wow guys you are so cool! i admire you for beating the game with the Odrysian faction and proving your superiority on that boring noob, you are our true heroes!
I was one of the 1st to win the campaign as them, well going by the achievements anyway because I had it on a super low %. That was on Normal difficulty though.
I find Eastern Rome to be harder so long as you can bring yourself to manually fight all the rebellion battles in the Western Rome start. Once the Huns and the Sassanids come knocking you are screwed.
I won my first campaing with WRE, in very hard, with littlr struggle. Raze everyfucking settlement except for a small core of provinces. I only stayed with Italy, Cisalpine Gaul, Sicily, Corsica and Africa. That meant my only real worry was 1) fight the rebellions and. 2) defend the northern borders in the Alpes. Do that, while using the funds of the demolished buildinds (what you have to do before razing, ofc) to build the necessary buildings for a strong economy and military, and the rest is easy.
If you ask me when I was playing it for the first time i would've agreed with you, but now my WRE armies are basically sitting on the bench just waiting for the game to end.
I played marcomanni. Up to 2 early defeats. 3rd attempt i conquered pretty much everything up to rome to the west. This was on legendary. The biggest factor was using diplomacy. I literally overtaxed and raised big armies just to survive from 5 factions all at once. Befriended one of them (technically there was no pacts or alliances but they liked me and helped me in battles from time to time) and destroyed 3 of them. The last one is very far to the east
CA PLEASE MAKE AN ALEXANDER DLC CAMPAIGN! You have Hannibal. You have Caesar. You have Octavian and Aurelian. There is only one person missing. ALEXANDER. I can imagine a campaign where the player starts off playing as Alexander. Once establishing an empire there would be a cut-scene showing Alexanders death and the player would then have to choose to play as one of 5 successors (Lysimachus, Antigonus, Seuleukos, Ptolemy and Cassander). At that point the player would have to reconquer vast lands, fight large Hellenistic battles with hybrid armies, and try to establish their dominance as Alexanders successor! This would make it into a unique campaign. With this DLC I would at least expect there to be two of Alexanders most epic battles as historical battles: The Battle of Gaugamela and the Battle of the Hydaspes River. I would also expect an addition of a Hindu based faction or access to mercenary Hindu units for factions such as Bactria and Parthia. CA please make this a reality!
I used to create entire fleets of the Carthaginian fire pot ships and decimate Romans trying to invade crossing the Mediterranean. It was my only hope for survival.
Hey, in my defense I think we can all agree that this thrones of Brittania is just a fill-in game using the same old Atila engine while they work on their new three kingdoms game. Nothing wrong with that, but they should have made it a DLC (which it is, seems as it uses the same engine) instead of making it a stand-alone game.
Raymond Benjamins Warscape is just the graphics rendering engine which has been the same since empire, gameplay isn't affected by it, that's the TW3 Engine and its predecessor was the TW2 engine. Its not the same, i should correct myself however, and say 'the same rendition of the engine'. As it is clearly evident that while empire total war and Atila total war were not made on the same engine. Where as Atila total war and thrones of Britannia are. Get my point?
I’ve been trying Media Atropatene using Nordo’s faction unlocker and I’ve gotta say, it’s a struggle simply because of the faction trait where everyone around you hates you (even Armenia, which starts off as your only “friend”), and the moment you get someone to like you, another faction (Bactria, Parthia, Galatia, Colchis, etc.) destroys them. The whole region is such a clusterfuck
I tried the same faction as well. With the same results of course! Then, I tried Curys the Great mod campaign and played as Persia. I had one war each turn. At some point I had to defeat more than 10 nations.Most of them were vassals of the Seleucid Empire and was hitting me at the same time! I had at least 4 towns besieged by numerous, strong armies. When I looked at the map, the whole surrounded area was red(hostile and at war with me). I decided to recruit mercenaries, for instant army and attack their cities. As a result I had minus economy, plus their garissons were really tough. Maybe it sounds challenging for someone but for me it was just break of my balls. So, after a few tries with different factions I uninstalled. Maybe I am a noob, I don't know, but for sure it wasn't fun.
Same! Everyone is complaining about that theyre just trying to get more money. Idk tbh lol, I play Rome II everyday so I dont mind getting new factions :D I hope more DLC's will follow! :)
True that Rome 2 is doing better, but the people behind the Ancient Empires mod and Medieval 1212 mod haven’t released a campaign yet, when they Attila will get pretty bust pretty quick...probably, I can say, obviously, but I’m just guessing that these mods will, to a massive degree, reinvigorate the game and the community, plus Attila “feels” like a m older Total War game, it’s still a lot like Rome but has stuff from the older better games like Shogun 2.
Atilla was the only total war game i couldn't get into, not sure if that's because of the game play itself or because none of the factions interest me to play.
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Jay M clearly I was making a statement 90% being used as it is seen as the majority. As there was 60% dlc factions. But I'm not gonna be nice to a company that pumps out bad dlc. Instead of actually using a faction and fleshing out their roster.
Damn odrysians... I start that campaign like more than 10 times before to get anything right... Oh!! In very hard not legendary, i'll get a heart attack if i do that!!!
Massagetae is my favorite faction : it's easy to expand in south and east ; despite your poor economy, you can build a great army of mounted archers (the basic unit, low cost) ; For sieges, just wait and defeat all armies who try breakthrough. In fact its so funny to play !
