then they'd both die. Even sick, itachi was too far above both of them.
      I like Kakashi as a character, he's awesome but at the end of the day there are also a number of restrictions Kakashi would put on Sasuke's training which Orochimaru obviously didn't despite him being really intelligent and being a Sharingan user himself.

    • @banshotenin1178
      @banshotenin1178 8 месяцев назад +5

      @@isactalisson True, Itachi basically clapped everyone he fought and actually wanted to beat, but considering how much more powerful Orochimaru is than Kakashi was and having mastered so many jutsu as well like Kakashi and not having to worry about breaking rules or using forbidden Jutsu, Sasuke was like a Thoroughbred allowed to run free to his fullest potential

  • @Chronoflation
    @Chronoflation 8 месяцев назад +3

    Well, he wouldn't have had Kirin and his chakra reserves probably would've been less, but his other capabilities may have been fine and he'd probably have a better temperament and be able to handle emotional situations a bit better. Maybe he would've come to terms with his anger and sadness and learned to face things head on without losing himself to his anger. He was pretty stoic a lot of the time after his training with Orochimaru, but it was in an uncaring way, and when he cared he'd be rife with anger, so not really in control the way Kakashi could teach him to be. Sure, there is some benefit to utilizing your emotions, but I think the clear head that Kakashi would've taught Sasuke to have would've been very effective.

  • @bananarnold1831
    @bananarnold1831 8 месяцев назад +4

    Remember, the entire reason that encounter with Itachi happened was because a random Jonin walked in at the wrong time to dump a bunch of exposition in front of Sasuke while visiting Kakashi. So basically, the plot of Shippuden was the result of one gigantic “oops”.

  • @AbegazNap
    @AbegazNap 8 месяцев назад +5

    out here in the cold waiting for part 35

  • @Shadowjaixao
    @Shadowjaixao 8 месяцев назад +2

    Started watching your videos a couple days ago and since then i have watched everysingle video and knowing more stuff and good souvenirs of when i was a kid watching naruto thankyou.

  • @IBH94
    @IBH94 8 месяцев назад +2

    I always found it funny that sasuke uses wires all around but never to conduct lightning

  • @galactick3816
    @galactick3816 8 месяцев назад +2

    I feel like Kakashi might have taught Sasuke how to open the eight gates so temporarily he would be able to far exceed the canon Sasuke with even the second gate. As far as the jutsu variety goes I feel like he would be taught way more options by staying in the leaf village.
    Raw power isn't everything, he might not have any jutsu as hard hitting as Kirin but I feel he would be overall better fighter, especially training with Naruto whose fighting style up to about midway point of shippuden is to "Keep taking hits until the other side falls" which would likely help Sasuke with endurance - not necesarility increasing his stamina but helping him pace his fights better.
    Versatility is one of the most important factor in fight when all else is relative, I know Bleach gets ragged on when the fights devolved into "Who can pull out more secret aces" but that's actually smart fighting looks like. The less information (or even better the more missinformation) your enemy has about you the higher the chances of your survival. Realistically Orochimaru's Sasuke had 2 or 3 fire jutsu, few variations of Chidori, and his sharingan genjutsu, Kirin is too situational to be useful in unplanned fight. Kakashi's Sasuke would have way more than that I feel.
    (What I mean with Naruto - The mist village trio in the forest of death, Kiba (even though that was cut short by the fart), He beat Neji because after the last clash he was too spent to be able to dodge. Haku, Sasuke in the valley of the end, Kabuto)

  • @Mr.Lubbox-Lobsterlegz1
    @Mr.Lubbox-Lobsterlegz1 8 месяцев назад +3

    Kakashi can also create a lightning clone that detonates upon impact

  • @brucelston
    @brucelston 8 месяцев назад +4

    Only thing Orochi that puts him over kakashi is being absorbed and giving all those small passive bonuses to Sasuke which is what allowed him to survive with less plot armor. The TRUE reason Kishi got rid of orochi is because once Sasuke unlocks Mangekyou, his chakra level will grow dramatically thus enabling Sasuke to spam Orochimarus snake shed techniques thus making him virtually unkillable. Can’t have Sasuke THAT op. That’s why the author refuse to give him clone jutsu too. So I always laugh when haters say Sasuke got plot armor but in reality it’s only to protect everyone from Sasuke.

