I run a Scotty Laketroller with a 4-lb ball mounted to an aluminum plank strapped to my inflatable kayak. Works well at Kokanee trolling speeds If I am not going super-deep. Some days I catch all the fish on the downrigger, other days the dropper gets all the action, even when I am trying to target the same depths and trying to run mostly similar setups. I shall never understand. After seeing this video, I think I will try shorter setbacks on the downrigger. I always figured that I had the opposite issue, not long enough setback and I figured the ball was scaring the fish. Sometimes it looks like I see fish (on the fish finder) come up or occasionally down to inspect the ball - I would think my flasher and lure would be out of the “sonar cone” with the longer setbacks I have been using. So maybe the ball is an attractor, not a deterrent, at least on some occasions.
Another advantage I find with the downrigger is you also can have it double as an anchor. I generally use drop shot for my set up too. But I’d bring along my downrigger so I have an anchor.
I’m new to following and watching your videos and I admire how knowledgeable you are with your fishing techniques. your teaching is so in-depth with all equipments and tackles you’re using..
You should look into a chamberlain downrigger clips. They have an adjustment for vertical and horizontal tension. I can load my rod all the way up in the clip and still have it release for tiny, sardine sized, kokanee.
I caught a good size “trout” at Wallowa last week. That was bright pink inside...now I’m wondering if it was a Kokanee...you should do an episode of good images of what Kokanee look like from young to old, or just the variety of what they look like.
Thanks for the helpful discussion on setback lengths. Two questions: 1) Is 35'+/- your approximate "go-to" starting length, then you adjust to mix it up if it's not working? 2) Do you like to use different lengths based on the depth you're targeting? For example, would you use a longer setback length if you're targeting fish at relatively shallow depths (20'+/-)?
Yes I recommend longer setback when fishing shallow, especially in powerboats. In a kayak 50' or more is sufficient but if you are trolling with a kicker motor then 80-100' is recommended.
Do you have a video of how down riggers are setup? Like how they work at hook up n what not? Sorry I sound like a new guy. I will be. I'm moving up to pnw specifically Vancouver from southern az. I got a old town auto pilot. Mainly bass fished so fishing up there is new to me. Been watching lots if your videos.
Great video been watching most all your videos love the left & right handle reels ,i need to get a left handed reel ? I changed my downrigger wire to braid
What rods would you recommend? My dad and I generally go for big Gerards mackinaw and pike so we have too heavy of rods to detect Kokanee bites. What is strong enough to handle a downrigger ball but light enough to detect a bite?
Get two or three shuttle hawks or similar. Then you won’t have to crank that ball up every time. Gets you back into the fish faster with less effort. Plus allows you to stack rods if you want.
@@spiltmilt I’ve never tried a weighted rig. Can you do a video on those sometime? What don’t you like about the shuttle hawk type rigs? I don’t have that particular brand but the pink ones I have are great, just clip in, put on the wire and send it down. As many as you have you can catch fish without pulling up your ball.
I run a Scotty Laketroller with a 4-lb ball mounted to an aluminum plank strapped to my inflatable kayak. Works well at Kokanee trolling speeds If I am not going super-deep. Some days I catch all the fish on the downrigger, other days the dropper gets all the action, even when I am trying to target the same depths and trying to run mostly similar setups. I shall never understand. After seeing this video, I think I will try shorter setbacks on the downrigger. I always figured that I had the opposite issue, not long enough setback and I figured the ball was scaring the fish. Sometimes it looks like I see fish (on the fish finder) come up or occasionally down to inspect the ball - I would think my flasher and lure would be out of the “sonar cone” with the longer setbacks I have been using. So maybe the ball is an attractor, not a deterrent, at least on some occasions.
Another advantage I find with the downrigger is you also can have it double as an anchor. I generally use drop shot for my set up too. But I’d bring along my downrigger so I have an anchor.
I’m new to following and watching your videos and I admire how knowledgeable you are with your fishing techniques. your teaching is so in-depth with all equipments and tackles you’re using..
Thanks!
You bet!👍
Great info on the set back I’m going to try shortening up from my normal 35’ and see what happens!
Yes its something I think most anglers don't play around with much but clearly makes a difference.
