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The Ethereal Monsters Have Been In Dawn of Fire This Whole Time?! An old MSM Theory
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- Опубликовано: 16 июл 2020
- The theory video is finally here! Rock On Riff and I have been working on this theory for about a month now and we’re so excited to share it with you all! Stay tuned for part 2 of this theory to come out on his channel. I’ll see y’all tomorrow!
The Ethereal Monsters Have Been In Dawn of Fire This Whole Time?! An MSM Theory /w @FaunaRasmussen
Links:
Prismatic Monsters: mysingingmonst...
Rock On Riff’s Channel: / @faunarasmussen
To be honest the only reason this video is still up is because it took a lot of time and effort to make, I’m aware it’s probably completely wrong.
Also now Riff has stopped making msm videos and has moved on to other projects that he wants to make. After watching him make these behind the scenes and helping him out with them as well, it would really mean a lot if you guys would watch his last two songs and show him some support. With all that being said I’d like to thank you all for the support on this video. Even though it’s a really bad video I still worked really hard on it and it brought a lot of people to the channel. I know you hear creators say this all the time but i would really mean a lot if everyone could check out my new content instead as a I put a whole lot more effort into it and I’m really proud of it. If you read this whole thing thanks :)
Oh and also one more thing I’d like to mention is the “big project” that was mentioned in this video and before it in community posts was cancelled :(
We had a ton of msm creators involved (big and small), but with Riff the head of the project quitting making msm content we unfortunately had to cancel the project. It was called “My Monster Musical” and I was in charge of the music. I am, however, slowly uploading the music to my channel as I finalize it. So if you’re interested in that feel free to check it out.
You should read the bios maybe it will help you more
Bro the dips are the smallest there smaller than furcorn
“Stay tuned for part two” *Three months later*
The smallest monster is baby furcorn
You know riff made a "goodbye" vid right?
So, prismatic monsters are normal monsters undergoing the process of turning into ethereals.
That's the theory. Monster handler Matt later confirmed Ethereal Island is in fact connected to the main islands through a worm hole.
@@Cashcorn A Worm hole?
Yes
@@Cashcorn That’s probably the Prism Gate!
That’s our theory
Everybody gangsta till msm has lore
It really doesn’t. It’s not that deep lol. I would delete this video if it didn’t take a month to make.
@@Cashcorn The lore ends when rare wubbox defeated and the islands are done sleeping
Eww
@@puntielpatricia what rare wubbox is bad? He just says error messages
@@TeeV479 The monsters want out
''quarstier was to thick , we needed to expand the portal.''
I’m dying
When you said you saw a leak Do you mean the unused decoration of the island decorations from dof that’s stacked. It wasn’t a leak.anyways nice theory !!!
Thanks!
Prismatic Dandidoo may even fall into this category, having it's ethreal counterpart being Nebulob. Both of which have floating bits or goo inside capsuls, orange prismatic has a similar tint of green on the "hair fluff" and "tail fluff" as Nebulobs glass head
Red prismatic Cybop and Dragong are both counterparts to eachother (main island is 3 and 5), both have red and yellow as the main colors, but also have that sae mouth type
Blue Prismatic maw and boodoo are both counterparts (main islands are 2 and 4), both are mainly blue, and while boodoo has more marraccas and bells on it's mask, blue prismatic maw has that singlar bell on the top of the cloak like appearence
Aracule and blue prismatic pango are both counterparts (main islands are 2 and 3), both are mainly blue, and are mechanical beings (for the most part)
Oh cool! I didn’t even notice these!
When I used the link to rock on riff, he didn’t have the second parts
Yeah
What if Magical Islands were Ethereal Island in different Timelines? I mean, they DO have portals...
And they are in a pocket dimension
The magical islands were literally confirmed to be the outer islands
They literally said that at the beginning of the video 💀💀💀💀
@@cezory they're the outer islands, not in the pocket dimension
Didn’t the pocket dimension portal explode on the outer islands?
The Sanctum Magicals probably arrived on the outer islands then met naturals. The Magicals are probably descendants of Ethereals too so that’s why we don’t see them in DOF
Hol up hol up
Get ready to read! Well not much.
You know how Prismatic Tweedle is like Reebro and Prismatic Potbelly is like Ghazt? Take a look at this!
Tweedle like Reebro: Both on Air Island Plus Tweedle beinga air elemental
Potbelly like Ghazt: Both on Plant Island Plus Potbelly being a plant elemental
:o:o:o:o:o:o
yeah.... that's seems kind of mysterious....