Carthage are actually still super easy, what about getae and ardieiei? They have bad units, no economy and are surrounded by op factions and you have Balkan culture who everyone hates
Yes but ships can only get you so far, maybe a fifth of the towns in the game are ports, what happens when an army marches on your towns and all you have to defend with is bad units
I've played over 2000 hours on Rome 2. I bought this game twice, it's my favorite. Winning with mounted units on legendary was very hard. The one that jumps out to me as a beast to win was Carthage on legendary. I had to get used to not leaning on one type of unit for the win. Playing this game for years I must say the updates and expansion packs added were outstanding, the entire game is more than just a game and more like a destination, a way for me to command an entire nation. Making just one mistake on Carthage legendary would cost me the game, I can't tell you how many times I had to start over. Rome and nations in Spain would double team me, WOW.
Jean-François Bélanger Epirus is actually easy. All you have to do is spam pikes to outnumber spartan pikes and to deal with their elite units. Atheens are easy to deal with since they will lose every engagement vs your pikes. Even on legendary this campaign is easy because you can just max out your taxes and have 30 units defend your settlement and have no public order problems whatsoever. Plus they have elephants which are worth like 10 units or more.
I agree with a lot of those including the Barcids. Colchis and especially Aridaei are honourable mentions. Seleucids were for a time as well before updates.
Carthage is NOT hard at all. It's just that most people don't know how to play it. You gotta abandon your Spanish holdings and focus on consolidating power in Africa. Betray Libya and take all their settlements. This allows you full control of Carthago, which is among the best provinces in game (others being Britannia and Aegyptus). Afterwards, take all the African tribes and you're pretty much set for world domination. You'll probably lose all your non-African settlements, but that's ok, they are worthless early game anyways. If Rome or Syracuse declares war on you, then get half a stack of ballista ships (with a few fodder ships). With that navy, you can destroy any transport fleet they send at you.
Why is everyone saying epirus? They are literally one of the easiest, you have the best pikes in the game, best wardogs, some of the best cav, elephants as mercs anywhere on the map, the richest and easiest to keep happy towns in the game, you start with wine and horse breeders, your only rivals are athens and sparta and they are worse in every way compared to epirus it’s possible to take them both out on legendary by turn 7
Epirus is definitely tricky, but doable, for the average player. I found it was a tense but fun challenge on hard to overcome the other Greeks before Rome could finish off Carthage and attack me. Also, Epirus is one of the easiest starts? I disagree. There are plenty of easier starts in Rome 2 than Epirus. (Though, granted, I can't speak for Very Hard or Legendary campaigns.)
So you ever play as Tylis ? This is superhard start. Tougher then any fraction you have in your top 5. You are in begining at war with Macedon, superior enemy in every way. Noone likes you , and it is a matter of time when Sparta and Athens join to war against you. In their fotsteps come usualy Royal Scytians and Bitinians. Thouse fracction whould snowboling you to submition in no time.
I agree with you on the marcomanni, i am an experienced player and ive tried the marcomanni they are literally so hard in the beginning youre surrounded by rome and other strong factions
It was an unoptimazed bugfest, and it was promised to be a lot of thing, wich the game clearly did not deliver. The diplomacy, the AI, the battles, the balance.. Everything was quite bad tbh. Just watch Angry Joe's review on it. You gonna get it why it was such a let down. Luckily they patched it quite quicly, but on relase and after 1 or 2 month it was just a disgrace really.
Odrysian is one of my favorites to play as, yes slow start and not an ideal roster, and the Greeks are going to give you trouble. But once you get rolling its a fun ride.
The hardest Total War campaign has got to be the Western Roman Empire in Rome Total War: Barbarian Invasion (I would say WRE in Attila at launch was close but nowadays it's a lot easier and the older TW games were definitely harder if you had a poor economy/low public order).
Epirus (Greeks and Romans hate you and have you sandwiched), Selucia (all your satraps hate you) and Carthage (EVERYONE hates you and you are spread out over Africa and Spain) have to be up there, and I always found the Nomad tribes hard due to their lack of siege-worthy infantry.
The ardieiei are possibly the hardest campaign in the game. Weak economy, one of the weakest cavalries in the game, they get decent spears very late and their melee infantry are also terrible. Although they are considered more of a "naval" faction, their fleet is also terrible. Never seen a faction in more need of some help, its not very hard just to give them a little boost in unit variety. The odrysians are not really very hard, they have very good melee infantry, and played smartly, you can take down the rest of the thracian factions in a heartbeat and then you can contest the macedonians and the greeks, but once you take down macedonia, you should have the economy and manpower to stomp the greeks. C´mon guys, carthage is very easy, for some reason they are even harder to play in the hannibal campaign. I agree that massagetae and marcomanni are very hard. but not impossible.
Just getting in to this Total War game universe. I have to say its a bit of struggle for me. Still great fun! And none is more fun than Rome 2. Looking forward to future expansions, dlc and stuff for this titel.
Massalia , Syracuse, Lusitania and Pathia are a bit tricky early. Colchis , Epirus and Ardiaei are really hard because you have alot of diplomatic issues.
I would love to play however every time I try to launch it in Steam the Launcher doesn’t come up, and gives the error “Failed to initialize Steam! Are you running Steam?” It’s been like this for months and suggestions I’ve tried haven’t worked. Super frustrating that I upgraded my rig to handle this game but can’t even get into the game to begin with.
Vitor Galinari Romans would be one of them. The Romans can spawn countless armies in a few turns. Sometimes it's OP but, very fun when your facing them as Carthage or a Greek State.
Sparta has great fighters in the game, better and harder hoplites and pikes than other factions. Also not everyone hates you at the start coz you are under Macedon and Athens doesn't hate you at the start. Just build either 4 pikes or 4 hoplites turn 1 then go straight for Larissa turn 2 and then just build up what ever you deem necessary to finish off Epirus and just go on from there, either take on Rome coz they declare war turn 2 or 3 or just build 2 stacks and blitz Athens and Macedon. Once Athens and Macedon are out, everyone will start to love you again, provided you don't declare any wars other than on those 3 factions at the start. Good luck.