    • @FriendlyGhost-rf7tq
      @FriendlyGhost-rf7tq Месяц назад

      Orochimaru would of come after him eventually any way there is nothing stopping Sasuke from puling a same trick he did in canon

    • @FriendlyGhost-rf7tq
      @FriendlyGhost-rf7tq Месяц назад

      Kishi wanted to prevent Sasuke from being to op but then did exactly that with Madara he made him to op and hade to create Kaguya

  • @MrKoutsuko
    @MrKoutsuko 8 месяцев назад +5

    Kakashi would be the one to become a lot stronger if Sasuke stayed.
    To be honest, I can't see Kakashi being th perfect master for Sasuke, he could train him for ANBU operations (give him experience of war and assassination as well as the training to make him faster, stealthier and etc.), but that would be it.
    Sasuke could learn the 8 gates, Kage bunshin, more chackra natures alongside some useful situational jutsus, but that wouldn't be good for the series. Another thing about it is that the only way for Sasuke to stay was if both he and Naruto became wiser and gained some maturity, Naruto stopped beign the selfish hypocrite and for once understand the people will suffer differently and he was the one pushing Sasuke away, and Sasuke getting the trust he was seeking, knowing his team had his back and they will do a btter job than him alone.
    That being said, Orochimaru wasn't a better teacher, but it was a better environment. Smart and creative people have their epiphany alone, but need a team to make it perfect.
    The way I see it, Orochimaru was the most suited person to teach Sasuke about Sharingan, better than Kakashi, but that was the only thing Orochimaru personally teach to Sasuke... Maybe the Snakes, or that could be Kabuto as well as the drugs. But his techniques and ideas would be developed alone and in secret. Orochimaru could know about Kirin and show the missing pieces, but I bet it was 80% Sasuke ans 20% Orochi on how he developed that jutsu, something like "Kakashi cut a Lightning with this just, could I do that as wel-- wait... How can I gat a lighting to test-- If I could summon a lightning-- maybe I can, but... How...".
    But idk, If the series was named Sasuke, maybe he could become more mentally stable and learned 8 gates, Kage Bunshin, Sage more and the whole plot would be about Danzo trying to get Sasuke.

  • @HellGod67
    @HellGod67 7 месяцев назад +1

    Everybody needed Sasuke to go missing for character development, which Naruto didn't get much.

  • @Psusanoo
    @Psusanoo 8 месяцев назад +3

    He probably would of told Sasuke to cast himself under a genjutsu to train inside there, relizing the potential of increase mental faculties.

  • @theamazingmarlbito6293
    @theamazingmarlbito6293 8 месяцев назад +1

    This is why i love your channel

  • @virn333
    @virn333 8 месяцев назад +10

    Its one of those things where the narrative really implies one thing but idk man kakashi made naruto kage level in a few weeks and is one of the only other peoole with a sharingan and mangekyo to train sasuke with

    • @jaioncebollero1168
      @jaioncebollero1168 8 месяцев назад +8

      No he didn’t lmao

    • @XilPrivChannel
      @XilPrivChannel 8 месяцев назад +4

      ​@jaioncebollero1168 thank god you said it. Naruto isn't kage lv when he beats kakuzu, the kakuzu fight is just trash. Even if you want to use that garbage narrative it's a weakened kakuzu who was fighting a 6 on 1. Naruto just landed a jutsu that kakuzu shoulda dodged. Naruto is kage only at the pain fight.

    • @rashotcake6945
      @rashotcake6945 2 месяца назад

      That was only possible bc of naruto’s shadow clones, which are broken and op when it comes to training. Sasuke doesn’t have that

  • @NotMyAccount
    @NotMyAccount 7 месяцев назад +1

    Kakashi would have had better results. Remember that Orochimaru didnt actually care about Sasuke's training. He just wanted to keep him around and get him ready to become his vessel. In fact, Orochimaru wanted to make sure that Sasuke doesnt surpass him in the 3 year time needed for him to get his body so that he could still do it. He probably just made Sasuke think he is trying to help him by teaching him stuff to the point that Sasuke realised that and started developing chidori variants by himself. Kakashi on the other hand would not have hidden reasons to make sure Sasuke is kept at a certaint level.
    As proof of how good Kakashi is as a teacher is shown when he helps Naruto develop the Rasenshuriken by teaching him about info gathering with his clones and change in chakra nature. What did Jiraiya do in 3 years? He helped Naruto make a slightly bigger Rasengan.