@@kinyacat5919 mhm I agree it does
0O0
and blue prizmatic furcorn is like wisp and think about this
ghazt is like pot bely
yellow(i think) mamot is like grumpire with the horns
so plasma is plant and cold is shadow
and plasma and shadow makes wisp mith confirmed
Each ethereal element is linked to a natural one like:
Plant - Plasma
Cold - Shadow
Air - Mech
Water - Crystal
Earth - Poison
The deal with the outer islands and magical islands is that the magical islands are where the outer islands used to be, the one that is supposedly space island is just where space island used to be before it blipped out of existence
Late, but the monster handlers specifically stated that swirls don't necessarily correlate to the psychic element in the game. Also the outer islands aren't the same as the magical islands. The magical islands simply replaced them once the outer islands were lost.
replaced by prism gate
3:55 to save my progress i have to sleep
Uh. You know you don’t need to comment your timestamp. Just go to history or write it down on paper. But, you do you.
@@touchingbark6616 i am gonna delete this anyway
but i forgot about think possibly
I guess ill keep it
My problem with this theory is that the prismatics are not anatomically correct to ethereals. The elements of prismatic monsters are also the same as their original counterparts. Also, the magical islands are replacements, not the actual outer islands
edit: Fire oasis is also not a replacement island, it was designed by the monsters to allow more fire monsters to live on the surface of the monster world
Evolution
late to commenting here but
if you notice, the mirror islands have the ethereal's features, like mirror plant island has ghazt orbs, mirror water island has jeeode crystals, mirror earth island has green mist (humbug), mirror cold island has black mist (grumpyre) then air island has some stuff that look like reebro's brain
(edit) ghazt's orbs looks like it has some sort of island in it
I’m not sure what it means though it is interesting. Perhaps something to do with the prism gate/pocket dimension?
furcorn has the immense small
There was two times two where I predicted light element with my moonlight island on the composer island on my dad's phone and then when I was showing my sister my impressions of my fan-made monsters and I said elements light and just light That's when I completely predicted it actually I predicted it technically twice
Best MSM theory video I've ever seen.
You might be the first person to think that. I didn’t know there were others besides MPG’s
@@Cashcorn Yeah it's a pretty good video. I sent that comment before I saw the pinned one tho.
Thanks I spent a long time making it
Fercorn is the first monster ever made even be for mms came out that's probly why they always make fercorn special
MEH BOI LEARN TO SPELL!
What about thunpies
I’ve never even thought of this that’s so smart!!!
Eh... I already disagree with myself for most things but I think some of it is still right. I’m glad you like the video it took a month to put together!
@@Cashcorn you’re welcome I was wondering why the magical islands are different from the outer islands they were based off of but I think this makes sense!
Furcorn:IM DA SMALLEST MONSTER :D
Dipsters:what about us were smaller
Actually, Clavi gnat is canonically the smallest
I'm going to check
@@skelebones9436 no the vine counts to
Dipsters are like 4 inches
I like how he ignores the fact that blue prismatic tweedle is supposed to be a crab thing
It is?
@@Cashcorn Yeah I think so because crabs have eyes like that and the armor on it’s head looks like a crab.
I think they survived the blast but fell down a wormhole very similar to the one in the magical sanctum trailer which caused their physical form to look like that
Psychic: space
Faerie: cloud
Bone: cave
Light: party
I know that now lol
@@Cashcorn oh jeez! Didn’t realize this was such an old video
when he showed thumpies (the game) i just realized it has a song named ethereal
Wo
added lore the prism gate is a gate between dimensions so the monster start deforming in the prisms
Btw that also reforms there brains so like dandidoo it had no brain but I grows one
this theory makes a lot of sense! it's the same with prismatic noggin. yellow prismatic noggin seems to replicate a beehive. Noggin, the face of earth island. humbug is the ethereal of earth island. and humbug seems to be very bee like.
My own theory: when some prismatics went through transformation, there were various gene errors and it caused the ethererials, similar to the prism gate getting so big it sucked up islands, and ethererial island was encountering gene errors, as it was a collosal, as you know
I thought you were Creeptanium. I realize you're not.
I'll subscribe, and watch more of your videos.
Thanks :)
But how do you explain mammoth to grumpyre, noggin to humbug, and toe jammer to jeeode
Oh yeah the theory does kinda fall flat there
they exist in dawn of fire, just back then there was no easy way to access the pocket dimension that they exist in
OMG WITH PRISMATIC BOWGART THIS THEORY SEEMS EVEN MORE TRUE BLUE PRISMATIC BOWGART = ARACKULELE?
