Why Timothee Chalamet Is Hollywood's Favourite Puppet (Video Essay)
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- Опубликовано: 22 фев 2023
- Timothee Chalamet has had a great career and has starred in some incredible films from Dune alongside Zendaya, to Little Women alongside Saoirse Ronan and directed by Greta Gerwig. To Call Me By Your Name directed by Luca Guadagnino as well as Bones and All. However not all his success should be attributed to him, as Hollywood definitely pushed him. And in this video essay I go over why Hollywood wanted to push Timothee Chalamet to success, and how he fits Hollywoods agenda and narrative around redefining masculinity in cinema.
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having young girls and boys seeing displays of human emotions, whether it’s depression, anxiety, loneliness, etc,
does everything but damage society. It’s good that little boys are being sensitized to movies that show other men being sensitive and not hiding their feelings. It doesn’t defeat “masculinity” one bit. In my opinion, as a girl, being in touch and understanding and allowing your feelings, emotions, or thoughts to prevail is what makes someone masculine.
Allowing emotions to control the way you act is masculine? Masculine has a scientific definition you know that right?
@@thejessegrant not necessarily allowing your emotions to fully take over, but letting them factor into decisions. And also the exact def. of masculinity is “qualities or attributes regarded as characteristic of men or boys.” so masculinity is mostly subjective. Just because your version of masculinity is different than others gives you no reason to shame other men.
think you might be a little too obsessed with this guy💀💀
The videos do well so I try and do one every few weeks and use him as a metaphor for a perspective or idea of cinema. Only reason l use him for the videos aha
@@thejessegrant I like your video. Obviously, defining masculinity is a touchy subject today so will get backlash, but I see it everywhere even more so in Music Industry. Someone deliberately killed Rock N Roll.
The fact that Hollywood likes what Timothee Chalamet is and does, in no way suggests that he's their puppet. You think Paul Atreides isn't masculine, doesn't do what's hard, doesn't keep going when he doesn't feel like it? King Henry is too sensitive and not strong enough? I believe that what you said indicates that you feel marginalized and misrepresented. And is "toxic masculinity" going to be the next buzzword like "woke" that people toss around without even be able to define it? Do I believe that it exists? I lived through the feminist movement of the 60's and have been discussing these issues with other women for decades. You can believe it, it exists. The pressures that are put on men to "perform" are enormous. Men were expected to be responsible for everything; women have stepped up and said, "We'll take half of that." We don't need to push men to the point that they turn to drugs and alcohol, they beat their families, or worse, kill them. Men don't have to rape women to get close to them or use rape to dominate. Rambo is not the ideal. He's the problem. Just ask the 1 in every 5 women who've been raped.
It can’t exist because putting words like “toxic” and “masculine” next to each other is a recipe for disaster. Saddens me people can’t break down the English language enough to realise this.
@@thejessegrant how though? It seems more like an issue of comprehension skills.
Toxic masculinity simply describes a subset of behaviors and attitudes associated with masculinity that are harmful. What it doesn’t imply is that masculinity as a whole is inherently bad or toxic.
Ppl can and do have the same types of discussions about toxic femininity but seem to not struggle half as much with the distinction between that and femininity as a whole.
Paul Atreides is in fact anti-hero according to the books:))) He develops into it. So, the whole thing about Dune is not about the masculine hero and messiah, right? It's deeper than that. It's about wrongs of politics, religion and messianism:))))) I guess Villeneuve is smart enough to show this regardless of WB's and HW's corporate politics.
Wow this was disappointing. Sounds like some MRA bs. Men were portrayed as being more one dimensional in the past. Now they have an emotional range and that's supposed to be bad?
I see your point but they weren’t. There was a mix of the James deans with the john Wayne’s now men are becoming one sided because there’s less and less stoic characters
Tbh this was a pretty surface level analysis and not everything you said was actually very accurate.
For one, Timothee Chalamet has been a lead in one major block buster ,Dune, and he portrays most of the qualities you are looking for in that film while also remaining pretty accurate to the source material. Same goes for king Henry in regards to portraying those qualities.