  • @ChristianCaliberNetwork
    @ChristianCaliberNetwork 8 месяцев назад +3

    Sasuke would've been alot weaker than his time skip self, but eventually stronger since a person's good will plays a big factor in their strength.

  • @ok-ru6pw
    @ok-ru6pw 8 месяцев назад +5

    I think that sasuke would use help from other people to get stronger because that what Naruto taught him, maybe he would be stronger in genjetsu and physically stronger and faster if he trained with lee

  • @dannysha6458
    @dannysha6458 8 месяцев назад +2

    If sasuke trained with kakashi his range of jutsus would’ve definitely been greater but other than that orochimaru offered sasuke too much in terms of drugs, curse mark control, and the jutsu he was taught by orochimaru

  • @trulysenzo_ontt
    @trulysenzo_ontt 8 месяцев назад +2

    Love your videos bro ❤

  • @guccimui5173
    @guccimui5173 8 месяцев назад +5

    What if the uchiha trained sasuke or what if itachi and shisui trained sasuke

    • @FriendlyGhost-rf7tq
      @FriendlyGhost-rf7tq Месяц назад

      if Sasuke was trained the same way Itachi was basically groomed sense birth to be a killing weapon by his father

  • @Luffymynika11
    @Luffymynika11 8 месяцев назад +2

    Sasuke already learned everything he needed from kakashi in pt1, while oroicmaru made sasuke poison resistance and got him to kage lvl since he solo team 7 in the beginning of shippuden then beat Deidra 1v1, who just beat kage gaara in the beginning of shippuden oroimaru was the best sensei for him kakashi already played his role in pt1.

  • @sl1xk683
    @sl1xk683 8 месяцев назад +7

    Dygo favorite character is clearly Sasuke

    • @dantesreaIms
      @dantesreaIms 8 месяцев назад +9

      No sh*t if he had the chance he would change the anime name from Naruto to Sasuke

    • @-error-7936
      @-error-7936 8 месяцев назад +3

      Sasuke sucks

    • @MrKoutsuko
      @MrKoutsuko 8 месяцев назад +13

      Tbh, the whole anime IS about Sasuke, he is a Seinen character stuck into a Shounen manga, he got a lot of development and weight on how he thinks and acts. If Naruto wasn't such a selfish hypocrite, the story would be a lot smoother and Sasuke would've be seen as a "better character" in many people's eye's.
      But is exactly that what makes him interesting... Flaws, mistakes, dilemas.
      You may not agree with how Sasuke thinks, but you can absolutely see why he would think that way and see that he is playing the hand he got and willing to go to the bitter end if that achieves a better conclusion.

    • @headshotmaster138
      @headshotmaster138 8 месяцев назад

      So do you ​@@-error-7936

    • @FriendlyGhost-rf7tq
      @FriendlyGhost-rf7tq 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@dantesreaIms me to

  • @jonathanguaxinim-raccoon9321
    @jonathanguaxinim-raccoon9321 8 месяцев назад +3

    Sasuke under Orochimaru's training: Base Hebi Sasuke beat up Naruto with 3 tails and can suppressed his red kyuubi/kurama chakra cloak with Sharingan. Sasuke under Kakashi's training: being beaten up by Naruto with 1 tail.

    • @markoshpuza1296
      @markoshpuza1296 8 месяцев назад

      That never happened 3 tails naruto never fought hebi sasuke

    • @jonathanguaxinim-raccoon9321
      @jonathanguaxinim-raccoon9321 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@markoshpuza1296 Orochimaru said that Naruto with 3 tails was no match for Sasuke. no even close.

    • @SRVaris
      @SRVaris 8 месяцев назад

      Yah Orochimaru had 3 YEARS while Kakashi had like a few months at most(If were talking about 1 on 1 training its only 2 weeks) so not the most apt comparison.

    • @HC-gm4fo
      @HC-gm4fo 8 месяцев назад

      Naruto let him do it, but I get what you mean

    • @joaov.candido8399
      @joaov.candido8399 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@HC-gm4foNaruto couldn't do shit against a base BOS Sasuke who was holding back.

  • @Sg190th
    @Sg190th 8 месяцев назад +2

    2:30 No. Jiraiya told Naruto to forget about Sasuke. The training is meant to be prepared for the Akatsuki.

    • @Naluh
      @Naluh 8 месяцев назад +1

      Naruto said no to that, and Jiraiya relented.