3 years later but ok
- Fire Oasis was built by the monsters
- Ethereals didn’t leave the Pocket Dimension during the Dawn of Fire era
- The Outer Islands didn’t turn into the Magical Islands they mysteriously disappeared and the Magical Islands only took their places
*did you read the pinned comment*
Epic Quibble:"Am I a Joke to you?"
The red Prismatic Quibble is the same as Epic Quibble, 'cuz it got solid
and survived
Yeah that one is weird but also a very cool monster
i can definetely see primsatic stog becoming nebulob
Who knew a game about little monsters singing would have so much lore
It doesn’t
not much really compare two bendy and the ink machine
6:49 so that's why you collect the purple shard things instead of coins on ethereal island
i think when the monsters go in the portal the ethereals capture them and the one that looks most like the captured monster goes back out
If your logic of smallest to biggest was right why wouldn’t potbelly go after furcorn, its the smallest 1 element
Idk read the pinned comment
Is this guy saying the pocket dimension of ethereal island is the prism gate? That means there could be 3 element ethereals!
Red Prismatic Dandidoo has the exact same number of visible eyes as Rare Nebulob.
That means she is actually Rare Nebulob!
Wrong, red prism dandidoo has 9 while rare nebulob has 8, or maybe i could be wrong, check again
Just one thing about this theory, what about the triples, quads and especially quints?
Omg read the pinned comment
simple:The fire stuff event were ended already and THEN its now the magical and ethereals time
Humbug and Yellow Noggin
Oh, I love "honey".
Fair point
I get the shrubb part because humbug is from earth island and noggin is earth elemental, with potbelly like being ghazt, they are saying if u breed noggin and potbelly it makes shrubb. On ethereal if u breed ghazt (represents potbelly) and humbug (represents noggin cuz earth) u get the jellyfish guy. Which in the prismatic shrubb looks similar too, get it?? Ur welcome
1:36 NO JOKE
nobody :
*this dude* : what if I told y *BEFORE WE GET STARTED*
I have a name :)
Primistic quibble is epic quibble
Accept light island
*Exept
I think
really a shame that the actual etherials aren't in DoF, i could really see them working there, not sure if the lore contradicts it however and how much it does
Yeah it would be great to see and hear them in their baby forms.
I personally think that Ethereals would be in their own Continent-style island “Pocket Dimension”
Everyone gangsta until quarrister falls in
That's not psychic symbol. It's the colossal's signature.
Well duh it wasn’t revealed up until recently
mega bruh
fire oasis was built by the monsters way after the dawn of fire, so there is no way that fire oasis is party island. but light island is weird since it suddenly got an aurora and it suddenly went into another plane of existance. so it is quite weird for light island to be party island.
The fire oasis trailer was just a little thingy for laber day so fire oasis is probably natural
Cool theory, but you're telling me Furcorn turns into Whisp?
Enfim a hipocrisia falei pq tive vontade e qm questionar q se dane tlgd?
Actully wouldn’t glowbies be earthreals tho cause they came from the prism gate first
Omg the earth island song sounds so weird without the epic wubbox
The party island is in the sea, and has been there since the downfall of Dawn of Fire
@@WackyInstruments read the pinned comment
“What if I told you this was prismatic tweedle” *Vsauce music plays*
Cool theory!
One big misconception you make is that the Magical Islands are the outer islands, but this isn't the case. BBB have stated multiple times that they just exist where the outer islands USED to be. So Psychic Island isn't Space Island, it's just located where Space Island used to be. This explains why they look so much different, they are literally different islands.
This theory has potential, but I think you're focusing on the wrong aspects, just scrap the whole connection with Ethereals because there wasn't any evidence connecting them with the Prism Gate, or Prisments, or anything, like that. The only things are that Ghazt can create portals, and the background of Ethereal Island sparkles. The Magicals have a closer connection, and you touched on them, so why didn't you make the theory about those.
My theory, stemming from yours, is that because of the expanding Prism Gate, eventually it became so large that it sucked up the Outer Islands. This might have been a very big event, possibly splitting the Continent? I'm still skeptical. It would also have sucked up any monsters on those Islands, and because of their extended time in there (as there is no where for them to be placed), some might have mutated, past Prismatics, maybe becoming "Magical", and I can't help but notice a lack of Air elementals on those Magical Islands. Now, if you count up how many Air hybrids there are (Taking into consideration those not yet released) you get 32 the same number of Magicals.