5. Bactria (probably a bit strange that i have put this in, but with no over faction you can get such a big empire in a short amount of time/the satrapys are very easy for good money/Parthians are the only good encounter, but you can defeat them quite fast if you want) 4. Arverni (You can do whatever you want - the other gallic tribes arent nearly as strong as you/good units over time) 3. Seleucids (just concentrate about economy and forget expansion first, then youll be dominating the east/at the late game definetly the strongest unit roster overall) 2. Rome (incredible performance at the start and its very easy to get money and army fast/overall very good balanced units over the time) 1. Egypt (does have best province with extra food and stuff at the start -> can get money faster than anyone else/very good units in every game period/seleucid ai is too stupid to attack ferquently and effective)
Britannia in TW Rome 1 was pretty hard. With weak units and no bowmen you have a tough time. I got them expanded until I ran into Rome and then the weaknesses became apparent.
Can confirm, Odrysian Kingdom is the only Campagin Start I've ever failed. And I failed it several times. (It was before the first major update, like late 2013 though, might be worth giving it a second go now)
Odrysian has access to some of the best tier-1 sword units, Thracian Warriors. They CHEW through Hoplites like crazy, even with low armour and melee defense they do insane damage to the low-damage Hoplites. Archers/Peltasts make mincemeat out of Pikes, so Macedon and the Greek factions should pose little difficulty.
I already won this, they are the hardest desert faction but they don’t compare to the hardness of some factions, the start is actually super easy Carthage and nova carthagos towns are just left undefended, the main challenge is taking Spain and France because your inf just can’t stand up to them
Can you rework some of the older faction unit rosters please? You guys did a very good job with the desert kingdoms and their unit variety is awesome. If some of the older factions had that, it would feel extremely nice and not like your playing to same faction over and over again.
Bro stop asking for unit variety, already the game is incredibly ahistorical with female generals, overpowered "black" factions, female units and barbarians having siege weapons.
In addition to these, I've had a hard time at harder difficulties with Colchis and Saba. Though I've always hated the Odrysian Kingdom more than anything
As someone who has completed nearly every campaign on legendary, odrysians are the hardest by far, marcomanni aren’t that hard because Octavian Just leaves his towns undefended and it’s easy to take them, you can then work up to a level 4 hall of champions and churn out units with almost 100 attack on recruitment
Vault Boy the AI usually get killed very early, at least i think, have you recently played? I started a campaign as Pontus, and Rome conquered all Italy, Carthage, and now are invading France. War Never Changes!
I think it's a shame that unlike Rome 1, in Rome 2, Rome is just a single faction. I miss the Julii, Brutii and Scipii split from Rome 1, and the goal of taking down the S.C.P.R and seizing Rome itself.
It's specifically for player I think, AI gets all sorts of cheats in this game, I remembered killing one full stack and next turn they spawn in another 2 of them lol, if it is controlled by player you certainly cannot do that
I consider Sparta to be the hardest because you start out in a tiny corner in Hellas with very little income and locked in by powerful neighbors such as Athens, Epirus and Knossus (and Macedon looming nearby). The good thing is that Athens is your defensive ally and will remain so as long as you don't declare war on them. But since Athens holds the capital city of your region this means you can't trade with any other faction so long as they control Athenai. This and the fact that you don't start off with much revenue means you will be severely short on cash and will thus have limited recruitment options. And that's not good when you consider how strong Epirus is on hard and the fact that your other neighbor Knossus (who live on the nearby island in your region) will most likely declare war on you within a few turns into the game and start sending wave after wave of hoplite militias at you. Plus even if you decide to take Athens out to expand your region, get more income and start trading, assuming you don't take too many losses taking Athenai (its not easy taking a walled capital early in the game without siege engines and the Athenians will likely have an army garrisoned there) you just end up making a powerful enemy out of Macedon who are Athen's overlords.
Did you not read my comment. If you attack Athens early in the game Macedon who they are client states of will attack you as they most likely will do. Which means besides already having power enemies like Epirus (and possibly Knossus preying on you) there is suddenly another bid kid on the block wanting to knock you down. Plus even if you take their city, there's no guarantee you will wipe Athens out in one go which means they could still have one large army and navy out there with now homeless and wanting payback. And yeah I'm aware Sparta has some of the strongest infantry in the game and that's a good thing when you are fighting on the defensive. But unfortunately they don't come cheap so you can't exactly recruit a lot of them early on to go out conquering while also having to defend your region from powerful neighbors.
I just took my marcomanni army I built the first few turns and fled to britain asfast as possible to conquer it, and came back with a vengeance later on.
I decided to play Massilia for my first shot at legendary. That did not go well. On the other hand, Macedon on legendary was quite easy, while at the same time I was playing the Getae on very hard and lost the first try a hundred turns in. Thus I am led to believe that Massilia and particularly the Getae are among the most difficult.
I want to play Rome 2 again but the problem is that the AI was really dumb when i played it the last time, i played Attila and the AI is a bit better but i didn't like the Time in history of that world, so i wonder, did they update the AI to become more challenging or not?
You call that "hard"? Play the Etruscans with the "Divide et Impera" Mod. THATS HARD! ^^ And yeah, in Vanilla they are not the easiest Faction too ^^ Btw: i wanna see the Etrsucans as official playable Faction. I would even pay for them XD But i wanna see them in a high Quality DLC only. That means: special Culture (italic), new Buildings (especially religious Buildings), more Units (roman-hellenic hybrid) and a own Soundset (atm they are talking like romans on the battlefield and use the barabrian soundset at Diplomacy, thats strange)
I got a faction unlocked mod for grand campaign and started as suebi first. Macromanni declared war on me and I thought I was in huge trouble. I guess I'm not but I am against boii.