  • @JayceOdinSon
    @JayceOdinSon 8 месяцев назад +1

    4TH COMMENT BTW THIS VIDEO IS FIREEEEE!!! also love your channel

  • @ddanbeatz186
    @ddanbeatz186 8 месяцев назад +1

    Is there a single Sasuke fan that doesn't glaze him with reckless abandon.

  • @huh155
    @huh155 8 месяцев назад +3

    Actually naruto left the village with jiraya not only to bring Sasuke back, but he had to go with jiraya to get stronger as the akatsuki were tailing jinchuirkis

    • @newlife6265
      @newlife6265 8 месяцев назад

      He didn’t even get stronger though

    • @NoxLebeau
      @NoxLebeau 8 месяцев назад

      @@newlife6265he did actually but ppl only care about big jutsu, if you actually pay attention to the series before the time skip Naruto’s basic fighting skills are non existent and fights like a brawler, it’s way cleaner and has technique and counters after the skip

    • @JoGoat20
      @JoGoat20 7 месяцев назад

      @@NoxLebeau the training was definitely a failure if all he learned for 3 yrs was mere basics while sakura learned medic Jutsu, super strength, taijutsu(better than Naruto at that point) and summoning. And it was already stated that majority of training focus was harnessing nine tails chakra which was a failure.

    • @NoxLebeau
      @NoxLebeau 7 месяцев назад

      @@JoGoat20 wow a genius lvl intelligence is gonna learn more faster who would’ve thought. Make a better comparison if you want to make a point

    • @JoGoat20
      @JoGoat20 7 месяцев назад

      @@NoxLebeau it's just a comparison of how much each student improved under sannins training. Narutos trip was a royal failure and only made him even bigger liability than he was pre timeskip due to loosening of seal. Tsunade literally had to deploy Yamato as he was losing control to kurama every now and then.

  • @dreidrei1643
    @dreidrei1643 6 месяцев назад +17

    Jesus Loves all of you guys

  • @JasonSmith-fr2jy
    @JasonSmith-fr2jy 8 месяцев назад +1

    At Orochimaru's hide out Sasuke, Kabuto, and ocrohimaru all disappear using some kind of a fire style teleportation jutsu.
    What was that technique? If it was not a teleportation jutsu then were they all fire clones because if so then that would mean that Sasuke was only using half his strength when he defeated all of them

  • @jalenjohnson0339
    @jalenjohnson0339 8 месяцев назад +1

    If Sasuke didn’t leave the village like others said he would be more versatile meaning Kakashi could teach him a lot of justu from the other elements.
    I actually could see Kakashi having Sasuke make a contract with his ninja hounds as well and Sasuke would probably be more analytical when it comes to fighting like Kakashi as well and eventually he would probably learn the different chidori techniques as well.
    In sort Sasuke would be around the same level as Hebi Sasuke or a bit weaker but he would be more well rounded as a ninja

  • @agustin12689
    @agustin12689 8 месяцев назад +8

    But you forget that If they got Sasuke back then he would have been castrated in order to calm him and make him docile.

    • @divinity4653
      @divinity4653 8 месяцев назад +2

      how would castrating Sasuke help? he would still be a threat without his balls.

  • @enderfox1699
    @enderfox1699 8 месяцев назад

    Well naruto's Rasen shuriken is his jutsu alone, but it is part of a jutsu family of the rasengan, it is the rasengan with wind nature chakra.
    Essentially, the 4th hokage developed the rasengan which was similar to the tailed beast bomb just without tailed beast chakra. And it's rotation.
    But the rasen shuriken variation before it was called wind release Rasengan, a rasengan with wind chakra, and then rasen shuriken was just an intense and bigger version of it.

  • @andriy_tato
    @andriy_tato 7 месяцев назад

    Can you make a video about if Kakashi could be accepted to Akatsuki? Would he fit in power-wise? Maybe add Guy too.

  • @trealmedianetwork
    @trealmedianetwork 8 месяцев назад +1

    Glorious day to be early and on a lunch break

  • @محمدحسینکیومرثیچهارخانهسری

    What if Hiruzen and danzo trained Naruto and Sasuke from 8 years old after the Uchiha Massacre

  • @YayoHernandez-b1j
    @YayoHernandez-b1j 8 месяцев назад +7

    you got to make this what ifs what if Naruto was a full Uzumaki what if Orochimaru trained Kakashi what if jiraiya became the fourth Hokage and lastly great what if my friend

    • @nikothehero799
      @nikothehero799 8 месяцев назад +1

      Naruto is a full Uzumaki + senju + namikaze. He's asura reincarnate, he's the original dude who started both those bloodlines, its just one of his grandchildren started playing with seals more than the other senju.

