Great review, thanks Wayne. If equated to animals, this would be a racing giraffe, so not surprised that it doesn't impress. I built a 7" cruiser based on the Eachine Tyro 129 workings and an IFlight 7" frame and it is brilliant and gets amazingly long flight times. Bigger just doesn't make much sense to me and look dangerous. Your review here agreed with my suspicions and I could not imagine flying that thing anywhere other than in huge wide open fields like you have access to there. Cheers.
My ten inch runs so efficient you can easily get away with xt6... the amps are low believe it or not because the props don't spin as much as like a five inch does. I absolutely love the way a big quad flies!!
Thank you for the review. I would like to see a video on how to tune a 10-inch quad. I've just built a 10-inch quad but it flies so horrible. I tested it with stock tuning to see how it flies initially but it needs a lot of work to get it to fly smoothly if it ever did.
Frame resonance ! this big motors are shaking like crazy, no surprise dough, they are building those by military specification for the Ukrainian front line as a kamikaze quad
Try with a really big battery, maybe even go 8S, i think it is capable for that And load it up with 2kg to 3kg of cargo to really find out how it flies normally. I would really like to know how These large cargo drones handle "everyday usage" under reallife load and power cobditions. Please check all connections carefilly and verify right torque of each screw, especcially for the FC, camera, VTX, motors and frame. Try larger and improved antennas. You probably have to view this quad as a cheap base for a single usecase. It is NOT cheap, as far as i know, so it fails on this point instantly. Can you make it carry real loada and behave normally over some larger distances, thats what is important.
The irony is that for "reasons" the market it suddenly flush with fairly large low KV motors, so will find their way into the hobby no matter what. I figure me dicking around with one is better than in the hands of certain other groups
Balancing 3 blade props is always tricky.....Trust me, they WILL be out of balance....Even then it would need tuning. Arms dont look wide enough to me either...🤔😳😳🇬🇧
Such a shame it flew like crap. I would love to see a follow up on this. Maybe a comparison between this and a 7inch with the same li-ion to see which flys longer/better/most effiecient. Great content as always. Take care
I think you're under weight. I got one of these different brand, had problems at first too, then I made a 6s4p using the p45b cells and everything smoothed out. 18,000 mah, it flies for so long I don't even know how long because I got tired of flying at 3.85v. But the vtx issues are another story, I just put in an Avatar from the start.
The bobbles are definitely a tune issue... Needs to turn D-MIN off if it's on and put some large caps on it wouldn't hurt. Large props and bobbles are always an issue that's fun to sort out
To me, It certainly looked like a slug from the video. But the picture captured on your ground based video when it flew by gave me the impression that it was moving right along. Question: can that unit take 8s or 12s Power? I Was wondering though if the props or a prop is out of balance or a blade is not tracking in line with the other blades?? If you have the inclination to put a GPS module and use your walksnail VTX running a Rush Cherry may make things better for your flying. Not sure what to do with the elrs. On that size wondering if ol Crossfire would be the receiver to use on this big frame??
I think it cruises at a reasonable speed - though hard to tell without a GPS unit telling me for sure. I haven't opened up the frame to check the FC/ESC board, but basing on what Sequre sell, I think it will support 4-8S. But that's not to say the motors will (not on that size prop at least) The Crossfire antenna would be the same as the ELRS one, so I think it's more a matter of orientation to help in not blocking the signal. I might circle around to this again and see if it's a case of pid and filter tune.
Drainman reviewed the same e quad and his had worse problems than yours. One of his motors almost fell off so I would at least go over the whole quad and check every bolt on it. The tune sounds absolutely horrible. That's why it's only a little over $200.00 I guess. Don't let this discourage you from a ten inch though. I built my 10 and I love it... my ten is a freaking monster!!! In a good way...