Well... with masaesyli I was luck, I took phanzania in turn 4 and made a federation with Gaetuli after that, then I conquer Cyrene and made an agreement with the Nasamones of military acccess, then they declare war to libue, then all the carthage civs fall one by one XD
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#1 hardest start was Rome 2 on launch
LMAO, good comment
Ouch !
BAH GOD THAT MAN HAS A FAMILY! SOMEONE STOP THE MATCH!
swallow that CA
your mom said that to
I once started as the Odrysians.
Defeated on turn 7.
on easy?^^
Won a campain on legendary Witz the odrysians... It's my favourite faction 😀
use ambush stance = win
wow guys you are so cool! i admire you for beating the game with the Odrysian faction and proving your superiority on that boring noob, you are our true heroes!
I was one of the 1st to win the campaign as them, well going by the achievements anyway because I had it on a super low %. That was on Normal difficulty though.
Hardest total war campaign, Western Roman Empire at legendary difficulty during the release patch of total war Attila.
Order of Loremasters in Vortex Campaign is far harder than that
Nah the Sheer amount rebellion and decease notifications can kill you in real in life!
I find Eastern Rome to be harder so long as you can bring yourself to manually fight all the rebellion battles in the Western Rome start.
Once the Huns and the Sassanids come knocking you are screwed.
I won my first campaing with WRE, in very hard, with littlr struggle.
Raze everyfucking settlement except for a small core of provinces. I only stayed with Italy, Cisalpine Gaul, Sicily, Corsica and Africa. That meant my only real worry was 1) fight the rebellions and. 2) defend the northern borders in the Alpes.
Do that, while using the funds of the demolished buildinds (what you have to do before razing, ofc) to build the necessary buildings for a strong economy and military, and the rest is easy.
If you ask me when I was playing it for the first time i would've agreed with you, but now my WRE armies are basically sitting on the bench just waiting for the game to end.
I played marcomanni. Up to 2 early defeats. 3rd attempt i conquered pretty much everything up to rome to the west. This was on legendary. The biggest factor was using diplomacy. I literally overtaxed and raised big armies just to survive from 5 factions all at once. Befriended one of them (technically there was no pacts or alliances but they liked me and helped me in battles from time to time) and destroyed 3 of them. The last one is very far to the east
CA PLEASE MAKE AN ALEXANDER DLC CAMPAIGN! You have Hannibal. You have Caesar. You have Octavian and Aurelian. There is only one person missing. ALEXANDER.
I can imagine a campaign where the player starts off playing as Alexander. Once establishing an empire there would be a cut-scene showing Alexanders death and the player would then have to choose to play as one of 5 successors (Lysimachus, Antigonus, Seuleukos, Ptolemy and Cassander). At that point the player would have to reconquer vast lands, fight large Hellenistic battles with hybrid armies, and try to establish their dominance as Alexanders successor! This would make it into a unique campaign. With this DLC I would at least expect there to be two of Alexanders most epic battles as historical battles: The Battle of Gaugamela and the Battle of the Hydaspes River. I would also expect an addition of a Hindu based faction or access to mercenary Hindu units for factions such as Bactria and Parthia.
CA please make this a reality!
BBBBBBBBBBBB Man, this is a really good idea
It has been already done for the first RTW
reznicak i know, and that dlc was pretty good, but a brand new version would be amazing
Maybe its a liddle bit late but you can download the Dei Overhaul mod who has a submod i tjink its called Alexander who unlocks a Alexander campaign
macaroni does definitely sound the hardest
@Backstage Bum i hate you
Playing as Carthage and Rome declaring war on turn 1 is always fun.
I used to create entire fleets of the Carthaginian fire pot ships and decimate Romans trying to invade crossing the Mediterranean. It was my only hope for survival.
@@ralphierianda That actually sounds a lot better than me trying to fight land battles with them lol
The hardest start I had was in day 1 when the ships started gliding across the land during battles
5 easiest:
5. Iceni
4. Macedon
3. Bactria
2. Rome
1. Egypt
LegendofTotalWar beats all starts easily
he's invincible
He legendary
He is cheese and boring ... except for his cursing, I gues
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Did someone say This is Total War?
I heard the hardest start, is developing a 'new' historical title on the same old Atila engine
Not to mention porting a faction from one build of the game to a newer build, they need at least 6 months to do that.
Hey, in my defense I think we can all agree that this thrones of Brittania is just a fill-in game using the same old Atila engine while they work on their new three kingdoms game. Nothing wrong with that, but they should have made it a DLC (which it is, seems as it uses the same engine) instead of making it a stand-alone game.
ryang58 I hope you realise that all games since Empire use the same engine. So according to that logic, all games since then should have been DLC...
Raymon Benjamins you`re goddamn right
Raymond Benjamins Warscape is just the graphics rendering engine which has been the same since empire, gameplay isn't affected by it, that's the TW3 Engine and its predecessor was the TW2 engine.
Its not the same, i should correct myself however, and say 'the same rendition of the engine'. As it is clearly evident that while empire total war and Atila total war were not made on the same engine. Where as Atila total war and thrones of Britannia are. Get my point?