    • @YayoHernandez-b1j
      @YayoHernandez-b1j 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@nikothehero799 no, nope I wanna see it on what if man

  • @RealWorldGaming
    @RealWorldGaming 8 месяцев назад +1

    The biggest Hot take was saying Sasuke was at Kage level during Reunion
    Edit: Naruto was told by Kakashi that he is incompatible considering that they didn’t have the same Chakra nature so he would still go with Jiraiya. Sasuke would Get Ninjutsu from his enemies, Get Genjutsu, still have curse mark, evolve his Sharingan that comes with having curse mark, He would legit be High Sanin level.The fact that Sasuke doesn’t know any Genjutsu as a uchiha is criminal especially when your clan is known for specializing in it.

    • @lfb7834
      @lfb7834 8 месяцев назад +1

      Sasuke uses genjutsu more than Kakashi, lol.

  • @jamisonreynolds9949
    @jamisonreynolds9949 8 месяцев назад +12

    I think calling Sasuke “kage level” after the time skip is a stretch. I just couldn’t see him winning against any kage that early.

    • @DygoKnight
      @DygoKnight  8 месяцев назад +9

      He's beyond kage level

    • @jamisonreynolds9949
      @jamisonreynolds9949 8 месяцев назад +12

      @@DygoKnight How though? Do you seriously think that Sasuke would be able to 1v1 all of the kage at that point? He won’t even have the tools he had during the 5 Kage Summit.
      I genuinely don’t see how he is “beyond kage level” with only the base Sharingan. I’d even use his fight against Deidara as an example. Sasuke barely survived that despite having an elemental advantage over Deidara, whereas Gaara likely could have defeated Deidara had he not tried to nuke the Sand Village. Even when MS Sasuke fought Gaara, it’s not like he was gonna breeze through him. His Amaterasu was blocked and the sand could bypass Susanoo if needed. So how is a weaker version of that Sasuke beating any kage?

    • @jiero3253
      @jiero3253 8 месяцев назад +7

      ​@@jamisonreynolds9949 The raikage is the only one he really can't beat.
      Edo Deidara stalemated onoki in the war arc and you know how that went, Mai would get fodderized for obvious reasons, the whole thing with garra and the amateuru is a misconception, in the anime it looks like he casted it on the sand while in the manga we see the amaterasu moving from his susanno to garra meaning he didn't use the version that is instanious. Plus Deidara was holding back as to not kill garra cause he needed him alive, C4 would finish him easily

    • @lilasscheek9012
      @lilasscheek9012 8 месяцев назад +1

      beyond kage level is crazy but he was kage level only because he won against deidera, who was kage level

    • @greentube1357
      @greentube1357 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@jiero3253right fax

  • @justsomeguy6336
    @justsomeguy6336 8 месяцев назад

    There seems to be an unlimited amount of things to talk about when it comes to Naruto

  • @DalekOfChaos666
    @DalekOfChaos666 2 месяца назад

    Always had this headcanon that if Sasuke stayed in the village that Sasuke would've been trained by Kakashi and Anko

  • @JBvideos87483
    @JBvideos87483 4 месяца назад +1

    We didn’t know if sasuke was stronger than naruto during the timeskip because everyone forgets naruto was EXTREMELY fatigued when he faced sasuke because of the fight with orochimaru, his 4 tails transformation, and the fact he was falling on the ground a lot because of how tired he was

    • @joaov.candido8399
      @joaov.candido8399 4 месяца назад

      We literally know because Orochimaru literally tell that 3 Tails Naruto don't hold a candle to BOS Sasuke and he literally blitz the whole Team 7 without even trying and none see he is coming.
      Sasuke literally wake up and bully the fuck out of new team Kakashi and literally make Naruto & Sakura for how weak they are.
      Kurama was impress by Sasuke's evolution and still call Naruto a weak MF after 2 years and a half of training and said that Naruto need his power to be useful.