@@CurryKitten actually i do wonder seriously if the tune for this drone was done with it slugging a "payload" since its clearly optimised for .. other things but that does not explain the awful radio range , perhaps they reserve the nice recievers for drones going to specific places and the drones they know are going for actual hobby flying get the worse elsrs recievers idk
Great review of a disappointing build. Expected more from Sequre. Perhaps the props need balancing.? And a diversity receiver with antennas 90° to each other may help signal. 🤔 Happy flying everyone. 😎
I'd like to see if this can be made to fly smoother. I hear people are involved in making it better, but there is quite possibly a resonance on the arms that may not be fixable. We'll see what comes up
?? This video is just wrong and needs to be re-done. There are two HUGE problems here. 1) You CAN NOT fly this drone with a "Single P" 4,000mAh L-Ion battery pack. The best high discharge rate L-Ions discharge at 10C, which, assuming you are using the best, means this pack of yours is only good for 40Amps MAX. These motors here can draw as much as 68A from the batteries- EACH. For a total of 272 Amps. Your battery pack is off by a factor of approx. 7, which is enormous. Even if you ASSUME you never go higher than 60% throttle, if you look it up, you will see that you are STILL off by a factor of 3 or more. I don't even want to venture a guess as to how many problems this could cause in your drone. When L-Ions packs are used successfully in drones, it is usually with 4-6P packs driving either just one motor in an airplane situation, or multi-rotors with carefully selected motor/prop combo's that don't draw too much current. 2) It does not look like you balanced your props which is mandatory for props of this size. Not only do you need to balance them, but you need to run each motor/prop combo independently and make sure EACH PAIR does not vibrate at all across the full throttle range, and you need to do that before you go flying. Something tells me that was not done. If you resolve both of these issues, I am sure you will think very differently about this drone. In practice, the larger a drone is, the LESS "jello" appears in videos. This is really simple physics. If you are flying a big drone and you see any jello at all, you know immediately that you have a serious problem on your hands.
This drone claimed to be able to fly for 45 minutes on a 10000mAh 6S Lipo. Given that flight time, I think it's reasonable to think the quad should have been very efficient. Obviously i wasn't expecting that much flight time from my 4000mAh li-Iona, but they are rated for a continuous discharge of 35A - and based on the claim, I thought that was achievable on low throttle. Don't forget I was flying with 2 in series... for a while at least until it decided to drop one of them. The main reason not to use Lipos is that I simply don't have 6S's of that size. Yes, I'd accept that some of that jello could be down to a lack of balance in the props, but one thing I think you are missing is problem with this frame itself. Most quads of this size don't simply have a X shaped frame, they have secondary struts to reinforce the frame - as without that you have a certain amount of resonance in the frame which I think contributed a lot to the shakiness. When someone does send me an RTF quad, I take it that it is "ready to fly" so I present the quad as it comes "out of the box" I may well come back to it and attempt to make it better - but that would be for another video.
Freakin payload 10 inch marketing. You should know what this is intended for. A shame for our hobby. If it were a deadcat, then we could talk about long range intentions for filming
Promote this? What on Earth are you talking about? Did you see the video? He literally cut it to ribbons in the dugout until it was up to its knees in mud, for Christ's sake. If you don't believe me, ask his battery.
Am I part of the problem? I like to think not. It's hard for me to believe that there's a bunch of people waiting on RUclips reviews to decide which quad they want to strap a payload to. I tend to think that if I've got one, then there's one less carry payload elsewhere in the world
@@CurryKitten no curry you dont understand these guys are totally browsing on the internet for tech reviews before they order stuff from aliexpress same day shipping straight to the front lines /s
So I use mine for emergency rescue. Delivery of water, medical kits, food, phones, to people trapped in remote areas, on roof tops, etc., after this last hurricane, so just because some people use these for war doesn't mean you can only use it for that. I appreciate the reviews as I'm looking to expand the rescue team after this last week.
@@notsogood4321 No, they don't, Mr Bond. They don't have to, and for the record I can tell you that most of them don't speak English. Have a proper martini, relax and enjoy life instead of trying to be someone behind the keyboard who thinks he knows something about this war. When it comes to payload quads, they have far more experience and knowledge than the rest of us.
Wow - so many comments. You seem upset about it all. There's nothing illegal about this quad, it can be flown within the the limits of the ofcom rules. The question of whether I'm infecting the air with rampant 868Mhz and 5.8Ghz traffic is a bit of a moot point though. I fly these things out in the middle of fields and I'm putting out a hell of a lot less noise that most peoples wifi routers
Not being funny but what you're doing is completely illegal and you're transmitting well over the legal limit and causing massive amounts of RF interference wake up lol you might want to delete this video as it's completely illegal
Are you like Greta? Swedish? ’Cause when you mention it, it is so obvious. He really is standing in the middle of a city next to a 3G-mast. How could I have missed it?