I’ve been trying Media Atropatene using Nordo’s faction unlocker and I’ve gotta say, it’s a struggle simply because of the faction trait where everyone around you hates you (even Armenia, which starts off as your only “friend”), and the moment you get someone to like you, another faction (Bactria, Parthia, Galatia, Colchis, etc.) destroys them. The whole region is such a clusterfuck
I tried the same faction as well. With the same results of course! Then, I tried Curys the Great mod campaign and played as Persia. I had one war each turn. At some point I had to defeat more than 10 nations.Most of them were vassals of the Seleucid Empire and was hitting me at the same time! I had at least 4 towns besieged by numerous, strong armies. When I looked at the map, the whole surrounded area was red(hostile and at war with me). I decided to recruit mercenaries, for instant army and attack their cities. As a result I had minus economy, plus their garissons were really tough. Maybe it sounds challenging for someone but for me it was just break of my balls. So, after a few tries with different factions I uninstalled. Maybe I am a noob, I don't know, but for sure it wasn't fun.
I'm really enjoying the return of Rome 2 content! Keep up the good work guys!
Same! Everyone is complaining about that theyre just trying to get more money. Idk tbh lol, I play Rome II everyday so I dont mind getting new factions :D
I hope more DLC's will follow! :)
I really love all the new content,nice work!
I know is just a hollow hope,but would be awesome if Attila get's new content too.
Attila team is too busy making Throne of Britannia
No way, Attila was a massive flop and a terrible game with a tiny playerbase, why on earth would they make more content for that game
True that Rome 2 is doing better, but the people behind the Ancient Empires mod and Medieval 1212 mod haven’t released a campaign yet, when they Attila will get pretty bust pretty quick...probably, I can say, obviously, but I’m just guessing that these mods will, to a massive degree, reinvigorate the game and the community, plus Attila “feels” like a m older Total War game, it’s still a lot like Rome but has stuff from the older better games like Shogun 2.
Thrones of Britannia is basically a standalone expansion for Attila. Same codebase, very very similar gameplay.
Atilla was the only total war game i couldn't get into, not sure if that's because of the game play itself or because none of the factions interest me to play.
Should have guessed they would mention 90% dlc factions
of course is a lure to buy dlc lol
Two of them are free. So that's 60% paid DLC factions.
Also dlc factions are more likely to be minor factions which would make sense for them to struggle more.
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Jay M clearly I was making a statement 90% being used as it is seen as the majority. As there was 60% dlc factions. But I'm not gonna be nice to a company that pumps out bad dlc. Instead of actually using a faction and fleshing out their roster.
Marcomanni and Massagetae were hard, but Odrysian Kingdom is way beyond that.
Those 3 are my favourite campaigns, two other really hard factions are epirus and colchis
Damn odrysians... I start that campaign like more than 10 times before to get anything right... Oh!! In very hard not legendary, i'll get a heart attack if i do that!!!
I really ask myself why so many people say that. I even won with them on DEI on legendary. I think it's just some random events some times.
Massalia is pretty hard on higher difficulties as well. Its hard to expand with four angry Gaulish tribes invading you every four turns.
Massagetae is my favorite faction : it's easy to expand in south and east ; despite your poor economy, you can build a great army of mounted archers (the basic unit, low cost) ; For sieges, just wait and defeat all armies who try breakthrough. In fact its so funny to play !
Carthage are actually still super easy, what about getae and ardieiei? They have bad units, no economy and are surrounded by op factions and you have Balkan culture who everyone hates
I won with ardiei and that campaign really enjoied me. But I lost a campaign with Colchide in few turns, playing as well in legendary difficulty
Ardiei have op ships, use the navy they can train really good fleet within first couple of turns and can stomp the coasts
On what difficulty? I only play on legendary
Yes but ships can only get you so far, maybe a fifth of the towns in the game are ports, what happens when an army marches on your towns and all you have to defend with is bad units
Fitzgerald how is this racist?
I've played over 2000 hours on Rome 2. I bought this game twice, it's my favorite. Winning with mounted units on legendary was very hard. The one that jumps out to me as a beast to win was Carthage on legendary. I had to get used to not leaning on one type of unit for the win. Playing this game for years I must say the updates and expansion packs added were outstanding, the entire game is more than just a game and more like a destination, a way for me to command an entire nation. Making just one mistake on Carthage legendary would cost me the game, I can't tell you how many times I had to start over. Rome and nations in Spain would double team me, WOW.
agree 100%
Epirus... ?
Jean-François Bélanger
Epirus is actually easy. All you have to do is spam pikes to outnumber spartan pikes and to deal with their elite units. Atheens are easy to deal with since they will lose every engagement vs your pikes. Even on legendary this campaign is easy because you can just max out your taxes and have 30 units defend your settlement and have no public order problems whatsoever. Plus they have elephants which are worth like 10 units or more.
*if used correctly (so elephants aren t THAT good for a newbie)
that is actualy a mistake with Epirus. if you turtle at start you are stuck. You have to siege athens on turn 2
honestly most factions you have to go on the offensive from turn 1 since everyone doesn't have a full stack yet
I win battles with epirus with just elephant
I'd still love a Alexander the Great dlc...
Make a 5 hardest start of all TW games please.
Otomo is not hard at all XD
Roman Phenes Objective opinion.
In Attila Western Rome is much, MUCH harder than Eastern Rome IMO. WRE definitely belongs in any top 3 of hardest TW starts of all time.
Otomo is not that hard lmao, probably the easiest
chosokabe was easy to manage
Good thing these challenging campaigns are not in the base game, good going I love seeing all these interesting factions locked out of the base game
Playing as Massaesyli right now, finding it quite fun, However that tradition bug is making it quite annoying.
I agree with a lot of those including the Barcids. Colchis and especially Aridaei are honourable mentions. Seleucids were for a time as well before updates.