    • @JBvideos87483
      @JBvideos87483 4 месяца назад

      @@joaov.candido8399 Kurama and orochimaru said that to taunt naruto and like I said that was a extremely exhausting and don’t get me wrong sasuke was more powerful than naruto but we don’t know the extent

  • @enderfox1699
    @enderfox1699 8 месяцев назад

    Was chicory spear before or after the war? Because I don't recall sasuke ever using it during his early shippuden arcs.
    I only recall chicory stream and senbon, which was displayed both during team 7 reunion and against deidara

  • @le0shadow
    @le0shadow 8 месяцев назад

    Have you ever played Ragnarok Online? I noticed you use many RO's BGMs in your videos.

  • @IllusorySpectre
    @IllusorySpectre 8 месяцев назад +3

    Sasuke would be far stronger if he stayed in the leaf as long as he did not limit himself to only kakashi. Then he could learn the gates from lee and the strength abiltiy of sakura and tsunade so he would have base tsunade strength plus a tier 2 curse mark amp plus a 8 gates amp he would be unstoppable.

  • @P3rpleJ
    @P3rpleJ 8 месяцев назад

    This was a great video

  • @PheonixTV1
    @PheonixTV1 7 месяцев назад

    2 things to add
    1. Sasuke wouldn't have access to the snake summonings if a stayed
    2. The motivation of Naruto's presence + motivation of vengeance for Itachi would create a motivation feedback loop where every-time he sees Naruto getting stronger, it'd make him feel like if he couldn't catch up to Naruto he would never catch up to Itachi which would motivate him to train way harder.

    • @anvos658
      @anvos658 Месяц назад

      Well he wouldn't have the snake, but he could have tried to follow traditional summoning animals for his clan.

    • @PheonixTV1
      @PheonixTV1 Месяц назад

      @@anvos658 agreed

  • @samuquinhaplay5708
    @samuquinhaplay5708 7 месяцев назад

    I think the main difference that Orochimaru and Kakashi is their behavior, Kakashi wants to train Sasuke but its difficult to say how much risk he would put on it.
    Orochimaru wanted Sasuke's body but he also wanted a perfect vessel, so I'd argue Orochimaru probaly experimented and was more reckless with his training on Sasuke, he has Kabuto and a lot of drugs at his disposal.
    Also bear in mind, Orochimaru's objective was to master every jutsu possible so he is the most knowledgeable person with jutsu development.

  • @lobaoguara2332
    @lobaoguara2332 8 месяцев назад +3

    Now I want to see Sakura's version

  • @louismarie3537
    @louismarie3537 5 месяцев назад

    Actually it IS Jiraya who taugh Naruto to use the shadow clone jutsu to get more experience for the first Time in part one of the show while they some hours before Naruto used the summoning to summon gamabunta for the first time

  • @jablue4329
    @jablue4329 8 месяцев назад +1

    I don't think Sasuke even took drugs. It honestly sounded more like they were coping, rationalizing his strength. While the gap between the two isn't as stark as between Indra and Asura, Sasuke is supposed to be the gifted one.

  • @thegreatscribbles960
    @thegreatscribbles960 8 месяцев назад +1

    A way better question is what if sasuke was freaky and his name is Freaksuke

  • @abdoolkareem_
    @abdoolkareem_ 8 месяцев назад +2

    I dont want to accept that sasuke was "absolutely destroying" team kakashi. Yamato was just about to get serious. So we cant say for sure

    • @venomking3602
      @venomking3602 8 месяцев назад

      He did destroy them

    • @joaov.candido8399
      @joaov.candido8399 4 месяца назад

      He make them look like a bunch of clowns without even trying and after wake up from sleep LMAO

    • @bradleysmith6478
      @bradleysmith6478 2 месяца назад

      Lol if not for Orochimaru, Team 7 would have been charcoal,What was Yamato about do loool

    • @Jacob-4796
      @Jacob-4796 18 дней назад

      "YaMatO wAs abOut tO geT seriOus" 😂😂😂😂😂. stop the cope

  • @doggozwei281
    @doggozwei281 8 месяцев назад

    12:36
    Eight gates amp seems to multiply strength tho considering the difference between might guy and his father.

  • @AlejandroCaicedoPUJ
    @AlejandroCaicedoPUJ 8 месяцев назад +1

    I think you usually underestimate kage level since Ms saske was getting manhandled by every kage in the five kage summit. I think he would be sannin level or high join at best after the time skip

    • @zekite6467
      @zekite6467 7 месяцев назад

      MS sasuke was going after 3 conseuctive kage level shinobi, not to mention he subsequently beats Danzo as well. He was easily high kage level at that point.