So think about what you're doing you're running massive amounts of power at the meshtastic frequency which we use to communicate with because you want to make a RUclips video which is completely illegal what's your problem
Oi oi oi you got a loicence to say dispataging comments on the internet like that i have half the mind to report you to the non crime blacklist . Also 1W of vtx power will quite literally do nothing until its perhaps 100m from a source and last time i checked there wont be that many sources in literal countryside farmland , quit seething online and touch grass
The radio rules are very strict and have never gone away we have been on the internet for 20 years what you're doing is so illegal plus it affects our meshtastic network
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10 inch is pretty popular in Ukraine now as it not only moving fast but also take with it 3-4.5kg useful weight
Great video. Ironic with the payload marketing that yours ended up delivering a payload.. which it most definitely isn't designed for lol.
I never thought of it that way - it just needs to drop something... it's in it's DNA :D
@@CurryKitten😅😅👏
Great review, thanks Wayne. If equated to animals, this would be a racing giraffe, so not surprised that it doesn't impress. I built a 7" cruiser based on the Eachine Tyro 129 workings and an IFlight 7" frame and it is brilliant and gets amazingly long flight times. Bigger just doesn't make much sense to me and look dangerous. Your review here agreed with my suspicions and I could not imagine flying that thing anywhere other than in huge wide open fields like you have access to there. Cheers.
My ten inch runs so efficient you can easily get away with xt6... the amps are low believe it or not because the props don't spin as much as like a five inch does. I absolutely love the way a big quad flies!!
Thank you for the review. I would like to see a video on how to tune a 10-inch quad. I've just built a 10-inch quad but it flies so horrible. I tested it with stock tuning to see how it flies initially but it needs a lot of work to get it to fly smoothly if it ever did.
Frame resonance ! this big motors are shaking like crazy, no surprise dough, they are building those by military specification for the Ukrainian front line as a kamikaze quad
Try with a really big battery, maybe even go 8S, i think it is capable for that And load it up with 2kg to 3kg of cargo to really find out how it flies normally. I would really like to know how These large cargo drones handle "everyday usage" under reallife load and power cobditions. Please check all connections carefilly and verify right torque of each screw, especcially for the FC, camera, VTX, motors and frame. Try larger and improved antennas.
You probably have to view this quad as a cheap base for a single usecase. It is NOT cheap, as far as i know, so it fails on this point instantly. Can you make it carry real loada and behave normally over some larger distances, thats what is important.
I mean its quite obvious that this drone is not really meant for the hobby community but a nice review non the less
The irony is that for "reasons" the market it suddenly flush with fairly large low KV motors, so will find their way into the hobby no matter what. I figure me dicking around with one is better than in the hands of certain other groups
Balancing 3 blade props is always tricky.....Trust me, they WILL be out of balance....Even then it would need tuning. Arms dont look wide enough to me either...🤔😳😳🇬🇧
Balancing a 2 blades prop makes sense to me... I'm not sureI can do a 3 bladed prop
when first I saw Sequre make "big" drones.. I instantly know that their market are not for "reguler" FPV flyers... 16:32
Did you balance the props? When they get that big, that should not be ignored, think I read somone mentioning that it should be done from 7'' and up.
Such a shame it flew like crap. I would love to see a follow up on this. Maybe a comparison between this and a 7inch with the same li-ion to see which flys longer/better/most effiecient. Great content as always. Take care
I think you're under weight. I got one of these different brand, had problems at first too, then I made a 6s4p using the p45b cells and everything smoothed out. 18,000 mah, it flies for so long I don't even know how long because I got tired of flying at 3.85v. But the vtx issues are another story, I just put in an Avatar from the start.
I've watched 4 different reviews of this drone and it's a POS. Yours may be different, but this thing is just not good
@thegooniverse495 yea i went with the iFlight CX10, so there's a significant difference there for sure.
How long does it fly?
Fantastic flying and review, Wayne! 😃
But yeah, I don't think it was made for fun flying exactly...
Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Imagine flying that for 45 mins. you would be sick and ready to give up the hobby
5 mins of no fun at all was enough for me
ill tune that rig for u if i can fly it. love your vids.
The bobbles are definitely a tune issue... Needs to turn D-MIN off if it's on and put some large caps on it wouldn't hurt. Large props and bobbles are always an issue that's fun to sort out
Wayne, you missed the memo; "Please fully tune and BF setup, we only know how to make soldering irons."