Secondly, the films he’s been in and directors he’s worked with aren’t wildly out of left field when compared to works of the past both in regards to tone and content . If you had spent this video complaining about Leonardo DiCaprio’s roles in basketball diaries, Romeo and Juliet, and titanic you might realize how shallow your argument sounds. You kinda touched on that point midway through the video but then rushed right past it.
Also action heroes are still popular and there wasn’t as massive a dry spell leading up to top gun maverick as you make it seem. We already had John Wick, the entire fast and furious franchise the creed films, James Bond and Tom Cruises whole career. Marvel isn’t the only action franchise out there.
That’s what I’m saying. There’s no new faces of stoicism. Bond, Cruise movies. They are all over 50 years old
@@thejessegrant If executives are still making stereotypically masculine films without backing entirely new properties that seems more like an issue of Hollywood being risk averse and not an out right rejection of masculinity.
Your definition of toxic masculinity is completely wrong.
Telling anyone to not express their emotions increases risk of CVD, depression and suicide. Everyone has emotions, and if anyone bottles them up then it is harmful.
Yes there are some situations that you should just suck it up and move on, but this is not exclusive to men.
Toxic masculinity is the ideas and roles that society has decided to be masculine, but in reality harms men.
There are so many different men out there, so there are various versions of what is masculine. I think each man out there has to determine what is masculine to them. That way it will be less one-dimensional. Plus we are all multifaceted and just because an exterior is stoic or not, does not mean the interior is the same. So I guess it is good to discuss masculinity, to let all people define it in their own way and also find a way that isn't toxic for that particular individual. So what if you look like the stereotype man if you don't feel that way? Or the reverse, you are your own version of it. All men are needed. I think it is good that you higlight it. As for toxicity, one can look like a stereotype, act like it (I stil mean non-toxicly or violently), yet not feel like it. Or just be the non-violent, non-toxic and yet very masculine man. There are all types of men. And some don't measure their masculinity as in comparison to femininity. What if you are an "ideal man" (a image of the stoic man) and you are into other ideal men? Like we have so msny stereotypes that it is hard to accept those that check all boxes but one. Like it is hard for people to accept a more feminine man being straight or a more masculine man being gay, in fear of that one single individual being a reoresentation for all and therefore you are the same because you feel the same except for that one box. I think a lot of homophobia flares out because of this. It is ok to not check any boxes or check all boxes, or even all but one. So it is good that you highlight this discussion. Stoic nen are needed. But what I think right niw is that Hollywood is doing the same thing in reverse. Like they do what they always have done, but they change the stereotype. Which is still stereotyping! So we end up accepting at first, then harming again. Men (and women, and non-binary) can't jump through hoops to please an ideal that isn't flawed. Because we as people are flawed. And changing a stereotype by indoctrinating and adopting another is still the same, even if the stereotype is reverse. I think the only way around this is to not stereotype at all. But how do you categorize a movie, book or character without a categorization? It would be easier if normal people reviewed things and if nirmal people rated things. That way we can see what is needed, liked, wanted, helped, sucked, worked or had potential, basically. I dunno if anything made sense. But loved your take on this! Keep up the good work. I think your opinion is valid and I think it is good that you mention it unbiasedly, like "this is needed but then this" etc. Because we need to open up our society to caring about men and their opinions. And I am saying this as a feminist, as an individual, but also as someone who cares about men's mental health and state of mind. All people should be welcome to exist, they should be welcome to share their opinion, and they should be welcome parts of society, regardless if they contribute to it or not. Because by simply exusting, you kinda are. However, all of this as long as you don't hurt or hate on others. That is the toxic part we need to leave behind, the part that: hates, hurts and doesn't want us to grow as induviduals and as a group. We need to be allowed to exist as we are and not as others want us to be. That does not mean that I don't like Timmy Chal, he is a great actor, probably one of my favourites. He has great depth and he shows a different type of man. But I am also aware that only men like him or men who feel like him can achieve his version of man. Others should nit, they should find someone like themselves or how they truly feel they are and strive to perfect their version of themselves through that role model. And the role model can be you, yourself or others. But not all men can be a Chalamet. I think it is healthy that you point that out. Many need to hear that. And in doing so, you show your own feelings, thoughts, take on being a man. Which is healthy and valid too. Great job! Love the video! You are a role model too! Keep up the good work, this was a really great one! I enjoy your video essays, they truly inspire folk!