    • @AlejandroCaicedoPUJ
      @AlejandroCaicedoPUJ 7 месяцев назад

      @@zekite6467 he was going after 3 consecutive kages and would have died to every single one of them if not for gaara, zetsu and tobi. He was getting manhandled by the raikage mad the tsuchikage and even the mizukage was destroying him with no effort. The danzo fight was the only fair one and danzo was trying to save power to fight with obito afterwards and even with that he barely won

  • @singerreid4624
    @singerreid4624 8 месяцев назад +1

    Kirin requires a set up so it couldn't be kirin off the bat

  • @lucasalves1406
    @lucasalves1406 8 месяцев назад

    Kakashi could have thought Sasuke any of his 1000 Copied Jutsus by teaching sasuke how to copy from him😂

  • @Fluffyudders
    @Fluffyudders 8 месяцев назад +2

    I thought that Naruto left the village during the time skip to make it harder for the Akatsuki to find him?

    • @newlife6265
      @newlife6265 8 месяцев назад

      No. They had to wait 3 years anyway. I can remember why though

    • @JoGoat20
      @JoGoat20 7 месяцев назад

      @@newlife6265 this were gathering resources or something like that.

  • @cogline9
    @cogline9 8 месяцев назад

    The real question is, which one would have the most swagger. My knee jerk reaction is to go with Oro-Sasuake but if you think about Kakashi over the length of the series there's some real potential there for Kaka-Sasuke to have that Big D energy in abundance.

  • @MEDelekates
    @MEDelekates 3 месяца назад

    i would guess Kakashi would be a better teacher. He guided Naruto after all and gave him a major boost

  • @kennyyang6350
    @kennyyang6350 8 месяцев назад +1

    Sauke dont have as much chakra as Naruto, but he does have a huge amount. Kakashi could of teach shadow clone to Sasuke to train him better. Sasuke just was never taught using the shadow clone and just not his style of fighting. Also, its a plot armor that sasuke cannot use shadow clone else he will be too overpower.

  • @draven_kx7
    @draven_kx7 8 месяцев назад +1

    I don’t believe Kakashi would’ve been a better teacher. Sasuke and him have plenty of similarities but Orochimaru is a Sanin and genius in his own right, a way more experienced and a stronger ninja overall than Kakashi at that time

  • @KingRumar
    @KingRumar Месяц назад

    Is nobody going to mention that Kakashi got Sasuke to perfect his sharingan’s capabilities in copying Lee’s speed and movements alongside chidori?

  • @jonathanguaxinim-raccoon9321
    @jonathanguaxinim-raccoon9321 8 месяцев назад +1

    Sasuke under Orochimaru's training: Hard training+drugs+steroids+doping+forbidden ritual jutsu(all speculated by Kakashi and Tsunade) making stronger while hypothetical Sasuke under Kakashi's training: only hard training.

    • @jasonmoukala8909
      @jasonmoukala8909 7 месяцев назад

      There was no drugs

    • @jonathanguaxinim-raccoon9321
      @jonathanguaxinim-raccoon9321 7 месяцев назад

      @@jasonmoukala8909 during the time Sasuke spent under Orochimaru's tutelage, it's true that Orochimaru put him through rigorous training and experimentation to enhance his strength. While the specifics of Sasuke's training under Orochimaru are not explicitly detailed, it's known that Orochimaru sought to exploit Sasuke's potential.
      Orochimaru, being obsessed with Uchiha power, likely used various methods to push Sasuke's limits. This could include intense physical training, possibly supplemented with drugs or steroids to enhance his abilities. Orochimaru was known for his unethical experimentation, so it wouldn't be far-fetched to speculate that he might have used drugs, steroids, forbidden jutsu or other dark jutsu ritual to augment Sasuke's power, as Kakashi and Tsunade might have suspected. Furthermore, Sasuke himself was driven by a desire to become stronger, particularly to seek vengeance against his brother Itachi for the destruction of their clan.

  • @lukesmith8967
    @lukesmith8967 8 месяцев назад

    Nice vid

  • @robertogomez2932
    @robertogomez2932 4 месяца назад

    Next video, "what if Itachi trained his brother"

  • @alexandrabailey9341
    @alexandrabailey9341 8 месяцев назад

    Kakashi is a good teacher twice 😂 once with Sasuke and once with Naruto

  • @mamtanim4722
    @mamtanim4722 8 месяцев назад +1

    Will the next rewrite come this month

  • @Infamous1892
    @Infamous1892 8 месяцев назад +1

    Dude, Orochimaru is a trash ass teacher. His prized pupil student did nothing but lose. Think about it, Sasuke trained under a Sannin and still could beat Itachi, didn’t stand a chance against Killer bee, and got stomped by the Kages. Orochimaru is a top teer fighter, but what was he doing with Sasuke's training? He should have stayed under Kakashi, he'd have teammates to back him, and he might have been able to win a fight.