Some examples of this could possibly be
Tweedle to Floot Fly
Cybop to Fiddlement
Quibble to HippityHop
Dandidoo to Gob
Woolabee to Peckidna
PomPom to Rooba
Thumpies to either Cantorell, or Bonkers
Spunge to Poppette
Quarrister to Wimmzies
Yelmut to Blow't.
and maybe even Flum Ox to Theremind.
But this last part of my theory is very unlikely and has very little evidence supporting it.
you bring up some valid and some weird points cash.good video!
Maybe, I’m glad you watched my newer content first. I get a lot of backlash from this video.
@@Cashcorn Yeah,this is the first time i watch it through properly tbh cause the mic is pretty bad (so is mine lmao) so its a bit inaudible.the points you make make some sense.ethereal tying to prism gates is very much a valid theory
Everybody gangsta until i say those are the infinity stones from mavel 2:42
Fun fact: spunge has this little small character inside him when he enters the prism gate, ( u probably already saw that though.) theory, maybe this was spunge and he got deformed, and got eaten by him, meaning another real/normal spunge. wait they are both real-(clearly not digested), there is a possibility he didn’t even eat him and swallowed spunge whole though. or maybe it was there and spunge became clear colored but still kinda colored when he enters the prism gate, and then you see it there.
I thought this was a face, it’s the Prism Gate 6:17 also that was a handful of snacks to read.
Epic Spunge is similar
not even knowing what my singing monsters is very much my brain feels like its melting
*good*
Green prismatic noggin:humbug
But the prismatics come from the prism gates which the etherial have never seen. What about the other colours? Theres only around 15 etherials but there are a lot more prismatics. I dont think this is true but interesting speculation...
Good point.
True
The mirror islands are just the continent split up because on mirror plant island to the left of the island you can see the portal which we used to teleport the baby monsters to the outer islands in dof
Yeah and cold island has the wondermine etc
ITS ONLY A THEORY.
A GAME THEORY
red version of furcorn from prism Gate looks like epic ghazt
I read the comment and I feel like crying
In my opinion this idea doesn’t make sense because they’re becoming a different form. Also you’re comparing a ghost (ghazt) to a sea slug (prismatic potbelly).
This is my singing monsters not my singing logic
When Ghazt made that Portal in that original msm video, Ghazt just is the creator of the prism gate
You have to keep in mind this video came out a year before that official msm video
4:55
1. That doesn't look like a brain, it seems to hard
2. Prismatic Potbelly is a sea Slug, Ghazt is a plasma ghost monster
3.Jellbilly looks more like a jellyfish NOT the same thing
4. The Celestials have to be on it, and they are also affected
Not buying into it. To far-fetched. At least with prismatics becoming ethereals.
While it’s definitely a stretch. Of course the Prismatics wouldn’t look like the Ethereals after being in the Prism Gate for a few hours they’d only have slight mutations. This theory was more about predicting the purpose of the Magicals and the Prismatics, and predicting future events.
Ghast is a cat
True but the prismatics are just the beginning transformation so they would look really differant from now because they've been prismatics for thousands of years
It’s an exoskeleton, blue prismatic tweedle is a crab
@@Cashcorn ah the slightest mutation.. *having your skin turned into magma and lava*
ik this is 2 years after hope someone sees this but in my singing monsters there is hnt that says the magical islands share a speacial conncetion to the outer islands from dawn of fire
Yeah space is psychic bone is cave etc
I know why he chose humbug for noggin it's because toxic symbol on top of it and humbug's element is poison
Theory: the epic monsters in my singing monsters may just be deformed or even other things how did they get to be epic or are they the same creature. I know this theory is stupid I didn’t have ideas plz just do the theory
Magical monsters are descendants of Ethereals
Makes sense to me, big brain theory.
I don't know how potbelly and the ghast monster look the same
Stoowarb in the backround:
Is nobody going to talk about the “caught my I” joke
Do you have a timestamp? I hate listening to my voice and have no idea what you’re talking about.