Thanks for the kind words and great analysis yourself!
Right. My dad had one friend who was a bit less than average height and very lean. However, he'd been th most masculine men I've ever encountered LOL. Also, his masculinity had not been toxic at all, since that guy had brains:))))
Honestly, you're simple so wrong here. He literally plays a King who has all of those qualities you said make up the characters that were shown to us as "Masculine" in the 70's, your opinions here are not justified at all, it almost feels like you haven't seen any of his movies.
I would say Timotee's characters show us that not the muscles represent man bur the inner power.
What is this 😂😂😂
A video. You’re welcome to make your own
We can see you have a fav actor I think we can relate on this subject ❤
My favourite actor is Johnny Depp, followed by Christian Bale. Chalamet videos perform better so I make them more often and try to use him as a symbol to discuss a certain topic in cinema, so the audience enjoys it more. He’s a great actor but not my favourite ahaha
I think eastern entertainment will fill this demand. For example Levi from Attack on Titan.
Agreed! There are some great films coming out of Eastern Europe, and Asia for sure
@@thejessegrant I do feel that Hollywood is going in the route of auto industry of Detroit. When every country trying to produce the best art, Hollywood is trying to follow the money.
Comic book industry has been crushed by manga. Maybe next is Hollywood.
@@ashs5612 He's written for Tumblr girls for simp for not as an interesting character
Your opinion says alot about the way you were raised. Men like that are insufferable because they don't feel anything. They've had it shamed out of them. I've raised 2 sons to not be ashamed of their emotions or anything they don't understand. They're great people that are successful. We've seen enough pissing contests to know these types of men are not what's attractive and I've got the scars to prove it.
For certain groups of people, it's always been easier or they go out into world naive.
Why do we have to lump men into categories? Why can’t we let every man just be himself without saying he is either “soft” or “manly” …..
I’m a fan of Timothee but using him as some sort of poster child for the modern state of men is just very odd to me. There are plenty of famous male actors out there, all types.
The fact you say where have all “6 foot , stoic manly” actors gone implies that you yourself value that type of man but you fail to acknowledge that type of man is exactly what has been the “ideal” for decades now and how that must have made the under 6 foot, skinny, awkward guys feel?
Timothee being so famous and so adored by men and women alike is a breath of fresh air that actually men who are skinny and awkward and open with their feelings are worth being celebrated.
It’s not about what’s right or wrong and how to be a man it’s about celebrating all types of men and allowing each one to thrive without pitting them against one another.
This was a well made video and I respect the production value but I really think we should stop trying to fight all these ideas of what a “true” man should be. All men are “true men” , skinny, bigger, stronger, weaker, more open, less open etc.
Yep, I always viewed him as the Harry Styles or Kpop of Film Industry. I remember when actresses were thirsting after Justin Beiber when he was a Teen looking like a Lesbian and I often though yikes, what is going on with women being attracted to feminine men. No wonder non-binary is such a social contagion among girls. They may be sexually repressing attraction to traditional masculine men because they are being taught to fear and hate them.
I thought this was actually going to say something but it actually just someone reaffirmed patriarchal standards
If the so called stoic emotionless men feel offended by these femboys like a bunch of sissies I don't think that makes them stoic or emotionless.
Just because characters show emotions instead of being everyday irl npcs, it won't be an interesting story now would it. I don't wth you mean by the chlamydet's charcters complaining and moaning but we still have overtly characters (who seem to get turned into totally no homo sigma edits) who are well-written and emotional.
I think that female gaze thing plays a role here too seen how it's mostly women asking for characters like this than men.
beautiful analysis Jesse.
Appreciate it!