To me, It certainly looked like a slug from the video. But the picture captured on your ground based video when it flew by gave me the impression that it was moving right along. Question: can that unit take 8s or 12s Power? I Was wondering though if the props or a prop is out of balance or a blade is not tracking in line with the other blades?? If you have the inclination to put a GPS module and use your walksnail VTX running a Rush Cherry may make things better for your flying. Not sure what to do with the elrs. On that size wondering if ol Crossfire would be the receiver to use on this big frame??
I think it cruises at a reasonable speed - though hard to tell without a GPS unit telling me for sure. I haven't opened up the frame to check the FC/ESC board, but basing on what Sequre sell, I think it will support 4-8S. But that's not to say the motors will (not on that size prop at least) The Crossfire antenna would be the same as the ELRS one, so I think it's more a matter of orientation to help in not blocking the signal. I might circle around to this again and see if it's a case of pid and filter tune.
@@CurryKitten I hope you do find a way to revisit this donkey, if not just for the challenge.
Drainman reviewed the same e quad and his had worse problems than yours. One of his motors almost fell off so I would at least go over the whole quad and check every bolt on it. The tune sounds absolutely horrible. That's why it's only a little over $200.00 I guess. Don't let this discourage you from a ten inch though. I built my 10 and I love it... my ten is a freaking monster!!! In a good way...
What sort of flight time do you get from it?
Did it not come with a tune? Maybe it does and would probably fly better with its load!!
Can I borrow Coco for a bit, she weighs about 4kg? ;-)
@@CurryKitten actually i do wonder seriously if the tune for this drone was done with it slugging a "payload" since its clearly optimised for .. other things but that does not explain the awful radio range , perhaps they reserve the nice recievers for drones going to specific places and the drones they know are going for actual hobby flying get the worse elsrs recievers idk
@@CurryKitten she does but definitely not
Sweet! I'm building a 10" on 3115 900 kv motors. Can you share your pid\filter config?
Really... I mean you see how this flies don't you?
@CurryKitten my ADHD is hella bad sometimes, sorry mate. And thanks!
No worries :) If I do get a tune for it that works, I'll be more than happy to share
Great review of a disappointing build. Expected more from Sequre. Perhaps the props need balancing.?
And a diversity receiver with antennas 90° to each other may help signal. 🤔
Happy flying everyone. 😎
It looks like it's about 8 years old tech performance wise! It's surprising that even the elrs performance was so poor.
Surprisingly up to date FC with the H7. Just doesn't seem setup at all for flying this quad
Maybe tune it and see how it feels
I'd like to see if this can be made to fly smoother. I hear people are involved in making it better, but there is quite possibly a resonance on the arms that may not be fixable. We'll see what comes up
flimsy arms?
there's only 2 things wrong with this quad...your hands! JK apparently everyone thinks thisv BNF sucks!
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And so are you.
?? This video is just wrong and needs to be re-done. There are two HUGE problems here. 1) You CAN NOT fly this drone with a "Single P" 4,000mAh L-Ion battery pack. The best high discharge rate L-Ions discharge at 10C, which, assuming you are using the best, means this pack of yours is only good for 40Amps MAX. These motors here can draw as much as 68A from the batteries- EACH. For a total of 272 Amps. Your battery pack is off by a factor of approx. 7, which is enormous. Even if you ASSUME you never go higher than 60% throttle, if you look it up, you will see that you are STILL off by a factor of 3 or more. I don't even want to venture a guess as to how many problems this could cause in your drone. When L-Ions packs are used successfully in drones, it is usually with 4-6P packs driving either just one motor in an airplane situation, or multi-rotors with carefully selected motor/prop combo's that don't draw too much current. 2) It does not look like you balanced your props which is mandatory for props of this size. Not only do you need to balance them, but you need to run each motor/prop combo independently and make sure EACH PAIR does not vibrate at all across the full throttle range, and you need to do that before you go flying. Something tells me that was not done. If you resolve both of these issues, I am sure you will think very differently about this drone. In practice, the larger a drone is, the LESS "jello" appears in videos. This is really simple physics. If you are flying a big drone and you see any jello at all, you know immediately that you have a serious problem on your hands.