@@Cashcorn 1:37
this is cool
To be honest I think that is just a huge co... OMG REEBRO AND TWEEDLE ARE RELATED TO RARE AN EPIC AND PRISMATIC CRAP
Rock On Riff deleted his video. Sad
Fire oasis is monster made so that is why it wasn't in dawn of fire
Ha ha
Monster made
I forgot all about this
How
Fire oasis isn’t an outer island it’s an artificial island built by the monsters
Actually! The prismatic like prismatic blue tweedle are based off of a monsters in normal my singing monsters creature/monster Reebroo
There just based off a ethereal
Welp how do they get out of portal? Cause now portal broken and most of monster stuck inside that portal
I always theorize that the prismatics were cruel unusual experiments on monsters a mad scientist did a bunch of experiments on monsters and tried to cover his actions by sending them into the prism gate and new monsters can only leave the prism Gates when another one comes in and they'll get swapped with a different monster
Yeah but the shugabushs wublins and werdos and g’joob, yawstritch and the rares and epics and the two islands you were talking about also I forgot celestials
The Magical islands aren't actually the Outer islands themselves. The Outer islands blipped out of existence for some unknown reason, and the Magical islands just so happen to be in the same location that each Outer island used to be. I forget where they said this, but I know this has been stated by the monster handlers or the game itself at some point. I feel like the connections between the designs of the Prismatics and the Ethereals is kind of a stretch. The Ghazt is basically a ghost cat and the Prismatic Potbelly is a sea slug in a jar, which (aside from being slimy I guess) have virtually nothing in common. I also feel like the glittery backgrounds thing is also a stretch. It could have some significance to it, but it could just as easily be because they just thought it looks good in the backgrounds for those islands. Space Island, Psychic Island, Ethereal Island, Mirror Cold Island, and the Prism Gate itself are all basically in space/have space as their background, so that glittery stuff is probably just stars. The glitter of Bone Island is probably just the crystals being shiny, and I don't even see any glittery stuff in Mirror Air, Water, or Earth.
Sorry if I sounded mean through any of that! I really appreciate that you're making a cool theory on MSM, it's just that most of your evidence is pretty shaky.
-also monsters are genderless please don't use gendered pronouns to refer to them thanks-
“The Outer islands blipped out of existence for some unknown reason, and the Magical islands just so happen to be in the same location that each Outer island used to be.”
Hmmm...
Well msm said this in the most recent msm live.
“We’re very skeptical that the Prism Gate could open wide enough to consume an island. But who knows!”
Also monster handler Matt said Ethereal Island was connected through an inter-dimensional wormhole
MSM keeps indirectly confirming some of the points in this theory and we’re really excited for the new evidence coming in.
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1: Actually, that’s a fair point. As far as I’m aware, we don’t actually know enough about the way Titans work or about what happened to the Outer islands to say that the Outer islands didn’t morph into the Magical island Titans. It’s also just as likely that they aren’t one in the same, but it is still possible.
2: While that might be possible in real life, it isn’t in MSM! The monster handlers have stated on a multitude of occasions that all monsters are genderless, so even if you somehow find that easier, you’re also just objectively wrong. Speaking of which, how is that easier anyways? You could (and should) just refer to them all with they/them or it since they’re all genderless, but now you have to arbitrarily use he/him for some and she/her for others. There are plenty of monsters that aren’t particularly masculine _or_ feminine, so what do you do about those? Especially when that applies to _most_ monsters in MSM? Not that it really matters since using gendered pronouns for MSM monsters is still just objectively wrong. You probably shouldn’t do things that are easier than the alternative if they’re just flat out wrong.
3: Uh, okay? I don’t see why you’re mentioning that since I didn’t mention anything about that either. Are you trying to say that said wormhole is the Prism Gate? I guess that’s possible. It could just a likely not be true, but it’s still possible I guess.
4: Well good for you! I don’t make MSM so I can’t say that your theory is wrong, so if you wanna believe it, go ahead! I just personally think it’s not very likely. If you think it is, then you do you.
-unless you is ignoring me and still referring to monsters with gendered pronouns even though that’s still completely and provably incorrect then don’t do you because that’s just wrong and also pretty rude-
Don't forget to mention that the gate is actually where the Glowbes used to live, and not some kind of wormhole.
I think the prismatic dandidoo is turning into jell billy.
The brain is in the hair like jell billy.
Wait then where do the Shugafam come from then? 🤔
Toodle is my favorite monster
big chun gus
The lost landscapes doesn’t have ethereals as far as I’m aware
That’s a fan game
Ok
Tbh i think the celestials just created the ethereals cuz i don't think the celestials created the protal cuz i don't think the celestials could f*** up THIS badly on whatever they were trying to do with tge portal(expesialy Prismatic Tiawa cuz i don't know the monsters handlers were thinking) so yeah due to already being celestials for the ethereals in my opinion this theory is kinda flawd
Has his part come out yet?
If there was a baby ghazt id love it to be a alive variant of him instead
I NEED a baby Ghazt!
i was just vibin to earth island
did i miss something
Beans!
I think that while this theory Has been proven to be false a long time ago, its possible prismatics (at least some of them) could reflect the connection between naturals and ethereals.