  • @joeyfronto
    @joeyfronto 8 месяцев назад +1

    what if sasuke actually listened to itachi and killed his closest friend (naruto), would love to hear your take

    • @anvos658
      @anvos658 Месяц назад

      That entirely depends if Kurama respawns or gets pulled to his other half and thus one of the tailed beasts is off the table.

  • @elpsykongroo8308
    @elpsykongroo8308 8 месяцев назад +1

    Imo Kakashi training Sasuke would be just as strong if not stronger. Orochimaru training focused more on physical strength via drugs and curse mark. Whereas Kakashi's training would focus more on his his sharingan, speed and versatility. He would could have more chakra nature's, better genjutsu. Plus orochimaru was mostly bedridden and couldn't perform jutsus because of his hands as well and had Sasuke face fodder ninjas while training. But Sasuke would have a better experience by sparing with Kakashi who would be a sharingan user like Itachi.

  • @jauneork278
    @jauneork278 5 месяцев назад

    Everyone talking about how strong Kakashi might make Sasuke by training him. But honestly... I think Kakashi would learn just as much from Sasuke as Sasuke would learn from Kakashi. Which would ironically better his ability to Teach Sasuke.

  • @yardenl1998
    @yardenl1998 8 месяцев назад

    Interesting video to see

  • @halfgallon674
    @halfgallon674 8 месяцев назад

    I feel like orochimaru would’ve held him back through deceit, like I’m so certain orochimaru wouldn’t have told/taught him everything in order to make it easier to control him

  • @jauneork278
    @jauneork278 8 месяцев назад +4

    I think that because Sasuke would be doing more physical training and Sharingan Training under Kakashi who seems to have more battle IQ than Orochimaru, Aka more practical combat advice for Sasuke as opposed to more basic knowledge from Orochimaru. He'd be just as fast and strong, probably moreso with more chakra. Only it would be natural. Plus the number of Jutsu he would copy and develop would be insane.
    Then there's also his Rivalry with Naruto and the advice of the rest of the village. I also think there's a slim possibility that Jiraiya may even teach him a bit.
    Sasuke should be Base to Base much Stronger.
    And by extension, Any version of Sasuke after losing the Curse mark would be substantially stronger than in canon.

  • @Futuresaiyansurvivor
    @Futuresaiyansurvivor 8 месяцев назад +2

    Well Sasuke would pretty much be objectively weaker than his Orochimaru Training Self because Tsunade and Sakura said he was too strong to be that naturally powerful so he was on drugs to get stronger so physically Sasuke would be Stronger but I’m sure Sasuke would learn a Lot of New Jutsu with Kakashi’s Training and get to learn new stuff about his Sharingan.

    • @SRVaris
      @SRVaris 8 месяцев назад

      "because Tsunade and Sakura said he was too strong to be that naturally powerful so he was on drugs to get stronger"
      They theorize that that might be the case and its likely they were wrong as Sasuke is disgusted by Orochimaru pumping himself full of drugs so I doubt he would do that.

    • @HC-gm4fo
      @HC-gm4fo 8 месяцев назад

      @@SRVaris😂🤣 No they aren’t completely wrong. It was a single pill, a death ritual, and the matured curse mark. It raised he base like crazy

    • @HC-gm4fo
      @HC-gm4fo 8 месяцев назад

      @@SRVaris Didn’t they mention his height too or something

    • @SRVaris
      @SRVaris 8 месяцев назад

      @@HC-gm4fo " It was a single pill, a death ritual, and the matured curse mark."
      I don't consider that apart of the "Drugs" they were talking about as they were clearly talking about in the now and not 3 years earlier.
      "Didn’t they mention his height too or something"
      They might.

  • @yanleonel1609
    @yanleonel1609 5 месяцев назад

    a big problem is that sasuke would need to go in missions, so he wouldn't have as much time to training, the same goes to naruto

  • @Danan077
    @Danan077 8 месяцев назад +1

    New video idea what if kakashi trained sakura I mean you’ve already done his first two students so why not just complete the set