I watch all your videos and have learned a lot. It would be nice if you would mention the lakes you are fishing at
You should look into a chamberlain downrigger clips. They have an adjustment for vertical and horizontal tension. I can load my rod all the way up in the clip and still have it release for tiny, sardine sized, kokanee.
I’ve heard good things about them
notice you upgraded to a helix 7. So did I and I love it!
Thank you for the entertaining lessons.
Great stuff - nice breakdown of what’s used
I caught a good size “trout” at Wallowa last week. That was bright pink inside...now I’m wondering if it was a Kokanee...you should do an episode of good images of what Kokanee look like from young to old, or just the variety of what they look like.
Love the vids, really appreciate all the knowledge
Tyler rocks. He knows how to teach in a fun way.
Great catches. I got lake troller on my with 4lb ball.
Great video! I've learned a lot from your videos! Thanks!
Thanks for the helpful discussion on setback lengths. Two questions: 1) Is 35'+/- your approximate "go-to" starting length, then you adjust to mix it up if it's not working? 2) Do you like to use different lengths based on the depth you're targeting? For example, would you use a longer setback length if you're targeting fish at relatively shallow depths (20'+/-)?
Yes I recommend longer setback when fishing shallow, especially in powerboats. In a kayak 50' or more is sufficient but if you are trolling with a kicker motor then 80-100' is recommended.
@@spiltmilt Great, thanks!
Do you have a video of how down riggers are setup? Like how they work at hook up n what not?
Sorry I sound like a new guy. I will be. I'm moving up to pnw specifically Vancouver from southern az. I got a old town auto pilot. Mainly bass fished so fishing up there is new to me. Been watching lots if your videos.
Great video been watching most all your videos love the left & right handle reels ,i need to get a left handed reel ?
I changed my downrigger wire to braid
How often does your fishing line get tangled with downrigger line
Pretty rare
How are you tying the braid to your connection with the downrigger weight?
I just use a San Diego Jam knot
Whats your take on the torpedo divers that slide on the line after fish is hooked rigged on line to act as a down rigger?
I don't see a difference between those and a cannonball weight.
@@spiltmilt ok great thanks for your input. Great videos again.
How long do you recommend the leader is that connects the line clip and outrigger weight
?
I like 2-3'
Good day! are those pink rods? I am looking for good quality pink rods for my wife. its silly, but it makes her happy. what rods are these? thank you!
They are red. www.santiamfishingproducts.com/product-page/7-6-4-10lb-kokanee-glass-ultralight-2pc
When you replace the downrigger cable with 150lb braid what brand do you recommend?
I just use Tuff-line
@@spiltmilt ...why a 150lb braid when you are just deploying 4-6lb weight?
Awesome! 😀
Do you stop Kokanee fishing during their spawn? If so when and for how long?
What rods would you recommend? My dad and I generally go for big Gerards mackinaw and pike so we have too heavy of rods to detect Kokanee bites. What is strong enough to handle a downrigger ball but light enough to detect a bite?
R u running this on a downrigger or with inline weight?
A friend gave me 2 downriggers , what kind of braid and size r u using
Tuff line 100 lb
Thanks for all the info. Are you just trolling hoochies?
Micro hoochies and micro shrimps
What specific type of braid do you recommend using to replace the downrigger cable?
I use Tuf-line because its the cheapest
@@spiltmilt Thank you
Get two or three shuttle hawks or similar. Then you won’t have to crank that ball up every time. Gets you back into the fish faster with less effort. Plus allows you to stack rods if you want.
I don't like shuttle hawks. I prefer weighted stacker rigs.
@@spiltmilt I’ve never tried a weighted rig. Can you do a video on those sometime? What don’t you like about the shuttle hawk type rigs? I don’t have that particular brand but the pink ones I have are great, just clip in, put on the wire and send it down. As many as you have you can catch fish without pulling up your ball.
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@@birdsndogs1 thanks.
What rods are you using???
www.santiamfishingproducts.com/product-page/7-6-4-10lb-kokanee-glass-ultralight-2pc
I am going to guess that my salty gets a downrigger sometime in the next year. :P
This looks like eastern wa. I’m from Spokane, is this close to me? Btw, me and my husband love your videos.
Its about 3 hours from Spokane
What do you mean "dropper"
In line sliding weight
you have a coupon code on those products shown by any chance?
No I don't
Damn rainbows always trying to get on camera.