This drone claimed to be able to fly for 45 minutes on a 10000mAh 6S Lipo. Given that flight time, I think it's reasonable to think the quad should have been very efficient. Obviously i wasn't expecting that much flight time from my 4000mAh li-Iona, but they are rated for a continuous discharge of 35A - and based on the claim, I thought that was achievable on low throttle. Don't forget I was flying with 2 in series... for a while at least until it decided to drop one of them. The main reason not to use Lipos is that I simply don't have 6S's of that size.
Yes, I'd accept that some of that jello could be down to a lack of balance in the props, but one thing I think you are missing is problem with this frame itself. Most quads of this size don't simply have a X shaped frame, they have secondary struts to reinforce the frame - as without that you have a certain amount of resonance in the frame which I think contributed a lot to the shakiness.
When someone does send me an RTF quad, I take it that it is "ready to fly" so I present the quad as it comes "out of the box" I may well come back to it and attempt to make it better - but that would be for another video.
Freakin payload 10 inch marketing. You should know what this is intended for. A shame for our hobby. If it were a deadcat, then we could talk about long range intentions for filming
What the hell are you talking about?
PLEASE DONT PROMOTE THIS
Please shoosh, people want payload drones for more than carrying munitions.
Promote this? What on Earth are you talking about? Did you see the video? He literally cut it to ribbons in the dugout until it was up to its knees in mud, for Christ's sake. If you don't believe me, ask his battery.
We know where these 'high payload' quads are used for right? Sadly many companies are jumping on that band wagon. So are reviewers it seems...
Am I part of the problem? I like to think not. It's hard for me to believe that there's a bunch of people waiting on RUclips reviews to decide which quad they want to strap a payload to. I tend to think that if I've got one, then there's one less carry payload elsewhere in the world
@@CurryKitten no curry you dont understand these guys are totally browsing on the internet for tech reviews before they order stuff from aliexpress same day shipping straight to the front lines /s
So I use mine for emergency rescue. Delivery of water, medical kits, food, phones, to people trapped in remote areas, on roof tops, etc., after this last hurricane, so just because some people use these for war doesn't mean you can only use it for that. I appreciate the reviews as I'm looking to expand the rescue team after this last week.
You do realise payloads can even be attached to 5" Drones don't you?.🤔
@@notsogood4321 No, they don't, Mr Bond. They don't have to, and for the record I can tell you that most of them don't speak English. Have a proper martini, relax and enjoy life instead of trying to be someone behind the keyboard who thinks he knows something about this war. When it comes to payload quads, they have far more experience and knowledge than the rest of us.
Your transmission on the meshtastic frequency at massive amount of power which is illegal well done
Can't fly it in the UK lol 😂😂
Wow - so many comments. You seem upset about it all. There's nothing illegal about this quad, it can be flown within the the limits of the ofcom rules. The question of whether I'm infecting the air with rampant 868Mhz and 5.8Ghz traffic is a bit of a moot point though. I fly these things out in the middle of fields and I'm putting out a hell of a lot less noise that most peoples wifi routers
You mean you haven't got the balls to fly it in the U.K?..🤔
Why you reviewing a drone which is completely illegal to fly in the UK
Alright Karen, we got the point with your first comment. No need to spam the dudes comments section.
If you think that's illegal you should see what your mum was doing last night.
@@Iain240pmsl...😂
It's also a crime to jump a red light...just saying 🤔
Not being funny but what you're doing is completely illegal and you're transmitting well over the legal limit and causing massive amounts of RF interference wake up lol you might want to delete this video as it's completely illegal
Are you like Greta? Swedish? ’Cause when you mention it, it is so obvious. He really is standing in the middle of a city next to a 3G-mast. How could I have missed it?
So think about what you're doing you're running massive amounts of power at the meshtastic frequency which we use to communicate with because you want to make a RUclips video which is completely illegal what's your problem
Oi oi oi you got a loicence to say dispataging comments on the internet like that i have half the mind to report you to the non crime blacklist . Also 1W of vtx power will quite literally do nothing until its perhaps 100m from a source and last time i checked there wont be that many sources in literal countryside farmland , quit seething online and touch grass
The radio rules are very strict and have never gone away we have been on the internet for 20 years what you're doing is so illegal plus it affects our meshtastic network
Yeah clearly you don't know what you're doing putting your dipole around the wrong way epic wow
Stop transmitting illegally overpower on 868 mHz
You're creating massive amounts of radio frequencies overpower and interfering Meshtastic well done are you a little bit selfish
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