Carthage is NOT hard at all. It's just that most people don't know how to play it. You gotta abandon your Spanish holdings and focus on consolidating power in Africa. Betray Libya and take all their settlements. This allows you full control of Carthago, which is among the best provinces in game (others being Britannia and Aegyptus). Afterwards, take all the African tribes and you're pretty much set for world domination. You'll probably lose all your non-African settlements, but that's ok, they are worthless early game anyways. If Rome or Syracuse declares war on you, then get half a stack of ballista ships (with a few fodder ships). With that navy, you can destroy any transport fleet they send at you.
I like your style
raider968 I did the exact opposite, lol, I gave up Africa (At the last moment) and took all of spain ^^
I took spain and left my friends to take Africa from Egypt, my only enemy there.
No.
Except for marcomanni.
The biggest challenge : Ardiaie - Colchis.
It took me a solid 4 months of constantly restarting, to finally win with the marcomanni on legendary
Why is everyone saying epirus? They are literally one of the easiest, you have the best pikes in the game, best wardogs, some of the best cav, elephants as mercs anywhere on the map, the richest and easiest to keep happy towns in the game, you start with wine and horse breeders, your only rivals are athens and sparta and they are worse in every way compared to epirus it’s possible to take them both out on legendary by turn 7
it's possible, yes, but hard
lol no its not at all, just try getae or odryisians, they are a different league of hard
Tbh I agree. Epirus is easy (IMO). Not so much for inexperienced players.
Epirus is definitely tricky, but doable, for the average player. I found it was a tense but fun challenge on hard to overcome the other Greeks before Rome could finish off Carthage and attack me.
Also, Epirus is one of the easiest starts? I disagree. There are plenty of easier starts in Rome 2 than Epirus. (Though, granted, I can't speak for Very Hard or Legendary campaigns.)
Teach me master, at what point are wardogs useful? I only used them as a cheap alternative to to light cav to chase enemies down.
So you ever play as Tylis ? This is superhard start. Tougher then any fraction you have in your top 5. You are in begining at war with Macedon, superior enemy in every way. Noone likes you , and it is a matter of time when Sparta and Athens join to war against you. In their fotsteps come usualy Royal Scytians and Bitinians. Thouse fracction whould snowboling you to submition in no time.
I agree with you on the marcomanni, i am an experienced player and ive tried the marcomanni they are literally so hard in the beginning youre surrounded by rome and other strong factions
Man, I would love more of these!
Its nice youre still making videos about this game and on top of that about ingame bugs and inbalance. But how about doing something about it?
Adding Rome: Total War (2004) feature will be wonderful to watch especially the tips and tricks +cheats and hacks.
The hardest is starting this game; I still feel the burn of disappointment from release
it had the worse release i've ever seen game have. It was INFESTED with bugs and plagued by problems.
It was an unoptimazed bugfest, and it was promised to be a lot of thing, wich the game clearly did not deliver. The diplomacy, the AI, the battles, the balance.. Everything was quite bad tbh. Just watch Angry Joe's review on it. You gonna get it why it was such a let down. Luckily they patched it quite quicly, but on relase and after 1 or 2 month it was just a disgrace really.
If you are still pissed about the release that happened 5 years ago Now then I suggest you grow up
It's time to grow up indeed. This game is one of the best ever created. Stop complaining for everything and try to focus on the good parts
Frostdoom people still over exaggerate because drama queens ...
Odrysian is one of my favorites to play as, yes slow start and not an ideal roster, and the Greeks are going to give you trouble. But once you get rolling its a fun ride.
Ardiaei on Legendary was one hell of a campaign to play!
Remnants of Angmar is tough my dude
The hardest Total War campaign has got to be the Western Roman Empire in Rome Total War: Barbarian Invasion (I would say WRE in Attila at launch was close but nowadays it's a lot easier and the older TW games were definitely harder if you had a poor economy/low public order).
Epirus (Greeks and Romans hate you and have you sandwiched), Selucia (all your satraps hate you) and Carthage (EVERYONE hates you and you are spread out over Africa and Spain) have to be up there, and I always found the Nomad tribes hard due to their lack of siege-worthy infantry.
I played the Seleucids and Iceni on Rome 2, but they dont come close to being Brettonia on WH 2 Mortal empires.
The ardieiei are possibly the hardest campaign in the game. Weak economy, one of the weakest cavalries in the game, they get decent spears very late and their melee infantry are also terrible. Although they are considered more of a "naval" faction, their fleet is also terrible. Never seen a faction in more need of some help, its not very hard just to give them a little boost in unit variety.
The odrysians are not really very hard, they have very good melee infantry, and played smartly, you can take down the rest of the thracian factions in a heartbeat and then you can contest the macedonians and the greeks, but once you take down macedonia, you should have the economy and manpower to stomp the greeks.
C´mon guys, carthage is very easy, for some reason they are even harder to play in the hannibal campaign.
I agree that massagetae and marcomanni are very hard. but not impossible.
Just getting in to this Total War game universe. I have to say its a bit of struggle for me. Still great fun! And none is more fun than Rome 2. Looking forward to future expansions, dlc and stuff for this titel.
Once you get into the Massagetae they are actually a lot of fun, currently conquering the rest of Gaul with them
really no colchis? i always find it impossible to conquer my neighbours fast enough before they all gang up on me
Massalia , Syracuse, Lusitania and Pathia are a bit tricky early. Colchis , Epirus and Ardiaei are really hard because you have alot of diplomatic issues.
I would love to play however every time I try to launch it in Steam the Launcher doesn’t come up, and gives the error “Failed to initialize Steam! Are you running Steam?” It’s been like this for months and suggestions I’ve tried haven’t worked. Super frustrating that I upgraded my rig to handle this game but can’t even get into the game to begin with.
I’ve had the hardest time with Parthia honestly
Ardiei-the most difficult faction in the game
What about Epirus? Survivable on legendary, but comparatively it isn’t easy without cheesing or getting lucky with agents!
Ardiaei: no progression
Bad cav
Bad skirmishers
All the difficulty with the Barcides goes when you open the diplomacy screen.
Epirus gets a largly harder start and have no diplomatic possibility.
Listening to player feedback and giving us walled minor cities!
This has to be the most difficulty thing!!!!!
Make the top 5 vídeo easier to start
Vitor Galinari Romans would be one of them. The Romans can spawn countless armies in a few turns. Sometimes it's OP but, very fun when your facing them as Carthage or a Greek State.
Top 3 easiest for me would be Rome, Sparta, Macedon.
Þórarinn Snorrason sparta? A small city with all greeks hating you
Sparta has great fighters in the game, better and harder hoplites and pikes than other factions. Also not everyone hates you at the start coz you are under Macedon and Athens doesn't hate you at the start. Just build either 4 pikes or 4 hoplites turn 1 then go straight for Larissa turn 2 and then just build up what ever you deem necessary to finish off Epirus and just go on from there, either take on Rome coz they declare war turn 2 or 3 or just build 2 stacks and blitz Athens and Macedon. Once Athens and Macedon are out, everyone will start to love you again, provided you don't declare any wars other than on those 3 factions at the start. Good luck.
5. Bactria (probably a bit strange that i have put this in, but with no over faction you can get such a big empire in a short amount of time/the satrapys are very easy for good money/Parthians are the only good encounter, but you can defeat them quite fast if you want)
4. Arverni (You can do whatever you want - the other gallic tribes arent nearly as strong as you/good units over time)
3. Seleucids (just concentrate about economy and forget expansion first, then youll be dominating the east/at the late game definetly the strongest unit roster overall)
2. Rome (incredible performance at the start and its very easy to get money and army fast/overall very good balanced units over the time)
1. Egypt (does have best province with extra food and stuff at the start -> can get money faster than anyone else/very good units in every game period/seleucid ai is too stupid to attack ferquently and effective)
1) Cumans in late era Stainless Steel mod
i agree most of this, also the capadocian campaing would be in my top 10 hardest starts, not easy to expand at the begining
Britannia in TW Rome 1 was pretty hard. With weak units and no bowmen you have a tough time. I got them expanded until I ran into Rome and then the weaknesses became apparent.
Michael Weston iceni is pretty easy at rome 2
Can confirm, Odrysian Kingdom is the only Campagin Start I've ever failed. And I failed it several times. (It was before the first major update, like late 2013 though, might be worth giving it a second go now)
Odrysian has access to some of the best tier-1 sword units, Thracian Warriors. They CHEW through Hoplites like crazy, even with low armour and melee defense they do insane damage to the low-damage Hoplites. Archers/Peltasts make mincemeat out of Pikes, so Macedon and the Greek factions should pose little difficulty.
Challenge accepted. (Massaesyli)
I already won this, they are the hardest desert faction but they don’t compare to the hardness of some factions, the start is actually super easy Carthage and nova carthagos towns are just left undefended, the main challenge is taking Spain and France because your inf just can’t stand up to them
Was your playthrough on Legendary?
Yes i only play legendary
Oh and because you are at war with Carthage Rome and Syracuse love you and want to be military allies from the start of the game
I spot with my little eyes a CA employee!
Can you rework some of the older faction unit rosters please? You guys did a very good job with the desert kingdoms and their unit variety is awesome. If some of the older factions had that, it would feel extremely nice and not like your playing to same faction over and over again.
Bro stop asking for unit variety, already the game is incredibly ahistorical with female generals, overpowered "black" factions, female units and barbarians having siege weapons.
In addition to these, I've had a hard time at harder difficulties with Colchis and Saba. Though I've always hated the Odrysian Kingdom more than anything
Who's reading the comment section after seeing Legend of total war's video. Keep killing and swearing legend. You're awesome.
As someone who has completed nearly every campaign on legendary, odrysians are the hardest by far, marcomanni aren’t that hard because Octavian Just leaves his towns undefended and it’s easy to take them, you can then work up to a level 4 hall of champions and churn out units with almost 100 attack on recruitment
The one thing I hated about Rome II is that Rome was not a late-game superpower.
If I'm not playing as Rome but as someone else they never seem to leave Italy. Carthage always get killed within the first 40 turns as well.
Vault Boy the AI usually get killed very early, at least i think, have you recently played? I started a campaign as Pontus, and Rome conquered all Italy, Carthage, and now are invading France.
War Never Changes!
I haven’t played recently, but I’ll try to play as soon as I can. I just hated making a faction a superpower and not having Rome challenge me.
I think it's a shame that unlike Rome 1, in Rome 2, Rome is just a single faction. I miss the Julii, Brutii and Scipii split from Rome 1, and the goal of taking down the S.C.P.R and seizing Rome itself.
After the update, my game always blinks while I’m playing. Does anyone else get this?
If Carthage is so difficult then why is it hard for the Masaesyli to deal with them?
It's specifically for player I think, AI gets all sorts of cheats in this game, I remembered killing one full stack and next turn they spawn in another 2 of them lol, if it is controlled by player you certainly cannot do that
I consider Sparta to be the hardest because you start out in a tiny corner in Hellas with very little income and locked in by powerful neighbors such as Athens, Epirus and Knossus (and Macedon looming nearby). The good thing is that Athens is your defensive ally and will remain so as long as you don't declare war on them. But since Athens holds the capital city of your region this means you can't trade with any other faction so long as they control Athenai. This and the fact that you don't start off with much revenue means you will be severely short on cash and will thus have limited recruitment options. And that's not good when you consider how strong Epirus is on hard and the fact that your other neighbor Knossus (who live on the nearby island in your region) will most likely declare war on you within a few turns into the game and start sending wave after wave of hoplite militias at you. Plus even if you decide to take Athens out to expand your region, get more income and start trading, assuming you don't take too many losses taking Athenai (its not easy taking a walled capital early in the game without siege engines and the Athenians will likely have an army garrisoned there) you just end up making a powerful enemy out of Macedon who are Athen's overlords.
Did you not read my comment. If you attack Athens early in the game Macedon who they are client states of will attack you as they most likely will do. Which means besides already having power enemies like Epirus (and possibly Knossus preying on you) there is suddenly another bid kid on the block wanting to knock you down. Plus even if you take their city, there's no guarantee you will wipe Athens out in one go which means they could still have one large army and navy out there with now homeless and wanting payback. And yeah I'm aware Sparta has some of the strongest infantry in the game and that's a good thing when you are fighting on the defensive. But unfortunately they don't come cheap so you can't exactly recruit a lot of them early on to go out conquering while also having to defend your region from powerful neighbors.
barbiquearea just do it at the expense of your income until you win the war, its not that big a deal to do in debt on tw games
You should do these top10’s with your other games
I just took my marcomanni army I built the first few turns and fled to britain asfast as possible to conquer it, and came back with a vengeance later on.
Cool vid I hope you add the Slavic in Rome 2. With 4 new regions of the map where the nomadic factions are. But for the hardest is Parthia.
Fall of the Samurai Legendary Republic Campaigns
Hardest of all time?? Aizu - Legendary- Republic - Traditionalist (Tech Level 1 Only)
I won that on very hard recently
Massagetae:
Cavalry faction, struggles in siege battles, very weak economy, and powerful neighbors...
*Sounds* *like* *Bretonnia!*
rome 2 and attila crashes for 2 weeks now...whats going on? any idea to fix this? never had this problem again
morfeas2009 change the version via steam
Would love to see the same vid for Total War: Warhammer 1/2
Skarsnik probably wins hardest start in both games.
I would say Belegar
Belegar gets spooky ghosts and is closer to 8 peaks.
Skarsnik. He starts surrounded by :
- The Empire
- Wood Elves
- Clan Angrund
and his capitol has no wall.
Plus his base units are freakin' bad.
I decided to play Massilia for my first shot at legendary. That did not go well. On the other hand, Macedon on legendary was quite easy, while at the same time I was playing the Getae on very hard and lost the first try a hundred turns in. Thus I am led to believe that Massilia and particularly the Getae are among the most difficult.
Where's the Viking trailer for Thrones of Britannia?
Personaly i would add epirus campaing somewhere in that list since if you dont rush athens and sparta you are gonna be in trouble
Late game marcomanni are amazing with the appropriate buffs
I now know what Mos Eisley is named after
I could I never manage to last more than just a few turns as Tylis.
What was in the new update/ free content? Haven't played with it yet as i needed to clear up space on my laptop to get the update
Saminator buy new ssd...
.... Well, time to task Legendoftotalwar the task of completing the Marcomanni campaign on legendary...
Are the achievement bugs fixed at least before all that precious new content was released? (wasn't supposed to rhyme)
May I doubt that?
yes apart from the empire divided one
Now I really wanna go back and play Marcomanni on very hard.
Agree completely with #1. Tried it 3 times when I first got the game and lost all 3
This week there will be video information about "Total War Saga: Thrones of Britannia"?
Epirus used to have a rough start. Don't know if that still stands.
I want to play Rome 2 again but the problem is that the AI was really dumb when i played it the last time, i played Attila and the AI is a bit better but i didn't like the Time in history of that world, so i wonder, did they update the AI to become more challenging or not?
You call that "hard"? Play the Etruscans with the "Divide et Impera" Mod. THATS HARD! ^^ And yeah, in Vanilla they are not the easiest Faction too ^^
Btw: i wanna see the Etrsucans as official playable Faction. I would even pay for them XD
But i wanna see them in a high Quality DLC only.
That means: special Culture (italic), new Buildings (especially religious Buildings), more Units (roman-hellenic hybrid) and a own Soundset (atm they are talking like romans on the battlefield and use the barabrian soundset at Diplomacy, thats strange)
Yeah, unfortunaly :/
But who knows, Hope dies at last ^^
Hey, I just remembered that comment and your answer. And, what can I say: It happens! : D
The patches sadly made my launcher for total war rome 2 stop working im sad
Could you please add Cheruscii in Grand Campaign?
I got a faction unlocked mod for grand campaign and started as suebi first. Macromanni declared war on me and I thought I was in huge trouble. I guess I'm not but I am against boii.
For me is Carthage because it's the faction I played after I finished my Roman Campaign
Lol, Massagetae are my favorite faction to play as.
Can total war rome 2 be installed on Windows 10 and what i could do if it can not?? Im trying a few weeks on Windows 10 and it won't work...
Marija Mandic if you install it via steam it plays super good
I find the Suebi rather tough. Everybody hates me when im them. Everybody around me all seem to be able to produce better troops, being mostly celts.
wow epic video!
what is the name of the song at the start?
Well... with masaesyli I was luck, I took phanzania in turn 4 and made a federation with Gaetuli after that, then I conquer Cyrene and made an agreement with the Nasamones of military acccess, then they declare war to libue, then all the carthage civs fall one by one XD